East China - Shanghai

[QUOTE=ShanghaiGuide;1823998]We really talk about a serious "storm warning" this days. Just to set in in a relation: We never had a "weather forecast" like that since I monitor the Nightlife Scene in Shanghai (since 2010). In the past the "bad weather" often was used to explain, that they will close down because of some special event, and sometimes we had local weather where it was sure some special clubs will get a visit of the "blue crew". Now we talk about several serious raids which hundreds of the "blue guys" will be involved this days. So that is far away from all LE activities in Shanghai before!

The center of the thunderstorm regarding to the forecast will be Min Hang district, but it obviously also influence the nearby districts, so for example Mansion 45 and Red House both also closed (and they have very good "connection" to the weather god), so I would stay away from any sauna in Puxi this days. And much more from the massage and barbershops!

We do not talk about a 50% chance to be caught in a raid and even there are thousands of shops there, I would not recommend to take over the risk to be the one who will be caught "with trousers down".

But if you still plan to visit some sauna or massage places, be prepared and research about how to behave in a raid to reduce at least the risk to get much more trouble than necessary.

For example there was a guy who thought, he can believe the police guy who asked him in a HJ massage shop, if he got a happy ending or not. The police guy told him, that it would not be a problem for him to tell the true, they only need to know it for the report, but a HJ would not be a problem at all. After he confirmed, that he received a handjob, he was immediately arrested and spend nearly 4 weeks in a not so comfortable jail in Shanghai. The girl or any other one in the shop never would have confirmed any activities like that and there was no evidence (no condom there), so without his avowal all would have got out of that without any consequences. So worth to be prepared always, but much more for the guys who are willing to explore the eye of the hurricane this days.

There is always a good and a bad way to handle a worst case like a raid, and if the bad way will ban you from China for some years, I would recommend to try all you can do to follow the "good way".

Just my personal view (and no need to worry, there are still many options in Shanghai to make sure, you will not have to find a "one man solution".

So let's go on party.[/QUOTE]Steven- I just paid a visit to the Kang Ding and had no issues - 900 for 75 minutes with a 20 year old hottie. Staff seemed to suggest the owner has paid a great deal for protection (for what it's worth, who knows). Anyway, I like the place, with SNG's discount, but would warn that no one there speaks English. Really works better for those with at least a rudimentary knowledge of Chinese.

Please. It adds zero at this point to respond to Hobbiest's incoherent posts. Just ignore the troll.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1824245]I am an American too and not a big fan of the Donald, but if it came down to a choice between Trump and Hillary, I would choose Trump in a heart beat. I sincerely hope it does not come down to that choice because I think there are more qualified people running for the office, but almost anybody would be better than Ms. Clinton.[/QUOTE]My thoughts exactly, just hope enough millions feel the same way.

In the spirit of the forum, here is a pic from a popular Changping Lu BBS. Unfortunately she got herself knocked up last trip back home.

[QUOTE=TheGuy;1824511]Please. It adds zero at this point to respond to Hobbiest's incoherent posts. Just ignore the troll.[/QUOTE]I second that, Hohbit has no life and answering him about a country he doesn't live in or understand just pollutes the thread for no purpose.

[QUOTE=TheGuy;1824509]Steven- I just paid a visit to the Kang Ding and had no issues - 900 for 75 minutes with a 20 year old hottie. Staff seemed to suggest the owner has paid a great deal for protection (for what it's worth, who knows). Anyway, I like the place, with SNG's discount, but would warn that no one there speaks English. Really works better for those with at least a rudimentary knowledge of Chinese.[/QUOTE]From what I saw from the address they advertise on chinese websites, they are located a few hundred meters from the Jing'an Public Security Bureau HQ. So it gives you an idea of the kind of protection they are paying for. But many other places seem to be opened in Jing'an district so I guess its more a question of the area not being a target this week.

[QUOTE=Sinofaguo;1824643]I second that, Hohbit has no life and answering him about a country he doesn't live in or understand just pollutes the thread for no purpose.[/QUOTE]Thank you very much. I am not looking for your approval or responses. I am just here to share some of my experiences with those not as knowledgeable than you. Why don't you just put me on ignore if you find my posts useless and then you don't have to even see them? Got to go back to the beach. Hey. Pass the sunscreen. It's getting hot. IT'S GOOOOD!

[QUOTE=Hobbiest1;1824712]Thank you very much. I am not looking for your approval or responses. I am just here to share some of my experiences with those not as knowledgeable than you. Why don't you just put me on ignore if you find my posts useless and then you don't have to even see them? Got to go back to the beach. Hey. Pass the sunscreen. It's getting hot. IT'S GOOOOD![/QUOTE]You have no experiences to share except your stupidities. Seems you are even proud of them.

Lev.

[QUOTE=TheGuy;1824509]Steven- I just paid a visit to the Kang Ding and had no issues - 900 for 75 minutes with a 20 year old hottie. Staff seemed to suggest the owner has paid a great deal for protection (for what it's worth, who knows). Anyway, I like the place, with SNG's discount, but would warn that no one there speaks English. Really works better for those with at least a rudimentary knowledge of Chinese.[/QUOTE]The protection is the most important point for running this business. There is no sauna running longer than some days without that, but the deal mostly include, that you will have to accept a "shareholder" for your sauna to get a reliable weather forecast, if a storm will come up.

I talked with a girl in December who told me, in their sauna there was a drunken Chinese guy who was not happy to pay for a service not satisfied him and he called the police over to the sauna to complain about the lousy service. And really two police guys arrived less than 5 minutes later, all girls in panic when the guys in uniform arrived, but the owner told them not to care about his "friends". They could not find the guy who called them first, so they called his number, found the guy with the "ringing phone" and took him out. And all while the normal sauna business went on there!

So this cooperation normally works well, but seems actually they use on purpose police units from other Shanghai districts to avoid a forewarning.

[QUOTE=Levitian;1824729]You have no experiences to share except your stupidities. Seems you are even proud of them.

Lev.[/QUOTE]Thanks very much for your input. I believe your comments are representative of the country you live in and the people you "live" around. I am not stupid. I just met up with some silly scam artists. Don't know exactly why you want to take their side and intimate it's my fault because I fell for their crap but thanks for understanding.

Karma may be right around the corner to teach you some humility soon. As I stated in numerous posts, I don't believe in attacking others unless provoked. You have gone out of your way to provoke me so I now must say to you. I'm sorry, please forgive me. Thank you. I love you!

Now please go spread peace and happiness and try to see thru all the negativity in your heart.

H1.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1824239]The authorities may have shut down ChangPing, but apparently there are a lot of girls from that area still looking for Mr. Goodbar.
If I was a China traveler, I would check out China Love Cupid more thoroughly.[/QUOTE]The crackdown is starting to hurt China in the pocketbook as more companies are moving manufacturing to other nearby countries where they do not have to worry they are going to get caught in some political vendetta. . Maybe one day things will get better, but I doubt I will ever see it.

As to China Love and the like. While generally the pictures are real albeit photoshoped the messages you get from the girls usually are not. A friend of mine works for one of the dating sites as a "translator" and she gets paid by the amount of correspondence she can get.

Froggie

I had a similar experience with in-room massage at this hotel.

[QUOTE=Shanghai1955;1710931]I was in Shanghai last week. When in Shanghai I stay at the Marriott City Center. After a long fight the day before I went to the 6th floor and asked for a 2 hour massage later in the afternoon. After the first hour, my masseuse had me flip over. She started to talk with me with very poor English and my.

Chinese is limited to Hello,.

Finally I spoke the two universal words "Happy Ending". She gets a big smile and shakes her head yes. She indicated to me 2,000 RMB. I said no way, 500 RMB. After a few minutes of back and forth I stuck with my price and she agreed. So the next hour she gave me one of the best lingam massage that I have had. I believe that the spa at the Marriott just leases the place to an independent group. Tina was my masseuse. She even gave me her cell number and would come to my room. I did not see her again, because I have other local talent that I see.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Beijing4987;1823275]Mac. Go to #98 Ronghua Rd near the intersection at Suicheng Rd. FS is available. Pay for a membership and more info will be shared.[/QUOTE]Thanks Beijing, I think I found the place on a recon of the area, very close to some golden statues of little angels holding various musical instruments, with the place being adjacent to that little square. Am I on the right track? Looking through the window, I saw several pair of legs sitting in the lobby. It looked like several BBS were open in that area. The poles were spinning, anyway.

This really sucks. Have heard of the legendary Shanghai spas for years, and now my first trip during a time when LE wants to cock-block.

Aside, I made it to Manhattan Club Saturday night and the place was absolutely packed, with a great selection of mostly Viet WGs. I made a selection (May, 30 yo) and negotiated all night for 1500. L / a / s 7/9/9. Great GFE, two pops at night and one in the morning. She loved BBBJ almost as much as I do. She would coax me to the edge then pull back. Good stuff. Her mei mei smelled just like fish sauce. No exaggeration, but other than that she was all right. By US of A (LOL) standards was a good deal, but how was the deal by local standards?

Thanks for the guidance bros.

Were there any bust ups of sinful places in Shanghai reported in the newspapers or TV over the last few days? Or did we get bluffed?

[QUOTE=NorthSouth;1824942]Were there any bust ups of sinful places in Shanghai reported in the newspapers or TV over the last few days? Or did we get bluffed?[/QUOTE]The 2 "sinful" MPs on the 3200 block on Hongmei Lu (near Laowai Jie) were closed today. This is in the Minhang District that SNG referred to. I've never seen those places closed.

[QUOTE=MacTheNight;1824904]Thanks Beijing, I think I found the place on a recon of the area, very close to some golden statues of little angels holding various musical instruments, with the place being adjacent to that little square. Am I on the right track? Looking through the window, I saw several pair of legs sitting in the lobby. It looked like several BBS were open in that area. The poles were spinning, anyway.

This really sucks. Have heard of the legendary Shanghai spas for years, and now my first trip during a time when LE wants to cock-block.

Aside, I made it to Manhattan Club Saturday night and the place was absolutely packed, with a great selection of mostly Viet WGs. I made a selection (May, 30 yo) and negotiated all night for 1500. L / a / s 7/9/9. Great GFE, two pops at night and one in the morning. She loved BBBJ almost as much as I do. She would coax me to the edge then pull back. Good stuff. Her mei mei smelled just like fish sauce. No exaggeration, but other than that she was all right. By US of A (LOL) standards was a good deal, but how was the deal by local standards?

Thanks for the guidance bros.[/QUOTE]You did great. As a local Chinese speaker, I couldn't have done better.