[QUOTE=Pistons;1940528]Or a new trick with using a torn condom during BBBJ. Wonder how the police would act on that excuse. [/QUOTE]Brilliant! Haha.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1940528]Or a new trick with using a torn condom during BBBJ. Wonder how the police would act on that excuse. [/QUOTE]Brilliant! Haha.
Ok, I am having some difficulties reading the first two parts here, but the 3rd one only talks about chance of pregnancy (which should leave out BBBJ's):
H) 32 Absatz 3 Nummer 1 und 2 wird durch die folgenden Nummern 1 bis 3 ersetzt:
1. Unter Hinweis auf die Gelegenheit zum Geschlechtsverkehr ohne Kon-.
Dom, auch wenn der Hinweis in mittelbarer oder sprachlich verdeckter.
Form erfolgt, 2. In einer Weise, die nach Art der Darstellung, nach Inhalt oder Umfang.
Oder nach Art des Trgermediums und seiner Verbreitung geeignet ist.
Schutzbedrftige Rechtsganother site der Allgemeinheit, insbesondere den Ju-.
Gendschutz, konkret zu beeintrchtigen oder.
3. unter Hinweis auf die Gelegenheit zum Geschlechtsverkehr mit Schwan-.
Geren, auch wenn der Hinweis in mittelbarer oder sprachlich verdeckter.
Form erfolgt. ".
So if anyone native to Germany wants to translate this, it would be great:).
http://www.bundesrat.de/SharedDocs/drucksachen/2016/0401-0500/457-16.pdf?__blob=publicationFile&v=1
Found the link in that Independent article.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1940519]You can get fined 50.000 EUR for BBBJ. Theoretically. Don't think it will ever happen.
HB.[/QUOTE]If anybody here (or anywhere) intends to disobey the no BBBJ law, then it probably would not be a good idea to talk about it too much openly here. That might only invite or challenge LE to try to get "tough" and attempt to make some arrests and examples of some select poor mongers. If there shall be disobedience, then let it be done underground and silently acknowledged behind the scenes.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1940519]You can get fined 50.000 EUR for BBBJ. Theoretically. Don't think it will ever happen.
HB.[/QUOTE]LOL! Yes! Much cheaper! As in $0 !
So this doesn't come into force until July 2017 ? Time to plan a trip!
[QUOTE=Pistons;1940543]Ok, I am having some difficulties reading the first two parts here, but the 3rd one only talks about chance of pregnancy (which should leave out BBBJ's): [/QUOTE]The 1st rule prohibits any advertising of sex without condom in any way including any covert terms, like "special French", "French total" or using asterix like "be*BJ".
The 2nd rule I don't understand completely. It states that your advertisement must not endanger any object that is in special need of protection by law, EG. Youths. But it can actually mean anything like decent code of conduct, moral etc. In the end they can disallow anything the public finds offensive or scandalous.
The 3rd rule does not deal with the risk of getting pregnant. It actually prohibits advertising sex with pregnant women.
Google translate attempt:
H) 32 paragraph 3, point 1 and 2 is replaced by the following paragraphs 1 to 3:
"1. Having regard to the opportunity to have sexual intercourse without con-.
Dom, even if the reference in indirect or covert language.
Form occurs; 2. In a way that the type of representation, by content or scope.
Or is suitable to the type of carrier medium and its distribution.
Vulnerable legal interests of the public, especially the young people.
Quietly protection, specifically affecting or.
3. Recalling the opportunity to have sexual intercourse with pregnancy.
Geren, even if the reference in indirect or covert language.
Mold. ".
Google got to hate how these legal texts are written. It is clear that condoms will be required to protect against pregnancy. But does it state that it should be on at all interactions? Even if oral is defined as sex in Germany, does this paragraph really define this condom requirement around 'sex'? All black and white?
[QUOTE=Pistons;1940587]
Google got to hate how these legal texts are written. It is clear that condoms will be required to protect against pregnancy. But does it state that it should be on at all interactions? Even if oral is defined as sex in Germany, does this paragraph really define this condom requirement around 'sex'? All black and white?[/QUOTE]In my opinion. Yes, with certainty, condoms for BJ will be required. The aim of these laws is not to protect girls. The aim of the laws is to attack the sex industry. Knowing that BBBJ is such a big part of what makes Germany an international sex tourism location, they will certainly ban it. This will also be a popular change with the girls I'd imagine, unless their business drops off.
The few girls I have talked to about this hates it. Especially those who offer CIM. And their income will deffinately fall... one girl even said, 'who cares? we can still do owo and cim'
But ofcourse you are right regarding the aim of the law, the moral facists (feminists) doesnt like liberty... then again, are you fluent in german, or just talking on behalf of what you think?
Price for BBBJ will go up then, maybe less guys then at german FKK. Whole P6 scene in Germany can change registeration for street and apartement hookers most likely more problem than for club girls. So maybe less offer at apartements and on streets similar maybe for escort sector.
For fine I don't see police or other organsations as a real threat. I'm more concerned about the temptation for the girls for blackmail the guys.
I haven't read the latest version in total of this around 120 pages law. Does anyone know if there is still the new rule included for separation of working and sleeping room. Is this still the case than large parts of RLD and apartement P6 will disappear bc can't afford rent for two rooms.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1940501]At Finca, BBBJ and DFK for 50/30 mn, no upsell from fresh Romanian beauties.[/QUOTE]Also BBBJ and DFK for standard services, at Prestige Neunkirchen close to Sarrebrucken, and many girls ex Prestige, work at Paradise Sarrebrucken.
[QUOTE=Craiova;1940599]
For fine I don't see police or other organsations as a real threat. I'm more concerned about the temptation for the girls for blackmail the guys.
I haven't read the latest version in total of this around 120 pages law. Does anyone know if there is still the new rule included for separation of working and sleeping room. Is this still the case than large parts of RLD and apartement P6 will disappear bc can't afford rent for two rooms.[/QUOTE]Blackmail then could happen even if you didn't do BBBJ. It's her word against yours. I doubt it. But we will see. Many clubs already have locks for the doors. And there will be no police or undercover agents visiting the clubs and opening doors while you are in a session.
AFAIK the separation of working and sleeping rooms is off the table.
HB.
For foreign visitors from outside Schengen the consequence of an offence could be denial of entry to Germany ( and even all Schengen countries) when passport is scanned. I don't know the intricacies of Police border control and what sort of offence will be shown on the Police screen. This like everything else will only become apparent well after the law is implemented.
With the rise of populist politics such things could well happen
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1940682]Blackmail then could happen even if you didn't do BBBJ. It's her word against yours.[/QUOTE]In order to convince anybody, evidence is needed. How will blackmailing fly if there is no evidence?
It's all a question of how this will be enforced. How will law enforcement obtain evidance? How will they be able to bust anybody without evading anybody's privacy? How the law dictates what kind of investigation is allowed or not.
One way I can think of is under cover as patrons or service providers.
A question I have is will the service providers or club management be liable?
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1940779]In order to convince anybody, evidence is needed. How will blackmailing fly if there is no evidence?
It's all a question of how this will be enforced. How will law enforcement obtain evidance? How will they be able to bust anybody without evading anybody's privacy? How the law dictates what kind of investigation is allowed or not.
One way I can think of is under cover as patrons or service providers.
A question I have is will the service providers or club management be liable?[/QUOTE]Female cops as service providers? LOL.
They will have provide BBBJ and film it in order to obtain evidence so I rly doubt this wud work.
Service providers will not be liable hence I doubt the club will be as well. Only our fellow force users will be punished for this stupid law by the evil empire.