Kyiv

[QUOTE=Ronaldinjo;1271754]Thank you uke boy, you are wright about gia, a way too expensive for what you get. Maybe we should give more chance to mamba, although its risky and time consuming. What about bordhels that "you and me" advertised recently? Have somebody or you been there? Is it possible to find really attractive girls there? (8s or 9s). Prices range from 800-1000 / h[/QUOTE]I do stop by these brothels from time to time when it moves me. Most of them you can see on top-models when a lot of "girl friends" are also listed.

You go in and see who is available. Again, the available ladies at that apartment are in front of you. If someone strikes you and she provides the services you want at the price you want, you go with her. If not, you leave, no harm done and move on to the next place. Like anything else, it is all hit or miss but at least you can assess the lady on the spot. You can have great sex as I did once with a 19 year old, cumming in her ass three times in two hours. Unfortunately she completely disappeared two days later when I wanted a return visit. That is the real problem, there is a lot of turnover in ladies. Other times, the sex can be ordinary and even almost boring, but don't forget it is still sex.

Life itself is risky and time consuming. If you want guarantees for everything that you do such as mamba ladies or salon ladies, and who you will meet, then get a wife and live with her and see no one else. That is your only guarantee. If you want to experiment and enjoy the hunt as I do, I sometimes succeeding wildly, with other times walking away just shaking my head wondering why. However, all these events and ladies, good and bad, are ultimately something I will look upon later in life with sheer pleasure at all the memories. My biggest regret would be not taking these chances and opportunities and experiencing everything possible.

[QUOTE=Blonde Addict;1271740]Sure I am here another week, and could use more contacts, particularly I like the young lean blonde ones, that provide good service, have any of those?[/QUOTE]Let me sent you a couple of links from mamba. Need to warn you that I did not check them yet.) But at least you will have phone # and prices that you going to like.)

[QUOTE=Blonde Addict;1271740]Sure I am here another week, and could use more contacts, particularly I like the young lean blonde ones, that provide good service, have any of those?[/QUOTE]Sorry you don't have PM set up. I can't sent you message.

[QUOTE=Uke Boy; 1271827]I do stop by these brothels from time to time when it moves me. Most of them you can see on top-models when a lot of "girl friends" are also listed.

You can have great sex as I did once with a 19 year old, cumming in her ass three times in two hours. Unfortunately she completely disappeared two days later when I wanted a return visit. That is the real problem, there is a lot of turnover in ladies.[/QUOTE]Great reports Uke Boy as they have been for several years. I do think that you have left us a clue on why the 19 year old completely disappeared after your anal attention being in need for significant recovery time. Probably frightened the girl half to death and she headed either to her home village or a nunnery. .

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I've been reading on this site for about 5 years, never posted or anything but that will soon change guaranteed. I have mogered in Sri Lanka, Costa Rica, Colombia, Senegal, Johannesburg, Addis Ababa (My Goodness love that place) and Canada. Never had any issues. I normally get freebies through Facebook, twitter and Myspace. In no way am I bragging, so don't get into your feelings please. But now that I'm here in Kiev and will be here for quite some time, I must say this place is a different beast. First, we all know the difficulties here in EE and Kiev for black men and yes I heard it all before. I have yet to go to any of these saloons, bars, clubs and parlors due to the fact that I hate getting somewhere to be turned away, I, e shooters club (from what I have read. I am in decent shape african american mid 30's. I normally travel to countries on my own because my friends tend to be broke, married, depressed, hate flying and still broke. LOL. With that being said this is definitely a place I could use some advice from you guys. I have read post back 20 pages or so. Are there specific places here in Kiev where a brother can actually go into without being hit with the so called "face control and pick up quality women". Unlike western europe, this is a different atmosphere. I have read Mamba or flirt but at the same time guys want to get out and see the talent. If anyone is willing to go the extra mile and show me around then that would be appreciated gladly. Thanks for the advice on this one fellas.

[QUOTE=Blonde Addict;1271691]Well I had been here 10 years ago when married and I went the GIA route. This time I am divorced and decided to mine the single date sites first like ukrianedate. Com and wonderfulove. Ru maybe looking for something serious. I had 25 beautiful prospects, some in the 10 category. I stayed at Kiev apartments in the center, great location, but there is one problem I shall tell you about later.[/QUOTE]Good report BA. Playing the long game with non-P4P girls is definitely a lottery, but it basically comes down to showing them that you're serious and not just around to get laid once or twice. Of course you can get lucky and meet a girl who just wants to get screwed, but that doesn't happen often. You're definitely right about the Sex Tourist paranoia.

You seem to have done a pretty good tour of the city in terms of bars. I guess for other newbies to Kiev, they breakdown into three types:

1) P4P bars. These are places like Buddha Bar, where the drinks are London prices, the girls are London prices and the service is usually very average.

2) Semi P4P bars. D'Lux, which is my personal favourite stomping ground, Barsky, Shooters, Caribbean club. D'Lux is obviously crazy expensive, but the girls are better and cheaper than Rio. Shooters in mostly students and some slightly older girls looking to make some quick money.

3) Non-P4P bars. Sori Babushka, Dockers etc, where you might pull (if you have game in Russian) , but you won't buy a honey for the night (or at least, I couldn't).

Then you've obviously got the strip clubs, which are a good place to start your night, not end it.

I hope you have a successful 2nd week

[QUOTE=BlackMagic777;1271875]I've been reading on this site for about 5 years, never posted or anything but that will soon change guaranteed. I have mogered in Sri Lanka, Costa Rica, Colombia, Senegal, Johannesburg, Addis Ababa (My Goodness love that place) and Canada. Never had any issues. I normally get freebies through Facebook, twitter and Myspace. In no way am I bragging, so don't get into your feelings please. But now that I'm here in Kiev and will be here for quite some time, I must say this place is a different beast. First, we all know the difficulties here in EE and Kiev for black men and yes I heard it all before. I have yet to go to any of these saloons, bars, clubs and parlors due to the fact that I hate getting somewhere to be turned away, I, e shooters club (from what I have read. I am in decent shape african american mid 30's. I normally travel to countries on my own because my friends tend to be broke, married, depressed, hate flying and still broke. LOL. With that being said this is definitely a place I could use some advice from you guys. I have read post back 20 pages or so. Are there specific places here in Kiev where a brother can actually go into without being hit with the so called "face control and pick up quality women". Unlike western europe, this is a different atmosphere. I have read Mamba or flirt but at the same time guys want to get out and see the talent. If anyone is willing to go the extra mile and show me around then that would be appreciated gladly. Thanks for the advice on this one fellas.[/QUOTE]. So, mr black magic you seek for advice here on Kiev forum? You say you have mongered in all them place you mention yet you only have the 2 posts, strange? Well you went back 20 pages so maybe go back another 20, then another 20, then. Get the picture? Read the forum.

[QUOTE=BlackMagic777;1271875]I've been reading on this site for about 5 years, never posted or anything but that will soon change guaranteed. I have mogered in Sri Lanka, Costa Rica, Colombia, Senegal, Johannesburg, Addis Ababa (My Goodness love that place) and Canada. Never had any issues. I normally get freebies through Facebook, twitter and Myspace. In no way am I bragging, so don't get into your feelings please. But now that I'm here in Kiev and will be here for quite some time, I must say this place is a different beast. First, we all know the difficulties here in EE and Kiev for black men and yes I heard it all before. I have yet to go to any of these saloons, bars, clubs and parlors due to the fact that I hate getting somewhere to be turned away, I, e shooters club (from what I have read. I am in decent shape african american mid 30's. I normally travel to countries on my own because my friends tend to be broke, married, depressed, hate flying and still broke. LOL. With that being said this is definitely a place I could use some advice from you guys. I have read post back 20 pages or so. Are there specific places here in Kiev where a brother can actually go into without being hit with the so called "face control and pick up quality women". Unlike western europe, this is a different atmosphere. I have read Mamba or flirt but at the same time guys want to get out and see the talent. If anyone is willing to go the extra mile and show me around then that would be appreciated gladly. Thanks for the advice on this one fellas.[/QUOTE]Atmosphere in Ukraine or EE for that matter is not the same as Western Europe but It is not that bad eigher. I have seen black guys in Bacardi, Budha bar, Patipa and a few more (I cannot remember the name.) Only once I noticed two local guys making inappropriate gestures at two black men buth they were approached and warned by the bouncers and later removed. I have never been to shooters so I cannot comment.

If you dress decently and behave decently, I think you should not have any problems.

If you are living in Kiev than you should be able to accompany yuor workmates or local friends.

[QUOTE=BlackMagic777;1271875]With that being said this is definitely a place I could use some advice from you guys. I have read post back 20 pages or so. Are there specific places here in Kiev where a brother can actually go into without being hit with the so called "face control and pick up quality women".[/QUOTE]I would not worry about face control in Kiev as long as you are well dressed and do not present yourself as an "ugly American". Face control is a true problem in Moscow. Apparently, the doorman at Pacha nightclub did not appreciate my 40 year old ass with thinning hair and small pasta belly.

[QUOTE=How14;1271920]. So, mr black magic you seek for advice here on Kiev forum? You say you have mongered in all them place you mention yet you only have the 2 posts, strange? Well you went back 20 pages so maybe go back another 20, then another 20, then. Get the picture? Read the forum.[/QUOTE]So Mr How14. How about you go back a nd read my first line where I clearly stated."I never posted or anything". Report back to me when you're done.

Thanks Climax and Gobal for the kind response and info.

This might be a very stupid question and for that I have to ask for your forgiveness beforehand.

When you quote rates of $100 per hour or $200 for the night, do you actually pay the girls in US dollars or local currency.

I have never paid girls in anything but local currency, but since all the quotes are in dollars I am starting to wonder.

USD, Euro or local, doesn't matter.

I usually base my exchange rate on 8. 0. I don't track Euros.

[QUOTE=Delta Indigo; 1272310]This might be a very stupid question and for that I have to ask for your forgiveness beforehand.

When you quote rates of $100 per hour or $200 for the night, do you actually pay the girls in US dollars or local currency.

I have never paid girls in anything but local currency, but since all the quotes are in dollars I am starting to wonder.[/QUOTE]

Lj is the only one who have been there. Did someone else been there? How is the quality there, is it possible to shag some 9s (real 9s) there? Lj, what do you think?

Hello buddy, what do you think about Dall club? Did someone else been there? How is the quality there, is it possible to shag some 9s (real 9s) there? Lj, what do you think? And what about mamba girl that you shaged your last trip? Did the the same girl on the pictures appeared or pics were fake?

With respect,

Ronaldinjo