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[QUOTE=Viajero11; 1320810]I probably don't have much to add that hasn't already been discussed, but perhaps this will be helpful to some. I planned a few free days in Rio in early and mid-August in between work obligations. Several previous posts were helpful. Thanks. I enjoy variety in terms of girls and venues and spent most of my time in the Copacabana area. My Portuguese is basic but decent enough to make calls, get information, let the girl know what I'm looking for and expecting, and make a date. As you all know, some language skills can make a BIG difference in terms of the quality of your experience.
I know using the escort sites is a roll of the dice, but I was lucky as the three ladies I picked were the ones from the photos. I enjoy the privacy and lack of interruptions of a private apartment. Again, speaking some Portuguese made a huge difference.
Though it ain't the cheapest, Rio is still one of my favorite places. With some patience, a little Portuguese, and a little luck, the women are some of the best.[/QUOTE]Good report. It covers a segment that sometimes gets overlooked: Websites. You'll need some portuguese skills* (and some luck). But it usually works fine in Rio.
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Email Brazil Specialist
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Very Cheap?
[QUOTE=Gaucho9; 1320967]Doing research for my last report through the local forums (GP Guia, Forum SD, Hot-Forum) and the ISG (thanks to Bubba and the rest of the vets) , I realized how huge and diverse the sex world is in Rio (dozens of termas, hundreds of privés and freelancers, not to even mention the semi pros and the swing houses). Rio has definetely one of the biggest and more intense P4P industries in the world. Luomo? Help? Sorry kids, a drop in the bucket.
To put it bluntly: Saying that Rio's P4P is becoming dead is like saying that the city's food industry is in jeopardy because a couple of restaurants closed down in the neighbourhood. Yep, prices have gone up in the last few years: It's called inflation. But you still get better prices than in London, Madrid, Paris, SF, LA or New York. And much better sex. Ditto: If your favourite shop closed down, just look somewhere else. Sex, like food, it's a daily need in Rio. For tourists and locals alike. They love it, they need it. It won't get away. It will just change locations.[/QUOTE]Man this women what you are paying in Rio 100 Euro (250 Reais) , when they come to Europe (Germany) they work for 20-50 Euros (50-125 Reais). And look at the german standard and look brazilian. Don't be a fool. The most expensive sex you are paying now in Rio. You don't know nothing about prices in Europe. Everything what you are paying over (100-150 Reais) for a longtime is too much!
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[QUOTE=Viajero11; 1320810]I had great results using some of the escort websites and going with girls who had their own place. From cariocasvip I had a great GFE with Leticia who was beautiful, sweet, affectionate, and superb in bed. Had the same with Isa, though she was a little shy with DFK. All natural and very hot in the sack with outstanding oral skills On the way to see Isa I ran into a blonde (usually not my favorite, but it worked well for her) in the hallway and chatted a bit. Jessica was very cute and with a sweet personality and all natural body, so I got her number and we hooked up the next day. Same results in a small but pretty nice apartment. I later saw her on several sites, including cariocasvip. I know it seems hard to believe with photoshop and the like, but she is actually cuter in person than in her photos. Finally I went with Cacau from barrasvip. Com. Br. She was tall and very pretty with long silky black hair and an all natural body. She claimed she was 19, and she was indeed young. If not 19, maybe early 20s. She has that amazing combination of innocence and sexiness that I rarely find. We took our time and had a memorable hour. Excellent oral and fun cuddling and chatting afterwards. All of these sessions were 300 reais, easy to get to in the Copa area, and well worth it. If I'm lucky, some of them will be around next year as I'd repeat with all.
I know using the escort sites is a roll of the dice, but I was lucky as the three ladies I picked were the ones from the photos. I enjoy the privacy and lack of interruptions of a private apartment. Again, speaking some Portuguese made a huge difference.[/QUOTE]Last Sunday I managed to meet Gessica Biel (not sure it is the same Jessica you are talking about). She receive in copacabana, not far from the Balcony Bar. I paid 300 for 1h, however I was not very satisfied. The main problem is that she waited me dressed as a normal girl on Sunday afternoon (no high heels, or sexy lingerie, neither makeup). So indeed she is the girl in the photo, but much much less beautiful. Regarding the service, she tried to make me happy, but was not very good at oral (which is the part I prefer). I know, as you said it is a roll of dice: I personally prefer termas because I am in Rio just few days per year, so I like to go in a place where I can choose a girl that I like. Also the time you spend with her before going in the room is important to understand which is her attitude and if she is going to satisfy you as you wish. With girls on escort site you just get what you get. The photo are just an indication, and most of them are highly photoshoped. Moreover, the face is almost never visible (which is an important part for me).
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[QUOTE=Solohunter;1319773]Another cutey came to chat with me. I bought her a drink and talked a bit. She said the night was really slow. Not many customers. She asked if I wanted to take her out for dinner and dancing and then a night at the hotel. I said sure, as she was a great lady. How much? She said she would check. She left and came back with a figure. 2450 Real. About US$1250. Cheap she said, a discount for me. I smiled and politely declined. I can't imagine many women in the world where I would pay that kind of money. Wow. And it was 9:30 pm with a closing of (I think 2:00 am). She was understanding but disappointed not to leave. A boring night. My guess is she would have made a lot from the fee also. After a few minutes, I gave her a kiss on the cheek and departed.[/QUOTE]Guys, this is just their "stupid gringo" price. Solohunter, obviously you aren't a stupid gringo because you didn't fall for it. Basically, if you want to leave with a girl before her shift is over, they will quote you a price to let you walk out the door with her and cut her working night short. It's really stupid, of course, because no one would pay it. If the girl likes you at all, you can just wait until the end of the night and meet her outside for a small fraction of what the house quoted a few hours earlier.
I truly believe their thinking is, if we get one stupid gringo a month to pay this, we're way ahead of the game. Maybe that's why they had R$600, 000 in the safe a few months ago when they got busted by the local cops? But, I'm sure there have been occasions where a guy has paid this; he's drunk, he's infatuated with a particular girl and can't bear to see her with another guy, he's leaving in the morning and can't wait until her shift is done; whatever. I know, I know, these are all lousy excuses. But, I think they're banking on the fact that, once in every blue moon there will be someone dumb enough to pay this. When it happens, they cash in. If they can't find a sucker, they keep a full stable of girls for the rest of their customers.
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[QUOTE=VilaMimosa;1321085]Man this women what you are paying in Rio 100 Euro (250 Reais) , when they come to Europe (Germany) they work for 20-50 Euros (50-125 Reais). And look at the german standard and look brazilian. Don't be a fool. The most expensive sex you are paying now in Rio. You don't know nothing about prices in Europe. Everything what you are paying over (100-150 Reais) for a longtime is too much![/QUOTE]Brazilian girls for 20 Euros? Where?
Definiteley not the ones you can find at places like Montecarlo. 4x4 or Solarium.
In any case, please let us (fools) know more about it.
We might be missing something.
Please.
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[QUOTE=SevenBySeven;1321209]Last Sunday I managed to meet Gessica Biel (not sure it is the same Jessica you are talking about). She receive in copacabana, not far from the Balcony Bar. I paid 300 for 1h, however I was not very satisfied. The main problem is that she waited me dressed as a normal girl on Sunday afternoon (no high heels, or sexy lingerie, neither makeup). So indeed she is the girl in the photo, but much much less beautiful.[/QUOTE]So why didn't you just call it off at that point if your initial expectation wasn't even met? 300 reais is nothing to sneeze at for 1 hour's work.
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[QUOTE=Viajero11; 1320810]I probably don't have much to add that hasn't already been discussed, but perhaps this will be helpful to some. I planned a few free days in Rio in early and mid-August in between work obligations. Several previous posts were helpful. Thanks. I enjoy variety in terms of girls and venues and spent most of my time in the Copacabana area. My Portuguese is basic but decent enough to make calls, get information, let the girl know what I'm looking for and expecting, and make a date. As you all know, some language skills can make a BIG difference in terms of the quality of your experience.
I had great results using some of the escort websites and going with girls who had their own place. From cariocasvip I had a great GFE with Leticia who was beautiful, sweet, affectionate, and superb in bed. Had the same with Isa, though she was a little shy with DFK. All natural and very hot in the sack with outstanding oral skills On the way to see Isa I ran into a blonde (usually not my favorite, but it worked well for her) in the hallway and chatted a bit. Jessica was very cute and with a sweet personality and all natural body, so I got her number and we hooked up the next day. Same results in a small but pretty nice apartment. I later saw her on several sites, including cariocasvip. I know it seems hard to believe with photoshop and the like, but she is actually cuter in person than in her photos. Finally I went with Cacau from barrasvip. Com. Br. She was tall and very pretty with long silky black hair and an all natural body. She claimed she was 19, and she was indeed young. If not 19, maybe early 20s. She has that amazing combination of innocence and sexiness that I rarely find. We took our time and had a memorable hour. Excellent oral and fun cuddling and chatting afterwards. All of these sessions were 300 reais, easy to get to in the Copa area, and well worth it. If I'm lucky, some of them will be around next year as I'd repeat with all.
I know using the escort sites is a roll of the dice, but I was lucky as the three ladies I picked were the ones from the photos. I enjoy the privacy and lack of interruptions of a private apartment. Again, speaking some Portuguese made a huge difference.
For a change of pace I stopped by the massage place at 169 Tonelero, basically just a white doorway with the small number outside and a buzzer. Very friendly staff. 6 girls. 3 of which were pretty cute. I went with a petite, natural, very dark skinned babe, Kris. We went for about 45 mins for 100 reais which was a good value as she was an animal, at least for the first 30 mins after which she lost a bit of steam. Still a great session and hard to beat the price. Room was small but clean, decent, and comfortable.
Finally I had to finish with a splurge and go back to Monte Carlo where I'd been just once before. A 4:30 PM weekday arrival may have been early but there were about 12 ladies (most quite beautiful by my standards) but only one other guy, which is the set-up I prefer. I love the arousal of that pre-choice time in a room full of beautiful sexy women who want to make some money making you happy. Spent a half hour chatting with almost all of them before choosing Vanessa. For the high price, my expectations at the termas are very high, and Vanessa didn't disappoint. Long silky dark hair, great smile, drop dead body with perfect skin, small but nice tits, and no tats. While that was great, what exceeded my expectations was her attitude and performance. Sweet, affectionate, super-sexy, playful, and lots of energy. I used every precious minute of that expensive hour. Uma boa memoria do Brasil. By the time I left about 6:20 PM there were probably another 4-5 girls but at least a dozen more guys.
Though it ain't the cheapest, Rio is still one of my favorite places. With some patience, a little Portuguese, and a little luck, the women are some of the best.[/QUOTE]Nice report. Where is 169 Tonelero? Thanks
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Apartamento!
It's the most easiest thing to find a hooker in Rio. Does anyone know where could I find not so expensive apartment or a room for rent in Zona Sul.
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A hint for websites
[QUOTE=SevenBySeven;1321209]Last Sunday I managed to meet Gessica Biel (not sure it is the same Jessica you are talking about). She receive in copacabana, not far from the Balcony Bar. I paid 300 for 1h, however I was not very satisfied. The main problem is that she waited me dressed as a normal girl on Sunday afternoon (no high heels, or sexy lingerie, neither makeup). So indeed she is the girl in the photo, but much much less beautiful. Regarding the service, she tried to make me happy, but was not very good at oral (which is the part I prefer). I know, as you said it is a roll of dice: I personally prefer termas because I am in Rio just few days per year, so I like to go in a place where I can choose a girl that I like. Also the time you spend with her before going in the room is important to understand which is her attitude and if she is going to satisfy you as you wish. With girls on escort site you just get what you get. The photo are just an indication, and most of them are highly photoshoped. Moreover, the face is almost never visible (which is an important part for me).[/QUOTE]I couldn't agree more: It's a roll of dice. And termas (even privés) give you a more direct knowledge of the girl.
But here is a hint: Whenever I make calls in Rio I previously check the local forums (GP Guia, FSD, Hot).
They are in Portuguese but you can use Google Translate. Just go to PESQUISAR and write the name of the girl. There's plenty of information and quite updated.
In the case of Jessica Biel here's the info: [url]http://www.gpguia.net/viewtopic.php?f=88&t=126335[/url]
It's not a perfect system, but if you see that a girl has lots and lots of positive reports, then you know that you're into something good.
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First Day Report
Gents, here goes a summary of my first day back in Rio after a two year absence.
Flight & Bus ride: Arrived Rio at 8:30 am from New York by way of Charlotte. Cleared customs in a record 20 minutes despite a long line; They had extra officers working the line and pushing things. Made a right after exiting the arrivals terminal to take the blue bus to copa. Bus fare is R$12 (was R$7 last I was here). Ask before entering the bus as the ones going to the local airport and copa look the same. Bus ride is 45 minutes and got dropped off in front of copa palace.
Hotel: walked the two blocks to Hotel Praia Lido on Nosso Senhora Copacabana. The front desk clerk, Andre, whom I've known for over ten years, quoted me R$195 for a regular room and R$330 for a suite per noite. Took the regular room, put my things away and went down stairs to change money and stock up on Preserv Extra condoms (still the best these years). Exchange rate is R$2. 00 to R$2. 10. I got R$2. 05 at the cambio opposite Hotel Praia Lido.
Girls: Dropped by balcony, ordered a skol and sat down to check out the scene. A lot of the garotas were well past their expiration but there were at least three that were at least a 7. Within 5 seconds I got hit up by this fugly and she would not take no for an answer. Decided to pay the tab and skip. Get the bill and it's R$18 for two skols, WTF. They will not be seeing much of me at balcony this visit. Got back to the hotel, called an old friend. She was in my bed within 45 minutes. Broke out the pocket rocket and she went to town; great investment. She gave me the best BBBJ that I've had in a while, then rode me like a champ for what seemed like an eternity until I erupted. I wanted to take a breather but this girl was like the energizer bunny. I tried like a man to give this girl a pounding but man I just couldn't get her there. I has to throw in the towel like Roberto Duran and say No Mas. Guys if you are coming down bring your A game because these girls don't play.
Later in the evening I checked out Monte Carlo (R$80 entrada; R$390 girl in cabine for 40 mins; R$450 for uma hora) but did not partake. Also checked out club 22 (R$30 entrada) , also did not partake. Ended the night with Manuela from Starcris escorts. Total GFE and fun to be with. Damage for two hours was R$170.
General observation: Rio is definitely more expensive than what it used to be and the P4P scene is different. One thing that has not changed is the girls. Brazilian girls can still put it down bar none.
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AirBnb for Apartments
[QUOTE=VilaMimosa;1321457]It's the most easiest thing to find a hooker in Rio. Does anyone know where could I find not so expensive apartment or a room for rent in Zona Sul.[/QUOTE]I have been using airbnb with some success. Be sure about their guest policy though!
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[QUOTE=Carlos3000;1321692]Later in the evening I checked out Monte Carlo (R$80 entrada; R$390 girl in cabine for 40 mins; R$450 for uma hora) but did not partake.[/QUOTE]Wow. MC went up again. R390 for 40min. I'm assuming that includes the R80 for entry. Hopefully they're still running specials with the flyer on Tuesday.
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[QUOTE=Solohunter;1319773]Another cutey came to chat with me. I bought her a drink and talked a bit. She said the night was really slow. Not many customers. She asked if I wanted to take her out for dinner and dancing and then a night at the hotel. I said sure, as she was a great lady. How much? She said she would check. She left and came back with a figure. 2450 Real. About US$1250. Cheap she said, a discount for me. I smiled and politely declined. I can't imagine many women in the world where I would pay that kind of money. Wow. And it was 9:30 pm with a closing of (I think 2:00 am).[/QUOTE]People already commented about this but just wanted to say I think the problem here is more attitude and lack of experience than just "blame the venue." I suspect you might have had a bit of a newbie look on your face; asking "how much" didn't help either.
Now I can respect the concept of a "takeout fee" or fine but since she quoted an outrageous price, that's a warning that she probably saw you as an easy sucker from the get-go, so she might not even be worth a lay for any price at this point. Better strategy that might redeem your chances in this situation is to ask her if she can come over to your place after her shift is over and that you'll make it worth her while. I'd say 500r for a 2 hr roll in the hay is more than enough for her, especially if the night is slow and she's clearly desperate for some cash. I'm sure some guys here will insist even that is too much but that would be my ceiling for a C girl who I think is a 9 or 10.
Now I'm not boasting or attacking you, my methods are still hit and miss. But at least I have a shot whereas I suspect your chance was already near zero the moment she started to walk over to talk to you (she only saw you as a potential huge pay-day and you never did anything to change that expectation until the very end when it was too late). That's what I hope you'll take from this. It's not just about the venue, more important still is picking up the psychology and the right attitudes. I can go into a much longer spiel about this but I'll leave it at "relaxed alpha-male" as the attitude I try to project; some guys will disagree and prefer a more aggressive approach but this is what I'm more comfortable with as I think confronting, challenging, or arguing with the girls backfires much more often than not.
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Keep Doing A Good Job!
[QUOTE=Solohunter; 1319773]Went to Centaurus yesterday (Saturday). Just came across it without looking for it but knew of it from the forum. I was surprised at the price. 140 Real entrance fee and 350 Real for a lady (40 minutes). Total of 490 (about US$ 220) , which I thought was steep. But what the heck, how often are you in Rio? The manager at the front desk was nice and professional and spoke good English. Courteous guy in my view.
Routine as described here. Change into a clean but faded and well used white robe. Lock your clothes and belongings in a locker, take a (cold) shower and then upstairs to see the girls. I was surprised by how small the main room was. I expected bigger given what I had heard about Centaurus.
The manager said he had 65 girls. I saw probably 40 or so while I was there. Ranged from a 7 with lots of 8's, a few 9's and a couple of 10's. Mostly white skinned, some with a bit of tan. No black girls, which was too bad as many of them are great lookers. I like the lingerie they wear. Black, white or red. Nice. The girls were friendly and laid back. No feeling of being rushed. I talked to a few and then chose a nice tan skinned lady with some nice knockers that turned out to be silicone aided, which was one point down. She was a 9 in my judgment but more than made up for it with a great attitude. Nice session then back to the main room.
Another cutey came to chat with me. I bought her a drink and talked a bit. She said the night was really slow. Not many customers. She asked if I wanted to take her out for dinner and dancing and then a night at the hotel. I said sure, as she was a great lady. How much? She said she would check. She left and came back with a figure. 2450 Real. About US$1250. Cheap she said, a discount for me. I smiled and politely declined. I can't imagine many women in the world where I would pay that kind of money. Wow. And it was 9:30 pm with a closing of (I think 2:00 am). She was understanding but disappointed not to leave. A boring night. My guess is she would have made a lot from the fee also. After a few minutes, I gave her a kiss on the cheek and departed.
The good: Professional, courteous service. Lots of choices with girls who both looked great, nice personalities and speak enough English to get by. Professionally run. Courteous staff. Laid back atmosphere. You are not rushed.
The bad: really expensive. Probably will not repeat due to price. Rooms are plain. Not shabby, but plain given how much you are paying. The robes have seen better times. And they ought to do something about those cold showers.[/QUOTE]Man why didn't you pay that girl for a whole night it was so cheap. She got payed already that price, so she wouldn't ask if she wasn't. Everything in Rio is very cheap nowadays:hotels, apartamento, garotas. Just keep paying that kind of prices in 2 years everything is going to be 3 times higher. 1000 (Reais) for one hour and 1000 (Reais) at Termas for 30 min. I can't believe that some guys are ready to pay just ANY price to get a little bit of brazilian pussy. I know that some very rich guys have the money to blow out, but still it's just a pussy. So at the end, just pay anything what a garota wants you to pay (1000, 2000, 3000) whatever it's "RIO TIME" and enjoy yourself. KEEP DOING A GOOD JOB!