German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2155197]You mean, after Manhaittan and Palace management learned that it was just a Kindle with no camera, they still insisted on prohibiting you from using your Kindle? WTF!

Manhattan and Palace are anti-literature?[/QUOTE]In Manhattan I put the question to reception and she said it was unreasonable to expect management to spot a Kindle from another type of device. At Palace I was alone on a sofa in the backroom (reading room) when a woman came over to check. She let me go on but not without grumbling that reading lights had been fitted to make reading paper books possible. I assumed this meant they didn't like having to make allowances for Kindles.

Nowadays where my Kindle is not welcome I don't feel welcome either.

[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2155188]Just catching up -- yes, Artemis can be fun outdoors when the weather's nice. It's funny to see the S-bahn pass behind it regularly!

I'd say World is pretty damn great too for outdoors. The casting of late has not been so good though.

I do like Oase the best, but it's very familiar now, so not so thrilling, like a wife that I still love, but has few surprises for me.

About GT, can anyone describe the rules on mobile devices? I don't like phones in clubs, but I do like reading on a kindle.

And another unrelated question -- what's the outdoors situation at Globe in Zurich? Thanks![/QUOTE]Yes, I love Artemis s Bahn pass by, be sure to flash your boner penis to the s Bahn passengers, it is custom in Germany to do.

In Globe Zurich, there is roof terrace which you access via elevator. That is only outdoor. I kind of like it when nobody is around. It is rather small place like 20 ms not even.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2155192]If I am going to show empathy for WGs not having a wage increase in the last fifteen years, I might as well extend that empathy to the German pensioner [/QUOTE]Yeah man. Not a bad idea. Understand that from a WG's perspective, 50 euro doesn't by what it used to and then buy that German pensioner a beer because his retirement isn't worth what it could of been. Both have a little right to be a bit grumpy.

[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2155188]Just catching up -- yes, Artemis can be fun outdoors when the weather's nice. It's funny to see the S-bahn pass behind it regularly!

I'd say World is pretty damn great too for outdoors. The casting of late has not been so good though.

I do like Oase the best, but it's very familiar now, so not so thrilling, like a wife that I still love, but has few surprises for me.

About GT, can anyone describe the rules on mobile devices? I don't like phones in clubs, but I do like reading on a kindle.

And another unrelated question -- what's the outdoors situation at Globe in Zurich? Thanks![/QUOTE]As long you don't t take photo of girls without agreement, you can use your phone everywhere at GT, LR, Oase, Aca Velbert. When you spend whole day in a club, world and job don't stop waiting you finished your fuckings.

At Globe, outdoor is on roof terrace, not the best for sex, compare to Villa Vertigo garden with many real beds. I also like wood chalets at Sharks. Most beautiful gardens are World for the trees, Villa Vertigo, and Wellcum for wonderful Carinthian mountains all around, they are even prettier than girls.

Poeple who meets me know that how I like comparisons. I completed my 3 days FKK tour yesterday and here is my opinions. This will also be a story of my visit because I believe these can't be told in a single club thread.

Thursday. 15 March.

My first visit was to GT-Bruggen. I was in between Samya and GT. Also new club visits was attracting me. In means of food I was [URL]disappointed.Com[/URL]pared to my last visits food was poor. Lineup was less in number but was good in means of quality. BBBJ in kino is possible. I saw a guy in Jacuzzi with a girl. I invited a few girls to Jacuzzi but they didn't come but if offer them an hour including Jacuzzi time it would be possible. DFK and BBBJ was included in every session. At about 22:00 I made a mistake and decided to visit Ying Yang and LR. As you can guess it was very excited to be there in Holland. I just gone there for the word of Top Facilities. What I saw there that is different from GT was a rude bodyguard. There is nothing superior in means of facility in Ying Yang compared to GT. I immediately left the place because there was about 4-5 customers and 10 girls on a Thursday night. I headed to LR. LR after GT choice makes sense because of midnight Pizza and a different line up. Only superiority of LT over GT is they have a younge and more fit line up. It was worse than my previous visit. With this situation even with discount ticket it is not a very good idea to visit LR. I didn't see top girls that I saw in my last visit.

Friday. 16 March.

I was in Oase. I was very indecisive does it worth 500 kms go and return. When I enter I was happy because place was full of nice girls. I believe lineup is a little bit weaker w. Are. T my previous visits. And girls was very unhappy and bored. Girls to guy ratio was 5 to 1 at least. Food was under acceptable level. Sex in kino not possible. BBBJ is possible in room. Why noone here told me all top girls went to World. It was 50 km way less than Oase from Dusseldorf and I had a free ticket stayed from my last visit with Police Raid. I drived 3 hours in heavy Friday traffic with snowy weather and drive back to DUS.

Saturday 17 March.

Samya. I again think that line up was weaker compared to my last visit but no of takeable girls was more. If you have to choose one better to prefer GT but Samya isn't a bad choice. Party atmosphere was good. I think more fun than Oase and I was in the mood of let me go with this girl no no this one but unfortunately I didn't have enough sperm. Levitra only handles erection problem it doesn't make you cumm and not cumming makes girl very unhappy.

If I would decide now I would make Thursday GT. Friday Samya and Saturday World.

Things that I will never understand.

1) Why the receptionist don't want to give you small size bathrobe? I know you think that I am obsessed with this but I just don't want to tour around like a clown with very big bahrobes.

2) Why they don't serve still water in Oase?

3) Why all rental cars with gasoline? (I had to pay 80 euro gasoline cost with Hyundai SUV which consumes 8. 6 LT per 100 km.).

4) Why they don't let you sleep in German hotels with the noise of housekeeping? This every time happens to me. You come from FKK at 6 am and housekeeping start workingat 07:30 in your floor with a circus happyness. They shout each other knock the doors happily. (this happened 3 times in 3 different hotels)

[QUOTE=Iceberg27;2155362]There is nothing superior in means of facility in Ying Yang compared to GT.

I was in Oase. Why noone here told me all top girls went to World.

If I would decide now I would make Thursday GT. Friday Samya and Saturday World.

1) Why the receptionist don't want to give you small size bathrobe? I know you think that I am obsessed with this but I just don't want to tour around like a clown with very big bahrobes.

2) Why they don't serve still water in Oase?[/QUOTE]Oase / World:

1. Can anyone else confirm this assessment that many top girls left Oase and went to World?

2. Bartenders will give you still water at Oase.

3. I don't think they have small robes at Oase.

YinYang:

I think if you did not find that YinYang had better facilities than GT then you did not see the entire club. The wellness room has a new pool and a wet sauna in addition to the dry sauna. There is also an outdoor pool and a relax room upstairs. Locker rooms are not so small where you have to touch another man's naked butt. The rooms have showers in them.

[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2155188]Just catching up -- yes, Artemis can be fun outdoors when the weather's nice. It's funny to see the S-bahn pass behind it regularly!

I'd say World is pretty damn great too for outdoors. The casting of late has not been so good though.

I do like Oase the best, but it's very familiar now, so not so thrilling, like a wife that I still love, but has few surprises for me.

About GT, can anyone describe the rules on mobile devices? I don't like phones in clubs, but I do like reading on a kindle.

And another unrelated question -- what's the outdoors situation at Globe in Zurich? Thanks![/QUOTE]No problems with electronics at GT. I've even taken my laptop out and played a video game in the garden, nerd.

Globe has a small outdoor area upstairs but I didn't see it being used my many people.

I am cheering for World to get better casting as it was my favorite outdoor scene in 2012.

Iceberg. Thanks for the views. It would be interesting if World were to see a revival. As for lack of sperm, you are not the only one, after about 14 sessions in 2. 5 days I have had to take a day off. My last girl couldn't understand that I had run out of bodily fluids: it got a bit embarrassing.

[QUOTE=Akibono;2155202]It is mentally very difficult for women to work at the clubs. They know they have an expiration date and a lifestyle they cannot afford. They are always looking for a possible spouse. The most likely explanation is the girl likes you. She wants to be more than a pretty face that performs like a servant. Chances are many have been used and given false promises. So, they are always looking but on the defensive. Hence the love / hate behaviour. One of the reasons why we pay is for variety and the lack of commitments. These are incompatible with the goals of the women.[/QUOTE]There is something in what you say. Clearly no young girl is consciously going to be looking at me as an option, but subconsciously maybe some are wanting a man to be nice to them, and are a bit thrown when an old customer like me treats them well and cuts them some slack in sessions.

Or maybe they just see an earning opportunity

Maybe that's why I never hit it off with working girls who are in a happy relationship with a man. I always seem to gel with girls whose father has died or run out of their lives. All very strange

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2155389]Oase / World:1. Can anyone else confirm this assessment that many top girls left Oase and went to World?[/QUOTE]Maybe Iceberg could add some info? How do Iceberg define a top girl? And they all went to World leaving only average girls at Oase? How many? Which top girls left? A few names would be helpful.

There is nothing about this on local forums, so no offense to Iceberg, but until further info is given this seems to be something to be taken with a grain of salt.

There are always some movements between clubs. Nothing new. Local forum reports that the March LU at World is improving somewhat from February, but nothing impressive so far (winter at World is always unimpressive). From the LU lists there are three from Oase that are trying out World in March:

- Alessia. I don't know her. Is she a top girl?
- Nicole. I am not sure which Nicole this is. Years ago there used to be one Nicole with good looks and average service at Oase. I cannot confirm if same girl.
- Thessa, Jamaica. This is the only girl I know. GND looks with solid performance. I would gladly repeat, but she is/was not one of my regulars at Oase.

That's all I have so far. I would be happy to learn more about this.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2155389]Oase / World:

1. Can anyone else confirm this assessment that many top girls left Oase and went to World?

2. Bartenders will give you still water at Oase.

3. I don't think they have small robes at Oase.

YinYang:

I think if you did not find that YinYang had better facilities than GT then you did not see the entire club. The wellness room has a new pool and a wet sauna in addition to the dry sauna. There is also an outdoor pool and a relax room upstairs. Locker rooms are not so small where you have to touch another man's naked butt. The rooms have showers in them.[/QUOTE]Escape Artist,

I very well know because every time I forgot and asked since 3 years, Oase don't have still water. They have only medium and classic water with gas. It is not very important, I like the one with gas but I am just curious why. They have it in the other clubs and you can find it every restaurant in Germany.

For bathrobes last time these guys make me crazy and I have to go and come back from stairs because they gave me three times bigger bathrobes. This time when they gave me 3 XL I asked him to give me XL and he said this is the smallest they have. I go to lockers room and come back just 5 minutes later and there was another guy and asked him to give me an XL and he just gave. I don't want to misunderstand or over interpret simple things but isn't it really weird?

For Ying Yang yes you are right I only spend 10 minutes in club because it was about 11 pm and I didn't want to spend my valuable time in such a dead place but I purposedly go to the wellness area and I think it is smaller than GT wellness area. My only regret is not to try a netherlands girl. If there is one there.

[QUOTE=Optimist;2155457]Iceberg. Thanks for the views. It would be interesting if World were to see a revival. As for lack of sperm, you are not the only one, after about 14 sessions in 2. 5 days I have had to take a day off. My last girl couldn't understand that I had run out of bodily fluids: it got a bit embarrassing.[/QUOTE]Optimist it is my pleasure. I wish to live in Germany so I could visit once a week and it will be more enjoyable than 3 visits in 3 days.

[QUOTE=Shark16;2155488]Maybe Iceberg could add some info? How do Iceberg define a top girl? And they all went to World leaving only average girls at Oase? How many? Which top girls left? A few names would be helpful.

There is nothing about this on local forums, so no offense to Iceberg, but until further info is given this seems to be something to be taken with a grain of salt.

There are always some movements between clubs. Nothing new. Local forum reports that the March LU at World is improving somewhat from February, but nothing impressive so far (winter at World is always unimpressive). From the LU lists there are three from Oase that are trying out World in March:

- Alessia. I don't know her. Is she a top girl?
- Nicole. I am not sure which Nicole this is. Years ago there used to be one Nicole with good looks and average service at Oase. I cannot confirm if same girl.
- Thessa, Jamaica. This is the only girl I know. GND looks with solid performance. I would gladly repeat, but she is/was not one of my regulars at Oase.

That's all I have so far. I would be happy to learn more about this.[/QUOTE]Shark I have been in World just 15 minutes before the police raid and lineup wasnt impressive. I concluded that after reading recent posts in World thread. Experienced mongerers told that so I trust their words and what I saw in Oase proved that to me. (Very few customers on a weekend night. If there is any other specific reason for that please tell me. But of course my opinion is only a prediction. I didn't see with my own eyes.) Another fact that in Oase girls make me head off was less than previous time. Last time I remember I saw some real stunners.

Ask for tab water. They will give you. Best quality water you can get. It's what you're being served at Palace as well.

[QUOTE=Iceberg27;2155525] My only regret is not to try a netherlands girl. If there is one there.[/QUOTE]I only know of one Dutch WG and she works at Acapulco. I forget her name but she is best friends with Jana. If you find blonde, German 168 cm, slim Jana there, she will direct you to her friend.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2155259]Yeah man. Not a bad idea. Understand that from a WG's perspective, 50 euro doesn't by what it used to and then buy that German pensioner a beer because his retirement isn't worth what it could of been. Both have a little right to be a bit grumpy.[/QUOTE]Yah depleted nest egg means less income for retirees. Middle class in Western Europe has also not seen almost much wage growth. I've met working class Germans (baker, DHL driver) in FKK, some even attending quite regularly.

"From 2000 to 2010, after-tax income for people in the middle of the income distribution in Germany increased 1. 4 percent. Not per year. Total. ".

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/23/upshot/how-underpaid-german-workers-helped-cause-europes-debt-crisis.html[/URL]

Average Italians still earn less than they did two decades ago:

[URL]https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-08-13/italy-s-midsummer-dream-shaking-off-sick-man-of-europe-label[/URL]

Just talked to a girl at Wellcum who has been in the business for nearly 20 years. Several years ago the price in the top club in Lugano was 220 euro (or maybe she meant Swizz Franc). Now it is much cheaper. 100 chf I think, which is 85 euro. In Switzerland at Corona in Lugano. Says a lot about Italian spending power even with the main economic hub of Milano 30 min drive away. Most Italians goes to Wellcum (aut) or Marina (slo) now. Maybe not from Milano, but from as far south as Tuscany I have met several here. That's a 5+ hour drive.

1 day left before I make a report in the Austria section.