I guess ignorance is an excuse
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2736211]If that was the issue, a simple copy machine would have been the solution.
That goes against what Trump said. He complied with the subpoena, and the proper course for not complying with a subpoena is to enforce it in court not get an illegal warrant and do a raid.
That is just not true. Why did they put a lock on the storage shed if all the documents were gone? You are making stuff up.
LOL. It is not the paper that matters. It is the content on the paper. If it was a matter of possession, a copy machine would have sufficed. Your defense is bullshit. The FBI did not want Trump to have those documents.[/QUOTE]Copying of classified documents is strictly controlled. And not just any copy machine can be used. "§ 2400.30 Reproduction of classified information.
Documents or portions of documents and materials that contain Top Secret information shall not be reproduced without the consent of the originator or higher authority. Any stated prohibition against reproduction shall be strictly observed. Copying of documents containing classified information at any level shall be minimized. Specific reproduction equipment shall be designated for the reproduction of classified information and rules for reproduction of classified information shall be posted on or near the designated equipment. Notices prohibiting reproduction of classified information shall be posted on equipment used only for the reproduction of unclassified information. All copies of classified documents reproduced for any purpose including those incorporated in a working paper are subject to the same controls prescribed for the document from which the reproduction is made. " [URL]https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/32/2400.30[/URL].
Here's a timeline of the events.
January 2022.
The National Archives had asked Trump for some of the materials it believed had been taken from the White House and stored at Mar-a-Lago in Florida after Trump left office.
Trump turned over 15 boxes of materials taken from the White House after negotiating with officials at the National Archives in 2021.
According to officials, the boxes included personal letters and gifts Trump had received, including a congratulatory letter from former President Barack Obama.
"These records should have been transferred to NARA from the White House at the end of the Trump administration in January 2021," the National Archives said in a statement.
February 2022.
After going through the documents, the National Archives discovered what appeared to be classified information. They called on the Justice Department for guidance, according to the Times.
The agency confirmed on Feb. 18 that they found "classified national security information" among the boxes of the material turned over by Trump.
The finding raised concern among lawmakers, who started investigating through the House Committee on Oversight and Reform.
In a letter on Feb. 24, Rep. Carolyn be. Maloney, the chairwoman of the House Committee on Oversight and Reform, requested a detailed accounting from the National Archives of what was in the boxes.
April 2022.
In April, the Justice Department instructed the National Archives not to share any details about the classified materials found at Mar-a-Lago with the House Oversight Committee.
May 2022.
In early May, the Justice Department issued a subpoena to the National Archives to obtain the classified documents found within the boxes.
Spring 2022.
According to CNN, Trump aides including executive assistant Molly Michael, operations coordinator Beau Harrison, former White House staff secretary Derek Lyons, and former White House valet Walt Nauta, were interviewed by federal officials about the removal of documents to Mar-a-Lago or about their storage once brought to the resort.
June 3, 2022.
DOJ and FBI officials present a grand jury subpoena at Mar-a-Lago and are shown a storage room where boxes containing White House documents and other materials are kept.
According to The Wall Street Journal, Trump attorneys hand over documents marked as "top secret. ".
Trump attorneys also sign letter that Trump had no more classified documents at Mar-a-Lago.
June 8, 2022.
Justice Department counterintelligence chief Jay Bratt reportedly sends a request that a stronger lock be put on the storage room door and that the boxes "be preserved in that room in their current condition until further notice. "
He signs off in the letter with, "Thank you. Very truly yours, Jay Bratt, chief of counterintelligence and export control section. "
June 22,2022.
Trump receives a subpoena for surveillance footage from Mar-a-Lago, according to the Journal.
Aug. 5, 2022.
Reinhart issues a sealed search warrant for the former president's home.
Aug. 8, 2022.
FBI agents executed the search warrant at Mar-a-Lago, going through Trump's home for more than nine hours. According to reports, the agents concentrated on a bedroom, a safe, and at one point the former first lady Melania Trump's closet. The remaining boxes are removed from the storage room.
Aug. 11,2022.
Attorney General Merrick Garland holds a news conference to say that he personally approved the search of the former president's residence.
"The department does not take such a decision lightly," he said, adding, that "it is standard practice to seek less intrusive means as an alternative to a search, and to narrowly scope any search that is undertaken. " [URL]https://www.kiro7.com/news/trending/mar-a-lago-search-timeline-events-that-led-mondays-search-trumps-home/MFR6Y5GOMJEAPKWKWQSR4CV7WA/[/URL] and [URL]https://wsvn.com/news/politics/trump-lawyer-claimed-no-classified-material-was-at-mar-a-lago-in-signed-letter-to-justice-department-sources-say/[/URL].
Gee, if what I said contradicts Donnie the Dumbass, could it be that Donnie lied? Again? Maybe a better question would be "when has he ever told the truth"?
Since I previously destroyed your so-called 4th Amendment argument, I won't bother to rehash it.
You really still don't "get it". Donnie the Dumbass was never supposed to have those documents in the first place. Unless that material was innocuous and obviously personal, like a order for hamberders or a note saying the he'd like Ivanka to sit on his face, anything having to do with government should have already been turned over to NARA. Those are the rules and I have previously explained them to you and cited sources. You may not believe the sources but them's the facts!
Delicious Brownies in 52 States...
[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2735678][QUOTE=Spidy;2735512]It appears there is no need to flee America, as you've previously mentioned. As 'White Supremacists', have set up shop in Idaho. And by "set up shop", I mean "A White Supremacist Homeland" ...
Yet, to figure out, if this a good thing. I mean, with [i]all the "white supremacists" in one place[/i], doesn't it make it easier, [b]for the FBI to keep an eye on y'all?[/b]
Or are y'all think [b]the FBI will be DE-FUNDED[/b] by then?[/QUOTE] Get a clue bro. People that want to get away from all the [b][u]brownies[/u][/b] go where Bernie goes, Vermont baby![/QUOTE]
Hell yeah, if it's brownies YOU WANT, [b]I'll clue you in on the D/L.[/b] (In a low whisper...) It's not just Vermont, dude.
If you love brownies [i](and you sound like a [b]closet brownie lover[/b]),[/i] I hear brownies are found all over America, in 52 states.
That's right, no political affiliation necessary, as this very nice, sweet, moist and delicious treat, is found everywhere, in America.
Enjoy brother!
QOP / GOP Dark Money Rears it Ugly Head
Barre Seid, Secretive Tycoon Gives Record $1. 6 Billion to Fund GOP Takeover of the Courts.
[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/now/barre-seid-billionaire-donated-record-200922296.html[/URL]
ProPublica and The Lever have revealed how Barre Seid, a 90-year-old conservative industrialist from Chicago, has given his fortune to a "nonprofit" run by Leonard LEO, the co-chair of the [B]Federalist Society[/B].
[i]"You know, we believe its the [b]biggest-ever donation[/b] to a politically oriented dark money group in U.S. history"[/i].
LEO has played a key role in helping Republicans reshape the federal judiciary. He's been described as Donald Trump's "Supreme Court whisperer" for his role in pushing for the nomination of Justices Amy Coney Barrett, Brett Kavanaugh and Neil Gorsuch.
Koch brothers, DeVos/Prince families, Uihleins family, Robert Mercer and now Barre Seid (off the top of my head). Meanwhile, the only one on the left that the right-wing/alt-right can point to is George Soros.
Some members (on the right/alt-right) may want to re-think their views, on which political party [I](if we can even call the QOP/GOP a political party anymore),[/I] is it exactly that is corrupting democracy, SCOTUS and POTUS with their money.
The facists are coming for you next
They are trying to silence all dissent.
[URL]https://stormer-daily.rw/gavin-mcinnes-raided-by-feds-live-on-air-allegedly-sitting-in-jail-right-now/[/URL]
Deja vu Maos cultural revolution, circa 2022 Biden style.