Medellin Reports

Another tip is to always travel with a backup card, preferably from a second account. It can save your vacation.

[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;2859805]Haven't had your experience, but one tip for foreign travel with any card. Try to make your FIRST transaction a card insert with pin, NOT a 'tap to pay'. The higher security insert with pin will validate the card and you as being there (knowing the pin), thus marking you and the card as in-country. If your first transaction is a tap-to-pay (like buying a coffee before the ATM) then you may get flagged as potential fraud. Since they can only validate the card and not yourself, then a generated security call may not reach or ring you out-of-country (since you 'just' arrived, cell phone company may not be forwarding calls properly yet), and your card will get disabled. Using an ATM (even the one right by the exit) with your PIN will count as a card insert with pin. With this approach even my local credit union ATM card has worked reliably in Colombia and many other countries (including Morocco).[/QUOTE]

Maybe you experienced the impact of recess week. It ends today. Colombian schools and universities have an annual vacation this week. It's basically similar to the European summer school holidays and the North American Spring Break.

[QUOTE=Haxagonus;2859133]Wtf is up with online? I messaged a bunch of girls most don't respond. When they do respond they respond I try to confirm the time or the place they don't respond.

I had two girls tell me send me the money for the taxi and I'm like no I will send you the Uber paid. They either don't respond or charge me 60 k for taxis. I live right next to this girl BTW. I legit went to her spot for another girl and it was 7 k from my spot.

I went to see the only girl that would actually confirm that I could go there and they bait and switch me with another girl. And then they do the usual o sorry she's not here she's doing a domicilio I can show you the only other girl that is here I'm like whatever this better be the hottest girl I've ever seen because I'm not tolerating this garbageass service. Girl is also ugly. That's why they're don't get picked. Hire better girls. So I leave.

Wtf is happening? Can I get a decent girl to show up and or respond? Wtf.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CatBert55;2859737]Don't trust the ATMs at the MDE airport. Twice I've had my Schwab card canceled mid-trip because of attempted fraud after I used the ATM at the airport. Since then I've made the habit of always keeping enough COP with me when I leave Colombia to get me back into town and to a more secure ATM when I return.[/QUOTE]This might not apply to you, who knows. But Schwab says that if you are traveling abroad it is a good idea to set a travel notice. It will lessen the chance of a transaction being declined because of potential fraud. Now this should not apply to withdrawing from an ATM but it might. When I first started coming to Medellin I religiously set the travel notice to avoid any potential problems. It takes a few minutes and who knows how much time it will have saved you if you have a problem while you are out of country.

I'm staying very near the estadio metro stop. Any good short time motel recommendations? Thanks.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2859753]Something very annoying that you learn living here is there isn't much organized customer service. Colombia businesses and government are very good at presenting an image of organized procedures and regulations but the reality is you can ask five employees and officials a question and get five different answers. It's especially bad with the banks. My advice is to seek a second or third opinion until you find an informed and motivated employee. The answer you described sounds to me like an employee who said what she thought would get you to go away quickly. I'm sorry this has been such a pain in the neck but I'm confident you will be able to get it resolved.[/QUOTE]Yep, I had an issue with Claro regarding Internet service and what I was being charged monthly.

The first person I talked with said they could not lower what I was paying for Internet service and this was after I had posed as a new customer and the rate quoted was lower.

I was told they couldn't lower the price to match what new customers were paying.

So I demanded to speak with her boss and presented my case, and her boss immediately lowered the price to match what new customers were paying.

What you have brought up is correct, there's no consistency to things at many places of business, and I think especially for foreigners, they just want to blow you off.

When I called for the employees boss, she was not a happy camper about this, especially when her boss lowered the price.

And upon leaving and getting it in writing as to what was promised, I told the Supervisor that her employee who tried to blow me off that she was an excellent business woman trying to increase company profits.

[QUOTE=MoonShot;2859992] Now it is possible that you can sneak girls in but I don't like to play that game.[/QUOTE]Exactly. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Foreigners won't have a leg to stand on in these situations.

Yea basically any profile you find only with a decent looking girl is probably fake. They are just trying to lure you in so that then they can give you all the girls that are actually available.

They're using photos of girls who used to to work in their agency years ago and probably moved on to tithes things but because she looks good and generates a lot of leads they just use her pictures as the poster girl for the agency and when you actually hit them up one of the girls pretends to be the poster girl and right when they give you the address to call the Uber and the Uber is on it's way they say oh by the way we played you and this is actually the girl that's showing up.

If they ask for 350 mil and for the taxi money in advanced you already know the deal. I tell them oh I don't have a way to send you money for taxis but I can get you Uber and there's like ok then you're paying 410 k in total. I'm like I'm not dumb I live right next you to and the taxi there. And back should be max 20 k.

In the end, Medellin online is just filled mostly with a bunch of scammers. Why? Because there's gringo money now and all the good looking girls said f you to the agencies and the agencies are only left with ugly girls so they have to scam in order to even get close to making what they used to make with actually decent looking girls.

Oh and the girls don’t know about this either. It’s management doing this. I went one time and it was at a spa. they tried the switxheroo when i got there and i was like im
not hsving it and showed the girl the profile and she was like confused because it linked to her number. she called management and they were doing a "domiciilio". yea right that girl probably doesnt exist.

[QUOTE=Vern2020;2860058]I'm staying very near the estadio metro stop. Any good short time motel recommendations? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Hotel Suites 44 is a no frills love motel. Lov Suites should be more upscale.

[QUOTE=Haxagonus;2860078]Yea basically any profile you find only with a decent looking girl is probably fake. They are just trying to lure you in so that then they can give you all the girls that are actually available.

They're using photos of girls who used to to work in their agency years ago and probably moved on to tithes things but because she looks good and generates a lot of leads they just use her pictures as the poster girl for the agency and when you actually hit them up one of the girls pretends to be the poster girl and right when they give you the address to call the Uber and the Uber is on it's way they say oh by the way we played you and this is actually the girl that's showing up.

If they ask for 350 mil and for the taxi money in advanced you already know the deal. I tell them oh I don't have a way to send you money for taxis but I can get you Uber and there's like ok then you're paying 410 k in total. I'm like I'm not dumb I live right next you to and the taxi there. And back should be max 20 k.

In the end, Medellin online is just filled mostly with a bunch of scammers. Why? Because there's gringo money now and all the good looking girls said f you to the agencies and the agencies are only left with ugly girls so they have to scam in order to even get close to making what they used to make with actually decent looking girls..[/QUOTE]I guess you are referring to online prepagos or girls advertising on websites such as mileroticos. What you are saying may be true to some extent. My experience has been with online girls on Facebook. On Facebook at least, the girls tend to look like their pictures. They come to you and you pay for the taxi when they arrive. You negotiate the price with the girls and meet the girls that agree to the price that you want to pay and agree to the sexual activities that you want for the time you want. After six trips, it has been worked out fine for me.

[QUOTE=Carrib;2859846]Airport BOG.

USD exchange rates.

4200 to buy.

4000 to sell.

Hooters.

The had at least 3 games on plus the chicas were nice eye candy.[/QUOTE]Nice try buddy. These are current rates as of Friday 10/13. Most money exchange places are offering 3800 to 3900 per dollar while the atms are giving out between 4200 to 4300 per dollar. That's a difference of between 30 mil to 40 mil (about 10%) for each $100 that is exchanged / withdrawn. Adds up fast if one is exchanging $500 usd or more.

Not sure about you, but if I went to Colombia with $5,000 usd I wouldn't want to give away $500 of it to a money exchange kiosk.

Attached is the current rates of money exchange kiosks in various cities in Colombia and at different money exchanges.

Only in Cucuta does the rate apear to be somewhat close to the real exchange rate and none of you are flying in thru Cucuta.

Gabacho.

The Colombian slang term for this practice is "el cambiazo. " Loosely translated it means "bait and switch. "

[QUOTE=Haxagonus;2860078]Yea basically any profile you find only with a decent looking girl is probably fake. They are just trying to lure you in so that then they can give you all the girls that are actually available.

They're using photos of girls who used to to work in their agency years ago and probably moved on to tithes things but because she looks good and generates a lot of leads they just use her pictures as the poster girl for the agency and when you actually hit them up one of the girls pretends to be the poster girl and right when they give you the address to call the Uber and the Uber is on it's way they say oh by the way we played you and this is actually the girl that's showing up.

If they ask for 350 mil and for the taxi money in advanced you already know the deal. I tell them oh I don't have a way to send you money for taxis but I can get you Uber and there's like ok then you're paying 410 k in total. I'm like I'm not dumb I live right next you to and the taxi there. And back should be max 20 k.

In the end, Medellin online is just filled mostly with a bunch of scammers. Why? Because there's gringo money now and all the good looking girls said f you to the agencies and the agencies are only left with ugly girls so they have to scam in order to even get close to making what they used to make with actually decent looking girls.[/QUOTE]

Debit and credit card issuers use security algorithms and individual user history to prevent fraud. Deviations from the typical usage pattern can trigger a fraud alert and flag a users account to be blocked. Your recommendation is a good way to prevent it. Guys who infrequently use their cards outside their home countries should notify their card issuers a week or so in advance to avoid a bad surprise.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2860043]This might not apply to you, who knows. But Schwab says that if you are traveling abroad it is a good idea to set a travel notice. It will lessen the chance of a transaction being declined because of potential fraud. Now this should not apply to withdrawing from an ATM but it might. When I first started coming to Medellin I religiously set the travel notice to avoid any potential problems. It takes a few minutes and who knows how much time it will have saved you if you have a problem while you are out of country.[/QUOTE]

This is my first time going Halloween time in Medellin. Does anybody knows any Halloween parties event to go to? I'd definitely going to try one of the nights in the Mansion. I've read about some kind of motorcycle Halloween event that will be happening.

Does anybody have info or link on that event?

Hi guys, what other pills is there besides sedenefil? I take it and after one round it goes down. I'm looking for something that keeps it hard for longer and more rounds.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2860043]This might not apply to you, who knows. But Schwab says that if you are traveling abroad it is a good idea to set a travel notice. It will lessen the chance of a transaction being declined because of potential fraud. Now this should not apply to withdrawing from an ATM but it might. When I first started coming to Medellin I religiously set the travel notice to avoid any potential problems. It takes a few minutes and who knows how much time it will have saved you if you have a problem while you are out of country.[/QUOTE]I've used my Schwab card all over the world for twenty years and have never put in a travel alert, and have never had the card declined. YEMV.

I've read about penile implants of the sort Larry Flynt made famous after he became paraplegic. As described, it would eliminate the normal refractory period. I guess you have to decide how much you want to countermand Mother Nature. More recently, transexuals who were born as women have begun using them as part of their transition to manhood.

[QUOTE=Gandi718;2860268]Hi guys, what other pills is there besides sedenefil? I take it and after one round it goes down. I'm looking for something that keeps it hard for longer and more rounds.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ElSexoChino7;2860267]This is my first time going Halloween time in Medellin. Does anybody knows any Halloween parties event to go to? I'd definitely going to try one of the nights in the Mansion. I've read about some kind of motorcycle Halloween event that will be happening.

Does anybody have info or link on that event?[/QUOTE]Friday 27th at the Mansion's club is their annual crazy Halloween party. Advance ticket purchase recommended. Definitely the place to be. Well at least for me that's where I will be.

[QUOTE=Gandi718;2860268]Hi guys, what other pills is there besides sedenefil? I take it and after one round it goes down. I'm looking for something that keeps it hard for longer and more rounds.[/QUOTE]Taldalafil.

[QUOTE=Gandi718;2860268]Hi guys, what other pills is there besides sedenefil? I take it and after one round it goes down. I'm looking for something that keeps it hard for longer and more rounds.[/QUOTE]Generic Cialis is available-- good prices.

[QUOTE=Gandi718;2860268]Hi guys, what other pills is there besides sedenefil? I take it and after one round it goes down. I'm looking for something that keeps it hard for longer and more rounds.[/QUOTE]Get an IPP procedure, Inflatable Penile Prosthesis. Best decision of my life, I can bang for days if I want to.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2860280]I've read about penile implants of the sort Larry Flynt made famous after he became paraplegic. As described, it would eliminate the normal refractory period. I guess you have to decide how much you want to countermand Mother Nature. More recently, transexuals who were born as women have begun using them as part of their transition to manhood.[/QUOTE]I have one, greatest invention since the wheel, maybe better.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2860278]I've used my Schwab card all over the world for twenty years and have never put in a travel alert, and have never had the card declined. YEMV.[/QUOTE]Until it does. Make sure you have a backup plan because one day it is going to happen. I have two Schwab cards and they have been declined / blocked multiple times.

As I've spent the first half of my month long stay here in Poblado I must say that while my regulars have been good the newbie scene is a little slower than in August. Been stopping into the Mansion and it's been slower than expected. Plenty of the regular girls but not a lot of new blood. Did meet one a couple of weeks ago that's been a delight. I like the ones who come to the city for the first time, hear about the Mansion and want to make a little money. They seem more a little more non-pro to start with and enjoy just hanging out, eating and overnighting.

Had my fair share of regular chica drama. You know, car accidents, sick nephews, sick kids and eviction notices. All of course with the solution of pesos to fix everything. But I must say the level and frequency of drama is much less than I've grown accustomed to having lived in Haiti for a number of years. Mind you the Haitian and Dominican men and women are masters at conjuring up some reason they need help. I had a maid there in one of my homes who every year at Christmas we mourned and buried her grandmother. Mind you, she was a live in maid for $75 a month, so you just sort of roll with it and keep a straight face. But here in Colombia I do appreciate that regular girls like to spend time with you but are less drama needy. Not say they don't have some, but it's less for me.

If you're looking for a good inexpensive massage, I've tried the Garage a couple of times in the Rio Center. One hour is 100 K, 70 K special on Saturday. First time the girl was straight legit massage, which is what I was looking for. Second time, the girls doing a good job but I notice kept removing my towel and was pretty open about a full body experience. Laying face down for the back massage she suddenly jumps up on top of me and starts massaging me with her bare legs. Now it's taking me a minute to realize some how during the massage she got her pants off. Reminded me of a soapy experience in Bangkok. She did a good job and then asked if I wanted "extras" to which she asked for 100 K stimulation and 250 K for oral. As you can imagine I passed. Nonetheless, for 70 K it's a good hour massage.

I spend my days walking and discovering new places. Thanks to one fellow on here I went to visit a Japanese Ice Cream parlor on Calle 10. With the secret phrase and the knowledge that you can open the ice cream cooler door you can enter one of the most interesting Speakeasy's I've been to in awhile. Great atmosphere, drinks and a few local girls.

See ya all at the Mansion Halloween Party.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2860200]Nice try buddy. These are current rates as of Friday 10/13. Most money exchange places are offering 3800 to 3900 per dollar while the atms are giving out between 4200 to 4300 per dollar. That's a difference of between 30 mil to 40 mil (about 10%) for each $100 that is exchanged / withdrawn. Adds up fast if one is exchanging $500 usd or more.

Not sure about you, but if I went to Colombia with $5,000 usd I wouldn't want to give away $500 of it to a money exchange kiosk.

Attached is the current rates of money exchange kiosks in various cities in Colombia and at different money exchanges.

Only in Cucuta does the rate apear to be somewhat close to the real exchange rate and none of you are flying in thru Cucuta.

Gabacho.[/QUOTE]I actually got 154 USD for 650 K Pesos in BOG.

I have been to Colombia a few times. Been to Cartagena once and Medellin several. For those of you considering Cartagena, is say stay away. It really sucks in terms of a cool vacation spot. The weather is hot. Its got a seedy feel to it, especially by the clock tower. While I enjoy the new area hotels, and the beauty of old town, I was very much under heat alert as it is 100% humidity and felt like 120. I was dripping sweat from the moment I would step out in the day.

So that's why I recommend, Medellin! What a beautiful country with the beautiful looking women, the beautiful scenery of being in a bowl like country with green jungle trees between high rises. I recommend when staying, book a hotel on Airbnb. You can actually get better rates by connecting with those AIRBNB host on google via their website. Saves you about 40%. I like to stay in Poblado where the new nicer high rises are, and its safe and clean. Below I will try to give a quick guide for the many things I have experienced in MDE.

1. I have never stayed overnight in Parque Lleras. However this is where most people tend to go at night for fun. While its a cool spot to walk around, drink, have fun, I found more fun outside.

2. When I went to Medellin, I was introduced to this big ass Colombian dude who I'm sure some on this forum might know. I think his name was Julian or something like that. Anyways he's very well connected with Americans, he has contacts with chicks, and drugs. He invited me to a few mansion pool parties with the baddest looking chicks. If you're looking for him, all you got to do is ask some regular Americans who might look like theyre part of the game. I lost all my WhatsApp contacts last year on accident.

3. Meeting chicks: In MDE, you can meet chicks anywhere. My recommendation. Stay off Tinder. I heard about the Asian American kid out of California who was drugged and killed last year. People need to be extremely mindful. The best trick to finding cool girls is first getting connected. If you have a friend who visits often, ask him to connect you with friends via facebook. FB is the best spot to meeting cool chicks, having a great time with good chicks, and getting best bang for your buck. ID say no more than $100 for a full 24 hours.

4. Safety: I will share with you what someone shared with me. "In Colombia, people are people are very poor. Someone can hire someone to kill you for $100". So be mindful in Co. No one is out to kill you if you don't do anything wrong. But mess with the wrong people, and there can be trouble found.

5. Party favors: Tussi is the big thing out here. Its expensive. Cocaine is considered the poor mans drug. You can ask a taxi drive to get you some and drop it off. Ill be honest. When I went I was a big stoner. I needed weed after my flight. My taxi driver took me into the hood of Medellin. I mean about 15 minutes away from Poblado into a really dangerous looking area. Right when I got there, I recall a race and chase of guys on motorcycles and cops. My cab driver had me hide and put my head down for a few minutes. We looped around and came back, drug dealer was standing nearby and my driver went in to pickup my goods.

6. Massage places: I'm not a fan. I don't personally find a girl I can have fun and form a connection with then 1 hour of fun.

7. Strip clubs: I am a big fan of La Isla. The girls are beautiful. Imagine Hong Kong in Tijuana, without as many dudes, and more women. Prices are not expensive at all.

8. Other places ot checkout: I highly recommend everyone checkout the bars and restaurants in Laureles. If there is a soccer match, definitely go! Take the trolley ride up. You can go to Comuna 13. You can go to Guatape. MDE has cool places to checkout. There is a sunset spot up the mountain that most people go at night.

I will try to give back more to this forum and others. I have only just got my account. Expect more in the coming weeks. I am asking if people can help guide me for my future Thailand trip please!

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;2860480]Until it does. Make sure you have a backup plan because one day it is going to happen. I have two Schwab cards and they have been declined / blocked multiple times.[/QUOTE]Yes, I always travel with at least three ATM cards (E-Trade and PayPal) and at least two FOREX fee-free credit cards. I never use the debit cards for purchases, or very very rarely; that might be why I've not had problems.

[QUOTE=Carrib;2860505]I actually got 154 USD for 650 K Pesos in BOG.[/QUOTE]So your talking about going backwards from pesos into dollars??

Obviously you can't do that at an ATM, your best bet would be to save those COPs for a future trip, but if you had excess pesos and wanted dollars then you would have to use an exchange place. That being said that's not a bad rate for going in reverse. I'm sure their rate for going from dollars into pesos is lower and that is when a Davivienda ATM and a cap one or schwab card will come in handy.

[QUOTE=ElSexoChino7;2860267]This is my first time going Halloween time in Medellin. Does anybody knows any Halloween parties event to go to? I'd definitely going to try one of the nights in the Mansion. I've read about some kind of motorcycle Halloween event that will be happening.

Does anybody have info or link on that event?[/QUOTE]Just go to any of the clubs in lleras. Halloween has gotten much much bigger in the past decade. Before it was soo hard for colombians to source costumes. Now these bitches go crazy!

It really is a great place for Halloween.

[QUOTE=BlueChange;2860538]Just go to any of the clubs in lleras. Halloween has gotten much much bigger in the past decade. Before it was soo hard for colombians to source costumes. Now these bitches go crazy!

It really is a great place for Halloween.[/QUOTE]I Second Halloween in Medellin. Its a party with so many people walking around in Parque Lleras trying to have fun. I further recommend you try to find the house pool parties.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2860200]Nice try buddy. These are current rates as of Friday 10/13. Most money exchange places are offering 3800 to 3900 per dollar while the atms are giving out between 4200 to 4300 per dollar. That's a difference of between 30 mil to 40 mil (about 10%) for each $100 that is exchanged / withdrawn. Adds up fast if one is exchanging $500 usd or more.

Not sure about you, but if I went to Colombia with $5,000 usd I wouldn't want to give away $500 of it to a money exchange kiosk.

Attached is the current rates of money exchange kiosks in various cities in Colombia and at different money exchanges.

Only in Cucuta does the rate apear to be somewhat close to the real exchange rate and none of you are flying in thru Cucuta..[/QUOTE]For about 3 years now, at the Bogota airport, there has almost always been at least 1 currency exchange place giving very close to what you can get from the ATM (by declining the local conversion). If your bank charges a transaction fee and, or a currency exchange fee, the rate is better than the ATM.

Generally speaking, exchanging currency at the airport is a bad idea. The rates are always terrible. On the same day, in the Bogota airport I was offered 3300,3700, 3850 and 4200 when the rate was 4300.

Seeking Girl wants me to fly her from Australia to Medellin, then to Europe to party with her friends then back to Australia, also wants me to pay for her hotels a total of $6000. I declined she gets upset and calls me broke LOL, she was super friendly before hand.

Hey Guys,

I know this is not the thread to discuss Medellin hotels but the Medellin Hotel thread is dead. There have been only like 8 posts in 1 month and lots of crickets in between posts. Nonetheless, was wondering if anyone could recommend hotels with following things:

1) Girl friendly- allow different girls daily at no charge. I am okay with paying for the 2nd girl in the same day as I only do 1 per day.

2) Relatively near Parque Lleras area, not to exceed about 0.5 km or like 10 minute walk max from there.

3) Nice, 4 star rated . Good size rooms.

4) Cost / Budget- Up to about 120 us dollars per night.

I like the Hotel DuParc but rates really shot up to almost 160 per night. I have stayed at the Mansion but found it noisy in the morning, older, and I have plenty of chicas lined up.

I checked the Hotel Dix and its sold out for my dates (week after Thanksgiving).

Thanks,

SB.

My weekend warrior friends have pretty much settled on the the Haven.

[QUOTE=StudBucket;2860581]Hey Guys,

I know this is not the thread to discuss Medellin hotels but the Medellin Hotel thread is dead. There have been only like 8 posts in 1 month and lots of crickets in between posts. Nonetheless, was wondering if anyone could recommend hotels with following things:

1) Girl friendly- allow different girls daily at no charge. I am okay with paying for the 2nd girl in the same day as I only do 1 per day.

2) Relatively near Parque Lleras area, not to exceed about. 5 km.

3) Nice, 4 star at least. Good size rooms.

4) Cost / Budget- Up to about 120 us dollars per night.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Huacho;2860278]I've used my Schwab card all over the world for twenty years and have never put in a travel alert, and have never had the card declined. YEMV.[/QUOTE]Yes, brother. Schwab has been remarkable consistent. Over the many years I have had an account with them a decline has never happened. But it is important to always have a plan be. Sometimes a particular ATM will not take the card or rejects it. Sometimes I have to place my cart into the ATM more than once before it takes it. On my last trip a transaction was declined. I was moving around in the USA and I always have problems with my financial institutions (bunch of mother fuckers if you ask me). It took a little time on the phone to figure everything out. My movements had tripped the AI fraud detector even though I had filed my travel notices. After I got off the phone with them, everything has been working fine. Some people take a really negative view of everything.

Now it should be noted that I have had ATMs snatch my card twice. Called Schawb. They had my card to me in two days on their dime. But the first time I had to borrow money from my friends I was with and many of them are the cheapest of the cheep mother fuckers. I like the ones that are generous like I am. But I learned my lesson and keep cash as a back up. Second time it did not phase me at all as now I keep two banks. Banks fucking with my money is the reason I prefer crypto.

Exchange rates are a fact of life for the international traveler. I remember when I first started posting here people were clowning on me because I exchanged money at the airport. Enough to get me my girl waiting to give pussy via a taxi ride. Talk about a bunch of cheep mother fuckers. [B]Damn![/B] My advice is just to make sure you are not being a penny wise and a pound foolish. Calculate how much you are giving up for each transaction. Unless you are moving serious money (sometimes I do and sometimes I don't) it really should not matter to a person who has paid for their passport, a plane ticket, hotel room and lodging for their trip. Hit the gym so you can build the guns that allow you to carry your stack and spend it. Money means nothing in life. Other than what it can get you to improve your life.

First time to Medellin and first time poster. I'm 40 years old from California and my Spanish is not so great. I'm very interested in connecting with some mongers and making some friends as I'll be in Colombia the next 3 to 6 months. I'm a bit nervous due to the reports of people being drugged. First round is on me!

[QUOTE=Gandi718;2860268]Hi guys, what other pills is there besides sedenefil? I take it and after one round it goes down. I'm looking for something that keeps it hard for longer and more rounds.[/QUOTE]Cialis works great too, generic easily available locally. But there is also in addition Privigil Dapoxetine (available in USA by prescription but not in Colombia, or import it from India online) which is to prevent premature ejaculation. Take some Dapoxetine and either Viagra or Cialis and you can go all night. Mfff has never been more fun. No idea why Colombia doesn't have it.

[QUOTE=MikeVee;2860700]First time to Medellin and first time poster. I'm 40 years old from California and my Spanish is not so great. I'm very interested in connecting with some mongers and making some friends as I'll be in Colombia the next 3 to 6 months. I'm a bit nervous due to the reports of people being drugged. First round is on me![/QUOTE]I definitely recommend hanging some evenings at the Mansion's (Casa Blanca in the forums here) attached bar (nickname La Cueva). It's $50 k COP ($11-12 USD) to enter as a non-guest. The girls come and go in waves, but all have their ID checked and recorded. Meaning it is a very safe environment to meet girls, exchange WhatsApp numbers, and even take one back. It's located here: [URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/CCb6BWogTB37N1tc8.[/URL] The bar is the door to the left of the main entrance with the stairs (it's a converted garage). The bar is also having their famous annual Halloween party on Friday the 27th, you will need a ticket in advance, which you can get at the club. For that it will be standing room only with girls in all kinds of crazy outfits, prepare yourself to collect dozens of numbers.

Also, if you like beer, I recommend Foxey Pub in the Manila area of Poblado. This pub has 6 different breweries under one roof; each brewery basically runs their own little bar. Great way to try amazing local beers. It's also a really nice relatively safe area to chill and walk around in.

[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;2860715]I definitely recommend hanging some evenings at the Mansion's (Casa Blanca in the forums here) attached bar (nickname La Cueva). It's $50 k COP ($11-12 USD) to enter as a non-guest. The girls come and go in waves, but all have their ID checked and recorded. Meaning it is a very safe environment to meet girls, exchange WhatsApp numbers, and even take one back. It's located here: [URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/CCb6BWogTB37N1tc8.[/URL] The bar is the door to the left of the main entrance with the stairs (it's a converted garage). The bar is also having their famous annual Halloween party on Friday the 27th, you will need a ticket in advance, which you can get at the club. For that it will be standing room only with girls in all kinds of crazy outfits, prepare yourself to collect dozens of numbers.

Also, if you like beer, I recommend Foxey Pub in the Manila area of Poblado. This pub has 6 different breweries under one roof; each brewery basically runs their own little bar. Great way to try amazing local beers. It's also a really nice relatively safe area to chill and walk around in.[/QUOTE]Awesome! Will be at the Mansion Halloween party on the 27th!

Tough time with facebook.

Ok so with the advice of this group I am avoiding tinder (even though that's what I used for Cartagena contacts).

And have been trying to search girls in skimpy outfits located in Medellin. Problem is none of them are accepting my friend request. Anyone have any other tips?

I did try and friend girls who follow or view "gusto" and "la isla".

[QUOTE=StudBucket;2860581]Hey Guys,

I know this is not the thread to discuss Medellin hotels but the Medellin Hotel thread is dead. There have been only like 8 posts in 1 month and lots of crickets in between posts. Nonetheless, was wondering if anyone could recommend hotels with following things:

1) Girl friendly- allow different girls daily at no charge. I am okay with paying for the 2nd girl in the same day as I only do 1 per day.

2) Relatively near Parque Lleras area, not to exceed about 0.5 km or like 10 minute walk max from there.

3) Nice, 4 star rated . Good size rooms.

4) Cost / Budget- Up to about 120 us dollars per night.

I like the Hotel DuParc but rates really shot up to almost 160 per night. I have stayed at the Mansion but found it noisy in the morning, older, and I have plenty of chicas lined up.

I checked the Hotel Dix and its sold out for my dates (week after Thanksgiving).

Thanks,

SB.[/QUOTE]LLeras Green Hotel, I've heard good things about this hotel. This is close to your descriptions. Guest friendly. I never stayed here as I prefer guest friendly Airbnb's with security. I was considering on staying at this hotel last year based from the review of a guy from YouTube, but I decided that I don't want to be too close to Parque LLeras.

[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;2860715]I definitely recommend hanging some evenings at the Mansion's (Casa Blanca in the forums here) attached bar (nickname La Cueva). It's $50 k COP ($11-12 USD) to enter as a non-guest. The girls come and go in waves, but all have their ID checked and recorded. Meaning it is a very safe environment to meet girls, exchange WhatsApp numbers, and even take one back. It's located here: [URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/CCb6BWogTB37N1tc8.[/URL] The bar is the door to the left of the main entrance with the stairs (it's a converted garage). The bar is also having their famous annual Halloween party on Friday the 27th, you will need a ticket in advance, which you can get at the club. For that it will be standing room only with girls in all kinds of crazy outfits, prepare yourself to collect dozens of numbers.
[/QUOTE]I'm excited to check this spot. Are all the girls that comes here are working girls? How's the quality of girls? What's the going rate here?

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2860586]My weekend warrior friends have pretty much settled on the the Haven.[/QUOTE]What, in particular, have your friends liked about the Haven? I had a girl tell me that she liked to go there with clients, so it must be fairly nice.

Any additional information is welcomed before I book my Thanksgiving week trip, thanks!

[QUOTE=MikeVee;2860700]First time to Medellin and first time poster. I'm 40 years old from California and my Spanish is not so great. I'm very interested in connecting with some mongers and making some friends as I'll be in Colombia the next 3 to 6 months. I'm a bit nervous due to the reports of people being drugged. First round is on me![/QUOTE]Hey Mike,

I would buy a subscription so you can private message people and get contact info.

Also, there are a lot of good tips in the reports of distinction to avoid getting drugged, but in general:

- if it's too good to be true, then it's probably a trap.

- that gorgeous woman is not that into you, she's into your bank accounts.

- watch your drink and food at all times.

- don't accept random drinks or drugs.

- don't let the chicas pick the location for the first meet.

- stay at a place with door security. Since you're already here, if you haven't done this, I would just vet the chicas better before bringing them back to your place.

Personally, I also operate on a spare phone and wallet with a card with a small limit or amount. You can even carry a decoy wallet to chuck and run if you're sensing a mugging.

Don't be stupid and you'll be fine!

What does the subscription show up as on the credit card?

[QUOTE=CBuilder;2860814]What does the subscription show up as on the credit card?[/QUOTE]Nothing: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/ISG_Payments.php?[/URL].

You either pay with bitcoin or cash in an envelope. You can buy bitcoin in a myriad of different ways, I bought some with cashapp, they just recommend not using coinbase.

[QUOTE=ElSexoChino7;2860755]LLeras Green Hotel, I've heard good things about this hotel. This is close to your descriptions. Guest friendly. I never stayed here as I prefer guest friendly Airbnb's with security. I was considering on staying at this hotel last year based from the review of a guy from YouTube, but I decided that I don't want to be too close to Parque LLeras.[/QUOTE]So I am actually familiar with this hotel as I asked the people at the front desk to show me 2 rooms there while on a trip. The one thing I can say is that the rooms that I saw did not have a single window so they felt cold and weird. I would not have minded even looking out to another building but to have no windows on a long trip would bother me so I ruled it out. The rooms were just okay, and were of a 3 star type. But it serves as a good backup if one is looking for cheaper rooms near Parque Lleras. The Arte Hotel has better rooms but they have a more industrial/cold feel also but they do have windows which let light in but the view is of a building only.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2860586]My weekend warrior friends have pretty much settled on the the Haven.[/QUOTE]Hi Knowledge, rooms like nice here and I actually asked for a tour in this hotel as well the last trip. The hotel checks all boxes except for the fact that you get very small rooms. The rooms are only 170-200 sf and are all 120 -180 per night us. So you get small room, albeit it modern and nice, for a higher price. Just my take. Medellin is tough on the hotel situation and has gotten worse since the dollar devalued against the peso.

[QUOTE=CBuilder;2860814]What does the subscription show up as on the credit card?[/QUOTE]It shows up as "I'm a huge pervert, I've married a woman I despise, and now I'm looking for hookers in Colombia, LLC".

There’s literally a banner on every page telling you how to get a subscription. If you get stuck, search the whole forum for “bitcoin” to get some hints. Not asking for much here just the bare minimum amount of initiative.

[QUOTE=CBuilder;2860814]What does the subscription show up as on the credit card?[/QUOTE]I think you use credit card to buy bitcoin and use the purchased bitcoin to pay for membership.

I don't know much about hotels in Medellin. Unless they rent by the hour LOL!. I've never entered the Haven so all my information is second hand. I will say that small spaces are not unusual in Medellin. There are businessman hotels a little farther away from Lleras and la 10 but they are going to limit your visitor count.

[QUOTE=StudBucket;2860858]Hi Knowledge, rooms like nice here and I actually asked for a tour in this hotel as well the last trip. The hotel checks all boxes except for the fact that you get very small rooms. The rooms are only 170-200 sf and are all 120 -180 per night us. So you get small room, albeit it modern and nice, for a higher price. Just my take. Medellin is tough on the hotel situation and has gotten worse since the dollar devalued against the peso.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=StudBucket;2860858]Hi Knowledge, rooms like nice here and I actually asked for a tour in this hotel as well the last trip. The hotel checks all boxes except for the fact that you get very small rooms. The rooms are only 170-200 sf and are all 120 -180 per night us. So you get small room, albeit it modern and nice, for a higher price. Just my take. Medellin is tough on the hotel situation and has gotten worse since the dollar devalued against the peso.[/QUOTE]Energy living will check all of your boxes.

They like the location and consider it just below a Hilton or Marriott but costs slightly more. Overall they like it because they don't get hassled about bringing in girls the way they used to at the Dann Carlton and the Four Points. All the questions are making more curious to see the rooms so I'm going to check it out when they are here next time.

[QUOTE=Nomars777;2860771]What, in particular, have your friends liked about the Haven? I had a girl tell me that she liked to go there with clients, so it must be fairly nice.

Any additional information is welcomed before I book my Thanksgiving week trip, thanks![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MikeVee;2860700]First time to Medellin and first time poster. I'm 40 years old from California and my Spanish is not so great. I'm very interested in connecting with some mongers and making some friends as I'll be in Colombia the next 3 to 6 months. I'm a bit nervous due to the reports of people being drugged. First round is on me![/QUOTE]Tried DMing you but seems it's disabled for you. Will be in Medellin for first 2 weeks of Nov, technically my second trip but my first was only 2 months ago. Feel free to connect privately.

[QUOTE=StudBucket;2860858]Hi Knowledge, rooms like nice here and I actually asked for a tour in this hotel as well the last trip. The hotel checks all boxes except for the fact that you get very small rooms. The rooms are only 170-200 sf and are all 120 -180 per night us. So you get small room, albeit it modern and nice, for a higher price. Just my take. Medellin is tough on the hotel situation and has gotten worse since the dollar devalued against the peso.[/QUOTE]You might want to re-check the pricing. I will be back in Medellin in early December for a little over a week, and the pricing for those small rooms (which I agree are tight) works out to under $80 a night. You can get a room with a living area (couch / chair) for under $100 a night which I found to be comfortable even during a 3 week stay. Of course, there are other options there which cost more (balconies, jacuzzis, multiple rooms) - but I found the location to be perfect for me (very close to Provenza and Lleras, but just far enough away from the action to be relatively quiet) and the hotel clean and modern. Of course, the dates you'll be staying there also matters for pricing. The breakfast sucks, though.

[QUOTE=ElSexoChino7;2860755]LLeras Green Hotel, I've heard good things about this hotel. This is close to your descriptions. Guest friendly. I never stayed here as I prefer guest friendly Airbnb's with security. I was considering on staying at this hotel last year based from the review of a guy from YouTube, but I decided that I don't want to be too close to Parque LLeras.[/QUOTE]I have stayed there a couple of times. It is inexpensive for the area and safe. They do allow guests but there is a fee, I believe $10-20 but don't hold me to that. The rooms are indeed small and it is a no frills hotel. If you want to spend time in the room, it is not for you. If it is a place to sleep, shower, s* and shave, with guests when you want it, it serves the purpose. DuPark next door is nicer and has a great breakfast, but their price has doubled from the time I first stayed there 2 years ago. Lleras Green cannot be closer to the action, so convenient. It is pretty noisy, so if you want to sleep before 3 am, bring ear plugs and noise cancelling headsets. Hope this helps.

Happy hunting.

Snook.

[QUOTE=ElSexoChino7;2860757]I'm excited to check this spot. Are all the girls that comes here are working girls? How's the quality of girls? What's the going rate here?[/QUOTE]Yes, all the girls are working girls. Quality is pretty good, lots of 6-7's who will almost always show you a good, safe, time as they don't want to get barred. Price is def negotiable but 250 cop is a normal rate.

Here's a summary of my trip in August 2023.

I'm a total newbie in Medellin and my Spanish was virtually non-existent. I could get by in a restaurant but that's pretty much it.

Prior to coming to Medellin I read the forum and my main take away was the fact that I had build a new FB profile and line up FB girls ahead of time. I spent about 2 months finding girls on FB and got to about 120 contacts. I did not contact any of them before landing in Medellin.

[B]Arrival and getting around[/B]

Since Uber is not officially allowed, I opted to get a taxi from the taxi area.

I asked the driver about the price but don't remember what he actually said.

Upon arrival to my destination he said 100 k. I thought it would be 75 k as was suggested elsewhere but I wasn't going to argue with him. I didn't have cash so opted to pay by card.

Taxi drivers have this portable card machine. The one my driver used didn't connect well. It took us 6-7 attempts before my transaction went through.

Tip: Often times when you pay by debit card they will ask you which account to use 'Ahorros' is for Savings and 'Corrientes' is for current account. Often times it doesn't matter what you choose but sometimes it does (as was the case with my taxi driver's machine).

Once in the city. I was Ubering pretty much everywhere. In my experience getting the non-taxi Ubers (inside the app you have a choice) was more reliable. Waiting times were shorter and they didn't cancel on me. In Medellin you should just get into the front seat straight away, some drivers don't mind you sitting in the back but sometimes they'll ask you to sit in the front. Also most of the Ubers I took had the seats adjusted for the front seat.

[B]Massage places[/B]

I used to be a massage guy for various reasons and I still like to mix in body to body massages when I travel.

I found 2 places in El Poblado with decent ratings just by searching on Google Maps. I find that reviews are somewhat trustworthy and indicative of the services provided.

First I tried Happy Massage. Messaged them on WhatsApp and they provided the price list along with the catalog of girls. Unfortunately there are no faces in the material you receive.

They have different types of massages ranging from normal with happy ending to body to body. Some include 2 finishes, some don't. But there's a clearly stated price in case you want 2nd finish with a massage that doesn't normally include it.

The line up was very decent. I tried 3 different massages with 3 different girls. Most were quite dark skinned, but there was also one lady with lighter skin.

I believe prices were in the range of 200-350 k.

Tip: I decided to try their most expensive option. The one that includes Pandora's box, thinking that maybe that includes things beyond hand relief, but it didn't (at least I my case). With Pandora's box the masseuse lets you choose one card which describes some kind of activity. I think I got a pretty lame one. Basically the girl would take a flashlight and guide your hand with it. I. e. You are touching where she is pointing. I have no idea what's on the other cards. Maybe I'll ask next time I visit.

I also didn't ask if there were any extras. While the masseuses were attractive 2 out of 3 did not give out GFE vibes, so I think it wouldn't have been good value for money anyway.

The massages were ok. Nothing to write home about, but they do focus on your erogenous zones sufficiently. YMMV with different masseuses though.

On one occasion I tried to check the full line up in person. But other girls weren't available, only the older lady. Which wasn't my type.

I'd give Happy Massage 4. 5/5 overall. It's pricey but I did enjoy my time there and the girls were hot.

Esperanza Massage.

This place seems much cheaper. I think I paid 150 k for topless B2 be. Similar to Happy Massage they send you catalog of girls and prices via WhatsApp. I did get to see the line up. There were about 6 girls I think. None were my type to be honest, but one girl had a really nice booty so I went with her. Didn't ask for availability of BJ / FS.

[B]Mileroticos[/B]

Decided to try Mileroticos - 2 ads caught my eye. One masseuse and one independent.

The masseuse.

Price was cheapest I encountered to date - 120 k for B2 be. Place was in Laureles. In a residential area. Found the door and rang the bell. Door was opened by the girl in the ad. She looked just as good in person as she did in the ad. A 19 year old Colombiana, slightly curvier than I like but still very attractive with great proportions. She was dressed in a masseuse uniform. Turns out it was some sort of a casa. Because she asked me who I was there to see.

Massage wasn't great and wasn't that sensual but upon turning over she asked me how I wanted to finish. The choices were oral and FS. I didn't actually understand fully what she was saying and just kept nodding, thus choosing FS for 100 k extra. So total damage was around 220 k.

The girl was very friendly but the room really smelled of man-juice, which was putting me off.

I'd give this girl 7. 5/10. Happy with experience and might even return back to marvel at her booty in doggy position.

The independent.

Similar to the masseuse girl. Got the address in Laureles area by WhatsApp. I show up, knock on door, the door is opened by chubby lady. I say I want to see X (the girl from ad) - she says X is not available and asks if I want to see another girl. I say no and leave. The reason I left promptly is because in the 'reception area' there were 6 dudes sitting on couch staring at me having a conversation in my broken Spanish with that lady. They didn't look like tourists either. I didn't feel like sticking around, so left. But then I get another message on WhatsApp from X asking if I already left. I said no and she said to come back.

At this point there were several red flags and I should've just gone elsewhere at that point. Red flag 1: the girl was not independent, it was a casa. Red flag 2: they tried to bait and switch. Red flag 3: there are sketchy dudes on the couch.

I don't know what I was thinking but I went back. I think it's because the girl looked insanely hot on the ad and I thought it's worth taking a chance. When I get back, X opens the door. The lighting was not very good, I could recognise her but wasn't sure if she's a looker or not. She also had a long dress which covered most of her body. So I proceed inside and agree on the time / price. I think it was around 150-200 k. She takes her dress off and I know I made a mistake by coming back but it's too late to back out. It was a total waste of time and money.

I give this girl 4/10. Looks wise she is probably a 5 or a 6, but service was terrible.

[B]Parque Lleras and Calle 10[/B]

This is where a lot of the street walkers are. At night, girls don't just congregate in Parque Lleras. They are all along Calle 10 from Parque Lleras pretty much all the way to Provenza (the area with restraunts).

There are 2 things to note:

1) Entry from Calle 10 to Prague Lleras and adjacent areas is controlled by security / police. You'll see metal fence thingies barricading the entrances, leaving just narrow gaps for entry and exit. Some girls get their IDs checked. I think they also check some bags.

2) There's a lot of police around this area at night. Yet you still get some dudes trying to sell you coke as you walk around.

It's a bit weird to see working girls standing right next to the police. For the first few days this was putting me off from getting numbers from girls, but it seems to be pretty normal here.

I got a total of 3 numbers from street girls.

One quoted 100 dollars. I did not continue conversation. One quoted 300 k and another one 350 k (not including taxis).

I decided to session with the one who quoted 350 k. I really liked her look when I saw her on the street. Very pretty face and nice ass. It was the worst punt of my entire trip.

Her boobs sagged a lot and weren't pleasant to look at. But worst of all she had some skin issues. I couldn't see it before because of what she was wearing.

I know people say that you shouldn't pay upfront, in the past I've had plenty of experiences where I paid upfront and had a good time, so I didn't think much of it.

By the time I saw her naked I already gave her the money and I didn't think there was a way for me to get it back.

The girl was 21 (I think), had a son, was generally pleasant to talk to. I just wish I could meet her 2 years earlier before she had a baby. For some reason I kept thinking about this girl from time to time afterwards, I just felt sorry for her situation. Because of that. I didn't care much for money I gave her.

[B]Ibiza Motel (Itagui branch)[/B]

I decided to use Ibiza Motel for all of my punts. My thinking was that it's safer this way and I could save some money by not staying in some overpriced hotel in El Poblado.

I really didn't know how motels worked in Medellin, so here's a guide I wish I had:

1. You don't need to book in advance. You just show up and get the room on the spot. They have different types. I opted for 'Premium' which is 120 k. You can book advance, but it's mostly for special occasions when you want to order some custom decorations etc. Locals would use it for anniversaries etc.

2. When you get to the motel there's an intercom that you use to speak to the 'receptionist' but in practice there's also someone outside. If it's in the evening. It's probably the security guard, but if you are there earlier in the day. There's some sort of a 'maid'. Most of the time I'd just tell them that I want Premium and then they'd talk to someone inside. Once the room is allocated they tell you the number of the room. Rooms are along a long passage. There's a digital sign next to each door which lights up when the room is allocated, so you are able to see where to go.

3. The doors to the rooms are controlled by the reception. They open the doors when someone arrives or after you've paid and ready to leave. For most rooms there's a set of stairs you have to climb to get into the actual room. The doors don't open into the rooms directly, they lead you to the stairs bit.

4. Aircon and jacuzzi are disabled by default. There's a phone in the room. You can ring reception to ask them to turn on either.

5. You get a phone call from the reception when a guest arrives. The inform you of the arrival and ask for confirmation. Once you confirm they let the guest through and open the door.

6. For some reason I couldn't just let my guest out and stay in the room myself after we were done. I tried a few times in my broken Spanish but had no luck. So I had to always leave with the girl at the same time.

7. When you are ready to leave. You call the reception and tell them that you want to pay and leave. In your room. There's a fridge. On the other side of the fridge is actually the space where all the maids are. So once they know that you are ready to leave. They open the fridge from the other side and check what you've used.

Once they've calculated your total they will knock from the other side of the wall where fridge is. There's a compartment above the fridge. You open that and talk to the person on the other side. They show you the bill and you are able to pay. I always paid by card.

Once you've paid. The doors downstairs are opened and you can leave. The moment you leave the room. Maids enter the room and check the room. As you walk out the security guard would normally stop me and ask to wait until the maids confirm that everything is in order. Until the guards gets a confirmation he'd keep you there. They also have a waiting area where you can wait for taxis.

8. Room is given to you for up to 6 hours, after which they start charging extra. There are also limits on how many people can be in the room depending on the room you booked. I believe Premium is for 2 people, but you can get a third one in if you pay extra.

[B]FB girls[/B]

FB girls were the highlight of the trip.

I am not going to describe each encounter, I'll just summarise as follows:

- Out of 5 girls, only 1 didn't provide GFE (but she had the best ass).

- Looks / body wise they were 7. 5-9's for me.

- As far as I remember. Ages were 18/19/19/21/23.

- 2 didn't want to use condoms and in the heat of the moment I went along with it (never done this before. Ever). 1 of them didn't let me pull out. She was on top.

- Prices were 250 k-350 k + 50 k for taxis.

- I did encounter a fair few scam profiles. In 2 cases I found out they were scammers pretty late in the process. 1 I was able to spot just before arranging for meet up. They used photos of some OF model that I was able to reverse image search eventually (had to try each photo). 1 was indistinguishable from a real profile (I. E. I met up with another real FB girl who had a very similar profile). I don't know what they wanted but they played along all the way through arranging a meet up and even saying they are ready to catch a taxi. Then nothing. Fortunately someone else was available at last minute, so it was fine.

I'm coming back to Medellin in a few weeks and planning to repeat all of my FB girls and try to find a few more.

If anyone wants to exchange contacts for FB girls. DM me, but please be aware I'm very picky and don't get mad if I decline your offers. Also, obviously I can only vouch for my experiences. Your mileage may vary.

I'll attach screenshots of FB girls I mentioned above. If you are able to find them through the images. Go for it. You earned it. And I'll be happy to share their contacts in DMs after my trip in November.

I'm too lazy to proof read my post. Hope at least some of it is readable and useful to somebody.

(I'll be in Medellin again in first 2 weeks of November. DM me if you want to meet up.).

[QUOTE=JC9999;2861042]You might want to re-check the pricing. I will be back in Medellin in early December for a little over a week, and the pricing for those small rooms (which I agree are tight) works out to under $80 a night. You can get a room with a living area (couch / chair) for under $100 a night which I found to be comfortable even during a 3 week stay. Of course, there are other options there which cost more (balconies, jacuzzis, multiple rooms) - but I found the location to be perfect for me (very close to Provenza and Lleras, but just far enough away from the action to be relatively quiet) and the hotel clean and modern. Of course, the dates you'll be staying there also matters for pricing. The breakfast sucks, though.[/QUOTE]Hey there JC. I rechecked several dates via end of November and December and found that the least expesive room is about 110 per night, not 80 dollars. But, I do find that price to be not so bad for the quality of the hotel. I was able to actually get a room for about 120 at DuParc and got a free upgrade as I have stayed there before several times so it worked out. Thanks.

[QUOTE=StudBucket;2861098]Hey there JC. I rechecked several dates via end of November and December and found that the least expesive room is about 110 per night, not 80 dollars.[/QUOTE]The prices change daily like flights do. Not nearly as much. I wanted a certain hotel near a disco in a small town that first listed $18, then $20, then hit $33, now back down to $19. All in a 7 day time frame.

[QUOTE=StudBucket;2861098]Hey there JC. I rechecked several dates via end of November and December and found that the least expesive room is about 110 per night, not 80 dollars. But, I do find that price to be not so bad for the quality of the hotel. I was able to actually get a room for about 120 at DuParc and got a free upgrade as I have stayed there before several times so it worked out. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Must be the dates, as I saw the same prices I quoted to you this morning. $94 a night (on average) for an 8-night say from Dec. 5th to 13th for the Marquesses (which is a suite, no balcony). But $113 a night if just on the weekend. Smallest rooms are roughly $20 less in both instances. Doesn't include the VAT, but I don't believe that apples to foreigners (and the site says it does not, but I could be misinterpreting). But anyway, I'm not trying to be their shill. Duparc looks nice. I just personally find access to the the types of atmosphere I prefer (restaurants, cafes, bars) to be better where Haven is (although I'm also going to consider Click Clack this time around. But that is more expensive and I believe you have to pay for visitors). I'm so looking forward to getting back down there.

Background:

Favorita I have known 14+ years got a butt augmentation almost a decade ago. Now, it is going bad. She tells me the surgeon wants COP 40 million to remove the polymers, keep them from migrating, and hide the suture scars in the butt crack.

Questions:

Granted, the procedure would involve a hospital surgical suite, an hour or more under anesthesia, etc. , but is this the going rate down there?

Is it normal that surgeons would not accept credit cards for procedures?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bpoiH38KVc

[QUOTE=Obstenku;2861083]Here's a summary of my trip in August 2023.

I'm a total newbie in Medellin and my Spanish was virtually non-existent. I could get by in a restaurant but that's pretty much it.

Prior to coming to Medellin I read the forum and my main take away was the fact that I had build a new FB profile and line up FB girls ahead of time. I spent about 2 months finding girls on FB and got
to about 120 contacts. I did not contact any of them before landing in Medellin.[/QUOTE]I dislike FB so much that I haven't used it in probably 10 years, but with this report, I might have to reconsider that opinion!

Thanks for this!

[QUOTE=IguanaSix;2861166]Background:

Favorita I have known 14+ years got a butt augmentation almost a decade ago. Now, it is going bad. She tells me the surgeon wants COP 40 million to remove the polymers, keep them from migrating, and hide the suture scars in the butt crack.

Questions:

Granted, the procedure would involve a hospital surgical suite, an hour or more under anesthesia, etc. , but is this the going rate down there?

Is it normal that surgeons would not accept credit cards for procedures?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bpoiH38KVc[/QUOTE]Regardless of whether or not that is the going rate (which it probably isn't) you would be the biggest simp of 2023 if you sent that kind of money to her. It would be much cheaper to just block her and let natural selection run its course. But hey it's your money, go ahead and simp it off.

[QUOTE=JC9999;2861151]Doesn't include the VAT, but I don't believe that apples to foreigners (and the site says it does not, but I could be misinterpreting).[/QUOTE]Tourists (travelers who stay 180 days or less in one calendar year) are not supposed to have to pay the VAT tax. The one and only time I stayed at the Mansion, they charged a VAT tax and would not take it off even after I questioned it. They claimed the exemption only applies to new hotels, which is pure BS.

[QUOTE=IguanaSix;2861166]Background:

Favorita I have known 14+ years got a butt augmentation almost a decade ago. Now, it is going bad. She tells me the surgeon wants COP 40 million to remove the polymers, keep them from migrating, and hide the suture scars in the butt crack.

Questions:

Granted, the procedure would involve a hospital surgical suite, an hour or more under anesthesia, etc. , but is this the going rate down there?

Is it normal that surgeons would not accept credit cards for procedures?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bpoiH38KVc[/QUOTE]$9,500 USD? That's more than a US doctor & hospital would charge for implant removal.

[QUOTE=IguanaSix;2861166]Background:

Favorita I have known 14+ years got a butt augmentation almost a decade ago. Now, it is going bad. She tells me the surgeon wants COP 40 million to remove the polymers, keep them from migrating, and hide the suture scars in the butt crack.

Questions:

Granted, the procedure would involve a hospital surgical suite, an hour or more under anesthesia, etc. , but is this the going rate down there?

Is it normal that surgeons would not accept credit cards for procedures?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bpoiH38KVc[/QUOTE]Wow that's fucking ridiculous, maybe 10 million COP.

My suggestion would be to have your "favorita" supply you with the Doctor's quote, and as far credit cards, yes most accept them but a lot also prefer electronic transfers into their bank accounts.

Hopefully she will have a nice ass to grab when the procedure is done and she has healed. LOL.

[QUOTE=Obstenku;2861083]Here's a summary of my trip in August 2023.

[B]Arrival and getting around[/B]
Since Uber is not officially allowed, I opted to get a taxi from the taxi area.
I asked the driver about the price but don't remember what he actually said.
Upon arrival to my destination he said 100 k. I thought it would be 75 k as was suggested elsewhere but I wasn't going to argue with him. I didn't have cash so opted to pay by card.
[/QUOTE]As stated in this forum many times, the current white taxi rate to the city from the airport is $98 k COP, which everyone rounds up to $100 k. Some users have reported that late night arrivals can get hustled to $120 K COP, but that could be a confidence / approach issue. It is posted in a big sign where you pick up your luggage and also at the airport's website: [URL]https://www.aeropuertorionegro.co/web/page/72/C%C3%B3mo-llegar[/URL].

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2861184]Tourists (travelers who stay 180 days or less in one calendar year) are not supposed to have to pay the VAT tax. The one and only time I stayed at the Mansion, they charged a VAT tax and would not take it off even after I questioned it. They claimed the exemption only applies to new hotels, which is pure BS.[/QUOTE]When this happens to you, you can just fill out a form at exit and the government will refund you the VAT tax. This is the main reason the hotel collects and copies your passport and entry stamp, legal evidence as to why they did not collect VAT tax. This applies to almost every country in the world. Avianca has a page specific to Colombia on the process: [URL]https://www.avianca.com/co/en/before-your-trip/travel-documentation/statement-and-sales-tax-refund/[/URL].

[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;2861207]When this happens to you, you can just fill out a form at exit and the government will refund you the VAT tax. [/QUOTE]Only if you paid with a credit or debit card, and you still may not get it. My neighbor filed the papers at the airport more than three years ago for taxes the hotel and other miscellaneous places charged. She still hasn't received a refund, nor any communication from the tax department.

[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;2861206]As stated in this forum many times, the current white taxi rate to the city from the airport is $98 k COP, which everyone rounds up to $100 k. Some users have reported that late night arrivals can get hustled to $120 K COP, but that could be a confidence / approach issue. It is posted in a big sign where you pick up your luggage and also at the airport's website: [URL]https://www.aeropuertorionegro.co/web/page/72/C%C3%B3mo-llegar[/URL].[/QUOTE]What happens late at night if there is only one white taxi available, or only a few, some will ask for more then the posted rate as you mentioned and will blow you off if you don't take it, so in some instances doesn't matter how you approach them.

I arrived one night around 2 PM and a white taxi driver said 110 K, and since he was the only driver available, and I was wasted from flying so long I just said okay fuck it let's go.

I didn't want to screw around over about $ 2 USD at 2 AM in the morning and just wanted to climb in the sack.

If there had been more than one taxi driver available I might have raised hell, but sometimes they will all try to hose you as this happens a lot with the yellow taxis like in and around Zona Rosa and at the Poblado Metro station if there is a shortage of taxis, especially if your a foreigner, and a Friday or Saturday night.

I Just recently got in a yellow cab at the Poblado Metro Station, and was headed up towards the Tesoro area and the driver gave me a fixed price when I asked him to turn on the meter so I just got out of the cab and found another one. If you are able to pick up a yellow taxi at a designated pick up spot for them, like at EXITO in Pobaldo, they won't try to pull a stunt like that.

This past Monday I had a flight out of Medellin and reserved a pick up in Poblado, with the same white taxi company that works out of Rio Negro and the posted rate on their website for pick up from Medellin to Rio Negro was only 90 K, and they were very punctual.

And as far as the posted rate of 98 K well as some may not be aware of, that's the posted rate from portions of Medellin like Poblado posted in all the yellow taxis.

And sometimes at the airport when there are no taxis available that sometimes occurs during the day, you will have to wait for one to show up and will be paying 98 K but again have to wait a awhile so you can always go to the departure level and look for someone being dropped off and snag a ride.

I have only had to do this on one occasion, and as an example, if it's a yellow taxi they will be happy to take you because they are not licensed to pick up passengers at the airport so they just return to the City as the 98 K fare actually includes the toll fare both ways.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2861241]What happens late at night if there is only one white taxi available, or only a few, some will ask for more then the posted rate as you mentioned and will blow you off if you don't take it, so in some instances doesn't matter how you approach them.

I arrived one night around 2 PM and a white taxi driver said 110 K, and since he was the only driver available, and I was wasted from flying so long I just said okay fuck it let's go.

I didn't want to screw around over about $ 2 USD at 2 AM in the morning and just wanted to climb in the sack.[/QUOTE]Your experiences at the airport mirror mine. I consistently arrive late due to the airline schedule. Have the same problem with the hustle. I am not going to going to fuck around over a few dollars. I am long past worrying about that in order to facilitate my personal comfort.

[QUOTE=IguanaSix;2861166]Favorita I have known 14+ years got a butt augmentation almost a decade ago. Now, it is going bad. She tells me the surgeon wants COP 40 million[/QUOTE]You ask too many questions man. Just pay it.

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[B]FB girls[/B]

FB girls were the highlight of the trip.

I am not going to describe each encounter, I'll just summarise as follows:

- Out of 5 girls, only 1 didn't provide GFE (but she had the best ass).

- Looks / body wise they were 7. 5-9's for me.

- As far as I remember. Ages were 18/19/19/21/23.

- 2 didn't want to use condoms and in the heat of the moment I went along with it (never done this before. Ever). 1 of them didn't let me pull out. She was on top.

- Prices were 250 k-350 k + 50 k for taxis.

- I did encounter a fair few scam profiles. In 2 cases I found out they were scammers pretty late in the process. 1 I was able to spot just before arranging for meet up. They used photos of some OF model that I was able to reverse image search eventually (had to try each photo). 1 was indistinguishable from a real profile (I. E. I met up with another real FB girl who had a very similar profile). I don't know what they wanted but they played along all the way through arranging a meet up and even saying they are ready to catch a taxi. Then nothing. Fortunately someone else was available at last minute, so it was fine.

I'm coming back to Medellin in a few weeks and planning to repeat all of my FB girls and try to find a few more.

If anyone wants to exchange contacts for FB girls. DM me, but please be aware I'm very picky and don't get mad if I decline your offers. Also, obviously I can only vouch for my experiences. Your mileage may vary.

I'll attach screenshots of FB girls I mentioned above. If you are able to find them through the images. Go for it. You earned it. And I'll be happy to share their contacts in DMs after my trip in November.

I'm too lazy to proof read my post. Hope at least some of it is readable and useful to somebody.

(I'll be in Medellin again in first 2 weeks of November. DM me if you want to meet up.).[/QUOTE]Damn man I've been having a lot of trouble matching with girls like this forum said.

I'm friending anyone and everyone in Medellin area and just typing random names and changing the city to Medellin.

Maybe it's because I made a new account recently and didn't post my actually face? I dno.

What's weird is I'm having more success with instagram looking for girls.

I'm going to have to buy a membership again and DM you for those girls info ugh.

[QUOTE=GeorgeCarta22;2861399]
Maybe it's because I made a new account recently and didn't post my actually face? I dno.

What's weird is I'm having more success with instagram looking for girls.
[/QUOTE]Exactly. I find when my photo is even an obscure picture of my face (can't truly tell it's me), more girls accept my friendship requests.

Also, post a few public things so that someone looking at your page still gets a sense of who you are. Your humor, your interests, etc.

I have a feeling that instagram is the way to go these days. I haven't had an issue connecting with chicas on Facebook, but something is telling me it would be easier to connect with younger women on that platform. Since it's a younger person's app. But maybe because Colombia has lots of older gringos coming who use Facebook chicas have adapted to that to connect. Then because the chicas are there, more mongers show up and it's a self reinforcing cycle.

Can we crowdfund a documentary into the use of social media for hoeing around Colombia? Who were the pioneers? Key moments? How Facebook policy changes affected the market?

[QUOTE=BbqMushrooms;2861430]Exactly. I find when my photo is even an obscure picture of my face (can't truly tell it's me), more girls accept my friendship requests.

Also, post a few public things so that someone looking at your page still gets a sense of who you are. Your humor, your interests, etc.

I have a feeling that instagram is the way to go these days. I haven't had an issue connecting with chicas on Facebook, but something is telling me it would be easier to connect with younger women on that platform. Since it's a younger person's app. But maybe because Colombia has lots of older gringos coming who use Facebook chicas have adapted to that to connect. Then because the chicas are there, more mongers show up and it's a self reinforcing cycle.

Can we crowdfund a documentary into the use of social media for hoeing around Colombia? Who were the pioneers? Key moments? How Facebook policy changes affected the market?[/QUOTE]Maybe the fact that more girls accept your friend request when they can't actual see your face as opposed to seeing your face is more a reflection of how you look. Ja ja ja.

Older gringos actually don't use Facebook very much. Rather, older gringos go on Facebook because girls in Medellin are on Facebook. Girls were on FB first and that is why gringos go searching there.

Many girls on FB are also on Instragram or you might say many girls on Instragram often have a FB profile.

I think your cause and effect analysis may be slightly off.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100080044435168&mibextid=LQQJ4d[/URL]

Facebook scam account. Pretends to be a girl. They say they live like 4 hours away from Medellin but they want to meet. Just send the taxi money. Which it should be 600 k but they ask for 74 mil. When you ask them to send a picture a certain way to prove it actually them they don't. When you ask to call them on video they make up an excuse. They did share the location live and it was where they told me. But without a video call can't prove anything which they won't do.

Don't send money guys becareful out there.

[QUOTE=Haxagonus;2861489][URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100080044435168&mibextid=LQQJ4d[/URL]

Facebook scam account. Pretends to be a girl. They say they live like 4 hours away from Medellin but they want to meet. Just send the taxi money. Which it should be 600 k but they ask for 74 mil. When you ask them to send a picture a certain way to prove it actually them they don't. When you ask to call them on video they make up an excuse. They did share the location live and it was where they told me. But without a video call can't prove anything which they won't do.

Don't send money guys becareful out there.[/QUOTE]That's one of the most obviously fake accounts I've seen to be honest LOL. There are multiple different pics of chics (one that is legit and I've met) as well as pics of Jessica Rabbit who is a somewhat famous IG'er and pornstar from Barranquilla. You can do a reverse image search if you want to do a quick check on an account's authenticity.

[QUOTE=BbqMushrooms;2861430]Exactly. I find when my photo is even an obscure picture of my face (can't truly tell it's me), more girls accept my friendship requests.

Also, post a few public things so that someone looking at your page still gets a sense of who you are. Your humor, your interests, etc.

I have a feeling that instagram is the way to go these days. I haven't had an issue connecting with chicas on Facebook, but something is telling me it would be easier to connect with younger women on that platform. Since it's a younger person's app. But maybe because Colombia has lots of older gringos coming who use Facebook chicas have adapted to that to connect. Then because the chicas are there, more mongers show up and it's a self reinforcing cycle.

Can we crowdfund a documentary into the use of social media for hoeing around Colombia? Who were the pioneers? Key moments? How Facebook policy changes affected the market?[/QUOTE]I have faux accounts for FB and IG although I do use real pics. I've had quite good success. IG takes a little longer and more prima donnas, but you can find some real lookers. I find they typically want more than the FB girls by 100 k or so premium, but some of them will go out with you simply to have a nice dinner at a fashionable place. I've had some freebies.

This is my process for online.

1. Filter every girl that is ugly.

2. Message the handful of decent girls.

The hot girls either don't answer or they are just an agency where the girl doesn't work anymore and there's only a few ugly girls. (The tried circumnavigating my step 1) or they're yea I would love to show up to your house just send me money first. Anyone asking for money is a scammer. Even if it's for the taxi. And some might be legit but I would never know because I can't send money in Colombia maybe remitly works. Either way, I'the rather be on the safe side and just label them as scammers. The vast multitude of only girls are ugly tho.

Face book is filled with scammers, bimbos selling pics, and girls I wouldn't go out with. The handful that would go out with me I asked to video call one before a date because they started asking for money for un "un helado" I said after you video call me I'll send it. They video call me and the room is mad dark. She's like I'm in "university ". My booty. So dark but it didn't seem like the girl in the photos.

So yea Medellin online sucks. And Medellin in general seems to be bad as well. At least quality per cost. There are a bunch of girls online and in person but they are all ugly.

Lleras girls are just centro girls. Centro girls are not that good looking I've heard. I want to fantasias energy and it was bad so other casas might be the same. There are only 2 or 3 girls I would do in la isla. Don't feel like negotiating in gustos. I still have to try Loutron again.

Just going to stick to la isla, Loutron if it's good and venture out to Luna lunera and fase dos to see if it's good. Otherwise peace out Medellin.

[QUOTE=Haxagonus;2861532]This is my process for online.

1. Filter every girl that is ugly.

2. Message the handful of decent girls.

The hot girls either don't answer or they are just an agency where the girl doesn't work anymore and there's only a few ugly girls. (The tried circumnavigating my step 1) or they're yea I would love to show up to your house just send me money first. Anyone asking for money is a scammer. Even if it's for the taxi. And some might be legit but I would never know because I can't send money in Colombia maybe remitly works. Either way, I'the rather be on the safe side and just label them as scammers. The vast multitude of only girls are ugly tho.

Face book is filled with scammers, bimbos selling pics, and girls I wouldn't go out with. The handful that would go out with me I asked to video call one before a date because they started asking for money for un "un helado" I said after you video call me I'll send it. They video call me and the room is mad dark. She's like I'm in "university ". My booty. So dark but it didn't seem like the girl in the photos.

So yea Medellin online sucks. And Medellin in general seems to be bad as well. At least quality per cost. There are a bunch of girls online and in person but they are all ugly.

Lleras girls are just centro girls. Centro girls are not that good looking I've heard. I want to fantasias energy and it was bad so other casas might be the same. There are only 2 or 3 girls I would do in la isla. Don't feel like negotiating in gustos. I still have to try Loutron again.

Just going to stick to la isla, Loutron if it's good and venture out to Luna lunera and fase dos to see if it's good. Otherwise peace out Medellin.[/QUOTE]I haven't have the same experience with Facebook girls in Medellin but I have been focused exclusively on Facebook girls for six trips now. With some time and effort, you can avoid the scammers and unattractive girls. There are a number of young attractive girls available on Facebook for a reasonable price. You just have to take the time to screen the girls and find the good ones. I would agree if you don't have the time before your trip, don't go on Facebook looking for girls. You do have to pay for transport because they tend to live in Bello but you can pay for the taxi when it arrives at your place and not in advance. So far no girl has not looked like their pictures on their FB profile. I have been impressed with with the quality of the girls that I have found on FB and their performance in bed. But to each, his own and you should do what you think is right for you.

[QUOTE=Haxagonus;2861532]This is my process for online.

1. Filter every girl that is ugly.

2. Message the handful of decent girls.

The hot girls either don't answer or they are just an agency where the girl doesn't work anymore and there's only a few ugly girls. (The tried circumnavigating my step 1) or they're yea I would love to show up to your house just send me money first. Anyone asking for money is a scammer. Even if it's for the taxi. And some might be legit but I would never know because I can't send money in Colombia maybe remitly works. Either way, I'the rather be on the safe side and just label them as scammers. The vast multitude of only girls are ugly tho.

Face book is filled with scammers, bimbos selling pics, and girls I wouldn't go out with. The handful that would go out with me I asked to video call one before a date because they started asking for money for un "un helado" I said after you video call me I'll send it. They video call me and the room is mad dark. She's like I'm in "university ". My booty. So dark but it didn't seem like the girl in the photos.

So yea Medellin online sucks. And Medellin in general seems to be bad as well. At least quality per cost. There are a bunch of girls online and in person but they are all ugly.

Lleras girls are just centro girls. Centro girls are not that good looking I've heard. I want to fantasias energy and it was bad so other casas might be the same. There are only 2 or 3 girls I would do in la isla. Don't feel like negotiating in gustos. I still have to try Loutron again.

Just going to stick to la isla, Loutron if it's good and venture out to Luna lunera and fase dos to see if it's good. Otherwise peace out Medellin.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, this is the reality. Most of the hot girls are no longer in MDE, but in Europe, Mexico, etc. Or have sugar daddies and / or western union simps and don't need to fuck random gringos anymore. Bogota might be a better option, because of the college girls, and a sheer volume of women, but the weather kinda sucks. Lune Lunera is garbage, don't waste your time. La Isla is superior to fase dos. Loutron is a hit or miss, but the service is a bit mechanical and all covered.

For a newbie, Medellin is a tough place nowadays. Most guys who still have fun in Medellin are those living there, or coming down there often and relying on their regulars. Treat your regulars well, guys and enjoy them while they last.

Just as many have been stating for a few months now, the decline of medellin started about 10 years ago. Read my reports and you can follow the progression.

In some people's opinion the best strategy in medellin today is to go to the centro casas and offer a tip (propina) for whatever service you desire.

See, the problem with going to the places where you pay hundred of thousands of pesos upfront is that the chica has already made her money as soon as you have paid the time fee for her.

She does not need a tip to make it worth her while to suffer you on top of her for a rato.

Enjoy the last that medellin has to offer and of course don't end up like that guy in cartagena today.

Colombia is passe. Check out my recent post on El Salvador.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2861565]Unfortunately, this is the reality. Most of the hot girls are no longer in MDE, but in Europe, Mexico, etc. Or have sugar daddies and / or western union simps and don't need to fuck random gringos anymore.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Chicago85;2861497]That's one of the most obviously fake accounts I've seen to be honest LOL.[/QUOTE]I feel like there's a huge tell on these accounts. See image. Like there's some parent account sharing posts with 90 other accounts. Who must be fake as well.

I'm coming from Brazil for a short stint to Medellin. Been there years ago. Now I read everybody is upset its all bad and nothing. Should I just not bother? I used to be in Bogota in the post COVID era and it was decent. Has it really gotten so bad?

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2861565]Unfortunately, this is the reality. Most of the hot girls are no longer in MDE, but in Europe, Mexico, etc. Or have sugar daddies and / or western union simps and don't need to fuck random gringos anymore. Bogota might be a better option, because of the college girls, and a sheer volume of women, but the weather kinda sucks. Lune Lunera is garbage, don't waste your time. La Isla is superior to fase dos. Loutron is a hit or miss, but the service is a bit mechanical and all covered.

For a newbie, Medellin is a tough place nowadays. Most guys who still have fun in Medellin are those living there, or coming down there often and relying on their regulars. Treat your regulars well, guys and enjoy them while they last.[/QUOTE]Yep. Confirmed. Girls go where the money is.

You know what's crazy? I have to make more money to get the good looking girls and be able to travel to where they are AND I have to also get more status on ig or something to either bring the girls to me or so that they actually reply. There's no other way to secure a steady stream of play. Crazy I have to do so much I guess it’s the life of a man.

Did go to la isla. Found a found an 8. 5 I really like. Has a booty so big that even when I squeeze it it doesn't fit in my hand. Glad I went because now I have her contact and we'll be going to eat Mexican food maybe shells come back to my place for a reasonable price. Talked to a girl who walked up to me as I went out. Absolute 5. Mate was like you want to go upstairs and I was like I called the Uber. She said if I wanted to take her home I'm like what's the cost. Un million she said that's 1,000 k Like USD 250. I just laughed. She did say 200 goes to la isla which is interesting. Maybe out of the regular 550 k for 30 minutes. La isla takes 200 k so the girl gets 350? Hmm if this is true then girls were getting 150 before the price hike. Hmm.

I told her what if I get your what'sapp and call you tomorrow. She stills said 1 million. LOL. Relatively speaking she's the ugliest girl in la isla. Next! Hopefully the 8. 5 I met today doesn't charge me that.

In the middle of my stay at la isla (got there at 11:30 pm left at 2:30 am) there was this girl that was eyeing me the entire team she's like a 7 tbh. Would do her but I wanted better. After some friendly banter her and her friend who are dressed up in white dresses propose a trio (they both have huge asses but one of them has a prettier face) and I ask what's the price and it's 1. 100 k that 550 k x2. Interesting. I'm like nah I'm not interested (I tried getting atrio mileroticos today. Woulda cost 700 k total) after the uglier friend leaves I kindly tell the prettier girl "hey I've noticed nones come up to talk to you. Word of advice. You did well with the bikini but don't wear a dress. It hides your ass. " Apparently she gets offended, gets closer like she's going to whisper something and grabs my neck so I can't back away. She says something like I've been to California Hawaii, Dubai and west bubble that's how I dress that's me I'm not like the other chicks. I just walk away lmao. Coo coo for coco puffs. Woulda taken her upstairs too but all I heard is "I'm proud to be a hoe getting flown everywhere ". In my head I'm like why you back in mde if people flying you out everywhere shouldn't you have a relationship already? Ah that's right she's a hoe. Hoes don't get wifed up.

Anyways. La isla always has 1 or 2 chicks I would do. So 8 or above. Like a handful of 7's which I would do if there were no 8 and I really wanted a woman's touch lmao. And like 50% of the club is like Less than 6. My standards are high.

I spend 720 k total. 550 k girl 50 k cover 50 k in 2 k bills. 70 k on drinks.

My strategy rn is if I'm feeling lazy call one of my regulars to my house. Go to la isla when I'm not feeling lazy. And venture out and find other spots. Try not to spend more than usd250 a week.

I don't think I'm going to come back to Mde tho. Everything is more expensive than Bogota, online doesn't exist and only la isla is consistently good but it is increasingly pricey. Bogota Santa Fe was where it's at. Too bad the food sucks. Pick your poison.

Sigh. Hax.

What a great feature!

If you click on a profile you can add them to your ignore list! It shrinks all of their posts to a small panel telling you it's a post from an ignored user. Then you can scroll right past the self-pitying, pathetic drivel on to actually good posters.

This is another topic, which in my opinion is all based on personal preference, personal tastes, how you like to monger, etc.

Weather is fantastic, lots of good food and drink options, and just generally nice in El Poblado / Provenza.

Medellin vs. Bogota: Medellin is easily double the cost. However, Medellin El Centro girls are $40-50 k, just like SF girls in Bogota. They take you to a short time room for 30 minutes vs. 20 minutes-ish in SF Bogota. If cheap, fairly plain looking girls (I. E. Great body, so so face) are good enough to get the job done, and sometimes they are for me, then El Centro is worth a look.

Parque Lleras / Provenza. When I was there 2 months ago, literally 100's of girls out, especially when the bars started closing down between 3-4 AM, easily 300-400 girls in the park, around the park, down Calle 10. The vast majority to my eyes were decent quality, enough to stop, chat with them, flirt, ask prices. Most were asking $400-500 k right out of the gate, but quickly came down to $300 k if it looked like a sale was going to be lost. Got lots and lots of WhatsApp numbers, through which some even offered $200-250 k, so the price will vary, especially if they think you'll come through and if they seem interested in you. As always, your mileage may vary.

Tinder worked good for me, just a lot of flakes to weed through, found a couple of gems though, with no cost other than a nice meal in a nice restaurant and taxi costs.

Like I say, it was more than fun enough for me to make a return trip. I'll probably hit La Isla and Fase II, just because.

[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2861588]I'm coming from Brazil for a short stint to Medellin. Been there years ago. Now I read everybody is upset its all bad and nothing. Should I just not bother? I used to be in Bogota in the post COVID era and it was decent. Has it really gotten so bad?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2861588]I'm coming from Brazil for a short stint to Medellin. Been there years ago. Now I read everybody is upset its all bad and nothing. Should I just not bother? I used to be in Bogota in the post COVID era and it was decent. Has it really gotten so bad?[/QUOTE]If you have pre-established connections such as repeat Facebook girls, friends of friends, and repeat barrio girls then it isn't bad at all.

Now the last few times I went to Centro I wasn't too impressed. I think once the barricades around botero plaza come down in January things will be better around Centro again.

[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2861588]I'm coming from Brazil for a short stint to Medellin. Been there years ago. Now I read everybody is upset its all bad and nothing. Should I just not bother? I used to be in Bogota in the post COVID era and it was decent. Has it really gotten so bad?[/QUOTE]Medellin is tops in Colombia- paisa girls are the most beautiful in Colombia. I personally prefer Colombian women to Brazilian, but other than that you can't beat Medellin. It's all about the game- I think the best bet in Colombia is the spas if you're older or the clubs if you've got plenty of game. The other great option is online things like Milertico, Photoprepagos, and the like. I'd say skip Medellin at your expense.

Long time Monger in Tijuana and the states (Vegas, Cali) - Finally made it back to Medellin after a non mongering trip about 8 years ago.

I guess maybe because it was a first trip for me with actual mongering and partying in mind that I enjoyed it so much, which I could understand seeing as now to me Tijuana has lost so much of it's glory for me.

My first visit to Tijuana was in 2012 and man oh man what a change 10 years makes. Prices has doubled, quality is half and it just doesn't feel the same. Having said that, I still do love it and lots of fun to be had, but it's just not what it used to be imo.

Perhaps that's what happens when you see the change in places and maybe that is why I see lots of posts that Medellin is not worth it.

To me it was great and I literally only did the parque lleras tour. Didn't even look for FB / IG? Tinder girls or visit any casas. Just did the park area and it was awesome. Lots of fun and lots of options.

For me the major pay dirt were the clubs. All the working girls go. You simply sit down, have a drink and pick out what you like! My type of setting! Got a bottle and relaxed while I had several hotties trying to make eye contact.

Most quoted 300-400 K. Had only 4 sessions during my time as it was just a weekend trip but all were good. Complete hotties. 3 were very normal aka Tijuana HK vibes with the exception there was no BS hotel rooms or extra cost for drinks etc. By basic I mean CBJ, CFS. 1 was full blown GFE. Fuckin awesome and it was the hottest one too so I think that made my trip.

I am going back in December. Quick question for the vets. This trip I went with 3 buddies so 4 of us total. This next trip will be solo. Any advice or extra concerns I should have being in that area alone? Make me more prone for a target? Clubbing isn't the same alone as with a group of friends.

[QUOTE=Nomars777;2861665]This is another topic, which in my opinion is all based on personal preference, personal tastes, how you like to monger, etc.

Weather is fantastic, lots of good food and drink options, and just generally nice in El Poblado / Provenza.

Medellin vs. Bogota: Medellin is easily double the cost. However, Medellin El Centro girls are $40-50 k, just like SF girls in Bogota. They take you to a short time room for 30 minutes vs. 20 minutes-ish in SF Bogota. If cheap, fairly plain looking girls (I. E. Great body, so so face) are good enough to get the job done, and sometimes they are for me, then El Centro is worth a look.

Parque Lleras / Provenza. When I was there 2 months ago, literally 100's of girls out, especially when the bars started closing down between 3-4 AM, easily 300-400 girls in the park, around the park, down Calle 10. The vast majority to my eyes were decent quality, enough to stop, chat with them, flirt, ask prices. Most were asking $400-500 k right out of the gate, but quickly came down to $300 k if it looked like a sale was going to be lost. Got lots and lots of WhatsApp numbers, through which some even offered $200-250 k, so the price will vary, especially if they think you'll come through and if they seem interested in you. As always, your mileage may vary.

Tinder worked good for me, just a lot of flakes to weed through, found a couple of gems though, with no cost other than a nice meal in a nice restaurant and taxi costs.

Like I say, it was more than fun enough for me to make a return trip. I'll probably hit La Isla and Fase II, just because.[/QUOTE]Thanks for rescuing the morale here!

These 500,400, 350,250 prices in the bar closing hours are for what? Don't tell me they are for an hour, right? They are for bringing them to your place and do all night, right?

I just walked through the park with those big heads and the museum on the side in el centro and there are lots of girls standing around at this afternoon hour. I noticed one girl in a white club dress and I don't know what the point is, she was allowing to let herself be hogged by some dude who stood around there like I dunno a friend or so. What is the point of standing apparently for getting customers and let some dude friend or whatever stand next to you?

This old hotel Nutibara is really well located with view on the plaza, does anyone know the protocol? Can you just walk your girl into the elevator or will these security people and bell boys stop you? Asking for ID is probably good anyway, but will there then be bitching and moaning from the front desk people? Even if a 2-person room was booked? And how about 2 girls? A King size bed is always way to big to lie in it just with one girl. Hehehe.

PS: I also recalled that lollipop girl who I saw in this plaza when I was in Medellin years ago. And today again I saw lollipop , walking out of the plaza to the south, on the left side I saw what looks like those short term hotels. And girls in front. And again one with a lollipop. Is this some sort of signal for something?

Parque Lleras girls quote the high prices and they are for a half hour or hour, depending on what you can negotiate with the girl. That said, I did run across one who originally told me $250, then came down to $100 k and she stayed with me 3 nights and 2 full days, multiple sessions across all nights and days, and in the end I gave her a grand total of $170 k and bought her a new pair of sneakers for $60 k. I almost felt bad about that, but she seemed very pleased with the final arrangement.

El Centro girls are much, much cheaper, but to my mind the quality wasn't as good. Not that there are no good looking ones, but they generally look rougher, more used up. I would walk the streets around Plaza Botero and see what you see. Lots and lots of little cantinas / bars, with girls standing on the stairs or out front, with the rooms up above. I didn't sample any of these, but the prices were the same as the ones in Plaza Botero. Again though, I ran across a girl who gave me the very best deep throat I've ever had in my life in Plaza Botero. She was as plain looking as they come, probably a 5 in my book, but her dick sucking skills were otherworldly!

I didn't look at Hotel Nutibara, but I would imagine with the location they are more than used to guys bringing girls in. Ask the door person or front desk people what the story is. They'll let you know.

[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2861715]Thanks for rescuing the morale here!

These 500,400, 350,250 prices in the bar closing hours are for what? Don't tell me they are for an hour, right? They are for bringing them to your place and do all night, right?

I just walked through the park with those big heads and the museum on the side in el centro and there are lots of girls standing around at this afternoon hour. I noticed one girl in a white club dress and I don't know what the point is, she was allowing to let herself be hogged by some dude who stood around there like I dunno a friend or so. What is the point of standing apparently for getting customers and let some dude friend or whatever stand next to you?

This old hotel Nutibara is really well located with view on the plaza, does anyone know the protocol? Can you just walk your girl into the elevator or will these security people and bell boys stop you? Asking for ID is probably good anyway, but will there then be bitching and moaning from the front desk people? Even if a 2-person room was booked? And how about 2 girls? A King size bed is always way to big to lie in it just with one girl. Hehehe.

PS: I also recalled that lollipop girl who I saw in this plaza when I was in Medellin years ago. And today again I saw lollipop , walking out of the plaza to the south, on the left side I saw what looks like those short term hotels. And girls in front. And again one with a lollipop. Is this some sort of signal for something?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2861715]...These 500,400, 350,250 prices in the bar closing hours are for what? Don't tell me they are for an hour, right? They are for bringing them to your place and do all night, right?...[/QUOTE]You are confused by different venues. The priced you listed are for girls that are in Lleras. It would be 40 mil for half hour If you see the same girl in Centro.

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[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2861715]Thanks for rescuing the morale here!

These 500,400, 350,250 prices in the bar closing hours are for what? Don't tell me they are for an hour, right? They are for bringing them to your place and do all night, right?

I just walked through the park with those big heads and the museum on the side in el centro and there are lots of girls standing around at this afternoon hour. I noticed one girl in a white club dress and I don't know what the point is, she was allowing to let herself be hogged by some dude who stood around there like I dunno a friend or so. What is the point of standing apparently for getting customers and let some dude friend or whatever stand next to you?

This old hotel Nutibara is really well located with view on the plaza, does anyone know the protocol? Can you just walk your girl into the elevator or will these security people and bell boys stop you? Asking for ID is probably good anyway, but will there then be bitching and moaning from the front desk people? Even if a 2-person room was booked? And how about 2 girls? A King size bed is always way to big to lie in it just with one girl. Hehehe.[/QUOTE]El Poblado in general caters to gringos / Europeans and other foreigners from high income countries. The girls that work there charge between 4 to 5 times the normal going rates for Colombian locals that can be found all over the country (Bogota SF, Villavicencio, Cucuta, Armenia, Pereira, Manizales, Cali, Medellíand Plaza Botero etc.)

Although I have never mongered in El Poblado (Parque Lleras / calle 10) I have fucked many girls in centro / from facebook / referrals who have told me they also work in Poblado. They usually charge 250 k for an hour (often times they will start out higher 400 k or 350 k etc. To see if they can dupe an unsophisticated foreigner into paying the higher prices, but they will agree to 250 k.

Keep in mind these same girls also work en centro in plaza botero where they fuck local parceros for only 40 k cop for a half hour. I have in fact barebacked many of them for 80 k to 100 k cop. It all depends on many factors such as how bad they need money that particular day, etc. Some girls will fuck for as low as 20 k to 30 k COP if they've been standing around all day and haven't had a customer.

From the girls I have talked to that work both venues they tend to think of Poblado as their overpaying gringo clientele. The services are more likely to be covered and 4 to 5 times more expensive than it should be. In other words el Poblado is a scam. Just like the taxistas there will try to scam you so will the girls, bars, restaurants, etc. That's how it is in any tourist area anywhere in the world.

Your best bet is to use a mixture of Centro and Facebook.

I have often had amanecidas (all nighters) for 300 k COP in Medellin and in Bogotá and those are BBFS MSOG amanecidas.

There is a lot of information in this forum on hotel nutibarra. Osteoknot used to stay there all the time and posted frequently about that hotel. Just use the search function and RTFF.

Gabacho.

[QUOTE=SlickVick0303;2861696]Long time Monger in Tijuana and the states (Vegas, Cali) - Finally made it back to Medellin after a non mongering trip about 8 years ago.

I guess maybe because it was a first trip for me with actual mongering and partying in mind that I enjoyed it so much, which I could understand seeing as now to me Tijuana has lost so much of it's glory for me.

My first visit to Tijuana was in 2012 and man oh man what a change 10 years makes. Prices has doubled, quality is half and it just doesn't feel the same. Having said that, I still do love it and lots of fun to be had, but it's just not what it used to be imo.

Perhaps that's what happens when you see the change in places and maybe that is why I see lots of posts that Medellin is not worth it.

To me it was great and I literally only did the parque lleras tour. Didn't even look for FB / IG? Tinder girls or visit any casas. Just did the park area and it was awesome. Lots of fun and lots of options.

For me the major pay dirt were the clubs. All the working girls go. You simply sit down, have a drink and pick out what you like! My type of setting! Got a bottle and relaxed while I had several hotties trying to make eye contact.

Most quoted 300-400 K. Had only 4 sessions during my time as it was just a weekend trip but all were good. Complete hotties. 3 were very normal aka Tijuana HK vibes with the exception there was no BS hotel rooms or extra cost for drinks etc. By basic I mean CBJ, CFS. 1 was full blown GFE. Fuckin awesome and it was the hottest one too so I think that made my trip.

I am going back in December. Quick question for the vets. This trip I went with 3 buddies so 4 of us total. This next trip will be solo. Any advice or extra concerns I should have being in that area alone? Make me more prone for a target? Clubbing isn't the same alone as with a group of friends.[/QUOTE]Don't wear jewelry, don't expose cell phone, carry only enough money that you need at that particular time, don't walk the streets intoxicated, stay out of deserted areas, monitor your drinks closely and you should be fine.

How does Gusto's compare to Hong Kong?

[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2861715]Thanks for rescuing the morale here!

These 500,400, 350,250 prices in the bar closing hours are for what? Don't tell me they are for an hour, right? They are for bringing them to your place and do all night, right?

I just walked through the park with those big heads and the museum on the side in el centro and there are lots of girls standing around at this afternoon hour. I noticed one girl in a white club dress and I don't know what the point is, she was allowing to let herself be hogged by some dude who stood around there like I dunno a friend or so. What is the point of standing apparently for getting customers and let some dude friend or whatever stand next to you?

This old hotel Nutibara is really well located with view on the plaza, does anyone know the protocol? Can you just walk your girl into the elevator or will these security people and bell boys stop you? Asking for ID is probably good anyway, but will there then be bitching and moaning from the front desk people? Even if a 2-person room was booked? And how about 2 girls? A King size bed is always way to big to lie in it just with one girl. Hehehe.

PS: I also recalled that lollipop girl who I saw in this plaza when I was in Medellin years ago. And today again I saw lollipop , walking out of the plaza to the south, on the left side I saw what looks like those short term hotels. And girls in front. And again one with a lollipop. Is this some sort of signal for something?[/QUOTE]You need to negotiate the time frame with the girl, but assume it's 1 pop or an hour unless stated otherwise.

Nutibara does card in my experience and limit is typically two people unless you booked 3 (they'll sometimes charge more as it includes breakfast). They usually have a couple doormen late at night to help look out for you.

I believe my room had a Queen, but may have been a King. It's worth upgrading to the bigger room with balcony for $10 more / night.

I am the happiest of campers right now and I will leave those El Poblado divas to you alright. I mean what the fuck are you doing paying 500 mil pesos for a fucking half hour! Are you absolutely insane? This is right out criminal behavior as you leave the mongering world damaged forever paying such prices! May your karma get you and put you for life in sex prison! I mean, seriously guys, are you fucking insane?!

Look, 500 mil pesos is like 100 dollars, 500 Brazilian real, for this you ought to get AT LEAST 1 hour with a high class girl who has a genuine Twitter profile offering either stunning beauty or special skills or both. Not a street ho, who probably came down from centro where they were during the day! They come down and you spoil them. This is making me so angry ... if I wasn't so happy right now.

And then this whining about centro, like one dude here saying "there are only 5 girls left here" -- ridiculous! Fucking ridiculous! There are tons of girls out there right now. They all remind me of my lollipop girl from years ago, quite young, possibly pregnant, and with braces, which to me is always a bonus, braces are so cute. Yes they do look a bit used up. And to tell you the truth I haven't started with them yet.

I just had a session with two girls who I connected with online, and I am the happiest of campers in Medellin today for sure. They made me happy. They were sweet. They gave me their little pierced tongues in ever which way, and I already know I will have them back here overnight. This was heaven. This was my best threesome experience ever, including Brazil. And OK, it might only be my third or fourth. What was absolutely lovely was that they did me bare back. I didn't even ask. Doing my iodine treatment just now to keep clean. But since I always dig my face deep into their little pussies to taste I could certify myself that they were clean. Doing a threesome bareback really opens up a whole new world, as the worst annoyance about threesomes is the constant change of condom. All they asked me was not to come inside, because they don't even take the pill. My crazy mind was already thinking about impregnating two little princesses on one day and then take them with me to take care of. What a dream. Haha. Hey, a nightmare is also a dream, so, I am right, am I not?

When I leave from here I will leave you with the contact of this pair. But not yet, because depending on how everything else goes, I intend to have them over for a few more times. I'll take them out to the club one night, then we go back to do the deed and sleep all cuddled up. And who knows, if we hit it off, I will take them and their kids to some amusement park one day. I love relationships you know.

Colombia still has it, now even an edge over Brazil in my memories. Medellin is good, because it's smaller than Bogota. And (hopefully soon), warmer and sunnier too.

PS: Nutibara, at this hour of the morning, didn't have the security guy so much in the way. I picked them up a bit away from the door, so the three of us walked up and I headed straight for the elevator. Nobody was hollering me or stopped me. Despite the fact that they were dressed a bit skimpy, so my idea to tell them they were my students wouldn't have flown. I do have a big room with terrace, and there is a couch and two armchairs, I mean, how would one need such furniture if they limit day guests? Overnight, I will actually also push back, because I am very dissatisfied with that breakfast. I buy all my stuff from D1 that's right downstairs, so I won't need their stupid breakfast. I mean, really, they have hardly anything there and you can't serve yourself, so you have to constantly wait for these servers to serve you, they still use the stupid facemask and gloves, it is so annoying! But I don't care, better to have breakfast in bed anyway, especially with two cuddly girls.

PPS: The hotel internet is blocking internationalsexguide.nl, go figure! So need the TunnelBear or something to get through. By the way, in India and Thailand the TunnelBear doesn't work, they are blocking even (international) VPNs. This can be a problem.

I've never seen better more concise advice about how to move in Medellin.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2861866]Don't wear jewelry, don't expose cell phone, carry only enough money that you need at that particular time, don't walk the streets intoxicated, stay out of deserted areas, monitor your drinks closely and you should be fine.

How does Gusto's compare to Hong Kong?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SlickVick0303;2861696]Long time Monger in Tijuana and the states (Vegas, Cali) - Finally made it back to Medellin after a non mongering trip about 8 years ago.

I guess maybe because it was a first trip for me with actual mongering and partying in mind that I enjoyed it so much, which I could understand seeing as now to me Tijuana has lost so much of it's glory for me.

My first visit to Tijuana was in 2012 and man oh man what a change 10 years makes. Prices has doubled, quality is half and it just doesn't feel the same. Having said that, I still do love it and lots of fun to be had, but it's just not what it used to be imo.

Perhaps that's what happens when you see the change in places and maybe that is why I see lots of posts that Medellin is not worth it.

To me it was great and I literally only did the parque lleras tour. Didn't even look for FB / IG? Tinder girls or visit any casas. Just did the park area and it was awesome. Lots of fun and lots of options.

For me the major pay dirt were the clubs. All the working girls go. You simply sit down, have a drink and pick out what you like! My type of setting! Got a bottle and relaxed while I had several hotties trying to make eye contact.

Most quoted 300-400 K. Had only 4 sessions during my time as it was just a weekend trip but all were good. Complete hotties. 3 were very normal aka Tijuana HK vibes with the exception there was no BS hotel rooms or extra cost for drinks etc. By basic I mean CBJ, CFS. 1 was full blown GFE. Fuckin awesome and it was the hottest one too so I think that made my trip.

I am going back in December. Quick question for the vets. This trip I went with 3 buddies so 4 of us total. This next trip will be solo. Any advice or extra concerns I should have being in that area alone? Make me more prone for a target? Clubbing isn't the same alone as with a group of friends.[/QUOTE]Thanks fo rthe information. What clubs would you recommend? Thanks.

Gentlemen,

Taormina is a hotel / casino with a couple of bars that is self contained, meaning nice enough hotel to stay in and the girls come there to hang out and gladly go to your room. You don't have to leave the premises to get your dreams fullfilled. Is there any similar setup in Medellin? Never been there and looking for a soft entry until I get a better lay of the land.

Gracias.

Other than mileroticos any areas where streetwalkers or massage girls are available for long term take out?

I threw a report up in Case Blanca for those interested. I am hearing good things about the upcoming Halloween party from the girls. I saw some decorations arriving last night. Let's see. Otherwise the place seems to be taking a turn.

[QUOTE=BlanLocal;2861958]I threw a report up in Case Blanca for those interested. I am hearing good things about the upcoming Halloween party from the girls. I saw some decorations arriving last night. Let's see. Otherwise the place seems to be taking a turn.[/QUOTE]I never made it there because of their stupid reservation system, not even having WhatsApp. But anyway, do tell, what prices are girls there quoting for rapid one (30 min), the one hour (1 h), longer (2 or 3 h), and all-nighter? Just to know that this is also insanely inflated so I never even think of going there.

And just to rub it in, the session I had was 200 mil each girl for 2 hours, without any negotiation on my part. If you give anyone 500 mil fucking pesos for a fucking quickie from a street walker, you should be summarily ex...tradited into sex prison land. Don't call yerself "passport bros" or shit like that and come to South America to make this another sex prison.

And by the way, this is not something that can't be reversed. If y'all just stop paying such prices (that goes for Brazil as well, where I have been hearing such ridiculous prices from Scandallo in SP, for example), then they come down quickly. I have a very special princess I tried to pull out (capt'n save-a-ho that I am), she was with $$ in her eyes telling me she was now VIP and pulled 200 BRL an hour. And now I see her back at 150. And the person who sets this prices is business savvy, so I know, if she could ratchet up price, she would.

[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2861912]I am the happiest of campers right now and I will leave those El Poblado divas to you alright. I mean what the fuck are you doing paying 500 mil pesos for a fucking half hour! Are you absolutely insane? This is right out criminal behavior as you leave the mongering world damaged forever paying such prices! May your karma get you and put you for life in sex prison! I mean, seriously guys, are you fucking insane?!

Look, 500 mil pesos is like 100 dollars, 500 Brazilian real, for this you ought to get AT LEAST 1 hour with a high class girl who has a genuine Twitter profile offering either stunning beauty or special skills or both. Not a street ho, who probably came down from centro where they were during the day! They come down and you spoil them. This is making me so angry ... if I wasn't so happy right now.

And then this whining about centro, like one dude here saying "there are only 5 girls left here" -- ridiculous! Fucking ridiculous! There are tons of girls out there right now. They all remind me of my lollipop girl from years ago, quite young, possibly pregnant, and with braces, which to me is always a bonus, braces are so cute. Yes they do look a bit used up. And to tell you the truth I haven't started with them yet.

I just had a session with two girls who I connected with online, and I am the happiest of campers in Medellin today for sure. They made me happy. They were sweet. They gave me their little pierced tongues in ever which way, and I already know I will have them back here overnight. This was heaven. This was my best threesome experience ever, including Brazil. And OK, it might only be my third or fourth. What was absolutely lovely was that they did me bare back. I didn't even ask. Doing my iodine treatment just now to keep clean. But since I always dig my face deep into their little pussies to taste I could certify myself that they were clean. Doing a threesome bareback really opens up a whole new world, as the worst annoyance about threesomes is the constant change of condom. All they asked me was not to come inside, because they don't even take the pill. My crazy mind was already thinking about impregnating two little princesses on one day and then take them with me to take care of. What a dream. Haha. Hey, a nightmare is also a dream, so, I am right, am I not?

When I leave from here I will leave you with the contact of this pair. But not yet, because depending on how everything else goes, I intend to have them over for a few more times. I'll take them out to the club one night, then we go back to do the deed and sleep all cuddled up. And who knows, if we hit it off, I will take them and their kids to some amusement park one day. I love relationships you know.

Colombia still has it, now even an edge over Brazil in my memories. Medellin is good, because it's smaller than Bogota. And (hopefully soon), warmer and sunnier too.

PS: Nutibara, at this hour of the morning, didn't have the security guy so much in the way. I picked them up a bit away from the door, so the three of us walked up and I headed straight for the elevator. Nobody was hollering me or stopped me. Despite the fact that they were dressed a bit skimpy, so my idea to tell them they were my students wouldn't have flown. I do have a big room with terrace, and there is a couch and two armchairs, I mean, how would one need such furniture if they limit day guests? Overnight, I will actually also push back, because I am very dissatisfied with that breakfast. I buy all my stuff from D1 that's right downstairs, so I won't need their stupid breakfast. I mean, really, they have hardly anything there and you can't serve yourself, so you have to constantly wait for these servers to serve you, they still use the stupid facemask and gloves, it is so annoying! But I don't care, better to have breakfast in bed anyway, especially with two cuddly girls.

PPS: The hotel internet is blocking internationalsexguide.nl, go figure! So need the TunnelBear or something to get through. By the way, in India and Thailand the TunnelBear doesn't work, they are blocking even (international) VPNs. This can be a problem.[/QUOTE]Excelente Report bro!! Glad to see you are enjoying yourself in El Centro. If you don't mind my asking how much did the BBFS twins charge for the three-sum? I myself am not into three-sums, but if they charge a fair rate I may want to see them one at a time. Feel free to PM their WhatsApp numbers when you are done with them. I also have some I'd be willing to trade.

-Gabacho.

[QUOTE=MoonShot;2861545]I haven't have the same experience with Facebook girls in Medellin but I have been focused exclusively on Facebook girls for six trips now. With some time and effort, you can avoid the scammers and unattractive girls. There are a number of young attractive girls available on Facebook for a reasonable price. You just have to take the time to screen the girls and find the good ones. I would agree if you don't have the time before your trip, don't go on Facebook looking for girls. You do have to pay for transport because they tend to live in Bello but you can pay for the taxi when it arrives at your place and not in advance. So far no girl has not looked like their pictures on their FB profile. I have been impressed with with the quality of the girls that I have found on FB and their performance in bed. But to each, his own and you should do what you think is right for you.[/QUOTE]Interested to hear from yourself or others on what a successful FB messaging strategy looks like. Just a friendly greeting to start? Or jump straight to the request? Wondering how aggressive and blatant you should be to get both a response and a meetup. Any "template" message tips appreciated.

[QUOTE=SlickVick0303;2861696]Long time Monger in Tijuana and the states (Vegas, Cali) - Finally made it back to Medellin after a non mongering trip about 8 years ago.

I guess maybe because it was a first trip for me with actual mongering and partying in mind that I enjoyed it so much, which I could understand seeing as now to me Tijuana has lost so much of it's glory for me.

My first visit to Tijuana was in 2012 and man oh man what a change 10 years makes. Prices has doubled, quality is half and it just doesn't feel the same. Having said that, I still do love it and lots of fun to be had, but it's just not what it used to be imo.

Perhaps that's what happens when you see the change in places and maybe that is why I see lots of posts that Medellin is not worth it.

To me it was great and I literally only did the parque lleras tour. Didn't even look for FB / IG? Tinder girls or visit any casas. Just did the park area and it was awesome. Lots of fun and lots of options.

For me the major pay dirt were the clubs. All the working girls go. You simply sit down, have a drink and pick out what you like! My type of setting! Got a bottle and relaxed while I had several hotties trying to make eye contact.

Most quoted 300-400 K. Had only 4 sessions during my time as it was just a weekend trip but all were good. Complete hotties. 3 were very normal aka Tijuana HK vibes with the exception there was no BS hotel rooms or extra cost for drinks etc. By basic I mean CBJ, CFS. 1 was full blown GFE. Fuckin awesome and it was the hottest one too so I think that made my trip.

I am going back in December. Quick question for the vets. This trip I went with 3 buddies so 4 of us total. This next trip will be solo. Any advice or extra concerns I should have being in that area alone? Make me more prone for a target? Clubbing isn't the same alone as with a group of friends.[/QUOTE]Yo I love the club atmostphere too. Tahts what I loved about cartagena.

Is there any other clubs besides gustos that you visited in medeliln that just had working girls lined upi?

I want to visit Medellin for a few days. Could anyone advise?

1) Daytime casas to visit. I saw the map. Could anyone recomend a paticular borthels with young-slim talants?

2) Are there night clubs "must to see"? And I need an area, something like Santa Fe, where there are several good clubs in the same location.

3) Daytime, Is there area / place where there are many chicks kind of Santa Fe? Many chicks in the same location?

Thanks in advance.

Your cause is noble but it will never work because you'll never reach enough guys here that are willing to do their part in keeping prices down. With every trip I take Colombians are getting better and better at gaming foreigners, whether it's businesses trying to steal change, hotels padding bills at checkout when they know you are in a hurry to get to the airport, or attempts to way overcharge foreigners for service or extras at strip clubs or Mileroticos appointments, etc.

There's also a new game they have going where when you call their bullshit suddenly they don't understand Spanish anyone, you get the pitiful dumb looks and the "como asi. " Or some casa girls will start stalling and asking stupid questions when you get a good erection and are ready to go in. The aim is to deflate then they can claim "no duro" with the aim of getting paid without having to fuck you. Yea that's unusual but common enough to where it must be deliberate.

But on a recent trip two guys in their 30's from the UK chatted me up in Fase Dos though I didn't really care to speak with them. They said they were giving Facebook girls 500 mil. I politely told them that were paying more than is necessary, and they were clearly offended and that ended our chit chat. I'm personally switching back to Costa Rica for two one week trips a year which is all that I need at my age. It is decidedly safer, more user friendly, and with better food.

BTW it is beyond me why any US citizen would want to live in the 3rd World. Access to low priced prostitution isn't worth all that goes with it, like corrupt institutions, no law and order or human rights, and typically sub par food just for starters. There's a reason why the guys in the expat forums are constantly complaining but they are too lazy to go home. Or maybe they can't for one reason for another.

Asking for a friend. What are the best times of day to find the most chicas aside and behind Veracruz along carrera 53 and in front of the yellow restaurant? And how about best / worst days of the week? TIA.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2861866]Don't wear jewelry, don't expose cell phone, carry only enough money that you need at that particular time, don't walk the streets intoxicated, stay out of deserted areas, monitor your drinks closely and you should be fine.[/QUOTE]Very concise as exactly the opposite as to how a lot of gringos conduct themselves in Poblado.

However you failed to mention how to dress in Poblado as I recently witnessed, typically shorts with a T shirt that says you have lots of money and a big dick. LOL.

[QUOTE=MoonShot;2861545]I haven't have the same experience with Facebook girls in Medellin but I have been focused exclusively on Facebook girls for six trips now. With some time and effort, you can avoid the scammers and unattractive girls. There are a number of young attractive girls available on Facebook for a reasonable price. You just have to take the time to screen the girls and find the good ones. I would agree if you don't have the time before your trip, don't go on Facebook looking for girls. You do have to pay for transport because they tend to live in Bello but you can pay for the taxi when it arrives at your place and not in advance. So far no girl has not looked like their pictures on their FB profile. I have been impressed with with the quality of the girls that I have found on FB and their performance in bed. But to each, his own and you should do what you think is right for you.[/QUOTE]Yes there are some good ones on Facebook but a lot of flaking out. Many never converse long enough to set an appointment and likewise many no show. Far from all are in Bello but a lot are.

Then again you've been quick to tell others that you'll pay what you please, so if you are offering 500 to 600 mil for one milk and no bareback required, then no doubt they will all come running. And of course you'll claim none of that is so, but the readers can read between the lines.

P.S. Your typical FB prepago is the definition of lazy, and the more money you give her the longer it will take before she wants to work again. They only work broke, proof is in the fact that you almost always have to run down and pay for their ride when they arrive. For me they are too unreliable for a go to plan, though I've used them on every trip.

[QUOTE=RamblingRickey;2861933]Gentlemen,

Taormina is a hotel / casino with a couple of bars that is self contained, meaning nice enough hotel to stay in and the girls come there to hang out and gladly go to your room. You don't have to leave the premises to get your dreams fullfilled. Is there any similar setup in Medellin? Never been there and looking for a soft entry until I get a better lay of the land.

Gracias.[/QUOTE]Check the Casa Blanca forum in this same Colombia section. It is what you are seeking. Regulars call it 'The Mansion'. Well, except for 'nice' as it has seen better days, but regulars love it (including myself).

I never got any problems with girls on facebook. I like only young and sexy ladies between 18 till 25. Most of the girls ask me 250/300 but I always ask them before to fuck them barebck and they all accept this with extra money. Usually I pay 400/500 bareback and CIP. Right now I speak on facebook with another girl from Bello and I can say she's the most beautiful girl of Colombia for me. She's really sexy, abd she loves sex I think! But I never meet her for the moment, because she's only 17. I'm waiting she's 18 to meet her, I don't want any problems with that?

Last time when I was in Medellin, she told me she's ok and she wants meet me for 500 with bareback but I refused only because of her age. She told me to book a private flat, because she can' got hotels but I refused again. She told me it's not a problem in Colombia she met many men before but I totally refused. I told her we'll meet she when she's 18. I can wait few months more for that!

But she's so fucking sexy. And I really think she loves sex and money!

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2862094]Yes there are some good ones on Facebook but a lot of flaking out. Many never converse long enough to set an appointment and likewise many no show. Far from all are in Bello but a lot are.

Then again you've been quick to tell others that you'll pay what you please, so if you are offering 500 to 600 mil for one milk and no bareback required, then no doubt they will all come running. And of course you'll claim none of that is so, but the readers can read between the lines.

P.S. Your typical FB prepago is the definition of lazy, and the more money you give her the longer it will take before she wants to work again. They only work broke, proof is in the fact that you almost always have to run down and pay for their ride when they arrive. For me they are too unreliable for a go to plan, though I've used them on every trip.[/QUOTE]

Beginning 3 PM, basically it is when the sun starts to go down.

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2862088]Asking for a friend. What are the best times of day to find the most chicas aside and behind Veracruz along carrera 53 and in front of the yellow restaurant? And how about best / worst days of the week? TIA.[/QUOTE]

Scandallo and price control do not belong in the same sentence.

[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2861963]I never made it there because of their stupid reservation system, not even having WhatsApp. But anyway, do tell, what prices are girls there quoting for rapid one (30 min), the one hour (1 h), longer (2 or 3 h), and all-nighter? Just to know that this is also insanely inflated so I never even think of going there.

And just to rub it in, the session I had was 200 mil each girl for 2 hours, without any negotiation on my part. If you give anyone 500 mil fucking pesos for a fucking quickie from a street walker, you should be summarily ex...tradited into sex prison land. Don't call yerself "passport bros" or shit like that and come to South America to make this another sex prison.

And by the way, this is not something that can't be reversed. If y'all just stop paying such prices (that goes for Brazil as well, where I have been hearing such ridiculous prices from Scandallo in SP, for example), then they come down quickly. I have a very special princess I tried to pull out (capt'n save-a-ho that I am), she was with $$ in her eyes telling me she was now VIP and pulled 200 BRL an hour. And now I see her back at 150. And the person who sets this prices is business savvy, so I know, if she could ratchet up price, she would.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2862088]Asking for a friend. What are the best times of day to find the most chicas aside and behind Veracruz along carrera 53 and in front of the yellow restaurant? And how about best / worst days of the week? TIA.[/QUOTE]If you talk about that plaza, then I can tell from my observation that during the weekdays before dark is probably the best time. Friday and Saturday it ebbs, Sunday is probably the low point. All of that is to be expected.

And I won't even get to sample those park girls because I am sticking to my two little princesses. They are so cute and keep messaging me during the day, the overnight they were fine about 19:30 to 11 in the morning. No stress at all. If we get along for such a long time, we will go for even longer. Perhaps I rent a minivan, put both girls and their kids into it and we might drive to Cartagena to the beach or something. All they need to do is keep me happy by exuding their sweetness on me and I won't need anything else. Too good to be true? Well, if you stop hearing from me, then I probably was kidnapped.

Saw this mature on Passion Prepago and I saved her number. Planning a trip down the line but I recently tried to look her up but it seems she's disappeared. Anyone seen her or know if she's still in business? Her whatsapp is xxxxxx 517.

[QUOTE=CK465;2862231]Saw this mature on Passion Prepago and I saved her number. Planning a trip down the line but I recently tried to look her up but it seems she's disappeared. Anyone seen her or know if she's still in business? Her whatsapp is xxxxxx 517.[/QUOTE]They aren't available. Not her specifically but if you don't see the profile she's just not available. They often do this. Either they quit or They are not in bigots or Medellin for various reasons. Some girls travel around the country others go to different countries others get a kid outside of this others get sugar daddies. Have seen some many I wanted to see in Medellin or Bogota months in advanced. I get to where they are and they don't exist anymore. Maybe they'll get active again. Has happened. I've seen it. Mate they don't. At thi point look at your options and go with the best ones you know will pull through. And looking at all of online there's not that many anymore. Excluding facebook.

Hey everyone,

New to the space and wanting to plan for my upcoming trip. I've always wanted to hook up with a pornstar and was wondering if there is a website where I can find pornstars working out of Medellin. Rather through an agency or just a listing similar to what you see on Eros.

Thanks!

And overpriced crack whooors LOL.

Who the hell is raping them? I'm guessing that's what they call it when they don't get the customers money whether theyve even earned it or not.

[URL]https://nypost.com/2023/10/23/inside-los-angeles-sex-market-where-women-sell-sex-for-40/?utm_source=gmail&utm_campaign=android_nyp[/URL]

The article doesn't mention police policy towards the customers? Has that changed also?

I had the overnight with my two princesses. The cute thing was she was constantly messaging me all day yesterday, I felt a connection. When they were with me, I felt a disconnection. I obviously played with having a crush on the other, more quiet, a bit prettier, smaller girl. 19 years old. I had a weird feeling how she on the one hand did everything to make me feel happy, even made a connection that appeared deep looking into my eyes. But I noticed that it was all just an act, played by someone who did it all perfectly conscious about her doing an act. I tried to give her some sexual feelings to an orgasm too, in the ways that I know works to whom is receptive. But there was nothing at all. Completely closed off. I made it all worth the money, and the connection or failed attempt at it was very enlightening. After I saw them off, she messaged me again and we exchanged sincere messages of mutual gratitude. But I said we probably wouldn't meet any more because I don't want to feel as if I am forcing myself on her little friend.

By the way, about Nutibara policies I can tell you now.

Before 8 pm you can bring girls up to your room and they won't be very strict. YMMV. After 8 pm they do stop you and will strictly not allow two girls in your room. No whining or extra charge can change that. The only solution they offered me was to get another room -- the cheapest was 150 mil pesos. That's how I got both of them in. So now you know.

[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2862462]I tried to give her some sexual feelings to an orgasm too, in the ways that I know works to whom is receptive. But there was nothing at all. Completely closed off. I made it all worth the money, and the connection or failed attempt at it was very enlightening. After I saw them off, she messaged me again and we exchanged sincere messages of mutual gratitude. But I said we probably wouldn't meet any more because I don't want to feel as if I am forcing myself on her little friend.[/QUOTE]You wrote it, but it seems you are not realizing that YOU ARE PAYING. So what is with all the romanticizing and hoping for something more?

[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2861963]I never made it there because of their stupid reservation system, not even having WhatsApp. But anyway, do tell, what prices are girls there quoting for rapid one (30 min), the one hour (1 h), longer (2 or 3 h), and all-nighter? Just to know that this is also insanely inflated so I never even think of going there.

And just to rub it in, the session I had was 200 mil each girl for 2 hours, without any negotiation on my part. If you give anyone 500 mil fucking pesos for a fucking quickie from a street walker, you should be summarily ex...tradited into sex prison land. Don't call yerself "passport bros" or shit like that and come to South America to make this another sex prison.

And by the way, this is not something that can't be reversed. If y'all just stop paying such prices (that goes for Brazil as well, where I have been hearing such ridiculous prices from Scandallo in SP, for example), then they come down quickly. I have a very special princess I tried to pull out (capt'n save-a-ho that I am), she was with $$ in her eyes telling me she was now VIP and pulled 200 BRL an hour. And now I see her back at 150. And the person who sets this prices is business savvy, so I know, if she could ratchet up price, she would.[/QUOTE]Mansion girls are all 300,000. It considered short time, but I've never had a girl there watch the clock. Most just want to party. And some even stay the night if its late from the club and the vibe is right. In that case I've paid them to leave. It used to be 250 K a couple of months ago. But now the "union stewardess" tells all the girls 300 K and condom only. But each girl still makes her own decision. The problem is most of the regular girls there know each other well and they get mad when new one comes in and goes cheaper or does no condom. So now they're trying to get them all on the same page. But the smart ones make their own deal and stay quiet.

Me personally, I have never paid more than 300 K for any girl in Colombia. At the Mansion I often just get numbers cause some girls come one night, see that there's not many guys and they don't return. I had girls there do BBBJ, anal and CIM for 300 K. But they want and get the repeat business from me. Park Lleras, same thing. I find the girl, get the number and schedule them to come to the Mansion in the day time. Most are 200-250 K.

Regular non-pro girls are fun for me. Either new ones that come in from the Provinces to make money for the first time. You can spot them. Or even just regular non working girls here in Colombia are fun. Usually meet them at coffee shop or the mall. I've got a new one that is an International Business student. She travels between Nova Scotia and Medellin. Speaks good English and comes from some money. It's refreshing to have girls who when they leave call for their own Uber. LOL.

Juliet. I can't find her ad anymore, but I just saw her yesterday. [blue][Telephone Number deleted by Admin][/blue]. Poblado area calle 19. I walked home and it wasn't too far.

The incall was nice, but you needed ID to get in. I didn't bring mine with me. But she called the guard and he let me up. Confusing how to get to her apartment from the parking garage. There were other girls working in another bedroom. She had very little English, but we got by with her bad English and my bad Spanish.

23 years old, great woman's body, not to thin just right. 200 K for 1 hour. Let me go twice. BBBJ, but did not allow touching of the kitty. Kissing but not really enthusiastic, but I would repeat.

My hotel is near the park, but I haven't tried one of them. For 200 K at a nice apartment it seems like a better deal, you guys are saying the park girls want more than that. Plus it is fairly embarrassing to me to bring a girl back and go up to the front desk with her. I'll do it, but I don't like it.

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Just went to Davivienda this afternoon and pulled $1'800'000 COP and I was charged $424.64 USD to my Capital One account. This amounts to an exchange rate of $4238.89 COP per USD.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDcIus3zO2c[/URL]

Spent three weeks in Medellin, stayed at a hotel near the Veracruz area. What a time! Thought I'd give a few tips to people who want to go into the what can feel sketchier areas:

1. don't be clearly white (like, you can be, but you'll stand out). I can just about pass.

2. don't look around like you're a tourist, imagine you were walking to your house around the corner.

3. hoodies are good, but be prepared to get stopped and searched, happened to me twice.

4. the more exposure you have, the easier and more experienced you become.

5. but this experience can make you complacent. Don't get complacent.

6. if a girl is in a group, pull her away a little.

7. google translate is fine, but watch your phone.

8. keep your wallet ideally in a zipped pocket or hidden.

I've never had anything bad happen to me and I've been doing this for years, but that doesn't mean it won't. So keep your financial downside low, cheap phones, not all your cards, etc.

Had some really hot spinners this time. 40-50 k each, always tipped well if they did well. Enjoy!

Heading to Medillin during thanksgiving. How do I get started on FB game. Any existing connections please DM.

[QUOTE=Sun08;2862492][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDcIus3zO2c[/URL][/QUOTE]Go to the movies Sound of Freedom, Sonido the Libertad, Som the Liberdade. Good movie. They deserve getting a lot of ticket sales.

Solid advice, the don't be white thing is maybe harder than it sounds. Now that the Centro floor is closer to 40 k than 30 k the delta between the streets and the casas of Centro is just about gone once you pay the 8 k to 15 k hotel. The only thing that separates the two scenes is convenience. In casas you get to sit in a sheltered space rather than walk or sit in the open air while you make your selections.

[QUOTE=KindAn;2862493]Spent three weeks in Medellin, stayed at a hotel near the Veracruz area. What a time! Thought I'd give a few tips to people who want to go into the what can feel sketchier areas:

1. don't be clearly white (like, you can be, but you'll stand out). I can just about pass.

2. don't look around like you're a tourist, imagine you were walking to your house around the corner.

3. hoodies are good, but be prepared to get stopped and searched, happened to me twice.

4. the more exposure you have, the easier and more experienced you become.

5. but this experience can make you complacent. Don't get complacent.

6. if a girl is in a group, pull her away a little.

7. google translate is fine, but watch your phone.

8. keep your wallet ideally in a zipped pocket or hidden.

I've never had anything bad happen to me and I've been doing this for years, but that doesn't mean it won't. So keep your financial downside low, cheap phones, not all your cards, etc.

Had some really hot spinners this time. 40-50 k each, always tipped well if they did well. Enjoy![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2861184]Tourists (travelers who stay 180 days or less in one calendar year) are not supposed to have to pay the VAT tax. The one and only time I stayed at the Mansion, they charged a VAT tax and would not take it off even after I questioned it. They claimed the exemption only applies to new hotels, which is pure BS.[/QUOTE]In fairness, the Mansion gives you the option of paying in cash and the tax is not charged.

[QUOTE=Akbxv7;2862495]Heading to Medillin during thanksgiving. How do I get started on FB game. Any existing connections please DM.[/QUOTE]You need to keep searching using location as Medellin. This requires time and effort and talking to the girls also. I can send me you few contacts. DM me.

400/500 for bareback and CIP? Nooooo. I like the same type of girls. I rarely go with hardened pros any more, but use semi-pros and have a few non-pros. Even with the semi-pros, I'm paying 200 max and that assume BBBJ and BBFS. In fact, the only girls I would cover for are the hardened pros, because I don't want to risk them. I could live with 250 for a girl I really like, but that would include everything. No upsell. You can pay what you want, but for those of you who are newer and are willing to put in some effort, there is NO NEED To pay these kind of prices. I am not into fat and / or ugly girls. I am also not into plastic / overly made-up girls, so what I pay gets me a pretty decent looking girl with a nice body, good attitude, and good service (if not, they are not seen again).

[QUOTE=Gilolo;2862185]I never got any problems with girls on facebook. I like only young and sexy ladies between 18 till 25. Most of the girls ask me 250/300 but I always ask them before to fuck them barebck and they all accept this with extra money. Usually I pay 400/500 bareback and CIP. Right now I speak on facebook with another girl from Bello and I can say she's the most beautiful girl of Colombia for me. She's really sexy, abd she loves sex I think! But I never meet her for the moment, because she's only 17. I'm waiting she's 18 to meet her, I don't want any problems with that?

Last time when I was in Medellin, she told me she's ok and she wants meet me for 500 with bareback but I refused only because of her age. She told me to book a private flat, because she can' got hotels but I refused again. She told me it's not a problem in Colombia she met many men before but I totally refused. I told her we'll meet she when she's 18. I can wait few months more for that!

But she's so fucking sexy. And I really think she loves sex and money![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2862735]400/500 for bareback and CIP? Nooooo. I like the same type of girls. I rarely go with hardened pros any more, but use semi-pros and have a few non-pros. Even with the semi-pros, I'm paying 200 max and that assume BBBJ and BBFS. In fact, the only girls I would cover for are the hardened pros, because I don't want to risk them. I could live with 250 for a girl I really like, but that would include everything. No upsell. You can pay what you want, but for those of you who are newer and are willing to put in some effort, there is NO NEED To pay these kind of prices. I am not into fat and / or ugly girls. I am also not into plastic / overly made-up girls, so what I pay gets me a pretty decent looking girl with a nice body, good attitude, and good service (if not, they are not seen again).[/QUOTE]Just got back from MDE and what ColombiaLover says is right. I paid the same prices and got the same service without having to leave the comfort of my airbnb. Great time great girls. I read the forum before leaving and was kinda nervous about all the reports of no good-looking girls. But, as I walked the streets and areas and looked on facebook all my fears disappeared. Until Feb enjoy all.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2862735]400/500 for bareback and CIP? Nooooo. I like the same type of girls. I rarely go with hardened pros any more, but use semi-pros and have a few non-pros. Even with the semi-pros, I'm paying 200 max and that assume BBBJ and BBFS. In fact, the only girls I would cover for are the hardened pros, because I don't want to risk them. I could live with 250 for a girl I really like, but that would include everything. No upsell. You can pay what you want, but for those of you who are newer and are willing to put in some effort, there is NO NEED To pay these kind of prices. I am not into fat and / or ugly girls. I am also not into plastic / overly made-up girls, so what I pay gets me a pretty decent looking girl with a nice body, good attitude, and good service (if not, they are not seen again).[/QUOTE]I have the same approach and my starting offer for FB girls is usually 200 mil plus transport but I am willing to go to 250 mil plus transport. I also prefer semi-pros and avoid experienced pros.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2861866]Don't wear jewelry, don't expose cell phone, carry only enough money that you need at that particular time, don't walk the streets intoxicated, stay out of deserted areas, monitor your drinks closely and you should be fine.

How does Gusto's compare to Hong Kong?[/QUOTE]Way different and both have some positives in their own way.

Gustos is fuckin amazing! So many hotties in regular clothes which to me is always more appealing than the HK girls walking around pretty scantly clad. To me it adds more to the imagination and gives that more "normal vibe" which I like. Also, the atmosphere is less of a pressure and more fun since the girls aren't completely hassling you for tips / drinks etc. It adds the element of the thrill of the hunt which is cool. You get to relax more and really scout things out.

HK is a full on brothel and the pressure these days the girls and waiters push can be annoying at times and the cost really adds up.

Having said that. Can't beat the convenience of HK and finding a hottie and straight to the room and then finish up and back at the party scene or you can cut out.

When you pull a girl from Gustos or other club. You have to have a place lined up, make the walk etc. Once there it is nice because you are game on in your turf instead of knocks on the door at HK hotels after 30 min.

So long winded answer but hard to compare, but I did enjoy Gustos and if I had the time, close location and energy to party all night. I can see myself liking the Medellin Party scene more.

[QUOTE=Sun08;2862492][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDcIus3zO2c[/URL][/QUOTE]This film is so misleading. Did you guys know there were brothels in Parpue Lleras? When did this developement occur (yes I'm being sarcastic) Not to mention this lady is greatly exaggerating the number of prostitutes in Parque lleras. And showing regular Colombian women who are just out with their friends as though they are all prostitutes. Unless things have changed drastically recently less than 5% of them are.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2862763]This film is so misleading. Did you guys know there were brothels in Parpue Lleras? When did this developement occur (yes I'm being sarcastic) Not to mention this lady is greatly exaggerating the number of prostitutes in Parque lleras. And showing regular Colombian women who are just out with their friends as though they are all prostitutes. Unless things have changed drastically recently less than 5% of them are.[/QUOTE]I would agree. She says most of the girls in Park Lleras look underaged to her. She is a 34 year old woman from Australia without any expertise in judging the age of Latina women. I have walked around that area and most of the girls do not look underaged to me. But it is one thing to just say that, it is another thing to prove it with some proof of the women who are walking around Park Llerras. She says the same thing about the girls hanging out in the main strip in Cartagena, that they look like they are mostly underaged but there is little evidence that this is actually the case. If you are going to say that it is mostly underaged girls hanging out in those two places, you should back it up with some proof.

Having said that. Can't beat the convenience of HK and finding a hottie and straight to the room and then finish up and back at the party scene or you can cut out.

Once there it is nice because you are game on in your turf instead of knocks on the door at HK hotels after 30 min.

Hong Kong has super hot chicas from all over Mexico but is high price for bad service. The chicas want $120-$150 usd for a 1/2 hour with GFE and BBBJ almost impossible to get. No thanks!

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2862763]This film is so misleading. Did you guys know there were brothels in Parpue Lleras? When did this developement occur (yes I'm being sarcastic) Not to mention this lady is greatly exaggerating the number of prostitutes in Parque lleras. And showing regular Colombian women who are just out with their friends as though they are all prostitutes. Unless things have changed drastically recently less than 5% of them are.[/QUOTE]The fucking western media will always be a shithole organization.

Look at all the fucking problems in the West and they got time and money to travel to a third world country that has prostitution legally.

Sureman.

[QUOTE=DashingDon;2862687]In fairness, the Mansion gives you the option of paying in cash and the tax is not charged.[/QUOTE]As you can see in this invoice, they charged the tax. Maybe they have stopped their scam since I stayed there. OTOH, they are not supposed to charge the IVA tax to tourists, regardless of the form of payment.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2862968]As you can see in this invoice, they charged the tax. Maybe they have stopped their scam since I stayed there. OTOH, they are not supposed to charge the IVA tax to tourists, regardless of the form of payment.[/QUOTE]Not surprising that the Gringo Inn aka whatever it's called would try to scam their clients.

Most of the guys that stay there have not spent a lot of time in Colombia, and seeing a tax on a Hotel room would be nothing new to anyone.

To avoid having to pay the tax to DIAN which is the equivalent of the IRS here more or less, the establishment must have a copy of their Passport showing the date of entry and that they were issued a tourist visa.

So factually speaking, they earn an additional 19% as net income on their nightly rates when they pull that stunt as my bet is that they don't get called on it much.

Makes you wonder how long they have been getting away with this.

I am getting so many responses on Tinder I can't even deal with them any more. But the few I actually tried to move forwards gave me red flags of scam right away.

Would you agree that it is extraordinarily rare to none-existent and therefore a red flag when the WhatsApp profile you're eventually be talking to has no picture? I do not believe there is any girl in the world who doesn't have a profile picture. Or rather, only fishy weird ones who have something to hide.

I wasted some time on one of them, thought we'd go out and she just delayed and delayed. And once asked me for taxi money. I said, I'm going to send my Uber to you, just give me your address. No reply. Late reply. I ultimately gave up.

So now I get what you mean, probably a lot of fakes on Tinder, because another one without a profile pic. I didn't even continue.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2862968]As you can see in this invoice, they charged the tax. Maybe they have stopped their scam since I stayed there. OTOH, they are not supposed to charge the IVA tax to tourists, regardless of the form of payment.[/QUOTE]I'm there now and my invoice has no tax column or tax charge on it. They copied my passport when I entered.

[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2863324]
Would you agree that it is extraordinarily rare to none-existent and therefore a red flag when the WhatsApp profile you're eventually be talking to has no picture?[/QUOTE]If you wrote to them first then it's likely they just haven't added you as a contact. There's a setting to only show your picture to contacts.

As far as the girl wanting to request her own taxi, that's totally normal and common, and really I don't blame them. It's normal to pay the cab once they arrive but of course you should never send before because there's no reason to.

I agree it's not unusual that girls ask for their own taxis. I don't agree to it because I prefer to be able to track their progress rather than wonder when or whether they are going to arrive. I also don't like someone who may or may not be known to the girl arriving with her. If they want to get their own taxi on the way out I'm ok with that.

[QUOTE=SlowBlow;2863528]If you wrote to them first then it's likely they just haven't added you as a contact. There's a setting to only show your picture to contacts.

As far as the girl wanting to request her own taxi, that's totally normal and common, and really I don't blame them. It's normal to pay the cab once they arrive but of course you should never send before because there's no reason to.[/QUOTE]

[URL]https://nypost.com/2023/10/27/lifestyle/womans-claim-she-accidentally-performed-sex-act-on-own-dad-while-at-bachelorette-party-in-amsterdam-investigated/[/URL]

Bitches are everwhere.

[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2863324].... And once asked me for taxi money. I said, I'm going to send my Uber to you, just give me your address. ....[/QUOTE]You can get her address and tell her how much you are going to pay her. I suggest you not to send Uber from your account. You can tell the girl to send you live update from zap if you want to track her progress.

I think it's easy enough to set up a separate uber account for this purpose. I haven't bothered doing that but I'm very interested to know what problems I am causing myself by using my own account.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2863783]You can get her address and tell her how much you are going to pay her. I suggest you not to send Uber from your account. You can tell the girl to send you live update from zap if you want to track her progress.[/QUOTE]

When I was in Medellin in 2019 I had some good sessions at [URL]Chicas.com[/URL], anyone been there recently?

Great report by Wwwwe.

[QUOTE=Wwwwe;2863748]I was almost stabbed with a butcher knife but I will spare those details as this post is already long enough.[/QUOTE]Pray tell.

[QUOTE=Wwwwe;2863748]Seeking.

Love hate relationship with Seeking. Conversed with maybe 150 girls-200 girls and whatsapped maybe 50 chicks or so in 2-3 months. Many chicks will also just stop responding eventually. Not double and triple texting so if they don't respond they ain't interested. From my personal experience, most chicks are semi or hardcore pros. I've had webcam models (hot) charge 700 K for a date and 2 very average girls each quote me 2,000 USD per month. One chick wanted to meet once or twice a month for that amount and the other said she met her previous arrangement nearly every day for that amount. The disparity in pricing displays (not only the delusion of the women) but the range of what you can experience on Seeking. I personally ended up with a chick who propositioned me for just sex a few times a month, covered or bareback. She said she was new to the site (had already been online for 6 months so obviously I was a bit weary) and only wanted to see one guy. Basically I paid her 600 K per meeting and we were supposed to move to a monthly allowance but I felt uneasy after some time. She had an IUD and was very inexperienced, but I felt as if I was being lied to quite often. I felt as if she would just say yes to anything I proposed just to get to the money in the straightest line possible. She could've easily been seeing more than just me and I didn't want to be barebacking along with other guys. Some of you motherfuckers are wilding. She deleted her profile and was mildly attractive (7) but deals like this can be found no doubt if you are willing to sift through the hundreds of hookers on the site. I think Seeking is worth it if you are in town for a few weeks but in person at the clubs would be more efficient for sure.[/QUOTE]You learn something new everyday, I never knew there's working girls in Hooters LOL. I'm currently in Medellin right now and having a blast. I'm focusing mostly on Seeking and the prices you mentioned on Lleras are accurate.

The girl on the (PHOTO# 8.5), I'm planning on meeting her up next week. She quoted me 500 k for 3 hours it's doable for me. I'll give my feedback if I ended up smashing her.

Met another 3 girls on Seeking. They are all IG Models type. 1 quoted me 1 million pesos for 2 hours LOL. She's hot though, I tried to negotiate down to 800 k, she said No. Still cheaper than the IG models type in the US who will charge you a few racks for an hour. Who knows, I might bite it LOL.

The other one wants 700 k for 2 hours LOL. I told her I just want 1 hour and she said 500 k for one hour LOL.

Last girl wants 2 million pesos LOL. She said she wouldn't do it for less than that. She told me she's not cheap and there's a lot of cheap girls in Medellin. Told me to still have fun LOL. Crazy prices.

Really appreciate you for the report. May the God's of mongering bless you always!

[QUOTE=ElSexoChino7;2863916]You learn something new everyday, I never knew there's working girls in Hooters LOL.[/QUOTE]You didn't really learn anything new. Maybe once in a blue moon there are un-escorted working girls in Hooters. Actually, there's probably at least one working girl there most days, but she's with her date.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2863819]I think it's easy enough to set up a separate uber account for this purpose. I haven't bothered doing that but I'm very interested to know what problems I am causing myself by using my own account.[/QUOTE]You may get involved if something happens to the girl. This is a generalization and may not apply to you personally but there are situations when it is better not to do it.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2863783]You can get her address and tell her how much you are going to pay her. I suggest you not to send Uber from your account. You can tell the girl to send you live update from zap if you want to track her progress.[/QUOTE]I do this periodically but with Indriver and only with the cash option. Then when the indriver and the girl arrive I go to meet them and pay in cash. Haven't had a problem with that method.

Although lately I've been teaching them how to come on the bus. If they need the money bad enough yes they will come on the bus LOL, and news flash it isn't no 20 mil it's 2850.

Also there seems to be alot of semi-pros right here in my own fucking barrio. It just took making connections and now it's flowing like a freshly lubed chain LOL. That screen shot of the WhatsApp convo I posted in the stupid shit thread the other day was from one of my barrio girls named Mariana.

-Gabacho.

P.S.: No PMs guys. Find your own women.

[QUOTE=Wwwwe;2863748]Medellin 2023.

Having arrived here the end of 2021 for a little over a month, things have definitely changed since then. Currently here now and leaving within the next few weeks.

SUMMARY.

Basically overall (pro) quality is down, prices are up (like everywhere else according to the forum, but in an irrational way) Medellin is overbought in my opinion.
.[/QUOTE]Your not the first and certainly won't be the last. I don't mean to pick on you, since your sentiments are shared by many. I just want to say that those of you that think the chicas are worse. You simply lost that kid in the candy store feeling. The candy is the same. The kid has changed. And the delusion. Is wholly your doing. You say the prices are crazy yet you feed those prices. Its entirely your fault. The photos of chicas. Those are 10 a penny. As I said, ii am not rrally picking on you, rather all that share your view. Once you guys stop coming, life will return to normal.

Both 6th November and 13th are holidays. There is supposedly a feria (not the flores feria) on the 13th. Chicas traveling to their hometowns or celebrating the festivals.

3 out of 5 chicas I reached out said they are traveling around and have limited availability.

I will be there starting on 12 for a week or so. As always, happy to catch up with both long term residents and Weekend warriors for a drink or lunch.

I think you are spot on. I say this from the perspective of someone who has lived here before, during, and after the pandemic. Another way to understand the phenomenon is to compare it to a romantic relationship with a girlfriend or wife. During the starry eyed early days the object of your affection seems like the most beautiful girl in the world. Over time, as the relationship matures and runs its course and you learn about aspects beyond surface appearance, the grass starts to look greener on the other side and what seemed like a dream come true becomes more like real life. Something else to consider is the kid in the candy store feeling is harder to replicate the more familiar you are with a place. You can still do it but it's less of a point and click exercise and it takes more time than guys who are here for a week or two at a time typically have. The Centro scene is a good example. It takes time to get past what appears on the surface in Centro. I don't see it as worthwhile for a guy here on vacation to put in the hours and days it takes to even notice when new providers come on the scene. If you followed the posts of guys like Pollo Negro you have a feel for what the time investment is. Speaking of Centro, a week or two ago there was a guy throwing around fake high denomination US and Colombian bank notes. It was really entertaining watching people react.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2864043]Your not the first and certainly won't be the last. I don't mean to pick on you, since your sentiments are shared by many. I just want to say that those of you that think the chicas are worse. You simply lost that kid in the candy store feeling. The candy is the same. The kid has changed. And the delusion. Is wholly your doing. You say the prices are crazy yet you feed those prices. Its entirely your fault. The photos of chicas. Those are 10 a penny. As I said, ii am not rrally picking on you, rather all that share your view. Once you guys stop coming, life will return to normal.[/QUOTE]

I promise not to PM, LOL. Your indriver practice works. I personally find it inconvenient and less discrete to have to go out and pay a driver compared to tracking progress from the comfort of my apartment and calling my doorman to let the girl in when I see she arrived. I agree 100% about girls using the metro and buses. They figure it out when they need the date. I remember a couple who wanted me to continue sending cars like I used to during the pandemic. They gave up that point of view after I told them to contact me when they are ready to hop on the bus.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2864035]I do this periodically but with Indriver and only with the cash option. Then when the indriver and the girl arrive I go to meet them and pay in cash. Haven't had a problem with that method.

Although lately I've been teaching them how to come on the bus. If they need the money bad enough yes they will come on the bus LOL, and news flash it isn't no 20 mil it's 2850.

Also there seems to be alot of semi-pros right here in my own fucking barrio. It just took making connections and now it's flowing like a freshly lubed chain LOL. That screen shot of the WhatsApp convo I posted in the stupid shit thread the other day was from one of my barrio girls named Mariana.

-Gabacho.

P.S.: No PMs guys. Find your own women.[/QUOTE]

Do you mean chicaspuntocom, the place near Parque de Bolivar on calle 54? If yes, I haven't been there is quite a while but I can confirm it is still in operation because the touts are still out front handing out cards. I might pop in there next week and have a look.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2863820]When I was in Medellin in 2019 I had some good sessions at [URL]Chicas.com[/URL], anyone been there recently?

Great report by Wwwwe.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2863819]I think it's easy enough to set up a separate uber account for this purpose. I haven't bothered doing that but I'm very interested to know what problems I am causing myself by using my own account.[/QUOTE]I get this image of her using your open Uber account to pick up her BF and taking him to Guatape.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2864043]Your not the first and certainly won't be the last. I don't mean to pick on you, since your sentiments are shared by many. I just want to say that those of you that think the chicas are worse. You simply lost that kid in the candy store feeling. The candy is the same. The kid has changed. And the delusion. [/QUOTE]You said the same thing to me and you are still wrong. I was gone for 2 years and had no sex during that time. I was a born again virgin child in a candy store and immediately could tell that the quality had dropped. Day one. Not 3 weeks later or even 3 days later. I thought maybe it was an off day but the day after and the day after that were all the same. Every single guy I have spoken with in person has said the same thing. I read the same thing in other countries. The only people that are kids in a candy store are the guys that are newbies.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2864088]Do you mean chicaspuntocom, the place near Parque de Bolivar on calle 54? If yes, I haven't been there is quite a while but I can confirm it is still in operation because the touts are still out front handing out cards. I might pop in there next week and have a look.[/QUOTE]The one next to Marat Hotel and 2 streets down and just around the corner on Carrera 47 were horrible 2. 5 years ago and one guy I talked to said he went 3 weeks ago and they both are still filled with oldies and fatties.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2863820]When I was in Medellin in 2019 I had some good sessions at [URL]Chicas.com[/URL], anyone been there recently?[/QUOTE]

I do not like that they want my email and I need to create an ID and password. I have enough ID/passwords to keep track of.

[QUOTE=Wwwwe;2863748]

Angeles Spa. Sessioned here about 5 times. Catalina thrice, Marian once, and Carolina once. BBBJ every time. Maybe 140 K + 50 K for BBBJ. I can't remember exactly. (hour but you can only bust once). Catalina had a great personality and really got into it. The other two were pleasant as well, but there was just more chemistry with Catalina.

This location was in laureles, not too far from Angeles, but upon texting them now, they have sent "Belen la palma Avenida 80 #30 a-20" as the location so maybe I am getting locations mixed up, but nonetheless there is their ad. "Todas las chicas oral al natural 30 adicional. " This place is 60 K + 10 K for the room. Attached will be their whatsapp contact +573127943512 (PHOTO #2).

Ella's Erotic. Sessioned with Alejandra here about 3 times. Half hour for 120 K + 50 K for BBBJ. One of the better BBBJ's in Medellin by a longshot.

Medellin and Buenos Aires (Argentina) are the motherland for online bait and switch. There have been times I have showed up and the 'girl wasn't available' but several girls a few points below were. Walked out every time.

Lelo Hex, thinnest condom on the market. Breaks 40% of the time. If it doesn't break it isn't Lelo.

[/QUOTE]I did Carolina at Ellas Erotic. Pretty face, nice body, and great personality. Only problem was her Photo Shopped boobs. That doctor mutilated the poor girl. She has a cut from the bottom of her nipple to the chest and then along the bottom of her boob. Picture an upside down "T" and it was one centimeter wide. She got a little jumpy when started sucking on her boobs. Like I was going to leave a mark worse than her scar and she is a black girl. I swear that 60% of all the silicone bitches I have had all worried about me leaving marks on their boobs and have an attitude. I had a girl before and after silcone and the exact same shit happened after her boob job.

Angeles Spa is also Santa's Spa and who knows what else. This is ground zero for silicone. I wanted a black girl Gina. What was supposed to be her personal number informed me she was there and I said I would be there 30 minutes. Got there and she was busy. I told them I would wait. They tried bringing me other girls. There was another I wanted but I was too angry to take her. Then, I shit you not, a girl came up to me stating she was Gina. This * was not even black. I went back 3 days later. Gina was not there. I texted "Gina's number" and she said she was available. I told her I was just there 20 minutes ago. Then the person messaged that they had other girls.

Not Dios Spa. Eros Spa. It was at one location in Laureles. Then moved into Spa Suites on Calle 44 at the base of the bridge (last day there Friday Oct. 27). On Saturday Oct. 28 they moved into the location you listed above in Belen. If you Google street view it is in the furniture store location. Pissed me off. I nearly went to the wrong location but kept texting them and they explained temporary Spa Suites location. Idiots! I know this because I F-ed a girl Friday at Spa Suites and a new one Saturday in Belen.

Argentina. I do not even have to go there to know you are correct. The Argentina economy is in shambles. But the prices those girls are asking are crazy. The big reveal for me was the large number of advertisements on the prostitute sites of girls that only did virtual BS.

The world's thinnest latex condom is the Chinese Aoni condom. It measures just 0.036 mm thick, beating the previous record-holder, Okamoto of Japan1. The Okamoto measuring 0.04 mm thick. The Swedish HEX is .045 mm. If you think the Swedish condom breaks a lot then try the Chinese made one. The Chinese can not make a single thing good let alone great. I tried the Japanese one 10 years ago when it was still the thinnest. It felt and sounded like I slide my dick into a grocery store bag. CRINKLE CRINKLE.

[QUOTE=Wwwwe;2863748]2 years ago this city had the highest ratio of beautiful women to non-beautiful women out of the 20+ countries I've visited. Now, I'm hesitant to say the same.[/QUOTE]What place has the highest now?

There is also an APP that you can download to your cell phone.

[URL]https://www.motelnow.com.co/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Wwwwe;2863748]Medellin 2023.

Having arrived here the end of 2021 for a little over a month, things have definitely changed since then. Currently here now and leaving within the next few weeks.

Many girls from Seeking have changed their location in the last 3-4 months to Cancun, Dominican Republic, Greece, Spain and even Montenegro. Medellin is experiencing a Pussy drain in the pro market for sure. There are fewer attractive non-pros now than there was two years ago, but there are still more than the global average.
[/QUOTE]Congrats to you for all those great times, memories. Because the world is getting lazy, going online sucking up vids and info with 1/2 of Miami in Medellin on weekends. Same in Tijuana. Cali swarms Baja. I say go where there are no sex tourists, and tell no one.

Ride share apps don't work that way. You would have to share your password to allow anyone else to order service. Taxis on the other hand, a girl and a driver you don't know or control can show up asking for what they want to ask for.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere;2864115]I get this image of her using your open Uber account to pick up her BF and taking him to Guatape.

You said the same thing to me and you are still wrong. I was gone for 2 years and had no sex during that time. I was a born again virgin child in a candy store and immediately could tell that the quality had dropped. Day one. Not 3 weeks later or even 3 days later. I thought maybe it was an off day but the day after and the day after that were all the same. Every single guy I have spoken with in person has said the same thing. I read the same thing in other countries. The only people that are kids in a candy store are the guys that are newbies.

The one next to Marat Hotel and 2 streets down and just around the corner on Carrera 47 were horrible 2. 5 years ago and one guy I talked to said he went 3 weeks ago and they both are still filled with oldies and fatties.



I do not like that they want my email and I need to create an ID and password. I have enough ID/passwords to keep track of.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2864303]Congrats to you for all those great times, memories. Because the world is getting lazy, going online sucking up vids and info with 1/2 of Miami in Medellin on weekends. Same in Tijuana. Cali swarms Baja. I say go where there are no sex tourists, and tell no one.[/QUOTE]Wwwwwe was right on. Things are not like they were but I honestly do not know if it is ever going to be as good as coming out of the travel ban and pandemic. Those were once in a lifetime events.

And I always admired your ability to find the right places and drill down and network. This is great advice. I am not sure anyone is going to listen though. People rarely veer off the beaten path.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2864331]Ride share apps don't work that way. ..r.[/QUOTE]The girl can give the driver different direction to run up your bill or damage your rating.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2864440]The girl can give the driver different direction to run up your bill or damage your rating.[/QUOTE]I once had some stupid venezuelan birch who was a loosely known friend of a friend of a friend who I ordered an indriver for her from Bello to a panaderia near where I live.

Apparently she must have known the indriver dude because he started messaging me thru the app asking if I he could buy themselves beers and if I would pay for it.

I immediately got bad vibes from this and had second thoughts about seeing the birch. So I told the dude I wasn't paying for any beers and basically told him to fuck off. I canceled the trip and reported the incident to the indriver app. Then like a half hour later the dude was calling and messaging me on WhatsApp from different numbers cussing me out but I just blocked him. And since the destination was set to the panaderia there was no way he could know where exactly I live.

I guess she was on the hook for the 17 Lukas or maybe she had to fuxk that dude instead to pay for her ride I don't know and I don't care LOL. But other than that I have never had a problem with indriver it was an isolated incident.

These days however, atleast when I'm buy myself, I like to use Picap as opposed to indriver as it's alot cheaper. I either use public transport like bus and or metro and if I use an app it's Picap. I've been using Picap in Medellin and Cali and it's absolutely the best and Iñnot only does it save you money and get you to your destinations faster but it gives you an adrenaline rush too.

-Gabacho.

Planning a trip for Medellin for the end of February but was wondering, not many older providers drug clients versus younger providers, right? I mean, keep your guard up at all times but I've mainly read horror stories of younger providers drugging clients versus an older provider possibly, 35+ not doing something similar.

I mean I'm attracted to what I like but I feel ill be seeking the milfs, maduras, and Venicas when I get down there.

I know about the safety procedures buy was curious if anyone had some cautionary Madura stories.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2864486]I've been using Picap in Medellin and Cali and it's absolutely the best and Inot only does it save you money and get you to your destinations faster but it gives you an adrenaline rush too..[/QUOTE]Another option is Didi moto. I completely agree, riding those motorcycles certainly gives you adrenaline rush. Maybe too much for me, hahaha.

You can even order Didi moto to MDE airport.

Indriver has a bad reputation here for passenger robberies and for less stringent driver vetting. Recently, didi launched an indriver like feature. Riders can offer a fare and drivers can accept the fare or bid with counteroffers. I pretty much stick to didi and uber lately.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2864486]I once had some stupid venezuelan birch who was a loosely known friend of a friend of a friend who I ordered an indriver for her from Bello to a panaderia near where I live.

Apparently she must have known the indriver dude because he started messaging me thru the app asking if I he could buy themselves beers and if I would pay for it.

I immediately got bad vibes from this and had second thoughts about seeing the birch. So I told the dude I wasn't paying for any beers and basically told him to fuck off. I canceled the trip and reported the incident to the indriver app. Then like a half hour later the dude was calling and messaging me on WhatsApp from different numbers cussing me out but I just blocked him. And since the destination was set to the panaderia there was no way he could know where exactly I live.

I guess she was on the hook for the 17 Lukas or maybe she had to fuxk that dude instead to pay for her ride I don't know and I don't care LOL. But other than that I have never had a problem with indriver it was an isolated incident..[/QUOTE]

Motorcycles here are a hard no for me. Motorcycles driven by some guy I don't know are a harder no. It is always the cheapest ride option.

[QUOTE=NorthernLight;2864642]Another option is Didi moto. I completely agree, riding those motorcycles certainly gives you adrenaline rush. Maybe too much for me, hahaha.

You can even order Didi moto to MDE airport.[/QUOTE]

No, ride share apps don't work that way. Only the account owner or anyone with whom the account owner shares their password (not recommended) can authorize a change of destination. You can also track the trip real time from the app so you there are no surprises. If a driver deviates from the destination or the app's GPS routing, you have the option to cancel the trip or get a refund if the driver marks the trip complete. I've never had to make a claim for a trip involving a girl but I have had to claim refunds or discounts for some of my trips when the drivers tried what they thought would be a shortcut but turned out to be a traffic delay, or when drivers have not shown up and started and ended the trip without me. I've never been turned down for a refund or discount, not even once. Occasionally, usually late at night or in bad weather, I will select the taxi option that didi and uber offer. I really dislike Medellin taxis because of their small and uncomfortable cars and because quite a few of the drivers seem to be anti GPS.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2864440]The girl can give the driver different direction to run up your bill or damage your rating.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NorthernLight;2864642]Another option is Didi moto. I completely agree, riding those motorcycles certainly gives you adrenaline rush. Maybe too much for me, hahaha.

You can even order Didi moto to MDE airport.[/QUOTE]As a long time motorbike rider and seeing first hand what even a low speed street slide can do to the unprotected skin / body, I say 'thanks but no thanks' to riding as passenger with just a helmet on, especially in Medellin traffic.

Maybe if they'd let me drive myself, but even then -- there are still other road users that like to gamble and pass by the millimeters or riding as if coked-up.

Hello Gents,

Will be in El Poblado area of Medellin from Nov 5 to Nov 9.

Looking for your assistance with regards to the following:

Are the AirBnBs friendly towards bringing company for the day or perhaps overnight?

Or should I look into Hotels.

I would appreciate any insights or reccommendations.

Please help a brother out on priority. Have a small window to book anything.

Thanks in Advance.

Auto.

[QUOTE=NorthernLight;2864642]Another option is Didi moto. I completely agree, riding those motorcycles certainly gives you adrenaline rush. Maybe too much for me, hahaha.

You can even order Didi moto to MDE airport.[/QUOTE]I bet either Picap or Didi Moto would be alot cheaper than the 98 k COP the idiots are always paying, however it's probably not cheaper than the bus from behind the nutibarra for 14 k. What it's going to boil down to is how much time you have before your flight and / or if you have a suitcase or just a back pack.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2864650]Motorcycles here are a hard no for me. Motorcycles driven by some guy I don't know are a harder no. It is always the cheapest ride option.[/QUOTE]One big difference I noticed since using the ride share motorcycles is that the motos don't have to pay peajes like how normal cars and taxis do. So if you're traveling a route that has rolls such as using the tunnel to the MDE airport, using a motor can be considerably less expensive.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2864655]No, ride share apps don't work that way. Only the account owner or anyone with whom the account owner shares their password (not recommended) can authorize a change of destination. You can also track the trip real time from the app so you there are no surprises. If a driver deviates from the destination or the app's GPS routing, you have the option to cancel the trip or get a refund if the driver marks the trip complete. I've never had to make a claim for a trip involving a girl but I have had to claim refunds or discounts for some of my trips when the drivers tried what they thought would be a shortcut but turned out to be a traffic delay, or when drivers have not shown up and started and ended the trip without me. I've never been turned down for a refund or discount, not even once. Occasionally, usually late at night or in bad weather, I will select the taxi option that didi and uber offer. I really dislike Medellin taxis because of their small and uncomfortable cars and because quite a few of the drivers seem to be anti GPS.[/QUOTE]Earlier today I used Uber to take a chica back home. She changed the destination. Well she had the driver take her somewhere different than her home address. I received an alert from Uber asking if I was ok since the driver went to a different destination. The fare was 6 mil lower than it would have been to the original address. So maybe a driver can verbally agree to drop someone off on a shorter ride than was already agreed to originally on the app. I saw this same chica last month and exactly the same thing happened so today I verified with her that she wanted to go back to where she was picked up earlier in the day. Still she changed it once in the car. Try to figure these chicas out good luck!

Well another one bites the dust. American 40-45 years old celebrating his birthday took 2 Venezuelans to his room. They suspect he was scoped. And he was at a hotel, not airbnb. Enjoy Poblando guys. I will stay downtown until the cows come home; there is no way you are not getting me around that Parque Lleras area. That place is bad luck.

[URL]https://www.minuto30.com/extranjero-muerto-en-hotel-del-poblado/1516647/[/URL]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2864790]Well another one bites the dust. American 40-45 years old celebrating his birthday took 2 Venezuelans to his room. They suspect he was scoped. And he was at a hotel, not airbnb. Enjoy Poblando guys. I will stay downtown until the cows come home; there is no way you are not getting me around that Parque Lleras area. That place is bad luck.

[URL]https://www.minuto30.com/extranjero-muerto-en-hotel-del-poblado/1516647/[/URL][/QUOTE]Hotel looks like Provenza lofts. If so I've stayed there.

Tragic situation below.

But everyone who reads this site has been forwarned.

Colombia is passe.

Colombiia has actuallyy reverted to being a war zone much like 3 and 4 decades ago.

The chicas don't do this in a vacuum. They have male accomplices.

Everyone has been forwarned.

Almost anywhere else in the world is now a better place to find pay for play.

Go a girl from mileroticos I did a month ago. Loose coochie. I knew this coming in but but last time things went well and this time she couldn't do the job and she wanted to raises prices on me and was mad disrespectful afterwards. Safe to say she lost a customer. Damage 300 k:

Went to la isla. I was expecting more people for Halloween. I guess la isla follows the Bogota schedule of activity inly happens Wednesday Thursday Fri and sat.

Place is empty. As I was walking in the only 8 decided to leave. Rightfully so since there was no one there on a Halloween night.

Went to parque lleras. It's raining and it's Halloween. Like always saw no one. Except one girl with an exceptional face but no body so I didn't talk to her.

Walked to la mansion. My first time. Didn't know how to get in so I asked a car parked outside they came at me with a where are you from after I asked how to get inside. That's how you know they trying to do something to you. I just ask again. Como se entra? Toca el timbre they said.

Go in. Bouncer is like there are 8 girls and there's a 50 k cover in like this place cost the same as la isla? My ass. Mate probably jipped me. Cover for la mansion is 50 k? The bartender looked better than the girls. I can't imagine the hyped up Halloween party on the 27.

Welp uneventful night. Probs never coming back to Mde. Bogota is pretty good as long as they keep importing girls in Santa Fe. I'll check Cartagena in December.

Where is your next best destination?

[QUOTE=Wwwwe;2863748]Medellin 2023.

Having arrived here the end of 2021 for a little over a month, things have definitely changed since then. Currently here now and leaving within the next few weeks.

SUMMARY.

Basically overall (pro) quality is down, prices are up (like everywhere else according to the forum, but in an irrational way) Medellin is overbought in my opinion. And attitudes are a bit worse, but not enough to avoid this place altogether. Volume of attractive non-pros in the entire city is a bit less as well. 2 years ago this city had the highest ratio of beautiful women to non-beautiful women out of the 20+ countries I've visited. Now, I'm hesitant to say the same. 2 years ago they had a sign at the airport just outside of arrivals, "Medellin. Where even the ugly bitches look good. " They removed it 3 weeks ago. Facebook seems to be where the value lies or the clubs in Parque Lleras if you are not price sensitive. Anyways, the following is personal experience:

Pricing is based off of MAY 2023 OCT 2023.

CASAS starting at 60 K-140 K.

El Centro.

Having visited New Life in 2021,2023 was a grave disappointment. There were about 13 chicks or so (lost count after staring at ass) and basically one was above my 7 threshold. Now there could've been hotter ones who were occupied, but it's hard to believe anything substantially more attractive would be in the same lineup. Purely subjective though. In 2021, I went to New Life 5-10 times in 5 weeks, many times doing chicks back-to-back. That was impossible this time around. Sessioned with one chick for half an hour for 60 K or whatever it was and paid an additional 50 K in the room for BBBJ, can't remember the cost exactly. Attitude was that of a north American chick, unbothered and would rather be anywhere else in the world. I do not smell bad and I haven't turned 30 yet. Anyways, overall vibe of the establishment is completely different than before and this is completely a 'sport fucking' type of place. During a session in May, this chick (high 7) told me to hurry up and cum since she had to go home. That would've been a court-martial in 2021, and from what I've read in the reports, Medellin had already fallen off by that time. The rest of the report will be more quantitative. Come to New Life if you're A) looking to sport fuck for the cheapest price possible (besides El Centro streets) or B) looking to rescue a chick from here or pay substantially more outside of the casa to overnight her, BBFS her or whatever (presuming it's legal). Half hour starts around 60 K if I remember correctly. Located in el centro.

Zandaly. Sessioned here in 2021 with about 5 chicks or so and they were all at least bangable. Returned in September of 2023 and there were more chicks (about 12 or so) and just about every one of them were overweight and disproportioned. Said I would just pay the viewing fee and leave and was only charged for the water. Tipped and left. Not worth it in my opinion unless your motivations would be the same for going to New Life. Also located in el centro.

Laureles.

Angeles Spa. Sessioned here about 5 times. Catalina thrice, Marian once, and Carolina once. BBBJ every time. Maybe 140 K + 50 K for BBBJ. I can't remember exactly. (hour but you can only bust once). Catalina had a great personality and really got into it. The other two were pleasant as well, but there was just more chemistry with Catalina.

[URL]https://catalogoangeles.********.com/2023/06/catalogo-de-angeles.html[/URL]

I'm getting an erection while writing this.

Dios Spa or maybe EROS? - Walk in and you'll be presented with about 10 chicks that surround and stare at you while you make the decision. Went with a slim chick who said she had just arrived from Barranquilla and only had been in Medellin for 8 days. Also told me after the session she is planning to work elsewhere as fast as possible as she is not a fan of her work. 80 K for the hour, 2 relations. Another bargain spot for high volume guys. BBBJ was an extra 50 K or so, can't remember. Quality was iffy, all below a 7. The chick I went with was about a 7. I could've sworn this place was named DIOS SPA at one point but while searching on mileroticos, it appears their name is EROS SPA. Not even sure to be honest.

[URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/no-esperes-mas-15-hermosas-mujeres-somos-el-unico-erosspa-nueva-sede-70k/24825280/[/URL]

Her photo will be attached. (PHOTO #1).

This location was in laureles, not too far from Angeles, but upon texting them now, they have sent "Belen la palma Avenida 80 #30 a-20" as the location so maybe I am getting locations mixed up, but nonetheless there is their ad. "Todas las chicas oral al natural 30 adicional. " This place is 60 K + 10 K for the room. Attached will be their whatsapp contact +573127943512 (PHOTO #2).

This is an example of the quality you can expect there.

[URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/ana-culona-ardiente-complaciente-deseosa-de-verga-full-promo-erosspa-70/24793640/[/URL]

Ella's Erotic. Sessioned with Alejandra here about 3 times. Half hour for 120 K + 50 K for BBBJ. One of the better BBBJ's in Medellin by a longshot.

[URL]https://ellaserotic.com/model/alejandra/[/URL]

Pictures are not 100% up to date and are photoshopped. Still a pretty girl.

Saw the lineup each time, but only had 1-3 girls at a time.

Unnamed Casa. There was an unnamed casa (it has a name) in a location I forgot that opened around 7 am or so in northern laureles, but what's worth mentioning is it was around 130 K for the half hour and the chick didn't want to BBBJ. Just to give guys an idea of casa pricing / service.

Doll house. I think this place has moved locations (could be wrong) but maybe they are in Boston now. Either way, here is the link. They use the most photoshop in Colombia hands down. Saw maybe 5 girls in the lineup, elected to leave and on the way out the Mamasan asked what's the matter. Told her I wasn't interested and would've liked to see another chick who she had originally sent in the whatsapp. She told me I could wait a few minutes and she'the get her. The chick arrived to the room in less than 10 minutes. The ass she had in the whatsapp pictures somehow she had worked off while walking up the one flight of stairs. She had a pretty face and an extremely feminine demeanor so I chose to stick around only if she would perform a BBBJ. She did for an extra cost and we began. Maybe 120 K + 50 K for oral.

[URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/somos-tu-nueva-alternativa-al-placer-manejamos-presentacion-en-disfraz-erotico/23703287/[/URL]

Here's her and her ass that does not exist. Let me know if you find it. (PHOTO #3).

STRIP CLUBS.

These are basically brothels where some girls may or may not get on stage, but will be scantily clad. Personally Barra Ejecutiva was my go-to in 2021, but in 2023 the quality has fallen off of a cliff. This club is located in el centro and may or may not be too safe for some board members. The area is a bit rough and definitely has a different feel than Poblado. Many women there have quoted 150 K-180 K for "un rato" which is basically 15-20/30 minutes (depends on the girl) and you also pay like 20 K or something upstairs for the room. CBJ is standard but some will upcharge 50 K-100 K. One wanted 100 K, I declined, she asked for 50 K, I accepted and was the worst BBBJ I have received in all of Latin America. Every little lick was followed by wiping her tongue on my shirt that was laying next to her. Complete rip-off. Then to follow the excellent performance, an odor filled the room as soon as she removed her thong. She asked me what was that smell and I told her good question. As you can guess my erection was nowhere to be found as all the blood in my body moved away from my penis as fast as possible. She wiped the Tussi residue from her nose and put her thong back on. Sessions here will most likely start from 150 K for 20-30 minutes as of 2023.

There are a handful of clubs across the street from Plaza Botero that aren't worth mentioning anymore, but back in 2021 there were women who were in shape that used to frequent these clubs. Not anymore. These are definitely more of a local vibe and a lot of locals come to these spots to watch football. Was quoted 150 K for a half hour in Conejita's but declined to find higher quality elsewhere. Chick was maybe a 7. Nice fake tits, but more inclined to session with natural girls.

Then there is the world famous La Isla of which I won't ever return to. Went there in 2021 for 6 minutes as the plastic turned me off. Paid 40 K for water and walked outside. Long story short one of the bouncers drove me to a restaurant around the corner and on the way there we approached a fake traffic stop. I didn't know at the time, but the driver had definitely set me up and these (real) cops standing on the side of the road stopped us, searched us, and let us go. I asked him if this was normal and he said yeah. It was my first night in Medellin and had no idea what normal was. When we arrived at the restaurant 2 minutes later, I noticed the cop had removed 50 K from my back pocket during the "search. " Pussy. I told the bouncer and he said better not say anything to avoid any further problems. It seemed he had my best interest at heart but in retrospect he is also a pussy. He drove me to my Airbnb (in Poblado) and requested 40 K. I didn't know what was what back then and paid him. Seemed a bit high but was my first night in Medellin. Some people in Medellin will definitely try to get over on you more so than other places.

All of the reports about La Isla are probably true. There's probably the highest quality there on some or all nights, but it is the most expensive venue in Medellin and may provide the best experience if you're looking to handle business on the spot. I don't know. Can't speak on it.

Fase Dos was okay. Great quality in 2021 and no idea what 2023 bears. Sessioned with a chick there the first trip for 320 K for the half hour or something like that. Probably overpaid, but it was my first night in Medellin and I didn't know any better.

Luna Lunera is another spot, but couldn't get in as they have metal detectors. 2021 was a time where you would need to have a knife on you at a minimum, nowadays it doesn't quite feel like that, but carrying one isn't the worst idea.

STREET.

So, many men here swear by the street scene in El Centro. I have found the area to be repulsive. In 2021, there were a handful on any given day, that may have been doable, but for my taste, there aren't any at all I would put my penis in these days. I thought about heading down there one day for a 40 K BBBJ or whatever they would charge but couldn't bring myself to it. Sessioned here in 2021 with 2 chicks. One for 35 K and another for 40 K + 10 K for the room. The 40 K chick showers in the same place as the chick from Barra Ejecutiva. Maybe they are roommates. Couldn't get an erection due to the smell. Still tried though. Walking out of that hotel at 8 am on a Tuesday morning was sobering to say the least. That concluded El Centro for me. Personally I think one could talk to one of the girls in the bars who aren't hooking. Met an attractive 20 year old university student who just sits in the bars and talks to the men. If they decide to tip her at the end of the convo that's up to them. Surely some guys are offering to fuck. I didn't partake or make an offer to her but there are at least 70+ chicks scattered throughout these bars around the corner from Conejita's There are at least a dozen bars. 100% locals. None of the chicks are attractive to me, but taste is subjective. Also during the day, some of the coffee girls are exchanging numbers with older guys on the steps outside of the Parque Berrio Metro. Maybe they sell more than coffee. The fluorescent spandex bodysuit would suggest they do.

El Centro feels a bit safer at night than it did 2 years ago. I was almost stabbed with a butcher knife but I will spare those details as this post is already long enough.

Parque Lleras. Technically Parque Lleras is also the street scene, but many of the girls float in and out of the clubs and around the park. Black Diamond is the old "Lleras Park Bar. " Montecarlo is upstairs and Glow is next door. More or less the same quality as some of the girls rotate amongst the 3. Haven't been to Gusto's in 2 years so can't speak on it. Heard chicks are quoting 300 USD per hour and wouldn't be surprised as delusion as hit Medellin hard recently. A chick approached me in Black Diamond by the bathrooms and wanted to give me her whatsapp. I would say she was around the middle of the pack in terms of looks in there as Black Diamond has the best quality I have personally seen in Medellin. She made it quick as she was already entertaining a guy and I, a hooker at my table, but we exchanged numbers and that was it. Continued to number collect and get quotes but wasn't interested as the women wanted 400 K-500 K per hour (they are also quoting in USD now). I thought that was a bit high for Medellin so I passed on all 12 of them or so. Maybe collected about 45 numbers between chicks in the clubs and on the streets on Calle 10 and prices seemed to be around 300 K-530 K for the hour. A chick I sessioned with in May for 400 K for the hour and 600 K for 3 hours wanted 700 K this time around. I can't remember if that was for the hour or my proposal of 2-3 hours. Maybe it was per hour, I can't remember. Will attach her photo. (PHOTO #4) Met a chick from Lleras back in May for 4 hours for 800 K. Originally quoted something ridiculous for 6 hours like 1. 4 M but I told her look your price is your price but I have heard of much lower in this area. She was new to Medellin and eventually settled on 800 K for 4 hours with BBBJ and some LFK. She was by far the most sweet and feminine chick I've hooked up with and normally (and haven't) paid those prices before but made an exception. I believe her initially quote came from ignorance.

The women in the clubs in Parque Lleras all are freelancers to my knowledge so what you negotiate with the woman is on you. Personally, I think you could find the best value here and on Facebook / Seeking. More to follow.

Sessioned with the chick from Black Diamond a night or two after we met for 500 K for 2 hours. BBBJ, DFK and super bubbly personality. Was planning on seeing her 13 more times during my trip but she was bullshitting when it came time to meet up to get tested. I can't stand condoms anymore. Lelo Hex, thinnest condom on the market. Breaks 40% of the time. If it doesn't break it isn't Lelo. I've had enough condom sex so fishing for BBFS these days (with a test before).

Some quotes from Lleras include: 450 K for 3 hours. 300 K per hour, covered everything. 400 k per hour covered everything and some attitude while telling me so. And 400 k per hour covered everything with the hottest chick I have met in Medellin. Hurt to turn her down, but condoms are for rookies. Have also been quoted 1. 1 M for TLN but obviously thanked her and walked away. As far as I can tell, hottest chicks in Medellin are in Black Diamond and Hooters. Faces are ok but craziest bodies I've seen so far. The chicken tenders are ok.

ONLINE.

Probably could write an ebook on this section so email me and I'll send it to you for 11.99.

MILEROTICOS.

Medellin and Buenos Aires (Argentina) are the motherland for online bait and switch. There have been times I have showed up and the 'girl wasn't available' but several girls a few points below were. Walked out every time. This is very common in Medellin (and Bogota). Always ask for a picture before, "just to confirm" and some chicks will either stop responding (maybe they are real who knows) or send a disappearing photo. I can't remember if the bait and switches sent photos beforehand but surely you are filtering some out by asking for a photo or asking to do a quick video call. So much time can be wasted on this alone. Getting to a chick's place and once you're outside they want a deposit right before you enter the apartment. Some girls work out of casas but will charge 20 K or more through their online ad. An example: saw this chick for maybe 150 or 170 K but she works in a casa. As I arrived (and saw it was a casa) the mamasan asked if I had an appointment. I told her yes but I wanted to see the lineup anyways. She said no and ushered me to see my chick. I told the chick I wanted to see the lineup so she told the mamasan and I was introduced to two other women. Winded up sticking with the initial one and we were underway. BBBJ and very enthusiastic. Maybe 220 K but can't remember exactly. This is her but will attach a pic just incase the ad gets taken down. (PHOTO #5).

[URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/dejate-tentar-por-mi-magia-kathe-22-anos-traviesa-y-muy-ardiente/24535555/[/URL]

Pictures have to be at least 2-3 years old but still bangable. Very slutty. PSE.

Women like this have shown up, wanted payment upfront, many pounds heavier than the photos (almost a different woman) and then gave shitty service. If I could go back and tell my 6 month younger self to never pay up front, I would pay to do so. The other board members are right. She has less incentive to perform (at least in Colombia from my experience) sometimes it has worked out, more times than not it has not.

Attached are her photos. (PHOTO #6/#7).

Tinder.

Didn't have much experience with this as I didn't get many matches this time around, but one chick quoted like 500 K for an hour. Hotter chicks than her quote lower on Seeking.

Seeking.

Love hate relationship with Seeking. Conversed with maybe 150 girls-200 girls and whatsapped maybe 50 chicks or so in 2-3 months. Many chicks will also just stop responding eventually. Not double and triple texting so if they don't respond they ain't interested. From my personal experience, most chicks are semi or hardcore pros. I've had webcam models (hot) charge 700 K for a date and 2 very average girls each quote me 2,000 USD per month. One chick wanted to meet once or twice a month for that amount and the other said she met her previous arrangement nearly every day for that amount. The disparity in pricing displays (not only the delusion of the women) but the range of what you can experience on Seeking. I personally ended up with a chick who propositioned me for just sex a few times a month, covered or bareback. She said she was new to the site (had already been online for 6 months so obviously I was a bit weary) and only wanted to see one guy. Basically I paid her 600 K per meeting and we were supposed to move to a monthly allowance but I felt uneasy after some time. She had an IUD and was very inexperienced, but I felt as if I was being lied to quite often. I felt as if she would just say yes to anything I proposed just to get to the money in the straightest line possible. She could've easily been seeing more than just me and I didn't want to be barebacking along with other guys. Some of you motherfuckers are wilding. She deleted her profile and was mildly attractive (7) but deals like this can be found no doubt if you are willing to sift through the hundreds of hookers on the site. I think Seeking is worth it if you are in town for a few weeks but in person at the clubs would be more efficient for sure.

Attached is a chick who said she wouldn't leave her house unless a deal was made so I wished her all the best. Maybe J Balvin will fuck her. But this is an idea of what's on Seeking. (PHOTO #8) Another Seeking prospect offered 450 K for an evening one month, then the next month 500 K for an evening but after many back and forths I declined since she wouldn't want to get tested before hand (to bareback). If I remember correctly she said she would go bare if I was comfortable with that and I told her we 100% would need to get a test beforehand. She pushed BBBJ but I wasn't interested as I'm only in the market for carne con carne. (PHOTO #8. 5).

Facebook is an alternative to Seeking and I think it's the last frontier before Medellin truly becomes the next Dominican Republic (I haven't been yet). But basically the chicks there are casa quality (kind of ok sometimes) to Black Diamond quality (but may not respond to you) I've only met with two Facebook chicks so I'm not the most experienced member to talk on this but there are some basic tips that might help. Make more than one profile just incase Facebook either bans your profile or malfunctions. One of my fake profiles didn't receive 'friend suggestions' for months meanwhile my second fake profile received suggestions almost immediately. Neither are attached to my government identity. Many girls may not accept your requests but will post stories and respond to your messages. They are probably inundated with requests from guys who will never meet them so there's no point in accepting and conversing with everyone. I recommend a more straight forward approach if she clearly looks (or acts) like a hooker. Hard to tell sometimes. Quality ranges and some girls are not hooking, but look like they do, so don't be surprised if response rate is low. Attached is an example of what's on Facebook. (PHOTO #9) We exchanged whatsapps but we didn't meet as I had too much work to do and didn't have time. But she is now in Guadalajara (probably slinging that cat) just like many girls from Seeking and Facebook are. Many girls from Seeking have changed their location in the last 3-4 months to Cancun, Dominican Republic, Greece, Spain and even Montenegro. Medellin is experiencing a Pussy drain in the pro market for sure. There are fewer attractive non-pros now than there was two years ago, but there are still more than the global average.

I think there are so many non-pros to engage with that you never have to step inside of a casa, but if you so choose to pay for it, there are plenty of options.

This local site reviews women and has been helpful so maybe this could be a quick reference when you feel the testosterone start to turn over.

[URL]https://catadorcolombia.com/[/URL]

Linked is Tom Dick 69's post sharing many of the locations and pricing of the casas as recent as October 2022. Locations are more than likely the same, but prices may be slightly higher nowadays.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=2754314&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2754314.

Overall there are many options and routes, but the window for finding great deals in Medellin is steadily closing.

I'm also getting an erection while writing this.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2864772]Earlier today I used Uber to take a chica back home. She changed the destination. Well she had the driver take her somewhere different than her home address. I received an alert from Uber asking if I was ok since the driver went to a different destination. The fare was 6 mil lower than it would have been to the original address. So maybe a driver can verbally agree to drop someone off on a shorter ride than was already agreed to originally on the app. I saw this same chica last month and exactly the same thing happened so today I verified with her that she wanted to go back to where she was picked up earlier in the day. Still she changed it once in the car. Try to figure these chicas out good luck![/QUOTE]It's easy to explain. While in the car or even from your place she was able to arrange another cita not far from you and no doubts the next guy had to pay "mas taxi" that was already paid by you but he got surprisingly fast chica delivery. This has happened to me several times LOL - make sure she showers and rinses her mouth with Listerine prior you do anything with her.

Yes, this is the way rideshare apps work. When the driver deviates from the destination you receive a safety alert unless the account owner had changed the destination from the app. Had the final fare been more than the original amount quoted, you would have been able to dispute it for a discount or refund. As I wrote previously, I've never been turned down when I've had to dispute fares. I haven't had girls change destinations but that is more about how I vet girls than it is about the ride share apps.

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2864772]Earlier today I used Uber to take a chica back home. She changed the destination. Well she had the driver take her somewhere different than her home address. I received an alert from Uber asking if I was ok since the driver went to a different destination. The fare was 6 mil lower than it would have been to the original address. So maybe a driver can verbally agree to drop someone off on a shorter ride than was already agreed to originally on the app. I saw this same chica last month and exactly the same thing happened so today I verified with her that she wanted to go back to where she was picked up earlier in the day. Still she changed it once in the car. Try to figure these chicas out good luck![/QUOTE]

I don't think I would like to be on a motorcycle in the tunnel or on the highways leading to it.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2864752]One big difference I noticed since using the ride share motorcycles is that the motos don't have to pay peajes like how normal cars and taxis do. So if you're traveling a route that has rolls such as using the tunnel to the MDE airport, using a motor can be considerably less expensive.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Haxagonus;2864840]Cover for la mansion is 50 k?[/QUOTE]Yes, it's been that since they opened it to the public.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2864790]Well another one bites the dust. American 40-45 years old celebrating his birthday took 2 Venezuelans to his room. They suspect he was scoped. And he was at a hotel, not airbnb. Enjoy Poblando guys. I will stay downtown until the cows come home; there is no way you are not getting me around that Parque Lleras area. That place is bad luck.

[URL]https://www.minuto30.com/extranjero-muerto-en-hotel-del-poblado/1516647/[/URL][/QUOTE]For many years I have been saying that Poblado is more dangerous than Centro. All the deaths I know of have happened in the so called safe area. I see in CTG another guy was killed for not giving his gold chain he was wearing in public to two guys with guns. Myself I'm looking for greener pastures to hang my hat. Guess what, it will be my choice if I decide to share the location. I have seen enough passport bros and guys here on three day trips who justifly paying 400 K for short time because it is cheaper than the States.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2864939]For many years I have been saying that Poblado is more dangerous than Centro. All the deaths I know of have happened in the so called safe area. I see in CTG another guy was killed for not giving his gold chain he was wearing in public to two guys with guns. Myself I'm looking for greener pastures to hang my hat. Guess what, it will be my choice if I decide to share the location. I have seen enough passport bros and guys here on three day trips who justifly paying 400 K for short time because it is cheaper than the States.[/QUOTE]Guy in his 40's taking two Venicas to his to his room sounds line he was showing off and a prime target.

The more you blend in the less likely you'll get robbed.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2864810]Hotel looks like Provenza lofts. If so I've stayed there.[/QUOTE]You are correct. I walked over there on my lunch break and that's the place it happened.

[QUOTE=CK465;2864980]Guy in his 40's taking two Venicas to his to his room sounds line he was showing off and a prime target.

The more you blend in the less likely you'll get robbed.[/QUOTE]The key word here is Venezuelans. I was trying to warn you guys about the a cpl months ago and with the exception of Elvis, everyone else was acting like I was being Racist or Nationalist or whatever you want to call it. But the fact remains that venecas are thieves just looking for their next target to rob / scope / kill.

Maybe if this guy had read some of my posts on here then he would still be alive, but then again probably not, because like most of you guys you don't listen to someone with experience. You go off and do whatever you want and then shit like what happened to this guy well those are the consequences.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2865023]The key word here is Venezuelans. I was trying to warn you guys about the a cpl months ago and with the exception of Elvis, everyone else was acting like I was being Racist or Nationalist or whatever you want to call it. But the fact remains that venecas are thieves just looking for their next target to rob / scope / kill.

Maybe if this guy had read some of my posts on here then he would still be alive, but then again probably not, because like most of you guys you don't listen to someone with experience. You go off and do whatever you want and then shit like what happened to this guy well those are the consequences.[/QUOTE]Well I've been hangin in Colombia since the late 90's.

Trouble was abound before the Vennies arrived.

There are sweethearts and thieves from all parts.

Keep one eye open at all times.

Be a bit paranoid.

That's what got this guy in trouble, he let his guard down, or was unfortunately naive and unlucky.

Your advice to avoid all Vennies isn't really the answer.

Be vigilant of all of them is better.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2865055]Well I've been hangin in Colombia since the late 90's.

Trouble was abound before the Vennies arrived.

There are sweethearts and thieves from all parts.

Keep one eye open at all times.

Be a bit paranoid.

That's what got this guy in trouble, he let his guard down, or was unfortunately naive and unlucky.

Your advice to avoid all Vennies isn't really the answer.

Be vigilant of all of them is better.[/QUOTE]I'm. Not saying you have to avoid all vennies. That would mean avoiding 3/4 of the street girls in botero LOL. What I'm saying is be extra cautious when you are dealing with them. Asume they are all theiving and out to get you until proven otherwise.

Probably better to fuck them in a short time hotel such as Botero Real atleast the first few times until you get to know them and see that they aren't trying to steal. Even then be very careful when dealing with them.

Since the incident in January I have implemented a strict 0 tolerance alcohol policy as well, if the ***** even so much as asks for a beer the cita is off. The point of my citas is for raw unprotected sex for the least amount of money possible, not for sitting around bullshitting drinking beer or liquor while the ***** is plotting to scope you.

Just my thoughts and actions. Take it or leave it.

-Gabacho.

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2865000]You are correct. I walked over there on my lunch break and that's the place it happened.[/QUOTE]All you had to do was watch the video and see the pictures. In the video you can see Kokoriko restaurant across the street. Google map all the Kokoriko restaurants and there is only one in the area. See the picture where the Provenza Lofts is blurred. Go to Google Street View. Locate the Kokoriko restaurant and turn the picture around and see "Provenza Lofts" on the building. Just an easier way to verify.

New taco place across from The Church in Centro. I went in and looked at the menu. Listed what they had and some of the ingredients with clouds / bubbles where they enter the prices. Guess what was in the clouds / bubbles? Right! Not a damn thing. I walked out. Stupid stupid stupid!

During COVID lockdown I wanted to look like a local and frugal. I would carry a "D1" convenience store bag with a bag of something light like a bag of chips or popcorn in it. Less chance of the police messing with me and give me a reason to be out when in reality I was walking to a brothel.

I know where all the Vennies disappeared to. Now some people will need to return the USA. That Biden a-hole had even found a way to F-up my hunting.

[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/11/01/red-light-district-erupts-in-new-york-with-influx-of-venezuelan-prostitutes/[/URL]

Photoprepagos, Skokka, and Mileroticos gave me such a headache in jus 7 days time. They have old pictures when the girl was younger, pictures of girls no longer there to draw you in, photoshopped pictures, etc. I am pretty sure that Santa's Spa, Dating House, and Angeles Spa are all one and the same. Except that Angeles Spa requires a 30,000 viewing fee if you do not take a girl. Just FYI. Just tell them you are at Santa's Spa or Dating House and not Angeles Spa. So damn stupid. This place is filled with silicone. Do me a favor and ask for the black girl Gina. See if they have one of the Latinas come over and try to convince you she is Gina and black. If they do, try your best not to break down crying with laughter. If they do and you laugh, you owe me a beer.

[URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/caro-la-mujer-mas-candente-cuento-con-sitio-en-laureles-deliciosa-peli-negra/15771935//[/URL]

This girl was only asking 470,000 COP. Crazy cheap!

[URL] https://co.skokka.com/prepagos/medellin/hola-me-llamo-sofia-tengo-18-anitos-co1rk2a3o/?pck=01d507[/URL]

I believe all the 80,000 COP listed are at the same location. Two have been taken off the list but probably still available. Bianca had great fake tits (super small scar), fun, good sex. Be careful. There was a red head there who had a pretty face and big boobs that were real but had fat ass. She tried for 160,000 COP. I reminder her of the ad and she went to the 80,000. Bianca was busy so I was going to try Angy and she wanted 90,000 COP. Hate the BS games and said "NO". She dropped to 80,000 but she already informed me she would be a lousy lay so I waited for Bianca.

[URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/area-medellin/50000-100000-pesos[/URL]

[URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/area-medellin/amante-del-buen-sexo-complaciente-y-entregada-id-h3msx[/URL]

[URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/area-medellin/nueva-perfecta-para-complacerte-en-tus-deseos-id-vmpec[/URL]

She girl was posted everywhere. She exists. I swear (85% sure) I was walking up Carrera 70 Laureles and I passed by her when we were crossing a street with her coming towards me. She is thick in the ass and somewhat thighs. Tall too. I think 5'8" (173 cm).

[URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/candela-actriz-porno-sitio-super-discreto-un-experiencia-difernte-con-una-madura/21182724/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2865023]The key word here is Venezuelans. I was trying to warn you guys about the a cpl months ago and with the exception of Elvis, everyone else was acting like I was being Racist or Nationalist or whatever you want to call it. But the fact remains that venecas are thieves just looking for their next target to rob / scope / kill.

Maybe if this guy had read some of my posts on here then he would still be alive, but then again probably not, because like most of you guys you don't listen to someone with experience. You go off and do whatever you want and then shit like what happened to this guy well those are the consequences.[/QUOTE]I think the factor here was that he got 2 girls, venezuelan or not. You are already at a disavantage if the 2 girls are in tag team to mug gringos, even more if they don't spear a dime of spanish.

But true also, from many of my colombian friends and contacts, they all mention that venezuelans are a plague disrupting the regular business that the colombianas had. One doesn't shit where you eat, is what they say, but since the venecas come and go to their country, they do take a dump where the colombianas regularly eat.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere;2865098]I know where all the Vennies disappeared to. Now some people will need to return the USA. That Biden a-hole had even found a way to F-up my hunting.

[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/11/01/red-light-district-erupts-in-new-york-with-influx-of-venezuelan-prostitutes/[/URL]..[/QUOTE]Yes, I posted about this several months ago as well. How this jack off Joe Biden is allowing all the Venezuelan criminals into the United States. Now you have Veneca prostitutes on the streets of NYC soliciting high school boys LOL. And I'm sure there are Tren de Aragua dudes are there too. Won't be long before you see the same shoot then steal robbery tactics, that are common in Bogota, on the streets of the United States.

The US needs to round up all the Venezuelans and put them into concentration camps such as the FEMA camps that were built in the 2000's. At least until they can be repatriated back to Venezuela.

It will however be amusing to see how the local authorities of the pussy prison, USA react to all of this.

Hate to be a dick, but once again I told you so.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2864933]I don't think I would like to be on a motorcycle in the tunnel or on the highways leading to it.[/QUOTE]Motorcycles are not allowed in the tunnel.

That is correct. I decided not to mention that because I did not want to see another influx of "content" from the experts in the the stupid shit in Medellin discussion.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2865234]Motorcycles are not allowed in the tunnel.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2865288]That is correct. I decided not to mention that because I did not want to see another influx of "content" from the experts in the the stupid shit in Medellin discussion.[/QUOTE]I've never actually used a moto taxi to go thru the tunel del oriente to get the the MDE airport. I was just hypothesising that it would be cheaper than a regular taxi or Uber based on the rates I have seen. For example in Cali I used a Picap moto taxi to get to the airport and it was 22 k while indriver and cabify were starting out at 60 k to 70 k.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2865288]That is correct. I decided not to mention that because I did not want to see another influx of "content" from the experts in the the stupid shit in Medellin discussion.[/QUOTE]Not sure if the map is showing the tunnel route or another route but on the Picap app (moto taxi) it is showing a fare of 25 k from hotel Nutibara to the MDE airport.

Here's a screenshot.

Gringo shot in the stomach at the entrance of the Oviedo mall in the El Poblado, while resisting robbery.

[URL]https://www.alertapaisa.com/noticias/valle-de-aburra/un-australiano-fue-herido-al-parecer-al-evitar-que-le-robaran-en-medellin[/URL]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2864790]Well another one bites the dust. American 40-45 years old celebrating his birthday took 2 Venezuelans to his room. They suspect he was scoped. And he was at a hotel, not airbnb. Enjoy Poblando guys. I will stay downtown until the cows come home; there is no way you are not getting me around that Parque Lleras area. That place is bad luck.

[URL]https://www.minuto30.com/extranjero-muerto-en-hotel-del-poblado/1516647/[/URL][/QUOTE]Yes it is. My last trip the Nov before the pandemic ended up in Lleras mostly to dine, walk around and have some brews. I wasn't looking for any action one night but this gal suckered me and took her back to my hotel in Poblado. Damage not too bad ($75 US) however service not so good. I do almost all my p4 p in the MPs. Next time may try some SWs in Centro however only in the day and if I can get a small room nearby.

How is Las Conejitas strip club these days? Had a smoking hot 9 for short sexy session in 2005 for only $18!

Another trip I stayed in a hotel right off to the side of CC Oviedo and one night when walking back from Hard Rock saw three younger men that didn't look up to any good. That was in 2018 I believe.

I get all over the valley in the day but at night hunker down and avoid Lleras as much as possible. My first visit Medallo in 2005 Lleras was really chill.

Is getting really scary with all the scoping. One You Tuber says to stay off the dating apps. AND never more than one chica. AND best to know some Spanish to hear what they may be up to.

Has anyone had luck (or trouble) picking up an Uber at MDE when you arrive after midnight? My flight arrives at 1:30 AM. I'm guessing taxi might be my only option?

When did that happen?

[QUOTE=JohnnieCash;2865448]Gringo shot in the stomach at the entrance of the Oviedo mall in the El Poblado, while resisting robbery.

[URL]https://www.alertapaisa.com/noticias/valle-de-aburra/un-australiano-fue-herido-al-parecer-al-evitar-que-le-robaran-en-medellin[/URL][/QUOTE]

The bus, uber, and didi are 24/7. Taxis are available but they will want to charge a premium at that hour. Have a safe and enjoyable visit.

[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2865610]Has anyone had luck (or trouble) picking up an Uber at MDE when you arrive after midnight? My flight arrives at 1:30 AM. I'm guessing taxi might be my only option?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2865610]Has anyone had luck (or trouble) picking up an Uber at MDE when you arrive after midnight? My flight arrives at 1:30 AM. I'm guessing taxi might be my only option?[/QUOTE]No problem at all. At any time. I prefer the Ubers vs the taxis. Because taxis scams. The ride from the airport is like 90 to 100 k. If you go back to my first post ever you will see I paid 200 k to my first taxis because I didn't know any better.

Went to la isla at 11 pm November 3. They had an event. Egyptian theme.

It was the most packed I've ever seen. Cover was 70 k instead of the usual 50 k. So when they say the cover was 80 k that one time I believe it now. When I left at 2 am over heard English guy say they raised it to 75 k.

Talked to a guy while I was there. He was drinking coke I was drinking electrolit. Well off dude. Mate said he has no problem buying a bottle but even though there were some seats place was packed an he said he asked waiters if they would bring to a seat and bring him a bottle. He had no problem paying for the bottle but the waiters for some reason were saying nah. So mate left. No girls no drinks.

I asked the girl the best ass there to go upstairs she said later she got to get propina. I'm like ok I'll wait. She did 500 rounds asking for propina. It was like 5:30 I'm like fuck this I'm going to ask another girl. I did her before last year. He ass is smaller this time but she will do. She says the same thing. Got to get propina and do rounds. So I'm like if she's going to take two hours like the other girl I'm like I'll take that as a no.

There were no places to sit and waiters were removing individual people for bigger groups that would pay more. Some dumbass waiter came up to me and was like broski you got to gtfo because you haven't bought any drinks in the last 2 hours I'm like wtf you talking about I have this electrolit he's like buy something else or GTFO. I'm like I'm going to get a girl he's like what girls? Mate is trying usher me out and I'm like fuck off and I go to the bar to buy a Gatorade but the dumbass is following me and he's like nah you got to buy alcohol and I'm like I don't drink but I buy a tequila for 90 k. I'll say that again. 90 k I think it's usually 35 or 60 but maybe the event raised the prices or the bartender and waiter and trying to play me. I say that because they wouldn't let me pay with card which I usually pay with and there's no problem. Anyways I pay cash and the dude fucks off.

Quality at la isla is the same as always. Only a few girls I would do. The rest are above average but not worth 550 k.

After the guy leaves. I see a YouTuber I follow since I was in high school. I go talk to him hey nice to meet you love your content keep up the good work and I leave. He has 1. 5 million subscribers. His name is jimmy zhang. Surprising to see a guy like him there given his type of content. Love him tho he's awesome. Don't know if should even say that he was there.

Anyways the girls I talked to just love propina so much that they don't have time to go upstairs. I finally see some one I would go upstairs with. It's the last girl I talked about in my other la isla post. She tells one time there were two Hollywood actors there. People wouldn't leave them alone she said LOL.

Left. Spent basically 800 k given the drinks tips and the girl. Including Ubers.

Only going to la isla now. And staying with my one cam girl and another from mileroticos but that's it. Still have to try Loutron and fase dos.

Not going to la isla during events tho. Fuck that. All girls want it propina in those days and the ration of men to women is worse than other days. To many mane compared to women and the place is so packed. Can't find a seat and the waiters hound you.

[QUOTE=Haxagonus;2865673]Went to la isla at 11 pm November 3. They had an event. Egyptian theme.

It was the most packed I've ever seen. Cover was 70 k instead of the usual 50 k. So when they say the cover was 80 k that one time I believe it now. When I left at 2 am over heard English guy say they raised it to 75 k.

Talked to a guy while I was there. He was drinking coke I was drinking electrolit. Well off dude. Mate said he has no problem buying a bottle but even though there were some seats place was packed an he said he asked waiters if they would bring to a seat and bring him a bottle. He had no problem paying for the bottle but the waiters for some reason were saying nah. So mate left. No girls no drinks.

I asked the girl the best ass there to go upstairs she said later she got to get propina. I'm like ok I'll wait. She did 500 rounds asking for propina. It was like 5:30 I'm like fuck this I'm going to ask another girl. I did her before last year. He ass is smaller this time but she will do. She says the same thing. Got to get propina and do rounds. So I'm like if she's going to take two hours like the other girl I'm like I'll take that as a no..[/QUOTE]That's crazy you saw jimmy zhang, haha his content has been getting better. I was just their Nov 1st LOL. Place was decent, but I want to see new places.

[QUOTE=Haxagonus;2865670]No problem at all. At any time. I prefer the Ubers vs the taxis. Because taxis scams. The ride from the airport is like 90 to 100 k. If you go back to my first post ever you will see I paid 200 k to my first taxis because I didn't know any better.[/QUOTE]Thanks to both you and to Knowledge. I definitely prefer Uber. I've never been had by the taxi drivers. I always use the white taxis outside and always confirm the price before I get in. I think last time was 98 K or something like that. I was just worried that ubers wouldn't be as plentiful in Rio Negro at that hour.

Thanks again!

Here is a link to a tragic story:

[URL]https://qhubomedellin.com/actualidad/local/gringo-murio-quemado-en-medellin-LH23068131[/URL]

And here is the story as copied from the newspaper:

A US citizen who had arrived in the capital of Antioquia to celebrate his birthday was burned to death after suffering an accident in an apartment in El Poblado.

You can also read: IN PHOTO: In the Medellíand River they found the body of a man who was beaten to death.

The tragic case occurred on October 27 in a building located on the fourth floor of the Chapelet building. That day Andrew Adesheye Shotoyo was in the apartment located on Calle 2 Sur and Carrera 18, LOS Naranjos neighborhood, visiting a friend who had invited him to the property.

Bad manipulation?

Based on a judicial report known to Q'HUBO, the wife of this 39-year-old foreigner's friend approached a fireplace that ran with alcohol. When she tried to light it apparently with gasoline, the flames reached the pimpina that she had in her hands. Out of her fright, the woman threw her, with such bad luck that she fell to the gringo and his companion.

This is the Chapelet building, where the emergency occurred on October 27. / PHOTO: ANDRÉS FELIPE OSORIO GARCÍA.

This is the Chapelet building, where the emergency occurred on October 27. / PHOTO: ANDRÉS FELIPE OSORIO GARCÍA.

The flames reached 40% of the American citizen's body and also caused serious burns to his friend, another man from the United States.

You can also read: There is concern about the disappearance of a Colombian family in Mexico, what happened?

Both were helped by the people who were in the property and taken to a care center. Finally, Andrew Adesheye Shotoyo ended up in the burn ward of the San Vicente Fundacióand Hospital, receiving medical attention.

The man had to be intubated because the flames affected his airways. So after fighting for his life for 7 days, he died despite the doctors' efforts.

He was Andrew Adesheye Shotoyo. / PHOTO: COURTESY.

He was Andrew Adesheye Shotoyo. / PHOTO: COURTESY.

There are already 2.

The death of this foreigner is added to that of another countryman that occurred last October 31 , in a hotel in Provence. That morning and in a bathtub, Jhony Jerome was found without vital signs. The causes of the death of this man, who was turning 45 that day, remained to be established.

The authorities are trying to determine if he died of scopolamination, since hours before he had been chatting with 2 women, or if his death was due to some other circumstance.

[QUOTE=Haxagonus;2865673]

Quality at la isla is the same as always. Only a few girls I would do. The rest are above average but not worth 550 k.

Left. Spent basically 800 k given the drinks tips and the girl. Including Ubers.

Only going to la isla now. And staying with my one cam girl and another from mileroticos but that's it. Still have to try Loutron and fase dos.

[/QUOTE]I don't get it. Why do you keep coming back to La Isla like it is the only option? 800 k will get you pretty much any girl you want in MDE, online or offline. You are not a weekend warrior, you have plenty of time in MDE to look for girls elsewhere.

[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2865610]Has anyone had luck (or trouble) picking up an Uber at MDE when you arrive after midnight? My flight arrives at 1:30 AM. I'm guessing taxi might be my only option?[/QUOTE]Don't sweat it bro, Ubers easy even that hour but might be 20-30 mil more which is more than fair. I used them 3 wks ago similar time.

[QUOTE=Haxagonus;2865673]...Only going to la isla now. ....[/QUOTE]Have you thought about that you are rewarding people who treat you badly so they will continue to do so?

I read other threads but when it comes to this thread I occasionally have an unpleasant feeling. Flaming and shade-throwing here is sky-high. Too many guys comparing their dick sizes on the keyboard.

Can we try to keep this to experiences and information sharing thread only. I know the city has become weekend warrior paradise. Everyone including me contributed to this but I think it's just changing times. Newbies are even worse. They can RTFF but just come and ask the extremely stupid questions like - 'where will I find the most beautiful women. Which is a better city" etc.

I spent 9 k traveling around the country for a month recently. I had a blast, did everything from 20 mil BJ at plaza caicedo in Cali to 1.2 millions pesos a night chica from san Javier. I am just surprised that my dick is still working.

Anyways, I am not writing to rant so here is a small vignette.

Back in Old Sam, I am working with a client in the city of angels. Later, in the*evening, I took an uber to my*place after a long day listening to*corporate BS by techies. The rider who picks me up is a mid sixties older gentleman who looks like a Latino. We talk and he tells me he is from Medellin. I tell him I love paisas. We hit it off.

His 22 year old daughter who goes by Camila has been here in the US for the past 3 years and he has been visiting her every six months or so. What was fucking interesting is what this chica was doing. She is a stripper at one of the premium stripclubs. I didn't*believe*him initially. He showed me pics of the family and then took me to the actual stripclub. Lo and behold, the girl is working the night shift and was drinking with 2 patrons. She looks up and recognizes the dad and smiles at me. I get a couple of beers for me and him and sit at the bar area. Within 10 min DJ announces Camila onstage. She has great stage presence and moves well. I look at the dad and he is looking at me smiling and winking while Camila is topless and working the pole.

What an interesting day. I couldn't*believe*it. I thought Colombians are more religious and prudish compared to bundas.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2865898]Have you thought about that you are rewarding people who treat you badly so they will continue to do so?[/QUOTE]They don't treat me badly often. This was the first or second time that happened. Either way me stopping from going isn't going to put a dent in the Isla's pocket I calculated it and seems like they make 100 k revenue every month. If like 300 people come in throughout the course of a week. I went on Halloween and the place was empty the waiter came up to me and was like you going to drink broski and I said nothing and he left me alone. It's the even that out a stick up their booty. That's why I'm not going during events. Not going is definitely going to put a dent in my fun tho. Seeing as there isn't many other places that has better quality for the price.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2865831]I don't get it. Why do you keep coming back to La Isla like it is the only option? 800 k will get you pretty much any girl you want in MDE, online or offline. You are not a weekend warrior, you have plenty of time in MDE to look for girls elsewhere.[/QUOTE]Wait. That's true. I never really thought about it that way. I think what's stopping me is that it's difficult to find the same quality outside la isla. Going to las isla Thursday to Saturday I know I can find someone I like. Online is not where it's at. In seeking I won't find them. There have been a handful that are hot. But I don't want to spend time going on a date and things like that with a girl that's not as a good as the best isla girl on the weekend. Facebook is filled with scammers and it takes time to find a good one and if you do she might not be the best quality.

I have try to try fase dos or Loutron but aside from that I don't think anything compares to the efficiency and quality of la isla. Rudeness from waiters during events is something that I might just have to deal with. There's also gustos if I can negotiate to 600 k I might take it.

[QUOTE=Haxagonus;2866022]Wait. In seeking I won't find them. There have been a handful that are hot. But I don't want to spend time going on a date and things like that with a girl that's not as a good as the best isla girl on the weekend. Facebook is filled with scammers and it takes time to find a good one and if you do she might not be the best quality.

I have try to try fase dos or Loutron but aside from that I don't think anything compares to the efficiency and quality of la isla. Rudeness from waiters during events is something that I might just have to deal with. There's also gustos if I can negotiate to 600 k I might take it.[/QUOTE]You don't have to wine and dine them, if you don't want to. Dinner is not a requirement, but it helps tremendously to break the ice and have a nice GFE session after. You can find hot girls on Seeking, Tinder, or Facebook. Takes time, but is worth it. You are not in a rush anyways. The only advantage of strip clubs and casas is that you can check out the girls in person. But you typically get average, mechanical, covered service at a steep price. La Isla is a place where you go party with your boys. Going there alone is kinda pathetic. Especially if you don't drink. And for 800k (with all the fees) all you get is a 30 minute covered quickie. My understanding is you are a younger dude, 30 years old or so, you can find better girls, even freebies, elsewhere. La Isla can always be your plan be in case your date flakes.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2866056]You don't have to wine and dine them, if you don't want to. Dinner is not a requirement, but it helps tremendously to break the ice and have a nice GFE session after. You can find hot girls on Seeking, Tinder, or Facebook. Takes time, but is worth it. You are not in a rush anyways. The only advantage of strip clubs and casas is that you can check out the girls in person. But you typically get average, mechanical, covered service at a steep price. La Isla is a place where you go party with your boys. Going there alone is kinda pathetic. Especially if you don't drink. And for 800k (with all the fees) all you get is a 30 minute covered quickie. My understanding is you are a younger dude, 30 years old or so, you can find better girls, even freebies, elsewhere. La Isla can always be your plan be in case your date flakes.[/QUOTE]Getting with regular girls in Medellin is almost impossible for Americans. Especially as a white guy. They know we are there for hookers, so a regular girl wouldn't be caught dead with us because people will think she is a hooker.

I guess this applies more to infrequent or short term visitors, depending on what "regular girls" means. Maybe "Americans" is used as a reference to people who aren't Colombian? The broader the generalization the greater the potential for misinterpretation.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2866162]Getting with regular girls in Medellin is almost impossible for Americans. Especially as a white guy. They know we are there for hookers, so a regular girl wouldn't be caught dead with us because people will think she is a hooker.[/QUOTE]

Good evening fellow perverts, I'm going to be in Medellin next week (11th-19th,) and just had a couple of questions:

A.) Any forum members more experienced with the area want to meet up, grab a drink and a bite, my treat? Would love to get a better lay of the land.

Be.) Would love some tips for setting up a second Facebook for the purposes of finding some of these much conversed about FB Girls. Do you just use a fake name, real pictures of yourself, and set the location to Medellin? Curious how one goes about this whole process, and I obviously don't want ANY overlap with my civilian Facebook, this needs to be real hush hush.

See.) Best locations for the exchange of USD to COP. As usual, I procrastinated, and it's a bit late to use my regular bank, so it looks like I'll be flying in with USD and figuring it out.

Feel free to DM me, and many thanks in advance for any information provided, my only mongering outside of the country has been Tijuana, and this seems like an entirely different ball game. I really do appreciate everyone on these boards for taking the time to educate and inform. Hope why'all had a wonderful weekend and a smooth rest of your week!

I'm here in Medellin with a group of friends, if anyone wants to grab a beer let me know, PM me or something or just leave a note here and I'll PM you back. So far the intel I can give is that right on calle 10 close to parque lleras and provenza there are a lot of working girls mostly Venezuelan it seems. Haven't taken anyone but I've seen guys talk to the girls and take them. I went to a reggaeton club called Riko in provenza it was really good. Reggaeton all night.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2866162]Getting with regular girls in Medellin is almost impossible for Americans. Especially as a white guy. They know we are there for hookers, so a regular girl wouldn't be caught dead with us because people will think she is a hooker.[/QUOTE]Well if you are there for the hookers, are they wrong? If you are a White American guy that does not speak Spanish and only stays in Poblado, what are the chances? I am a Black American guy that speaks Spanish, has never stayed in Poblado and knows more of the country than them. No problem getting regular girls.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2866162]Getting with regular girls in Medellin is almost impossible for Americans. Especially as a white guy. They know we are there for hookers, so a regular girl wouldn't be caught dead with us because people will think she is a hooker.[/QUOTE]I managed to meet some amazing regular women in Bogota and Medellin either through Badoo or FB. You do have to put the effort into it and have some spanish so that you can have a conversation without using the translator much.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2866338]Well if you are there for the hookers, are they wrong? If you are a White American guy that does not speak Spanish and only stays in Poblado, what are the chances? I am a Black American guy that speaks Spanish, has never stayed in Poblado and knows more of the country than them. No problem getting regular girls.[/QUOTE]I'm not saying they are wrong at all. First timers are asking how hard is it to get with a 100% non pro in Medellin. I'm saying if you are white, don't speak Spanish, it will be almost impossible. Most girls on tinder are working girls. I can't speak for other cities in Colombia. If you are brown or black and speak Spanish, you have a leg up over us whites from Europe or America. You can bullshit your way through "why are you in Colombia".

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2866162]Getting with regular girls in Medellin is almost impossible for Americans. Especially as a white guy. They know we are there for hookers, so a regular girl wouldn't be caught dead with us because people will think she is a hooker.[/QUOTE]As it should be. If you are serious about having a relationship and some sort of future then of course, regular girls. But if all you want is what most here want then no need to lie and pretend you want something more. The more honest approach is pay for play.

As to the second part of your comment. If she is a "regular girl" and she is with you she is either looking for a relationship or looking for money.

Unless, in the very rare situation that you are young and she is just looking for sex. Dream on.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2866162]Getting with regular girls in Medellin is almost impossible for Americans. Especially as a white guy. They know we are there for hookers, so a regular girl wouldn't be caught dead with us because people will think she is a hooker.[/QUOTE]That's absolute nonsense. On the average Colombians treat their women like shit. Any guy with a little game, a solid job, and who treats their girl like a princess can do well in Colombia. My guess is your issues fall somewhere in the above.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2866474]I'm not saying they are wrong at all. First timers are asking how hard is it to get with a 100% non pro in Medellin. I'm saying if you are white, don't speak Spanish, it will be almost impossible. Most girls on tinder are working girls. I can't speak for other cities in Colombia. If you are brown or black and speak Spanish, you have a leg up over us whites from Europe or America. You can bullshit your way through "why are you in Colombia".[/QUOTE]MOST girls on Tinder (bumble, facebook, colombian cupid) are not working girls. Some of them are, no doubt about it, but they are not majority.

You are talking about weekend warriors, who come down there for party and pussy. They don't even have time to look for regular girls, and what's the point? But there are guys living down there full time, expats, or guys who stay there for extended periods of time, maxing out 180 days limit. They can afford to invest time and effort in finding non pros (even english speaking ones). Who doesn't want to date a decent white guy who has a solid job and some game (as the other poster mentioned), and who is not a weekend warrior?

Also, there is a huge semi-pros category of women. They are not working girls because they don't make a living selling pussy. But they do put out once in a while to supplement income or just have a good time with the right guy, travel, etc.

[QUOTE=MiamiSammy;2866492]On the average Colombians treat their women like shit.[/QUOTE]For some reason this is said on pretty much every thread on ISG. In which country do the men not treat the women like shit?

[QUOTE=MiamiSammy;2866492]That's absolute nonsense. On the average Colombians treat their women like shit. Any guy with a little game, a solid job, and who treats their girl like a princess can do well in Colombia. My guess is your issues fall somewhere in the above.[/QUOTE]To have game you need to speak Spanish. Period. What are you going to do point or use Google translate all night. To go up to a 9 at the park lleras dance clubs, and get a 100% regular girl is very hard. They will usually be with at least 2 other girls or a guy friend mixed in. Go up to a set like that with no Spanish and they will laugh at you as the working girl chasing American. They might not say it but will think it and you will feel very uncomfortable. All the attractive girls I saw on tinder were half dressed and look like hookers to me. I'm talking the attractive ones. The 5's and 6's are not part of this discussion.

As far as guys that live there for 180 days, of course they can get a regular girl. I'm talking about the guys that are asking that are there for 2 weeks.

With respect to obtaining pesos, you certainly can exchange USD for COP at the money changing places, but in my experience their rates are terrible. Instead, I withdraw from my regular bank account using my debit card at any of the ATMs that are at the airport and / or in Medellin if I didn't take out enough the first time.

US banks typically provide very close the exchange rate as posted on Google (USD to COP) and there's sometimes no ATM fee for the local bank when using a foreign ATM card. Not always true, but has happened occasionally. Either way, I get very close to the market rate vs. The low rates provided by the money exchange places.

One guy from the US I met in Medellin last time said that Bank of America charged zero fees for withdrawing from Banco de Caja Social (I think, might be Bancolombia) and their ATM also charged no fees, so it was a pure USD to COP transaction at the market rate.

Anyway, ATMs are the way to go.

Have fun!

[QUOTE=JeepDude1;2866305]Good evening fellow perverts, I'm going to be in Medellin next week (11th-19th,) and just had a couple of questions:

A.) Any forum members more experienced with the area want to meet up, grab a drink and a bite, my treat? Would love to get a better lay of the land.

Be.) Would love some tips for setting up a second Facebook for the purposes of finding some of these much conversed about FB Girls. Do you just use a fake name, real pictures of yourself, and set the location to Medellin? Curious how one goes about this whole process, and I obviously don't want ANY overlap with my civilian Facebook, this needs to be real hush hush.

See.) Best locations for the exchange of USD to COP. As usual, I procrastinated, and it's a bit late to use my regular bank, so it looks like I'll be flying in with USD and figuring it out.

Feel free to DM me, and many thanks in advance for any information provided, my only mongering outside of the country has been Tijuana, and this seems like an entirely different ball game. I really do appreciate everyone on these boards for taking the time to educate and inform. Hope why'all had a wonderful weekend and a smooth rest of your week![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2866530]For some reason this is said on pretty much every thread on ISG.[/QUOTE]Does not mean that it is true. Some girls are trying to find Captain Saveaho. Of course they are going to tell guys what they want to hear.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2866530]In which country do the men not treat the women like shit?[/QUOTE]In every country men treat their girls well. They even marry them. Most ISG posters are not dealing with the top 10% of girls in any country they visit. Most don't realize how tight that circle is.

Nomars777,

We must have met before and I didn't realize you were also on ISG. I've told dozens of guys that Banco Caja Social doesn't charge Bank of America debit card holders any fees. You can withdraw a maximum of 300 k pesos per transaction but you can do this multiple times. Banco Colombia charges 22,500. You get that days rate. It's a lot better than bringing dollars and losing 10% or more every time you need to change.

[QUOTE=Nomars777;2866558]With respect to obtaining pesos, you certainly can exchange USD for COP at the money changing places, but in my experience their rates are terrible. Instead, I withdraw from my regular bank account using my debit card at any of the ATMs that are at the airport and / or in Medellin if I didn't take out enough the first time.

US banks typically provide very close the exchange rate as posted on Google (USD to COP) and there's sometimes no ATM fee for the local bank when using a foreign ATM card. Not always true, but has happened occasionally. Either way, I get very close to the market rate vs. The low rates provided by the money exchange places.

One guy from the US I met in Medellin last time said that Bank of America charged zero fees for withdrawing from Banco de Caja Social (I think, might be Bancolombia) and their ATM also charged no fees, so it was a pure USD to COP transaction at the market rate.

Anyway, ATMs are the way to go.

Have fun![/QUOTE].

I've spent time in more than a few countries. I haven't found one yet where this ATM vs other methods is not rock solid.

[QUOTE=Nomars777;2866558]With respect to obtaining pesos, you certainly can exchange USD for COP at the money changing places, but in my experience their rates are terrible. Instead, I withdraw from my regular bank account using my debit card at any of the ATMs that are at the airport and / or in Medellin if I didn't take out enough the first time.

US banks typically provide very close the exchange rate as posted on Google (USD to COP) and there's sometimes no ATM fee for the local bank when using a foreign ATM card. Not always true, but has happened occasionally. Either way, I get very close to the market rate vs. The low rates provided by the money exchange places.

One guy from the US I met in Medellin last time said that Bank of America charged zero fees for withdrawing from Banco de Caja Social (I think, might be Bancolombia) and their ATM also charged no fees, so it was a pure USD to COP transaction at the market rate.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2866162]Getting with regular girls in Medellin is almost impossible for Americans. Especially as a white guy. They know we are there for hookers, so a regular girl wouldn't be caught dead with us because people will think she is a hooker.[/QUOTE]Biggest load of crap I've ever heard here on ISG.

I was just doing my weekly grocery shopping at D1 and as I was pricing the frozen entremuslos de pollo I heard "holaaa holaaa. " I looked up from the freezer and standing there was one of my paisa barrio chicas I've been fucking since August.

She came up to me and asked me "como esta" and gave me a big as hug in front of everyone and then called her mother to come and she even introduced me to her mother.

And she is not a hooker by any means, granted I help her out with 100 Lukas each time she fuxks me raw, but she is not in Botero or Poblado standing around looking for customers. She isn't on mil eroticos or photoprepagos or seeking or any of that shit either.

She is a single stay at home mother who lives with her own mother. And she says that the little bit of money that I give her helps her out more with buying diapers and food for her son than the help she gets from the child's father, which is basically nothing from what I understand.

[QUOTE=UrbanCowboy22;2866696]Nomars777,

We must have met before and I didn't realize you were also on ISG. I've told dozens of guys that Banco Caja Social doesn't charge Bank of America debit card holders any fees. You can withdraw a maximum of 300 k pesos per transaction but you can do this multiple times. Banco Colombia charges 22,500. You get that days rate. It's a lot better than bringing dollars and losing 10% or more every time you need to change..[/QUOTE]Davivienda also doesn't charge a fee and they have higher withdrawal limits. I've heard Scotiabank also but that one doesn't work with my card but it may work for Bank of America.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2866760]I've spent time in more than a few countries. I haven't found one yet where this ATM vs other methods is not rock solid.[/QUOTE]What about in Argentina or Cuba?

I've heard you can get better unofficial rates in Cuba than you can from ATMs. I did not benchmark so that may be an exception. The rates I got in Argentina from ATMs in 2018 were more competitive than what change agencies were offering. More recent visitors should pipe in with up to date information.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2866801]What about in Argentina or Cuba?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2866801]What about in Argentina or Cuba?[/QUOTE]I was in Argentina this time last year and crisp US bills were what you wanted to exchange. The inflation was so bad, the ATMs were hard to use because they would spit out stacks and stacks of bills.

Tickets are bought for next February, I've been watching a lot of recent passport bro videos to prepare and got access to the Prepago Google Map. The guy who created the map suggest I stat at Hotel Nutibara cause there literally plenty of spots to see workers but on here says it's not the best place to stay.

Theres an apartment near Parque de Bolvar I saw within my budget that I was considering staying and according to his map, El centro is only a 8 minute car ride, so can't go wrong there. Any advice on where to stay along with anything else? I'm ok with my beginner Spanish but I'm taking virtual classes up until the trip to improve my comprehension and fluency. I already know about how not to stick out, and how to be aware with my surroundings and not to bring the chicks to my room (that's my safe house) so no problem there, but any advice I'd appreciate it.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2866162]Getting with regular girls in Medellin is almost impossible for Americans. Especially as a white guy. They know we are there for hookers, so a regular girl wouldn't be caught dead with us because people will think she is a hooker.[/QUOTE]This is partially true. Not every American male visitor to Medellin is a monger although perhaps the majority are. The regular paisas would not be so stupid as to reject the advances of all Americans. In the rest of Colombia there is no such rejection because that stigma does not exist there.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2866792]Biggest load of crap I've ever heard here on ISG.

I was just doing my weekly grocery shopping at D1 and as I was pricing the frozen entremuslos de pollo I heard "holaaa holaaa. " I looked up from the freezer and standing there was one of my paisa barrio chicas I've been fucking since August.

She came up to me and asked me "como esta" and gave me a big as hug in front of everyone and then called her mother to come and she even introduced me to her mother.

And she is not a hooker by any means, granted I help her out with 100 Lukas each time she fuxks me raw, but she is not in Botero or Poblado standing around looking for customers. She isn't on mil eroticos or photoprepagos or seeking or any of that shit either.

She is a single stay at home mother who lives with her own mother. And she says that the little bit of money that I give her helps her out more with buying diapers and food for her son than the help she gets from the child's father, which is basically nothing from what I understand.[/QUOTE]That is what I'm talking about. You tell them [B]Gabacho[/B]. Your experience aligns with mine here in Colombia and the ones I have had all over the world. Professional tricks get it twisted when it comes to regular girls. They think that giving ANY kind of financial assistance makes a girl a prostitute. Thank you for posting a clear real life "boots on the ground" example of how that is not the case. Educate them brother!

[QUOTE=CK465;2866874]Tickets are bought for next February, I've been watching a lot of recent passport bro videos to prepare and got access to the Prepago Google Map. The guy who created the map suggest I stat at Hotel Nutibara cause there literally plenty of spots to see workers but on here says it's not the best place to stay.

Theres an apartment near Parque de Bolvar I saw within my budget that I was considering staying and according to his map, El centro is only a 8 minute car ride, so can't go wrong there. Any advice on where to stay along with anything else? I'm ok with my beginner Spanish but I'm taking virtual classes up until the trip to improve my comprehension and fluency. I already know about how not to stick out, and how to be aware with my surroundings and not to bring the chicks to my room (that's my safe house) so no problem there, but any advice I'd appreciate it.[/QUOTE]First timer should go with Nutibara if considering doing El Centro. First timer with beginner Spanish might not want El Centro depending on the size of the [I]cojones[/I]. But staying in Nutibara, you would want to bring the hookers there. That's kind of the point to staying there. At least to me.

[QUOTE=CK465;2866874]Tickets are bought for next February, I've been watching a lot of recent passport bro videos to prepare and got access to the Prepago Google Map. The guy who created the map suggest I stat at Hotel Nutibara cause there literally plenty of spots to see workers but on here says it's not the best place to stay.

Theres an apartment near Parque de Bolvar I saw within my budget that I was considering staying and according to his map, El centro is only a 8 minute car ride, so can't go wrong there. Any advice on where to stay along with anything else? I'm ok with my beginner Spanish but I'm taking virtual classes up until the trip to improve my comprehension and fluency. I already know about how not to stick out, and how to be aware with my surroundings and not to bring the chicks to my room (that's my safe house) so no problem there, but any advice I'd appreciate it.[/QUOTE]First timer should go with Nutibara if considering doing El Centro. First timer with beginner Spanish might not want El Centro depending on the size of the [I]cojones[/I]. But staying in Nutibara, you would want to bring the hookers there. That's kind of the point of staying there. At least to me. And things can definitely go wrong in an apartment near Parque Bolvar.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2866909]That is what I'm talking about. You tell them [B]Gabacho[/B]. Your experience aligns with mine here in Colombia and the ones I have had all over the world. Professional tricks get it twisted when it comes to regular girls. They think that giving ANY kind of financial assistance makes a girl a prostitute. Thank you for posting a clear real life "boots on the ground" example of how that is not the case. Educate them brother![/QUOTE]I think that trying to distinguish between "professional" and "regular" is what is not useful. Or whether she is a prostitute or not. I think most of us do not see it as a moral issue, and whether she is a single mom just looking for a bit of help to get by, or a sexually active woman who thinks that she might as well make some money having sex, or a full time prostitute it really doesn't matter. The risks are probably not all that different. Some of the more business like ones may take better care of their health, for example. Anyway most of us here are looking to pay or accepting that we will be paying for these relationships, whether once for a short time, or repeatedly.

The step between that and getting into a real relationship is the real risky one.

[QUOTE=CK465;2866874]... suggest I stat at Hotel Nutibara cause there literally plenty of spots to see workers but on here says it's not the best place to stay.

Theres an apartment near Parque de Bolvar I saw within my budget ....[/QUOTE]Nutibara will be easier to navigate and safer between the two choices. It's also closer to Metro.

[QUOTE=CK465;2866874]Tickets are bought for next February, I've been watching a lot of recent passport bro videos to prepare and got access to the Prepago Google Map. The guy who created the map suggest I stat at Hotel Nutibara cause there literally plenty of spots to see workers but on here says it's not the best place to stay.

Theres an apartment near Parque de Bolvar I saw within my budget that I was considering staying and according to his map, El centro is only a 8 minute car ride, so can't go wrong there. Any advice on where to stay along with anything else? I'm ok with my beginner Spanish but I'm taking virtual classes up until the trip to improve my comprehension and fluency. I already know about how not to stick out, and how to be aware with my surroundings and not to bring the chicks to my room (that's my safe house) so no problem there, but any advice I'd appreciate it.[/QUOTE]Parque de Bolivar and the area around there is not somewhere a first time visitor with limited Spanish is going to want to be walking around at. I highly suggest you stay at the Nutibara instead.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2866792]Biggest load of crap I've ever heard here on ISG.

I was just doing my weekly grocery shopping at D1 and as I was pricing the frozen entremuslos de pollo I heard "holaaa holaaa. " I looked up from the freezer and standing there was one of my paisa barrio chicas I've been fucking since August.

She came up to me and asked me "como esta" and gave me a big as hug in front of everyone and then called her mother to come and she even introduced me to her mother.

And she is not a hooker by any means, granted I help her out with 100 Lukas each time she fuxks me raw, but she is not in Botero or Poblado standing around looking for customers. She isn't on mil eroticos or photoprepagos or seeking or any of that shit either.

She is a single stay at home mother who lives with her own mother. And she says that the little bit of money that I give her helps her out more with buying diapers and food for her son than the help she gets from the child's father, which is basically nothing from what I understand.[/QUOTE]Keep telling yourself she isn't a hooker even tho you admitted you paid her. " I gave her money for diapers and food" blah blah. LOL.

There are no winners of these games of semantics.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2867014]Keep telling yourself she isn't a hooker even tho you admitted you paid her. " I gave her money for diapers and food" blah blah. LOL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2867014]Keep telling yourself she isn't a hooker even tho you admitted you paid her. " I gave her money for diapers and food" blah blah. LOL.[/QUOTE]She isn't out in the streets actively hooking. There is a difference.

Those apartment buildings around the park have liberal Airbnb policies, the administration committees don't enforce the government registration rules. That's why there are so many affordable apartments on offer. I saw an apartment that wasn't bad at all. The area is no more dicey than Nutibara and Plaza Botero during daylight hours but at night I am with you 100%. Your survival prospects are better around the Nutibara at night for sure.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2866956]Nutibara will be easier to navigate and safer between the two choices. It's also closer to Metro.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2867093]There are no winners of these games of semantics.[/QUOTE]I can say I never paid a hooker with his thinking because the money I gave them went for rent, food, gas, and kids. Of course it did. That's why they hook. I stand by my statement that a attractive 8 or 9 that never receives money for sex won't be caught dead with a obvious American who can't speak Spanish.

[QUOTE=CK465;2866874]Tickets are bought for next February, I've been watching a lot of recent passport bro videos to prepare and got access to the Prepago Google Map. The guy who created the map suggest I stat at Hotel Nutibara cause there literally plenty of spots to see workers but on here says it's not the best place to stay.

Theres an apartment near Parque de Bolvar I saw within my budget that I was considering staying and according to his map, El centro is only a 8 minute car ride, so can't go wrong there. Any advice on where to stay along with anything else? I'm ok with my beginner Spanish but I'm taking virtual classes up until the trip to improve my comprehension and fluency. I already know about how not to stick out, and how to be aware with my surroundings and not to bring the chicks to my room (that's my safe house) so no problem there, but any advice I'd appreciate it.[/QUOTE]Any chance I could get a peek at that Prepago Map? I'm going for my first visit very soon, and I would happily share anything of value that I learn during my trip. Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2867094]She isn't out in the streets actively hooking. There is a difference.[/QUOTE]Here is video from 90 day fiancé of a Colombian girl mistakenly admitting to getting paid to go on a date. She then slaps the guy when she basically admitted to being a ho in her past.

[URL]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_-q4jHxLjEA[/URL]

[QUOTE=Huacho;2866941]First timer should go with Nutibara if considering doing El Centro. First timer with beginner Spanish might not want El Centro depending on the size of the [I]cojones[/I]. But staying in Nutibara, you would want to bring the hookers there. That's kind of the point of staying there. At least to me. And things can definitely go wrong in an apartment near Parque Bolvar.[/QUOTE]Ok. Found some good rates on some third party sites for my stay at Nutibara. Would you guys recommend booking through a third party site? Also, is Nutibara guest friendl?, haven't found a solid answer, it's always been discouraged to bring girls back to your spot, is Nutiara different that girls have to come down with you after the session in order to leave?

Lastly, everyone talks about the taking the bus to the hotel from the airport, besides Uber, anyone have any recommendations besides the taxis that rip you off?

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2867194]I can say I never paid a hooker with his thinking because the money I gave them went for rent, food, gas, and kids. Of course it did. That's why they hook. I stand by my statement that a attractive 8 or 9 that never receives money for sex won't be caught dead with a obvious American who can't speak Spanish.[/QUOTE]And I stand by my statement that Paola Ojos Chinos is not a real hooker, she just fucks me for a little extra help that she needs. According to your thinking any woman who receives any kind of gift or financial help would be considered a hooker. You must be one of those professional tricks that SubCmdr was referring to LOL.

[QUOTE=CK465;2867214]Lastly, everyone talks about the taking the bus to the hotel from the airport, besides Uber, anyone have any recommendations besides the taxis that rip you off?[/QUOTE]If you take the bus, be sure to ask if it goes to El Centro. They have two routes, one goes to El Centro, one to San Diego. The trip will take a little longer on the bus, but you only pay 14,000. The seats are fairly comfortable. Make sure you have COP to pay the bus driver. They don't take foreign currency.

The bus that ends it route behind the Nutibara hotel takes up to 30 minutes longer than the bus that ends it route in San Diego. If you are on a short visit you may be better off taking the San Diego route because it leaves the airport more frequently than the Centro bus and as I mentioned it arrives in San Diego faster. The downside is you have to get off in San Diego and jump into a taxi to get to the Nutibara. If you are not staying at the Nutibara or someplace very near it you should consider going the San Diego route.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2867265]If you take the bus, be sure to ask if it goes to El Centro. They have two routes, one goes to El Centro, one to San Diego. The trip will take a little longer on the bus, but you only pay 14,000. The seats are fairly comfortable. Make sure you have COP to pay the bus driver. They don't take foreign currency.[/QUOTE]

Short Women.

150 cm (4' 11") Big boobs and REAL! Real boobs! Not that fake shit! Pictures are 100% real. Not old pictures when she was younger. No photoshop. Small mole on her very pretty face. Does not look bad at all. She has small dimples when she smiles. Seriously think about this. When was the last time you saw a woman with dimples that had an ugly face? Super sweet and fun. The kind of girl you take a vacation with. I expect her to find a sugar daddy within the year so move quickly.

I took the bus in Centro on Carrera 43 A. Jumped off at Calle 10 A (1 street before Calle 10 that everyone should know). One block away. Two minute walk. Five minute walk for retards. Yeah I got lost and was 29 minutes late.

[URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/sofia-flaca-tetona-natural-muy-caliente/22960654/[/URL]

Another even shorter girl. 145 cm (4'9") in Belen (Carrera 69 see #32 the-16). Look at the mirror in the one picture. Her footwear. You can tell she is super short. I am nearly 100% sure her photos are real because she never bothered to photoshop the two pictures showing her scar in her bikini area.

[URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/linda-chica-natural-con-rostro-angelical-de-mente-abierta-y-muy-calien/24140861/[/URL]

Botero Tacos.

Two taco places opened up in the last 2 weeks at ground zero. One across from the church and the other across at a slight diagonal from that (next to WOM cellular store). Have not tried either yet. My guess is they taste like tacos.

Parque Bolivar versus Nutibara.

I stayed at Hotel Las Rampas for a week during the lockdown 2+ years ago. Way over rated hotel. What I learned is it is a bad area. Spanish has nothing to do with it. Starting at the southern end of Parque Bolivar, go 2 blocks north of the Parque to Avenida Oriental. Now go across to the metro line (3-4 streets west). Most of that square area is tranny central. You do not want to go into that area in general and never after 8:00 when the businesses are closed. Taking a taxi every time you want to go out is a huge pain in the ass.

Regular Girls.

I have no Spanish speaking ability. In Medellin I had sex with a waitress at a restaurant I had been visiting. Years later I had the chance for another one at the same restaurant. But I mentioned money like before and either she wanted a boyfriend. Girlfriend experience or my offer was too low. Four years ago in Cucuta I had sex with a coffee girl working at a park. But this was not a street girl park. She was not looking for customers. Also, in Cucuta I could have had sex with the hotel cleaning girl but she wanted 100,000 COP but I had limited time and a line of girls for 30,000 COP so I passed on her. I was not searching for regular girls. I just happened to notice pretty girls in my day to day passing. If it happens great but I would never dedicate much time into searching for regular girls. If some of you want that then go to dating sites not mongering sites.

Premier Plaza now Hotel Casa Botero.

I estimated raised prices coming in January 2024. Nope, raised from 60,000 to 90,000 today. SOB manager never said anything to me. The one nice office girl informed me with a 24 hour advanced notice. The manager should have told me with 7 days notice. I had stayed there almost 3 months. Unreal, I asked the night shift girl about the price increase and she knew nothing about it. Either way I have my old backup location ready for tomorrow.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2867093]There are no winners of these games of semantics.[/QUOTE]The shit is not Calculus 3 though. We all know that hookers fuck for money. Is she fucking you if you do not give her money?

Disclaimer: I know many ISG guys feel guilty if a normal chick fucks them and they do not give them money. So they will somehow clear their conscience by "paying" a chick that is not a hooker.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2867274]The bus that ends it route behind the Nutibara hotel takes up to 30 minutes longer than the bus that ends it route in San Diego. If you are on a short visit you may be better off taking the San Diego route because it leaves the airport more frequently than the Centro bus and as I mentioned it arrives in San Diego faster. The downside is you have to get off in San Diego and jump into a taxi to get to the Nutibara. If you are not staying at the Nutibara or someplace very near it you should consider going the San Diego route.[/QUOTE]Or he can walk the 3 blocks to metro estacion exposiciones, hop on the metro and get off at parque berrio station. Fast and easy and costs 2880 pesos.

Sometimes if you ask the bus will even drop you off at exposicilnes after it drops off the people by the taxis.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere;2867292]Short Women.

150 cm (4' 11") Big boobs and REAL! Real boobs! Not that fake shit! Pictures are 100% real. Not old pictures when she was younger. No photoshop. Small mole on her very pretty face. Does not look bad at all. She has small dimples when she smiles. Seriously think about this. When was the last time you saw a woman with dimples that had an ugly face? Super sweet and fun. The kind of girl you take a vacation with. I expect her to find a sugar daddy within the year so move quickly.

I took the bus in Centro on Carrera 43 A. Jumped off at Calle 10 A (1 street before Calle 10 that everyone should know). One block away. Two minute walk. Five minute walk for retards. Yeah I got lost and was 29 minutes late.

[URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/sofia-flaca-tetona-natural-muy-caliente/22960654/[/URL]

Another even shorter girl. 145 cm (4'9") in Belen (Carrera 69 see #32 the-16). Look at the mirror in the one picture. Her footwear. You can tell she is super short. I am nearly 100% sure her photos are real because she never bothered to photoshop the two pictures showing her scar in her bikini area.

[URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/linda-chica-natural-con-rostro-angelical-de-mente-abierta-y-muy-calien/24140861/[/URL]

Botero Tacos.

Two taco places opened up in the last 2 weeks at ground zero. One across from the church and the other across at a slight diagonal from that (next to WOM cellular store). Have not tried either yet. My guess is they taste like tacos.

Parque Bolivar versus Nutibara.

I stayed at Hotel Las Rampas for a week during the lockdown 2+ years ago. Way over rated hotel. What I learned is it is a bad area. Spanish has nothing to do with it. Starting at the southern end of Parque Bolivar, go 2 blocks north of the Parque to Avenida Oriental. Now go across to the metro line (3-4 streets west). Most of that square area is tranny central. You do not want to go into that area in general and never after 8:00 when the businesses are closed. Taking a taxi every time you want to go out is a huge pain in the ass.

Regular Girls.

I have no Spanish speaking ability. In Medellin I had sex with a waitress at a restaurant I had been visiting. Years later I had the chance for another one at the same restaurant. But I mentioned money like before and either she wanted a boyfriend. Girlfriend experience or my offer was too low. Four years ago in Cucuta I had sex with a coffee girl working at a park. But this was not a street girl park. She was not looking for customers. Also, in Cucuta I could have had sex with the hotel cleaning girl but she wanted 100,000 COP but I had limited time and a line of girls for 30,000 COP so I passed on her. I was not searching for regular girls. I just happened to notice pretty girls in my day to day passing. If it happens great but I would never dedicate much time into searching for regular girls. If some of you want that then go to dating sites not mongering sites.

Premier Plaza now Hotel Casa Botero.

I estimated raised prices coming in January 2024. Nope, raised from 60,000 to 90,000 today. SOB manager never said anything to me. The one nice office girl informed me with a 24 hour advanced notice. The manager should have told me with 7 days notice. I had stayed there almost 3 months. Unreal, I asked the night shift girl about the price increase and she knew nothing about it. Either way I have my old backup location ready for tomorrow.[/QUOTE]That first girl is 100% my type. How much for 1 hour. Usually mileroticos has all scammers. You got lucky.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2866879]This is partially true. Not every American male visitor to Medellin is a monger although perhaps the majority are. The regular paisas would not be so stupid as to reject the advances of all Americans. In the rest of Colombia there is no such rejection because that stigma does not exist there.[/QUOTE]There is only one reason to go to Colombia, and that's to bang hot Colombian girls. Why would I fly all the way there to possibly be scoped. Is it for the beach or good coffee. Please! I can go to California or Florida for beaches, and Starbucks for coffee. If I want to bang hot regular girls I can just stay in America where it's hard. You go to Colombia because pay for play is rampant. Most hot Colombian girls are pay for play. The money is just too good not too. The guys that say they don't pay either speak fluent espanol or they are lying to themselves like all the guys in front of Helpe back in the day.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2867312]...

Sometimes if you ask the bus will even drop you off at exposicilnes after it drops off the people by the taxis.[/QUOTE]There is an announcement this week that you can ride the airport shuttle to and from Exposiciones with Civica card. I wonder how that works for passengers with luggage since most passengers can't use elevator at most stations with elevator

[QUOTE=JeepDude1;2866305]Good evening fellow perverts, I'm going to be in Medellin next week (11th-19th,) and just had a couple of questions:

A.) Any forum members more experienced with the area want to meet up, grab a drink and a bite, my treat? Would love to get a better lay of the land.

B.) Would love some tips for setting up a second Facebook for the purposes of finding some of these much conversed about FB Girls. Do you just use a fake name, real pictures of yourself, and set the location to Medellin? Curious how one goes about this whole process, and I obviously don't want ANY overlap with my civilian Facebook, this needs to be real hush hush.

See.) Best locations for the exchange of USD to COP. As usual, I procrastinated, and it's a bit late to use my regular bank, so it looks like I'll be flying in with USD and figuring it out.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately to get the best results from FB you need to start well before your arrival. I'd say maybe 2 months out. You'll need to use the search function where others went over the basics of getting started on FB. There are a few "guide" posts on this forum.

Just a word of warning on setting up a second FB account. Not sure if it's just me or happened to others too. If you are not careful. FB will make an association between your main and your second account, so your second account might start showing up as suggested friend to your friends on the main account. Some of my friends even tried to friend my second account because I used real photos and a name that is very close to my real name. It wasn't a problem for me because I'm single, but may be problematic for others.

To be as safe as possible I would get a different phone for the second FB account and maybe even have VPN enabled on it permanently. And obviously use a throwaway email address.

I also noticed guys saying (in this thread and in PMs) they can't seem to get FB game going. I suspect that's probably because they don't put the right content on it. When I created mine I uploaded a few photos when the account was created, then every few weeks or so I'd upload some more so that there's some kind of a timeline for the account. When I arrive to MDE I take a selfie with the Medellin sign in Parque Lleras. I also use the photos that I'd use for a real profile. I. e. Face is clearly visible, no sunglasses, high res. Even some girls on Seeking would not talk to you if your photos are effectively just placeholders (despite you having a premium subscription).

P.S: if anyone is friends with admins. Please PM me, I'd like to contribute more, but need to have one issue resolved. (the contact email for ISG stopped replying).

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2867333]That first girl is 100% my type. How much for 1 hour. Usually mileroticos has all scammers. You got lucky.[/QUOTE]170,000 COP 1 hour.

The other girl is 150,000 COP 1 hour but have not tried.

I know most the girls on the various websites are not near as sexy as their fake pictures. I have experience in several cities with all the same results which is only 25% success rate of pictures matching reality. That is why I posted about her being REAL.

That will work well if he isn't traveling with a lot of luggage.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2867312]Or he can walk the 3 blocks to metro estacion exposiciones, hop on the metro and get off at parque berrio station. Fast and easy and costs 2880 pesos.

Sometimes if you ask the bus will even drop you off at exposicilnes after it drops off the people by the taxis.[/QUOTE]

[URL]https://pasionprepagos.com/escorts/manuela3235305943[/URL]

There's this house called Santa agua spa. Look it up you can't miss it. They advertise their girls online on all pages. If you're looking for a girl online and they say they are from here just ignore them or block them no matter how good the girl looks. It's fake. The girls they advertise don't work there. Some dude will pretend like he's the girl and when it's time to finalize the details they hit you with I'm not available but my cousin is. It's just an agency not the girl herself. And then they will send you blurred face photoshopped pics.

Of ugly girls. When you get there they're like the girls we shoulder aren't here but we have these. Both ugly.

Don't waste your time.

Went to that Santa agua place. Garbage. These girls don't exist.

I wanted to do thi really hot cam girl I found on mileroticos. She's like doing modeling and stuff like that and going to Cartagena and doing only fans so when it comes to doing 304 things she's mad slow to respond so I just go to la isla. You know. The usual. But now I'm treating like a back up plan.

Party at la isla starts at 11 idc what anyone says. All the hot girls showed up right when I left at 11. Friday night.

There's this one girl I always do at la isl and I did her again. It's been 3 times in 5 weeks already. Pale skin big ass that can't fit in my hand.

Even tho when I got there the isla was empty. The waiter was hounding me because I bought a cocktail and was sitting on the couches. So just is we are straight. There's a cover of 50 k and there is minimum consumption. And if you don't buy a bottle you have stand in the back and if you walk around or stand too much near the front they will kick you out or you have to buy more. Nice. La isla really has an ego now. Might stop going as often if I find another spot or find a good rotation of girls.

At least when the last time tried to kick me out and I bought a shot instead they didn't play me. A shot of don julio is truly 90 k that's omega expensive tbh. Oh and the QR code menu on the tables doesn't work.

When I got to la is la in look for 1 of 4 girls. One girl from Cali I did one time with a really big ass. This girl that goes by Samantha who had a big ass but her ass is smaller now. No tits either. But she ignores me on ig and WhatsApp so I'm tying to do her agin so she can remember who she's talking to. Another girl I haven't seen before or the girl I did today. If all else fails girl number 4 never disappoints.

I element back with a local guy on Uber. Mate is a monger but he's local LOL. He's like j have a wife and use to go to places like this and mostly do online. He tells that prices have been going crazy. Shows me a catalogue of girls I've already seen. (I know all the online girls). And he tells me the prices and they are 490 for one hour. He recalls of a time where you could a girl for 490 for the whole day. But he says now these girls are just straight scamming with that amount and they don't even provide good service he says.

LOL even the locals are feeling it. I know of the girls he's talking about. An agency of 19 girls that charge ridiculous amounts for 'mid girls.

Mates asking me about if I have girl friend here and I'm like I age by really tried getting a girlfriend here. Every girl I talk to is only interested in money. And I'm only interested in sex. Especially after all the girls I've had sex with now that's I've been to Colombia. I find most girls annoying and boring / uninteresting. There was this one time I considered getting one of my cam girls as a girlfriend because we vibed well and she's the least slutty girl I've met in Medellin. But when I came back to Medellin this time the ***** tells me she's seeing someone and I'm like ok goodbye never spoke to her again. Doesn't know what she lost. I had another cam girl from last year unblock me in ig was like I want to see you and I'm like what's with this change of heart? Turns out she needs money for school after she quit camming and saw me as her bank. Mate wouldn't take less than 500 k and I had to disguise it as she's getting a job from me cleaning and washing my clothes. At first I thought she actually wanted to hangout but she just wants money and she's not even that hot. She's very submissive sometimes but aside from that she's flat as a stick and I'm not paying 500 k for that. But I would pay 300 because it's for more than an hour that she comes and I can probably do a lot of fantasies with her. (Girls need a lot of coaching) I haven't talked to her in a while. But I'm only bringing her back if she takes 300 k she also only makes 65 k a week at her part time job so idk why she's doesn't take 300 k.

On Tuesday I have another cam girl. She swears she's not a prepago but everyone knows she is. I was going to take her more seriously and maybe take her off camping but then I found out she has an only fans where she fucks some dude ands I saw that and I was like "recreational use only. ".

He asked me if I have a girlfriend in the states. I said no because they are all ugly and mean and they only want millionaires. I make above 100 k. That's not enough for me to get a paisa-level quality girl in the us. NYC especially. I don't venture to the inner states.

He tells me story of this Dominican guy that came to Colombia with his wife and hired him to take them to guatape. He went with this wife, the guy and the guys wife. Apparently while shopping for gifts for his wife the Dominican dude found a hot af not mal girl working at the place he was shopping at the shopping center. Apparently so hot in fact that the guy told the Uber driver to dristact his wife while this guy got the number of the really hot girl and later they met up in a motel to fuck. Crazy. Might try talking to girls at the shopping center see if they respond favorably.

Here is the link of two of the girls from the agency. If you want to see all the girls ask for them. After they give you their individual info. I would say the are mid in my book worth 350 but I wouldn't pay more than that. And they want 490. Do they really think they are la isla? Also the Uber driver said la isla girls are mid it's just that with the lights dim and the make up it makes them look better. I agree but there is no other consistent place that I've seen.

[URL]https://pasionprepagos.com/escorts/susana3238377064[/URL]

[URL]https://pasionprepagos.com/escorts/daniela3027323813[/URL]

Also I had 3 other cam girls lined up to go to different place and meet and potentially do the deed but they all bailed on me when I got here. Paisa flakiness

I'm over Medellin for short length trips after all these deaths.

If move down there permanently, speak even basic Spanish and make some regular friends much safer but if come down for short stays you are just one of the outsiders they prey on.

Mexico so much closer to me and I can't tell you how much passionate DFTK and hot sexy sessions I get with thin hot flacas there even if MP gals. Yes many CO women hot hot hot but I ain't risking it on shorter term trips.

And I had a blast in Costa Rica in September hot young women stalking me down and not so much risk of getting 'scoped'.

My last trip to Medallo Nov 2019 when I took a taxi back to my hotel in Poblado after having dinner in Envigado the mid age taxista exploded on me when I called the street we were on that eventually turns into Avenida Poblado the same. He insulted I guess cause we were still in Envigado and it called something else.

Also maybe 2005/6 time frame you can dumpster dive a French man was dismembered in Bello. Some them Colombian men can be real animals. Most people especially during the day very nice though.

[QUOTE=IntBond0;2860559]Seeking Girl wants me to fly her from Australia to Medellin, then to Europe to party with her friends then back to Australia, also wants me to pay for her hotels a total of $6000. I declined she gets upset and calls me broke LOL, she was super friendly before hand.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't pay $50 for a nice dinner in Provenza she looks like a 6 at best.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2867341]There is only one reason to go to Colombia, and that's to bang hot Colombian girls.......[/QUOTE]Over 4,000,000 tourists visit Colombia every year. Lets say half of these are men. Of the 2,000,000 or so men who come to Colombia a very small percentage of these are mongers. When I visit Colombia sampling the feminine delights is just one of my many activities in the country. I always partake in tourist activities. What a waste it would be to just go from my hotel room to a brothel the whole time.

[URL]https://www.viator.com/Colombia/d4497-ttd?supci=-1&m=28353&supag=122112902307&supca=12521213421&supsc=kwd-348402572804&supai=505199666784&supdv=c&supnt=g&suplp=9075966&supli=2170&supti=kwd-348402572804&tsem=true&supci=kwd-348402572804&supap1=&supap2=&supfi=&gclid=CjwKCAiA6byqBhAWEiwAnGCA4G16hCbzCzKDC7S1w8qPFudsRPQ5wklMLcaBKeiNqU0P158hCg-lBhoCCzUQAvD_BwE[/URL]

[QUOTE=Turgid;2867722]Over 4,000,000 tourists visit Colombia every year. Lets say half of these are men. Of the 2,000,000 or so men who come to Colombia a very small percentage of these are mongers. When I visit Colombia sampling the feminine delights is just one of my many activities in the country. I always partake in tourist activities. What a waste it would be to just go from my hotel room to a brothel the whole time.

[URL]https://www.viator.com/Colombia/d4497-ttd?supci=-1&m=28353&supag=122112902307&supca=12521213421&supsc=kwd-348402572804&supai=505199666784&supdv=c&supnt=g&suplp=9075966&supli=2170&supti=kwd-348402572804&tsem=true&supci=kwd-348402572804&supap1=&supap2=&supfi=&gclid=CjwKCAiA6byqBhAWEiwAnGCA4G16hCbzCzKDC7S1w8qPFudsRPQ5wklMLcaBKeiNqU0P158hCg-lBhoCCzUQAvD_BwE[/URL][/QUOTE]He's a professional trick so for him all he knows is the brothel and the hotel room. He thinks allen who visit Colombia are professional tricks just like him. He has probably never even been to Guatape.

Leave the rides at the amusement park gentlemen.

A Bethel Park police lieutenant pleaded guilty to transporting an 18-year-old Venezuelan woman he met while she was working as a prostitute in Colombia into the United States, prosecutors said.

BB, 59, pleaded guilty to one count of transporting an illegal alien within the United States, the Department of Justice announced on Wednesday.

[URL]https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/pittsburgh/news/bethel-park-police-lieutenant-pleads-guilty-transporting-18-year-old-woman-into-united-states/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Haxagonus;2867627]
Here is the link of two of the girls from the agency. If you want to see all the girls ask for them. After they give you their individual info. I would say the are mid in my book worth 350 but I wouldn't pay more than that. And they want 490. Do they really think they are la isla? Also the Uber driver said la isla girls are mid it's just that with the lights dim and the make up it makes them look better. I agree but there is no other consistent place that I've seen.

[URL]https://pasionprepagos.com/escorts/susana3238377064[/URL]

[URL]https://pasionprepagos.com/escorts/daniela3027323813[/URL]

Also I had 3 other cam girls lined up to go to different place and meet and potentially do the deed but they all bailed on me when I got here. Paisa flakiness[/QUOTE]Guys who still use websites like skokka, mileroticos, etc to find hookers are stuck in the 90's / early 2000's. Everybody knows the bait and switch rates are high, the photos are heavily edited, the info (age, weight, etc) is not accurate. There is zero point in using these websites especially in a country where p4 p is everywhere. I can't think of a worse method of finding hookers. Guys are so lazy they can't even get their ass off the couch and go to a brothel, Lleras, strip clubs, etc where you can see girls in person and grab the one that you like.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2867722]Over 4,000,000 tourists visit Colombia every year. Lets say half of these are men. Of the 2,000,000 or so men who come to Colombia a very small percentage of these are mongers. When I visit Colombia sampling the feminine delights is just one of my many activities in the country. I always partake in tourist activities. What a waste it would be to just go from my hotel room to a brothel the whole time.

[URL]https://www.viator.com/Colombia/d4497-ttd?supci=-1&m=28353&supag=122112902307&supca=12521213421&supsc=kwd-348402572804&supai=505199666784&supdv=c&supnt=g&suplp=9075966&supli=2170&supti=kwd-348402572804&tsem=true&supci=kwd-348402572804&supap1=&supap2=&supfi=&gclid=CjwKCAiA6byqBhAWEiwAnGCA4G16hCbzCzKDC7S1w8qPFudsRPQ5wklMLcaBKeiNqU0P158hCg-lBhoCCzUQAvD_BwE[/URL][/QUOTE]My libido is crashing so maybe I will do more touristy stuff on these trips. I went to the rainforest in Costa Rica which took all day. Did Hawaii, Cancun, but let's be real, you mainly go to these places for 19 year olds, Otherwise, I can just go to California or Florida for outdoor stuff.

I get to Mexico from time to time. I spend more time enjoying restaurants than girls. Occasionally I take advantage of a good opportunity when it presents itself. Much more often than not I focus on enjoying the restaurants and wait until I get back home to Medellin for girls. So far I've been lucky enough to avoid being hacked up and left in a dumpster.

[QUOTE=CocrBrotheler;2867637]I'm over Medellin for short length trips after all these deaths.

If move down there permanently, speak even basic Spanish and make some regular friends much safer but if come down for short stays you are just one of the outsiders they prey on.

Mexico so much closer to me and I can't tell you how much passionate DFTK and hot sexy sessions I get with thin hot flacas there even if MP gals. Yes many CO women hot hot hot but I ain't risking it on shorter term trips.

And I had a blast in Costa Rica in September hot young women stalking me down and not so much risk of getting 'scoped'.

My last trip to Medallo Nov 2019 when I took a taxi back to my hotel in Poblado after having dinner in Envigado the mid age taxista exploded on me when I called the street we were on that eventually turns into Avenida Poblado the same. He insulted I guess cause we were still in Envigado and it called something else.

Also maybe 2005/6 time frame you can dumpster dive a French man was dismembered in Bello. Some them Colombian men can be real animals. Most people especially during the day very nice though.[/QUOTE]

I have a chica that I see on occasion who is into trying new things. I suggested a swinger's club and she is game. I have never been to one before. Just read a little bit on this forum about them. Any suggestions as to best swingers clubs in Medellin (I have heard of La Piscina in Laureles / Esadio)? Any types on swingers club etiquette? I can envision us fucking while others watch or us watching others fuck. If we find the right girl or couple, maybe group sex. Not sure what's available. Any input or experience is appreciated.

I want to give a big shout out to everyone who's posted on this forum over the past two years or so. I've been planning my trip to Medellin for quite some time and I'm happy to share my report for those that are planning on coming out. I stayed in Medellin for 10 days, and am currently wrapping up 5 days in Bogota.

Arrived on Sunday 10/29 which was unfortunately the dry day "ley seca" but no matter, pulled out money pesos from the ATM at the airport and took the official airport taxi into El Poblado. There are many gift shops at the airport, that's where I bought my SIM Card for my burner phone. Just tell whomever is working how long you'll be there and they'll help you get what you need. Was like $10 for 2 weeks worth of data.

Lodging / Cash: Stayed at an Airbnb in Poblado in the Blux Apartment building. Had 0 issues running girls in and out of there over the 10 days. Discreet and friendly front desk staff as well. The location was awesome, short 15 minute walk down to Lleras or Provenza and the Interplaza Mall was 5 minutes away with restaurants, a pharmacy, coffee shops, but most importantly an ATM. I was hitting the ATM pretty much everyday as the one closest to me had a max limit of $600 k you could take out per transaction.

Food: Ordered groceries from Rappi and ate in the house a few times but mostly went out to eat in Provenza and La 70 area. Yes, the food here is bland, I agree. The best meal I had in Medellin was actually from a Peruvian restaurant. All of Colombia every time I've been served fries there is no seasoning on them LOL. If you meet a girl you like and want to repeat, I highly recommend taking them here and the Mirador el Cielo next door, it will impress them. [URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/2pwPFnZ9cQcwFjAs6[/URL].

Transportation: Dead ass ubered everywhere, only time I took the Metro was when I was with a local friend and she wanted to show me the metro and this other place right off of it. Just Uber, it's safe and cheap. It adds up after a while but it's the best option for gringos.

Non-Mongering: I did a tour of El Centro with Medellin walking tours, highly recommend, super informative and a good way to get the lay of the land in Centro if you plan to spend any time down there. I think there's no need to go there for mongering but it's good for shopping, food, or people watching at Parque Berrio. I also did a tour of La Comuna 13, highly recommend, super cool barrio with a cool story. Awesome views, souvenirs, and food. I booked that tour through Airbnb. I was planning on going to Guatape but unfortunately got a little sick due to all the partying and fucking I was doing LOL, so can't report on that.

Girls:

1. Strip Clubs. I only went to Fase ii twice to check it out. $30 k cover. If you don't buy a bottle you have to sit at the bar by the front. It was fun, beers kinda pricy at $30 k and girls will come up and grind on you as long you're giving them $2 k notes. You can also buy a ficha, I think it's $30 k. Only did one session here with a Paisa with a huge natural fat ass, she was a little sharky but the reason I went to Fase ii that night is because I had a kinda iffy FB girl and I wanted to shake her off LOL. It was $400 k for I think a half hour, room included, and it was one of only two CBJ I got in Medellin. Didn't go to La Isla due to it being expensive, my research says $50 k cover and $550 k to fuck.

2. Passion Prepagos. Wanted some cheap chocolate before my last FB date, this girl looks like the photos and sees you in a room in an apartment in a safe part of town. Cheap too, only $150 k for an hour, all with condom. [URL]https://pasionprepagos.com/escorts/manuela3122057419[/URL].

3. Facebook. This is where I sourced the majority of my sessions. Girls had to register with their and ID and take a photo at the front desk before being allowed to come up so I felt pretty safe and also did my best to vet them for being fun prior to inviting them over. In total, I saw 8 different girls from Facebook and the services and prices all varied. I paid between $250 k - $350 k mas taxi, for some girls that was one for others two nuts. All of them were GFE with kissing, oral natural, and as many positions as I wanted. The majority of them brought weed for us to smoke on the balcony LOL. I didn't ask for too many extras but one girl did let me cum in her mouth for no additional charge but you could tell she was a mega working girl. The girls I saw ranged from girls whose job was fucking dudes on Facebook to girls who only do this every once in a blue moon. So there's a lot of range there. Don't be afraid to start chatting with girls on Facebook and ask them if they want to spend a little time with you (quieres pasar un rato conmigo?) and usually they'll say yes, from there it's important to ask how much they expect from you to avoid an awkward situation later on. I also recommend negotiating anything you want upfront as well.

To help out those who haven't started their Facebook yet, this girl said I had the green light to share her contact. Just tell her you're visiting Medellin and you want to hang out with her. Please don't mention you got her contact from me.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100091493185221[/URL]

Overall, I understand why some guys on here are salty as some of these girls definitely are superficial af and there's a lot of gringos out here. It's caused prices to go up and some of the girls have shit attitudes. Overall I had really good experiences and only one or two duds. But let's be honest, for the average US monger the prices are way better than Tijuana and the whole vibe with Facebook girls give you more time to vibe out.

A few tips for a good experience with the girls:

1. Make sure you can hold a conversation in Spanish! My fave Facebook girl told me usually the gringos that visit don't speak much Spanish and it just makes the vibe more awkward and more transactional. If you can communicate, hold eye contact, and dance a little bit you will get some good GFE treatment, just don't fall in love. For what it's worth, I've been learning Spanish about a year and I would say I'm intermediate. 2. Try and chat with the girl for a bit more than just inviting her over and look over her profile. You want to see a little bit of personality on there along with obvious prepago stuff LOL.

I did not session in Lleras, agencies or any casas as Facebook is abundant and good value. Lleras kinda gave me some whack vibes, it's nice you can see the goods but I'd rather go to Fase ii first.

Overall, Medellin is a warm and friendly place, the paisas are super sweet men and women alike. I would certainly return and will have some girls waiting for me.

Please let me know if there's anything I can specify further to help ya'll out. I'm in Bogota now and will post that report once I get home.

Salud.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2867765]Guys who still use websites like skokka, mileroticos, etc to find hookers are stuck in the 90's / early 2000's. Everybody knows the bait and switch rates are high, the photos are heavily edited, the info (age, weight, etc) is not accurate. There is zero point in using these websites especially in a country where p4 p is everywhere. I can't think of a worse method of finding hookers. Guys are so lazy they can't even get their ass off the couch and go to a brothel, Lleras, strip clubs, etc where you can see girls in person and grab the one that you like.[/QUOTE]Seeking is the same shit but just with a subscription fee.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2867873]Seeking is the same shit but just with a subscription fee.[/QUOTE]Your comment is worthless because you have never tried it, and therefore, you don't know what you are talking about.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2867194]I stand by my statement that a attractive 8 or 9 that never receives money for sex won't be caught dead with a obvious American who can't speak Spanish.[/QUOTE]LOL. Half of my gal's friends speak English, and I had a friend have one of my gal's friends, who is a 9, come onto him.

I have met three of my gal's friends who would die if the right American guy came along.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2867914]Your comment is worthless because you have never tried it, and therefore, you don't know what you are talking about.[/QUOTE]What is to stop a chica from using fake or photoshopped pictures on seeking? Or what's to stop some other Chica entirely from using someone else's seeking account to catfish you?

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2856745]Although you and I have never been approached when there, I suspect there are some SW's working inside Provenza, but let's say a different category of SW's than we see working Calle 10 and Lleras.
[/QUOTE]I went but I don't think there are girls going inside for the purpose of working. Even if there are, I don't think they will look like the typical working girls. It will not be easy to identify working girls and what is the point? I only saw one inside sucking lollipop. I talked to a girl who worked just right outside the Preveza gate with another girl so I believe that is as far as it will go. She is from Bello and looked like a normal girl from a good family. She would have no problem going inside and be treated as a normal girl. The only give away is the tight hooker skirt she was wearing and it wasn't that obvious if I wasn't trying to find clue before talking to her. She probably is the best looking one I saw and I was surprised that no one has taken or talked to her. I asked her to come to my place tonight if she agrees to my terms.

It appears Lleras park area is being converted to like Preveza or an extension of it. It's an interesting sight to see so many working girls step out of the Uber or taxi. Some inside the park are very aggressive. I was standing at the intersection, an under age looking girl approached me and touched me trying to get me to take her. She is from Venezuela so that is a hard no. LOL.

Haircut is still the same price. Dental visit is still the same. I noticed some cafes are out of business during the past few months. One in Centro Comercial Rio Sur. The other one in the hotel across from Provenza night life area. The thrid one is in south of Centro Comercial Santa fe.

Cetro appears to be slim picking. The Mr E fried chicken place appears to have a new owner. Went to Grill Nueva Avenida and there are not that many girl around 10. I frequent a coffee booth across from Parque de Boliver as it is one of the few places with espresso machine in the area. I guess the owner recognized me and he gave me an extra cup on my first return visit. The other one is the museum coffee shop.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=We5X5kJqhLM[/URL]

I know shit happens anywhere but so many the last couple weeks there.

[QUOTE=CocrBrotheler;2867975][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=We5X5kJqhLM[/URL]
[/QUOTE][I]The man, from Texas, USA, entered the hotel, located in the Astorga del Poblado neighborhood in the early morning of November 11, with a woman.
Hours later, the woman with whom the man entered the hotel came out with a bag.
In the afternoon of November 11, he was found dead inside the place with multiple stab wounds.[/I]

[URL]https://www.minuto30.com/fotos-y-video-en-un-hotel-del-poblado-encontraron-un-extranjero-muerto-con-heridas-de-armas-blanca/1523567[/URL]

13 mil centro hotel has better security than above, they call or check in person before letting the chica out.

[QUOTE=CocrBrotheler;2867975]

I know shit happens anywhere but so many the last couple weeks there.[/QUOTE]'Tis the season, holidays are approaching.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2867965]She is from Venezuela so that is a hard no. LOL.[/QUOTE]As if Colombian SWs are less dangerous than Vennie SWs? If anything they have more contacts to various local gangs and just generally bigger 'scam network' to rely on, if needed.

Coincidentally it was a group of Colombians that was kidnaping the torturing the foreigners, using local women as bait.

I know couple Vennies that didn't even want to buy cheaper stolen phones in Centro to avoid any possibility of getting into trouble with the police and have kept saving up to buy one from a legal source.

Not that there are no scope Venezuelan queens (guess from whom they've learned that custom though), but I wouldn't say the Colombian SWs are safer bet.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2867965]Went to Grill Nueva Avenida and there are not that many girl around 10..[/QUOTE]Not a payday yet so usually smaller lineup, some also work dayshift and leave around 9-10, but in any case, hardly any fuckable chicas in Nueva lately.

[QUOTE=SammyBenz;2867868]I want to give a big shout out to everyone who's posted on this forum over the past two years or so. I've been planning my trip to Medellin for quite some time and I'm happy to share my report for those that are planning on coming out. I stayed in Medellin for 10 days, and am currently wrapping up 5 days in Bogota.

Arrived on Sunday 10/29 which was unfortunately the dry day "ley seca" but no matter, pulled out money pesos from the ATM at the airport and took the official airport taxi into El Poblado. There are many gift shops at the airport, that's where I bought my SIM Card for my burner phone. Just tell whomever is working how long you'll be there and they'll help you get what you need. Was like $10 for 2 weeks worth of data.

Lodging / Cash: Stayed at an Airbnb in Poblado in the Blux Apartment building. Had 0 issues running girls in and out of there over the 10 days. Discreet and friendly front desk staff as well. The location was awesome, short 15 minute walk down to Lleras or Provenza and the Interplaza Mall was 5 minutes away with restaurants, a pharmacy, coffee shops, but most importantly an ATM. I was hitting the ATM pretty much everyday as the one closest to me had a max limit of $600 k you could take out per transaction.

Food: Ordered groceries from Rappi and ate in the house a few times but mostly went out to eat in Provenza and La 70 area. Yes, the food here is bland, I agree. The best meal I had in Medellin was actually from a Peruvian restaurant. All of Colombia every time I've been served fries there is no seasoning on them LOL. If you meet a girl you like and want to repeat, I highly recommend taking them here and the Mirador el Cielo next door, it will impress them. [URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/2pwPFnZ9cQcwFjAs6[/URL].

Transportation: Dead ass ubered everywhere, only time I took the Metro was when I was with a local friend and she wanted to show me the metro and this other place right off of it. Just Uber, it's safe and cheap. It adds up after a while but it's the best option for gringos.

Non-Mongering: I did a tour of El Centro with Medellin walking tours, highly recommend, super informative and a good way to get the lay of the land in Centro if you plan to spend any time down there. I think there's no need to go there for mongering but it's good for shopping, food, or people watching at Parque Berrio. I also did a tour of La Comuna 13, highly recommend, super cool barrio with a cool story. Awesome views, souvenirs, and food. I booked that tour through Airbnb. I was planning on going to Guatape but unfortunately got a little sick due to all the partying and fucking I was doing LOL, so can't report on that.

Girls:

1. Strip Clubs. I only went to Fase ii twice to check it out. $30 k cover. If you don't buy a bottle you have to sit at the bar by the front. It was fun, beers kinda pricy at $30 k and girls will come up and grind on you as long you're giving them $2 k notes. You can also buy a ficha, I think it's $30 k. Only did one session here with a Paisa with a huge natural fat ass, she was a little sharky but the reason I went to Fase ii that night is because I had a kinda iffy FB girl and I wanted to shake her off LOL. It was $400 k for I think a half hour, room included, and it was one of only two CBJ I got in Medellin. Didn't go to La Isla due to it being expensive, my research says $50 k cover and $550 k to fuck.

2. Passion Prepagos. Wanted some cheap chocolate before my last FB date, this girl looks like the photos and sees you in a room in an apartment in a safe part of town. Cheap too, only $150 k for an hour, all with condom. [URL]https://pasionprepagos.com/escorts/manuela3122057419[/URL].

3. Facebook. This is where I sourced the majority of my sessions. Girls had to register with their and ID and take a photo at the front desk before being allowed to come up so I felt pretty safe and also did my best to vet them for being fun prior to inviting them over. In total, I saw 8 different girls from Facebook and the services and prices all varied. I paid between $250 k - $350 k mas taxi, for some girls that was one for others two nuts. All of them were GFE with kissing, oral natural, and as many positions as I wanted. The majority of them brought weed for us to smoke on the balcony LOL. I didn't ask for too many extras but one girl did let me cum in her mouth for no additional charge but you could tell she was a mega working girl. The girls I saw ranged from girls whose job was fucking dudes on Facebook to girls who only do this every once in a blue moon. So there's a lot of range there. Don't be afraid to start chatting with girls on Facebook and ask them if they want to spend a little time with you (quieres pasar un rato conmigo?) and usually they'll say yes, from there it's important to ask how much they expect from you to avoid an awkward situation later on. I also recommend negotiating anything you want upfront as well.

To help out those who haven't started their Facebook yet, this girl said I had the green light to share her contact. Just tell her you're visiting Medellin and you want to hang out with her. Please don't mention you got her contact from me.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100091493185221[/URL]

Overall, I understand why some guys on here are salty as some of these girls definitely are superficial af and there's a lot of gringos out here. It's caused prices to go up and some of the girls have shit attitudes. Overall I had really good experiences and only one or two duds. But let's be honest, for the average US monger the prices are way better than Tijuana and the whole vibe with Facebook girls give you more time to vibe out.

A few tips for a good experience with the girls:

1. Make sure you can hold a conversation in Spanish! My fave Facebook girl told me usually the gringos that visit don't speak much Spanish and it just makes the vibe more awkward and more transactional. If you can communicate, hold eye contact, and dance a little bit you will get some good GFE treatment, just don't fall in love. For what it's worth, I've been learning Spanish about a year and I would say I'm intermediate. 2. Try and chat with the girl for a bit more than just inviting her over and look over her profile. You want to see a little bit of personality on there along with obvious prepago stuff LOL.

I did not session in Lleras, agencies or any casas as Facebook is abundant and good value. Lleras kinda gave me some whack vibes, it's nice you can see the goods but I'd rather go to Fase ii first.

Overall, Medellin is a warm and friendly place, the paisas are super sweet men and women alike. I would certainly return and will have some girls waiting for me.

Please let me know if there's anything I can specify further to help ya'll out. I'm in Bogota now and will post that report once I get home.

Salud.[/QUOTE]Sounds enjoyable all around.

I'm currently going in February and I'm taking multiple Virtual Spanish Classes and doing Duolingo to be fluent and comprehensive.

A guy from Texas just got killed cause he brought a Parque Lleres girl back to his spot early in the morning.

RIP but a lot of these guys aren't reading the signs and they might be obvious targets for this game.

I'm going to be studious on here in terms of research bur thank God I'm black, so visually I won't totally stand out.

Would you mind if ask you any more questions? On here.

[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/member.php?739920-CK465[/URL]

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2867733]He's a professional trick so for him all he knows is the brothel and the hotel room. He thinks allen who visit Colombia are professional tricks just like him. He has probably never even been to Guatape.[/QUOTE]Guatape is one of the most amazing places I've been to in my life. I've been there many times. This guy Ace who has a youtube channel did a video on it where he met this American dude who lives there and married a chica. I could see myself doing that.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2867722]Over 4,000,000 tourists visit Colombia every year. Lets say half of these are men. Of the 2,000,000 or so men who come to Colombia a very small percentage of these are mongers. When I visit Colombia sampling the feminine delights is just one of my many activities in the country. I always partake in tourist activities. What a waste it would be to just go from my hotel room to a brothel the whole time.

[URL]https://www.viator.com/Colombia/d4497-ttd?supci=-1&m=28353&supag=122112902307&supca=12521213421&supsc=kwd-348402572804&supai=505199666784&supdv=c&supnt=g&suplp=9075966&supli=2170&supti=kwd-348402572804&tsem=true&supci=kwd-348402572804&supap1=&supap2=&supfi=&gclid=CjwKCAiA6byqBhAWEiwAnGCA4G16hCbzCzKDC7S1w8qPFudsRPQ5wklMLcaBKeiNqU0P158hCg-lBhoCCzUQAvD_BwE[/URL][/QUOTE]That is a good list Turgid. I would add that when you bring the right woman with you, it can enhance the trip, and the wrong one can make it hell. My father said that was his favorite way to really get to know someone: to take a trip with them. Are they prepared? How do they handle authority figures and the rules? How do they react when things do not go according to plan ETC?

When you have at this a while, you begin to demand more. It is not enough for a woman to be attractive and good in bed. What kind of a companion does she make?

Some of the best times in my life have been having the right women on trips.

[QUOTE=CK465;2868096]Sounds enjoyable all around.

I'm currently going in February and I'm taking multiple Virtual Spanish Classes and doing Duolingo to be fluent and comprehensive.

A guy from Texas just got killed cause he brought a Parque Lleres girl back to his spot early in the morning.

RIP but a lot of these guys aren't reading the signs and they might be obvious targets for this game.

I'm going to be studious on here in terms of research bur thank God I'm black, so visually I won't totally stand out.

Would you mind if ask you any more questions? On here.

[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/member.php?739920-CK465[/URL][/QUOTE]The dude that got killed for his gold chain was black. And the dude found in his bathtub scoped to death was black too I think. Being white or black or even Mexican doesn't matter. The moment you open your mouth they will know you aren't from here. The best advise is to RTFF stay alert and be aware at all times. Bringing unknown women back to your place is also a big no (especially if she is Venezuelan and / or more than one at a time).

You can learn alot by reading the fucking forum.

Hope this helps.

-Gabacho.

Hello There,

I have been to Medellin many times, but just started doing the FB thing as I wanted anonymity and found a way to develop a new account with a different name. I have found that most of the hotter gals here want to hit you up to buy video content, or flat out ask for help. WTF is up? Am I meeting the wrong ones, or has this this happened to other gents here? I normally just pulled from the clubs and around Lleras but wanted to work this angle. Any advice?

What you noticed is the time investment facebook sourcing requires. It's a good fit for guys who have time to kill back home between trips. Its usefulness is very limited if you fire it up after you arrive in Colombia. It takes weeks or more to prime the pump. I see this glossed over in a lot of the facebook content on this site. It's not a bad thing but you don't want to discover it after the clock starts ticking until you have to go back home.

[QUOTE=StudBucket;2868189]Hello There,

I have been to Medellin many times, but just started doing the FB thing as I wanted anonymity and found a way to develop a new account with a different name. I have found that most of the hotter gals here want to hit you up to buy video content, or flat out ask for help. WTF is up? Am I meeting the wrong ones, or has this this happened to other gents here? I normally just pulled from the clubs and around Lleras but wanted to work this angle. Any advice?[/QUOTE]

I went to Lleras Park the last two Saturdays but left by 9:00. The girls know I am looking, but what they do not know is I am only window shopping. I hate seeing them get all excited for money when I will never take them. I sexed the short casa girl, ate dinner, then checked out the available street girls. Last Saturday I saw one Centro girl. She has pretty face, hot body, and good in bed. This Saturday I saw two Centro girls. One looks pretty but have never taken her so can not comment. The other girl I saw I took 3 years ago three times. First time good. Second time ok. Third time she would not take her top off and when I walked out she was yelling for the workers there to lock me in the gate. I ran out. She was with another girl I had never seen before. Trouble! That girl approached me and as she was talking to me she circled behind me. Never had a girl do that. I assume she wanted to try her pickpocketing skills. I quickly took a step forward to distance myself and she walked off. These two scream TROUBLE!

[QUOTE=StudBucket;2868189]Hello There,

I have been to Medellin many times, but just started doing the FB thing as I wanted anonymity and found a way to develop a new account with a different name. I have found that most of the hotter gals here want to hit you up to buy video content, or flat out ask for help. WTF is up? Am I meeting the wrong ones, or has this this happened to other gents here? I normally just pulled from the clubs and around Lleras but wanted to work this angle. Any advice?[/QUOTE]Tell them your lookin for a date in your hotel room, at the end of the date you will help $$ them out. You have let them know how to get a financial contribution from you. Not by buying video content & def not money for nothin.

I am going to either Bogota or Medellin for 2-3 weeks for "workation" and planning to stay at airbnb (but not getting anyone to come in). I have a pretty limited Spanish and want to see girls (of course). I usually prefer to be able to take a shower (together is an option), and not rush (1 HR). Safety / walkability is important.

Would El Poblado or Laureles have options to meet my needs within mostly walking distance? My preference would be either spa or an apartment. Is that area generally safe to stay? What are the ways to find the "good" information resources? And, finally, do you feel that Medellin would make a better base for such a trip?

Thank you in advance.

[QUOTE=StudBucket;2868189]Hello There,

I have been to Medellin many times, but just started doing the FB thing as I wanted anonymity and found a way to develop a new account with a different name. I have found that most of the hotter gals here want to hit you up to buy video content, or flat out ask for help. WTF is up? Am I meeting the wrong ones, or has this this happened to other gents here? I normally just pulled from the clubs and around Lleras but wanted to work this angle. Any advice?[/QUOTE]That's normal. You should be able to spot the pattern and avoid them. Facebook is a numbers game for the newbies at least. You need to look at your percentage.

[QUOTE=JohnnieCash;2868065]As if Colombian SWs are less dangerous than Vennie SWs? I....[/QUOTE]Mine was not a serious statement.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2867965]...I talked to a girl who worked just right outside the Preveza gate with another girl so I believe that is as far as it will go....[/QUOTE]They are too young. They hold out until the last minute to tell me which I already guessed it.

[QUOTE=StudBucket;2868189]Hello There,

I have been to Medellin many times, but just started doing the FB thing as I wanted anonymity and found a way to develop a new account with a different name. I have found that most of the hotter gals here want to hit you up to buy video content, or flat out ask for help. WTF is up? Am I meeting the wrong ones, or has this this happened to other gents here? I normally just pulled from the clubs and around Lleras but wanted to work this angle. Any advice?[/QUOTE]Girls trying to sell content or asking for money is just part of the game, not a big deal because you can just say no. They are doing that because you are not in Medellin. I know a lot of guys just move from them but when you actually in Medelllin and ready to go, some of the same girls are willing to have sex with you for money so I am not so quick to dismiss these girls.

But yes it is a numbers game and when you come to Medellin for a week, you do need to have a number of possibilities so when a girl doesn't respond, you have Plan be and Plan see for that day.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2868187]The dude that got killed for his gold chain was black. And the dude found in his bathtub scoped to death was black too I think. Being white or black or even Mexican doesn't matter. The moment you open your mouth they will know you aren't from here. The best advise is to RTFF stay alert and be aware at all times. Bringing unknown women back to your place is also a big no (especially if she is Venezuelan and / or more than one at a time).

You can learn alot by reading the fucking forum.

Hope this helps.

-Gabacho.[/QUOTE]Good advice. Safe to say any foreigner that engages in our behavior has some level of risk. And I don't take extra solace with a Colombiana versus a Vennie. That said, I'm not changing my process. I do think that maybe girls standing outside in Lleras are an increased risk and I'll avoid them. I'm sure some will flame me for some of this, but I'll tell you my main precautions that have saved me more than once.

1. Hotel. I stayed at an Airbnb once in Medellin. That was my first trip. Even that had a front desk of sorts. Who doesn't want the convenience of not having a doorman or front desk being nosy? But, in reality, it's a necessary evil.

2. Doorman / security guard. Treat them well. I frequent many of the same clubs when I visit. I'm by no means a regular. But I will tip them. Nothing exorbitant. I tip them maybe 10 k per night. I promise you that has paid off for me. They remember me every time. Twice the security downstairs at Gusto saved my ass. Once with a girl that was bad news and once when I partied a little too hard. The doormen at some smaller clubs are even more important. And though not in MDE, two doormen at my hotel in Rio saved my ass. I was zoned out, not using basic precautions. 4 guys were coming at me, just 30 feet from the front door. The doormen ran over to me yelling about my phone and the four guys ran off the other way. It's not even about tips or money. If you treat them well, engage them and let them know you appreciate them, they are an important extra set of eyes that know the lay of the land far better than you will.

3. Trust your gut. I'm not a guy that picks a girl, goes right to negotiations and out the door in minutes. Though I don't do it for safety reasons, I think my process has helped to reduce my risk. I want to know the girl. I trust my gut and I want a session where there is something more than a transaction. Is it fool-proof? No. But I trust my instincts to know if something is off with a girl. If nothing else, a conversation and time spent doesn't make you the easiest target in the room.

Just my two cents. It's worked for me for many years now that have gone by without any significant incidents.

This was my second time in Medellin. First was Nov. 2019 a little before the pandemic. First time I stayed in a hotel and spoke very little spanish. This time I stayed in an air bnb and have intermediate level spanish. Both times I stayed near Estadio, which I prefer to Poblado. Anyway, since I wasn't allowed guests at my hotel and had no spanish speaking ability 4 years ago, every day I would go to a casa or massage place in the day, and then Conejitas or Barra Ejecutiva at night. I went to the casas and strip clubs again this year. Still had a lot of fun, but there weren't any smoking hot 18-19 year old hardbodies there anymore. Prices up moderately. Luckily, I am not picky and still enjoyed myself very much. I walked around Plaza Botero in the day looking for sw there. I still couldn't get the nerve to pull the trigger on a sw in El Centro. Probably my loss, just need a little more nerve. But I figured for nearly the same cost I could just see a girl at New Life and it would be a lot safer.

This year I built up a stable of FB girls. Spent about 6 months or so building it up. Got about 300 friends. Since I don't use FB on my cell in order to keep it separate from all my contacts, I had to get Whats App numbers before heading down for my trip. Got about 10 numbers. First girl I saw was a real winner. I halfway wifed up with her for the rest of the trip. Saw her half the days I was there. Went together on a nice trip to Santa Fe de Antioquia (which I recommend over the trip to Guatape). One other girl was really nice one day I saw her, and then like another person high on drugs when I saw her for a repeat. One girl was a very sub par experience, and one girl never showed up after we set a date. A few other girls were unresponsive, and a couple I never got around to contacting. That should give you some idea of my overall FB experience. I was down there for just over one week, FYI.

Another thing I noticed was that you never replicate that feeling exploring a city for the first time. It was nice to be in Medellin with some experience, but that thrill of being there for the first time was missing this time around. Another thing was that it was stressful worrying about the potential for danger with the FB girls. I didn't have a doorman in my building. I guess that's on me, as I could have chosen one with a doorman. I kept remembering the story of the guy who got scoped after his 3rd date with a girl. You could call it a healthy paranoia, but I wish I didn't have to worry about it. I'd say I got lucky finding the girl I had so much fun with. Had a super time again. I'll be back in Colombia next year probably. Maybe Cali again or Bogota.

Holiday today so not much out so I looked under the metro which I rarely ever do. Saw an 8 month pregnant woman. Thin body (other than her tummy) and ok looking and guessing age 21-ish. Not sure if she will be out tomorrow or whenever. I assume you only have 2 weeks to get some before she pops. She is at the staircase near the police station (check top and bottom).

Two month pregnant woman standing at the statue nearest the church. She has black hair with red bangs. Her friend has all red hair so easy to find. Took her 3 times already. Age 20-ish.

Happily surprised at this. Bar street behind the church. At the corner is a yellow restaurant. Across the street but before the mid-way point is a woman with big boobs DDs. See looks 35-40 but says she is 25. She talks to the older women so I am guessing somewhere in between. She puts on too much makeup now. Anyways I finally did her. Friendly and good sex. The kicker is that her boobs are so pushed up and big I would have sworn they were fake. Damn things were real. Very firm for being so massive. Chubby short body but firm and smooth skin like a 25 year old that she claims to be. She wanted paid first but I was going to walk out and she has seen me a million times. So be sure to take care of that issue first. Horny again 2 hours later so did her again. Fun fun!

[QUOTE=MoonShot;2868334]Girls trying to sell content or asking for money is just part of the game, not a big deal because you can just say no. They are doing that because you are not in Medellin. I know a lot of guys just move from them but when you actually in Medelllin and ready to go, some of the same girls are willing to have sex with you for money so I am not so quick to dismiss these girls.

But yes it is a numbers game and when you come to Medellin for a week, you do need to have a number of possibilities so when a girl doesn't respond, you have Plan be and Plan see for that day.[/QUOTE]Just block the content bitxhes they're a waste of bandwidth. It's not hard to find the real ones that want to actually make money.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2868193]What you noticed is the time investment facebook sourcing requires. It's a good fit for guys who have time to kill back home between trips. Its usefulness is very limited if you fire it up after you arrive in Colombia. It takes weeks or more to prime the pump. I see this glossed over in a lot of the facebook content on this site. It's not a bad thing but you don't want to discover it after the clock starts ticking until you have to go back home.[/QUOTE]I would agree. Like many guys, I have time between trips to send friend requests and chat with girls on FB. I find it fun actually so it's not a big deal for me. I always have time to chat with young attractive girls when I am back home. But if you wait until you are actually in Medellin to start chatting with girls on FB, you will discover that some girls may not respond to you very quickly or your message may get lost among the hundreds of messages that other guys are sending her. So it is best to chat with a girl prior to your trip, and establish a connection and just let her know when you will be coming to Medellin and she will respond to your message when you are in Medellin. You don't need to set up a date before you arrive. You just need to get her to know her a bit before you arrive, and it is more likely that she will see you during your trip.

[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2868399]Good advice. Safe to say any foreigner that engages in our behavior has some level of risk. And I don't take extra solace with a Colombiana versus a Vennie. That said, I'm not changing my process. I do think that maybe girls standing outside in Lleras are an increased risk and I'll avoid them. I'm sure some will flame me for some of this, but I'll tell you my main precautions that have saved me more than once.

1. Hotel. I stayed at an Airbnb once in Medellin. That was my first trip. Even that had a front desk of sorts. Who doesn't want the convenience of not having a doorman or front desk being nosy? But, in reality, it's a necessary evil.

2. Doorman / security guard. Treat them well. I frequent many of the same clubs when I visit. I'm by no means a regular. But I will tip them. Nothing exorbitant. I tip them maybe 10 k per night. I promise you that has paid off for me. They remember me every time. Twice the security downstairs at Gusto saved my ass. Once with a girl that was bad news and once when I partied a little too hard. The doormen at some smaller clubs are even more important. And though not in MDE, two doormen at my hotel in Rio saved my ass. I was zoned out, not using basic precautions. 4 guys were coming at me, just 30 feet from the front door. The doormen ran over to me yelling about my phone and the four guys ran off the other way. It's not even about tips or money. If you treat them well, engage them and let them know you appreciate them, they are an important extra set of eyes that know the lay of the land far better than you will.

3. Trust your gut. I'm not a guy that picks a girl, goes right to negotiations and out the door in minutes. Though I don't do it for safety reasons, I think my process has helped to reduce my risk. I want to know the girl. I trust my gut and I want a session where there is something more than a transaction. Is it fool-proof? No. But I trust my instincts to know if something is off with a girl. If nothing else, a conversation and time spent doesn't make you the easiest target in the room.

Just my two cents. It's worked for me for many years now that have gone by without any significant incidents.[/QUOTE]Like anywhere you got to use your common sense and go with your gut. My comment on being black was a comment on how you're less likely a target on the streets if you don't bring attention to yourself. The guy who commented didn't understand what I meant.

You're tipping method to door men / security guards is not a bad idea. By no means shower them with endless pesos but from what I've been reading and watching, the currency exchange is in our favor so establishing some insurance is never a bad idea.

Again, very unfortunate to the lives lost doing this hobby in Medellin but we as a community just have to continue to give helpful advice and hope other listen. You can lead a horse to water but can't make him drink.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere;2868497] Saw an 8 month pregnant woman. Thin body (other than her tummy) and ok looking and guessing age 21-ish. Not sure if she will be out tomorrow or whenever. I assume you only have 2 weeks to get some before she pops. She is at the staircase near the police station (check top and bottom).[/QUOTE]She's been working same spot before she got pregnant. Not my type though, boney, long feet, leg hair and a bit of moustache last time I saw her. OK face though in general and OK personality.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2868213]... Third time she would not take her top off and when I walked out she was yelling for the workers there to lock me in the gate. I ran out. She was with another girl I had never seen before. Trouble! That girl approached me and as she was talking to me she circled behind me. Never had a girl do that. I assume she wanted to try her pickpocketing skills. I quickly took a step forward to distance myself and she walked off. These two scream TROUBLE![/QUOTE]Any recognizable / specific features of these two so we know who to avoid?

[QUOTE=JohnnieCash;2868642]Any recognizable / specific features of these two so we know who to avoid?[/QUOTE]Not really. The one I had problems with is skinny where her cheeks go inward (think glue sniffer / druggie). Does not smile much. Darker rings around her eyes from lack of sleep which is noticeable. The other one has no features that stick out. Sorry.

Hola, I'm trying to rent an Airbnb that is centrally located near Parque Llyras but not too close that allows guests. One replied that guests are allowed but only one guest at a time and they must register when they arrive. Does this mean you can bring any guests, or will they be scrutinized and refused entry if they don't have proper ID, look like a working girl, or only have a Venezuelan ID. Thanks!

[QUOTE=GreenToad;2868746]Hola, I'm trying to rent an Airbnb that is centrally located near Parque Llyras but not too close that allows guests. One replied that guests are allowed but only one guest at a time and they must register when they arrive. Does this mean you can bring any guests, or will they be scrutinized and refused entry if they don't have proper ID, look like a working girl, or only have a Venezuelan ID. Thanks![/QUOTE]Ask the airbnb host. It is ok to have followup questions for clarification.

[QUOTE=GreenToad;2868746]Hola, I'm trying to rent an Airbnb that is centrally located near Parque Llyras but not too close that allows guests. One replied that guests are allowed but only one guest at a time and they must register when they arrive. Does this mean you can bring any guests, or will they be scrutinized and refused entry if they don't have proper ID, look like a working girl, or only have a Venezuelan ID. Thanks![/QUOTE]You're looking at the wrong AirBNBs.

Don't worry about staying too close to Parque Lleras, staying a few streets up or down is fine.

What you need to look for are whole apartments that do "self check in". These are typically the most guest friendly. The flipside of this is that you are taking the responsibility yourself that you're not letting anyone underage in. I'm generally of the age where I'm not picking up girls off the street whilst drunk these days and I've 300+ chicas on my latino facebook so it's easily a manageable risk.

The ones that are renting out a room aren't going to be guest friendly as they're living there.

Another thing I look for are separate hot and cold taps in the shower, this is a sign they've installed a central hot water system, ergo are targeting foreigners who like hot showers (Colombians typically prefer cold ones, hence a lot of places have the "suicide" style electric overhead heaters that don't work very well).

HOLLLLYYYY CRAP.

What an adventure that was. I love this place and can't wait to go back.

After reading 60+ pages of this website I thought I had the right information gathered but it kinda all collapsed when I got there.

So I traveled to cartagena before and I had a quick trip over to medellin. It was only a couple days long so I had to pack in a lot.

Before you read this you need to know a couple of important things. If you don't agree with these things you may not find my information valuable.

- My type is the silicone tits and ass. I don't mind them in fact I prefer huge tits. The face has to be pretty naturally and can't be altered too much.

- ratings of type of girl is very subjective!

- I'm actually in that group that prefer to wine and dine a girl. I like to spend time with them and enjoy their company.

- I love club atmosphere of the hunt. In cartagena dolce was what I loved. Dancing grinding then negotiating was so fun.

Thursday.

I got in and just had to settle. Waited for my friend to arrive and got some dinner and walked around the park. He got a couple numbers of girls he thought were pretty and just started to negotiate on what's app with them.

10 pm hits and I want to go to gusto while my friend looks at pasionprepago.

I know that ALLL the recent reviews told me not to go to gustos. They said its way overpriced and not worth it at all.

I walk in and its pretty dead. Maybe 12 girls sitting quietly and I sit on the ledge and immediately talk to this girl who is liek a 6/10 she's nice but not my type. I only have a few days so I have to be very picky. Friend joins in at 11 pm and I turn around and BAM this place is PACKED. We walk around and there are at least a handful of a 8/10 to 10/10 girls. I am ESTATIC. At 12 pm this place is like 10-1 girls and guys and the club is great. We started to get some price negotiations and girls were not dropping below 200-250 for the whole night. This may have been expensive but the one I wanted was super hot. I made sure to negotiate amoutn of pops and when she would be leaving in the morning (5 am).

So honestly. I disagree with a lot of the comments about this place on Thursday. I loved it. Yeah price might be high but the mood is awesome and the pool is great.

- this girl was smoking, she almost forgot her ID but found it later. I popped immediately with her then 2 more times into the night. The only annoying thing was after each pop she asked if I wanted to go to sleep alone (I was kinda sleepy) but I kept saying no. Otherwise when we got into it she was an amazing actress. She ended up leaving at 4 am instead of 5 but I was ok as I was too drained. DATY, CBJ, covered FS, french K, all included.

Friday Morning.

- we did random touristy shit and got back a bit later then I wanted.

- so we headed to loutrons around 7 pm. I read a bunch of the reviews here on this website stating that girls are only 3 -4 . But there were 10 girls here at least when we went and a bunch of th tables were filled. 430 k cop and the girl I had was SMOKING sofia and my friend also chose 10/10 ori. Both so hot. Quick shower got a nice massage and into business. And it was legit business. Not much offered besides the CBJ into the ending. No frenching or DATY. Great attitude though otherwise. This was one of the highlights of the trip.

STRIP CLUBS.

- I fcking hate the strip clubs. We went to la isla at 10 pm and this place was LAME AS FCK. We didn't want to get bottle service cause it was such a rip off so instead they charged us like 10 usd for coronas and we went and sat in the corner of the fcking club and no girl was allowed to come by and talk to us. We were like the losers in the dark corner. Fck this place. I didn't even check out the girls I was so disgusted at the attitude of this strip club. So many open tables available too. Don't know what you guys see in this place. Maybe if I came when it was really late it wouldve been better.

- get in the cab and I heard of another place called la lunela so I tell the cab driver to take us there. He says the girls are nice there but la isla is better. I ask him how fase dos is in comparison and he says fase dose is way better than la lunela, plus la lunela neighborhood is bad at this time. So we turn right around and go to fase dos.

- same shit here. A bunch of a open tables, and expensive beer. No place the sit plus the girls here were MID at best. We stood there for 3 songs and left.

- maybe I had a weird experience but the talk of these strip clubs is so weird to me. We really hated it.

BACK TO GUSTOS.

- ok so strip clubs sucked but its only 12 pm so we can salvage the night right?

-back to gustos and the place is so busy again. I got a bunch of numbers from last night but theyre not responding and theyre not at the club.

- now I don't know if its cause of Friday but we were talking to some ugly chicks. Like ugly chicks no guy was ever talking to. And they quoted us 200 USD per HOUR. And wouldn't budge. CRAZY.

The craziest thing is they even left ALONE. Wtf. We were baffled. Same thing happend with a bunch of other ugly chicks. Uhh maybe this is what this website was referring to. My friend ended up grabbing a girl who agreed to $300 all night till 6 am. So he did get lucky. She wasnt the prettiest but she was down to haggle.

- I had some girls but none of them interested me so I left.

Parque lleras.

- yo wtf. These ugly girls on the streets still wanted $200 USD PER HOUR. Like all of them. They werent even good looking. Tbh I might have been able to negotiate but I was so baffled I just walked away instead of counter offering.

- I looked up pasionprepago and milirotics and was about to call a bunch of girls over but the secuirty guard from my place warned me that website girls are probably more dangerous then inside parequ lleras street girls. I thought about all the bad shit that could happen then just convinced my self mayeb to call it a night BECAUSE.

FACEBOOK.

- facebook has not been working for me at all. Some of the girls I friended to the girls I found at gustos were so ugly. Bleh. And also I never knew if all their pics were airbrushed. At least at the clubs or streets I saw them and could decide.

- but I found this one girl who owned her own business. Was talking to her before our trip for some help. Randomly she posts this risque picture of her on her business site. Hmmm I shoot my shot. Ask if she escorts. She quotes me 190 k COP per hour DAMN but she's not available Friday night at all she gets in late. I ask can you come 9 am? She agrees. BINGO.

- trying to fall asleep with a hard on is so awful but I force myself to.

Saturday morning.

- I wake up so tensed ready to go at 8 am. I ask if she can come earlier and she says no. Fck. I pace around get some drinks, ask if she wants to smoke, she says yes.

- we walk up and she showers and we just lay in bed as this girl is just full on chugging tequila, hmm should I be worried?

- we start making out in bed, then I suck her sweet twits, perform DATY and she is very responsive. I get a quick wiff and I feel like a smell is off. But I'm kinda congested so I can't really tell.

- I climb back up and we make out some more.

- she flips me over and performs CBJ. Then she works her self down and under my sack and all over it. And then she just stays there. For a really long time. I think to myself this is too long right.

Oh wait she wants me to raise my hip up more? Oh damn this girl is just rimming me straight up. She does that for a while (not really my thing) and I direct her to get some mouthwash.

We start missionary and man the puss stench is strong.

- ok listen I never been with a girl with a bad fish odor. But it wasnt a fish odor. It kinda smelled like old dried semen? But the more turned on she got the more I smelled it. It almostwrecked me but I was too bricked up to stop now. I just force one out and its great but I immediatly run to the shower. Twice after she leaves cause the smell is still there.

This girl wouldve been my #1 of medellin if it wasnt the stench. But ill probably call her back if I revisit. She says she never does that the scorting thing. Only once in a while and when she does she enjoys it. And I made sure she did.

Also some of the facebook girls I reached out to were pissed I didn't reach back out to them while I was there LOL.

Thanks for the help guys. I flew to carta after so ill write a report about that later.

[QUOTE=MaxKane;2868862]You're looking at the wrong AirBNBs.

Don't worry about staying too close to Parque Lleras, staying a few streets up or down is fine.

What you need to look for are whole apartments that do "self check in". These are typically the most guest friendly. The flipside of this is that you are taking the responsibility yourself that you're not letting anyone underage in. I'm generally of the age where I'm not picking up girls off the street whilst drunk these days and I've 300+ chicas on my latino facebook so it's easily a manageable risk.

The ones that are renting out a room aren't going to be guest friendly as they're living there.

Another thing I look for are separate hot and cold taps in the shower, this is a sign they've installed a central hot water system, ergo are targeting foreigners who like hot showers (Colombians typically prefer cold ones, hence a lot of places have the "suicide" style electric overhead heaters that don't work very well).[/QUOTE]Of course, the downside of self check in is that there is no security at all. In light of all these stories of druggings and robberies, you are taking an increased risk of crime. There is no receptionist or doorman to deter criminals.

[QUOTE=GeorgeCarta22;2868923]- ok so strip clubs sucked but its only 12 pm so we can salvage the night right?[/QUOTE]You went to a nightclub at noon?

[QUOTE=MoonShot;2868998]Of course, the downside of self check in is that there is no security at all. In light of all these stories of druggings and robberies, you are taking an increased risk of crime. There is no receptionist or doorman to deter criminals.[/QUOTE]Self check-in does not mean there is not a doorman. There may be an electronic lock or lockbox at the door, but a doorman at the front desk. Still, a doorman is not your personal security guard or problem solver the way most mongers tend to see them.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2869129]Self check-in does not mean there is not a doorman. There may be an electronic lock or lockbox at the door, but a doorman at the front desk. Still, a doorman is not your personal security guard or problem solver the way most mongers tend to see them.[/QUOTE]What you have brought up may be confusing for some.

A lot of apartments that are rentals in Medellin do have security which will either be limited to only daytime or 24 hours a day seven days a week.

As your aware these individuals are called Porteros, and are not personal security guards for mongers as you mention, however they can assist mongers and help solve problems on the mongers behalf if handled properly.

As has been mentioned numerous times on this board, Porteros have diffused problems on a mongers behalf, and as you know, it's in the best interest of mongers to be friendly with the Porteros where they are staying and befriend them, like giving them a six pack of beer, maybe a box of cookies, or something else as it will go a long way in the event a monger has a problem.

[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2868399]

2. Doorman / security guard. Treat them well.

Just my two cents. It's worked for me for many years now that have gone by without any significant incidents.[/QUOTE]Except for when they're the ones who set you up. Just sayin'.

[QUOTE=RickRock;2869116]You went to a nightclub at noon?[/QUOTE]12 am oops.

[QUOTE=GeorgeCarta22;2868923]HOLLLLYYYY CRAP.

What an adventure that was. I love this place and can't wait to go back.

After reading 60+ pages of this website I thought I had the right information gathered but it kinda all collapsed when I got there.

So I traveled to cartagena before and I had a quick trip over to medellin. It was only a couple days long so I had to pack in a lot.

Before you read this you need to know a couple of important things. If you don't agree with these things you may not find my information valuable.

- My type is the silicone tits and ass. I don't mind them in fact I prefer huge tits. The face has to be pretty naturally and can't be altered too much.

- ratings of type of girl is very subjective!

- I'm actually in that group that prefer to wine and dine a girl. I like to spend time with them and enjoy their company.

- I love club atmosphere of the hunt. In cartagena dolce was what I loved. Dancing grinding then negotiating was so fun.

Thursday.

I got in and just had to settle. Waited for my friend to arrive and got some dinner and walked around the park. He got a couple numbers of girls he thought were pretty and just started to negotiate on what's app with them.

10 pm hits and I want to go to gusto while my friend looks at pasionprepago.

I know that ALLL the recent reviews told me not to go to gustos. They said its way overpriced and not worth it at all.

I walk in and its pretty dead. Maybe 12 girls sitting quietly and I sit on the ledge and immediately talk to this girl who is liek a 6/10 she's nice but not my type. I only have a few days so I have to be very picky. Friend joins in at 11 pm and I turn around and BAM this place is PACKED. We walk around and there are at least a handful of a 8/10 to 10/10 girls. I am ESTATIC. At 12 pm this place is like 10-1 girls and guys and the club is great. We started to get some price negotiations and girls were not dropping below 200-250 for the whole night. This may have been expensive but the one I wanted was super hot. I made sure to negotiate amoutn of pops and when she would be leaving in the morning (5 am).

So honestly. I disagree with a lot of the comments about this place on Thursday. I loved it. Yeah price might be high but the mood is awesome and the pool is great.

- this girl was smoking, she almost forgot her ID but found it later. I popped immediately with her then 2 more times into the night. The only annoying thing was after each pop she asked if I wanted to go to sleep alone (I was kinda sleepy) but I kept saying no. Otherwise when we got into it she was an amazing actress. She ended up leaving at 4 am instead of 5 but I was ok as I was too drained. DATY, CBJ, covered FS, french K, all included.

Friday Morning.

- we did random touristy shit and got back a bit later then I wanted.

- so we headed to loutrons around 7 pm. I read a bunch of the reviews here on this website stating that girls are only 3 -4 . But there were 10 girls here at least when we went and a bunch of th tables were filled. 430 k cop and the girl I had was SMOKING sofia and my friend also chose 10/10 ori. Both so hot. Quick shower got a nice massage and into business. And it was legit business. Not much offered besides the CBJ into the ending. No frenching or DATY. Great attitude though otherwise. This was one of the highlights of the trip.

STRIP CLUBS.

- I fcking hate the strip clubs. We went to la isla at 10 pm and this place was LAME AS FCK. We didn't want to get bottle service cause it was such a rip off so instead they charged us like 10 usd for coronas and we went and sat in the corner of the fcking club and no girl was allowed to come by and talk to us. We were like the losers in the dark corner. Fck this place. I didn't even check out the girls I was so disgusted at the attitude of this strip club. So many open tables available too. Don't know what you guys see in this place. Maybe if I came when it was really late it wouldve been better.

- get in the cab and I heard of another place called la lunela so I tell the cab driver to take us there. He says the girls are nice there but la isla is better. I ask him how fase dos is in comparison and he says fase dose is way better than la lunela, plus la lunela neighborhood is bad at this time. So we turn right around and go to fase dos.

- same shit here. A bunch of a open tables, and expensive beer. No place the sit plus the girls here were MID at best. We stood there for 3 songs and left.

- maybe I had a weird experience but the talk of these strip clubs is so weird to me. We really hated it.

BACK TO GUSTOS.

- ok so strip clubs sucked but its only 12 pm so we can salvage the night right?

-back to gustos and the place is so busy again. I got a bunch of numbers from last night but theyre not responding and theyre not at the club.

- now I don't know if its cause of Friday but we were talking to some ugly chicks. Like ugly chicks no guy was ever talking to. And they quoted us 200 USD per HOUR. And wouldn't budge. CRAZY.

The craziest thing is they even left ALONE. Wtf. We were baffled. Same thing happend with a bunch of other ugly chicks. Uhh maybe this is what this website was referring to. My friend ended up grabbing a girl who agreed to $300 all night till 6 am. So he did get lucky. She wasnt the prettiest but she was down to haggle.

- I had some girls but none of them interested me so I left.

Parque lleras.

- yo wtf. These ugly girls on the streets still wanted $200 USD PER HOUR. Like all of them. They werent even good looking. Tbh I might have been able to negotiate but I was so baffled I just walked away instead of counter offering.

- I looked up pasionprepago and milirotics and was about to call a bunch of girls over but the secuirty guard from my place warned me that website girls are probably more dangerous then inside parequ lleras street girls. I thought about all the bad shit that could happen then just convinced my self mayeb to call it a night BECAUSE.

FACEBOOK.

- facebook has not been working for me at all. Some of the girls I friended to the girls I found at gustos were so ugly. Bleh. And also I never knew if all their pics were airbrushed. At least at the clubs or streets I saw them and could decide.

- but I found this one girl who owned her own business. Was talking to her before our trip for some help. Randomly she posts this risque picture of her on her business site. Hmmm I shoot my shot. Ask if she escorts. She quotes me 190 k COP per hour DAMN but she's not available Friday night at all she gets in late. I ask can you come 9 am? She agrees. BINGO.

- trying to fall asleep with a hard on is so awful but I force myself to.

Saturday morning.

- I wake up so tensed ready to go at 8 am. I ask if she can come earlier and she says no. Fck. I pace around get some drinks, ask if she wants to smoke, she says yes.

- we walk up and she showers and we just lay in bed as this girl is just full on chugging tequila, hmm should I be worried?

- we start making out in bed, then I suck her sweet twits, perform DATY and she is very responsive. I get a quick wiff and I feel like a smell is off. But I'm kinda congested so I can't really tell.

- I climb back up and we make out some more.

- she flips me over and performs CBJ. Then she works her self down and under my sack and all over it. And then she just stays there. For a really long time. I think to myself this is too long right.

Oh wait she wants me to raise my hip up more? Oh damn this girl is just rimming me straight up. She does that for a while (not really my thing) and I direct her to get some mouthwash.

We start missionary and man the puss stench is strong.

- ok listen I never been with a girl with a bad fish odor. But it wasnt a fish odor. It kinda smelled like old dried semen? But the more turned on she got the more I smelled it. It almostwrecked me but I was too bricked up to stop now. I just force one out and its great but I immediatly run to the shower. Twice after she leaves cause the smell is still there.

This girl wouldve been my #1 of medellin if it wasnt the stench. But ill probably call her back if I revisit. She says she never does that the scorting thing. Only once in a while and when she does she enjoys it. And I made sure she did.

Also some of the facebook girls I reached out to were pissed I didn't reach back out to them while I was there LOL.

Thanks for the help guys. I flew to carta after so ill write a report about that later.[/QUOTE]Makin it rain Poblado Boy.

[QUOTE=GeorgeCarta22;2868923]
Parque lleras.

- yo wtf. These ugly girls on the streets still wanted $200 USD PER HOUR. Like all of them. They werent even good looking. Tbh I might have been able to negotiate but I was so baffled I just walked away instead of counter offering.[/QUOTE]$200 USD? That's insanity. You must be the least looking Latino on earth and talk zero Spanish. If you can get at least conversationalist they'll start at about $250-300 k COP ($75 US) and you can negotiate from there. These girls will be lucky to make $50 k COP a day working a regular job so keep that in mind. If they're talking to you in dollars then just forget it and leave.

[QUOTE=SlowBlow;2869260]$200 USD? That's insanity. You must be the least looking Latino on earth and talk zero Spanish. If you can get at least conversationalist they'll start at about $250-300 k COP ($75 US) and you can negotiate from there. These girls will be lucky to make $50 k COP a day working a regular job so keep that in mind. If they're talking to you in dollars then just forget it and leave.[/QUOTE]I got more of the 300 k cop prices in Cartagena.

It almost felt tougher in poblado area.

Either I'm risking it with Pasionprepago at 300 k-400 k house visit or.

I'm negotiating with the street girls. Street girls even started at 200 usd.

My Spanish is maybe below intermediate but I'm a fit guy. Wonder if looking Asian contributes to higher prices I dno.

USA Citizen killed during robbery in El Poblado.

After having a meal at a restaurant, the American was approached by four people on two motorcycles to rob him of his belongings. When he resisted, one of the criminals, who was showing him a gun, opted to shoot him in the abdomen, a wound that eventually cost him his life.

The death of this foreigner, 45 years old, occurred at 9:30 pm This Tuesday night at Carrera 33 and Calle 7, in La Florida neighborhood, Commune 14 (El Poblado), in the southeast of Medellin, after he was having a conversation with a woman, who was unharmed by the attack.

[URL]https://www.elcolombiano.com/medellin/asesinaron-a-extranjero-en-el-poblado-en-medio-de-un-hurto-HB23119961[/URL]

[URL]https://www.minuto30.com/el-poblado-mataron-estadounidense-robarlo/1525319/[/URL]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2869129] Still, a doorman is not your personal security guard or problem solver the way most mongers tend to see them.[/QUOTE]Sheer laziness and incompetence are the norm in Colombia. Plus everything is for sale, including doormen.

[QUOTE=JohnnieCash;2869360]USA Citizen killed during robbery in El Poblado.

After having a meal at a restaurant, the American was approached by four people on two motorcycles to rob him of his belongings. When he resisted, one of the criminals, who was showing him a gun, opted to shoot him in the abdomen, a wound that eventually cost him his life.

The death of this foreigner, 45 years old, occurred at 9:30 pm This Tuesday night at Carrera 33 and Calle 7, in La Florida neighborhood, Commune 14 (El Poblado), in the southeast of Medellin, after he was having a conversation with a woman, who was unharmed by the attack.

[URL]https://www.elcolombiano.com/medellin/asesinaron-a-extranjero-en-el-poblado-en-medio-de-un-hurto-HB23119961[/URL]

[URL]https://www.minuto30.com/el-poblado-mataron-estadounidense-robarlo/1525319/[/URL][/QUOTE]Whats new? Every week there is another gringo killed in Poblado. I'm kind of tired of hearing about it to be honest.

[QUOTE=GeorgeCarta22;2869311]I got more of the 300 k cop prices in Cartagena.

It almost felt tougher in poblado area.

Either I'm risking it with Pasionprepago at 300 k-400 k house visit or.

I'm negotiating with the street girls. Street girls even started at 200 usd.

My Spanish is maybe below intermediate but I'm a fit guy. Wonder if looking Asian contributes to higher prices I dno.[/QUOTE]I think what happened is you misunderstood $200 mil COP for $200 usd. In poblado (parque lleras) the street girls range from about 150 k to 250 k COP.

Plus nobody here is just carrying around USD. The currency here is COP. There is no reason to be quoted in USD most of them probably don't even know the exchange rate. You should have responded "cuanto es en pesos?" or "doscientos lukas?

I wouldn't have hesitated to tell those bitxhes to fuck off if they were quoting me 2 months rent money LOL. But then again I wouldn't be caught dead in your little gringo town aka Poblado. I'll leave Poblado to you dumb gringo fuckboys that keep ending up dead.

[QUOTE=GeorgeCarta22;2869311]I got more of the 300 k cop prices in Cartagena.

It almost felt tougher in poblado area.

Either I'm risking it with Pasionprepago at 300 k-400 k house visit or.

I'm negotiating with the street girls. Street girls even started at 200 usd.

My Spanish is maybe below intermediate but I'm a fit guy. Wonder if looking Asian contributes to higher prices I dno.[/QUOTE]I was at Medellin last month and I never got the 200 usd prices from street girls LOL. Street girls are hit or miss. In my recent visit the prices for street girls ranges from 250 k-350 k. I only picked up one lleras street girl cause she's really hot. She had a crazy body and I saw her twice, both sessions are multiple hours and GFE. I was able to negotiate her for 500 k for 4 hours. We went out clubbing and back to my hotel to do the deed. Added her on my roster for my next visit.

I am Asian as well BTW and my Spanish is conversational.

[QUOTE=GeorgeCarta22;2868923]HOLLLLYYYY CRAP.

I walk in and its pretty dead. Maybe 12 girls sitting quietly and I sit on the ledge and immediately talk to this girl who is liek a 6/10 she's nice but not my type. I only have a few days so I have to be very picky. Friend joins in at 11 pm and I turn around and BAM this place is PACKED. We walk around and there are at least a handful of a 8/10 to 10/10 girls. I am ESTATIC. At 12 pm this place is like 10-1 girls and guys and the club is great. We started to get some price negotiations and girls were not dropping below 200-250 for the whole night. This may have been expensive but the one I wanted was super hot. I made sure to negotiate amoutn of pops and when she would be leaving in the morning (5 am).

So honestly. I disagree with a lot of the comments about this place on Thursday. I loved it. Yeah price might be high but the mood is awesome and the pool is great.

.[/QUOTE]Haha I totally agree on Gustos. Expensive but there are some really hotties there. Also fun to read you had a great time with Sophia, she's awesome indeed.

[QUOTE=SlowBlow;2869260]$200 USD? That's insanity. You must be the least looking Latino on earth and talk zero Spanish. If you can get at least conversationalist they'll start at about $250-300 k COP ($75 US) and you can negotiate from there. These girls will be lucky to make $50 k COP a day working a regular job so keep that in mind. If they're talking to you in dollars then just forget it and leave.[/QUOTE]Gustos girls have been charging 200-300 usd for the past 7 years. Only difference is the quality of talent has drastically declined. There use to be steady flow of non pros who would look to make extra cash on the weekends but now it's all pros and even Vennies. 250-300 k is not happening in Gustos on a weekend. I appreciate the guys report because it was accurate.

This is getting ridiculous. It seems like a week doesn't go by w / o news of another male foreigner being killed in Medellin.

[QUOTE=JohnnieCash;2869360]USA Citizen killed during robbery in El Poblado.

After having a meal at a restaurant, the American was approached by four people on two motorcycles to rob him of his belongings. When he resisted, one of the criminals, who was showing him a gun, opted to shoot him in the abdomen, a wound that eventually cost him his life.

The death of this foreigner, 45 years old, occurred at 9:30 pm This Tuesday night at Carrera 33 and Calle 7, in La Florida neighborhood, Commune 14 (El Poblado), in the southeast of Medellin, after he was having a conversation with a woman, who was unharmed by the attack.

[URL]https://www.elcolombiano.com/medellin/asesinaron-a-extranjero-en-el-poblado-en-medio-de-un-hurto-HB23119961[/URL]

[URL]https://www.minuto30.com/el-poblado-mataron-estadounidense-robarlo/1525319/[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JohnnieCash;2869360]USA Citizen killed during robbery in El Poblado.

After having a meal at a restaurant, the American was approached by four people on two motorcycles to rob him of his belongings. When he resisted, one of the criminals, who was showing him a gun, opted to shoot him in the abdomen, a wound that eventually cost him his life.

The death of this foreigner, 45 years old, occurred at 9:30 pm This Tuesday night at Carrera 33 and Calle 7, in La Florida neighborhood, Commune 14 (El Poblado), in the southeast of Medellin, after he was having a conversation with a woman, who was unharmed by the attack.

[URL]https://www.elcolombiano.com/medellin/asesinaron-a-extranjero-en-el-poblado-en-medio-de-un-hurto-HB23119961[/URL]

[URL]https://www.minuto30.com/el-poblado-mataron-estadounidense-robarlo/1525319/[/URL][/QUOTE]Medellin is played out. The good old days have passed. There isn't a person there who can't be bought or trusted.

As I have been saying for a long time now all the murders of Gringos take place in Poblado. None in Centro. I always stay in Centro and pay a fraction of the price of hotels then in Poblado. Everything is cheaper there. Crooks always look to Gringos to steal from. A guy in Centro is not a target there like he would be in Poblado. As you can see it was four crooks who targeted the Gringo they just killed. The groups who target Gringos look where they find Gringos with money. They are not interested in Centro Gringos. Sure you can get robbed in Centro but it is not organized like in Poblado. All this nonsense of $200 asking in Poblado is insane as you can go to all the Casas in Centro for 60 K for a half hour or 90 K for a hour. No risk there and there are plenty of 7's to be had. If you need a Strip Club then go to Barra Extivio and get a 8 for 120 K.

I prefer the casa and SG scene in El Centro but have never stayed there. Do you bring the SG's back to the hotel or just go to the short time hotel they choose. I have just gone to the short time hotel with them but the rooms are crappy and don't have a shower and just a sink. Seems like places like Nutibara would be great and provide security.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2869506]Gustos girls have been charging 200-300 usd for the past 7 years. ...[/QUOTE]He is talking about the girls on the street which is a little unusual. Just read his preference, you would guess he would like the girls in the place.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2869641]He is talking about the girls on the street which is a little unusual. Just read his preference, you would guess he would like the girls in the place.[/QUOTE]Whether on the street on inside of the club called Gustos, $200 usd is currently more than $800'000 COP. Anyone paying that much money for a short time romp is a fucking simp and there is no wonder why these guys are getting robbed and killed like every week LOL.

I have no sympathy for these "Makin it rain" Poblado Fuckboys. I'm sure more of them will continue to come down here flashing their gold chains and their iPhone 15 Pro Max 512 gb phones and make it rain and they will continue to get robbed and killed.

Maybe if enough of these gringos get killed then the rest will stop coming and then the girls will have to lower their prices back down to reality to attract the business of the local parceros.

Here's my deal. 63 years old. American. I live in the Middle East for the past few years (a long story). Cute for my age.

I landed in Medellin 9:00 pm Monday November 13. I'm here for two weeks in a not bad airbnb a stone's throw from Parque de El Poblado. I have a couple of thousand bucks still in my pocket. I'm leaving the evening of Monday November 27.

I spent months using Facebook last summer however I just got a lot of fake profiles. It didn't seem to really be working for me.

A few weeks ago I joined Colombian Cupid. Better, but still no cigar. I met two girls so far, both very very nice people. Both 19. One a single mom. Both chubby which is NOT how their photos look and is not to my taste.

On top of that on Wednesday night somebody stole my phone. I went out to buy a bottle of vodka as you do when it's about 11:00 pm you can't sleep and you are a borderline alcoholic. No guns involved thank God. But some kid came up to me with cardboard tray of snacks jabbering in Spanish and as I said "No gracias" he is sort of bumping into me. Two minutes I realize that he and my phone which was in my pants pocket have disappeared. The good news is that this phone was really a piece of junk which I purposely brought because I had heard about these thefts, however a new cheap smartphone Galaxy A03 set me back about $120 including a SIM and data.

Yesterday afternoon while wandering around a little bit in the general area of Parque lleras I passed a pretty girl. I would say very "girl next door" 20 year old pretty Hispanic which I love. Not chubby. I looked at her. She didn't look away as would happen in my native New York. She made eye contact and said a very friendly "Hola". I am intrigued. With a little Spanish and English she offered two hours of company for 300,000 pesos. I was just not in mood, too jet lagged and still upset about the pickpocketing however I am thinking "That sounds like fun. " Perhaps trolling around the Parque lleras / Provenza area and saying Hola to hot girls is the way to go here.

Everyone seems to get lucky at a different time and place, or unlucky as the case may be.

All serious suggestions are welcome.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2869603]As I have been saying for a long time now all the murders of Gringos take place in Poblado. None in Centro. I always stay in Centro and pay a fraction of the price of hotels then in Poblado. Everything is cheaper there. Crooks always look to Gringos to steal from. A guy in Centro is not a target there like he would be in Poblado. As you can see it was four crooks who targeted the Gringo they just killed. The groups who target Gringos look where they find Gringos with money. They are not interested in Centro Gringos. Sure you can get robbed in Centro but it is not organized like in Poblado. All this nonsense of $200 asking in Poblado is insane as you can go to all the Casas in Centro for 60 K for a half hour or 90 K for a hour. No risk there and there are plenty of 7's to be had. If you need a Strip Club then go to Barra Extivio and get a 8 for 120 K.[/QUOTE]You know you can't even really blame the crooks for killing him. It's like trying to blame a police officer for giving you a speeding ticket when you were the one who was speeding.

These "Makin it Rain" guys are coming down here and they're not RTFF, they're not listening to what we are saying, they're not watching DCbornRob on YouTube. If he had been then he would have known that he should have given up that IPhone 15 Pro Max. He shouldn't have resisted. So in reality he is to blame for his own death. Also willing to bet the bitxc he was with was in cahoots with the crooks. Where did he meet her from fucking tinder or bumble or what??

Look here guys, if you don't want to end up like that guy then leave the IPhone 16 Max Pro Plus or whatever the fuck it is AT HOME and use a cheap redmi burner phone when you get here. And if a dude pulls a gun on you just give him the fucking phone, it's not worth your life.

And also stop meeting bitcxes on tinder and taking them out to wine and dine. Your poblado boys got the game fucked up. Your suppose to just take them to a short time hotel and fuck them, it's not rocket science. You start trying to be Mr Romantic and you end up dead.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2869456]Whats new? Every week there is another gringo killed in Poblado. I'm kind of tired of hearing about it to be honest.[/QUOTE]This.

Sounds like a poster who has an axe to grind. Getting a bit old.

I think Medellin is safer than a lot of other destinations like the Dom Rep, Philippines or Thailand. Can't comment on Mexico as I've never been. Willing to bet that far more westerners are killed in Angeles City (Philippines) than in Colombia in total. Colombianos will try to direct you away from dangerous areas in my experience and Parque Lleras is fairly safe to walk around, even drunk as it's well lit and loads of cops about (especially now as they set up checkpoints on all the entrances to the Parque).

Usually when you read into a foreigner being killed in somewhere like Medellin (or Angeles, Pattaya, Cancun, Sosua, et al.) its usually because the foreigner ended up doing something stupid, like in the post you quoted. Guy was shot resisting a mugging, I'm a self defence practitioner (Krav Maga) and the best course of action in a robbery is to give them what they want. No phone, no matter how shiny or wallet no matter how full is worth getting shot or stabbed over. I'm no fan of muggings but if you get to the point where there is a physical confrontation it's already too late to start defending yourself and you fucked up, prevention is much better than cure on this one, I'd wager that the people who mugged this guy were following him for a while.

By and large Medellin is pretty safe, unless you're an idiot. Just take basic self preservation measures like not getting into fights with locals, don't get involved in the local drugs trade, don't walk down dark alleys, not accepting candy from strangers, so on and so forth.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2869641]He is talking about the girls on the street which is a little unusual. Just read his preference, you would guess he would like the girls in the place.[/QUOTE]Both the gusto girl and street park girls. Once I left gusto charge 150/ HR usd I approached some parque girls who were still saying $200 usd. I didn't even bother countering though.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2869654]Whether on the street on inside of the club called Gustos, $200 usd is currently more than $800'000 COP. Anyone paying that much money for a short time romp is a fucking simp and there is no wonder why these guys are getting robbed and killed like every week LOL.

I have no sympathy for these "Makin it rain" Poblado Fuckboys. I'm sure more of them will continue to come down here flashing their gold chains and their iPhone 15 Pro Max 512 gb phones and make it rain and they will continue to get robbed and killed.

Maybe if enough of these gringos get killed then the rest will stop coming and then the girls will have to lower their prices back down to reality to attract the business of the local parceros.[/QUOTE]To be clear I did not choose any street girls at $200/ HR. I didn't even bother negotiating it. I wonder if I countered at 300 k cop they wouldve responded.

The gusto girls imo isn't too bad at $250 all night with 2 pops guaranteed. My friend got $300 for 3 pops till 5 am so he got the best deal.

Again I was about to get 300 k -400 k cop girls from paisonprepago or mili but the security guard advised against it. Said its more dangerous. I also had a bad experience with photoprepago in cartagena where the girl looked nothing like the pic.

But to do it all over again I would still go back to gustos, knowing they have to submit blood work to the club also gives me more peace of mind too.

[QUOTE=TexasPistol;2869663]Here's my deal. 63 years old. American. I live in the Middle East for the past few years (a long story). Cute for my age.

I landed in Medellin 9:00 pm Monday November 13. I'm here for two weeks in a not bad airbnb a stone's throw from Parque de El Poblado. I have a couple of thousand bucks still in my pocket. I'm leaving the evening of Monday November 27.

I spent months using Facebook last summer however I just got a lot of fake profiles. It didn't seem to really be working for me.

A few weeks ago I joined Colombian Cupid. Better, but still no cigar. I met two girls so far, both very very nice people. Both 19. One a single mom. Both chubby which is NOT how their photos look and is not to my taste.

On top of that on Wednesday night somebody stole my phone. I went out to buy a bottle of vodka as you do when it's about 11:00 pm you can't sleep and you are a borderline alcoholic. No guns involved thank God. But some kid came up to me with cardboard tray of snacks jabbering in Spanish and as I said "No gracias" he is sort of bumping into me. Two minutes I realize that he and my phone which was in my pants pocket have disappeared. The good news is that this phone was really a piece of junk which I purposely brought because I had heard about these thefts, however a new cheap smartphone Galaxy A03 set me back about $120 including a SIM and data.

Yesterday afternoon while wandering around a little bit in the general area of Parque lleras I passed a pretty girl. I would say very "girl next door" 20 year old pretty Hispanic which I love. Not chubby. I looked at her. She didn't look away as would happen in my native New York. She made eye contact and said a very friendly "Hola". I am intrigued. With a little Spanish and English she offered two hours of company for 300,000 pesos. I was just not in mood, too jet lagged and still upset about the pickpocketing however I am thinking "That sounds like fun. " Perhaps trolling around the Parque lleras / Provenza area and saying Hola to hot girls is the way to go here.

Everyone seems to get lucky at a different time and place, or unlucky as the case may be.

All serious suggestions are welcome.[/QUOTE]What are you looking for specifically? All night? Cute girls? GND? Just one hour pop?

I like the silicone girls and girls done up for all night so if I were in your shoes striking out then I would hit up gustos. I would hit it up then get a BUNCH of numbers. All the numbers of all the girls who you think is pretty. Then you can whatsapp message them and negotiate through what's app.

I would also go to loutron and get their numbers too. I believe some of the also do outcalls as well.

You could get street girl numbers but with all the news and everything I would probably be more hesitant especially if you're by yourself. But if you have security and door man then I would feel more comfortable. Always take a photo of their ID too if the building doesn't already do that.

So I was just curious. Since I've been back I wandered around parque lleras quite a few times. Literally all the clubs around the area were empty besides gustos and black diamond maybe.

Has any one been to any other club besides gustos?

I stood outside in front of black diamond and it didn't have good talent walking outside.

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[QUOTE=GeorgeCarta22;2869802]Both the gusto girl and street park girls. Once I left gusto charge 150/ HR usd I approached some parque girls who were still saying $200 usd. I didn't even bother countering though.[/QUOTE]Like others have said, the gusto price is old news. The original post quoted is specifically about street girl. I was just there last night to pick up something I left at the restaurant the night before. One paisa came up to me and she did not quote in USD. She became stone cold and turned away without saying anything when I told her I had a cita waiting. Earlier this week, I was quoted in COP as well. I did see the type of girl you like in the park while they were changing into "work" cloth under those booths to get away from the rain. I guess these might open at 200 USD an hour because they are changing into more formal dress. Last time I was there in good weather, I saw at least one standing there wearing night gown too.

[QUOTE=GeorgeCarta22;2869817]To be clear I did not choose any street girls at $200/ HR. I didn't even bother negotiating it. I wonder if I countered at 300 k cop they wouldve responded.

The gusto girls imo isn't too bad at $250 all night with 2 pops guaranteed. My friend got $300 for 3 pops till 5 am so he got the best deal.

Again I was about to get 300 k -400 k cop girls from paisonprepago or mili but the security guard advised against it. Said its more dangerous. I also had a bad experience with photoprepago in cartagena where the girl looked nothing like the pic.

But to do it all over again I would still go back to gustos, knowing they have to submit blood work to the club also gives me more peace of mind too.[/QUOTE]Whaaaat? Submit blood work to the club. I highly doubt that. They come and go into that place just like any other bar or nightclub. No different than walking into a bar. They pay a cover charge I'm sure, and probably have to have their ID checked but that's it.

[QUOTE=GeorgeCarta22;2869820]What are you looking for specifically? All night? Cute girls? GND? Just one hour pop?.[/QUOTE]I'd like a girl who is under 25, slim, pretty face, beautiful long hair. Who at least seems to like me. I am very polite, clean. I am 63 and look 63 but I look good for 63. Tall. I have blue eyes. I prefer no implants. We can just DFK kissing, cuddling, give each other oral sex. Chat a little on google translate. I'm fine with that. And pay a couple of hundred thousand pesos for a couple of hours.

I am alone. There is not door man. There are a lot of cameras.

Thank you for your advice. Maybe I'll make a foray into Gustos and see what happens.

What bothers me is that I've visited a lot places over these many decades and I have a creepy feeling that a certain percentage of Colombians. Maybe it's 5% or 10%, look at me as prey and they are predators. Maybe I'm being paranoid. However I don't like this feeling. Perhaps: Next year in Cebu? An average Colombian girl would be a really hot girl in the Philippines. And a hot Colombian girl does not exist in the Philippines. Which is why I am in Colombia. (Of course beauty is very subjective; just my personal taste.) However I don't feel too safe around here in El Poblado.

[QUOTE=TexasPistol;2869882]I'd like a girl who is under 25, slim, pretty face, beautiful long hair. Who at least seems to like me. I am very polite, clean. I am 63 and look 63 but I look good for 63. Tall. I have blue eyes. I prefer no implants. We can just DFK kissing, cuddling, give each other oral sex. Chat a little on google translate. I'm fine with that. And pay a couple of hundred thousand pesos for a couple of hours.

I am alone. There is not door man. There are a lot of cameras....[/QUOTE]You can try the bar at Mansion or book a room there for a day. You can search the word Mansion here to find more info. DFK is very YMMV, not a service offered freely.

Judging by so many videos out there, many criminals don't seem to care about being caught on camera. There is a video showing a man gunned down on camera in front of a crowded club on Calle 10 last week.

[QUOTE=MaxKane;2869701]This.

Sounds like a poster who has an axe to grind. Getting a bit old.

I think Medellin is safer than a lot of other destinations like the Dom Rep, Philippines or Thailand. Can't comment on Mexico as I've never been. Willing to bet that far more westerners are killed in Angeles City (Philippines) than in Colombia in total. Colombianos will try to direct you away from dangerous areas in my experience and Parque Lleras is fairly safe to walk around, even drunk as it's well lit and loads of cops about (especially now as they set up checkpoints on all the entrances to the Parque).

Usually when you read into a foreigner being killed in somewhere like Medellin (or Angeles, Pattaya, Cancun, Sosua, et al.) its usually because the foreigner ended up doing something stupid, like in the post you quoted. Guy was shot resisting a mugging, I'm a self defence practitioner (Krav Maga) and the best course of action in a robbery is to give them what they want. No phone, no matter how shiny or wallet no matter how full is worth getting shot or stabbed over. I'm no fan of muggings but if you get to the point where there is a physical confrontation it's already too late to start defending yourself and you fucked up, prevention is much better than cure on this one, I'd wager that the people who mugged this guy were following him for a while.

By and large Medellin is pretty safe, unless you're an idiot. Just take basic self preservation measures like not getting into fights with locals, don't get involved in the local drugs trade, don't walk down dark alleys, not accepting candy from strangers, so on and so forth.[/QUOTE]As a person who has been visiting Thailand and the Philippines for a while, I would disagree that Colombia is safer than those countries. I feel a sense of danger in Colombia that is not present in those countries,. Yes, you can take precautions in Colombia but you have to always be on alert. In Thailand and the PI, I am not always on alert. I would also say that the major cities in Mexico are safer than the big cities in Colombia.

There are a lot of positive things about Colombia but safety and crime is not one of them, in my opinion.

[QUOTE=MaxKane;2869701]
I think Medellin is safer than a lot of other destinations like Thailand. [/QUOTE]OMG no fucking way.

I'm completing trip number 20 to Medellin. While there are many on the board with more time on the ground, I feel comfortable to say I have knowledge of the lay of the land and a feel for trends. I'm not one for a blow by blow review. Rather, I'll just call out a few things people might find helpful.

I stayed at Hotel Dix. First time staying there. The accomodations are fair. It's clean. Convenient location if you hit up Lleras. It is very noisy. I'm not a particularly light sleeper but it was far from the most restful sleep I ever had. It is girl friendly. They have a security guard and a doorman. With so much focus on security lately, I was pleased with everyone I interacted with at Hotel Dix. I'd consider staying there again.

Overall feel: This is just my perception but there is a more on edge feel in MDE. I could be more influenced by the endless stream of bad news lately. But just an on the ground feel. It is different than even a few months ago. A friend that I will hang out with sometimes was pickpocketed in Lleras by a non-working girl. Took his phone. He didn't feel it, so she was good at her craft. He's really street smart. He reached for his phone, felt it wasn't there, looked up and saw the chica running. Though ill-advised, he chased her down and did retrieve it. The other difference is that the prices being asked are much higher. This has been widely reported on. I didn't pay more than 300 k for any girl. But there were some crazy asking prices. It really left me feeling very jaded. But then, you meet a true paisa that accepts the normal prices and MDE is back to being my favorite playground.

I rarely make recommendations but I'll offer up Geraldine at the Mansion. Really hot girl, in my opinion. All things considered, I'd rate her 8. 5 in looks. Granted, I had my beer goggles on but feel pretty confident in that score. Great personality. Amazing, amazing body. The BBBJ was unbelievable. I really can't find a bad word to say about her. No haggling. I would highly recommend.

The Mansion gets alot of bad press here. And I don't really stay at the hotel anymore. But that bar can be a great spot. The girls will try to milk you dry with drinks. But, if you tell one or two no, the chica network quickly relays that message. LOL But a great place to hang out with some good dudes. There are a couple annyoing regulars that seem to think they run the place. They are easily ignored and interesting conversation topics with the chicas. But last night, I counted about 5 girls that were near or above 8's. Probably 10 girls I would do. If you are less transactional, it's a great location to get to know the chica before pulling the trigger. Not a fan of the 50 k entrance fee. But overall, it's cost efficient. I went there with 600 k laat night. Had a blast. Hung out for a few hours. Had several drinks. Offered the standard mansion rate to the chica of my choice. Was a good night.

Gustos is usually fun to me. I was not impressed this trip. There are alot of sharks there. Obviously, someone is paying these prices. There are still some reasonable and nice girls there. But they are becoming a small minority. It was actually a fun place to people watch. You see some of these guys walk in. In 2 seconds, you can see what they are. It's actually funny to watch. The weekend warrior high rollers. The funny part is the sharks smell the blood in the water. I don't begrudge anyone with what they want to spend. But I'm amused by their actions.

Lleras: apart froym my amigo getting pickpocketed, I did pull 2 girls from Lleras and lived to tell about it. Both 250 k for whatever I wanted. Good experiences. And some decent looking girls available. But don't go before 10 pm.

Massage places: I love my massages. Still my favorite: Nuru massage at Happy Massage. I'd recommend Sofia or Lorena. FS not available but if you are into sensual massages, I haven't found one better, but you will shell out big dollars. Tried Aetnea Spa. Drew Andrea. Not a bad experience but I wouldn't return for her.

[QUOTE=GeorgeCarta22;2869821]So I was just curious. Since I've been back I wandered around parque lleras quite a few times. Literally all the clubs around the area were empty besides gustos and black diamond maybe.

Has any one been to any other club besides gustos?

I stood outside in front of black diamond and it didn't have good talent walking outside.[/QUOTE]Keep it Simple Stupid Weekend Warrior Guide to Medellin for those who don't use online apps.

Parque Lleras: Gustos and Black Diamond, which I assume used to be the Parque Lleras bar. Parque Lleras street walkers.

Strip Clubs: Fas Dos, La Isla, and Luna Lunera. These are your safest and best bets.

After party spot: El Faisan.

Daytime Massage: Loutron.

Take Uber everywhere. Rappi for food. Ibiza for a love motel.

For a weekend warrior this is how its done if you don't want to go the facebook or tinder route.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2869880]Whaaaat? Submit blood work to the club. I highly doubt that. They come and go into that place just like any other bar or nightclub. No different than walking into a bar. They pay a cover charge I'm sure, and probably have to have their ID checked but that's it.[/QUOTE]Yeah no idea. Just what a friends family member whos from poblado area told me. He could def be bsing me I have no idea.

On the other hand though my friends protection ripped and the girl said she was getting her results the following week and sent it to him for peace of mind. No idea what to believe.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2869879]Like others have said, the gusto price is old news. The original post quoted is specifically about street girl. I was just there last night to pick up something I left at the restaurant the night before. One paisa came up to me and she did not quote in USD. She became stone cold and turned away without saying anything when I told her I had a cita waiting. Earlier this week, I was quoted in COP as well. I did see the type of girl you like in the park while they were changing into "work" cloth under those booths to get away from the rain. I guess these might open at 200 USD an hour because they are changing into more formal dress. Last time I was there in good weather, I saw at least one standing there wearing night gown too.[/QUOTE]The street girls that quoted me $200 usd per hour were NOTTTTT the girls I like. They were just some really young braced out. No plastic done GND looking girls.

THAT is why I was suprised. If the girl LOOKED pro like done up, nails, plastic top and braz lift then I can get why.

Tbh maybe it was just an off night. And I only have a random Thursday-Friday as a data point.

Ill just have to go to medellin again and again and collect more data.

[QUOTE=TexasPistol;2869882]I'd like a girl who is under 25, slim, pretty face, beautiful long hair. Who at least seems to like me. I am very polite, clean. I am 63 and look 63 but I look good for 63. Tall. I have blue eyes. I prefer no implants. We can just DFK kissing, cuddling, give each other oral sex. Chat a little on google translate. I'm fine with that. And pay a couple of hundred thousand pesos for a couple of hours.

I am alone. There is not door man. There are a lot of cameras.

Thank you for your advice. Maybe I'll make a foray into Gustos and see what happens.

What bothers me is that I've visited a lot places over these many decades and I have a creepy feeling that a certain percentage of Colombians. Maybe it's 5% or 10%, look at me as prey and they are predators. Maybe I'm being paranoid. However I don't like this feeling. Perhaps: Next year in Cebu? An average Colombian girl would be a really hot girl in the Philippines. And a hot Colombian girl does not exist in the Philippines. Which is why I am in Colombia. (Of course beauty is very subjective; just my personal taste.) However I don't feel too safe around here in El Poblado.[/QUOTE]DFK is hard to come by. But you can def work that into your negotiations.

You like the type of girl my friend likes. He was able to find more of the GND look at gustos but not that much.

I would check out loutrons too maybe even some other casas. You could get their whatsapp # from there.

Paisonprepago has a lot of girls you might like. But the internet website is tough to trust. I think a lot of people have used them though.

Hope you get what you're looking for. Gluck.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2869917]You can try the bar at Mansion or book a room there for a day. You can search the word Mansion here to find more info. DFK is very YMMV, not a service offered freely.

Judging by so many videos out there, many criminals don't seem to care about being caught on camera. There is a video showing a man gunned down on camera in front of a crowded club on Calle 10 last week.[/QUOTE]For some reason I thought mansion meant loutron is this not the case?

I went back to reading casa blanca posts and never saw a pool or an area where girls were hanging around. Wtf I think I messed up and didn't check this place out. What do I have to google to find the address of this place. Or does casa blanca= loutron?

[QUOTE=GeorgeCarta22;2870001]For some reason I thought mansion meant loutron is this not the case?

I went back to reading casa blanca posts and never saw a pool or an area where girls were hanging around. Wtf I think I messed up and didn't check this place out. What do I have to google to find the address of this place. Or does casa blanca= loutron?[/QUOTE]Or look for info here. I think the website may not be working.

[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;2838403][URL]http://hotelmedellinplaza.com/[/URL][/QUOTE]You can find it on Google, search for Hotel M. I would avoid Loutron. You don't hear often that experienced monger session there. I would not go to Gusto to look for your type of girls either but you could go check it out for yourself.. You paid a premium for being what they expect you to be. You can test drive 3 girls outside of Gusto vs just one in Gusto when they could all arrive in the same taxi from the same barrio.

I have observed that some girls I know started to put on more makeup after they reach their early 20s

[QUOTE=GeorgeCarta22;2870001]For some reason I thought mansion meant loutron is this not the case?

I went back to reading casa blanca posts and never saw a pool or an area where girls were hanging around. Wtf I think I messed up and didn't check this place out. What do I have to google to find the address of this place. Or does casa blanca= loutron?[/QUOTE]Plug this address into google maps and youll find its location.

Carrera 41 #2 Sur, Cl. 1a Sur #2 Sur-85, Medelln, Antioquia, Colombia

I tried plugging this address into Bing maps and it took me somewhere else. Same thing when I tried plugging it in to MapQuest. It only seems to work on Google maps. I do not understand how Google Maps comes up with this address. I don't completely understand Colombia's address system anyway LOL! I don't think Google does either.

It says Hotel Medellin Plaza on Bing maps

Here is an image of what the location and immediate surrounds looks like Google maps.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2870005] You can test drive 3 girls outside of Gusto vs just one in Gusto when they could all arrive in the same taxi from the same barrio.

I have observed that some girls I know started to put on more makeup after they reach their early 20s[/QUOTE]Can you rephrase this sentence? I'm not sure what you mean. Is "drive 3" a club or are you saying I could get 3 of the same type of girls for the price I paid?

I just don't know how an asian guy like myself would be able to pull that off safely. Would love some tips for my next visit though.

Also thanks for the google map info. Appreciate it!

[QUOTE=GeorgeCarta22;2870050]Can you rephrase this sentence? I'm not sure what you mean. Is "drive 3" a club or are you saying I could get 3 of the same type of girls for the price I paid?

I just don't know how an asian guy like myself would be able to pull that off safely. Would love some tips for my next visit though.

Also thanks for the google map info. Appreciate it![/QUOTE]"could get 3 of the same type of girls for the price I paid".

He is saying the same girls inside Gusto are the same quality as the ones walking around in the park but cost a third of the cost of the ones inside, they all come in the same taxis from the same ghetto. Probably a barrio in Bello, LOL. He says "test drive" because they are ST unlike the chicas inside who are charging for TLN. I did literally pull three chicas from parque llears one night. The last one I paid extra to stay TLN -.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2870046]Plug this address into google maps and youll find its location.

Carrera 41 #2 Sur, Cl. 1a Sur #2 Sur-85, Medelln, Antioquia, Colombia

I tried plugging this address into Bing maps and it took me somewhere else. Same thing when I tried plugging it in to MapQuest. It only seems to work on Google maps. I do not understand how Google Maps comes up with this address. I don't completely understand Colombia's address system anyway LOL! I don't think Google does either.

It says Hotel Medellin Plaza on Bing maps

Here is an image of what the location and immediate surrounds looks like Google maps.[/QUOTE]On my google maps shows as Hotel M (la mansion).

[QUOTE=GeorgeCarta22;2869998]Yeah no idea. Just what a friends family member whos from poblado area told me. He could def be bsing me I have no idea.

On the other hand though my friends protection ripped and the girl said she was getting her results the following week and sent it to him for peace of mind. No idea what to believe.[/QUOTE]I can see a casa asking the girls to get tested as there is a sort of employment aspect to their hours and who works there and who doesn't. But not so at Gustos. As I understand it the girls that go there are no different than you and I in the sense that they just decide to go there. And the bar may or may not care if they are propositioning other customers. Perhaps they facilitate some part of that but my understanding is that there is no direct connection between the business and the girls that show up there to try to get dates. So I don't see how they could even ask for any health information. Interesting story though. But I would not count on it reducing any risk.

As far as a particular chica getting tested, I'm sure if she was worried about pregnancy or disease she would or could do that on her own.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2870067]"could get 3 of the same type of girls for the price I paid".

He is saying the same girls inside Gusto are the same quality as the ones walking around in the park but cost a third of the cost of the ones inside, they all come in the same taxis from the same ghetto. Probably a barrio in Bello, LOL. He says "test drive" because they are ST unlike the chicas inside who are charging for TLN. I did literally pull three chicas from parque llears one night. The last one I paid extra to stay TLN -.[/QUOTE]Ahhh I see.

Maybe I just had an off night or looked super touristy. All the street girls I approached charged the $200/ hour rate and they werent pretty. I only asked to get an idea.

Again this is only 2 nights and maybe 5 girls total so. Not much of a sample size.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2870076]I can see a casa asking the girls to get tested as there is a sort of employment aspect to their hours and who works there and who doesn't. But not so at Gustos. As I understand it the girls that go there are no different than you and I in the sense that they just decide to go there. And the bar may or may not care if they are propositioning other customers. Perhaps they facilitate some part of that but my understanding is that there is no direct connection between the business and the girls that show up there to try to get dates. So I don't see how they could even ask for any health information. Interesting story though. But I would not count on it reducing any risk.

As far as a particular chica getting tested, I'm sure if she was worried about pregnancy or disease she would or could do that on her own.[/QUOTE]True. One of the girls I picked out did say I needed to buy her a drink for club policy. I just went a long with it. Since it was my first night there.

[QUOTE=GeorgeCarta22;2870091]Ahhh I see.

Maybe I just had an off night or looked super touristy. All the street girls I approached charged the $200/ hour rate and they werent pretty. I only asked to get an idea.

Again this is only 2 nights and maybe 5 girls total so. Not much of a sample size.[/QUOTE]I am not sure that these girls did not mean 200 k pesos for an hour. I have not been down there in a while but that was the going rate for a long time. I have hard time seeing this go up to 200 USD for one hour.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2870135]I am not sure that these girls did not mean 200 k pesos for an hour. I have not been down there in a while but that was the going rate for a long time. I have hard time seeing this go up to 200 USD for one hour.[/QUOTE]That's exactly what is happening. No one quotes in USD except for the girls in Gustos from what I understand. It has to be 200 mil and he is hearing doscientos and thinking it's $200 usd.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2870135]I am not sure that these girls did not mean 200 k pesos for an hour. I have not been down there in a while but that was the going rate for a long time. I have hard time seeing this go up to 200 USD for one hour.[/QUOTE]These girls are smart. They say "doscientos" and will take what you give them.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2870076]I can see a casa asking the girls to get tested as there is a sort of employment aspect to their hours and who works there and who doesn't. But not so at Gustos. As I understand it the girls that go there are no different than you and I in the sense that they just decide to go there. And the bar may or may not care if they are propositioning other customers. Perhaps they facilitate some part of that but my understanding is that there is no direct connection between the business and the girls that show up there to try to get dates. So I don't see how they could even ask for any health information. Interesting story though. But I would not count on it reducing any risk.

As far as a particular chica getting tested, I'm sure if she was worried about pregnancy or disease she would or could do that on her own.[/QUOTE]I've never been to Gustos but this place is beginning to sound alot like Helpee without the drama, excitement and numerous hotties.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2870205]These girls are smart. They say "doscientos" and will take what you give them.[/QUOTE]Yes but why on earth would anyone think doscientos means $200 usd and not 200 lukas? When girls in centro say quarenta I don't think it means forty dollars, I think it means 40 mil pesos.

The US dollar is not the currency here and no one is carrying around dollars here either. Except for the poblado boys LOL.

FACTS, where's the lie?

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2869952]Keep it Simple Stupid Weekend Warrior Guide to Medellin for those who don't use online apps.

Parque Lleras: Gustos and Black Diamond, which I assume used to be the Parque Lleras bar. Parque Lleras street walkers.

Strip Clubs: Fas Dos, La Isla, and Luna Lunera. These are your safest and best bets.

After party spot: El Faisan.

Daytime Massage: Loutron.

Take Uber everywhere. Rappi for food. Ibiza for a love motel.

For a weekend warrior this is how its done if you don't want to go the facebook or tinder route.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Turgid;2870208]I've never been to Gustos but this place is beginning to sound alot like Helpee without the drama, excitement and numerous hotties.[/QUOTE]Gustos is not in the same universe as Help, as far as quality, quantity, and fun atmosphere. Though I guess Gustos is still open, so it wins there.

Hi all.

I'm cross-posting with the Bogota forum. I have the opportunity of a last minute trip to Colombia over the Christmas / New Year period. I have been cautioned against Bogota due to a lack of company between Christmas and NYE. Is Medellin likely to be similar? It is slightly more expensive to get to MDE, but don't mind that if there are more options for company.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2870223]Yes but why on earth would anyone think doscientos means $200 usd and not 200 lukas? When girls in centro say quarenta I don't think it means forty dollars, I think it means 40 mil pesos.

The US dollar is not the currency here and no one is carrying around dollars here either. Except for the poblado boys LOL.[/QUOTE]Cuarenta.

I want to be a Poblado boy when I grow up.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2870345]Cuarenta.[/QUOTE]

"This.

Sounds like a poster who has an axe to grind. Getting a bit old.

I think Medellin is safer than a lot of other destinations like the Dom Rep, Philippines or Thailand. Can't comment on Mexico as I've never been. Willing to bet that far more westerners are killed in Angeles City (Philippines) than in Colombia in total. Colombianos will try to direct you away from dangerous areas in my experience and Parque Lleras is fairly safe to walk around, even drunk as it's well lit and loads of cops about (especially now as they set up checkpoints on all the entrances to the Parque).

Usually when you read into a foreigner being killed in somewhere like Medellin (or Angeles, Pattaya, Cancun, Sosua, et al.) its usually because the foreigner ended up doing something stupid, like in the post you quoted. Guy was shot resisting a mugging, I'm a self defence practitioner (Krav Maga) and the best course of action in a robbery is to give them what they want. No phone, no matter how shiny or wallet no matter how full is worth getting shot or stabbed over. I'm no fan of muggings but if you get to the point where there is a physical confrontation it's already too late to start defending yourself and you fucked up, prevention is much better than cure on this one, I'd wager that the people who mugged this guy were following him for a while.

By and large Medellin is pretty safe, unless you're an idiot. Just take basic self preservation measures like not getting into fights with locals, don't get involved in the local drugs trade, don't walk down dark alleys, not accepting candy from strangers, so on and so forth. ".

I've never heard of a tourist being murdered in BKK Pattaya or even fucking Tijuana WTF are you smoking.

[URL]https://www.travelinglifestyle.net/colombia-could-lose-popularity-with-americans-as-crimes-surge/[/URL]

I think Medellin is the most dangerous city in the world for tourists and if you're a monger, your risks are much much higher.

Show me a city with more tourists being murdered, I doubt anywhere in Africa is this dangerous, Rio? Doubtful?

Mexico is safer and they have a full blown drug war going 24/7.

[QUOTE=FlagRunner77;2870332]Hi all.

I'm cross-posting with the Bogota forum. I have the opportunity of a last minute trip to Colombia over the Christmas / New Year period. I have been cautioned against Bogota due to a lack of company between Christmas and NYE. Is Medellin likely to be similar? It is slightly more expensive to get to MDE, but don't mind that if there are more options for company.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]The best place in Colombian between Christmas and New Year is Cali. Unless you have chicas you know from previous trips, it will be hard to find company in Medellin.

So I've been planning this trip for 2 years now but I couldn't find anyone to go until now. Finally bought my ticket.

I will be there from Dec 11th - 17th.

Main priorities are Guatape, Loutron, Cerro El Picacho, Energy Spa, New Life, La Isla, Fase Dos, Luna Lunera, Comuna 13, Want to do a Colombian Party bus.

And Crepes and Waffles (LOL).

Definitely bar hopping all 7 of these days. If anyone wants to join for a beer I'm down.

I've been messaging Facebook girls for a while now. How much should I quote them?

Also any tips? Will probably end up at Gustos one day cause the first 3 days will be in Laureles then Poblado the last 3 days.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2870223]Yes but why on earth would anyone think doscientos means $200 usd and not 200 lukas? When girls in centro say quarenta I don't think it means forty dollars, I think it means 40 mil pesos.

The US dollar is not the currency here and no one is carrying around dollars here either. Except for the poblado boys LOL.[/QUOTE]The girls I met at Gusto clearly spelled out it was dollar. When I asked one the price in peso, she looked up the conversion on Google. I think they have passed the stage of trying to scam mongers. I don't know about the girls on the street as I have never been quoted in dollar. It's always 250 mil to 350 mil. The lowest I got was about a week ago. 200 mil each for a trio. That is only because they asked me how much I would pay. They are inexperienced, done this only twice.

[QUOTE=GeorgeCarta22;2870050]Can you rephrase this sentence? I'm not sure what you mean. Is "drive 3" a club or are you saying I could get 3 of the same type of girls for the price I paid?

I just don't know how an asian guy like myself would be able to pull that off safely. Would love some tips for my next visit though.

Also thanks for the google map info. Appreciate it![/QUOTE]It's roughly what MB explained. The quotes I got earlier this year was 200 to 300 dollars for one hour.

Although I don't go there to monger, but when I passed by after dinner, I would look around. Often I can find one or two that I have no problem taking. That's why I think one needs to shop around and do some homework to decide what is the price you want to pay. You can have 3 tries outside while one inside. Which one do you think will have the better odds of getting better sex? Do you think the same girl will quote monger 200 or 300 USD an hour when they work outside of Gusto? If you know what you are doing at Gusto based on your need, then go ahead.

For security, you can work together with your wingman. If I am really worry about security, I would hire a local, like the housekeeper and pay the same amount for watching my place from outside. That's the general idea.

Any tips to avoid getting mugged while strolling for prostitutes?

[QUOTE=GangsterDog;2870430]I will be there from Dec 11th - 17th.

Want to do a Colombian Party bus.

I've been messaging Facebook girls for a while now. How much should I quote them?[/QUOTE]Sounds like you are going to be very busy if you do all the things you listed.

There are party buses that leave from LA 70 in Laureles. If you walk from the Exito on LA 70 towards the Metro train on the left side of LA 70, you will see the advertisements for the buses. Probably also see the buses.

There is a chica on Facebook who does Comuna 13 tours. Look for Alee Quintero. She will take care of all your needs. There are reports that she will request many drinks during the tour, so keep that in mind.

Offer the FB chicas 200 mil plus one taxi to start, then go to 250 mil total (no taxi) if she rejects the first offer.

[QUOTE=VW1936;2870573]Any tips to avoid getting mugged while strolling for prostitutes?[/QUOTE]It's high risk behavior, and I don't advise it. Better to get a reference, or visit one of the brothels for safety. If you decide to walk around Parque Lleras or Candelaria, below are some tips that might reduce your risk some, but it's still very dangerous.

1. Wear long pants and shoes. Walking around with shorts and sandals signals foreigner from further away before someone can even hear your accent. If your body can tolerate the heat, don't wear sunglasses or a hat either.

2. Don't speak english if you know spanish.

3. Look around to see if anyone is watching or following you before approaching a woman to speak with her.

4. Don't hail taxis from the street. If she asks you to get into a ride with a driver she knows, immediately go inside the nearest indoor business.

5. Don't spend time haggling on price. The more time you spend standing there talking, the more exposed you are.

6. El Centro is off limits at night, and Parque Lleras is ill advised, especially late in the evening.

[QUOTE=VW1936;2870573]Any tips to avoid getting mugged while strolling for prostitutes?[/QUOTE]Dress like a Colombian (wear cheap clothing), do not wear jewelry or watch, preferably leave cell phone at hotel, do not leave a wallet impression on clothing (keep money in socks or flat and loose in pocket and don't carry too much).

Medellin El Centro and Raudal 40,000 peso or 50,000 peso + per room from 9000 peso to 18000 peso, 30 minutes.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2870223]Yes but why on earth would anyone think doscientos means $200 usd and not 200 lukas? When girls in centro say quarenta I don't think it means forty dollars, I think it means 40 mil pesos.

The US dollar is not the currency here and no one is carrying around dollars here either. Except for the poblado boys LOL.[/QUOTE]If a chica tells a guy doscientos and he pulls out US $200 you think she's going to tell him no I meant 200 mil pesos?

[QUOTE=Turgid;2870647]If a chica tells a guy doscientos and he pulls out US $200 you think she's going to tell him no I meant 200 mil pesos?[/QUOTE]Obviously not. My whole point is that the dude would be an idiot to pull out $200 usd. Every country has its own currency (except for countries that use other countries' currencies such as Ecuador, Panama, and El Salvador). Anyways the currency here is Colombian Peso (COP) when you get an steps from a street vender and they say 2 mil or maybe they just say "dos" you know that it's 2 k COP not $2 usd. Same as a taco in Mexico when they say 20 you know it's a Benito not a Jackson.

I need to buy a cheap burner phone from Colombia. Samsung often locks their phones with region locks so that they can be sold be in other regions as brand new. One must insert a sim of the country where they were bought from and make a 5 minutes long call to remove the stupid lock.

Does anyone, who bought a samsung phone from Colombia this year, know where phones sold in Colombia are region locked? And if Yes, using a Colombian Sim for 5 minutes voice call is enough to remove the lock?

Thanks for any advice.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2870367]"This.

Sounds like a poster who has an axe to grind. Getting a bit old.

I think Medellin is safer than a lot of other destinations like the Dom Rep, Philippines or Thailand. Can't comment on Mexico as I've never been. Willing to bet that far more westerners are killed in Angeles City (Philippines) than in Colombia in total. Colombianos will try to direct you away from dangerous areas in my experience and Parque Lleras is fairly safe to walk around, even drunk as it's well lit and loads of cops about (especially now as they set up checkpoints on all the entrances to the Parque).

Usually when you read into a foreigner being killed in somewhere like Medellin (or Angeles, Pattaya, Cancun, Sosua, et al.) its usually because the foreigner ended up doing something stupid, like in the post you quoted. Guy was shot resisting a mugging, I'm a self defence practitioner (Krav Maga) and the best course of action in a robbery is to give them what they want. No phone, no matter how shiny or wallet no matter how full is worth getting shot or stabbed over. I'm no fan of muggings but if you get to the point where there is a physical confrontation it's already too late to start defending yourself and you fucked up, prevention is much better than cure on this one, I'd wager that the people who mugged this guy were following him for a while.

By and large Medellin is pretty safe, unless you're an idiot. Just take basic self preservation measures like not getting into fights with locals, don't get involved in the local drugs trade, don't walk down dark alleys, not accepting candy from strangers, so on and so forth. ".

I've never heard of a tourist being murdered in BKK Pattaya or even fucking Tijuana WTF are you smoking.

[URL]https://www.travelinglifestyle.net/colombia-could-lose-popularity-with-americans-as-crimes-surge/[/URL]

I think Medellin is the most dangerous city in the world for tourists and if you're a monger, your risks are much much higher.

Show me a city with more tourists being murdered, I doubt anywhere in Africa is this dangerous, Rio? Doubtful?

Mexico is safer and they have a full blown drug war going 24/7.[/QUOTE]I have mongered all over Latin America. All the top spots pose risks. I have run into problems in every destination except Panama and that is also because I was only in Panama a week. Without a doubt Cartagena is the most dangerous place for petty and serious crime, but they can all be dangerous even if you are not being stupid. The article makes sense, hopefully tourists pick safer more enjoyable destinations. I still love Medellin and Colombia, but its no longer my number one and I will never return to Cartagena. Well maybe I would under some circumstances, those vennies are fucking sexy haha.

[QUOTE=VW1936;2870573]Any tips to avoid getting mugged while strolling for prostitutes?[/QUOTE]Wear a I Love Pablo Escobar tshirt. Make sure to bring the new I phone 15 pro max. If you're black, the newest air Jordan's so they know you are a basketball fan.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2870223]Yes but why on earth would anyone think doscientos means $200 usd and not 200 lukas? When girls in centro say quarenta I don't think it means forty dollars, I think it means 40 mil pesos.

The US dollar is not the currency here and no one is carrying around dollars here either. Except for the poblado boys LOL.[/QUOTE]Theres no way I misunderstood what they said.

I took out deepl after. To confirm they meant USD.

I actually phrased it "200 k COP per hour? " after I heard them say dolares. I shouldve countered but it wasnt because I misunderstood them.

Or I just give off poblado vibes + "chino" vibes.

[QUOTE=GeorgeCarta22;2870684]Theres no way I misunderstood what they said.

I took out deepl after. To confirm they meant USD.

I actually phrased it "200 k COP per hour? " after I heard them say dolares. I shouldve countered but it wasnt because I misunderstood them.

Or I just give off poblado vibes + "chino" vibes.[/QUOTE]Well then all the Tussi they've been snorting must have fucked up there brains bcuz it will be a cold day in he'll when Street Walkers are getting $200 usd per hour.

[QUOTE=Soker2;2870644]Medellin El Centro and Raudal 40,000 peso or 50,000 peso + per room from 9000 peso to 18000 peso, 30 minutes.[/QUOTE]Facts!

Finally someone is posting real information!

[QUOTE=GangsterDog;2870430]So I've been planning this trip for 2 years now but I couldn't find anyone to go until now. Finally bought my ticket.

I will be there from Dec 11th - 17th.

Main priorities are Guatape, Loutron, Cerro El Picacho, Energy Spa, New Life, La Isla, Fase Dos, Luna Lunera, Comuna 13, Want to do a Colombian Party bus.

And Crepes and Waffles (LOL).

Definitely bar hopping all 7 of these days. If anyone wants to join for a beer I'm down.

I've been messaging Facebook girls for a while now. How much should I quote them?

Also any tips? Will probably end up at Gustos one day cause the first 3 days will be in Laureles then Poblado the last 3 days.[/QUOTE]Don't forget to leave a review about the trip. I'm going in February and I'm doing all I can to be prepared and to pork some latinas. [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue]- Email this guy for his Prepago Map of Medellin. Only cost $10 USD for lifetime access.

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I'm going to keep this short and simple. The disclaimer that should go without saying is what I am about to write is my opinion. US $200 in Gustos, Lleras, or anywhere in Medellin is batshit.

[QUOTE=GeorgeCarta22;2870684]Theres no way I misunderstood what they said.

I took out deepl after. To confirm they meant USD.

I actually phrased it "200 k COP per hour? " after I heard them say dolares. I shouldve countered but it wasnt because I misunderstood them.

Or I just give off poblado vibes + "chino" vibes.[/QUOTE]

In your opinion, would you say it's high risk as well in Santa Fe, Bogotá during the day? Thank you in advance for your time.

[QUOTE=VanessasClient;2870618]It's high risk behavior, and I don't advise it. Better to get a reference, or visit one of the brothels for safety. If you decide to walk around Parque Lleras or Candelaria, below are some tips that might reduce your risk some, but it's still very dangerous.

1. Wear long pants and shoes. Walking around with shorts and sandals signals foreigner from further away before someone can even hear your accent. If your body can tolerate the heat, don't wear sunglasses or a hat either.

2. Don't speak english if you know spanish.

3. Look around to see if anyone is watching or following you before approaching a woman to speak with her.

4. Don't hail taxis from the street. If she asks you to get into a ride with a driver she knows, immediately go inside the nearest indoor business.

5. Don't spend time haggling on price. The more time you spend standing there talking, the more exposed you are.

6. El Centro is off limits at night, and Parque Lleras is ill advised, especially late in the evening.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=VW1936;2870573]Any tips to avoid getting mugged...[/QUOTE]Just some suggestions in general. There are a lot of foreigners in Poblado so it does not really matter how you dress. You should be prepared as if you would be robbed so carry only the things that you could lose, then there is no reason to resist. Avoid walking in deserted area, especially late at night.

El Centro is fine. I wear shorts and sandals all the time and I am not the only one. When it rains, it's better in short and sandals so I don't have to worry about the dirty flooded street or getting wet that much. If I go to the nasty short time hotel or the ones in the club, I can wear the sandals to the shower. When the girl spits on my sandals during blow job, I can wash it easily. So you see, there is no down side. It wasn't so bad at night if you know where you are going but I won't tell you it is safe. Centro is very busy during daytime and a tourist attraction. You can join a walking tour to get familiar with the area with guide. After that, you will know there is no reason to avoid it.

I think this is overall terrific advice. Shorts and sandals in residential neighborhoods is not unusual. Around Centro I rarely see anyone other than foreigners and street people dressed that way. More important than any of this is training yourself to be aware of your surroundings and avoid letting anyone into your personal space.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2870716]Just some suggestions in general. There are a lot of foreigners in Poblado so it does not really matter how you dress. You should be prepared as if you would be robbed so carry only the things that you could lose, then there is no reason to resist. Avoid walking in deserted area, especially late at night.

El Centro is fine. I wear shorts and sandals all the time and I am not the only one. When it rains, it's better in short and sandals so I don't have to worry about the dirty flooded street or getting wet that much. If I go to the nasty short time hotel or the ones in the club, I can wear the sandals to the shower. When the girl spits on my sandals during blow job, I can wash it easily. So you see, there is no down side. It wasn't so bad at night if you know where you are going but I won't tell you it is safe. Centro is very busy during daytime and a tourist attraction. You can join a walking tour to get familiar with the area with guide. After that, you will know there is no reason to avoid it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2870688]Well then all the Tussi they've been snorting must have fucked up there brains bcuz it will be a cold day in he'll when Street Walkers are getting $200 usd per hour.[/QUOTE]No one is saying that streetwalkers are getting $200 an hour. There is just a single report that one single girl asked for US $200 and was turned down. A girl can ask whatever she wants. It doesn't mean that she will get it. Almost all guys will turn down that offer, but a girl can always hope. I haven't heard any guy saying that he accepted that offer. You can't blame a girl for asking. You can always counteroffer with what you think is fair. Even on Facebook, you get girls asking for a lot but it is your choice to accept it or reject it. I almost always counteroffer and sometimes despite the high opening offer, they will take the much lower counteroffer.

[QUOTE=Oterri;2870660]I need to buy a cheap burner phone from Colombia. Samsung often locks their phones with region locks so that they can be sold be in other regions as brand new. One must insert a sim of the country where they were bought from and make a 5 minutes long call to remove the stupid lock.

Does anyone, who bought a samsung phone from Colombia this year, know where phones sold in Colombia are region locked? And if Yes, using a Colombian Sim for 5 minutes voice call is enough to remove the lock?

Thanks for any advice.[/QUOTE]I don't know the detail you are talking about. I bought one with dual SIMs in El Centro. It's unlocked or I never attempt to unlocked it, and it works fine in several countries I have been to since.

You are ahead of the game. Dual SIM phones are always unlocked. They are also a good option for guys who are afraid to take their more expensive phones on the street because they can use them with their home SIM card and a local SIM. I've seen them sold for as little as 150,000 in the Opera mall.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2870852]I don't know the detail you are talking about. I bought one with dual SIMs in El Centro. It's unlocked or I never attempt to unlocked it, and it works fine in several countries I have been to since.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GeorgeCarta22;2870684]Theres no way I misunderstood what they said.

I took out deepl after. To confirm they meant USD.

I actually phrased it "200 k COP per hour? " after I heard them say dolares. I shouldve countered but it wasnt because I misunderstood them.

Or I just give off poblado vibes + "chino" vibes.[/QUOTE]Here's the deal. When they say "doscientos" just assume it is pesos which is what they meant. If you ask "200 k COP per hour? " their predatory instincts kick in and think that you believe it could be dollars so they will instinctively reply "dolares".

[QUOTE=Turgid;2870871]Here's the deal. When they say "doscientos" just assume it is pesos which is what they meant. If you ask "200 k COP per hour? " their predatory instincts kick in and think that you believe it could be dollars so they will instinctively reply "dolares".[/QUOTE]Yeah I understand but I think it's very important to verify. How else would I confirm? I always confirm price, pops, and other activities I want included in that price e before I agree.

Too many stories about miscommunication and girls refusing to leave etc. That I read on this board or another.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2870706]I'm going to keep this short and simple. The disclaimer that should go without saying is what I am about to write is my opinion. US $200 in Gustos, Lleras, or anywhere in Medellin is batshit.[/QUOTE]Yup but gustos girls basically unionize and don't back down. Even the ugly ones.

I think negotiating all Night+ 3 pops at 250 isn't bad. Those were some of the deals I got but only for Thursday night. Friday the prices seemed to be non-negotiable.

This is specifically the 8+/10 girls in gusto. Not the street girls

[QUOTE=GeorgeCarta22;2870876]Yeah I understand but I think it's very important to verify. How else would I confirm? 。。。[/QUOTE]Some of the members have not been to Medellin recently like you, or get a quote from the SGs in Lleras. You don't really need to defend or debate your experience which they lack. We have gone thru this before. Almost the same thing except it was about gusto.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2870688]Well then all the Tussi they've been snorting must have fucked up there brains bcuz it will be a cold day in he'll when Street Walkers are getting $200 usd per hour.[/QUOTE]Yeah that's why I just zoomed pass. They were barely a 6/10 in my subjective opinion.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2870662]I have mongered all over Latin America. All the top spots pose risks. I have run into problems in every destination except Panama and that is also because I was only in Panama a week. Without a doubt Cartagena is the most dangerous place for petty and serious crime, but they can all be dangerous even if you are not being stupid. The article makes sense, hopefully tourists pick safer more enjoyable destinations. I still love Medellin and Colombia, but its no longer my number one and I will never return to Cartagena. Well maybe I would under some circumstances, those vennies are fucking sexy haha.[/QUOTE]Dude I love the vennies in Colombia too. Whenever I picked s girl I liked she happend to be Vennie.

I loved my medellin trip but if medellin is no longer your number 1 then which Latin country is? Trying to figure out if I can make it back there.

[QUOTE=GeorgeCarta22;2870877]Yup but gustos girls basically unionize and don't back down. Even the ugly ones.



I think negotiating all Night+ 3 pops at 250 isn't bad. Those were some of the deals I got but only for Thursday night. Friday the prices seemed to be non-negotiable.

This is specifically the 8+/10 girls in gusto. Not the street girls[/QUOTE]Not a bad deal? Dude you just giving the puta a month of Colombian wage for a night of pleasure. Only your $US tinted eyes and thirst for pussy make you say that. A better strategy is just to collect their digits and message them the next morning. Then you will get the 300 mil price. And probably the $250 dude will be getting sloppy seconds.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2870143]That's exactly what is happening. No one quotes in USD except for the girls in Gustos from what I understand. It has to be 200 mil and he is hearing doscientos and thinking it's $200 usd.[/QUOTE]Everyone in MDE basically knows Gustos is where the newbies, price insensitive, weekend warriors types land. They quote in dollars and dudes pay It. No local or anyone that knows anything about the MDE scene goes there. If they do occasionally it's to get a drink or two and collect digits. Just to put things in perspective I've had atleast 2 girls that I know about for 200 mil why taxi that regularly go to Gustos now.

[QUOTE=MoonShot;2869919]As a person who has been visiting Thailand and the Philippines for a while, I would disagree that Colombia is safer than those countries. I feel a sense of danger in Colombia that is not present in those countries,. Yes, you can take precautions in Colombia but you have to always be on alert. In Thailand and the PI, I am not always on alert. I would also say that the major cities in Mexico are safer than the big cities in Colombia.

There are a lot of positive things about Colombia but safety and crime is not one of them, in my opinion.[/QUOTE]Colombia has never been safe. It's safer than 20 yrs ago for sure. But compared to pre pandemic crime is up both petty and violent. Scams are plenty, and predatory pricing etc is rife particularly in tourist area. An additional fwct is that more I'll informed and naive people are visiting compared to before egged on by YouTubers misrepresenting the landscape. Those that can't speak Spanish, haven't done basic research, maybe never travelled outside of the US and generally ignorant about local norms. That's giving opportunity to more of these Criminals elements. That's it in a nutshell. I've been going to Colombia for 6 yrs and those are my observations.

[QUOTE=GeorgeCarta22;2870876]Yeah I understand but I think it's very important to verify. How else would I confirm? I always confirm price, pops, and other activities I want included in that price e before I agree.

Too many stories about miscommunication and girls refusing to leave etc. That I read on this board or another.[/QUOTE]Instead of saying "doscientos mil pesos colombianos" in your probably broken at best Spanish, just say "doscientos lukas. " The word Luka is Colombian slang that takes place or the words "mil pesos" (think of buck in American English like saying twenty bucks you say veinte lukas). It's much easier to say and less likely that you will butcher it. Also there's no mistaking dolares for lukas as they sound completely different. And it will show you know a little bit about the culture of this country if you are picking up on words like that.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2870890]Not a bad deal? Dude you just giving the puta a month of Colombian wage for a night of pleasure. Only your $US tinted eyes and thirst for pussy make you say that. A better strategy is just to collect their digits and message them the next morning. Then you will get the 300 mil price. And probably the $250 dude will be getting sloppy seconds.[/QUOTE]I'm looking at per pop. Not per girl. Thats how I value it and see it. 300 k per pop vs 250 k 3 pops. 100 k more for that pop is nothing after conversion.

Like I said in my original post I didn't lock into one girl at gustos I took a bunch of numbers for the next night but I didnt have enough days there to be collecting them over a week. I have a bunch of them saved though for my next visit. Also the extra numbers that I took the girls were never available that morning or were busy the next night. I wish I had a week there

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2870895]Everyone in MDE basically knows Gustos is where the newbies, price insensitive, weekend warriors types land. They quote in dollars and dudes pay It. No local or anyone that knows anything about the MDE scene goes there. If they do occasionally it's to get a drink or two and collect digits. Just to put things in perspective I've had atleast 2 girls that I know about for 200 mil why taxi that regularly go to Gustos now.[/QUOTE]I generally disagree. I'm familiar with virtually all of the MDE options. I still enjoy Gustos because it's a nice party vibe. You are exactly right though. The girls at Gustos don't work exclusively at Gustos. They know, as you've pointed out, that there are a ton of newbies that don't know better and will pay their crazy prices. However, if they know you aren't a newbie, the prices are negotiable. I will not. Will not. Will not pay 200 USD. I used to think I was really bad at negotiations. It's not entirely comfortable for me. But the key is them believing and understanding that you know the game of MDE. Not the Gustos game, but the overall game. Will every girl there come down from 200? Nope. But I don't waste my time with them. They are sharks and far less likely to go above minimum expectations.

To me, the benefit of Gustos is the party and I still say it has the highest concentration of physical beauty. Looks aren't everything to me but Gustos has alot of lookers. It also has a more normal feel than say La Isla or strip clubs. So I wouldn't say "those in the know" avoid Gustos. You just have to know how to play the game. Or the sharks will play you as a chump.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2870895]Everyone in MDE basically knows Gustos is where the newbies, price insensitive, weekend warriors types land. They quote in dollars and dudes pay It. No local or anyone that knows anything about the MDE scene goes there. If they do occasionally it's to get a drink or two and collect digits. Just to put things in perspective I've had atleast 2 girls that I know about for 200 mil why taxi that regularly go to Gustos now.[/QUOTE]The only issue with this, after I read 50+ pages of posts here, is there's no club type atmosphere like gustos that has been mentioned. Yes there's the strip clubs, the Casas, Facebook, websites and streets, but I really enjoy the club atmosphere like how they have it in cartagena with dolce del and space.

None of the other clubs (just in poblado that I was walking around to) seemed worth it? I mean black diamond was the only other busy night club there but the girls there didn't look attractive. And every other bar in and around the parque lleras area was EMPTY with the promoters telling me no cover free first drink.

So am I missing another club type atmosphere?

And before you guys say, just take her to your place to bang it out, I really prefer and enjoy the club atmosphere first before going back fo my place.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2870879]Some of the members have not been to Medellin recently like you, or get a quote from the SGs in Lleras. You don't really need to defend or debate your experience which they lack. We have gone thru this before. Almost the same thing except it was about gusto.[/QUOTE]Ha thanks.

I mean sometimes I think its preference around here too. But I'm trying to stay objective to help a bunch of newbies looking in. I don't mind paying the extra 100 k cop per Pop if it means I get the girl that I prefer.

But people seem to think or assume I accepted ugly street girls at 200 usd / hour. I was just reporting my conversations and data points for yall.

[QUOTE=GeorgeCarta22;2870929]Ha thanks.

I mean sometimes I think its preference around here too. But I'm trying to stay objective to help a bunch of newbies looking in. I don't mind paying the extra 100 k cop per Pop if it means I get the girl that I prefer.

But people seem to think or assume I accepted ugly street girls at 200 usd / hour. I was just reporting my conversations and data points for yall.[/QUOTE]I will use this place in Sao Paulo to demonstrate the observation.

[QUOTE=The Cane;2849046][URL]https://www.sharonpremium.com.br/terapeutas[/URL][/QUOTE]

Sharon has different room sizes and different configurations. You can click on the logo at the upper left corner to get a glimpse of one type of room. The following is from different points of observations:

Man 0: never been to the place, only seen it online, You are in this category.
Man 1.D and Man 1.W: been to the place once and was assigned a small basic room.
Man 2.D and Man 2.W: been to the place once and was assigned a large sauna room.
Man 3: been to the place multiple times and been assigned large sauna room and small basic room.

Man 1.D and Man 2.D posted reports. They keep arguing with each other because the disagreement about the rooms. Man 1. W and Man 2. W stay quiet because they learned there are different types of rooms. Man3 already know there are different type of rooms. The above is made up for demonstration. I am Man3 because I have been to both rooms at Sharon. LOL.

I hope you get the point.

Flew in town yesterday after a week vacation in the USA. It was extremely crowded in immigration. Took close to 45 minutes to get out of the airport. I guess a few planes landed at the same time. Also, this week is Thanksgiving in the USA so a lot of people are in or coming to Medellin this week since workers typically get 2 days off during the week in the USA. A lot of pookies and ray rays along with everything imaginable. Looks like all the fluff pieces being written about Medellin being "the place" to visit or even live is continuing its effect. I would think many of the mongering locations will be more congested this week along with everything else in town.

[QUOTE=GeorgeCarta22;2870882]Dude I love the vennies in Colombia too. Whenever I picked s girl I liked she happend to be Vennie.

I loved my medellin trip but if medellin is no longer your number 1 then which Latin country is? Trying to figure out if I can make it back there.[/QUOTE]If its a short trip of less than 2 weeks, I would pick Panama because its safer and feels like you have never even left the USA. They take the dollar and many people speak english. The girls are all business, but in a very good way. The girls charge a lot by Latin American standards, but service is very good and you don't have to worry as much about being scammed or drugged. Casinos, nice hotels, and ease of access to fine dining are all a bonus as well. Panama airport was also surprisingly easy to navigate. Panama has class, but its expensive.

I will say this, Medellin is the most exciting of all the destinations with the most options. If you want to be in semi-dangerous situations that can reward you with smokin hot latinas fucking you hard for a little cash, Medellin has it in bundles. After some close calls, I am not into that scene as much and just want a good time without the hassle fuck that comes with Medellin. I have a feeling in a few years the glory days of Medellin will be a thing of the past wild west style. Like Sousa, Jaco, and CDMX. I hear they were all amazing in their hey-days.

I wonder what will be the next Medellin? Would be fucking cool if Venezuela opened back up to travel for Americans. That play ground would be no joke.

Hey guys! I'll be in Medellin in December with a friend. I'm looking for girls who will go out with us, grab drinks, food, clubs, then back to hotel to continue the party. Any idea of the best place to find a girl (s) that would join us. I was thinking an agency but they'll probably charge an arm & leg, or maybe try seeking? Any suggestion is greatly appreciate or if you have a contact of lady that might be interested, please message me. Thanks guys.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2870962]I will use this place in Sao Paulo to demonstrate the observation.



Sharon has different room sizes and different configurations. You can click on the logo at the upper left corner to get a glimpse of one type of room. The following is from different points of observations:

Man 0: never been to the place, only seen it online, You are in this category.
Man 1.D and Man 1.W: been to the place once and was assigned a small basic room.
Man 2.D and Man 2.W: been to the place once and was assigned a large sauna room.
Man 3: been to the place multiple times and been assigned large sauna room and small basic room.

Man 1.D and Man 2.D posted reports. They keep arguing with each other because the disagreement about the rooms. Man 1. W and Man 2. W stay quiet because they learned there are different types of rooms. Man3 already know there are different type of rooms. The above is made up for demonstration. I am Man3 because I have been to both rooms at Sharon. LOL.

I hope you get the point.[/QUOTE]FANTASTIC demo. In short, always read reviews while acknowledging the different perspectives. I'd go a step farther. Man 2 may not have a care in the world about room size but it's super important to Man 4. Not only do we have different perspectives but we have different priorities.

I heard a couple of months ago that they were going to be removing the police barriers around the park. Have they done that yet?

Happy hunting.

Snook.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2870716]Just some suggestions in general. There are a lot of foreigners in Poblado so it does not really matter how you dress. You should be prepared as if you would be robbed so carry only the things that you could lose, then there is no reason to resist. Avoid walking in deserted area, especially late at night.

El Centro is fine. I wear shorts and sandals all the time and I am not the only one. When it rains, it's better in short and sandals so I don't have to worry about the dirty flooded street or getting wet that much. If I go to the nasty short time hotel or the ones in the club, I can wear the sandals to the shower. When the girl spits on my sandals during blow job, I can wash it easily. So you see, there is no down side. It wasn't so bad at night if you know where you are going but I won't tell you it is safe. Centro is very busy during daytime and a tourist attraction. You can join a walking tour to get familiar with the area with guide. After that, you will know there is no reason to avoid it.[/QUOTE]Perhaps you need to get some girls in your line up in Centro who don't spit when they are blowing you, and even better yet who will swallow your Giz versus spitting on your sandals so they don't have to be decontaminated and pressure washed, especially if they are high end Keenes. LOL.

All kidding aside, I personally would never wear shorts and sandals in Centro simply because not many people dress that way in Centro, and dressing this way further helps to mark you as a foreigner, and a potential target for thieves.

As an example, if your walking in Centro and someone sees you from behind, not being able to see your front side meaning your face, etc. You may be assumed to be a foreigner versus in Poblado where it's common place to see people wearing shorts.

[QUOTE=Snook;2871022]I heard a couple of months ago that they were going to be removing the police barriers around the park. Have they done that yet?

Happy hunting.

Snook.[/QUOTE]Not quite yet but el mandato de Fico Gutiérrez starts in a little over a month from now on Jan 1st and he was the mayor before like from 2016 to 2020 before that idiot Quintero and they never had the barriers before in 2016 thru 2020 under Fico (or at least they didn't have them for any extended period of time like how it is now). So the general consensus is that after Fico takes over again that the vallas will be coming down.

[QUOTE=MoonShot;2869919]As a person who has been visiting Thailand and the Philippines for a while, I would disagree that Colombia is safer than those countries. I feel a sense of danger in Colombia that is not present in those countries.[/QUOTE]Me too. You are right. He is wrong. Colombia is more dangerous than Thailand and the Philippines. My buddy spends months in each country each year. He tells me to get the hell out of Colombia when I send him the latest dead gringo news articles. He has never been to Colombia but the news articles alone has him scared to visit.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2870979]If its a short trip of less than 2 weeks, I would pick Panama because its safer and feels like you have never even left the USA. They take the dollar and many people speak english. The girls are all business, but in a very good way. The girls charge a lot by Latin American standards, but service is very good and you don't have to worry as much about being scammed or drugged. Casinos, nice hotels, and ease of access to fine dining are all a bonus as well. Panama airport was also surprisingly easy to navigate. Panama has class, but its expensive.

I will say this, Medellin is the most exciting of all the destinations with the most options. If you want to be in semi-dangerous situations that can reward you with smokin hot latinas fucking you hard for a little cash, Medellin has it in bundles. After some close calls, I am not into that scene as much and just want a good time without the hassle fuck that comes with Medellin. I have a feeling in a few years the glory days of Medellin will be a thing of the past wild west style. Like Sousa, Jaco, and CDMX. I hear they were all amazing in their hey-days.

I wonder what will be the next Medellin? Would be fucking cool if Venezuela opened back up to travel for Americans. That play ground would be no joke.[/QUOTE]Just judging by your definition it sounds like I would just love medellin more and I should just revisit it. Panama sounds fun but just too much like vegas. I really enjoy the club scene pick up.

Venezuela opening up with be awesome.

What were your close encounter stories?

[QUOTE=GeorgeCarta22;2871054]Just judging by your definition it sounds like I would just love medellin more and I should just revisit it. Panama sounds fun but just too much like vegas. I really enjoy the club scene pick up.

Venezuela opening up with be awesome.

What were your close encounter stories?[/QUOTE]If your new to the game and your budget conscious, I would pick Medellin as well. After a few years and many travels, you just get tired of the same old scams and bullshit and you'll appreciate a Vegas like atmosphere more even though I totally understand the appeal of traveling to a different nation with a different language and culture. I always preach moderation on your travels even though I don't always practice it. I loved hitting Gustos up to pick up a girl and take her to my airbnb with enough time to still hit up la Isla or El Faison for round two or three. A great, but dangerous move is doing the marching powder cab move. Get numbers from the girls at Gustos and go from girl to girl all over the city all night or have them meet you at your airbnb or love motel. I am not going to get into the dirty details because it will make me look foolish, but I will spit some sound advice that may seem obvious, but when your partying hard and looking for excitement- shit happens.

1. Never ever run out of cash while partying! Its hard to even fit a lot of cash in your wallet and when you open your wallet girls will pay attention to how loaded it is. Be discreet with your money and get a money belt and keep an emergency stash in there. Especially if your going hard all night. A lot of times for unknown reasons, late night the atms won't take your card or even run out of cash. Use a burner credit card in the clubs and save the cash for the girls.

2. Always negotiate in pesos and make sure you are clear on the deal. Don't think your Casanova and take a girl back to your place thinking your a romantic doing her a favor to be discreet without discussing price. You could be setting the stage to be rinsed and for her to get it in her head your soft and a target. Set the tone it's your show and she can act in it, but she sure as hell ain't the star.

3. If you end up in places you shouldn't be, always have an exit strategy. Know the exits and when to use them. If you start to notice aggression from the girl or other people around, its time to get the fuck out. I know that sounds stupid, but if your looking for more than the standard safe route and your venturing out to these girls places or bars or hotels outside Poblado, this is sound advice.

4. If in the spots like Parque Lleras or Cartagena, if your going to patrol for street walkers late, keep your guard up and head down. By 1 or 2 am You should have found what your looking for anyway. I have seen guys get cut down by a crowd of people and their shit run.

5. Watch your drink as much as you can and if something is too good to be true, it is. Be realistic about what is transpiring at all times.

6. Never break a deal. It's not worth it. If you find a girl is not giving you good service or she's nasty once you get her naked, politely pay her to leave and avoid the drama and refusing payment. Trust me.

7. Always check I. The. Don't think just because a girl is in a club she doesn't have a fake I. The. Black mail is very alive in this country, although most attempts can just simply be ignored if they don't have your FB or real number.

8. Don't be a tough guy. Most girls and their dealers / drivers carry knives and mace.

9. Don't do drugs or drink with the dealers or cab drivers no matter how fun in the moment it seems. They have nothing to offer you and you have everything to lose with them.

Hope this helps and after you get bored of Medellin, Mexico and Panama will be waiting for you.

Hello There,

Can anyone advise me if it is okay to bring CBD gummies to Colombia? Sorry, but it helps me with getting deeper sleep. I am coming from the US.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2870979]I would pick Panama because its safer and feels like you have never even left the USA.
[/QUOTE]Why the hell would someone travel all the way outside of the US just to go somewhere that felt like they never left the US?

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2870866]You are ahead of the game. Dual SIM phones are always unlocked. They are also a good option for guys who are afraid to take their more expensive phones on the street because they can use them with their home SIM card and a local SIM. I've seen them sold for as little as 150,000 in the Opera mall.[/QUOTE]Dual SIM has nothing to do with region locks. I have a dual sim phone that was region locked and hell of a time to get it unlocked. A real nightmare. Region locks are used to prevent sellers buying brand new phones from cheaper countries and selling them in where costs are higher. To remove region lock one must insert a local sim and make a 5 minutes call, then the phone is no longer brand new in the box.

But if someone has bought samsung a series phones in Colombia, never made any call in Colombia and still managed to use the phone in US then they are not region locked. If they work in Costa Rica but not in US they are region locked.

My understanding is that it is required when flying from Colombia to CR except when you have stayed in major cities like Bogota, Medellin and Cali.

1. Can someone please confirm if it is so?

2. If I do decide to get one in Medellin, will it be "easy" to have it back dated a few days so as to get past the 10 days before arrival in CR issue?

TIA for sharing your experiences.

[QUOTE=GeorgeCarta22;2871054]Just judging by your definition it sounds like I would just love medellin more and I should just revisit it. Panama sounds fun but just too much like vegas. I really enjoy the club scene pick up....[/QUOTE]The city that probably fits you is Sao Paulo. Go check out the Sao Paulo thread. Their clubs are larger and more luxurious than what you see in Medellin. You need to prepare for a larger budget. Just to give you an idea, the cover ranges from 10 USD to 100 USD. You will see more than 100 girls in the popular ones on most nights. In the best clubs, most girls will have no problem making out with you like a girlfriends before the session to get your business, and you are unlikely to have a bad session because of that. I asked do you like to kiss, she said yes, then I said show me, next we are on the sofa making out. LOL I paid 3 times as much for in-call in Sao Paulo than in Medelln for the girl from the clubs. I can find cheaper if I want to spend the time but it will still be more than twice the cost of Medellin after all said and done.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2871031]...
As an example, if your walking in Centro and someone sees you from behind, not being able to see your front side meaning your face, etc. You may be assumed to be a foreigner versus in Poblado where it's common place to see people wearing shorts.[/QUOTE]You are describing it like there is no foreigners in El Centro, and who do you think are all the victims in El Centro. Where do you think someone will come up from behind to steal from me in the crowd because I wear shorts? You know there is another poster living there like me. He is more a centro rat then me.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2871196] in-call [/QUOTE]Should be outcall.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2871199]You are describing it like there is no foreigners in El Centro, and who do you think are all the victims in El Centro. Where do you think someone will come up from behind to steal from me in the crowd because I wear shorts? You know there is another poster living there like me. He is more a centro rat then me.[/QUOTE]My point is that if your wearing shorts in Centro you may be assumed to be a foreigner, not that you may be robbed for wearing shorts. And yes, since the Pandemic ended there are a lot more foreigners in Centro, yet the victims of crime in Centro are primarily locals versus foreigners if that's what your asking.

[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2871128]Why the hell would someone travel all the way outside of the US just to go somewhere that felt like they never left the US?[/QUOTE]Think hard. Pussy.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2871196]The city that probably fits you is Sao Paulo. Go check out the Sao Paulo thread. Their clubs are larger and more luxurious than what you see in Medellin. You need to prepare for a larger budget. Just to give you an idea, the cover ranges from 10 USD to 100 USD. You will see more than 100 girls in the popular ones on most nights. In the best clubs, most girls will have no problem making out with you like a girlfriends before the session to get your business, and you are unlikely to have a bad session because of that. I asked do you like to kiss, she said yes, then I said show me, next we are on the sofa making out. LOL I paid 3 times as much for in-call in Sao Paulo than in Medelln for the girl from the clubs. I can find cheaper if I want to spend the time but it will still be more than twice the cost of Medellin after all said and done.[/QUOTE]I was going to suggest the same. He seems comfortable paying $200 USD or more for his encounters. For that type of monger, São Paulo is the perfect location. Quantity and quality of women is unparalleled, especially for big spenders. You can do it cheaper (the clinicas are great deals), but he will be in heaven hanging out in Scandallo, Bomboa, Cafe Photo, etc.

I will need a Cardiac Ablasion in '24 and was wondering if anyone has had any experience in Medellin (there are a couple of hospitals that do it). I'm American and my insurance deductible is quite high so if I can schedule a procedure I usually do it overseas. A couple of years ago I had hernia surgery in Costa Rica and after a week of fun then surgery and recovery, my out of pocket was less than my deductible. I've had work done in Thailand, China, Taiwan and Australia and always came away cheaper than my deductible, so if I can have some fun and save money, why not. Any experience?

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2870662]I have mongered all over Latin America. All the top spots pose risks. I have run into problems in every destination except Panama and that is also because I was only in Panama a week. Without a doubt Cartagena is the most dangerous place for petty and serious crime, but they can all be dangerous even if you are not being stupid. The article makes sense, hopefully tourists pick safer more enjoyable destinations. I still love Medellin and Colombia, but its no longer my number one and I will never return to Cartagena. Well maybe I would under some circumstances, those vennies are fucking sexy haha.[/QUOTE]Cartagena has been known for being one of the safest places in the country as long as you stay inside the old city walls. While it is not uncommon to get pick pocketed or hounded by beggars, I don't hear many reports of violence inside the ancient city. Outside of the clock tower area, especially further south, things can get dangerous rather quickly.

In Colombia all you can do is try to mitigate your risks; certain behaviors are more risky than others. Having a local guide is the best way to stay out of trouble. Of course, many locals frown upon sex tourism, so finding the right native who is going to give you sound advice can be tricky.

I was not aware there is such a thing as region locked phones. I am aware of carrier (e. G. Tigo, Claro, at&t etc.) locked phones.

[QUOTE=Oterri;2871166]Dual SIM has nothing to do with region locks. I have a dual sim phone that was region locked and hell of a time to get it unlocked. A real nightmare. Region locks are used to prevent sellers buying brand new phones from cheaper countries and selling them in where costs are higher. To remove region lock one must insert a local sim and make a 5 minutes call, then the phone is no longer brand new in the box.

But if someone has bought samsung a series phones in Colombia, never made any call in Colombia and still managed to use the phone in US then they are not region locked. If they work in Costa Rica but not in US they are region locked.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2871390]I was not aware there is such a thing as region locked phones. I am aware of carrier (e. G. Tigo, Claro, at&t etc.) locked phones.[/QUOTE]Colombia has the regional lock thing. If you bring a phone in and it is not registered properly with the government after about 30 days it will be locked no matter what carrier SIM you have. You may have an initial window, but when you get the warning message you do need to go to the carrier and get them to register your phone IME properly. They need to use your ID, in the case of visitors that is your passport. If you don't have it properly registered no Colombian SIM will work - your phone will be effectively blocked in Colombia.

[QUOTE=RaulDepac;2871340]I will need a Cardiac Ablasion in '24 and was wondering if anyone has had any experience in Medellin (there are a couple of hospitals that do it). I'm American and my insurance deductible is quite high so if I can schedule a procedure I usually do it overseas. A couple of years ago I had hernia surgery in Costa Rica and after a week of fun then surgery and recovery, my out of pocket was less than my deductible. I've had work done in Thailand, China, Taiwan and Australia and always came away cheaper than my deductible, so if I can have some fun and save money, why not. Any experience?[/QUOTE]You should post this question with the expats groups in Colombia on Facebook. I know there are at least a few groups and youll find more people actually living in Colombia

That one I do know about. It is not regional. It is Colombian. The subject comes up pretty regularly in this group. I run into it every time I get a new phone. It used to be a real pain until Claro set up a way to register phones on their website or via their app. Carrier locking prevents you using a SIM card issued by another carrier in a phone unless the phone is unlocked. It is neither regional nor country specific. I haven't bought a phone via a carrier in many years. When you run the numbers, the subsidy carriers give you combined with the rate plan requirements make the cost of buying an unlocked phone outright cheaper. That doesn't matter to people who can't come up with US $1,500 to buy a phone outright. Like many other marketing schemes, the carrier subsidy takes advantage of people with limited financial needs. It's the mobile phone equivalent of barrio stores that sell slices of cheese, loose cigarettes, and individual tampons for less than the cost of a full package but at a much higher individual cost.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2871418]Colombia has the regional lock thing. If you bring a phone in and it is not registered properly with the government after about 30 days it will be locked no matter what carrier SIM you have. You may have an initial window, but when you get the warning message you do need to go to the carrier and get them to register your phone IME properly. They need to use your ID, in the case of visitors that is your passport. If you don't have it properly registered no Colombian SIM will work - your phone will be effectively blocked in Colombia.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2871418]Colombia has the regional lock thing. If you bring a phone in and it is not registered properly with the government after about 30 days it will be locked no matter what carrier SIM you have. You may have an initial window, but when you get the warning message you do need to go to the carrier and get them to register your phone IME properly. They need to use your ID, in the case of visitors that is your passport. If you don't have it properly registered no Colombian SIM will work - your phone will be effectively blocked in Colombia.[/QUOTE]The lock you have mentioned is regional lock or a country lock. Completely different that a region lock used by Samsung which in turn is completely different than a carrier lock.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2871503]That one I do know about. It is not regional. It is Colombian. The subject comes up pretty regularly in this group. I run into it every time I get a new phone. It used to be a real pain until Claro set up a way to register phones on their website or via their app. Carrier locking prevents you using a SIM card issued by another carrier in a phone unless the phone is unlocked. It is neither regional nor country specific. I haven't bought a phone via a carrier in many years. When you run the numbers, the subsidy carriers give you combined with the rate plan requirements make the cost of buying an unlocked phone outright cheaper. That doesn't matter to people who can't come up with US $1,500 to buy a phone outright. Like many other marketing schemes, the carrier subsidy takes advantage of people with limited financial needs. It's the mobile phone equivalent of barrio stores that sell slices of cheese, loose cigarettes, and individual tampons for less than the cost of a full package but at a much higher individual cost.[/QUOTE]You don't need $1500 usd to buy an unlocked phone outright. China makes really good quality phones from companies like Huawei and Xiaomi that are very affordable unlocked outright and have decent specs that are nearly the same as more expensive top their phones.

For example my current phone is a Xiaomi Redmi Note 12's which I picked up for $200 usd brand new in the box carrier unlocked. It has as 6.43 inch amoled screen with 90 hz refresh rate, 8 gb of ram (expandable to 12 gb by using part of the storage space as ram) 256 gb of storage, dual sim card and microSD (up to 1 tb) all on the same sim card tray, 5000 mah battery that lasts me all day long, and a 108 megapixel camera and a Mediatek Helio G96 8 core chipset at 2.05 Ghz and a 33 w usb-see fast charger that gets me from 0 to 100 in a little over an hour.

All that for $200 usd and that was several months ago when it first came out, it looks like it can be found for $180 usd now.

And my old phone before this one I had a Huawei P30 which I also picked up for much less than $1500 usd, and it was an absolutely great phone that I had for over 3 years. Before Trump started the tech war against Huawei they were making great phones that rivaled Apple and Samsung and for a fraction of the cost.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2871503]That one I do know about. It is not regional. It is Colombian. The subject comes up pretty regularly in this group. I run into it every time I get a new phone. It used to be a real pain until Claro set up a way to register phones on their website or via their app. Carrier locking prevents you using a SIM card issued by another carrier in a phone unless the phone is unlocked. It is neither regional nor country specific. I haven't bought a phone via a carrier in many years. When you run the numbers, the subsidy carriers give you combined with the rate plan requirements make the cost of buying an unlocked phone outright cheaper. That doesn't matter to people who can't come up with US $1,500 to buy a phone outright. Like many other marketing schemes, the carrier subsidy takes advantage of people with limited financial needs. It's the mobile phone equivalent of barrio stores that sell slices of cheese, loose cigarettes, and individual tampons for less than the cost of a full package but at a much higher individual cost.[/QUOTE]Twice I have had phones I brought with me from Canada, which were fully unlocked, become locked to all carriers in Colombia. First time I went there, had a dual SIM unlocked phone, got a Colombian SIM and number and it worked fine for the 25 days or so I was there. But just before I left there was a text message saying something about needing to have it registered. I ignored it because I was leaving and going back home. The next time I went there it was totally locked, and to get it unlocked I had to go back to the carrier I had been using that last trip, and they had to do some digging and finally got it unblocked.

The second time I brought a different new unlocked phone as a burner phone. Bought a SIM at a dealer store and they provided a number, etc. And said no need to do anything more. I used it for a while then got the same message. I went to a Claro company store and they said that the number was not mine, it was probably the dealerships number, and that I could not do anything about it. So I threw away that SIM, bought another at the Claro store, and they register it properly when you buy it.

Came to MDE to get a bad tooth looked at. Turned out it really needed pulling. The night before my ordeal at the dentist, I picked up a young girl on Calle 10 in Poblado. So many many girls to choose from in and around Parque Lleras. I smiled at a few but waited until the time was right. I always like when a girl responds to "how much" with "how much do you say?" I got her to say a number then cut it in half. She said OK. On the way to the apartment she said her name was Valeri, she was 19, from Vennie land and only arrived 2 weeks ago. Based on her youthful, bubbly nature, I believed her. In the room I offered her some sexy clothing. She went nuts. Stripped immediately and tried everything on. She was very comfortable being naked in front of me and I was very comfortable staring at her and touching her body. This clothing thing is a definite ice breaker. Negotiations for BBBJ began. I claimed my resources were limited, so that put a ceiling on what she wanted. We settled on an additional 70 k. I know it's high but she started this with "I never do this. " Plus she was a hot 9. 5 in every way. So I paid the fee and she did a great job. Well, except for afterwards when she began to wash her sneakers in the sink and beg me for more clothing. She was very much into the sex. Asked me to tell her when I was about to cum so that we could cum together. It didn't work out that way but I loved her enthusiasm. And such a sweet little pussy and cupcake tits. She told me she had a child but her body did not look like it at all. Loaded up with clothing and 220 K she left a little pissed because I wouldn't give her an extra 20 for food.

Next day in the early afternoon I took a cab to El Centro. Big mistake. The cab ride, I mean. Traffic was unreal and the driver picked the wrong streets. I leapt from the cab at the sight of the first large bronze Botero statue. Walking around I noticed the girls were quite unattractive. And although it was obvious why they were there, very few even looked at me when I walked by. The cops seemed much more interested in hassling the trannies. I wound up sitting and just looking at the passing people. I felt safe but also knew to be cautious. If I had more time I probably would have walked around more and settled on some average talent. The smell of marijuana is so pervasive and the number of poor beggars and those out of their minds on drugs. Not as relaxing as I remembered it being. I found myself wishing for one of those biblical thunderstorms that often befalls MDE and sends people scurrying to the doorways, just because it bonds people to one common objective: stay dry.

My next stop was a late dentist appointment where this friendly dentist worked on me for 90 minutes. Afterwards, I had to take antibiotics and Hi-dose IBprofeino, and because of this and the anticipated pain, I thought I might skip the nighttime routine. Glad I didn't. Did a few loops around Lleras. The place, again, was filled with nice looking girls. I wound up sitting in a fairly open spot. I waited until the right girl caught my eye. I noticed one girl joking with a gringo, and I liked her attitude. She and her friends then approached me. I started with some light banter, like "Here comes trouble. " The girls were funny, especially the leader. This is the one I wound up with. On the way to the room I found out she was a Paisa, aged 23, with a young son. Again, she did not look at all like a mother. We had a few laughs trying to cross the streets and avoid getting run over. Also, she nearly stepped on a toddler who was let to roam the sidewalk by her mother, who sat begging for change. I grabbed her hand and we walked as a couple, joking at all the pot sellers who insisted their drugs was better than everyone else's. Back in the room she became more demure, while still enjoying herself. And just one thing told me that she was going to be a 10, the fact that she didn't ask for money up front. She also didn't negotiate at all for BBBJ, just nodded her assent for some promised "propina". I booked for 30 minutes but we hung out for over an hour. The clothing gimmick was unnecessary for her, but she seemed happy enough to take some with her. I won't bore you with the details, other than to say she was the first girl I was with this trip who eagerly enjoyed DATY. She came easily after that. This girl loved sex. I forgot all about the mouth pain and started to mentally plan our honeymoon. I walked her back. We got a beer. I made a date for the next day. We both joked about one of us not showing up. Best session of the trip.

Just a note: Strange to see cops everywhere. Never seen it like this before. Both in Poblado and El Centro. With gates set up to direct your entrance / exit along certain streets. So many offers to sell me drugs, one right in front of a policeman. Absurd. I am heading to BOG tomorrow. Hope all you guys who eat turkey today get yourselves properly stuffed. I'll be doing the stuffing tonight, if you know what I mean.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2871548]Twice I have had phones I brought with me from Canada, which were fully unlocked, become locked to all carriers in Colombia. First time I went there, had a dual SIM unlocked phone, got a Colombian SIM and number and it worked fine for the 25 days or so I was there. But just before I left there was a text message saying something about needing to have it registered. I ignored it because I was leaving and going back home. The next time I went there it was totally locked, and to get it unlocked I had to go back to the carrier I had been using that last trip, and they had to do some digging and finally got it unblocked.

The second time I brought a different new unlocked phone as a burner phone. Bought a SIM at a dealer store and they provided a number, etc. And said no need to do anything more. I used it for a while then got the same message. I went to a Claro company store and they said that the number was not mine, it was probably the dealerships number, and that I could not do anything about it. So I threw away that SIM, bought another at the Claro store, and they register it properly when you buy it.[/QUOTE]You can register it yourself. That message you got had instructions on how to register it. Now a days you can register the phone thru the apps or on the website with either claro or Tigo. Back in the day like 2018 they had a system to where why could call a number or text a number and register it by entering the numbers to your passport and pressing the # button.

This is to a regional or carrier lock this is a system that is used in Colombia to stop stolen phones from working. There is a website called imeicolombia. Com where you check if a phone has been reported stolen and thus will be blocked. If buying a used phone I suggest you check the imei number on that website before buying it. Often dual sim phones will only have one of the imei numbers reported even if it is stolen. Anyways just register the phone when you buy it or bring it in from abroad it takes like 5 mins. You shouldn't have ignored that first message you got when why were leaving if you would have just registered it the then and there you wouldn't have had any problems on your returning trip. And you can do it all thru the phone itself, there is no need to go to the carrier store or a dealer store.

[QUOTE=Oterri;2871167]My understanding is that it is required when flying from Colombia to CR except when you have stayed in major cities like Bogota, Medellin and Cali.

1. Can someone please confirm if it is so?

2. If I do decide to get one in Medellin, will it be "easy" to have it back dated a few days so as to get past the 10 days before arrival in CR issue?

TIA for sharing your experiences.[/QUOTE]You would not be required to vaccinate if you stayed in Medellin and flew out of there as the following cities are excluded from this: Barranquilla, Cali, Cartagena, Medellíand, and San Andrés Providencia.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2871448]You should post this question with the expats groups in Colombia on Facebook. I know there are at least a few groups and youll find more people actually living in Colombia[/QUOTE]Thanks, I didn't think about that.

[QUOTE=StudBucket;2871082]Hello There,

Can anyone advise me if it is okay to bring CBD gummies to Colombia? Sorry, but it helps me with getting deeper sleep. I am coming from the US.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Try warm milk. I can't believe you are asking if it's ok to bring drugs to Colombia.

Spent most of the day watching football. At 7:00 I met V. in parque Lleras for another session. She was late but I was grateful that she showed up. Some of the "showroom shine" had worn off and I began to see that this angel from the night before was much more of a devil than I realized. For one thing, she was drunk. Not wasted, just a little glassy eyed. Her rambling conversation and giddy demeanor told me she was on something. At the liquor store she bought a Four Loco and we made our way to the apartment. Once again, I gave her some sexy clothing. She modeled. We snuggled for a good while. I could tell she wanted to relax and was in no hurry. Great GFE. We did every perverted thing I could think of. To my surprise she brought something called "Anal Lube" and applied it liberally. In the end I told her I was happy to meet a girl as perverted as me. She said, "Si. Anal es rico. " She would have hung out for a while longer but her speech was getting slurred and her eyes heavy. Sometimes I couldn't understand what she was saying and it turned out she was just singing lyrics to songs that popped into her head. Better to send her on her way. I recalled that prior to the real heavy petting she pulled something from her purse and went to the bathroom. I'm pretty sure it was coke. The fire in her loins and aggressive sex afterwards confirmed this. Also the fact that, in our conversation, she told me that last night, after leaving me, she hung out with friends until 8 AM. Like many young kids here, the drugs are just too available and irresistible. On the other hand, she could not have been more sexy and into it. Watching a girl from the street cum, really cum like a freight train, is rare. But V. has a real talent. I no longer had thoughts of planning our honeymoon, but still. She was amazing, sweet, playful and a little crazy. No talk of money until the end when I took out my wallet. Like last night it was 150 K plus 50 k tip. My kind of girl and one I will never forget.

Parque Lleras was dead in the afternoon. No girls. At 7:00 when I met my girl, there were only a few walking around. After the football game, around 11:00 PM, the park was out of control. Packed with people. Hawkers trying to get you in their club. Guys on the prowl or chatting up prospective dates. Cops getting loud and trying to control the drunks. And Girls everywhere, including some real stunners. One or two I had to circle back to confirm that they were as hot as I thought. If I only were a younger man.

Off to Bogota today.

You are 100% correct. I was referring to flagship phones of the iphone 15/ Galaxy S23 ultra variety.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2871530]You don't need $1500 usd to buy an unlocked phone outright. China makes really good quality phones from companies like Huawei and Xiaomi that are very affordable unlocked outright and have decent specs that are nearly the same as more expensive top their phones.

For example my current phone is a Xiaomi Redmi Note 12's which I picked up for $200 usd brand new in the box carrier unlocked. It has as 6.43 inch amoled screen with 90 hz refresh rate, 8 gb of ram (expandable to 12 gb by using part of the storage space as ram) 256 gb of storage, dual sim card and microSD (up to 1 tb) all on the same sim card tray, 5000 mah battery that lasts me all day long, and a 108 megapixel camera and a Mediatek Helio G96 8 core chipset at 2.05 Ghz and a 33 w usb-see fast charger that gets me from 0 to 100 in a little over an hour.

All that for $200 usd and that was several months ago when it first came out, it looks like it can be found for $180 usd now.

And my old phone before this one I had a Huawei P30 which I also picked up for much less than $1500 usd, and it was an absolutely great phone that I had for over 3 years. Before Trump started the tech war against Huawei they were making great phones that rivaled Apple and Samsung and for a fraction of the cost.[/QUOTE]

What happened to your phones was not locking. It was blocking. Colombia requires phones to be registered for reasons of theft control and preventing narcos and guerillas using them with no audit trail. I think you have 30 calendar days to register before the phone gets blocked.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2871548]Twice I have had phones I brought with me from Canada, which were fully unlocked, become locked to all carriers in Colombia. First time I went there, had a dual SIM unlocked phone, got a Colombian SIM and number and it worked fine for the 25 days or so I was there. But just before I left there was a text message saying something about needing to have it registered. I ignored it because I was leaving and going back home. The next time I went there it was totally locked, and to get it unlocked I had to go back to the carrier I had been using that last trip, and they had to do some digging and finally got it unblocked.

The second time I brought a different new unlocked phone as a burner phone. Bought a SIM at a dealer store and they provided a number, etc. And said no need to do anything more. I used it for a while then got the same message. I went to a Claro company store and they said that the number was not mine, it was probably the dealerships number, and that I could not do anything about it. So I threw away that SIM, bought another at the Claro store, and they register it properly when you buy it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2871683]Try warm milk. I can't believe you are asking if it's ok to bring drugs to Colombia.[/QUOTE]I sure hope he remembers to bring his own girl too.

[QUOTE=EdwardQ;2871563]

Next day in the early afternoon I took a cab to El Centro. Big mistake. The cab ride, I mean. Traffic was unreal and the driver picked the wrong streets.[/QUOTE]I suggest downloading and using this app called Picap. It's like Uber but on a moto. I've used it several times and not only is it cheaper than a traditional Uber but it also gets you to your destination faster as the motorcycles can split lanes and make it through traffic faster.

[QUOTE=EdwardQ;2871563]

Just a note: Strange to see cops everywhere. Never seen it like this before. Both in Poblado and El Centro. With gates set up to direct your entrance / exit along certain streets. So many offers to sell me drugs, one right in front of a policeman. Absurd. I am heading to BOG tomorrow. Hope all you guys who eat turkey today get yourselves properly stuffed. I'll be doing the stuffing tonight, if you know what I mean.[/QUOTE]This is thanks to the ex-mayor Daniel Quintero and his leftist regime. He put up the barriers back in February around Plaza Botero and I believe in El Poblado like in March or April. He was overstepping his boundaries; a corrupt liberal politician who is currently under investigation for spending public funds (caja menor) on restaurants and hotels and other frivolous expenses all over the country from Bogota to Santa Marta. He even resigned early and didn't finish his term. In January Fico Gutierrez will be taking over and he is expected to take down the barriers and return some normalcy to Medellin. But until the end of December there is still one of Quinteros corrupt cronies filling in as substitute mayor so I don't expect the barriers to come down until after the change of power takes place.

-Gabacho.

Curious is anyone has stayed at hostels and bring girls back? Assuming you get a private room. Has anyone had any issues? Thoughts?

How do the people stay there react, considering my experience with hostels tend to be busier with people around.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Marxh;2872117]Curious is anyone has stayed at hostels and bring girls back? Assuming you get a private room. Has anyone had any issues? Thoughts?

How do the people stay there react, considering my experience with hostels tend to be busier with people around.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Very few hostels allow guests of any variety.

[QUOTE=Marxh;2872117]Curious is anyone has stayed at hostels and bring girls back? Assuming you get a private room. Has anyone had any issues? Thoughts?

How do the people stay there react, considering my experience with hostels tend to be busier with people around.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

Usually guests and mangements of hostels look down on mongering. Better get a short time hotel and avoid the trouble.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2871865]I suggest downloading and using this app called Picap. It's like Uber but on a moto. I've used it several times and not only is it cheaper than a traditional Uber but it also gets you to your destination faster as the motorcycles can split lanes and make it through traffic faster.

This is thanks to the ex-mayor Daniel Quintero and his leftist regime. He put up the barriers back in February around Plaza Botero and I believe in El Poblado like in March or April. He was overstepping his boundaries; a corrupt liberal politician who is currently under investigation for spending public funds (caja menor) on restaurants and hotels and other frivolous expenses all over the country from Bogota to Santa Marta. He even resigned early and didn't finish his term. In January Fico Gutierrez will be taking over and he is expected to take down the barriers and return some normalcy to Medellin. But until the end of December there is still one of Quinteros corrupt cronies filling in as substitute mayor so I don't expect the barriers to come down until after the change of power takes place.

-Gabacho.[/QUOTE]Yes, I look forward to the return of the gang boys and the violence and muggings in Botero Plaza.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2872144]Yes, I look forward to the return of the gang boys and the violence and muggings in Botero Plaza.[/QUOTE]The gangs, violence, and muggings never left, it's just been pushed outside of the barriers. Coincidencently the majority of the working girls are also outside of the perimeter of the barriers. And in fact it makes the pedestrian walkway (Calle 51) between Cras 52 and 53 much more crowded and prone to muggings.

Even Fernando Botero (RIP) wanted the barriers taken down and voiced his opinion about it before he died. He said his statues were for all of the public, not just for foreign tourists.

Besides the barriers are unconstitutional under Colombian federal law because all plazas, parques, and public places in Colombia are guaranteed by their own constitution to be open to all citizens, even if they are homeless people, informal salespersons, or prostitutes.

Looking for an airbnb in Laureles, with AC and a hot tub and guest friendly. Anyone with options please send me a message.

STD in Centro?

I am sitting on the cement block on the side of the church. Girl motions me to come so I run over like a lost puppy as I always do (I am well trained). She asks me about "no condom". I have been with her 3 times and always with a condom. I do not understand. Her friend says "other girls". I say sometimes. My girl says the dreaded "gonno" word. They both then walk away to stand at the other end of the alley way on the side of the church. I can only interpret this as they heard of someone with gonno. No girl has ever talked about STDs to me before in any city I have been in so I can only assume something is going around. Some of these girls work at Parque Lleras too so if you guys hear of anything please post or send me a message and I will post minus your name / ID.

Centro Barriers.

Far more positives having them than not. I see so many tour guides with some groups as large as 25 people and a lot more tourists in general. The old Premier Plaza is going upper scale with the customers they want to attract. Two new taco restaurants and another steak house place (I think). The two taco places have outside tables and now one of the old time restaurants has added some outdoor tables. Inside the barriers during "police hours" as I like to call it, I do not have to worry about taking my phone out and I see a lot less problems in general. If the barriers go then the vendors return and block a lot of the picture taking of the tourists and bring so much noise with them. I think and hope they are here to stay.

Sushi (serious stuff to discuss).

I love the fake sushi places. Fresh Fish, Hamai, and Colombian Sushi are all the same place. I walked there today for something to do. Their address is a lie. If you do Street View on Google maps they are on the opposite side at the bottom of the small 5 story building. My Sushi & Wok and Gari Food are both the same place also. Same food same receipt. Not that good. The first one is better. So 5 business are actually just 2. Wonder how many more there are.

Violence (comes and goes in spurts).

Afternoon a few days ago. Two black guys fighting. Not sure if 2 locals, 2 foreigners, or 1 of each. Not serious.

Afternoon several days ago. Two street girls mini fight at entrance to ST hotel on side street across from D1. Girl 1 tried walking away into the hotel. Girl 2 grabbed her hair from the back and threw her to the ground by her head. Ouch! And threw some punches. Real punches like a guy would.

9:00 pm tonight. Sitting on the concrete block on the side of the church. Street girl and maybe ex-BF on his motorcycle. Knives out! If he would have connected she would have been blinded or not made it to the hospital if he hit her throat. He was swinging at head level. She cut his seat up. Stabbed his back tire 10 times which I am sure was flat by morning. She flattened the front tire with her 5th stab. Everyone just watched for 10 minutes then started to get them apart. No cops with a police station 1 block away.

Game Over.

Colombians are so friendly my ass. I never saw a tenth of this kind of shit when I was in the Philippines. Going back to Asia. So tired of this shit. This place is all yours. Leaving for the last time in January (if I make it). Did I just hear clapping? OMG! I think I can actually hear some of you guys smiling!

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2871843]What happened to your phones was not locking. It was blocking. Colombia requires phones to be registered for reasons of theft control and preventing narcos and guerillas using them with no audit trail. I think you have 30 calendar days to register before the phone gets blocked.[/QUOTE]Sorry if dumb question. I wouldn't be in Medellin longer than 7 days, but I have google Fi, any phone issues (other than having it stolen) while down there?

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2872189]... The two taco places have outside tables and now one of the old time restaurants has added some outdoor tables....[/QUOTE]I read a news report from H13 N or something like it that more Prevenza restaurants are moving in. It says the one next to WOM is from Provenza but I could be wrong.

[QUOTE=PdSuave;2872295]Sorry if dumb question. I wouldn't be in Medellin longer than 7 days, but I have google Fi, any phone issues (other than having it stolen) while down there?[/QUOTE]My Google FI has been useless this trip. No "Welcome to Colombia" message this trip unlike all my other visits. SIM did not work after 2 weeks. Ordered 2. The second again lasted about 2 weeks. My belief is Google no longer has a deal with the cell phone companies here since we do not register our phones. My third FI SIM I can make calls for 2 weeks now but no WIFI access. PM if you have problems. I will tell you all about Google's idiot help desk!

[QUOTE=PdSuave;2872295]Sorry if dumb question. I wouldn't be in Medellin longer than 7 days, but I have google Fi, any phone issues (other than having it stolen) while down there?[/QUOTE]Fi works great in Medellin. And everywhere else! I find I sometimes have to turn my phone off and back on or wait a bit for it to figure out a new country. But then you are good. Prob used in 10+ countries last year. All good. It's amazing.

Thanks for the STD public service announcement. I guess you felt the need to go there because you like to bareback. So there are STDs around hooker strolls. Can you also confirm there is gambling in Las Vegas?

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2872189]STD in Centro?

I am sitting on the cement block on the side of the church. Girl motions me to come so I run over like a lost puppy as I always do (I am well trained). She asks me about "no condom". I have been with her 3 times and always with a condom. I do not understand. Her friend says "other girls". I say sometimes. My girl says the dreaded "gonno" word. They both then walk away to stand at the other end of the alley way on the side of the church. I can only interpret this as they heard of someone with gonno. No girl has ever talked about STDs to me before in any city I have been in so I can only assume something is going around. Some of these girls work at Parque Lleras too so if you guys hear of anything please post or send me a message and I will post minus your name / ID.

Centro Barriers.

Far more positives having them than not. I see so many tour guides with some groups as large as 25 people and a lot more tourists in general. The old Premier Plaza is going upper scale with the customers they want to attract. Two new taco restaurants and another steak house place (I think). The two taco places have outside tables and now one of the old time restaurants has added some outdoor tables. Inside the barriers during "police hours" as I like to call it, I do not have to worry about taking my phone out and I see a lot less problems in general. If the barriers go then the vendors return and block a lot of the picture taking of the tourists and bring so much noise with them. I think and hope they are here to stay.

Sushi (serious stuff to discuss).

I love the fake sushi places. Fresh Fish, Hamai, and Colombian Sushi are all the same place. I walked there today for something to do. Their address is a lie. If you do Street View on Google maps they are on the opposite side at the bottom of the small 5 story building. My Sushi & Wok and Gari Food are both the same place also. Same food same receipt. Not that good. The first one is better. So 5 business are actually just 2. Wonder how many more there are.

Violence (comes and goes in spurts).

Afternoon a few days ago. Two black guys fighting. Not sure if 2 locals, 2 foreigners, or 1 of each. Not serious.

Afternoon several days ago. Two street girls mini fight at entrance to ST hotel on side street across from D1. Girl 1 tried walking away into the hotel. Girl 2 grabbed her hair from the back and threw her to the ground by her head. Ouch! And threw some punches. Real punches like a guy would.

9:00 pm tonight. Sitting on the concrete block on the side of the church. Street girl and maybe ex-BF on his motorcycle. Knives out! If he would have connected she would have been blinded or not made it to the hospital if he hit her throat. He was swinging at head level. She cut his seat up. Stabbed his back tire 10 times which I am sure was flat by morning. She flattened the front tire with her 5th stab. Everyone just watched for 10 minutes then started to get them apart. No cops with a police station 1 block away.

Game Over.

Colombians are so friendly my ass. I never saw a tenth of this kind of shit when I was in the Philippines. Going back to Asia. So tired of this shit. This place is all yours. Leaving for the last time in January (if I make it). Did I just hear clapping? OMG! I think I can actually hear some of you guys smiling![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2871269]My point is that if your wearing shorts in Centro you may be assumed to be a foreigner...[/QUOTE]I suggest you count how many locals are wearing shorts next time when you go to El Centro,. There are some vendors under Parque Berrio wearing shorts. I saw a whole group of locals sitting by the fence at the corner of the museum wearing shorts. In less then 2 minutes I counted 20 then I gave up.

Based on what you said, a man with blonde hair or over 6 foot tall has the same effect of wearing shorts.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2872379]I suggest you count how many locals are wearing shorts next time when you go to El Centro,. There are some vendors under Parque Berrio wearing shorts. I saw a whole group of locals sitting by the fence at the corner of the museum wearing shorts. In less then 2 minutes I counted 20 then I gave up.[/QUOTE]Years ago I took pictures of a lot of people downtown wearing shorts and ballcaps and posted them here. I do not know how that myth persists.

The same thing was said about Santo Domingo. I asked a chick I was messing with at the time and she said most of the ones you see in slacks are going about their work day. Sure enough go to the mall in the evening and there are plenty of men with their families wearing shorts. So we may be observing something but coming up for the wrong reasons as to why we are seeing it. Just like the dude that made the original "A wolf" observation. He had to come back and admit he had it all wrong. Too late, because people have already ran amuck with his incorrect theory.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2872379]Based on what you said, a man with blonde hair or over 6 foot tall has the same effect of wearing shorts.[/QUOTE]That is why my brother JTK wears what he wants. No matter what he does or does not wear, he is still standing out. Nobody is first going he has on shorts so he is definitely not from here, then secondly saying he is 7 feet tall so there is a chance he is not from here. As far as I know he has not run into any problems from wearing shorts and sandals all the time.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2872379]I suggest you count how many locals are wearing shorts next time when you go to El Centro,. There are some vendors under Parque Berrio wearing shorts. I saw a whole group of locals sitting by the fence at the corner of the museum wearing shorts. In less then 2 minutes I counted 20 then I gave up.

Based on what you said, a man with blonde hair or over 6 foot tall has the same effect of wearing shorts.[/QUOTE]Most (self-respecting) Colombians wear long trousers, it's mainly Venezuelans that are wearing shorts and various loose rapper clothing (and Vennies do love their airflow and sandals). But them wearing shorts due to a different skin complexion doesn't have such a blinding effect like a gringo showing off his white legs.

I don't think I have ever seen a Colombian wearing sandals here (I wonder whether they go in the sneakers to the beach when they play tourist). Venezuelans, sure, they don't even mind wearing flip flops out and about (but then at least have the decency to put on the socks while doing so LOL).

[QUOTE=Balboa;2872144]Yes, I look forward to the return of the gang boys and the violence and muggings in Botero Plaza.[/QUOTE]LOL Exactly. And all the zombies in the park. I hope the barriers stay. It way more chill inside since they're up.

They should install some more benches at the plaza for people to sit though.

I don't know why this particular topic is so persistent. To give it a bit of context, compare the average age of this web site's membership with the average age of Colombian guys who wear shorts around Centro. The bottom line is everyone is free to dress as they please. With freedom comes responsibility and consequences.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2872379]I suggest you count how many locals are wearing shorts next time when you go to El Centro,. There are some vendors under Parque Berrio wearing shorts. I saw a whole group of locals sitting by the fence at the corner of the museum wearing shorts. In less then 2 minutes I counted 20 then I gave up.

Based on what you said, a man with blonde hair or over 6 foot tall has the same effect of wearing shorts.[/QUOTE]

The "gringo" Mike S. (34-38 years old) was killed with a crossbow on a farm in Envigado.

The alleged murderers of the American were a woman and her accomplice, motive being stealing jewelry and money.

[URL]https://www.minuto30.com/con-una-cruceta-al-gringo-mike-smith-lo-mataron-en-una-finca-de-envigado/1531823/?no_cache=1701018994[/URL]

[QUOTE=JohnnieCash;2872401]The "gringo" Mike S. (34-38 years old) was killed with a crossbow on a farm in Envigado.

The alleged murderers of the American were a woman and her accomplice, motive being stealing jewelry and money.

[URL]https://www.minuto30.com/con-una-cruceta-al-gringo-mike-smith-lo-mataron-en-una-finca-de-envigado/1531823/?no_cache=1701018994[/URL][/QUOTE]I was literally just saying like a week ago that there would be more. And what do you know iphone 15, jewelry, money, 2 women. It's like I predicted the future.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2872398]I don't know why this particular topic is so persistent. To give it a bit of context, compare the average age of this web site's membership with the average age of Colombian guys who wear shorts around Centro. The bottom line is everyone is free to dress as they please. With freedom comes responsibility and consequences.[/QUOTE]It's not about freedom or comparison. It's about the irrational fear. Think about it. Do you think the robber is going to rob me if I wear a football shirt and shorts? I personally think the robber will be pretty dumb to do it as it is obvious I don't have much on me. This is an extreme example but you can get the point.

I don't agree or disagree that they target all gringos. I think they target money so they target anyone who they think have money. We think they target all gringos because most only read news related to gringos, or because a large portion of gringos have money relatively speaking.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2872434]It's not about freedom or comparison. It's about the irrational fear. Think about it. Do you think the robber is going to rob me if I wear a football shirt and shorts? I personally think the robber will be pretty dumb to do it as it is obvious I don't have much on me. This is an extreme example but you can get the point.

I don't agree or disagree that they target all gringos. I think they target money so they target anyone who they think have money. We think they target all gringos because most only read news related to gringos, or because a large portion of gringos have money relatively speaking.[/QUOTE]Who's that gringo from Canada who lives homeless on the streets of the Bronx smoking bazuko? I saw him on a YouTube video. They definitely aren't targeting him and he is a gringo.

I agree that they target gringos that appear to have money.

You can't have your cake and eat it too. Benches were removed to discourage loitering in the park. The stated objective of the barriers and the bench removal was to "take back the park" from undesirables (anyone who isn't a tourist). The last Mayor did it as a hail Mary attempt to salvage the sinking campaign of his progressive alliance after it had become clear in the polls that it was quickly trending downward. There were constant photo ops and flashy staged performance events. At one point the barriers were pushed down and sculptures were vandalized by protestors. Mayor Quintero had then re-installed. The streets are saying Fico will remove the barriers when he takes over next year. I think there is a happy medium of restricting street cart vendors with public address systems and allowing the traditional mix of punter rats, chicas, and drug dealers. We will all see what happens two or three months from now.

[QUOTE=JohnnieCash;2872397]LOL Exactly. And all the zombies in the park. I hope the barriers stay. It way more chill inside since they're up.

They should install some more benches at the plaza for people to sit though.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2872532]You can't have your cake and eat it too. Benches were removed to discourage loitering in the park. The stated objective of the barriers and the bench removal was to "take back the park" from undesirables (anyone who isn't a tourist). The last Mayor did it as a hail Mary attempt to salvage the sinking campaign of his progressive alliance after it had become clear in the polls that it was quickly trending downward. There were constant photo ops and flashy staged performance events. At one point the barriers were pushed down and sculptures were vandalized by protestors. Mayor Quintero had then re-installed. The streets are saying Fico will remove the barriers when he takes over next year. I think there is a happy medium of restricting street cart vendors with public address systems and allowing the traditional mix of punter rats, chicas, and drug dealers. We will all see what happens two or three months from now.[/QUOTE]Good explanation. Since the plaza has been "taken back" now and they don't even frisk anyone anymore they should put back the benches, or install more. It's just strange that people have to brake their asses on the park fence or sit uncomfortably crouched alongside museum (with rats frolicking behind, and even then there is often no extra space) to be able to rest while seeing the major tourist attraction. The remaining benches seem to be almost always occupied by the same locals anyways.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2872532]You can't have your cake and eat it too. Benches were removed to discourage loitering in the park. The stated objective of the barriers and the bench removal was to "take back the park" from undesirables (anyone who isn't a tourist). The last Mayor did it as a hail Mary attempt to salvage the sinking campaign of his progressive alliance after it had become clear in the polls that it was quickly trending downward. There were constant photo ops and flashy staged performance events. At one point the barriers were pushed down and sculptures were vandalized by protestors. Mayor Quintero had then re-installed. The streets are saying Fico will remove the barriers when he takes over next year. I think there is a happy medium of restricting street cart vendors with public address systems and allowing the traditional mix of punter rats, chicas, and drug dealers. We will all see what happens two or three months from now.[/QUOTE]I say fuck the barriers and I say fuck Daniel Quintero too.

"Taking back the park from undisreables" is in clear violation of this law (see attached foto). How can you have a law that says that public parks cannot bre closed that they must be open to all the citizens for their enjoyment and free transit while at the same time picking and choosing which citizens are allowed in??

Daniel Quintero is a fucking criminal. I say lock his ass up!

This message is for all you poblado boys aka weekend warriors, passport bros, etc. You come down here flashing your IPhone 15 Pro Max 512 gb and your gold chains and flashy jewelry and this is what will happen to you:

[URL]https://youtu.be/a4zYwnrMkG8?si=iiD7Epf3AygNd2Oi[/URL]

Follow along.

It is absolutely the same few locals who camp out on the benches most days. The older coffee ladies claim them early in the day and take turns making sales rounds and keeping their thermoses on the benches so they have seats when they want them. A few of the same oldtimers sit with them for an hour or so at a time. The second most popular bench alternative after the fences is the fountain on the Nutibara side of the plaza. None of it makes any sense and the barrier entrances have recently been manned by police on a part time basis only. On a related note, I asked a city worker why trees were cut down along the side of the Palacio Uribe cultural center. I had assumed it was to give the authorities an unobstructed CCTV view but he told me it was because the trees were diseased and had to be cut down to avoid them falling on a passerby. He didn't have an answer when I asked if they would be replaced. Ever since the pandemic when something like a couple of dozen people had the entire plaza to ourselves for months, I've felt a closer connection with what goes on there. I didn't think that was possible but the pandemic changed many of our beliefs.

[QUOTE=JohnnieCash;2872584]Good explanation. Since the plaza has been "taken back" now and they don't even frisk anyone anymore they should put back the benches, or install more. It's just strange that people have to brake their asses on the park fence or sit uncomfortably crouched alongside museum (with rats frolicking behind, and even then there is often no extra space) to be able to rest while seeing the major tourist attraction. The remaining benches seem to be almost always occupied by the same locals anyways.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JohnnieCash;2872401]The "gringo" Mike S. (34-38 years old) was killed with a crossbow on a farm in Envigado.

The alleged murderers of the American were a woman and her accomplice, motive being stealing jewelry and money.

[URL]https://www.minuto30.com/con-una-cruceta-al-gringo-mike-smith-lo-mataron-en-una-finca-de-envigado/1531823/?no_cache=1701018994[/URL][/QUOTE]Read the comments to see what (a lot of) Colombians think of male tourists looking for pussy.

[QUOTE=Combo;2872699]Read the comments to see what (a lot of) Colombians think of male tourists looking for pussy.[/QUOTE]Can you really blame them for thinking that way?

To be honest the weekend warriors need to just go away.

[QUOTE=Combo;2872699]Read the comments to see what (a lot of) Colombians think of male tourists looking for pussy.[/QUOTE]There were 8 comments. One said they do not learn. Another said that is what you get for coming here looking for hookers. Another said it is the Venezuelans doing all the killing. The other 5 said to stop blaming the victim and that nobody deserves to die because they sought the services of a hooker. Which of these are you saying is what Colombians think of male tourists looking for pussy?

Different people have different thoughts concerning different things. Is anyone supposed to live their lives based on the diversified thoughts of strangers? The comment saying that is what you get also said you come do it here because it is not legal there. Duuuhhh. As if that constitutes a wrong doing. The same way people from there go to overseas because more money is paid. The same way I go to the racetrack to drive fast because there is a speed limit on the public roads. Am I supposed to not go somewhere something is allowed just because it is not allowed where I live? That would be dumb.

Quintero is out of the picture now. Two years ago he had himself and his core followers convinced he was a future president of Colombia. Now that he resigned in disgrace and his patron Gustavo Petro has more active scandals than all his predecessors combined, only the most delusional believe he has any political future. You might be right about him going to jail. Even if Fico agrees with the barriers I don't see that he has any choice but to remove them to avoid getting the stink of Quintero's disastrous term on him.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2872641]I say fuck the barriers and I say fuck Daniel Quintero too.

"Taking back the park from undisreables" is in clear violation of this law (see attached foto). How can you have a law that says that public parks cannot bre closed that they must be open to all the citizens for their enjoyment and free transit while at the same time picking and choosing which citizens are allowed in??

Daniel Quintero is a fucking criminal. I say lock his ass up![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2872705]Can you really blame them for thinking that way?

To be honest the weekend warriors need to just go away.[/QUOTE]All should be welcome to visit Colombia. Stop worrying about other guys and just enjoy your visit. When I visit, I don't pay any attention to what other guys are doing and paying. I spend what I want and I don't really care what a bunch of anonymous strangers think. There are those who call guys spending a lot of money on girls simps but a number of these guys just make more money than you and the money they spend is not that much to them. I know a number of guys who work in the financial industry in New York City who come down to Medellin. They make millions each year so spending US $100 on a girl is not a big deal to them. Are they simps because they make so much money than you and are willing to spend it? I don't think so. They come down, get the girls they want, have a good time, and go back home happy.

Oh wait a minute it was in Envigado not Centro. My bad. Of course it is stupid to bring gold chains to Colombia. Many moons ago I bought a nice Emerald pinky ring in CTG. Gold was a lot cheaper then. It took a few trips before it was stolen while I was asleep. After that I don't wear any fancy stuff in Colombia. Who am I trying to impress? The only people who would care are crooks and gold digger chicas. In 2010 I stayed in Envigado and I did not see one working girl. Times change I guess.

If I'm honest my opinion is Colombians, men and women, of course know all about the game and the fact that they are of course by far the majority players. What they and I dislike is the flamboyant behavior of some short term punters that gives the country and the game a bad name.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2872705]Can you really blame them for thinking that way?

To be honest the weekend warriors need to just go away.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MoonShot;2872822]All should be welcome to visit Colombia. Stop worrying about other guys and just enjoy your visit. When I visit, I don't pay any attention to what other guys are doing and paying. I spend what I want and I don't really care what a bunch of anonymous strangers think. There are those who call guys spending a lot of money on girls simps but a number of these guys just make more money than you and the money they spend is not that much to them. I know a number of guys who work in the financial industry in New York City who come down to Medellin. They make millions each year so spending US $100 on a girl is not a big deal to them. Are they simps because they make so much money than you and are willing to spend it? I don't think so. They come down, get the girls they want, have a good time, and go back home happy.[/QUOTE]You missed my point entirely. The problem isn't what I think. The problem is what Colombians think. These weekend warrior types are getting murdered by the boat load and they are giving gringos a bad reputation in Colombia. Don't take my word for it, read the comments on the Minuto30 article that Combo pointed out.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2872831]Oh wait a minute it was in Envigado not Centro. My bad. Of course it is stupid to bring gold chains to Colombia. Many moons ago I bought a nice Emerald pinky ring in CTG. Gold was a lot cheaper then. It took a few trips before it was stolen while I was asleep. After that I don't wear any fancy stuff in Colombia. Who am I trying to impress? The only people who would care are crooks and gold digger chicas. In 2010 I stayed in Envigado and I did not see one working girl. Times change I guess.[/QUOTE]Lately, this type of tragic death is happening very frequently. No good. Either there is an organized gang out there who knows how to rob and murder tourists or Newbees keeping their guards off or Americans are easy target?

[QUOTE=CoolGregg;2872941]Lately, this type of tragic death is happening very frequently. No good. Either there is an organized gang out there who knows how to rob and murder tourists or Newbees keeping their guards off or Americans are easy target?[/QUOTE]How many of these fine upstanding tourists would wear their bling and pull out their iPhone 15's in the worst ghetto section of their respective cities? How many would go strolling alone in those same areas day or night?

Yet these same people seem to lose all their common sense when they get on a plane and come here.

For some unknown reason which only makes sense to themselves they want to wear their open chested silk shirts and their bling and expensive watches. Oddly enough they get robbed and sometimes with fatal consequences. They bring girls to their rooms without a hotel reservation desk to verify IDs and pour out alcoholic drinks only to find that they got drugged and robbed and if they are lucky they survived the experience.

If it sounds like I'm blaming the victims, well, that isn't my point. Guys who come here need to remember to bring their common sense as well as their passport. Wearing bling just isn't going to impress anyone. Except the poor, desperate thieves who prey on the weak. Drinking in your room with girls you don't know is just begging to be victimized.

Drinking or not, when you leave a restaurant at night, instead of walking down dark empty streets, load the app. DiDi, Uber whatever and call them to the restaurant instead of walking alone down some dark side streets.

If this doesn't make sense to you. Take a 6 month vacation and stay in mid-town Manhattan. You'll get an education in common sense. Your bad (or careless) habits will get you mugged but probably not killed. After that you'll be prepared to handle yourself in Medellin or any of a number of other Central or South American cities without getting yourself killed.

It's the same for me. There are unfortunate incidents of this sort that are widely reported. I take pains to avoid anyone reading about me in the media. I think the explanation is a combination of the two things you mentioned. It happens to Colombians too but you don't see it reported as intensely as it is when it happens to foreigners. An example of what I mean is the case of the American guy who murdered his Colombian girlfriend. It was covered live 24/7 in all media. Colombian guys killing their girlfriends is something that happens several times a day but it never dominates the airwaves the way that single case did.

[QUOTE=CoolGregg;2872941]Lately, this type of tragic death is happening very frequently. No good. Either there is an organized gang out there who knows how to rob and murder tourists or Newbees keeping their guards off or Americans are easy target?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JohnnieCash;2872389]Most (self-respecting) Colombians wear long trousers, it's mainly Venezuelans that are wearing shorts and various loose rapper clothing (and Vennies do love their airflow and sandals). But them wearing shorts due to a different skin complexion doesn't have such a blinding effect like a gringo showing off his white legs.

I don't think I have ever seen a Colombian wearing sandals here (I wonder whether they go in the sneakers to the beach when they play tourist). Venezuelans, sure, they don't even mind wearing flip flops out and about (but then at least have the decency to put on the socks while doing so LOL).[/QUOTE]How exactly do you know who is Colombian and who is Venezuelan?

[QUOTE=Lugnut;2872987]How exactly do you know who is Colombian and who is Venezuelan?[/QUOTE]You can tell as soon as you hear them talk. The Venezuelans sound completely different and use different words than the Colombians such as "epa" for "hola" and they say "naguara" and "verga" alot. Paisas instead of saying "verga" will say "hijueputa" or "que gonorrea". Also Paisas tend to have a very distinctive accent where they don't pronounce the letter "the" at the end of words surrounded by vowels. For example "pescado" is pronounced "pescao" and mercado is "mercao" etc.

Also paisas tend to be more fare skinned and Venezuelans more darker skinned but that isn't always the case and isn't a for sure way to tell.

Generally the Venezuelans look poorer and work informal jobs such as selling coffee, single cigarettes, and candies from a street cart often made from a stolen grocery store cart which they call a Chasa or Chasita.

[QUOTE=Lugnut;2872987]How exactly do you know who is Colombian and who is Venezuelan?[/QUOTE]I know who is Venezuelan and who is Colombian by knowing the girls, their amigas and novios, seeing with whom they hang out with, and then seeing with whom these people hang, and so on and so forth, quickly you'll see who's who and generally they don't seem to mix. I had a Colombian girl refusing to ask another girl a question for me (there was some commotion and I wanted to know what was it about) because she was a Vennie, so she quickly found a Colombian girl to ask, she identified her non-Venezuelan nationality just by looking around, she didn't even know her.

[QUOTE=CoolGregg;2872941]Lately, this type of tragic death is happening very frequently. No good. Either there is an organized gang out there who knows how to rob and murder tourists or Newbees keeping their guards off or Americans are easy target?[/QUOTE]Organized gangs in Colombia? I don't see how that's possible. And it's absolutely not possible that clueless gringos are an easy target. No way. Unless maybe it's a tragic form of Darwinism.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2873020]Organized gangs in Colombia? I don't see how that's possible. And it's absolutely not possible that clueless gringos are an easy target. No way. Unless maybe it's a tragic form of Darwinism.[/QUOTE]All sarcasm aside, a "tragic form of Darwinism" is exactly what this is. The weekend warriors are going to continue to get scoped, robbed, and or murdered until they learn to leave the iPhone 15 and the bling bling at home. And all that will be left will be us Centro rats who have nothing to steal, and we'll still be getting dirty street pussy on our dirty dix, amen!

[QUOTE=Nounce;2872434]....Do you think the robber is going to rob me if I wear a football shirt and shorts? ......[/QUOTE]Be careful to wear the correct football shirt for the locale you are visiting or you may be attacked for a different reason.

I'll post a couple of reports, since I want to provide details in case it's useful for anyone. In short, Medellin is always awesome.

Days 1-3.

Long report – apologies – but I went for volume this trip and ended up at 11 total girls in 5 days. Pleased with that!

I swear each visit to Colombia, things get weirder. Last trip to Bogota, half the girls offered me bareback sex without me even asking, which of course I accepted! (Got tested, all clean). This trip, a third of the girls straight up asked me to fuck their ass. 2 of the girls said they had never tried it, but wanted to and asked if I'the oblige them. One only wanted anal, the other 2 anal after some pussy banging. 1 wanted it, but we didn't get to that. So yeah, 4 of 11 wanted ass play. Why this trip? What is in the water? No idea.

Cash: Airport withdrawal. Revolut card at Serviciobanco (It's a green, black and white ATM. At the airport, they allow up to $2,000,000 pesos for foreign cards. Got the whole $2 M for $501.19, including fees for a USD to COP rate of 4,035.40. FYI – all the exchange places were giving $3,700 to $3,750 COP per USD. As always, ATM withdrawal much better option! Other withdrawals were at Davivienda, where they charge no fees, but Revolut charged me 5%. In those later days, the exchange rate was worse, but I still ended up at $3,920 / USD for those exchanges, still better than the little shops. The money exchange place right inside the west side of Lleras was at $3,600 to USD! Don't do it!

Stay: Hotel Selis in Poblado, literally 1 block from Lleras southwest entrance. Very nice hotel, less than 1 year old, comfy beds. They are guest friendly, but you only get 1 free guest registration. Each time after that, if they change the name of the guest, they charge $100 k. They are VERY concerned about your safety and stated that they would not let girls leave without me accompanying them downstairs and the front desk confirming that I was okay before the girls leave. I have to believe this is due to all the recent killings of gringos lately.

On a related note, I had never actually had a conversation with any of the police officers near Lleras, but upon exiting the Pollos al Carbon on Calle 10 a very nice officer, first name Jorge, asked me where I was from, how long in town, the usual niceties. After speaking in Spanish for a few minutes, I asked if they were getting English lessons due to all the foreign tourists and he confirmed they are getting English lessons 3 days a week for 4 hours, which seems like a very good thing. We practiced for a bit, and he was doing pretty well! Notthing perfect, but he understood me and I understood him. Then he asked me if I had any interest in the street chicas and I said, Yeah, but I'm careful. To which he added, "You speak Spanish, so you can communicate and evaluate the girls, but be very careful, most are ok, but there are some bad ones. Make sure to get them registered at the hotel, make sure they're not drugged up looking, or overly drunk, etc. And then all will be well". Seems like good advice.

Anyway, on to the girls, in order by day:

Lleras area – Wednesday night to Thursday morning 10 PM – 2 AM.

Dolce – Slim, petite, small tits, great ass. Took her to a "notel / motel" called las cabañas that she recommended, where they rent the rooms for 3-4 hours for a flat price. She gave spectacular oral service, then saw my bottle of lube, put on the condom and asked if she could put it in her ass, since it was more stimulating to her while she plays with herself. 2 condoms later, I was out, after which she wanted bareback anal while she massaged her clit like crazy. All in all, great experience. $150 k to her for her "taxi ride" and $50 k (I think, don't remember) to the hotel.

Plaza Botero – Thursday afternoon and then Lleras area late Thursday to 3 PM Friday.

Went to Botero, bought a couple of beers for some girls, hung out at the Mexican Restaurant across from the church. Upon taking a tour of the plaza, ran across.

Lizbet – petite negrita with an awesome body, spectacular ass and nice slightly more than handful titties, and her hair in bolitas on both sides. A cross of two strippers at my local strip club that I've fantasized about banging, so she was very appealing to me! Went to La Zona Rosa hotel for a quick visit. Once there, she said, "let's wash you and me". Ok. Went to the bathroom and she washed the dick for me, very sensual, good soap, good concentrated effort, all while stroking it and giving me great eye contact. Amazing, I never felt so clean or horny! Went to the bed and she went straight to BBBJ with great tongue and sucking action, no teeth! All CFS from there, which was great, she was very sweet, but just a tad high from the weed she had smoked a little earlier. Went the whole 30 minutes, multiple positions, but finished from behind (en cuatro) like all the girls seem to prefer. Came hard! Strangely, she was a super passionate kisser, just really into it, which I love. Nice way to end the afternoon trip to Botero.

Went back to Lleras area, had some food, took a nap, so I'the be ready to wander Lleras and Calle 10, headed through the park, over to Calle 10, west down 10, until I ran into. Yes, the exact same girl, Lizbet. We exchanged some smiles, pleasantries and she asked if I wanted to go again, since I had told her the girls charged more in Lleras and she came to find out, but hadn't run across anyone she found interesting yet. Debated. Told her maybe. Walked to the end of the block, turned the corner, then turned back around and went and got her. She asked, "You'll pay me what you did this afternoon, right and I'll stay all night?" I thought $100 k total for TLN, hell yeah!. She was very excited, apparently not remembering that I told her Lleras girls charged more. (Not how much, just more). Took her to my hotel, no cost as she was my first registered guest, they took all her cedula information and up we went. This was maybe 2 AM, or so, and she stayed till 3 PM the next day with multiple rounds of kissing, sex, sleep, kissing, sex, sleep, rinse, repeat. Lovely girl. So good, I thought about having her stay longer. Ended up giving her $150 k, plus 4 beers, breakfast and a couple cocktails. Not a bad deal at all! Second best experience of the trip.

Friday night – Went to Botero to see what was what, but it rained buckets, so I took the taxi back to the hotel, rested till about 10 PM, then had a night out at the regular discos, finishing at Casa De La Luna at 6 AM, lots of girls tourists and locals, so good eye candy, but only dancing. Very fun night anyway!

See report #2 for Saturday. Monday morning.

Botero Plaza. Recuperated, wanted to sample a few to see what was up in cheap pussyland, aka Botero area.

Ana – pequeña tiny titties, beautiful smile, probably 19-20 tops, dark hair with lighter highlights throughout, super cute college freshman type look. Went to the room and she did BBBJ for an extra $20 k. It was ok. I don't think she was super experienced. Fucked with a condom for a while with her only allowing about 3/4 penetration because she said, "eres grande!" (yeah, no, good one though), when she got off from riding me and said, "I'll give you everything", and I'm like, "Uh, we already did what I was expecting". To which she said, I have always wanted to try anal and I think you will be patient with me and I love the shape of your dick. Ok, whatever. Compliments will get you everywhere. So I clarified that a) you have NEVER done this, correct? (right) and then B) go slowly, take your time, ease it in, etc. She said, "You do that for me, from behind". Ok, here we go. Got her over the edge of the bed, lots of lube, slowly put it in as she gasped and covered her mouth, told her it will be better once it's all the way in as it's fattest at the tip, slight taper to the base. She's nodding, hand over her mouth, while I slowly get it all the way in her ass. She's really not enjoying it, but kept at it, while I massaged her clit and then she took over the clit massage for me. Went at this for about 5-7 minutes, after which she couldn't take it anymore. Pulled out, washed up a bit, and she gave me a nice BBBJ for a few more minutes till the time was up. $50 k to her, $20 k for BBBJ and then she asked for another $20 k for the ass. I was like, "wait a minute, YOU asked for the ass", to which she smiled and said, "yeah, but you enjoyed yourself, right?" Ok, fine, another $20 k. So $90 k and as we're walking out she's saying how she's never felt a painful sensation like that before, mixed with pleasure, and wondered how long it would take for her anus to stop quivering. It was actually amusing how she was diagnosing how her anus / ass felt after her first anal experience.

On to the next about 30 minutes later.

Andrea – I ran across this girl the afternoon before, Friday, but it started bucketing rain right when I was going to take her to the room. She has a serious lazy eye and / or 2 lazy eyes, because they will cross at just random times. She's not high, could carry on a conversation, has a pretty smile and face, very slim body with slightly visible abs, nice small titties, nice ass, but flatter than the other 2 above. Whatever. Ran across her again on Saturday and I was like, "let's go". Went to the "rojo hotel" out the gate in front of the church, cross the street, 2 doors down. $10 k for the room, $40 k for her, $20 k for BBBJ after I asked if she would do it, etc. She undresses, cleans herself up, then goes to town with the BBBJ. Put on the condom, used a little of my lube, and we fucked every which way positions for the next 25 minutes. Crazily, she said nearly every guy finishes with her in 5 minutes or so, but by this point, I've got my stamina and I made her go the distance. She was panting, complaining "te duras mucho! After too long in a position, etc. But made it to the end. Did not come, as I'm saving it for the 3rd or 4th one of the day. She said, "You'll look for me if you come back tomorrow, right?" Yep, but I'm looking for many tryouts, so probably won't go with you again, I thought to myself. She's cute, fun, smells great and is a great girl, if you don't mind the "bien pinche bizco" appearance.

Back to the Mexican restaurant for some totopos and guac, and beers to recuperate.

About an hour later, make the stroll past the annoying drunk gringos on the bench (without their assembly of 3 trans girls this time) and ran into #3 for the afternoon:

Yessica. Culona - pelo rojo Venezolana in front of the little beer store next to the passageway running down to the bathrooms and across from another little beer place on the corner. I had bought her a beer on Thursday and she's a great, great shit talker about how she's going to fuck your brains out, suck your cock till you can't take it anymore, etc. And so after buying her another beer $6 k for an Aguila, I'm like "Let's go." She's just giggling at this point. Not my typically favorite body type (slim, small tits, round ass), instead she's got medium tits, big shapely ass, great smile with braces. What percentage of girls in Colombia DOESN'T have braces? Anyway, back to La Zona Rosa, full 30 minute session, all the positions, great BBBJ, great action overall, plus she's shit talking the whole time. Just great fun. Told her I wasn't going to come and she's like, "I can make you!" I said, "No you can't!" She did give it her very best effort, pero me aguante! If you like curvy girls, with attitude, who will work hard, you really can't go wrong with her! $50 k for her and the room, $12 k in beers, $20 k for BBBJ. For just over $20 USD, a great deal.

Last one for the afternoon / evening, walked around Botero again, by the statue in the middle between the 2 beer shops on the corner on your left and the other tienda on the corner on the right, facing the museum down a bit on your left, I run across.

Valentina. Pequeña negra – truly spectacular "paquete" in her clothing. Rojo Hotel once again. Once undressed, major kiddie damage, but by this point, I was committed. She didn't ask for extra for bareback oral, and did a really thorough, passionate blowjob. Good moaning, stroking, no teeth, lots of tongue. All good. Then, cowgirl, reverse cowgirl and she asked for "de cuatro". Always de cuatro. It was fine, but that's when I noticed she had that musky vinegar type smell, basically because she hadn't washed herself before we began other than a quick water rinse. Good thing the fan was behind me, and mostly pushed the light nasty smell away from me. Added more lube, which helped tremendously too. Banged away and then all of sudden she starts clenching her pussy muscles something fierce, which was a spectacular sensation and. The big finale cumshot. All good! $40 k to her $10 k to the room, nothing additional.

Additional info, no action, skip if you like, but it was funny / fun:

While waiting to see if I could muster another 5th "ratico" for the day, I sat down on the bench in front of the Mexican restaurant and 2 cute girls immediately start chatting with me. Astonished I could actually understand all their 'Mor. Me encanta tu espanol. Marica, puedes creer que habla espanol ese gringo. Que buena platica. " etc. Too funny. I love all the 'mors and 'maricas. Anyway, they said they were done for the night, but wanted to know if I'the buy them a beer. I knew where this is going, so sure, why not? Got 2 rounds of beers at the Mexican restaurant, then a small plato and a snack. All in about $40 k. They asked what I was doing, I said going back to the hotel to sleep. They were like, "aaaawwww, come on, let's go to La 70 and dance!

You know, I can sleep when I'm dead. Go to my hotel, they register the girls even though they weren't staying (fortunately didn't charge me, although he was going to! Then I changed and we went to La 70 to 2 different places. Got a bottle of rum in each place, plus snacks and some other stuff. I paid for everything and ended up with about 12 rent-a-friends by the end of the night. One of the girls, 'mor Angela, was much cuter than the other and I was actually fantasizing about banging her while we were dancing, but then I ended up dancing with some other dude's girlfriend, while he danced with Angela and then we all swapped again. In the meantime, the other girl, Valeria, who had been on her phone for an hour plus, got a late start drinking but by 3 AM was HAMMERED. I thought to myself, I'm not a babysitter, her problems are not my problems, so I gave Angela $50 k for the taxi for her and Valeria and I jetted. As I'm in the taxi and he's getting ready to leave, the drunk one runs out and tried to grab me through the driver's window, to get me to stay. Instead she got a little cigarette burn on her arm from the one he was smoking, yelped, pulled her arm back and we were off. I apologized for the inconvenience, gave him a tip when he got me to the hotel and that was the end of that night! Total cost of this experience $60 USD for the 2 bottles of rum, snacks, beers for the other folks, and another $20 k to the taxi driver, plus a small tip. All total maybe $70 USD, by far the most I spent the whole trip, but still very fun.

Sorry for these long reports, but it really was a good trip and I want to provide good details, please skim through if you don't want to read the whole thing.

Botero Sunday / Monday Morning – Days 4&5.

Flor. Negra MILF – saw this one standing in front of one of the shoe / purse / phone case sellers, shading herself from the sun. Hot today! She tells me yeah, so hot, nobody's working, except me! I didn't get it at that moment, so I took a stroll around the plaza, past the museum, and when I got back. She was still standing there. This time, she had her shirt a lot more unbuttoned, reached in to adjust her bra and stroked her left tit for me, saying, "Vamos! I responded, "Vamos!" Went to La Zona Rosa, where she washed herself for a good while, I washed myself, and we got on the bed a little damp and proceeded to make it more damp! She did a fantastic oral, lots of tongue, great eye contact, and then she went to get on top. She said, "preservativo? I said, no, while laughing. She's laughing, then goes serious and says, "I'm good without one, if you are. " Yes, yes I am! She rode me, while I'm doing my best to hold out, she's telling me when you're about to come, let me know and you can shoot it anywhere on my body, just not the face. Ok, sounds great! Made it about 5 minutes, switched to doggy, went another 3-5 minutes, and pulled out finishing on her back. Great view, white cum on her black body. Love it! $50 k for the room and her, plus a $50 k tip for the bareback entertainment. Later bought her 3-4 beers at the Mexican restaurant, where she's good friends with pretty much everyone who works there, so the whole conversation was very lively, especially with the futbol match on.

1+ hours later, recuperated, I tell the group, "Ahorita regreso." and make tour of the plaza. Spot a girl that I'the seen the day before who really intrigued me and went to introduce myself to:

Teresa. This was my favorite of the trip, my favorite "look", the girls who have that Andean face, with long black hair, cat eye shaped eyes, high cheekbones and pronounced chin and jawline, slim body. Striking looking and I just really, really like these types of girls. Huge turn on for me. Straight on, this girl's face, to me, was a solid 9. 5, damn near perfect, braces of course, probably only dropped her to a 9. She likely will not be the same for others, but to me, that look, dark hair, dark eyes, dark skin, high cheekbones, etc. Is just my absolute favorite.

Anyway, on to "rojo hotel", where by this point the check-in ladies are just laughing when they see me, as I've been there 4-5 times in 2 days, I buy them a beer and a bag of chips, for which they're very appreciative. Keep the girls happy, they treat you well! $10 k for the room, a bargain.

My indigenous beauty took off her clothes, revealing a very interesting mixture of 1 milk-engorged right breast, plus one normal breast. She saw my expression (excited!) and squirted some milk in my mouth. Love that! What a way to start.

She thoroughly washed herself, I did the same, then we flopped on the bed and got to work. Great BBBJ, lots of tongue, fantastic eye contact that I love so much, great enthusiasm, more milk squirting, tit sucking / milk drinking, then she got on with a condom. She hesitated when I asked her, no condom? Seriously hesitated for what felt like 15-30 seconds, but then she said, "No, no estoy enfermo why no quiero estar." But she hesitated for so long, I nearly thought I'd won the bareback lottery!

No worries, off to condom fucking, all positions probably 20 minutes, nearly all of this with her milky tit in my mouth. At this point I can't believe we haven't gotten the "dreaded knock". Instead, after a cowgirl session, she gets up and says, "I've never tried anal, will you do it with me?" I thought to myself, "What in the actual fuck is going on this week in this town with half the girls wanting anal sex and half of those first-timers! I said, "por supuesto". And this time, she took direction well, lowering her asshole onto my dick slowly, gently easing it in, all the while with lots of lube and patience. Got it fully inserted and she starts riding it slowly, steady deep strokes, without getting too close to it popping out. No painful gasps, not too much in the way of grimacing, lots of clit rubbing, and great moaning. Seemed to enjoy herself, since she kept going long after I though she would stop.

About 10 minutes of anal sex, with a lot of kissing, grinding, etc. I realize just how great she smells and tastes, so I ask if I can eat her out. She's panting a little, stops, lifts her ass off my dick, gives me a big grin and says, Yes! I let her mount my face and eat her out for what felt like 15-20 minutes, all the while looking up at that beautiful face. So fucking tasty, goddamn! I absolutely love eating tasty pussy!!

After eating pussy until my jaw couldn't take it anymore, we stopped, and conversed for probably close to 40-45 minutes. She's just a very nice girl, pretty damn smart, lots of good conversation on a range of topics, which for a 19 year old, I was very impressed by. Most of the 19 year olds only think about looks, looks, clothing, makeup, looks, shoes, etc. This girl was a genuine treat to spend time with. After a good while I realized it was DARK outside the window. She says, "we should probably go", and so we left the hotel. The ladies at the front waved goodbye, didn't ask for any additional money for overstaying the paid half hour by well over an hour, which was great. Best experience this trip, mainly for just how great this girl was as a human being.

Lleras Sunday night 11 PM to midnight.

Of course, after the great experience with my high cheekbones pretty girl, I knew the next one was not going to match up, but you know what, I'm a horny motherfucker and it's my last true night in town. After recuperating at the hotel for a while, I walk down to the little beer shop on the NW corner of LLeras, buy a beer and start wandering the parque. Immediately, I run across another of my favorite types, a negra MILF from Cali:

Laura, another big shit talker, which by now is 50/50 if it's going to be the same in the room. Talked all about what she'll do, great blowjob, no condom of course, only $200 k for sex and, oh I also really love it IN THE ASS. All that for a Lleras girl at $200 k is not bad, I'm thinking. By now, I'm ready again, so I say, yeah, let's go. 50/50, I'll roll the dice. Go to the little place on Calle 10, yellow paint, called Garden Lleras Hostel / Hotel, and which rents rooms by the hour when it's busy in Lleras. Good news: they card you and the girl and take photocopies of the ID. Bad news, short term rental is now up to $100 k for up to 3 hours. Damn.$70 k when I was last there in August, also a Sunday night. Bought the girl and me a beer from the front desk lady (very sweet, forget her name) and go to the room. She undresses, and not too bad mommy damage for a lady approximately 28-32 by my guess. Great tits, goddamn. Big booty, firm, great for grabbing. Anyway, she washes, I wash, she starts sucking BBBJ for "propina que quieras", yeah, we'll see where that ends up. Does a great job, lots of tongue, good enthusiasm. She gets on and rides cowgirl like a maniac, then wants me to pound her missionary, then from behind. All good till "en cuatro" at which point, despite the quick washing, she has a smelly ass / pussy. I'm good and hard, so it doesn't affect me, but it was a close one as to whether it'd drop off or not. Got her positioned to where the fan was behind us, and went to town. After about 10 minutes though, she asks me to eat it and I say, "Nope, I'm done, thanks. " And paid her and left.

Another example of when you have a truly off the charts mongering experience, the next one probably has zero chance of living up to it. Back to the hotel for one of my only non-vampire hours nights of the trip, meaning to sleep before 4-5 AM.

Finally, Plaza Botero Monday – return flight delayed to late afternoon, so I realize I have at least 2 hours extra to kill, so I head downtown from Poblado. Not having a lot of time, I choose:

Paola – Venezolana, blanquita, pero no buena. We ought to label these girls "ilusiones" because they look good, smell good, pretty face, nice makeup, but when you get them to the room, it's all "I don't mount guys", "Don't touch my pussy", "I only allow en cuatro and missionario", blah, blah, blah. I pounded her missionary for 5 minutes while she seriously just stared at the ceiling like a dead fish, and then from behind for about 10 minutes while watching her tits swing in the mirror to my left. Not bad, but her terrible attitude and lack of enthusiasm meant I finished early. Without finishing. No worries, back outside and I run into one that I'the seen the last 2-3 days and had on my list, a very pretty negrita called:

Laurena – negrita bonita why muy buena. A reversal of the other situation, when you have just had a bad mongering experience, the odds seem to be good that the next one will be good. This girl has a pretty face, braces (of course), probably mid to late 20's, long straight black hair, great smile and is a true hourglass figure. Small waist, giant tits, big ass. Classic. Anyway, we get upstairs, $10 k for the room, $50 k to her (rojo hotel ladies seriously laughing now when I come in and shaking their heads, they're my friends now, buy them a panque since it's mid-late morning and they say they need a snack, sure thing), get to the room and there's 3 beds, 2 singles and a queen. So odd. I've never seen that layout before. We pick the queen size one, she goes and really washes, I wash, and we get going. It's cool in the room, since it's at the back of the hotel, so no real sweating from the action. She gives a spectacular bareback blowjob, with the popping sound like pulling out a lollipop when she pulls it out of her mouth, grinning. Love that shit! Does this for a good 10 minutes, just sucking and tonguing, licking ballsack, sucking balls, jesus, a true professional. I finally can't take it and say, "montame por favor! She puts the condom on and goes to town. Those huge tits swinging as she's bouncing up and down, a glorious sight. About 10 minutes of this and she's like, "pon me en cuatro". Of course en cuatro. No anal requests this time, but that's fine, her beautiful big black ass, perfect heart shape, firm, but with nice movement when pounding, yeah, all good. Pound away for about 7 minutes and she says, "duras mucho, has tendio sexo hoy?" and I say, "si, pero no me vine", she laughs and says, I'm going to make you come. I ask for her to mount me again, and with some awesome cowgirl slipnslide, plus massive titties in my mouth, I finally climax and am done for the trip.

All in all, great visit. Lleras girls are still prettier and generally higher quality than the Botero girls, but Botero has some gems, you just need to sit down, drink a beer, take in the scene, walk the plaza and see what's available. With a little patience, you can find something approaching a mid-range Lleras girl, but for only $50-100 k (depending on extras) and that's just so damn cheap compared to even the cheapest Lleras girl. If there were only decent hotels near Botero and anything approaching fine dining, I'd probably just stay there. But it's only 15-20 minute cab ride for $13-15 k that it's worth it to me to stay in a nice hotel by Lleras, have tons of dining options available, plus much nicer places for a cocktail in Provenza, then just run to Botero to get down and dirty for cheap.

Nomars777 – out!

[QUOTE=Nomars777;2873304]Sorry for these long reports...

Nomars777 out![/QUOTE]Great read. The man knows how to do Centro. Hats off for a detailed and accurate write up.

[QUOTE=Nomars777;2873304]Sorry for these long reports, but it really was a good trip and I want to provide good details, please skim through if you don't want to read the whole thing.

Botero Sunday / Monday Morning Days 4&5.

Flor. Negra MILF saw this one standing in front of one of the shoe / purse / phone case sellers, shading herself from the sun. Hot today! She tells me yeah, so hot, nobody's working, except me! I didn't get it at that moment, so I took a stroll around the plaza, past the museum, and when I got back. She was still standing there. This time, she had her shirt a lot more unbuttoned, reached in to adjust her bra and stroked her left tit for me, saying, "Vamos! I responded, "Vamos!" Went to La Zona Rosa, where she washed herself for a good while, I washed myself, and we got on the bed a little damp and proceeded to make it more damp! She did a fantastic oral, lots of tongue, great eye contact, and then she went to get on top. She said, "preservativo? I said, no, while laughing. She's laughing, then goes serious and says, "I'm good without one, if you are. " Yes, yes I am! She rode me, while I'm doing my best to hold out, she's telling me when you're about to come, let me know and you can shoot it anywhere on my body, just not the face. Ok, sounds great! Made it about 5 minutes, switched to doggy, went another 3-5 minutes, and pulled out finishing on her back. Great view, white cum on her black body. Love it! $50 k for the room and her, plus a $50 k tip for the bareback entertainment. Later bought her 3-4 beers at the Mexican restaurant, where she's good friends with pretty much everyone who works there, so the whole conversation was very lively, especially with the futbol match on.[/QUOTE]Excellent report Señor Nomars. A true centro street rat enjoying himself in the belly of the beast and reporting accurate information about his adventures. We need more guys like you on ISG. Thank you.

[QUOTE=Nomars777;2873304]......we got on the bed a little damp and proceeded to make it more damp......[/QUOTE]A damp bed could either be good or not so good. Good because the dampness was because it was recently washed and not dried fully or not so good because.....hope it was good for you.

On another note from your report you must speak good Spanish. Well done.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2873495]A damp bed could either be good or not so good. Good because the dampness was because it was recently washed and not dried fully or not so good because.....hope it was good for you.

On another note from your report you must speak good Spanish. Well done.[/QUOTE]You're right on with the first observation. We dried, but quickly, so a little damp from not being fully dried off. Get so damn sweaty there anyway in the late afternoon, it was going to be damp either way.

All I know is the cleaning ladies in those places work hard, they are always in there immediately after, stripping the sheet (s), setting up the room again, new towel, little soap package, toilet paper roll, etc. If I see them, I try to give them a $10 k tip or so, since it's better when the rooms are clean.

Since I didn't clarify in the posts, "Rojo Hotel" is Hotel Botero Real, the 3rd or 4th picture on Google for the hotel shows the exterior. It really is much nicer, cleaner and unbelievably, cheaper, than La Zona Rosa Hotel, which seems hit or miss on cleanliness.

Thanks on the Spanish. It is of giant assistance in chatting with the girls. Really helps to establish a connection that is much deeper and clarifies those who are genuine from those who are not. Generally, but not always.

Your reports warm my Centro rat heart.

[QUOTE=Nomars777;2873519]You're right on with the first observation. We dried, but quickly, so a little damp from not being fully dried off. Get so damn sweaty there anyway in the late afternoon, it was going to be damp either way.

All I know is the cleaning ladies in those places work hard, they are always in there immediately after, stripping the sheet (s), setting up the room again, new towel, little soap package, toilet paper roll, etc. If I see them, I try to give them a $10 k tip or so, since it's better when the rooms are clean.

Since I didn't clarify in the posts, "Rojo Hotel" is Hotel Botero Real, the 3rd or 4th picture on Google for the hotel shows the exterior. It really is much nicer, cleaner and unbelievably, cheaper, than La Zona Rosa Hotel, which seems hit or miss on cleanliness.

Thanks on the Spanish. It is of giant assistance in chatting with the girls. Really helps to establish a connection that is much deeper and clarifies those who are genuine from those who are not. Generally, but not always.[/QUOTE]

I have just returned from a two week vacation in Medellin. I am an American, divorced, 63 years old, not bad looking for that age, zero knowledge of Spanish and on a budget. I happened to be quite attracted to young Spanish women. I am a big user of Google translate.

I arrived the night of Sunday November 13.

On Monday night Juliana came over. 19 years old. I found her through Colombian Cupid. For some reason I thought Colombian Cupid would be the perfect place to meet semi-pros. I would say half the girls on the site are very open to play for pay. My expectation was that Juliana and I would spend the entire two weeks together. We had spent three weeks chatting online including two video chats. We exchanged many photos. However in person she showed no attraction to me. She was on Facebook non-stop. Even while we were* in bed together she was watching youtube music videos. I can do whatever I want to her but without much interest from her. I could have bought a plastic doll. Plus she was overweight even though in her photos she was slim. After spending 24 hours with her, and having unprotected vaginal sex once, I kicked her out. And I had to spend two hours arguing with her because she was begging for another $100 to pay her rent. Total cost: $600. (I was sending her money prior to arriving in Colombia.).

Tuesday night Yennifer came over. 19 years old. I met her through Colombian Cupid. Passionate, but she requires a condom for vaginal intercourse and she is chubby although in her photos she is slim. She probably used photos which were a few years old. $150 and no ejaculation.

Saturday night November 18 Manu Gomez age 23 came over for an hour. I met her through Colombian Cupid. She was very passionate, she seemed to really want to get fucked right now this minute, and somewhat attractive however she has terrible pregnancy stretch marks. We had sex without a condom and it cost about $100.

Sunday night Silvanaa Arenass came over. I met her through Colombian Cupid. She is a little fat. I paid her about $140. She stayed for an hour. We gave each other oral sex and I masturbated on her.

Monday night I met Valentina Gomez. She is the sister of Manu Gomez. Age 24. She was more attractive than her sister, however still a little out of shape and she was on her period, which she didn't tell me in advance. She showed me the bleeding. She would not remove her underpants. I paid her about $170.

Tuesday night Felina came over. I picked her up in Parque lleras. She was very young, fairly attractive however she required a condom for oral sex, vaginal sex and even to touch my penis. We undressed, sat on the bed and I rubbed her pussy. She was probably there for about 45 minutes. Cost about $140.

I decided to try the brothels.

So on Wednesday November 21 at 4:00 pm, I arrived at.

[URL]https://catalogoangeles.********.com/?m=1[/URL]

Cra. 81 #42 52, Laureles. Estadio, Medellin, Laureles, Medellin, Antioquia Colombia apartment 202 +57 32xxxx183.

I chose Samantha. She is 19, has the body of a Playboy centerfold (all natural) and a very friendly and very passionate attitude. Her face is pretty but not beautiful. In total (considering attitude and beauty combined) I would give her a 9 out of 10. Cost for sex with uncovered blowjob: $65 per hour.

I spent an hour with her on Wednesday, three hours Thursday, two and half hours on Friday, three hours on Sunday and three hours on Monday. Obviously I cannot read her mind however I am convinced that she really liked having sex with me.

We had sex and also watched a few movies together on my laptop: Beautiful, Shallow Hal, Source Code and Johnny English all with Spanish subtitles while cuddling nude.

Since 1991, she is the most beautiful woman who I have had sex with and it was probably the best sex of my life. So the hours which I spent with Samatha saved the trip and made it worthwhile.

I'm attaching the photo of her ad from the brothel website however it really does not do her justice.

Monday night I was on the plane home.

I think that this is the smart thing to do in Medellin. Unless your Spanish is at least intermediate, or you're young and good looking or rich, which will broaden your options, don't waste time with street girls or web sites including Facebook, Colombian Cupid or Seeking.

Any online photos and even video chats are inaccurate. You can't trust them. Also it's impossible to get a good sense of the girl's attitude online. Plus she'll over charge you. And if you have some snacks or beverages in your apartment, kiss those goodbye.

GO TO THE BROTHELS.

There are very hundreds of beautiful and affordable girls there. You can see them nearly nude in person before you pick. The price is fixed by the madam. You may need to try a few out before you find the right one but you will find her. These are a few which I have heard of besides the one I went to.

[URL]https://ellaserotic.com[/URL]

There are two branches, one in the La America neighborhood and one in LOS Colores.

[URL]https://chicasenergy.com/[/URL]

Carrera 74 #49-101, Laureles. Estadio, Medellin, Colombia.

[URL]https://tantramedellin.com/[/URL]

Carrera 80 No 44 be - 139, Medellin Colombia.

Zandaly Masajes.

Cra. 47 #57 a-34, La Candelaria, Medellin, La Candelaria, Medellin, Antioquia, Colombia.

Masajes Aventura.

Cra. 55 #61 a-30, La Candelaria, Medellin, La Candelaria, Medellin, Antioquia, Colombia.

Also google "Salones de Masajes Erticos Medellin" for dozens of results.

I recommend taking Uber everywhere. It costs $5 or something. It's so much easier and more convenient than public transportation. Also being inside an Uber you will probably not get mugged, gunned down or pickpocketed.

Also, something else which was a pleasant surprise: no prescriptions. I take anti-anxiety medication which is a controlled substance in the rest of the world as well as a few other prescription medications and of course viagra. No prescription, no problem. Just buy whatever you want. At least this was my experience with pharmacies in the El Poblado area.

So this was my very limited adventure in Medellin and this is my advice. If anyone has any additional suggestions or strategies, I would love to hear about them for the next time. And I'm sorry, I am old and lazy and I don't think I'm going to learn Spanish. I'm a Google translate man.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2873595]Your reports warm my Centro rat heart.[/QUOTE]I'm glad to hear it! I really do love sitting down, having a beer, watch the girls walk by and try to give you the "raised eyebrow / head tilt. Come and buy me" look. It makes it easier to evaluate from many angles, over a few minutes and to see if any of them are going to be good. I'd say talking to them in person gives me about a 70% chance that they won't suck. It doesn't always work, especially if I make a hasty decision, such as with my 2nd to last one on Monday morning, Paola la no buena Venezolana, but if I take my time, it's probably an 80% chance my time with the chica will be good.

Love el centro!

You and I were there at the same time. I looked to see if you had private messaging enabled, as I was going to buy you a beer, but it wasn't working. Maybe next time.

Either way, you enjoyed yourself, which is really all that matters. I don't really think there's only ONE way to do Medellin, for anyone, it's really the way that works best for you and your situation.

Don't sell yourself short on Espanol, start with Duolingo or Babbel or other app-based language learning, then join a local language exchange group on Meetup or similar. Then go and practice. The basics will come quickly, with more practice you'll be better at more intermediate topics and the locals will love you for that. A little more time and you'll be having really good conversations and they'll love you even more. Be patient and you can definitely learn it.

One other benefit of language learning, even as an older person, is that it stimulates the creation of more and different synapse connections, which strengthens more and different parts of your brain. Good for keeping old-age related mental problems away!

Best of luck!

[QUOTE=TexasPistol;2873760]I think that this is the smart thing to do in Medellin. Unless your Spanish is at least intermediate, or you're young and good looking or rich, which will broaden your options, don't waste time with street girls or web sites including Facebook, Colombian Cupid or Seeking. *.

Any online photos and even video chats are inaccurate. You can't trust them. Also it's impossible to get a good sense of the girl's attitude online. Plus she'll over charge you. And if you have some snacks or beverages in your apartment, kiss those goodbye.

GO TO THE BROTHELS.

There are very hundreds of young, beautiful and affordable girls there. You can see them nearly nude in person before you pick. The price is fixed by the madam. You may need to try a few out before you find the right one but you will find her. These are a few which I have heard of besides the one I went to.

[URL]https://ellaserotic.com[/URL]

There are two branches, one in the La America neighborhood and one in LOS Colores.

[URL]https://chicasenergy.com/[/URL]*.

Carrera 74 #49-101, Laureles. Estadio, Medellin, Colombia.

[URL]https://tantramedellin.com/[/URL]*.

Carrera 80 No 44 be - 139, Medellin Colombia.

Zandaly Masajes.

Cra. 47 #57 a-34, La Candelaria, Medelland, La Candelaria, Medelland, Antioquia, Colombia..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TexasPistol;2873760]... If anyone has any additional suggestions or strategies, I would love to hear about them for the next time. And I'm sorry, I am old and lazy and I don't think I'm going to learn Spanish. I'm a Google translate man.[/QUOTE]The freelancer route needs a monger with some experience with handling local woman, it's not point and click, not only the OP overpaid horribly (from the description these are 10 $-30 $ women), he got the bad service for it and bad looking women. New with no Spanish = just go to casas, or the Mansion. Seems like not much RTFF has been done here in any case so hard to feel sorry for the OP. At least these online randos didn't drug the OP, so there's a silver lining.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2873189]Be careful to wear the correct football shirt for the locale you are visiting or you may be attacked for a different reason.[/QUOTE]I'm a Nacional fan. What neighborhoods like Medellin?

Nacional (green) or Medellin (red) is OK. You'll get a bit of good natured stick if you wear Medellin Jersey but nothing dangerous. I don't think the "clasico" Medellin / Nacional game will happen again before next year. Things get messy around and in the stadium when those teams meet. Nacional jerseys get safe and free passage citywide.

[QUOTE=Vern2020;2873871]I'm a Nacional fan. What neighborhoods like Medellin?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TexasPistol;2873760]I have just returned from a two week vacation in Medellin. I am an American, divorced, 63 years old, not bad looking for that age, zero knowledge of Spanish and on a budget. ... If anyone has any additional suggestions or strategies, I would love to hear about them for the next time.[/QUOTE]You asked, so here's a few suggestions. You paid at least double of what you should have paid. Never pay with US dollars. I don't think there is a merchant in Medellin that will accept USD. I use Facebook for almost all my contacts. I pay 250 mil or less for the chica. That includes taxi fare. I usually spend about an hour with the chica. We never discuss amount of time. If one quotes me a price by the hour, I drop her. You can get a much better view of the chica on Facebook, and almost all the recent photos posted were taken recently. Be aware that if the only body pictures are looking down from above her head, she is probably overweight. You can't see the size of her from that angle. If she only posts photos of her upper body, from the breasts up, she is probably overweight.

There are also websites with chicas. Mileroticos, Catadorcolombia, and Photoprepagos are just a few. I've never used them, but I heard many of the chicas use photos that have been enhanced. Those sites list prices also.

Good luck with your next visit and save some money.

[QUOTE=TexasPistol;2873760]I kicked her out. And I had to spend two hours arguing with her because she was begging for another $100 to pay her rent. Total cost: $600. (I was sending her money prior to arriving in Colombia.).[/QUOTE]You get rid of a girl when she is out of your hotel room and outside the hotel. Say what needs said and walk away 10 minutes maximum. Two hours arguing on your vacation was very stupid. You doing what you did and paying what you paid is what gets guys killed because you showed her stupidity, weakness, and lots of money! Glad you are a quick learner. Sounds as if the guy that came here and the guy that left here were two different guys.

Que pena contigo! I almost wept after reading your experience with chicas. First of all, I would avoid Colombian Cupid, Tinder, and Seeking. Stick with FB. The prices you paid for overweight, unenthusiastic girls made me sad. Trust me. You can find some quality chicas on FB at a very fair price (another poster mentioned 250 mil, including taxi, which should work. Don't give up. Just change your approach. Eventually you can tape into primas and amigas of chicas who are good. You should expect GFE, BBBJ at a minimum. I go raw with FB chicas who are not pros (if they are pros they'll insist on condom anyway and I am happy to oblige). Anal is not overly common, but ass play works with man, especially once they feel how good it is if you are gentle with them. You won't always get roses, but you had a pretty bad streak on that trip. Karma hopefully says it's much better next time.

[QUOTE=TexasPistol;2873760]I have just returned from a two week vacation in Medellin. I am an American, divorced, 63 years old, not bad looking for that age, zero knowledge of Spanish and on a budget. I happened to be quite attracted to young Spanish women. I am a big user of Google translate.

I arrived the night of Sunday November 13.

On Monday night Juliana came over. 19 years old. I found her through Colombian Cupid. For some reason I thought Colombian Cupid would be the perfect place to meet semi-pros. I would say half the girls on the site are very open to play for pay. My expectation was that Juliana and I would spend the entire two weeks together. We had spent three weeks chatting online including two video chats. We exchanged many photos. However in person she showed no attraction to me. She was on Facebook non-stop. Even while we were* in bed together she was watching youtube music videos. I can do whatever I want to her but without much interest from her. I could have bought a plastic doll. Plus she was overweight even though in her photos she was slim. After spending 24 hours with her, and having unprotected vaginal sex once, I kicked her out. And I had to spend two hours arguing with her because she was begging for another $100 to pay her rent. Total cost: $600. (I was sending her money prior to arriving in Colombia.).

Tuesday night Yennifer came over. 19 years old. I met her through Colombian Cupid. Passionate, but she requires a condom for vaginal intercourse and she is chubby although in her photos she is slim. She probably used photos which were a few years old. $150 and no ejaculation.

Saturday night November 18 Manu Gomez age 23 came over for an hour. I met her through Colombian Cupid. She was very passionate, she seemed to really want to get fucked right now this minute, and somewhat attractive however she has terrible pregnancy stretch marks. We had sex without a condom and it cost about $100.

Sunday night Silvanaa Arenass came over. I met her through Colombian Cupid. She is a little fat. I paid her about $140. She stayed for an hour. We gave each other oral sex and I masturbated on her.

Monday night I met Valentina Gomez. She is the sister of Manu Gomez. Age 24. She was more attractive than her sister, however still a little out of shape and she was on her period, which she didn't tell me in advance. She showed me the bleeding. She would not remove her underpants. I paid her about $170.

Tuesday night Felina came over. I picked her up in Parque lleras. She was very young, fairly attractive however she required a condom for oral sex, vaginal sex and even to touch my penis. We undressed, sat on the bed and I rubbed her pussy. She was probably there for about 45 minutes. Cost about $140.

.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2873929]Que pena contigo! I almost wept after reading your experience with chicas. First of all, I would avoid Colombian Cupid, Tinder, and Seeking. Stick with FB.[/QUOTE]Before going I spent months on FB trying to arrange meetings with girls in Medellin and I got a lot of girls trying to sell "content" and few if any who were willing to do video chats to verify their appearance. I felt very suspicious that I was being scammed by some fat old men who were grabbing porn off the web from who knows where and who were trying to sell it to me for hundreds of dollars. Or it might have been real girls trying to sell porn but not actually willing to meet in person. And incidentally I have used FB for years for normal personal things so I am very familiar with it. I created a new profile specifically for Medellin girls. I couldn't find anyone who sounded legitimate to me.

Also incidentally when I referred to prices in dollars, I just did that to make it more easily understandable. I only actually used pesos worth about that many dollars. The brothel took Visa.

About getting drugged by girls who popped in from Colombian Cupid, the girls were all very decent. They probably cheated me a little here and there like saying that the taxi cost them 40,000 pesos when it was really 15,000 but nothing terrible happened. On the street one night my phone was pickpocketed however after having heard all the stories about stolen phones in Medellin, I brought a really junky old phone, cracked screen, one camera was broken, etc. I think he did me a favor.

Personally, I don't know why the brothels don't get more attention, especially if your Spanish or appearance isn't good enough to charm the beauties in Parque lleras and get special good deals from them.

[QUOTE=TexasPistol;2873760]We had sex and also watched a few movies together on my laptop: Beautiful, Shallow Hal, Source Code and Johnny English all with Spanish subtitles while cuddling nude.

Since 1991, she is the most beautiful woman who I have had sex with and it was probably the best sex of my life. So the hours which I spent with Samatha saved the trip and made it worthwhile..[/QUOTE]The journey is worth the price we pay. Especially when the memories are of encounters like you have described.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2873929]Anal is not overly common, but ass play works with man, especially once they feel how good it is if you are gentle with them. [/QUOTE]Being gentle with a man during assplay is good advice (I think) though I'd still suggest OP to give women another chance (even after such bad experiences.).

[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2874005]The journey is worth the price we pay. Especially when the memories are of encounters like you have described.[/QUOTE]For most new visitors to Medellin, you are going to make mistakes and you probably won't find your best girls but you learn from your mistakes and it tends to get better with future trips. Think of the first trip as the exploration trip where you are learning things without the expectation that things will go great. Some guys do get lucky but most have a mixed trip of good girls and bad girls. With additional trips, you can build up your list of good girls to see along with new girls to try out. You can visit Medellin with no Spanish but it would be better if you could learn just a little bit of Spanish. If you visit for the first time and you didn't get drugged or robbed or both, consider that a successful trip. Being ripped off or overpaying for things is not unusual for newcomers as you start learning the prices of things.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2873875]Nacional (green) or Medellin (red) is OK. You'll get a bit of good natured stick if you wear Medellin Jersey but nothing dangerous. I don't think the "clasico" Medellin / Nacional game will happen again before next year. Things get messy around and in the stadium when those teams meet. Nacional jerseys get safe and free passage citywide.[/QUOTE]Free advice. Do not wear a Colombian football shirt in Panama. You're welcome.

[QUOTE=TexasPistol;2873946]Before going I spent months on FB trying to arrange meetings with girls in Medellin and I got a lot of girls trying to sell "content" and few if any who were willing to do video chats to verify their appearance. I felt very suspicious that I was being scammed by some fat old men who were grabbing porn off the web from who knows where and who were trying to sell it to me for hundreds of dollars. Or it might have been real girls trying to sell porn but not actually willing to meet in person.[/QUOTE]That begs the question as to why you sent money to the chick that would eventually treat you like shit? I am in the camp of you definitely did not read this forum before your undertakings. One cardinal rule is not to send money. But I guess you learned that first hand by reinventing the wheel. Another one is why are you trying to arrange meetings months before you go there? You do not do that with hookers. You arrange the meeting when you are there and ready. Would you have called the brothel where Samantha works and told them you will be there in March? So why do it with the girls on facebook?

Here is a scammer video that is funny as fuck for you guys that like to send money.

[URL]https://worldstar.com/videos/wshhsIylg8o55t9LFK48/this-is-getting-out-of-hand-person-was-next-level-catfishing-an-old-man[/URL]

P.S. There is already more porn than a person can handle in a lifetime free on the internet. No need to buy somebody's content.

[QUOTE=TexasPistol;2873946]Before going I spent months on FB trying to arrange meetings with girls in Medellin and I got a lot of girls trying to sell "content" and few if any who were willing to do video chats to verify their appearance. ....

Personally, I don't know why the brothels don't get more attention, especially if your Spanish or appearance isn't good enough to charm the beauties in Parque lleras and get special good deals from them.[/QUOTE]You don't need to arrange anything ahead of the time. You shouldn't anyway because you think the girl think like you and will honor their word or show up as expected.

The easier approach is to let girl know about 2 weeks in advance you will be in Medellin and get WhatsApp numbers. You can start chatting at this point if you want. I personally only do it after I have arrived. Most girls I contacted this month have no problem showing up the same day or the next day that I contacted them. My shortest record is that I made contact with one at 9 PM and she showed up at my apartment at 11 PM. She is 162 cm tall and 46 kg. She even asked me later what did II think about the session with her. I told her BBBJ can be better and she said she would keep that in mind the next time. You will have a better chance of doing video call if you are already in Medellin.

Think this way, you can spend the same amount of money on 3 times the number of girls you have met. It's a numbers game. You will have a better chance finding someone you like if you can met more. Just pay them to go away and you don't even need to fuck them. I stayed here longer so I have more leverage. If the girl wants higher price, I just told her what my offer is. Sometimes they will change their mind. I had one this month, she changed her mind two days later, and now is offering her friend for trio like other girls and offered to do everything I asked them to do. For those from dating sites, you can just ask them out for a coffee or something before committing to price and sex if you want to check out the appearance.

Brothels do get attention but it is not usually for people who want outcall. The service tends to be limited too. You just haven't been able to make the right connection with other approaches but you will find it if you tried it enough times.

You can be robbed in a car. Uber is safer but you can still be robbed in various ways.

I think you should consider learning as a process. It doesn't have to reach the final goal to be useful. If you never start, then you are always stuck in the same place. Similarly, your next trip is going to build on top of this experience but don't limit yourself to brothels. It's not the best option for what you said you prefer.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2873882]You asked, so here's a few suggestions. You paid at least double of what you should have paid. Never pay with US dollars. I don't think there is a merchant in Medellin that will accept USD. I use Facebook for almost all my contacts. I pay 250 mil or less for the chica. That includes taxi fare. I usually spend about an hour with the chica. We never discuss amount of time. If one quotes me a price by the hour, I drop her. You can get a much better view of the chica on Facebook, and almost all the recent photos posted were taken recently. Be aware that if the only body pictures are looking down from above her head, she is probably overweight. You can't see the size of her from that angle. If she only posts photos of her upper body, from the breasts up, she is probably overweight.

There are also websites with chicas. Mileroticos, Catadorcolombia, and Photoprepagos are just a few. I've never used them, but I heard many of the chicas use photos that have been enhanced. Those sites list prices also.

Good luck with your next visit and save some money.[/QUOTE]I assume you negotiate with the FB girls to get to your 250 price. What are they typically asking for to begin with? How do your negotiations usually go?

TexaxPistol first time report is a very good one, and it takes guts to do so. Sure, this forum has all the info and advice from experienced users, but often the newbie is lured away by websites like Cupid, Seeking, where photos and chats seem great, and way easier and safer than picking up girls from the street, especially when one does not speak the language. He is one of many doing this daily, before the first time in Colombia. The girls on the online sites are great at social engineering, telling the guys all the things they want to hear. Had a girl I met through Cupid, a stunner, met her and she was so so in bed, but good as company. Once she contacted me about being very sick, needing antibiotics and no money, sent pictures of herself crying. I sent some money via WU, as I knew her already. Next day, the working girl was in Cancun with another guy, posting photos on IG. She also had used my tablet before and left history. She was on all online dating sites know to mankind, from arab dating to euro, asian dating, bla bla, all! She also was going to youtube to watch videos on how to trap men to feel bad about them and take care of them.

Advice here is don't trust anything they say, don't send money, doubt the photos, and don't pay for trips to meet you for first time. You are stuck as you can't really kick her out since she doesn't live here and has no money, and it will ruin your vacation (experience speaking here).

All else said, if you must learn by yourself, practice the "fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me".

She wanted this in USD by the way.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2874092]That begs the question as to why you sent money to the chick that would eventually treat you like shit? I am in the camp of you definitely did not read this forum before your undertakings. One cardinal rule is not to send money. But I guess you learned that first hand by reinventing the wheel. Another one is why are you trying to arrange meetings months before you go there? You do not do that with hookers. You arrange the meeting when you are there and ready. Would you have called the brothel where Samantha works and told them you will be there in March? So why do it with the girls on facebook?[/QUOTE]Now I definitely see that I was being very naive and I threw away a lot of money. I hope that all that money went to help some sick grandmothers out there in slums someplace.

As of now this is my philosophy:

Don't bother with meeting anyone on the Internet. Instead go to airbnb. Book a decent apartment maybe in Laureles, which is nice but less expensive than El Poblado. After arriving in said apartment open up the Uber app and put in the address of one of the numerous brothels. In 20 or 30 minutes you're there, after a comfortable car ride and maybe $5 on the credit card. You are introduced to a half dozen almost nude young girls. If you see one you who you like and chances are you will then hand over the credit card and pay $65 for an hour including uncovered oral. Or worse case Uber over to the next brothel. Even if you are charged an $8 presentation fee although you chose no one, I don't think that's going to bankrupt anyone. I think that they do that just to keep out pests who are not seriously looking for sex and who are just visiting brothels for presentations.

What could possibly be simpler, easier or more affordable anywhere in the world? (I haven't yet tried Thailand or the Philippines however I personally prefer Latinas over Asians.).

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2873882] I use Facebook for almost all my contacts. I pay 250 mil or less for the chica. That includes taxi fare. I usually spend about an hour with the chica. We never discuss amount of time. If one quotes me a price by the hour, I drop her. You can get a much better view of the chica on Facebook, and almost all the recent photos posted were taken recently.[/QUOTE]Are the girls or some of the girls you use obvious pros (for example selling photo and video content)? For the semi-pros (ones that look kinda normal), do you just come out and asked them up front if the they escort or whatever on the side or do you build up a rapport with them over time and feel them out, before you come out and ask them?

[QUOTE=CeeJay1;2874189]Are the girls or some of the girls you use obvious pros (for example selling photo and video content)? For the semi-pros (ones that look kinda normal), do you just come out and asked them up front if the they escort or whatever on the side or do you build up a rapport with them over time and feel them out, before you come out and ask them?[/QUOTE]Medellin is unique in that you can use FB like a escort / hookup service. Once you friend a guy or girl with lots of fairly sexy looking Amigas it's like a pyramid scheme and you hook onto a hundred of their friends. Just say "250 mas taxi" or whatever you are offering and they will say yes or no or come back with a negotiation figure. It's really like shooting fish in a barrel. No pretense at all.

[QUOTE=CeeJay1;2874189]Are the girls or some of the girls you use obvious pros (for example selling photo and video content)? For the semi-pros (ones that look kinda normal), do you just come out and asked them up front if the they escort or whatever on the side or do you build up a rapport with them over time and feel them out, before you come out and ask them?[/QUOTE]I define a pro as someone who does P4P full time and has no other activities or sources of income. I have some Facebook friends who were pros when I met them, and some who became pros after I met them. Most of my FB friends are not what I define as pros.

I'm an old guy. When I become friends with an early 20's chica, I don't need to ask if she's P4P. Why else would see want to befriend me? If I'm interested, within the first 5 messages, I tell her I want to see her. The answer is almost always positive. I can only think of three chicas, out of more than 300, who asked why I want to see her. I tell her I want to have sex with her. Two have said they are not P4P. No one has gotten upset when I tell her what I want.

There are many chicas in Medellin who accept the opportunity to earn some quick money. They don't consider sex, even with strangers, as immoral. I've had sex with waitresses, bartenders, store clerks, and friends of causal friends who I haven't had sex with.

[QUOTE=TexasPistol;2874182]Now I definitely see that I was being very naive and I threw away a lot of money. I hope that all that money went to help some sick grandmothers out there in slums someplace.

As of now this is my philosophy:

Don't bother with meeting anyone on the Internet. Instead go to airbnb. Book a decent apartment maybe in Laureles, which is nice but less expensive than El Poblado. After arriving in said apartment open up the Uber app and put in the address of one of the numerous brothels. In 20 or 30 minutes you're there, after a comfortable car ride and maybe $5 on the credit card. You are introduced to a half dozen almost nude young girls. If you see one you who you like and chances are you will then hand over the credit card and pay $65 for an hour including uncovered oral. Or worse case Uber over to the next brothel. Even if you are charged an $8 presentation fee although you chose no one, I don't think that's going to bankrupt anyone. I think that they do that just to keep out pests who are not seriously looking for sex and who are just visiting brothels for presentations.

What could possibly be simpler, easier or more affordable anywhere in the world? (I haven't yet tried Thailand or the Philippines however I personally prefer Latinas over Asians.).[/QUOTE]With all due respect you probably should hold off coming to Medellin for a year and use that time to really read the forum. I'm not talking about the last trip and not knowing the fair market price of your entertainment. That is an independant judgement you or anyone else would make. But just reading your new plan. I would point out that the best way to enjoy your trip here is to go to an ATM and pull cash. Put your credit card in the safe. Don't pay for the brothel with your credit card that is just nuts. You pay with cash just like every Colombian person does. Now I can understand paying your AirBnB with a credit card but seriously pay for everything else in cash.

[QUOTE=TexasPistol;2874182]put in the address of one of the numerous brothels. In 20 or 30 minutes you're there, after a comfortable car ride and maybe $5 on the credit card. You are introduced to a half dozen almost nude young girls. If you see one you who you like[/QUOTE]Do not forget to get her contact info so she can come over when she has time off.

[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2874132]I assume you negotiate with the FB girls to get to your 250 price. What are they typically asking for to begin with? How do your negotiations usually go?[/QUOTE]They first agree to see me. Then I ask them 200 mil plus taxi. That's usually the first mention of money. Some agree and some ask for more. For those who ask for more, I offer 250 including taxi. If they don't agree, I thank them for considering visiting me. Then I move on.

For those who initiate the talk about money, my procedure is the same. Those who start with a price, it's usually 300 to 350 mil.

[QUOTE=TexasPistol;2874182]...What could possibly be simpler, easier or more affordable anywhere in the world? (I haven't yet tried Thailand or the Philippines however I personally prefer Latinas over Asians.).[/QUOTE]Brazil is easier and much better service on average simply based on your description but the price will depend on where you go.

It is only easier if you always start from the same starting point. At this time of year, many mongers who frequent Medellin probably will tell you they got whatsapp messages everyday from girls asking for a date. You pick one and they show up at your door. I would say it is easier than what you describe. Most mongers don't deal with clock watcher like FL described so it is cheaper than casas at the comfort of your own apartment. One thing about Medellin is that most working girls have no job. As a result, they are going to stick around longer if they like you or your place.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2874231]They first agree to see me. Then I ask them 200 mil plus taxi. That's usually the first mention of money. Some agree and some ask for more. For those who ask for more, I offer 250 including taxi. If they don't agree, I thank them for considering visiting me. Then I move on.

For those who initiate the talk about money, my procedure is the same. Those who start with a price, it's usually 300 to 350 mil.[/QUOTE]200 mil plus taxi is usually 250 mil in total because transport is usually 25 mil each way for the girls. For girls who ask for more, 250 including taxi is basically the same offer, 250 mil minus 50 mil transport roundtrip. You're not really offering more at all.

Oops. Should have proofed my original post better. I meant to write "many" not "man".

[QUOTE=JohnnieCash;2874023]Being gentle with a man during assplay is good advice (I think) though I'd still suggest OP to give women another chance (even after such bad experiences.).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=IntBond0;2874157]She wanted this in USD by the way.[/QUOTE]Fixing error in post, pictures added (she wanted this in usd, because she's spent time in the states).

[QUOTE=Nounce;2874232]Brazil is easier and much better service on average simply based on your description but the price will depend on where you go.[/QUOTE]I have been looking at Sao Paulo as a location for my next adventure. However I get the impression that prices for sex are about 50% higher than Medellin. Sao Paulo seems to be a more affluent city in general compared to Medellin, for example comparing average salaries of bank tellers and youth unemployment rates.

That makes me wonder if I'm not really getting more bang for my buck, so to speak, in Medellin.

About better service, I've tried some Brazilian women in Europe and I have no complaints however at least in my small sampling I didn't feel that they were more passionate than Colombians. All members of the Iberian species seem to be pretty passionate on average.

[QUOTE=IntBond0;2874268]Fixing error in post, pictures added (she wanted this in usd, because she's spent time in the states).[/QUOTE]This obviously isn't a Colombiana you are corresponding with.

[QUOTE=TexasPistol;2874339]I have been looking at Sao Paulo as a location for my next adventure. However I get the impression that prices for sex are about 50% higher than Medellin. Sao Paulo seems to be a more affluent city in general compared to Medellin, for example comparing average salaries of bank tellers and youth unemployment rates.

That makes me wonder if I'm not really getting more bang for my buck, so to speak, in Medellin.

About better service, I've tried some Brazilian women in Europe and I have no complaints however at least in my small sampling I didn't feel that they were more passionate than Colombians. All members of the Iberian species seem to be pretty passionate on average.[/QUOTE]We are talking about brothels and casas based on your post.

See the attached picture for the promotional price for a trio for an hour. This one is mid range. You can calculate the cost using the exchange rate 5 to 1 USD. The girl will bring clean sheet and towel to the room with A / see and Listerine. I would say this level of amenities is better. You can just guess and adjust for price increase a year later to come to a number and compare to what you get in Medellin. That will show you how overpriced Medellin is in that specific price range.

The other pictures are just showing the daily line up updates to show the "easy" part. I pick this because it does not show the face. I don't need to visit the casa to know what is in store. I can just reserve on WhatsApp if I want.

The majority of SP mongers use this as a 2nd or 3rd option, and mainly for day time. The primary is the club scene which can easily cost hundreds a night.


[QUOTE=TexasPistol;2874339]...About better service, I've tried some Brazilian women in Europe and I have no complaints however at least in my small sampling I didn't feel that they were more passionate than Colombians. All members of the Iberian species seem to be pretty passionate on average.[/QUOTE]

Keep in mind , the context is casas, you are not getting the same level of service in Medellin on average by default, I would say far from it. Medellin's strength is much larger quantity in a small city compared to SP. My guess is you still have better sex experience waiting for you in the future if you keep at it in either city

[QUOTE=MoonShot;2874236]200 mil plus taxi is usually 250 mil in total because transport is usually 25 mil each way for the girls. For girls who ask for more, 250 including taxi is basically the same offer, 250 mil minus 50 mil transport roundtrip. You're not really offering more at all.[/QUOTE]It depends on the locations but 30 mil will be a good estimate on average. The girl may opt for moto to keep more money too.

[QUOTE=IntBond0;2874268]Fixing error in post, pictures added (she wanted this in usd, because she's spent time in the states).[/QUOTE]You're paying the iMessage premium! Anytime a chick is using imessage instead of whatsapp tack on 15-20% of the price. Because A she has an iphone and be she knows how to use it and communcates with gringos often.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2874231]They first agree to see me. Then I ask them 200 mil plus taxi. That's usually the first mention of money. Some agree and some ask for more. For those who ask for more, I offer 250 including taxi. If they don't agree, I thank them for considering visiting me. Then I move on.

For those who initiate the talk about money, my procedure is the same. Those who start with a price, it's usually 300 to 350 mil.[/QUOTE]About what percentage of them decline your offer of 250?

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2874375]This obviously isn't a Colombiana you are corresponding with.[/QUOTE]A Colombian that lived in the states and is playing the high end escort role. Think she was deported.

30,000 is a lot. Bello to Poblado is a good trip benchmark. Unless it is surge pricing, bad weather, or very late at night 20,000 should cover that trip most of the time. The most effective way to avoid ride share cost discrepancies is to send the car yourself. That also gives you the extra benefit of not having to guess when the girl will arrive because you can track the trip real time.

You can also get the girl to share the trip details with you even if you don't send the car yourself. I always refuse requests from girls to pay taxistas. It's an individual decision; I just see no need or benefit in doing it.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2874390]It depends on the locations but 30 mil will be a good estimate on average. The girl may opt for moto to keep more money too.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2874375]This obviously isn't a Colombiana you are corresponding with.[/QUOTE]Nah. That is actually a Black American male that he is writing with. It reads like the same person is writing both parts of the conversation.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2874387]We are talking about brothels and casas based on your post. See the attached picture for the promotional price for a trio for an hour. This one is mid range. You can calculate the cost using the exchange rate 5 to 1 USD. [/QUOTE]Thank you for the information about brothel prices in Sao Paulo. Based on these reviews.

[URL]https://www.gp-guia.net/viewforum.php?f=8[/URL]

It looks like a typical brothel in Sao Paulo is about $40/ hour which seems to be about $25 lower than Medellin. Good to know.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2873929]Que pena contigo! I almost wept after reading your experience with chicas. First of all, I would avoid Colombian Cupid, Tinder, and Seeking. Stick with FB. .[/QUOTE]Seeking has been my go to. College girls bareback everything and I don't even have to ask. All those fb girls ran through asf. The pros I come across are pretty obvious through initial msgs usually want 350 K+ and everything condom, hell no. I imagine guys like this and countless others probably pay it when they see the hot pros and don't have a choice. I usually pay 250 k -350 k 2 pops.

My advice is if they come out with that amor' in every sentence bullshit. Instant pass. A few of my favoritas actually catch feelings which makes it awkward at times. but just play along, and milk it some more.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2874387]See the attached picture for the promotional price for a trio for an hour. This one is mid range. You can calculate the cost using the exchange rate 5 to 1 USD. [/QUOTE]Something else also occurred to me. Are the Sao Paulo brothel workers who are in the $40/ hour range more likely to be black, mulatto or 30+? I would prefer to go up to $65 in Medellin for a brothel worker who is white and college age.

Stumbled upon a hottie with great tits and ass in centro the other day.

50 mil she says and 20 la pieza.

Well, mor, that's fine but why 20? Are you trying to take advantage of me?

It's because I don't have a cedula.

Oh? And why not?

Because I'm 15.

Oh shit. Hold on. Are you serious?

Si mor en serio.

Wow. Awkward. Last closer look. Chao entonces.

Hanged out in the bar on the other side of the street to enjoy the views and see the other talent passing by and couldn't help but notice some motorbike riders stopping quite abruptly to take a look at her and locals queueing to talk to her. Hold on, is it legal or something? Googled it. As I thought, it's not legal even for Colombians, years in prison, but they don't care apparently.

FYI though 14 is the age of consent, it does not apply to prostitution, it's still 18. I'm not an American and only Colombian law is important to me. Don't call me a pedo either, she's been looking as womanly developed as they come, to which I guess her popularity with Colombians can attest to, since they do like them with some meat on, tetonas and culonas.

Anyway, be careful and always ask for a cedula, heard that Colombian prisons are not that comfortable. Not to mention gringos are always good target for an extorsion and I'm pretty sure they have cameras in that hotel she's been using. Wouldn't be totally surprised if there were even some inside the rooms.

[QUOTE=AdamWl;2874520]Stumbled upon a hottie with great tits and ass in centro the other day.

50 mil she says and 20 la pieza.

Well, mor, that's fine but why 20? Are you trying to take advantage of me?

It's because I don't have a cedula.

Oh? And why not?

Because I'm 15.

.[/QUOTE]I had a similar experience. This law, that prostitution is illegal before 18, was only enacted in 2009. I'm not clear how often Colombian authorities enforce it. And I really felt conflicted because the girl was really poor. This is her and her family's survival. However I firmly believe "If you can't do the time don't do the crime. ".

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2874446]30,000 is a lot. Bello to Poblado is a good trip benchmark. Unless it is surge pricing, bad weather, or very late at night 20,000 should cover that trip most of the time. The most effective way to avoid ride share cost discrepancies is to send the car yourself. That also gives you the extra benefit of not having to guess when the girl will arrive because you can track the trip real time.

You can also get the girl to share the trip details with you even if you don't send the car yourself. I always refuse requests from girls to pay taxistas. It's an individual decision; I just see no need or benefit in doing it.

.[/QUOTE]I often use Uber to send the girl home to Bello. For me, it is usually not 20 mil but often 25 mil or more. Sometimes it is close to 30 mil. In my experience, it is rarely 20 mil but then again, it depends on exactly where the girl is located, whether it is raining, etc. I always offer to pay the transport cost for girls.

[QUOTE=TexasPistol;2874507]Something else also occurred to me. Are the Sao Paulo brothel workers who are in the $40/ hour range more likely to be black, mulatto or 30+? I would prefer to go up to $65 in Medellin for a brothel worker who is white and college age.[/QUOTE]What you read is the discount price for foristas. A forista discount let you pay half hour rate for one hour session. You won't get that rate as a new customer.

Black is minority in the clinicas. There is a wide range of prices. GPG does not have review for higher price places. Medellin may win in look department in that price range but I have not been to and probably never will go to places in that price range in Medellin to draw any conclusion.

It is better to post question direct to SP thread.

[QUOTE=TexasPistol;2874507]Something else also occurred to me. Are the Sao Paulo brothel workers who are in the $40/ hour range more likely to be black, mulatto or 30+? I would prefer to go up to $65 in Medellin for a brothel worker who is white and college age.[/QUOTE]First of all quote your figures in COP because using USD is confusing. Anyways assuming an exchange rate of 4000 to 1 then your $65 would equal $260 k COP.

Now I am no expert on Casas (brothels) but I'm pretty sure they are not charging 260 k pesos. I believe there are some Casas in Centro that start out around 70 mil for half an hour and maybe like 120 mil-140 mil for an hour.

So 260 mil (or $65 as you are saying), even if you were paying for an hour, would still be about double what it should be. And Sao Paulo and Brazil as a whole is more expensive than Colombia and Medellin.

If you want value for your dollars (pesos) stay in Colombia but branch out. Bogota has a lot of casas in the chapinero area. Also I read there were some casas in Cali that charge 70 mil /120 mil. Also cheaper deals can be found in the eje cafetero region (Manizales, Pereira, and Armenia).

You need to do some more RTFF before you come back again. And never ever ever ever send money to anyone whether you are here or not that is an unforgivable mortal sin. I would have told that first puta to fuck me without a rubber for 100 mil pesos or else she can kick rocks and if she needed an extra 100 mil for her rent well then she better hurry up and go fuck some other parceros. Her chocha is her biggest asset.

-Gabacho.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2874467]Nah. That is actually a Black American male that he is writing with. It reads like the same person is writing both parts of the conversation.[/QUOTE]I thought the same thing. I have never seen a paisa or any Colombiana for that matter who wrote perfect English like that and used American lingo and abbreviations such as Lmao.

Even if it actually was a woman of Colombian decent whom he was messaging, I would still classify her as an American not a Colombian just because of how she is speaking.

It's like trying to say those third generation chicanos who don't speak any Spanish are Mexicans, they can say they are Mexican all they want but they aren't, they are Chicanos, or as the real Mexicans call them, pochos. You set them down en la ciudad de Mexico and they wouldn't know a gringa from a taco de canasta LOL.

[QUOTE=TexasPistol;2874612]I had a similar experience. This law, that prostitution is illegal before 18, was only enacted in 2009. I'm not clear how often Colombian authorities enforce it. And I really felt conflicted because the girl was really poor. This is her and her family's survival. However I firmly believe "If you can't do the time don't do the crime. ".[/QUOTE]And for people living in US, Canada, or many other countries the home laws are "extra territorial" meaning that under 18 with a prostitute is illegal in your home country no matter where in the world it happens. Several Canadians are in the pen because of being with underage workers in Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam, Thailand. Etc. So in reality the laws that are the strictest apply. Even if it were legal in Colombia you could be convicted in many of the home countries we come from.

Can anyone help me find an English speaking driver in MDE?

[QUOTE=MoonShot;2874631]I often use Uber to send the girl home to Bello. For me, it is usually not 20 mil but often 25 mil or more. Sometimes it is close to 30 mil. In my experience, it is rarely 20 mil but then again, it depends on exactly where the girl is located, whether it is raining, etc. I always offer to pay the transport cost for girls.[/QUOTE]Try indriver or didi and you may find it to be cheaper than Uber. Even Picap (if she isn't scared to ride a moto) would be even less probably about 15 k.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2874446]30,000 is a lot. Bello to Poblado is a good trip benchmark. Unless it is surge pricing, bad weather, or very late at night 20,000 should cover that trip most of the time. The most effective way to avoid ride share cost discrepancies is to send the car yourself. That also gives you the extra benefit of not having to guess when the girl will arrive because you can track the trip real time.

You can also get the girl to share the trip details with you even if you don't send the car yourself. I always refuse requests from girls to pay taxistas. It's an individual decision; I just see no need or benefit in doing it.

.[/QUOTE]How do you get the girls to share the trip details with you even if you don't send the car? All I ever get is a bunch of BS when asking where they are at when they are late as usual. I will start sending cars for all the ones who want me to pay for it.

[QUOTE=MoonShot;2874631]I often use Uber to send the girl home to Bello. For me, it is usually not 20 mil but often 25 mil or more. Sometimes it is close to 30 mil. In my experience, it is rarely 20 mil but then again, it depends on exactly where the girl is located, whether it is raining, etc. I always offer to pay the transport cost for girls.[/QUOTE]It's a give and take price negation. Obviously it won't work as well in your case, instead of 250 you might offer 270 to achieve similar effect.

[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2874704]How do you get the girls to share the trip details with you even if you don't send the car? All I ever get is a bunch of BS when asking where they are at when they are late as usual. I will start sending cars for all the ones who want me to pay for it.[/QUOTE]You can tell them to send you live location on WhatsApp. There are drawbacks in sending car. The girl may miss the pickup. Depending on where the girl lives, it may take forever to get a car. I ordered Uber for some girls, and I have encountered problems mentioned.

Are there any budget places to stay around Parque Lleras that are girl friendly, around 50 dollars a night or less?

I've read the forum and the places that I've found that are girl friendly, I. E Dix and Mansion are more than this. All I need is a clean room, wifi and a shower. Appreciate any suggestions.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2874712]You can tell them to send you live location on WhatsApp. There are drawbacks in sending car. The girl may miss the pickup. Depending on where the girl lives, it may take forever to get a car. I ordered Uber for some girls, and I have encountered problems mentioned.[/QUOTE]It works best to use Uber to send her home but not for picking up girls for the reasons stated. The girls are infamously late in getting ready to go so you can't depend on the girl actually getting into the Uber when it arrives.

I am starting to think that the all-inclusive deal is better. For example, instead of an offer of 200 mil plus taxi which is an unknown amount and could be more or less 25 mil each way, maybe 250 mil in total would be better and the girl can find the best deal in transport for herself. In the end, it is just a difference of $1 to $3 for transport. I don't sweat over such small amounts when I am on vacation. I mentioned that whenever I use Uber to send the girl back to Bello, it is usually around 25 mil one way.

I know that there is this suspicion that the girl is working with the driver to conspire to jack up the fare, and it may be true but generally the higher fare is 30 mil and it is only a 5 mil difference. That is way I said perhaps it is better just to give an all inclusive rate and she can work out the transport for herself.

That is one of the disadvantages of Facebook girls. With streetwalkers and night club girls in Poblado, the girl is already near your hotel and there is no transport cost. You usually don't have to give her anything to go home because she is going back to the night club or street. In any case, you don't have any responsibility for her travel back to her home. Same with the casa girls, you go there and the deed is done. But with FB girls, someone has to pay for her transport to go to your hotel and if you don't pay it, she has to pay it out of the amount you give her.

Now, bear in mind, some younger girls don't have the money to pay for the taxi. In that case, you need to go down and pay the driver when she arrives. I have had a few girls say that to me.

[QUOTE=TexasPistol;2874182]

What could possibly be simpler, easier or more affordable anywhere in the world? (I haven't yet tried Thailand or the Philippines however I personally prefer Latinas over Asians.).[/QUOTE]Please try them both! BTW, Filipinas are a combination of Asian and Latinas. The best of both worlds!

[QUOTE=Nounce;2874712]You can tell them to send you live location on WhatsApp. There are drawbacks in sending car. The girl may miss the pickup. Depending on where the girl lives, it may take forever to get a car. I ordered Uber for some girls, and I have encountered problems mentioned.[/QUOTE]You can tell them to do a lot of things but that doesn't mean they are going to do them. Especially when they are late for a date. I have had girls miss the pick up and its a pain in the ass.

[QUOTE=MoonShot;2874631]I often use Uber to send the girl home to Bello. For me, it is usually not 20 mil but often 25 mil or more. Sometimes it is close to 30 mil. In my experience, it is rarely 20 mil but then again, it depends on exactly where the girl is located, whether it is raining, etc. I always offer to pay the transport cost for girls.[/QUOTE]Ok so I get lot of prices from fb girls located in Bello for 100 k for 2 hours and 140 k for over night, I gather if I go to them in Bello (which is not going to happened), so the going price for taxi ride one way to el Poblado or Laureles is BTW 20 k and 30 k? Do you think the price for the girl would increase from 100 k 2 hrs if she came to me. Oh yeah is it common for guys to go out and visit them in way out places like Bello?

[QUOTE=CeeJay1;2874779]Ok so I get lot of prices from fb girls located in Bello for 100 k for 2 hours and 140 k for over night, I gather if I go to them in Bello (which is not going to happened), so the going price for taxi ride one way to el Poblado or Laureles is BTW 20 k and 30 k? Do you think the price for the girl would increase from 100 k 2 hrs if she came to me. Oh yeah is it common for guys to go out and visit them in way out places like Bello?[/QUOTE]I have been to Bello several times. I once went there to fuck the older sister of this chick Wendy whom I met in Botero. She lived in a barrio of Bello called el porvenir. She gave me the direcion as well as shared her ubicación en tiempo real thru WhatsApp with me and I picked her up in a taxi.

We then went to a nearby short time hotel that the cab driver recommended when I asked him because I didn't know the area for shit. He took us to some hotel I think it was called Hotel America or something like that and it was 25 k for 3 hours in an actually pretty nice room that was big with 2 beds and the standard flat screen and a good strong fan.

We had unprotected sex for about 40 mins and I came inside her and afterwards she gave me a satisfying full body back massage (neck, shoulders, back, legs, and feet). I believe I gave her 150 k COP for the whole thing and we were in the room for maybe a little over an hour.

Afterwards we left the hotel and I flagged down a taxi for her to take her back to where I picked her up (I didn't give her any extra for the taxi she paid it from her 150 k).

I then asked a few people "disculpa done queda la estación del metro?" and I was told to hang a right and walk straight down like 5 blocks and I would run into it. I asked again after about 3 blocks just to make sure I was going the right way and I was. I suppose I could have used Google maps but I think my phone had died.

The area didn't seem any more rough than Aranjuez, Santo Domingo, or Popular and in fact no one tried to Rob me or kill me, but then again I don't go flashing any bling bling or gold chains either so that probably helped.

Gabacho.

P.S.: I'm not sure if it counts as Bello or not but if you take the metro going north all the way to the end of the line and get off at Niquia there is this really nice mall there called Centro Comercial Puerta del Norte. I go there often to eat McDonald's and Popsy and there's even a nice cine inside the mall if you want to watch a movie but they only have movies in Spanish not English but I actually enjoy watching movies in Spanish as I consider it part of the experience of being here.

[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2874760]You can tell them to do a lot of things but that doesn't mean they are going to do them. Especially when they are late for a date. I have had girls miss the pick up and its a pain in the ass.[/QUOTE]Yesterday a girl wanted me to order Uber after we had an agreement that she paid her own transportation. I told her to take metro and I offered to pick her up from metro station. She was also late because she lost her signal at home. I asked her to prove it and she gave me a discount of 10 mil which I did not take. LOL. I forgave her and she promised to perform .

Today, another date has her best friend with her. Almost begging me to take them both because her friend was already with her. I am interested having sex with her friend but I am a patient man. I told her she could bring her friend, but I am not going to have sex with her, and I won't pay her. LOL.

I am not afraid to cancel the appointment. Why give them so much power?

[QUOTE=Nounce;2874814]Yesterday a girl wanted me to order Uber after we had an agreement that she paid her own transportation. I told her to take metro and I offered to pick her up from metro station. She was also late because she lost her signal at home. I asked her to prove it and she gave me a discount of 10 mil which I did not take. LOL. I forgave her and she promised to perform .

Today, another date has her best friend with her. Almost begging me to take them both because her friend was already with her. I am interested having sex with her friend but I am a patient man. I told her she could bring her friend, but I am not going to have sex with her, and I won't pay her. LOL.

I am not afraid to cancel the appointment. Why give them so much power?[/QUOTE]Yea see I told you guys to make them take the metro or the bus. It works when they need the money and it's way cheaper.

[QUOTE=CeeJay1;2874779]Ok so I get lot of prices from fb girls located in Bello for 100 k for 2 hours and 140 k for over night[/QUOTE]That's suspiciously cheap. How old are they?

[QUOTE=CeeJay1;2874779]Do you think the price for the girl would increase from 100 k 2 hrs if she came to me. [/QUOTE]That's something to discuss with each girl really.

[QUOTE=CeeJay1;2874779]Oh yeah is it common for guys to go out and visit them in way out places like Bello?[/QUOTE]It's not common.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2874814]Yesterday a girl wanted me to order Uber after we had an agreement that she paid her own transportation. I told her to take metro and I offered to pick her up from metro station. She was also late because she lost her signal at home. I asked her to prove it and she gave me a discount of 10 mil which I did not take. LOL. I forgave her and she promised to perform .

Today, another date has her best friend with her. Almost begging me to take them both because her friend was already with her. I am interested having sex with her friend but I am a patient man. I told her she could bring her friend, but I am not going to have sex with her, and I won't pay her. LOL.

I am not afraid to cancel the appointment. Why give them so much power?[/QUOTE]I let the Vennie girl I met Lleras use her own transportation and she showed up with dude that she lives with. Not her boyfriend but he fucks her from time to time. This a favor for bunking at his place. When they were at the gate I didn't know and he looked pissed and was mean mugginbg me. It was priceless almost like cuckold. LOL.

I notice some guys forget about the cash payment option for uber or didi. Also, as someone else mentioned, you can ask girls to send their live location. I lost interest years ago in waiting for girls to show up and guessing when or if they will arrive. Life is too short to be sitting around with your thumb up your ass wondering whether you are going to be blown off.

[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2874704]How do you get the girls to share the trip details with you even if you don't send the car? All I ever get is a bunch of BS when asking where they are at when they are late as usual. I will start sending cars for all the ones who want me to pay for it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AdamWl;2874818]That's suspiciously cheap. How old are they?

That's something to discuss with each girl really.

It's not common.[/QUOTE]That's what I thinking, especially if they expect me to goto Bello? Maybe they're thinking if the price is cheap they can lure me or whoever out there and who knows what would happen. But that was a price at least 3 different fb girls quoted me "Who knows".

[QUOTE=Nounce;2874814]I am interested having sex with her friend but I am a patient man. I told her she could bring her friend, but I am not going to have sex with her, and I won't pay her. LOL.

I am not afraid to cancel the appointment. Why give them so much power?[/QUOTE]Because mfs are horny and not getting pussy where they are from. You are used to it, so you don't have a reason to let them run you, thinking you are going to lose out on something.

[QUOTE=CeeJay1;2874779] Oh yeah is it common for guys to go out and visit them in way out places like Bello?[/QUOTE]I took it to the next level and live out in Bello, best decision ever, and saving on chica taxis is just icing on the cake. BTW, I started hanging out in Bello circa 2015 so I'm a guy speaking from Bello and barrio experience.

[QUOTE=CeeJay1;2874828]That's what I thinking, especially if they expect me to goto Bello? Maybe they're thinking if the price is cheap they can lure me or whoever out there and who knows what would happen. But that was a price at least 3 different fb girls quoted me "Who knows".[/QUOTE]I don't think they'd expect you to come to Bello. Either way, you'd have to pay for a transport for yourself or for a chica, so why not save yourself a hassle and a security risk and just pay for her transport.

The only way I can imagine they'd tell you that you need to come there is if they are actually working in casa / brothel and can't leave until their shift is done.

I mean you could go, senor RiceRocket99 plays around in Bello, but he's more of an exception (and an inspiration), experienced monger and as far as I remember a Spanish native speaker, relatively young, can pass for a local and has network of contacts there.

Visiting unknown chica met briefly on the internet in her barrio and the area you know nothing about isn't probably the best idea, but to each their own.

I made my flight arrangements and I have been RTFF and it has been useful to prepare for trip in terms of what to expect, how to be safe etc, learning Spanish (just bought Duolingo). But I have some tactical questions for which I'm unable to pickup the answers from the posts (very likely my comprehension issues).

1. Stay. I'm narrowing down to El Poblado or Laureles based many posts that say safe bet for first timers in terms of safety. But I could not narrow down to specific hotel or airbnb that ids the girls every time and 24 X7 security etc. I don't mind a small fee for each guest if that's what I need to pay for my peace of mind. Any recommendations or keywords I need to search the forum for specific hotel or airbnb recommendation?

2. Facebook contacts. I established a facebook couple of months and started providers in my local area but I need to be friends with girls in Medellin. I'm not sure how to do that. Somebody mentioned that there is dedicated post that covers the tips / steps to find girls in Medellin to send friend request but I could not find that post. Can someone kindly provide some information please?

3. Phone. I want to access my US phone number so am I better off to buy a dual SIM cheap phone here in US and activate my local number in one of the SIMs and buy another SIM when I'm in Medellin? If so, where would I buy it? In the airport? I heard someone mentioned "Claro" is that store or a carrier?

Sorry for all newbie questions. I didn't skip on RTFF but I just have tactical guidance. I promise post my experience after my trip.

[QUOTE=CeeJay1;2874779]Ok so I get [b]lot of prices [/b]from fb girls located in Bello for 100 k for 2 hours and 140 k for over night, ...[/QUOTE]You can't believe these numbers regardless of age if you are contacting FB girls. The odds makes it almost impossible to have "lot of".

[QUOTE=Nounce;2874955]You can't believe these numbers regardless of age if you are contacting FB girls. Certainly not "a lot", the odds makes it almost impossible.[/QUOTE]100 k for 2 hours isn't impossible (if it was a repeat Chica who doesn't clock watch) but 140 k for an amanecida I think maybe he misunderstood something.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2874807]...
The area didn't seem any more rough than Aranjuez...[/QUOTE]The nightlife area is Obrero.

I was at Aranjuez during la alborada after midnight. I knew my phone data was going to expire. I ordered Cabify and had connection, so I thought I had one more day and I went to El Centro to have fried chicken, only to find out around 12:40 that I no longer had data. Before I would just walk, but I decided to get a taxi just to be safe after some incidents I ran into earlier this year. It was difficult to get taxi until I walk to closer to the middle of the road to get the taxi to stop.

[QUOTE=MoonShot;2874720]...I am starting to think that the all-inclusive deal is better..[/QUOTE]You get a peace of mind and keep control. Ordering car is giving control to the girl like you are her secretary. It also gives the girl a chance to keep more money if they choose alternative transportation.


It works often but there are situations that make it not ideal. The Uber can get lost and off by a few blocks while going home. Sure, like some have said you get a safety warning, but do you really want to cancel the car? I never did because I don't want the girl to be stranded which was the case almost every time. Or the Uber can tell the girl you have not paid even though it is set up as credit card payment. There are just too many potential issues that I speak from experience. I do still order car for girl when needed but that is not my preference.

How does a girl keep more money if you send a car for her?

[QUOTE=Nounce;2874966]You get a peace of mind and keep control. Ordering car is giving control to the girl like you are her secretary. It also gives the girl a chance to keep more money if they choose alternative transportation.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2874970]How does a girl keep more money if you send a car for her?[/QUOTE][b]It[/b] refers to when you don't send a car.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2874966]You get a peace of mind and keep control. ... It also gives the girl a chance to keep more money if they choose alternative transportation.
[/QUOTE]

Another SW hottie without cedula. She swears she's 18 but got robbed and lost it. Doesn't have a photo of it. Says she'll have to arrange something called contrasena (with soft n).

Any way to verify / retrieve the cedula info just by the number? She can of course recite it in her sleep like all Colombians.

Probably not. Oh well.

[QUOTE=AdamWl;2874995]Another SW hottie without cedula. She swears she's 18 but got robbed and lost it. Doesn't have a photo of it. Says she'll have to arrange something called contrasena (with soft n).

Any way to verify / retrieve the cedula info just by the number? She can of course recite it in her sleep like all Colombians.

Probably not. Oh well.[/QUOTE]They can look up the number of her cedula online the same way the cops do with their hand held devices. But I don't think it shows a picture all they will be able to see is the cedula number, nombre, apellidos and date of birth.

A contraseña (with enye not a soft and, what the hell is a soft and?) is legit. It is similar to a cedula and has her picture and date of birth and is usually issued while they are waiting for their cedula to be issued for the first time.

[QUOTE=Yuvaraj;2874938]1. Stay. I'm narrowing down to El Poblado or Laureles based many posts that say safe bet for first timers in terms of safety. But I could not narrow down to specific hotel or airbnb that ids the girls every time and 24 X7 security etc. I don't mind a small fee for each guest if that's what I need to pay for my peace of mind. Any recommendations or keywords I need to search the forum for specific hotel or airbnb recommendation?[/QUOTE]Should consider, being your first time, to stay at The Mansion ([URL]http://hotelmedellinplaza.com[/URL]) which caters to what you seek. Safe and easy in Poblado.

Your US phone should work fine, most locals use WhatsApp for communications. Check what your carrier offers for foreign data in Colombia. There's also WIFI at most hotels and restaurants.

[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2874436]About what percentage of them decline your offer of 250?[/QUOTE]I'm late responding because I've been traveling. It is less than 10% who decline. I don't solicit a great number. I try to find two or three new chicas when I'm in Medellin for a month. I can somewhat eliminate many of them just by looking at their FB posts. If they have consistent posts showing them in Europe and / or Mexico, I don't bother with them. If they are covered with tattoos and have had lots of cosmetic procedures, they're not my type. I have more than enough friends on FB to take care of me, but I suppose it's the monger mentality. I want to experience what's on the other side of the fence.

Thanks for the information. I just read some of your posts in this thread. Very useful! Thank you so much! I will email mansion ask about the rooms.

Also, I noticed in the travel announcements that our stays will overlap (mine are from Jan 13th to 15th). I would like to meet up preferably in Mansion bar for beer. BTW, I'm also from FL (Orlando) .

[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;2875022]Should consider, being your first time, to stay at The Mansion ([URL]http://hotelmedellinplaza.com[/URL]) which caters to what you seek. Safe and easy in Poblado.

Your US phone should work fine, most locals use WhatsApp for communications. Check what your carrier offers for foreign data in Colombia. There's also WIFI at most hotels and restaurants.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2874825]I notice some guys forget about the cash payment option for uber or didi. Also, as someone else mentioned, you can ask girls to send their live location. I lost interest years ago in waiting for girls to show up and guessing when or if they will arrive. Life is too short to be sitting around with your thumb up your ass wondering whether you are going to be blown off.[/QUOTE]I have never had a Brazilian girl show up on time. NEVER. They are always late. You just have to tell them if they are more than 30 minutes late you're leaving. I had a girl what's app me 2 hours after appointment time. I said sorry I'm out.

[QUOTE=Yuvaraj;2874938].
but I need to be friends with girls in Medellin. I'm not sure how to do that. .[/QUOTE]

Find her on Facebook. You can add friends from her friend list. Then look for a guy on her friend list with "Cpa-pc" in his name, his list is also open, you can add his friends too.

[QUOTE=Shemp;2750613]I had the misfortune of seeing Jenni Munoz today.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DandyMan51;2750555]I had the misfortune of seeing Jenni Munoz today. ..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nounce;2874814].Today, another date has her best friend with her. Almost begging me to take them both because her friend was already with her..[/QUOTE]I have seen this girl a few times. She wanted 350 mil total originally. She does stand out in appearance. She eventually agreed to 250 mil. In the middle of the session, I had to re-negotiate to have BBBJ for 50 mil more. LOL. I lost my erection during negotiation, but she sucked well until I recovered, this is the main reason I repeated with her. She is a very good kisser without restriction. She also has the stamina for CG that she did in her unique way. She hit me up again. BTW, I never initiated contact with her after the first date. I got her to agree to my terms and made sure she would not create problem like the first time and added a few more details. I knew she was a clock watcher during negotiation so one thing I got her to agree is to take everything slow and no rush. I told her she would have more money already if she stopped negotiating all these minor things. She agreed after a couple of days.

Fast forward to trio. She had mentioned trio before, and we negotiated for a while. She offered to give me a good discount and would do anything I told them to do. HAHA. It was 250 + 200. I said 2 pops. I don't really want 2 pops, but it gives me flexibility. She said 2 and a half hours for 2 pops for 500 total. Then it became 3 hours. I did not take it and always said to come alone. Until this time, that she offered 250 + 150 which I countered 250 + 100. She started to ask very nicely, and I agreed to 400 total. They like men and women but they are not lovers, just best friends and they had sex twice before. She played the music mixed by a Colombian DJ from Youtube which I could not find from Apple Music so I let her play from Youtube. It appeared my phone had problem with youbute so I lost my erection again while trying to get the music back but the double BBBJ recovered it very quickly. They stayed for about 2. 5 hours.

Despite the appearance that there are more demand and the price increase , it seems to me most girls are not that busy. One may say the better looking girls have more demand. I don't disagree but I think the demand is not that high across the board for good looking FB girls and there are not that many from my point of view

OK, thanks, that makes sense to me. I think I was up too late the night before I read that.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2874979][b]It[/b] refers to when you don't send a car.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2875013]They can look up the number of her cedula online the same way the cops do with their hand held devices. But I don't think it shows a picture all they will be able to see is the cedula number, nombre, apellidos and date of birth.

A contrasea (with enye not a soft and, what the hell is a soft and?) is legit. It is similar to a cedula and has her picture and date of birth and is usually issued while they are waiting for their cedula to be issued for the first time.[/QUOTE]Thanks Gabacho, that's a good info.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2875013]A contrasea (with enye not a soft and, what the hell is a soft and?) is legit. It is similar to a cedula and has her picture and date of birth and is usually issued while they are waiting for their cedula to be issued for the first time.[/QUOTE]Isn't it excellent how correct Spanish is impossible on this board? Great job, mods! And Hi Cheesy Larry.

Anyone know how far the Hotel Dix is from the Mansion bar / dance floor where we would be able to meet the girls? Uber cost?

The reason for the question is, I'm trying to make reservation with Mansion for my travel dates but it appears they need a referral for that because when I asked them availability and rates they responded with the question to share the name of the friend that recommended their place. Not sure how to respond to that, obviously I do not want to mention of this forum etc. Didn't realize they need referral but understand why they have that system.

So trying to look to alternative stay arrangements and want to make sure that the place I stay is not too far Mansion bar.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2875013]They can look up the number of her cedula online the same way the cops do with their hand held devices. But I don't think it shows a picture all they will be able to see is the cedula number, nombre, apellidos and date of birth.[/QUOTE]BTW just found this link to the tool on the police website to do the basic background check based on the cedula number. It doesn't show much info though, just the full name and offences, if any. Better than nothing.

[URL]https://antecedentes.policia.gov.co:7005/WebJudicial/index.xhtml[/URL]

Also, there is an app called Verifiquese Cedula that I'm checking now, it seems to have links to multiple government verification databases/websites.

I agree with you. I think guys who put up with girls showing up 30 minutes or more late are doing a disservice to themselves and to the rest of us. We all have only a limited time in life. It makes no sense to me to spend it with my thumb up my ass wondering when or if a girl is going to show up. The hell with that nonsense.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2875120]I have never had a Brazilian girl show up on time. NEVER. They are always late. You just have to tell them if they are more than 30 minutes late you're leaving. I had a girl what's app me 2 hours after appointment time. I said sorry I'm out.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AdamWl;2875293]BTW just found this link to the tool on the police website to do the basic background check based on the cedula number. It doesn't show much info though, just the full name and offences, if any. Better than nothing..[/QUOTE]I think that link there is just for checking if a person has any active denuncias against them which is roughly like an arrest warrant. If you stay here long enough you will start to run into cops like at metro stations and parks and shit and they will come up to you and / or stop you as you walk by for no apparent reason and ask you for your numero de cedula. They then check it in their little hand held devices and it tells them if you have any denuncias then they say gracias and let you go. As a foreigner you can just say "soy extranjero" and usually they won't even ask for your number but I always pull out my US passport card which I keep in my wallet and just show them that and they don't even try to enter the numbers off of it they just look at it and hand it back to me and that's it.

There is a different web site that does have the date of birth and I know some hotels use it to verify if a cedula is real or not by checking it on the website. They can even check cedulas venezolanas too but not sure if that requires a different website. I'll have to ask the hotel dude where I usually stay in Bogota they know what website it is.

You don't need a referral to book at Mansion. Someone is egging you on. Perhaps a referral is needed for some occasional discount offers they may run but anyone can book Mansion unless the rules changed while I was sleeping recently. Jajajaja.

[QUOTE=Yuvaraj;2875279]Anyone know how far the Hotel Dix is from the Mansion bar / dance floor where we would be able to meet the girls? Uber cost?

The reason for the question is, I'm trying to make reservation with Mansion for my travel dates but it appears they need a referral for that because when I asked them availability and rates they responded with the question to share the name of the friend that recommended their place. Not sure how to respond to that, obviously I do not want to mention of this forum etc. Didn't realize they need referral but understand why they have that system.

So trying to look to alternative stay arrangements and want to make sure that the place I stay is not too far Mansion bar.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2875298]I agree with you. I think guys who put up with girls showing up 30 minutes or more late are doing a disservice to themselves and to the rest of us. We all have only a limited time in life. It makes no sense to me to spend it with my thumb up my ass wondering when or if a girl is going to show up. The hell with that nonsense.[/QUOTE]If you are not going to tolerate girls showing up more than 30 minutes late, you are going to dramatically limit the amount of online girls that you can see. This is Colombia where time is not of the essence. The professionals will show up on time generally because that is their business but the semi-pros usually don't show up on time. It is the way they approach social events and they treat appointments with gringos the same way. It also depends on the age and experience of the girl. If you are dealing with girls in their late 20's and up, it is more likely that they will show up close to online. But when you are talking about girls in the 18-22 age range, it is a completely different story. I just schedule the girls an hour early and then they usually show up on time when I really want to see them. But then it is the girls who show up on time that screw me up. Ja ja ja.

[QUOTE=Yuvaraj;2875279]Anyone know how far the Hotel Dix is from the Mansion bar / dance floor where we would be able to meet the girls? Uber cost?

The reason for the question is, I'm trying to make reservation with Mansion for my travel dates but it appears they need a referral for that because when I asked them availability and rates they responded with the question to share the name of the friend that recommended their place. Not sure how to respond to that, obviously I do not want to mention of this forum etc. Didn't realize they need referral but understand why they have that system.

So trying to look to alternative stay arrangements and want to make sure that the place I stay is not too far Mansion bar.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]15 minute walk, slightly uphill from your hotel, downhill back.

I'll message you privately for a referral if that is what they need.

Anyone with any recent experience at at these options in Laureles? Considering for my next trip. Pros and cons of each?

Feel free to message me, would appreciate it.

Where can you find girls like this in Colombia? Last time I was there most the girls were poor looking or not that attractive and out of shape. Bbl's and fake tits don't do it for me.

[QUOTE=Yuvaraj;2874938]I made my flight arrangements and I have been RTFF and it has been useful to prepare for trip in terms of what to expect, how to be safe etc, learning Spanish (just bought Duolingo). But I have some tactical questions for which I'm unable to pickup the answers from the posts (very likely my comprehension issues).

1. Stay. I'm narrowing down to El Poblado or Laureles based many posts that say safe bet for first timers in terms of safety. But I could not narrow down to specific hotel or airbnb that ids the girls every time and 24 X7 security etc. I don't mind a small fee for each guest if that's what I need to pay for my peace of mind. Any recommendations or keywords I need to search the forum for specific hotel or airbnb recommendation? [/QUOTE]Laureles. San Peter apartments is a good place. I always stay there when I visit Medellin. They have 24 x7 security and all girls must have a valid Colombian ID. They also have an American bar downstairs where you can hang out with other gringos.

Poblado. I recommend staying at the Mansion, aka Hotel M, if it's your first time in Medellin. They have a bar next door where girls hang out. Most if not all guests who stay there are americans. It's very safe and 24 x7 security also.

[URL]http://hotelmedellinplaza.com/[/URL]

Both places don't charge any guest fee. Hope that helps.

[QUOTE=Yuvaraj;2875279]... obviously I do not want to mention of this forum etc. Didn't realize they need referral but understand why they have that system..[/QUOTE]Mention it, I think that is your referral.

9:15 at night Thursday last week side of the church at the barricade entrance. Guy I was talking to told me 5 girls (not large) surrounded him and acted flirty but were trying to pick pocket him. He spun around throwing some elbows to get them away and went to his hotel.

2:00 in the afternoon today. Bar street behind the church. Mid-street a delivery truck was parked. Bull dyke lesbian moves quickly from the hotel to the truck facing the truck and sticks their leg out backwards like they are stretching to go jogging. Tranny moved forward from the hotel building towards me thus putting me between them. Tranny moved their hand up and I pushed it away hard and kept going.

End of the month and holiday season. The local guys are spending money. Friday, Saturday, and Sunday I had 5 girls during that time and 4 were snapped up quick. First girl. We finished and I let her out, went back and rinsed the soap off my back quickly dried and out the door. I am on the 3rd floor. When I get to the 2nd floor she is there with another guy paying for a room to do the nasty. Most likely the loving glow on her face that I gave her like a pregnant woman supposedly gets. Second girl left the hotel and I spoke with the staff for 5 minutes. Guess who magically appears 5 minutes later with a new guy? Third girl. We were on the 2nd floor and I stopped to look at my phone as she passed from behind me and started down the steps. She only made it halfway down before some guy called her back up. Fourth girl. Had not seen her in months. Got up from the bench. Made it 10 steps and some guy grabbed her. Half hour later she is done. She passes me on the bench and I get up and 10 steps is too slow again. Some other guy grabs her. I can not find anyone that interests me and I see her 40 minutes later and sprint as fast as I could yelling at her to scare any guys away. I have my fun at my hotel and bring her back around 9:45 at night. There is a guy walking slightly to the side and slightly in front of us. I stopped and let her walk the rest of the way alone. She makes it maybe 20 steps before that guy moves in and starts chatting her up. Who knows what happened. She is a solid 8 and used to be a solid 9 before the baby. Body, face, attitude.

My turn finally. The 3rd girl mentioned above I wanted to take for a 2nd fling. I was watching her across the street but the friend she was standing next to was mad at me for not taking her for a 4th time so I could not approach. Luck has it she moves away. Then I notice she is walking to a hotel and kept looking back for some guy to follow. But I never saw him approach her or walk with her. She is standing at the top of the stairs of the same hotel some guy called her when she was halfway down a few days ago. She starts coming back down the stairs. I do not see any guy so I walk up the stairs and meet her halfway. Grab her waist, turn her around, and we go back up. We do the deed.

I committed a monger sin. Last month I gave away 2 gold bracelets, 1 Black Hills gold ring, and one silver ring. No diamonds. They were left at my work years ago. I could pawn them and get pennies on the dollar, get them stolen, or simply lose them. Do not worry I was no more special the next time they saw me. I am sure they have already either pawned, lost, or had them stolen already so everything is back to normal. I know if I bought any girl a house the very next day they would want to know what I would do for them that day, and the next, and so on. But I had explained they were good girls and never gave me any problems, not because of any feelings. Am I going to get kicked off this site now?

My hotel cleaning lady listens to 1980's USA pop radio music when she cleans. She goes from room to room and tunes in to that station 91.8. She sung several phrases of an Elton John song and some words to a Def Lepard song. She has no idea what she is saying but having fun. I had to smile in shock when I heard the one hit wonder: Eddie Murphy's "Party All The Time". I know this is important to someone and they needed to know this. Welcome!

Actually she scares the hell out me. I have this recurring nightmare. I am walking down my hotel hallway. Guns & Roses "Welcome to the Jungle" starts to play. She corrects the song to make it the Centro Rat Theme Song. She slides out from one of the rooms into the hallway like Tom Cruise does in Risky Business with her broom in her hand. The broom is her microphone and she starts singing "Welcome to the Centro" and moving side to side doing that move that the lead singer Axl Rose does. I completely lose my shiitt and jump off the roof because all reality has ended.

Welcome to the Centro.

We got fun and games.

We got everything you want.

Honey, we know the names.

We are the people that can find.

Whatever you may need.

If you got no money, honey.

We got your disease.

In the Centro, welcome to the Centro.

Watch it bring you to your knees, knees.

Ooh-ah, I want to watch you bleed.

Welcome to the Centro.

We take it day by day.

If you want it, you're going to bleed.

But that's the price you pay.

You're a very sexy girl.

Who's very hard to please.

You can taste the bright lights.

But you won't get them for free.

In the Centro, welcome to the Centro.

Feel my, my, my, my serpentine.

I, I want to hear you scream.

Welcome to the Centro.

It's worse here everyday.

You learn to live like an animal.

In the Centro where we play.

You got a hunger for what you see.

You'll take it eventually.

You can have anything you want.

But you better not take it from me.

In the Centro, welcome to the Centro.

Watch it bring you to your knees, knees.

Ooh-ah, I'm going to watch you bleed.

And when you're high, you never.

Ever want to come down.

So down, so down, so down, yeah.

Aw.

You know where you are?

You're in the Centro, baby.

You're going to die.

In the Centro, welcome to the Centro.

Watch it bring you to your knees, knees.

In the Centro, welcome to the Centro.

Feel my, my, my, my serpentine.

In the Centro, welcome to the Centro.

Watch it bring you to your knees, knees.

It's going to bring you down, huh.

Fyou. You are all thinking it now and just as scared!

[QUOTE=SankarShetty;2875332]You don't need a referral to book at Mansion. Someone is egging you on. Perhaps a referral is needed for some occasional discount offers they may run but anyone can book Mansion unless the rules changed while I was sleeping recently. Jajajaja.[/QUOTE]Only the most rookie nookie seekers should stay at that place. It sucks.

This news article (from back in November) may be of interest to those of you who (like me) are over 65 (and who qualify as "gringos" as most narrowly defined**) regardless of your political leanings (or whether you may or may not think this would be a good use of your US tax dollars). Something to keep our eyes on as events unfold--especially if, in addition to being an elder of the community, you find condoms to be the enemy of pleasure.

[URL]https://abcnews.go.com/Health/hiv-prevention-drugs-older-americans-free-new-biden/story?id=104600444[/URL] "HIV prevention drugs for older Americans may be free under new Biden proposal. The drugs, known by the shorthand "PrEP," would be free in pill form and -- for the first time -- as long-acting injectables through the government insurance program designed for those 65 and older. ".

** A footnote on the use of "Gringo", the subject of some back and forth here several weeks ago. As detailed in the following link, the term definitely varies in usage from country to country: sometimes it's an insult; elsewhere it's perfectly friendly. In some places "gringo" narrowly denotes someone from the USA; sometimes it applies to most any foreigner. In Peru it can refer to anyone who's fair skinned, even a fellow Peruvian. ([URL]https://www.spanish.academ[/URL]why / blog / what-is-the-meaning-of-gringo-the-history-and-origin-of-the-term /.

The Spanish etymological dictionaries concur that the term originated from "Griego", the Spanish word for a Greek. As early as 1787, the "Diccionario Castellano" (1787) reports that "gringo" was used in Malaga for "anyone who spoke Spanish badly," and in Madrid for "the Irish. " Griego evolved into the American Spanish verb engringarse "to act like a foreigner. " The belief (repeated during the ISG discussion) that "Gringo" originated later, during the Mexican-American War (of 1846-'48) from cries of "Green Go Home " (referencing the green uniforms sported by the invading Yankees) is described as "etymological folklore"--i.e. the linguistic equivalent of an urban myth.

Holiday tomorrow so many places will be closed like the casa's including Energy. Don't about clubs like Gustos or Fase 2 though.

[QUOTE=LvZooMan211;2875408]Laureles. San Peter apartments is a good place. I always stay there when I visit Medellin. They have 24 x7 security and all girls must have a valid Colombian ID. They also have an American bar downstairs where you can hang out with other gringos.[/QUOTE]Would you mind sharing the link for this apartment so I can book this the next time I visit Medellin. I'm so tired of staying in poblado and needed somewhere new.

[QUOTE=IntBond0;2875407]Where can you find girls like this in Colombia? Last time I was there most the girls were poor looking or not that attractive and out of shape. Bbl's and fake tits don't do it for me.[/QUOTE]Photoshop.

But fake butts do?

[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;2875652]Photoshop.

But fake butts do?[/QUOTE]She's from Argentina but has a million followers, came to the states and people are losing their mind about her because of that booty LOL if most of the girls from south America that are fit cane to the states, the outcome would be the same.

[QUOTE=ElSexoChino7;2875625]Would you mind sharing the link for this apartment so I can book this the next time I visit Medellin. I'm so tired of staying in poblado and needed somewhere new.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.hotels.com/ho613522080/san-peter-suites-medellin-colombia/[/URL]

You can google San Peter Apartments Medellin and it will show up on multiple sites like, [URL]hotels.com[/URL], [URL]booking.com[/URL], orbitz, expedia, etc. The prices are very similar on all the sites. The apartments are all different so it all depends on what's available.

I went to Medellin once and stayed in Poblado. Me and buddy took an uber to The Mansion. It was a ways away from where we were staying. But the Mansion we went to is not the same as the one I see people mention here as the Hotel M. The Mansion I went to was up a long windy driveway, like your going into the woods. Sat a top a hill. It was huge inside and it had a bar inside where you wait to have the girls showcased to you.

I looked at google maps at the Hotel M and that can't be it.

[QUOTE=IntBond0;2875407]Where can you find girls like this in Colombia? Last time I was there most the girls were poor looking or not that attractive and out of shape. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=IntBond0;2875660]She's from Argentina but has a million followers, came to the states and people are losing their mind about her because of that booty LOL if most of the girls from south America that are fit cane to the states, the outcome would be the same.[/QUOTE]Are people losing their minds or are people that have nothing to do except look at pictures on the internet losing their minds?

Funny how some people develop what they like from pictures and how many followers an account has versus what they see outside in real life.

You could surmise that if most of the girls from the States went to South America, then the same thing would happen. It is only a case of people taking an affinity to what is exotic to them. If you had grown up with those same girls then you would care less about their pictures of how many followers they had. They would just be regular ass Betty and Sue to you. Trust me. None of these chicks' former classmates and neighbors have lost their minds over this internet account.

[QUOTE=LvZooMan211;2875696][URL]https://www.hotels.com/ho613522080/san-peter-suites-medellin-colombia/[/URL]

You can google San Peter Apartments Medellin and it will show up on multiple sites like, [URL]hotels.com[/URL], [URL]booking.com[/URL], orbitz, expedia, etc. The prices are very similar on all the sites. The apartments are all different so it all depends on what's available.[/QUOTE]When I stayed there I found it very noisy even during the week from the street noise and ended up moving somewhere else. I think I booked it on expedia with pay at location. They only accepted cash for payment at San Peter. No credit card or debit availble.

18 year-old girl has been arrested for the murder of 55 year old American in El Poblado (20+ stab wounds).

The victim had contacted the alleged aggressor through a dating platform.

[URL]https://www.elcolombiano.com/medellin/mujer-de-18-anos-enviada-a-la-carcel-por-asesinato-de-estadounidense-en-el-poblado-PK23299273[/URL]

[QUOTE=HumpyDumpty11;2875738]I went to Medellin once and stayed in Poblado. Me and buddy took an uber to The Mansion. It was a ways away from where we were staying. But the Mansion we went to is not the same as the one I see people mention here as the Hotel M. The Mansion I went to was up a long windy driveway, like your going into the woods. Sat a top a hill. It was huge inside and it had a bar inside where you wait to have the girls showcased to you.

I looked at google maps at the Hotel M and that can't be it.[/QUOTE]Nevermind. I found the place. It's called Loutron Massage Parlor. Funny cause my boy told the cab to take us to the mansion.

[QUOTE=Giz99;2875830]When I stayed there I found it very noisy even during the week from the street noise and ended up moving somewhere else. I think I booked it on expedia with pay at location. They only accepted cash for payment at San Peter. No credit card or debit availble.[/QUOTE]To further clarify the noise issues at San Peter as noted by Giz99, and which do result in many short and aborted stays: Noise levels vary by floor of apartment (2 to 17), orientation (bedroom facing La 70 side of the building with its discos and bars, or the quieter Calle 42 to the rear), and whether the apartment has airport-grade windows insulated for sound. Rental price per unit tends to vary accordingly. All that said, there are a number of long term, happy campers there, myself included (a geezer who can deal with any residual Bad Bunny, Latin Trap decibels from the street below by removing his hearing aids at night).

[QUOTE=HumpyDumpty11;2875738]I went to Medellin once and stayed in Poblado. Me and buddy took an uber to The Mansion. It was a ways away from where we were staying. But the Mansion we went to is not the same as the one I see people mention here as the Hotel M. The Mansion I went to was up a long windy driveway, like your going into the woods. Sat a top a hill. It was huge inside and it had a bar inside where you wait to have the girls showcased to you.

I looked at google maps at the Hotel M and that can't be it.[/QUOTE]Nope, that's not it. The long winding driveway you went to is probably the casa that uses one of Escorbar's former houses. The Hotel M is not a casa or similar. It's a regular guest house that girls happen to hang out at. The hotel has no function in selecting girls, getting girls, or such. Hotel M (the mansion) is located here: [URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/AyewuNghXyKHhAqi7[/URL].

I've never stayed at the San Peter but I've been on la 70 many times at different times of day. I don't know how anyone could live there. I'm told there are soundproof windows but I have my doubts I could tolerate it. There are other options. My recommendation would be to spend a bit of time with one of the map applications and be sure the places you consider are at least two streets away from la 70. The noise level is really hard to imagine until you experience it and it goes on all night every night.

[QUOTE=Giz99;2875830]When I stayed there I found it very noisy even during the week from the street noise and ended up moving somewhere else. I think I booked it on expedia with pay at location. They only accepted cash for payment at San Peter. No credit card or debit availble.[/QUOTE]

I decided to hit up Centro as I haven't been down here in a while and I have this 21 year old vennie that I met back in August that's been dying to repeat with me. I got her to agree to BBFS cip for 60 mil and I pay the room. She didn't disappoint by the way.

I got down here a little early and while I was waiting for her to arrive I did a tour around plaza botero inside of the barriers. I noticed that behind the museum there is a gap in the barriers (see attached photo) where people can exit and enter onto cra 53 (the bar street) without any police there manning the gap. Doesn't that defeat the whole purpose of even having the barriers in the first place?

Anyways centro is still as great as always I had a great session and my favorite limonada lady still hooks me up with a big ass vaso of limonada for 2 mil pesos.

I was disappointed to see that one my favorite restaurants "Chorizos and Asados" is no longer there. It got replaced by some bullshit called Rey de Sopas.

The third picture is from inside hotel botero real (el hotel rojo) from the point of view of the stairs looking out of the entrance.

I expected these barriers to be good soon maybe within the next month as soon as Fico takes over.

[QUOTE=NilAdmirari;2875856]To further clarify the noise issues at San Peter as noted by Giz99, and which do result in many short and aborted stays: Noise levels vary by floor of apartment (2 to 17), orientation (bedroom facing La 70 side of the building with its discos and bars, or the quieter Calle 42 to the rear), and whether the apartment has airport-grade windows insulated for sound. Rental price per unit tends to vary accordingly. All that said, there are a number of long term, happy campers there, myself included (a geezer who can deal with any residual Bad Bunny, Latin Trap decibels from the street below by removing his hearing aids at night).[/QUOTE]I'll probably passed on this one. Can't deal with noise that much and I'm a light sleeper. Has anybody stayed at Hotel Dorado 70?

[QUOTE=JohnnieCash;2875834]18 year-old girl has been arrested for the murder of 55 year old American in El Poblado (20+ stab wounds).

The victim had contacted the alleged aggressor through a dating platform.

[URL]https://www.elcolombiano.com/medellin/mujer-de-18-anos-enviada-a-la-carcel-por-asesinato-de-estadounidense-en-el-poblado-PK23299273[/URL][/QUOTE]Stabbed 20+ times in the neck. Nice people we're dealing with.

Turkish citizen (39 yo) stabbed to death inside an apartment he rented in Laureles.

The criminals apparently intended to steal his belongings when he was with a woman inside the place where he was staying.

[URL]https://www.elcolombiano.com/medellin/atacaron-a-turista-turco-en-un-apartamento-de-laureles-PK23298632[/URL]

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2875901]
I expected these barriers to be good soon maybe within the next month as soon as Fico takes over.[/QUOTE]To be gone for good*.

I thought there might be an opening on the side of the museum again because I noticed the flow of pedestrian traffic was flowing in a way I had not seen since the barriers went up. I asked one of the merchants but he told me no. I'm glad he was wrong. Also new in the plaza is the opening of branches of three long time Provenza businesses, La Tasca Espanola, Bam Bam (hamburgers) and El Social (coming soon) in and near the former Tostao location. The owner of La Tasca is the head of the Provenza business owner association and the self appointed mayor of Provenza. I admire her tireless promotion of Medellin tourism. She famously put her foot down and demanded the authorities take action against the foreigner who paraded a scantily clad woman through Provenza on a leash with a dog collar attached to her neck. The foreigner was later deported.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2875901]I decided to hit up Centro as I haven't been down here in a while and I have this 21 year old vennie that I met back in August that's been dying to repeat with me. I got her to agree to BBFS cip for 60 mil and I pay the room. She didn't disappoint by the way.

I got down here a little early and while I was waiting for her to arrive I did a tour around plaza botero inside of the barriers. I noticed that behind the museum there is a gap in the barriers (see attached photo) where people can exit and enter onto cra 53 (the bar street) without any police there manning the gap. Doesn't that defeat the whole purpose of even having the barriers in the first place?

Anyways centro is still as great as always I had a great session and my favorite limonada lady still hooks me up with a big ass vaso of limonada for 2 mil pesos.

I was disappointed to see that one my favorite restaurants "Chorizos and Asados" is no longer there. It got replaced by some bullshit called Rey de Sopas.

The third picture is from inside hotel botero real (el hotel rojo) from the point of view of the stairs looking out of the entrance.

I expected these barriers to be good soon maybe within the next month as soon as Fico takes over.[/QUOTE]

Coming to Medellin for my first trip and do not speak Spanish. Friend was coming with that speaks it and been there before, but he had heart attack and can't come.

Could use a coach / mentor while there to help me learn mainly where to go and not go. Be glad to compensate for their time, or at least buy some meals and drinks.

Maybe someone very experience from US that could advise me some about spending 3/4 months year there during our winter months.

I have read a lot of information on here, but nothing like having an experienced and knowledgeable new friend to advise me.

Details;

73 year young, great health, good personality, know my time chasing "monky" is passing fast so have sense of urgency to get as much of it as I possibly can!

To hell with the kids inheritance, they would waste it anyway. LOL.

From Tennessee, spend 3/4 months Florida as snowbird, but getting so expensive there thinking of changing to Colombia.

Fly into Medellin next week on Spirit December 15 for 12 days. Yes we were planning a heck of a time, I can't get refund on tickets so I'm going make best of it as I can.

See this trip now mainly as; learning safe areas, common safety precautions, the culture, the people, the currency, or let me say things you had to learn the hard way.

Feel free to private message with any questions or ideas you may have.

Monky eye.

You won't, girls that look like that are not usually in the business and if they are they are linked up to a Narco and won't usually play with tourist.

[QUOTE=IntBond0;2875407]Where can you find girls like this in Colombia? Last time I was there most the girls were poor looking or not that attractive and out of shape. Bbl's and fake tits don't do it for me.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2875890]I've never stayed at the San Peter but I've been on la 70 many times at different times of day. I don't know how anyone could live there. I'm told there are soundproof windows but I have my doubts I could tolerate it.[/QUOTE]At San Peters, they were advertising that rooms were upgraded / changed to soundproof windows. That is total BS. Look at the windows. Why is that soundproof?

I was told that you have to initially have to build the building to make it soundproof. I believe you have to have a double window (2 windows separated by air) to make it soundproof. The only / best place I know that has that is the Majestic Suites in Bangkok. The rooms that face busy Suk are quiet.

[QUOTE=ElSexoChino7;2875931]I'll probably passed on this one. Can't deal with noise that much and I'm a light sleeper.[/QUOTE]You have to get the rooms that faces away from Avenida 70. I've never stayed at those rooms, so I can't confirm. But those rooms faces away from Avenida 70, which has all the bars.

[QUOTE=JohnnieCash;2876115]Turkish citizen (39 yo) stabbed to death inside an apartment he rented in Laureles. The criminals apparently intended to steal his belongings when he was with a woman inside the place where he was staying.

[URL]https://www.elcolombiano.com/medellin/atacaron-a-turista-turco-en-un-apartamento-de-laureles-PK23298632[/URL][/QUOTE]I like that the article gave us some numbers to work with. It said that crime against foreign tourists is on the rise. This year there have been 248 reported thefts and 26 violent deaths.

"To hell with the kids inheritance, they would waste it anyway. LOL. ".

Monkey Eye you are a star. That's how I feel too.

[QUOTE=MonkyEye;2876163]Coming to Medellin for my first trip and do not speak Spanish. Friend was coming with that speaks it and been there before, but he had heart attack and can't come.

Could use a coach / mentor while there to help me learn mainly where to go and not go. Be glad to compensate for their time, or at least buy some meals and drinks.

Maybe someone very experience from US that could advise me some about spending 3/4 months year there during our winter months.

I have read a lot of information on here, but nothing like having an experienced and knowledgeable new friend to advise me.

Details;

73 year young, great health, good personality, know my time chasing "monky" is passing fast so have sense of urgency to get as much of it as I possibly can!

To hell with the kids inheritance, they would waste it anyway. LOL.

From Tennessee, spend 3/4 months Florida as snowbird, but getting so expensive there thinking of changing to Colombia.

Fly into Medellin next week on Spirit December 15 for 12 days. Yes we were planning a heck of a time, I can't get refund on tickets so I'm going make best of it as I can.

See this trip now mainly as; learning safe areas, common safety precautions, the culture, the people, the currency, or let me say things you had to learn the hard way.

Feel free to private message with any questions or ideas you may have.

Monky eye.[/QUOTE]

Hi guys,

I am going to Medellin in February 18-26.

Been there already, but this time I am traveling alone. Anyone plans to be there in that time?

Looking for a wingman.

[QUOTE=JohnnieCash;2876115]Turkish citizen (39 yo) stabbed to death inside an apartment he rented in Laureles.

The criminals apparently intended to steal his belongings when he was with a woman inside the place where he was staying.

[URL]https://www.elcolombiano.com/medellin/atacaron-a-turista-turco-en-un-apartamento-de-laureles-PK23298632[/URL][/QUOTE]Do you have a later report that says he died? The report you referenced says his health status is reserved.

[QUOTE=Zhagolo52;2876166]You won't, girls that look like that are not usually in the business and if they are they are linked up to a Narco and won't usually play with tourist.[/QUOTE]All the girls I fuck in MDE are at least that hot. There are tons of them available. I checked her IG, no tits and fat on her ass. Even so she has a million followers, another reason I wouldn't do her.

You are generalizing in a very broad way.

[QUOTE=Zhagolo52;2876166]You won't, girls that look like that are not usually in the business and if they are they are linked up to a Narco and won't usually play with tourist.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MonkyEye;2876163]... but nothing like having an experienced and knowledgeable new friend to advise me..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LvZooMan211;2875408]
I recommend staying at the Mansion, aka Hotel M, if it's your first time in Medellin.
[URL]http://hotelmedellinplaza.com/[/URL].[/QUOTE]You should be able to find some new friends if you stay at Mansion.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2876180]...At San Peters, they were advertising that rooms were upgraded / changed to soundproof windows. That is total BS. Look at the windows. Why is that soundproof?.[/QUOTE]Not all rooms have soundproof windows. I have been in the soundproof room. It's better but the ambient noise is obvious even for me. It really depends on one's sensitivity level. It works for some, but some will still be bothered.

The apartment number that ends with 01 have bedroom facing La 70 and are noisy. The noise level is high on weekends until to 4 or 5 AM Monday morning.

[QUOTE=Zhagolo52;2876166]You won't, girls that look like that are not usually in the business and if they are they are linked up to a Narco and won't usually play with tourist.[/QUOTE]This is a load of crap. I'm sure if he looks hard enough he can find some botox assess here in Medellin.

Fernando Botero: Dead or Alive? If asked six months ago, I would have flunked the quiz, and was surprised to learn from this linked article that he just gave up the ghost in September. For those of you who speak / read Spanish with some fluency (especially the El Centro Rats who spend much of their waking hours loitering in the shadows of his rotund sculptures in the eponymous Plaza Botero), this interview with him (conducted shortly before his death) from today's Spanish edition of the Times, may be of interest. Click on: [URL]https://www.nytimes.com/es/2023/12/09/espanol/fernando-botero-entrevista.html[/URL]#text=%C2%BFCree%20 que%20 hoy%20 en%20 d%C3%ADa, sobre%20 temas%20 m%C3%A1's%20 bien%20 amables.

I'm looking for recommendations near Mansion for incall / outcall professional massage (doesn't matter if it includes he or not) please.

[QUOTE=NilAdmirari;2876437]Fernando Botero: Dead or Alive? If asked six months ago, I would have flunked the quiz, and was surprised to learn from this linked article that he just gave up the ghost in September. For those of you who speak / read Spanish with some fluency (especially the El Centro Rats who spend much of their waking hours loitering in the shadows of his rotund sculptures in the eponymous Plaza Botero), this interview with him (conducted shortly before his death) from today's Spanish edition of the Times, may be of interest. Click on: [URL]https://www.nytimes.com/es/2023/12/09/espanol/fernando-botero-entrevista.html[/URL]#text=%C2%BFCree%20 que%20 hoy%20 en%20 d%C3%ADa, sobre%20 temas%20 m%C3%A1's%20 bien%20 amables.[/QUOTE]I was in Medellin when that happened. The coffin was brought to the museum for one day and there was a walkthrough-wake (no stopping) open to public. Some events were held in the Plaza too.

There seems to be an English version of the article as well:

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/08/special-series/fernando-botero-art-life-legacy.html[/URL]

BTW for paywalled articles the extension "Bypass Paywalls Chrome Clean" can be used.

I think this was my 6th trip to Medellin this year. I was last there in late August but did not make a trip report. This trip was short because it was last minute and also I had promised a friend at work that we would attend a boxing match at Chase Center in San Francisco on Dec 9th.

I had barely 6 months on my last passport when I made my last visit in August. So, I reapplied by sending the still valid passport for expedited service and got it back in 4 weeks. They sent back the old with hole punches 2 weeks after that.

I live in Nor Cal. So, pretty much 2 choices: San Jose or San Francisco. I chose San Francisco even though it is 45 min drive. I had used San Jose SJC for flights with American but I think they suck. On my way back to USA from MDE the previous 2 trips. There were delays up to an hour or more causing me to miss my connecting flight out of MIA. I always noticed that the JetBlue flight only 30 minutes earlier heading to Fort Lauderdale (FLL) was always on time.

I have tried 3 different airlines flying to Medellin: Avianca, American and JetBlue. I believe that JetBlue is has better service than the other two by far. I know I won't fly on Avianca anymore it was bad. No decent food and drinks are poor inflight entertain. Oh and rock hard seats in economy.

About the trip- I use Seeking, Tinder and the rest comes from visits to Lleras Park and Botero. I am still seeing Laura who I met off of Seeking from my first visit last February. However, on this visit I only saw her once since her family was having a "dinner. " That was okay with me and that's what I like about her is that she isn't too needy. When she comes over the visits are longer because she likes giving me head for extending periods of time and letting me finish down her throat likes its nothing. That leaves enough for for me to give her a cream pie. She wants more but I have no more give. When I play with big nipples she cuts.

I digress. I actually saw Yoli (Tinder) on Sunday when I arrived. I had met her two visits prior. Yoli is morenita I think that means black girl. As a black guy myself a woman like that is a delicacy. I had bought her a red Victoria Secret teddy for the last visit but she flaked. I brought it back this time because the sex was good. No her effort which was kind of off but she had a nice full figure and big tits. Her pussy was nice and wet and lips when she sucked my dick felt soft. She's 24 but is 9 out 10 on the needy scale. She wants me to buy her a dog. Her mother is sick. She needs money to eat and so on and so forth. That was my last visit her and she left her charger in my room on purpose. I paid her 300 to leave. She let me take photos but I don't know how to post them on here.

[URL]https://youtu.be/PKlpb5-FdPE?si=uZPqFafZTiNxec4m[/URL]

A Panamanian American was stabbed to death by 4 dudes Dec 9th in the Pueblo of Santa Barbara, Antioquia (roughly 2 hours drive from Medellin). They also stole his moto and his dog. The deceased had been living there for only 3 months.

For those who use the airport buses, they were recently equipped with Civica card readers. You can pay your fare (14,000 pesos) with a Civica card or cash. Assuming you keep a charged Civica, it can save you the time of visiting an ATM if you don't have cash on hand when you arrive. There is also now a Metro link but I don't have any personal experience with it. It doesn't seem that convenient if you are traveling with luggage. I think you can use it to pick up an airport bus at the Industriales station.

I was anally raped entering Medellin recently. Had no idea or warning by any airline that upon entry, anyone with a Canadian passport will be made to pay about hundred backs so called reciprocal visa fee. In effect since Nov 15. Must use credit / debit card to pay. One of the brilliant gem by the new president.

Are there any 5 or 10 year long, multiple entry TOURIST visas available for Colombia? Can't pay hundred backs every few months.

[QUOTE=Yuvaraj;2876477]I'm looking for recommendations near Mansion for incall / outcall professional massage (doesn't matter if it includes he or not) please.[/QUOTE]The mansion has someone on-call for professional massages (non-sexual). Otherwise, there are a couple professional places down Carrera 43 A as you walk towards the Santafé Mall. Google Maps is popular here, so you can use it to find places and see reviews.

[QUOTE=KeviKev68;2876573]I have tried 3 different airlines flying to Medellin: Avianca, American and JetBlue. I believe that JetBlue is has better service than the other two by far. I know I won't fly on Avianca anymore it was bad. No decent food and drinks are poor inflight entertain. Oh and rock hard seats in economy.[/QUOTE]If you upgrade to larger front seats, Spirit and Avianca seats are 1000% better than JetBlue's crappy larger seats.

Removing your hearing aids. That's a first for combating noise. ROTFL.

[QUOTE=NilAdmirari;2875856]To further clarify the noise issues at San Peter as noted by Giz99, and which do result in many short and aborted stays: Noise levels vary by floor of apartment (2 to 17), orientation (bedroom facing La 70 side of the building with its discos and bars, or the quieter Calle 42 to the rear), and whether the apartment has airport-grade windows insulated for sound. Rental price per unit tends to vary accordingly. All that said, there are a number of long term, happy campers there, myself included (a geezer who can deal with any residual Bad Bunny, Latin Trap decibels from the street below by removing his hearing aids at night).[/QUOTE]

People are definitely weird. I ran in to guys who have more than 20 trips under their belt and just keep coming back to Mansion. Don't know why or what's going on in their heads.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2875541]Only the most rookie nookie seekers should stay at that place. It sucks.[/QUOTE]

Thanks! Good to know Mansion has options!

[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;2876717]The mansion has someone on-call for professional massages (non-sexual). Otherwise, there are a couple professional places down Carrera 43 A as you walk towards the Santaf Mall. Google Maps is popular here, so you can use it to find places and see reviews.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Oterri;2876709]I was anally raped entering Medellin recently. Had no idea or warning by any airline that upon entry, anyone with a Canadian passport will be made to pay about hundred backs so called reciprocal visa fee. In effect since Nov 15. Must use credit / debit card to pay. One of the brilliant gem by the new president.

Are there any 5 or 10 year long, multiple entry TOURIST visas available for Colombia? Can't pay hundred backs every few months.[/QUOTE]You need to step back and understand this problem originates in Canada first, by them charging Colombians $100-185 Canadian for a visa to visit Canada. Colombia has enacted a reciprocal visa fee in response. I'm sure once you write to your Canadian leaders and convince them how unfair to charge such high fees to Colombian visitors is, and they remove those fees, that Colombia will subsequently remove their visa fee. What is fair is fair.

[QUOTE=Oterri;2876709]I was anally raped entering Medellin recently. Had no idea or warning by any airline that upon entry, anyone with a Canadian passport will be made to pay about hundred backs so called reciprocal visa fee. In effect since Nov 15. Must use credit / debit card to pay. One of the brilliant gem by the new president.

Are there any 5 or 10 year long, multiple entry TOURIST visas available for Colombia? Can't pay hundred backs every few months.[/QUOTE]The reciprocal thing is getting really annoying. These third world countries need to listen to Floyd Mayweather when he talks about A side and be side. When he fought delahoya Oscar was the A side and Floyd said he was the be side. It was a 65/35 split in Oscars favor. After beating him, Floyd was the A side and got the bigger cut against Manny and Connor. Colombia and Brazil are the be side and shouldn't be acting like the A side. America has tons of rich people ready to blow their money. These other countries, not so much.

[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;2876791]You need to step back and understand this problem originates in Canada first, by them charging Colombians $100-185 Canadian for a visa to visit Canada. Colombia has enacted a reciprocal visa fee in response. I'm sure once you write to your Canadian leaders and convince them how unfair to charge such high fees to Colombian visitors is, and they remove those fees, that Colombia will subsequently remove their visa fee. What is fair is fair.[/QUOTE]If Colombia wasn't full of people that scope you and kill people they might not be charged so much.

Spirit's big front seats are great. Usually you can check at check-in to see if they have any available and the upgrade fee has been reasonable, in my experience, from $25-40, which for the long flight time from Colombia to the US is very nice to have.

[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;2876718]If you upgrade to larger front seats, Spirit and Avianca seats are 1000% better than JetBlue's crappy larger seats.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Yuvaraj;2876477]I'm looking for recommendations near Mansion for incall / outcall professional massage (doesn't matter if it includes he or not) please.[/QUOTE]Mansions massage girl is named Paola. Really great massagemwith no extras is 200 K. There are several places in Rio Sur Mall that you can get professional massages, with or without extras. Also a place1 block up the hill from the Mansion, turn left 1/2 block, forget the name though.

A Canadian friend told me this was coming up. I'm not Canadian so I didn't give it another thought. I came through Bogota a few weeks ago and noticed the line in immigration for Canadians to pay the fee. One of the agents kept yelling "people with Canadian passports in this line!" Whatever the politics, to answer the original poster's question, the alternative to paying the fee each time you enter is to get a visa. A Colombian visa is different than the tourist entry stamp that you are getting now. There are various kinds of visas. The cost all in will be about US $100 and, depending on the type of visa, it will be valid for one to three years. I think it will work out to be more economical for a Canadian who visits more than once a year. There are a number of annoying bureaucratic steps but it's doable.

[QUOTE=Oterri;2876709]I was anally raped entering Medellin recently. Had no idea or warning by any airline that upon entry, anyone with a Canadian passport will be made to pay about hundred backs so called reciprocal visa fee. In effect since Nov 15. Must use credit / debit card to pay. One of the brilliant gem by the new president.

Are there any 5 or 10 year long, multiple entry TOURIST visas available for Colombia? Can't pay hundred backs every few months.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;2876718]If you upgrade to larger front seats, Spirit and Avianca seats are 1000% better than JetBlue's crappy larger seats.[/QUOTE]It's more than the seats for me. You have to bring your own food and drinks on Avianca because all you'll get it is chicken and rice and a can of soda if you're lucky. JetBlue keeps their drinks and snacks out so people can get what they want. These national legacy carriers I will include Phillipines Airlines are interested in providing quality service this is especially true if you are visitor and not a resident if you know what I mean.

I knew a bit about the phones requiring registration so made sure to buy the SIM from shopping mall and official movistar shop. They asked for my original passport and entered something in computer plus made a copy of my passport so I thought all requirements have been carried out. I left after a week and returned a few months later to find that sim 1 was not working. Well that is why I have SIm2 so I bought a second sim from movistar shop again. A few months later when I returned once again, the phone just won't work so I decided to use the second phone and foolishly bought yet another sim from Movistar.

Obviously none of the sim / imei were registered. Both phones are now blocked.

I went to main office of claro in Los Molinos. They said they can't unblock a phone blocked by movistar. Does anyone know if this true?

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Then went to main office of Movistar in same mall. Well, I was told that in order to have the phone unblocked, I need to bring in a Colombia citizen who would tetify on my behalf. What the bloody hell? I told him that I have the same passport that the SIM were registered to but he said no chance.

Is the above true or did I talk to someone who had no clue?

I am really having hard time and don't know if there is any other way of getting the phones unblocked.

Any suggestions, anyone?

Thank you for replying. I am trying to find the info about getting a Colombia tourist visa but can't find any information.

Can you please elaborate a bit how and where can one get it from, specially if applying from Canada? Thanks again.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2876803]A Canadian friend told me this was coming up. I'm not Canadian so I didn't give it another thought. I came through Bogota a few weeks ago and noticed the line in immigration for Canadians to pay the fee. One of the agents kept yelling "people with Canadian passports in this line!" Whatever the politics, to answer the original poster's question, the alternative to paying the fee each time you enter is to get a visa. A Colombian visa is different than the tourist entry stamp that you are getting now. There are various kinds of visas. The cost all in will be about US $100 and, depending on the type of visa, it will be valid for one to three years. I think it will work out to be more economical for a Canadian who visits more than once a year. There are a number of annoying bureaucratic steps but it's doable.[/QUOTE]