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[QUOTE=Craiova;2001109]Funny these room counting and especially room targeting. The girls usually target only in money, especially at Clubs like Artemis, Palace and Ohshit where many rooms more than a fifty.[/QUOTE]Ofcourse, but the idea of room targets and average rooms (I've heard girls mention it a few times) is the same methodology as any sales person would use. Kind of like a hard sell. As opposed to the extras and tips which would be softer sells, and seen more as a bonus.
Maybe this is part of why they say sales people are the ones who understand prostitutes/escorts the most. The psychological aspect of it at least... it can be tough... at least the first years.
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More Lilia
A little over a week ago, I wrote of my fantastic encounter with Lilia at Artemis. I enjoyed her so much that I decided to spend time with her on each of the following two days I was in Berlin. I made it a point to get to Artemis! On the second visit, after I had paid my entrance and was on my way to the locker room, who do I see but Lilia! Waiting to get paid from yet another session! We spoke and were friendly, and I told her that I would see her later in the bar. After I got changed and showered and all, stepped into the party area and found her sitting at the bar with some water to drink I think it was.
Lilia was glad to see me, and I would say that we spent about 15 to 20 minutes just sitting there talking. And this is one thing that was cool about Lilia. She's not just one of these "what's your name, where are you from, do you want to go to the room" type of tutes. No, if she likes you she will take some time and interest. Not just see you as a walking ATM to be emptied out! At the same time, as a monger you need to be cool with the girl too. That means that if you're not going to take her, don't sit there and try to hog up all of her time! If you're not going to take her, then let her go and just appreciate that she spent some quality time talking to you. After all, she's there to work and needs to try to make herself presentable to somebody else if you're not going to take her.
Now by this time, I had already been fucking around Germany for virtually two weeks straight! I was tired, and felt like I just needed to take a break. So, I decided not to go with Lilia right away. Told her that I was kind of tired, but that maybe later I might want to go to the room. She was cool and understood. Gave me a little kiss on the lips, and then she was right back to standing in her spot. That's another one of the things I like about Lilia too. She's always giving me kisses on the lips LOL! At the bar. If I stop to talk to her at her spot. If she sees me standing near the stairs. Near the lockers. In the room. Everywhere, everywhere Lilia saw me she was giving me kisses! I likes that hehehe! But I digress!
After leaving Lilia to do her thing, I just sat back in one of my favorite spots to where I could watch her. I hung out for about 4 hours. You know, eating and drinking and fending off approaches and stuff. And watching Lilia. And my friends, in those 4 hours I saw her go to the room 4 times! And remember she was just finishing up a session at my arrival! That's how the hell you know it's good boys! Everybody wants to fuck that. Keeping her busy! While watching, I came to understand why some of the other girls may not like Lilia and be jealous of her. You see, there are "prancers" and "posers". Prancers are going around all the time asking men to go to the room. Most FKK tutes are prancers. But now Lilia, she's a poser. She stands in one place. And the tricks come to her! It was literally no work for her. She stands. Poses. Looks pretty. Guys come up. They go to the room. Easy LOL! I bet there are plenty of other tutes in the house who hate her guts hahahaha!
So after watching this all play out for 4 hours, I finally decided that it was "my turn", but I was still dog tired and didn't think I could fuck. German Mariam over at World told me my dick was going to fall off when I informed her of my FKK travel plans LOL! Told Lilia I just wanted a massage (she gives good ones), and we agreed on a 30 minute massage session. Massage was great, and we had plenty of time to talk about things too. Lilia told me more facts and details of her life, including that she had done a stint at World that she did not particularly like. I told her that I wanted to see her the next day, and she said cool but make sure I got there like before 4 pm or so because she would be taking some time off to go home and would not work at all the day after next. We both agreed to meet up at the club the next day around the 11 am opening time.
So, I show up at about 11:30 am, and who do I see out at the area with the safes but Lilia! We have to stop meeting like this girl LOL! She gave me a now customary kiss on the lips, and told me she had gotten there about 15 minutes earlier. I went to change and such, got some coffee at the bar, then went for some breakfast which was decent. And what was great about the club was that hardly anybody was there! Maybe less than a handful of mongers, and about the same number of girls. A nice change of pace from the madhouse nights at Artemis! One reason why I wanted to stop by earlier than I had the previous 2 days was to see what the day shift was like talent-wise. Well, as the girls started to filter in, what I found was that it was the exact same tutes you would see at night LOL! Some of those girls are pulling some long hours man!
Anyway, I decided to go with Lilia for a third time, this time intending to make sure that we fucked! Oh yeah, I got another one of her great massages, but we also fucked in multiples too. And again, her asshole was on offer, but I just didn't get to it my brothers. In my previous long report on Lilia, I explained how great her BBBJ / CIM skills were. Although still good during this session, she didn't show me the full range of her talents as she had done the first time we sessioned. For instance, she didn't do that tongue tickle thing from the bottom of my scrotum sack all the way up to the underneath of the tip of my dick like she did the first time in the room LOL! There's nothing like the first time with a new favorite right? But still, it was all good! So good in fact, that when I sperm in Lilia's mouth this time, it was an even bigger load than on our first night together! I mean, after I nutted, she had "chipmunk cheeks" trying to hold in the sperm until she could spit it out hahaha!
The session continued with massage, then more fucking, including Lilia riding me reverse-cowgirl style leaning way over so that I could see her butt hole as she worked those Teutonic butt cheeks up and down. We finished in mish with me whispering dirty nothings (well maybe it was louder than a whisper hehe) into Lilia's ear as we humped forward to another nut for me. TC! Yes, yes! Blue-eyed, blonde German Lilia! She's a real winner folks! After my third session with her, we both went back to the bar. Me to one of the couches, and her to her spot. With she Lilia steadily leaving each hour to session! Before I think she finally left around 3 pm to head home by train. I asked Lilia if her mom knew what she did. She said heavens no! And that she tried not to flash too much money around her mom, lest she become suspicious. Get it while it's available and hot my friends! We never know when the latest pretty will just disappear from the scene!
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2002734]But now Lilia, she's a poser. She stands in one place. And the tricks come to her! It was literally no work for her. She stands. Poses. Looks pretty. Guys come up. They go to the room. [/QUOTE]When at GT, she always stands at the same position. I'd say it is the area with most visibility and traffic. Basically anybody leaving locker rooms or reception area and entering the main lounge would walk past her. She seems to always be smiling and in a good mood. Inside the room as well.
I characterize her look as tomboyish. Usually she is wearing a headband or has her hair in a ponytail. I prefer the latter.
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She chooses the hairstyle that a female athlete would wear. Its practical for a WG like her who works so hard in the room that she is always sweating!
Lilia's BBBJ skills and stamina are 90th percentile. As you climax, her head continues to bounce up and down, at roughly the same speed, even after the last drop has been sucked out. Most other girls will slow up at the finish line. Or just stop moving their head and let the cum drizzle into their mouth.
The only negative is I think she gained some weight in the last year.
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[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2001140]In the recent days, some girls from World, Oase, Mainhattan told me that they are considering to move to Artemis in Berlin just because it seems they will earn more in Berlin. Artemis has very few competitors in Berlin so obviously they are attracting many customers and bring a lot of business to the girls.[/QUOTE]Got names of girls? Well, Artemis is also a big tank, so being the biggest fish in the tank can be hard unless being top girl. More girls in average than sharks even. Even if sharks has rumored to have had more on few occations.
Funny thing about Artemis girls numbers is how they go up and down like sheep flocks. From maybe 80 in a week with few girls to over 150 lately for a busy messe week. And it goes up and down like that like a jojo. Then when lots of girls are on vacation a week and everyone is making money cus only 80-90 girls, they all call their friends 'come here now! Lots of guys!'. Next week it is maybe 160 and income is cut in half. Lol lots of girls alternate between for example GT or Sharks and Artemis also. And maybe to other clubs too...they try and hit the peaks at both places... in the past it was more alternation with palace and paradise. I think personally because of HA. But less now I think. At least with palace...
Add in girls from 3 other big hessen clubs to the mix, and maybe the jojo lineup at artemis goes from 90 to 200 soon. Lol
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2002734] German Mariam over at World told me my dick was going to fall off when I informed her of my FKK travel plans LOL! [/QUOTE]Another nice report Cane. I'm in Art next week and will check her out for sure. Now my friend, you ready after your two week marathon to do a nice Club comparison report? Some possible sections:
1. Best service. 2. Best girl. 3. Best tits. 4. Best ass. 5. Best ambience in club. 6. Best food. 7. Best value for money. 8. Best rooms. 9. Best BBBJ. 10. Best FS provider. 11. Worst attitude 12. Worst club.
I could go on. Maybe we start a new annual "FKK Oscars" and you can be the first patron?
More seriously, travelling mangers find comparisons really useful. You write a good report so come on. Continue your excellent sharing of experiences with a comparisons report. Would be really good reading from someone who has been all over Germany doing this. Cheers.
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Comparisons
[QUOTE=PayForIt;2002932]Now my friend, you ready after your two week marathon to do a nice Club comparison report? Traveling mongers find comparisons really useful. Would be really good reading from someone who has been all over Germany doing this.[/QUOTE]First of all, it was nearly a three week marathon LOL! I just hit a wall at two weeks, but I sure the hell broke through that, hahaha! And second, I wlll do some kind of comparison, but it will be very, very brief. There are so many variables, and it's all so subjective.
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+100
Yes today more than 100 girls in this club. Waiting times door room. Girls making fast money. From 30 minutes. Girls giving from 10 to 15 minutes.
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Bavaria?
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2001140]In the recent days, some girls from World, Oase, Mainhattan told me that they are considering to move to Artemis in Berlin just because it seems they will earn more in Berlin. Artemis has very few competitors in Berlin so obviously they are attracting many customers and bring a lot of business to the girls.[/QUOTE]If the girls want to earn more, then why not go to the clubs in Bavaria where the tutes seemed free to upsell and up-charge on everything with no obligation to negotiate or come down on price? At least in Hamburg I could get them to negotiate the total price for hour-long sessions, whereas it was more difficult (and therefore more expensive overall) in Bavaria to do that. So, why not Bavaria where they supposedly already have the no BBBJ rule (even though the Bavarian tutes still do it for an up charge fee)?
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Hey,
Anyone knows if Cassandra (Turkey. 23 yo) is still around? Anyone see her recently?
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2003035]So, why not Bavaria where they supposedly already have the no BBBJ rule (even though the Bavarian tutes still do it for an up charge fee)?[/QUOTE]There's no extra fee for BBBJ at Colosseum, Hawaii, Heaven or Palmas.
HB.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;2003285]There's no extra fee for BBBJ at Colosseum, Hawaii, Heaven or Palmas.
HB.[/QUOTE]I went to Hawaii but did not session or speak to any girls about prices at that club. Didn't see anything I liked and would not return unless I just happened to be in the area for something, which is highly unlikely in the future.
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[QUOTE=Tcl1234;2003187]Hey,
Anyone knows if Cassandra (Turkey. 23 yo) is still around? Anyone see her recently?[/QUOTE]Yes. Ten characters needed.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;2003285]There's no extra fee for BBBJ at Colosseum, Hawaii, Heaven or Palmas.
HB.[/QUOTE]So rule is not applied and BBBJ is standard there?
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2003035]If the girls want to earn more, then why not go to the clubs in Bavaria where the tutes seemed free to upsell and up-charge on everything with no obligation to negotiate or come down on price? At least in Hamburg I could get them to negotiate the total price for hour-long sessions, whereas it was more difficult (and therefore more expensive overall) in Bavaria to do that. So, why not Bavaria where they supposedly already have the no BBBJ rule (even though the Bavarian tutes still do it for an up charge fee)?[/QUOTE]They go to Zurich where all are inclusive with higher set price, and Zurich is where we mongers will go as alternate destination if German FKK girls begin to charge for BBBJ after July.
Or we can goto Austria too.
At least we got solution for this BBBJ issue.
Personally I will goto Zurich as price will be same if they begin to up-sell in German FKK for BBBJ. Where as Zurich serviced in guaranteed by the club.
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[QUOTE=MrHo;2004220]They go to Zurich where all are inclusive with higher set price, and Zurich is where we mongers will go as alternate destination if German FKK girls begin to charge for BBBJ after July. Or we can goto Austria too.[/QUOTE]All the girls won't be able to flock to Zurich, and especially Globe. Many simply can't consistently stand up to the pressure of providing consistently high service day in and day out. I think Austria is a more suitable destination for most.