Hong Kong Club Reports

[QUOTE=HawaiianIce;2360727]Hi all,

I am coming into San Diego Friday morning and will spend all day at Hong Kong for my 1st visit. It's been great reading all your comments. I am not the typical customer and have some unique questions.

First off, I am not looking for FS but BBBJ and will pay whatever it takes for an 8-10 type girl. I know I could take a girl upstairs and offer an extra $100 and probably get it, but I'm looking for it to happen more organically. So I'm wondering what my best course of action is to take at HK for this to happen? Buy a girl a lot of drinks and she how 'frisky' she is and then buy 4-6 dances and offer nice tips? Or do you think this a losing cause? Perhaps there are some other clubs in Tijuana that don't have a hotel attached and are known for really great lap dances since that's where they make their money. Any advice would be appreciated.

Also, I am planning to park at the border, walk across and take a cab. I feel like my pockets will be completely full: phone, wallet, condoms (in case I can't find BBBJ), powder (to keep fresh), passport, gum, etc. Does HK have lockers you can rent? Any advice what to take? Is the phone a mistake? Do they typically work in Tijuana?

A review at Deja Vu says you can sit and make out with a girl all day long if you buy her a drink now and then. That sounds kinda fun. Any truth to that? And how does DJV compare to HK? Is it worth trying if I'll be in Tijuana all day?

Any advice is greatly appreciated as this may be my one and only time visiting Tijuana. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Ho because. You from Hawaii?

Best tip I can give you is tell her what you want first or you will get disappointed. I have gotten BBBJ at HK before but it was the 2nd or 3rd time going upstairs. I had one chick tell me no but gave me the best BBBJ later in the room. Some girls you meet will be cold as ice at first so buying a drink, tip and couple trips upstairs will loosen them up. If your main goal is to get BBBJ then maybe a agency will be your best route. If you are planning on staying awhile and taking a few trips upstairs then getting a room at Cascadas would be a good option. Anything I don't want to bring in the club I leave in the room. As for De Ja Vu, I've been there about a dozen times. There are some hot ones in there but also many fugly ones. It's nice that the chicks don't rush you and spend time chit chatting and lap dances. I normally go here when other clubs are packed. If you are limited on time and don't frequent Tijuana then I wouldn't recommend. HK is where it's at.

Shoots brah.

Hong Kong is a clipjoint, dancebar, *house, Disney, whatever you make of it. There must be something about it because ever since I walked past that curtain several years ago, I keep flying for 13 hrs and clear customs from 2 countries to get back.

Definitely can drain your resources but the trick is to swim with the sharks without getting eaten.

To Hawaiian ice, not aware of lockers but I have often checked a bag at the vip counter as you walk in.

BBBJ is very hit and miss. You often have to know the girl at least a little but there have been occasions where girls were walking around whispering the offer as they walked by.

I cannot comment on Dega Vu.

[QUOTE=HawaiianIce;2360727]Also, I am planning to park at the border, walk across and take a cab. I feel like my pockets will be completely full: phone, wallet, condoms (in case I can't find BBBJ), powder (to keep fresh), passport, gum, etc. Does HK have lockers you can rent? Any advice what to take? Is the phone a mistake? Do they typically work in Tijuana?

A review at Deja Vu says you can sit and make out with a girl all day long if you buy her a drink now and then. That sounds kinda fun. Any truth to that? And how does DJV compare to HK? Is it worth trying if I'll be in Tijuana all day?

Any advice is greatly appreciated as this may be my one and only time visiting Tijuana. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Bring a bag too put your stuff in, you can leave it at the HK customer service.

I wouldn't leave anything to valuable in it tho.

[QUOTE=HawaiianIce;2360727]I am coming into San Diego Friday morning and will spend all day at Hong Kong for my 1st visit. It's been great reading all your comments. I am not the typical customer and have some unique questions.[/QUOTE]I think you need to read through a lot more of this forum. These questions indicate that you may not have done all the research you should have.

[QUOTE=HawaiianIce;2360727]First off, I am not looking for FS but BBBJ and will pay whatever it takes for an 8-10 type girl. I know I could take a girl upstairs and offer an extra $100 and probably get it, but I'm looking for it to happen more organically. So I'm wondering what my best course of action is to take at HK for this to happen? Buy a girl a lot of drinks and she how 'frisky' she is and then buy 4-6 dances and offer nice tips? Or do you think this a losing cause?[/QUOTE]Some girls will do anything for an extra tip. Some won't do anything extra for any amount of money. You need to be clear and interview the girl before you take her up. Set firm expectations. "I want oral no condom" -- they will understand that even if you don't speak any spanish at all. If she HAS to be an 8-10 and you HAVE to have BBBJ, you may have to tip. But don't tip an extra $100. Why would you do that? The basic rate for a hottie is $80. Less during slow times, more during busy times. If you are going to offer a tip for BBBJ, make it $20. Not $100.

[QUOTE=HawaiianIce;2360727]Also, I am planning to park at the border, walk across and take a cab. I feel like my pockets will be completely full: phone, wallet, condoms (in case I can't find BBBJ), powder (to keep fresh), passport, gum, etc. Does HK have lockers you can rent? Any advice what to take? Is the phone a mistake? Do they typically work in Tijuana?[/QUOTE]Are you just going for the day? You don't need much. Powder? Not sure what that is about. I can keep a phone, wallet, condoms, passport and money in my pockets. I leave the gum at home -- but you can buy it in Mexico if you need it. There are no lockers, but you can leave a small bag at the front desk for a tip of a couple of bucks. Don't leave anything valuable.

Check with your carrier to see if your phone will work in Tijuana. Most will but you may get charged roaming and you may need to set up some international service. Or if it is just for the day you could forget about your phone for a little while.

[QUOTE=HawaiianIce;2360727]A review at Deja Vu says you can sit and make out with a girl all day long if you buy her a drink now and then. That sounds kinda fun. Any truth to that? And how does DJV compare to HK? Is it worth trying if I'll be in Tijuana all day?[/QUOTE]Don't go to Deja Vu. It is a ripoff. If you want a BJ, just go to Hong Kong. If you want to sit with a pretty girl you can do it there as well. You buy her a $9 drink every 15-20 minutes. That's the interview time. You can then send her on her way if she isn't very affectionate, or if she drinks too fast and wants another right away. Or you can suggest a trip upstairs. Or you buy her another drink for more interview time in the booth. Note that the hottest girls often don't want to sit around drinking beers, especially if the club is busy. They only make about $1. 50 of that $9, so if they think they can get an $80 trip upstairs instead, they'll be gone. Some of the most in demand girls won't even sit with you. They only go upstairs.

Good luck. Hope this isn't your only chance to visit Tijuana.

Thanks for all the quick responses. You guys are great.

Maybe my first post was a little clunky. My main point is that I am not a big fan of just handing over money and then getting FS or a BBBJ. It's nothing moral or anything like that. I just like the thrill of the hunt and the surprise. Not knowing exactly what is going to happen. Maybe that makes me weird or something. I like foreplay and teasing. My favorite thing to do here in the states is go to a strip club and hope that maybe something extra could happen during a lap dance. I've received FS and BBBJ a several times and a HJ lots of times. But most of the time I don't. But it feels like a won the lottery when she asks if I want anything extra (for a fee of course). It's like randomly walking into an Asian massage parlor. Not knowing if they offer extras. And then after the massage she asks, "is there anything else you want?" It's like hitting a home run.

So I've always heard Tijuana was famous for its strip clubs, so I thought it would be the capital of lap dances with high mileage. That was probably stupid of me to assume in a city that has legal prostitution. So it is not about the BBBJ itself, but the chase and surprise of it all. So I got excited when I heard you can buy a lady drinks and make out and fondle all day and then move to lap dances and what I assumed could be likely high mileage. Maybe Tijuana isn't the city for me. I'm not sure. But If anybody knows of a strip club that doesn't have a hotel attached and gets most of their money from lap dances, I would be most appreciative. Or is this possible at all in the Hong Kong lap dance areas? Thanks in advance for any advice.

A few things: $80 for 15 minutes is the gold standard at Hong Kong, fact. I showed up as a fresh gringo, completely new to the scene. Not a push over at all, limited Spanish. Went in with an open mind. My experience? $80 for 15 minutes. That's across the board. And no it's not because I finished too fast. 15 minutes is literally the standard time. I've been with over a dozen HK and bar girls now, this is what I've noticed.

They think they're smart, but they're not. You don't have to be a genius to realize you are being shorted on your time. You can tell. Once you start fucking her to when you finish up, it will be at the most 15 minutes of time, I guarantee you that. Just try it yourself. Get a HK girl and track the time of the session. Track the minute you actually start fucking her. And then just keep banging her and wait until she starts moaning and complaining "babyyy your time is up! You got to cum soon baby! She may not whine like that, but basically she will signal you that it's time to stop and finish. I guarantee you that this will happen at the 15 minute mark. Maybe even the 14 minute mark. Every little minute matters. When you're a customer, you should be getting your money's worth. These dumb girls don't understand that. Which is why I probably won't go to HK again or bar girls in general.

I remember one girl from Adelitas I saw. She spent like 3 minutes putting the condom on me. Then I touched the condom and she made me take it off and put on a new one. Like what the fuck? This dumb ***** is cheating me out of my time. I decide to just go with it. What the fuck am I suppose to say, no? I'm the fucking customer. So I put on another condom, another 3-4 minutes cause she's fucking taking her time and shit, being a little *****. She knows what she's doing, she knows she's shaving off so much time by being a ***** and taking forever. I'm like 7 minutes into this fucking session and I'm still not fucking the girl yet. What. The. Fuck. Now I only have like 8 minutes to fuck her. LOL. Seriously fuck. These. Girls. LOL. Most of them are awful. So god awful. No customer service whatsoever. No regard for the customer, at all. It's fucking terrible and awful. My advice is to find an all time favorite that actually gives a shit about what she does, and cling on to her like a mad man. The last thing you want is to go around "experimenting" with random dumb girls whose only intention is to suck you dry of money and provide you next to nothing. Believe me, HK and bars are full of these girls, almost every one.

As for someone saying: be lucky you can fuck these girls for $60-80. I agree with that, it's great. Which is why I recommend HK and the zona in general for first time visitors. After the first time though, it's pointless. The novelty wears off. After you fuck your first round of girls, you start to recognize this shit show for what it is. Then your experiences won't be the same anymore. Then you realize you're better off putting in a little more work and finding working girls that actually care about their customers. Whether that's through the street, escorts, or through other means.

You realize that the easy bar fuck with an HK girl is so fucking lame and bullshit in terms of service, and that you would rather save your money and put it to more effective uses. Probably the main thing you should take away from all of this.

Celebrating getting out of a shit relationship by visiting Hong Kong this Friday. First time in two years to Tijuana. Any fellow mongers interested in meeting up?

Captain Solo I owe you a beer simply for all the info you've provided LOL.

HK. Third level closed. $80/20 min knock. Not the 30 min. Shared imaginary contact on her part.

Copeco. Local on a night out.

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;2361019]A few things: $80 for 15 minutes is the gold standard at Hong Kong, fact. I showed up as a fresh gringo, completely new to the scene. Not a push over at all, limited Spanish. Went in with an open mind. My experience? $80 for 15 minutes. That's across the board. And no it's not because I finished too fast. 15 minutes is literally the standard time. I've been with over a dozen HK and bar girls now, this is what I've noticed.

They think they're smart, but they're not. You don't have to be a genius to realize you are being shorted on your time. You can tell. Once you start fucking her to when you finish up, it will be at the most 15 minutes of time, I guarantee you that. Just try it yourself. Get a HK girl and track the time of the session. Track the minute you actually start fucking her. And then just keep banging her and wait until she starts moaning and complaining "babyyy your time is up! You got to cum soon baby! She may not whine like that, but basically she will signal you that it's time to stop and finish. I guarantee you that this will happen at the 15 minute mark. Maybe even the 14 minute mark. Every little minute matters. When you're a customer, you should be getting your money's worth. These dumb girls don't understand that. Which is why I probably won't go to HK again or bar girls in general.

I remember one girl from Adelitas I saw. She spent like 3 minutes putting the condom on me. Then I touched the condom and she made me take it off and put on a new one. Like what the fuck? This dumb ***** is cheating me out of my time. I decide to just go with it. What the fuck am I suppose to say, no? I'm the fucking customer. So I put on another condom, another 3-4 minutes cause she's fucking taking her time and shit, being a little *****. She knows what she's doing, she knows she's shaving off so much time by being a ***** and taking forever. I'm like 7 minutes into this fucking session and I'm still not fucking the girl yet. What. The. Fuck. Now I only have like 8 minutes to fuck her. LOL. Seriously fuck. These. Girls. LOL. Most of them are awful. So god awful. No customer service whatsoever. No regard for the customer, at all. It's fucking terrible and awful. My advice is to find an all time favorite that actually gives a shit about what she does, and cling on to her like a mad man. The last thing you want is to go around "experimenting" with random dumb girls whose only intention is to suck you dry of money and provide you next to nothing. Believe me, HK and bars are full of these girls, almost every one.

As for someone saying: be lucky you can fuck these girls for $60-80. I agree with that, it's great. Which is why I recommend HK and the zona in general for first time visitors. After the first time though, it's pointless. The novelty wears off. After you fuck your first round of girls, you start to recognize this shit show for what it is. Then your experiences won't be the same anymore. Then you realize you're better off putting in a little more work and finding working girls that actually care about their customers. Whether that's through the street, escorts, or through other means.

You realize that the easy bar fuck with an HK girl is so fucking lame and bullshit in terms of service, and that you would rather save your money and put it to more effective uses. Probably the main thing you should take away from all of this.[/QUOTE]I think this should be noted as an example of one's personal experience and generalization. My experiences have been totally different. I've had ONE experience where the chica says it is time. But, it does not make your report an less valid. However, I will say that to give such a grim picture of "most of them are awful" is unwarranted. Perhaps they saw you as an easy score or whatever, but those were the chicas that gravitated to you that night. I would be more interested in how to avoid those chicas than generalizing most of them. I've had one chica stayed TLN because she was really into me (no further donations), and I've had a couple of clock watchers. Sorry you didn't have a good time. Hope the next time will be better.

All of these complaints about 30 minutes actually being -5 minutes is this true if you book for an hour? Do they short you on time for an hour?

It's been a while since I've posted and there are various reasons for that. We all look for different things, different types, and we certainly all have different expectations.

When I first started visiting TIjuana years ago, I was a big fan of the escort scene. I slowly became more fond of the bar game for several reasons. Nearly all of my experiences have been positive and enjoyable. I can count on one hand my bad experiences.

I read the discussions regarding the cost, the time spend, and the attitude. First, let me say, I'm an ugly gringo. LOL I'm overweight. I am clean but my overall appearance does me no favors. But with one single exception, I've never had a time issue. Just the opposite. If I finish before 30 minutes, which unfortunately for me is very rare, the girl just wants to hang out. I read about how girls rush downstairs to pull in the next guy. My experience is that the girls enjoy the break. They certainly weren't in a rush to get back down there. Seriously, these girls are not just machines. Yes, I'm certain there are some that pull 5+ arribas a night. But with a VERY minimum amount of screening, you'll weed them out.

As for the bar policies, calling them a clip joint is amusing. Of course there are bad meseros waiting to rip you off. But in general, virtually all bars and most businesses want your money. That is hardly unique to HK, Tijuana or Mexico.

My best advice to newbies:

Treat these girls as women, not putas. That does not mean overspending. But treat them with respect. If you stumble on the bad apples, move on. They choose this life, but it is tough. But if you treat them as a puta, don't expect a good experience.

Budget. There are more times than I want to count where I overspent. Not on the girl, but on the night, drinks, etc. But do I regret those instances? Nope. I've had more than one night of my life there over the last year. Similarly, as has been said recently, if you are ready to argue with a girl over $5, that's not going to lend itself to GFE. Negotiating in Mexico is a norm, more so than in the US. But there is a fine line between negotiating and just killing the mood. Right or wrong, if you are a gringo, the chicas will assume you are swimming in money. Know your price. Stick to your guns and if she doesn't like your price, there is no shortage of options.

I've made a lot of friends over the last year. I somewhat regularly see BGs that I would rate as at least an 8 outside the bars. Some of those are platonic relationships, some not. For those that aren't, I'm not paying a dime beyond a dinner or a couple drinks at a civie bar. Again, I'll remind you, I'm no prize physically. And I do not intend this as a bragadocious post. I say this in the hopes that newbies and veterans alike can find some helpful tips, primarily, treat the girl with respect and you will be rewarded. Realize that any of the girls will take you upstairs and take your money. Your challenge, and it's not difficult, is to find the one that actually won't mind taking you up there.

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;2361019]A few things: $80 for 15 minutes is the gold standard at Hong Kong, fact. I showed up as a fresh gringo, completely new to the scene. Not a push over at all, limited Spanish. Went in with an open mind. My experience? $80 for 15 minutes. That's across the board. And no it's not because I finished too fast. 15 minutes is literally the standard time. I've been with over a dozen HK and bar girls now, this is what I've noticed.

They think they're smart, but they're not. You don't have to be a genius to realize you are being shorted on your time. You can tell. Once you start fucking her to when you finish up, it will be at the most 15 minutes of time, I guarantee you that. Just try it yourself. Get a HK girl and track the time of the session. Track the minute you actually start fucking her. And then just keep banging her and wait until she starts moaning and complaining "babyyy your time is up! You got to cum soon baby! She may not whine like that, but basically she will signal you that it's time to stop and finish. I guarantee you that this will happen at the 15 minute mark. Maybe even the 14 minute mark. Every little minute matters. When you're a customer, you should be getting your money's worth. These dumb girls don't understand that. Which is why I probably won't go to HK again or bar girls in general.

I remember one girl from Adelitas I saw. She spent like 3 minutes putting the condom on me. Then I touched the condom and she made me take it off and put on a new one. Like what the fuck? This dumb ***** is cheating me out of my time. I decide to just go with it. What the fuck am I suppose to say, no? I'm the fucking customer. So I put on another condom, another 3-4 minutes cause she's fucking taking her time and shit, being a little *****. She knows what she's doing, she knows she's shaving off so much time by being a ***** and taking forever. I'm like 7 minutes into this fucking session and I'm still not fucking the girl yet. What. The. Fuck. Now I only have like 8 minutes to fuck her. LOL. Seriously fuck. These. Girls. LOL. Most of them are awful. So god awful. No customer service whatsoever. No regard for the customer, at all. It's fucking terrible and awful. My advice is to find an all time favorite that actually gives a shit about what she does, and cling on to her like a mad man. The last thing you want is to go around "experimenting" with random dumb girls whose only intention is to suck you dry of money and provide you next to nothing. Believe me, HK and bars are full of these girls, almost every one.

As for someone saying: be lucky you can fuck these girls for $60-80. I agree with that, it's great. Which is why I recommend HK and the zona in general for first time visitors. After the first time though, it's pointless. The novelty wears off. After you fuck your first round of girls, you start to recognize this shit show for what it is. Then your experiences won't be the same anymore. Then you realize you're better off putting in a little more work and finding working girls that actually care about their customers. Whether that's through the street, escorts, or through other means.

You realize that the easy bar fuck with an HK girl is so fucking lame and bullshit in terms of service, and that you would rather save your money and put it to more effective uses. Probably the main thing you should take away from all of this.[/QUOTE]True. So True.

I have never done a BG in ANY club or will I for these reasons. NOBODY gives a crap if you have a good time or not OR if you come back.

Doing your own deals out on the street or with escorts and freelancers is where its at. F HK and everything about those pricks.

[QUOTE=HawaiianIce;2361004]Thanks for all the quick responses. You guys are great.

Maybe my first post was a little clunky. My main point is that I am not a big fan of just handing over money and then getting FS or a BBBJ. It's nothing moral or anything like that. I just like the thrill of the hunt and the surprise. Not knowing exactly what is going to happen. Maybe that makes me weird or something. I like foreplay and teasing. My favorite thing to do here in the states is go to a strip club and hope that maybe something extra could happen during a lap dance. I've received FS and BBBJ a several times and a HJ lots of times. But most of the time I don't. But it feels like a won the lottery when she asks if I want anything extra (for a fee of course). It's like randomly walking into an Asian massage parlor. Not knowing if they offer extras. And then after the massage she asks, "is there anything else you want?" It's like hitting a home run.

So I've always heard Tijuana was famous for its strip clubs, so I thought it would be the capital of lap dances with high mileage. That was probably stupid of me to assume in a city that has legal prostitution. So it is not about the BBBJ itself, but the chase and surprise of it all. So I got excited when I heard you can buy a lady drinks and make out and fondle all day and then move to lap dances and what I assumed could be likely high mileage. Maybe Tijuana isn't the city for me. I'm not sure. But If anybody knows of a strip club that doesn't have a hotel attached and gets most of their money from lap dances, I would be most appreciative. Or is this possible at all in the Hong Kong lap dance areas? Thanks in advance for any advice.[/QUOTE]I'm like you, for two years I searched for a good lap dance place in Tijuana because the sex is expensive, since I go every week, and I had a girlfriend at the time. Could not find a good lap dance place. Had one good girl who would stick tits in my face in gold palace. But the set up is bad everyone watches. Playboy has. Quiet upstairs for two girl drinks but they may or may not dance. Chicago has private room for like 20 for maybe six minutes. The dance may or may not be as good as a lap dance in the states. Hong Kong, ten bucks with VIP card, one per day otherwise 20. If you ask the girl for a lap dance it's probably going to be terrible compared to USA lap dance. If it's her idea she may not want sex that day and it will possible be as good as USA lap dance. Tropical has room you get beers and girl for like 25 minutes for like 50. But she may be a no touch or barely touch dud. A lot girls will dance with you at all clubs for the drink. Problem is if you start kissing her or licking her breasts you will hear about it from bar tenders, waiters, and other girls, even days later. I always do. A lot girls see a girl into a guy, and hate it, cause they are working for money. Some girls literally enjoy fooling around with men. But basically, to do any lap dance, the girl needs to be kissing you and sticking her nipples in your face during the first drink. Otherwise either the dance will be terrible or the sex likely terrible.

[QUOTE=Klaflare;2361242]All of these complaints about 30 minutes actually being -5 minutes is this true if you book for an hour? Do they short you on time for an hour?[/QUOTE]It is not usual to do hour sessions with bar girls. But if you do, I'd assume that you would get your full time since you have explicitly negotiated for an hour. If you don't have your own room, you'll need to pay extra at the desk for an hour.

And I'll say again, it is not usual for girls to short you on time even if you do a 30 minute session.

Only certain street girls standing in the alley near HK will visit the HK hotel private room via the alley. Alley 20 min rate is $6. Knock at 12 minutes. Expect to pay more from WG visiting HK hotel with greatly diminished service.

HK is not hurting for business.

[QUOTE=Artisttyp;2361295]True. So True.

I have never done a BG in ANY club or will I for these reasons. NOBODY gives a crap if you have a good time or not OR if you come back.

Doing your own deals out on the street or with escorts and freelancers is where its at. F HK and everything about those pricks.[/QUOTE]