Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=Somewhere15]Very soon I hope to be back in Bangkok and also I hope that the political turmoil is rested as well.

Today I heard that Grant Hyatt will be closed for some days.

My favourite bars/disco are always Sheraton/Lu, Conrad/87, Hyatt/Spasso, Novotel/CM2 and after standard closing time also Spicy, Bossy and Boss.

Hope that some of you can give me an update how it was during the last days in one or more of these locations. Are they effected/down or....business as usual?[/QUOTE]
See: [url]http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hrELLmLT354u1ruuAvJu-EHC6CFgD9F78P980[/url]

[QUOTE=Genghois]Thanks for the great info, Natty. Nice to know that the Baccara girls are willing to negotiate down from the 2000/4000 rule.

Also thanks to whoever posted on negotiating down on prices at Tilac (can't seem to find the post, now).

Great to know that the ladies are willing to negotiate down from the standard (and outrageous) fee, in slow times.

On another note, can anyone recommend a laundry service in the lower Suk area? I hate paying hotel laundry prices.

Nine more days...[/QUOTE]The laundry service that I use is on Sukhumvit Soi 11 on the left side (when walking from the Sky Train towards the Grand President), just past the Grand President Hotel. You will see a big sign that says "Laundry" :)

[QUOTE=Genghois]
On another note, can anyone recommend a laundry service in the lower Suk area? I hate paying hotel laundry prices.[/QUOTE]

on Soi 4 well past NEP there are 2

one on the left side, and one on the right in a massage parlor
these are the cheapest I found in Suk

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo]While I was in Thailand over February & March 2010: I was quoted 1500bt for short time romp from 4 of Baccara's prettiest girls. I did not negotiate. I liked the girls and they all showed me a good time. I did repeats with two of the four [Mimi and A].

Total price (900bt barfine + 1500bt service) was 2400bt. I tipped the girls and bought more drinks afterwards. IMHO Baccara this year was better than ever in terms of numbers, quality and service. One thing I did observe was that my girls did not go back on stage for the rest of the night after we returned to the bar. They drank and entertained me and then left to go home when I left the bar. Also, and this may or may not be BS, but both Mimi and A told me they were going to school taking classes in computers and hair styling. Good for them.[/QUOTE]Thank You for your reply.

Sorry, a bit confused about the prices you quoted.

(900 barfine +1500bhtservice) was 2400 bht.

Was 1500bht for both girls, or one at a time?

900 barfine for both, or for one?

Last year barfines were 600bht per girl.

The girls upstairs were the prettiest and the hardest to negotiate.

Went to Climax Nightclub last night and found this gem. Her name is Meilee and was there with some girlfriends. I ended up hooking up with her, danced and then came back to my place. She ended up spending the night and we never talked about money. In the morning, she just got dressed, hooked me up with her mobile number and took off for work. Had I know that you could work girls like this for free, I would have been in there everynight!

God I love Thailand!

[QUOTE=Phuquer]The laundry service that I use is on Sukhumvit Soi 11 on the left side (when walking from the Sky Train towards the Grand President), just past the Grand President Hotel. You will see a big sign that says "Laundry" :)[/QUOTE]

They're all over the place on the sois... there's another on soi 11, for example, as you walk from suk, look to the left next to the 7/11... but really, just walk around the neighborhood you're staying in and you will surely see a sign for laundry.

I met this amazing anal princess on the last night of my trip to Bangkok on April 13 accross Soi Nana near the twin orange ATMs. I asked for anal and she said sure for 1000 baht. She took me to a nearby ST hotel for 300 baht and we went at it for over 1 hour in all 3 holes. She wrote down her phone number & email on my map but I lost it before returning home.

Thanks to everyone on this forum who helped make finding girls like this easy! I hope to return to Bangkok soon!

aloha, SL

[QUOTE=Blkanjil]Went to Climax Nightclub last night and found this gem...Had I know that you could work girls like this for free, I would have been in there everynight!

God I love Thailand![/QUOTE]

Ah yes, the coveted freebie. Well done sir - enjoy your freebie, and rest assured that it will be repeated, if you choose to go that route in the future. If I may say, you are obviously a talented monger (odd thing to say, but true), and far be it for me to advise you, but I will nonetheless. Humbly, of course.

In my experience, freebies are great, but they are rarely (if ever) truly free. There are complications associated with the freebie, and so long as you are aware of said complications and willing to deal with them, more power to you. I have no doubt that you can handle yourself pretty well, I just thought you might want to think about these possibilities before you pursue this cutie (and she is indeed a cutie) any further.

[b]A (non-exhaustive) list of potential complications:[/b]
1. She now expects reciprocation for the freebie in the form of dinner, movie, followed by another night of excellent sex. This is a simple commercial exchange - her goods for your money and good company. In my mind, this is only fair, and this is how it works in most western countries too - you meet the girl, do dinner, drinks, movies, etc. and then you get to bed the lady.

2. Cutie calls you one evening expecting dinner and a hook up when you had your heart set on a romp in Soi Cowboy. You must decide whether to sever the relationship here, or give up your gogo escapades. If this happens once, it ain't bad, but once it becomes a regular thing, man, that can be a drag.

3. You waltz into Climax thinking you are the boss of your own world, and before you know it, cutie jumps out of the throngs of girls and smothers you all night. No chance of hooking up with the dozens of other juicy treats on display. That's a real buzz kill.

4. You eventually manage to break it off with her, but the word has spread that you are 'bad man', and jai dam, and all the other bs. So girls are now staying away from you - a girls' club boycott, if you will. This only lasts a short while, since the allure of your untapped cash will eventually lure someone out of the boycott. But it's a pain in the ass while it lasts.

5. Cutie starts to turn the screw on you, i.e., she's cultivating you for a long term sponsorship, or wedding, or whatever. This means she will become more and more cloying. You can certainly handle this, but it requires being somewhat cold hearted, and running the risk of a girls' club boycott (see 4 above).

All of this is just annoyance to a skilled player such as yourself, but such annoyances can indeed be sapping after a while. So my advise to you is actually quite simple: avoid the freebie, no matter how tempting it might be, unless you wish to stay with this girl (semi-monogomously) for an extended period of time.

My simple rule: you play, I pay. This keeps it all super simple. No one expects anything that has not been explicitly discussed. If money changes hands, once that door slams behind her in the morning, your obligations to her are done. You could still pursue her for the occasional re-do, but she has not right to insist that you are hers, and so no girls' club boycott may ensue, nor may she call you jai dam, since you indeed fulfilled your end of the bargain.

I did exactly what you did several times when I first started plying the fair seas of Bangkok, only to learn that in the long run it is not really worth it. So my current practice is this: After a night of superb sex, with not a word of compensation being uttered, in the morning while she is in the bathroom, I slip whatever I think she deserves into her purse where she will clearly see it. I put the cash ontop of everything else so she can't miss it. I sometimes place it under her cell phone if it is out on a table somewhere.

The girls are skilled enough to know how to deal with this. Sometimes I get a call back a few hours later thanking me for the money, which is cool, but I don't expect it. But crucially, we are all on the same wave-length - you paid for the service, and are not under any further obligation, unless you so wish.

Good luck to you, and I look forward to your future reports, hopefully as excellent as your recent reports have been.

[QUOTE=Sushilover808]I met this amazing anal princess on the last night of my trip to Bangkok on April 13 accross Soi Nana near the twin orange ATMs. I asked for anal and she said sure for 1000 baht. She took me to a nearby ST hotel for 300 baht and we went at it for over 1 hour in all 3 holes. She wrote down her phone number & email on my map but I lost it before returning home.

Thanks to everyone on this forum who helped make finding girls like this easy! I hope to return to Bangkok soon!

aloha, SL[/QUOTE]

Nice work sushilover......

[QUOTE=Kumbu]

There are complications associated with the freebie, and so long as you are aware of said complications and willing to deal with them, more power to you. I have no doubt that you can handle yourself pretty well, I just thought you might want to think about these possibilities before you pursue this cutie (and she is indeed a cutie) any further.[/QUOTE]
Nothing complicated here. Keep banging her until she asks for money. When/if she does, drop her. Easy enough. Don't buy into this crap that freebies aren't free! If you got laid and didn't pay for it that is FREE!

[QUOTE=Jojosun](900 barfine +1500bhtservice) was 2400 bht. Was 1500bht for both girls, or one at a time? 900 barfine for both, or for one? Last year barfines were 600bht per girl.[/QUOTE]2400bt was the price (barfine and service) per Baccara girl, short time. I should also add that unless your hotel is nearby, the short time hotel room is an extra 300bt. I took Mimi and A out separately on different nights when I knew that the other girl was not coming in. I wonder what the barfine would be for 2 girls? Probably 1800bt.

The increased barfine occurred sometime in late '08 and has been discussed on the forum. No one likes it, but what are you going to do if you want a Baccara girl. Everyone has different thoughts on this and price ceilings. (I avoided the barfine on subsequent dates by hooking up with the girls in the afternoon.) But, for me personally, it's worth the extra 300bt as long as I am very, very physically attracted to the girl and she has a good attitude. Again it’s just my opinion, but the only other bar in BKK that has this level of quality is Rainbow 4. This year, however, I noticed something was off and there were not as many hot ones in Rainbow 4 as previous years. I barfined only one Rainbow girl this year but she was a stunner. So Nana may be in decline. I don’t know.
[QUOTE=Jojosun]The girls upstairs were the prettiest and the hardest to negotiate.[/QUOTE]Well that just goes to show you we all have different tastes and preferences. Only one of the 4 girls I barfined out of Baccara was a upstairs schoolgirl. Her name was Tom. At first I was not that sure about her, but I called her over. She looked very young, but told me she was 20. I bought her a drink and over the course of our little tête-à-tête; she got me hard. She was a pretty little thing, no question, but not as hot as Mimi, my favorite of the trip. One shift of upstairs girls always go topless and none of them are wearing underwear. So there appears to be more heat being generated upstairs if you know what I mean. But if you put my feet to the fire, I would say the best looking girls were downstairs.

[QUOTE=Kumbu]Ah yes, the coveted freebie. Well done sir - enjoy your freebie, and rest assured that it will be repeated, if you choose to go that route in the future. If I may say, you are obviously a talented monger (odd thing to say, but true), and far be it for me to advise you, but I will nonetheless. Humbly, of course.

In my experience, freebies are great, but they are rarely (if ever) truly free. There are complications associated with the freebie, and so long as you are aware of said complications and willing to deal with them, more power to you. I have no doubt that you can handle yourself pretty well, I just thought you might want to think about these possibilities before you pursue this cutie (and she is indeed a cutie) any further.

[b]A (non-exhaustive) list of potential complications:[/b]
1. She now expects reciprocation for the freebie in the form of dinner, movie, followed by another night of excellent sex. This is a simple commercial exchange - her goods for your money and good company. In my mind, this is only fair, and this is how it works in most western countries too - you meet the girl, do dinner, drinks, movies, etc. and then you get to bed the lady.

2. Cutie calls you one evening expecting dinner and a hook up when you had your heart set on a romp in Soi Cowboy. You must decide whether to sever the relationship here, or give up your gogo escapades. If this happens once, it ain't bad, but once it becomes a regular thing, man, that can be a drag.

3. You waltz into Climax thinking you are the boss of your own world, and before you know it, cutie jumps out of the throngs of girls and smothers you all night. No chance of hooking up with the dozens of other juicy treats on display. That's a real buzz kill.

4. You eventually manage to break it off with her, but the word has spread that you are 'bad man', and jai dam, and all the other bs. So girls are now staying away from you - a girls' club boycott, if you will. This only lasts a short while, since the allure of your untapped cash will eventually lure someone out of the boycott. But it's a pain in the ass while it lasts.

5. Cutie starts to turn the screw on you, i.e., she's cultivating you for a long term sponsorship, or wedding, or whatever. This means she will become more and more cloying. You can certainly handle this, but it requires being somewhat cold hearted, and running the risk of a girls' club boycott (see 4 above).

All of this is just annoyance to a skilled player such as yourself, but such annoyances can indeed be sapping after a while. So my advise to you is actually quite simple: avoid the freebie, no matter how tempting it might be, unless you wish to stay with this girl (semi-monogomously) for an extended period of time.

My simple rule: you play, I pay. This keeps it all super simple. No one expects anything that has not been explicitly discussed. If money changes hands, once that door slams behind her in the morning, your obligations to her are done. You could still pursue her for the occasional re-do, but she has not right to insist that you are hers, and so no girls' club boycott may ensue, nor may she call you jai dam, since you indeed fulfilled your end of the bargain.

I did exactly what you did several times when I first started plying the fair seas of Bangkok, only to learn that in the long run it is not really worth it. So my current practice is this: After a night of superb sex, with not a word of compensation being uttered, in the morning while she is in the bathroom, I slip whatever I think she deserves into her purse where she will clearly see it. I put the cash ontop of everything else so she can't miss it. I sometimes place it under her cell phone if it is out on a table somewhere.

The girls are skilled enough to know how to deal with this. Sometimes I get a call back a few hours later thanking me for the money, which is cool, but I don't expect it. But crucially, we are all on the same wave-length - you paid for the service, and are not under any further obligation, unless you so wish.

Good luck to you, and I look forward to your future reports, hopefully as excellent as your recent reports have been.[/QUOTE]I live in the " Free World" and seem to be ok at it. Freebies in Jakarta, Bali Manila HK and Bangkok being my specialty. I dont see any of these problems as reported.
Will be in Manila this weekend and will start my trip with a virgin. And of course.. FREE.

[QUOTE=Amjeck]Nothing complicated here. Keep banging her until she asks for money. When/if she does, drop her. Easy enough. Don't buy into this crap that freebies aren't free! If you got laid and didn't pay for it that is FREE![/QUOTE]
Yes, yes, of course you are right, Amjeck, but I think you might be mistaking Kumbu for someone like yourself, who can drop any girl you’ve fucked for free without the slightest feelings of regret or remorse.

Kumbu strikes me as the sort of guy who absolutely loves, and genuinely LIKES women – especially the ones he has befriended and fucked for free – so he might have a bit of difficulty emotionally employing your methods with those ladies. I know I would too. It can get complicated.

What he said about the price one pays for freebies is all true in my experience as well. It’s a pity that we’re not satisfied with only one woman and a shame that we have to suffer our mongering experiences with a human heart and conscience attached, which causes us to actually have feelings for our conquests.

So we think that it is good policy to give our “freebies” money right from the start, so that when we want to flutter away to the next prospect, at least we can rationalize that there was some quid pro quo. If we don’t do that, there are consequences to face of the sort Kumbu described. I’ve been there a few times. I have problems dropping even hookers. Call me soft hearted but that’s the way it is.

[QUOTE=Sushilover808]I met this amazing anal princess on the last night of my trip to Bangkok on April 13 accross Soi Nana near the twin orange ATMs. I asked for anal and she said sure for 1000 baht. She took me to a nearby ST hotel for 300 baht and we went at it for over 1 hour in all 3 holes. She wrote down her phone number & email on my map but I lost it before returning home.

Thanks to everyone on this forum who helped make finding girls like this easy! I hope to return to Bangkok soon!

aloha, SL[/QUOTE]

Good man Sushilover,
Thanks for the Asian gaper; such a rarity and a treat.
You've inspired me to share a 500 baht Phuket yawner:

Is that really necessary?

Barfbag