Angeles City

[QUOTE=Ekspat; 1235081]Hehe, remember this post? It was a complete failure. Of course the temptation of AC was finally too much, I took the flight.

Having a good time here, as usual Pony Tails for afternoon is nice, but remember the former German restaurant Edelweiss? Very nearby. It's now a Korean owned girlie-bar, the line-up is pretty good IMHO. Worth to have a look at.

What surprised me, many hotels have vacancies, even supposed to be highest season now. Strange, fanancial crisis everywhere.

Happy New Year every1.[/QUOTE]LOL AC is like Hotel California. Have fun

[QUOTE=Ezinho;1223130]Valhalla: Only good think is happy hour is long, from 2pm-10pm. 60 peso beers.[/QUOTE]Nope, happy hour in Valhalla ends at 7pm, just saw it today.

Latest HH I've seen is in Brown Sugar until 9pm.

Cheers!

[QUOTE=Mc Don; 1235086]LOL AC is like Hotel California.[/quote]Indeed, it is.

[QUOTE=Mc Don;1235086]Have fun[/QUOTE]No worries, hehe. You around these days? PM or txt me.

[QUOTE=PIpimp;1234995]I HATE the topic of tipping. NOONE can tell me how much to tip.[/QUOTE]PIP: Tried to send this in Private Message, but you don't have PM (yet). Welcome to the board. None of us are telling anyone else what to tip. Several of us have said what we DO tip. And there is legitimate discussion of whether the tip is a good idea. We keep saying this: to each his own tip.

[QUOTE=PIpimp;1234995]If I want to tip a girl 3,000 peso it's MY business.[/QUOTE]Doubt anyone with a semblance of a mathematical brain would agree with that. Of course its your biz, but its also THE NEXT GUY's biz. If you tip a girl 3000, who's normal take from your barfine is 750, then you are driving up either price, expectation, or both. Same applies to me when I tip p50. Adding extra money into the equation in a system where its not expected (such as asia, where she understands that her 750 is all-inclusive) will change future price / expectation. Adding such money in a system where its expected (westernized countries) does nothing. If everybody tipped her p3000, she will make 6 months salary in just one month (untaxed, on tips alone).

[QUOTE=PIpimp;1234995]I normally receive good service because I think it's all about your attitude![/QUOTE]Think we all concur, in general. However, there is a subtle thing on the board where some others (including gents I've met in AC, Manila, Cebu, and Jakarta) might disagree with you without recognizing it. Their justification for their tip amount is not for good service, it is for future good service."Next time I walk in that bar everybody loves me and they going to treat me great." Well, there you have it: the belief that its not so much about attitude, but that you have to pay extra for good service!

Please post a Field Report soon of your AC experiences.

[QUOTE=Mc Don;1235086]LOL AC is like Hotel California. Have fun[/QUOTE]"You can check-out any time you like,

But you can never leave!"

[QUOTE=Westcoast1; 1235134]PIP: Tried to send this in Private Message, but you don't have PM (yet). Welcome to the board. None of us are telling anyone else what to tip. Several of us have said what we DO tip. And there is legitimate discussion of whether the tip is a good idea. We keep saying this: to each his own tip.

Doubt anyone with a semblance of a mathematical brain would agree with that. Of course its your biz, but its also THE NEXT GUY's biz. If you tip a girl 3000, who's normal take from your barfine is 750, then you are driving up either price, expectation, or both. Same applies to me when I tip p50. Adding extra money into the equation in a system where its not expected (such as asia, where she understands that her 750 is all-inclusive) will change future price / expectation. Adding such money in a system where its expected (westernized countries) does nothing. If everybody tipped her p3000, she will make 6 months salary in just one month (untaxed, on tips alone).

Think we all concur, in general. However, there is a subtle thing on the board where some others (including gents I've met in AC, Manila, Cebu, and Jakarta) might disagree with you without recognizing it. Their justification for their tip amount is not for good service, it is for future good service."Next time I walk in that bar everybody loves me and they going to treat me great." Well, there you have it: the belief that its not so much about attitude, but that you have to pay extra for good service!

Please post a Field Report soon of your AC experiences.[/QUOTE]Well, maybye I'm just different. When I arrive in AC I have a LOT of money that I have saved up just for the trip to have a GOOD time. I normally tip the girl 1000-1500 everytime and then take them to breakfast. I have given girls 3000 tips numerous time. But that's normally because they let me take numerous pics or made a video or something extra. Random guys coming to AC making big tips don't drive up the price. The greedy owners drive up prices. I spent $4, 500 in 10 days on my last trip! People always ask me how can I spend that much in AC in such a short time. It's because I go to have fun and treat the girls well. I ring the bells, go to Forbidden City Bar and throw money from above. I just like seeing the girls happy. That's just me.

Most of us who do tip is to either reward a chick for a job well done or too be remembered. If one is tipping for the later then one is justified in leaving what others may deem to be a large tip, even though this is a relative subject. To argue against the size of one's tip and then justify tipping appears to me to be a bit hypocritical and at the very less a bit confusing. If one completely does not believe in tipping and does not tip than at the very least we know where this individual stands. But this ambiguity about tipping seems to be a weak argument. I Tip because I choose to tip and I tip what I deem to be a descent tip for services rendered if the fellow next to me tips more or less than I, who am I to tell him that his tip is too large or too small. In the US we have different tax brackets for the wealthy than we do for the not so well off, those who make more pay more and suffice that's the attitude of some of the gents who tip. If one choose to be miserly than more power to that person and I respect where he stands and those who tend to be more philanthropic I have the same respect. But those who state one moment that they do tip and yet deem the next man's tip to be insufficient or too extravagant should reevaluate themselves and Take A Stand for or against.

[QUOTE=Jbiz979;1235207]But those who state one moment that they do tip and yet deem the next man's tip to be insufficient or too extravagant should reevaluate themselves and Take A Stand for or against.[/QUOTE]You might be right. It might be hypocritical. Causes me to re-evaluate the process. Its easier for me to just stop tipping even the small amount I give for tryke.

[QUOTE=PIpimp;1235200]I spent $4, 500 in 10 days on my last trip! People always ask me how can I spend that much in AC in such a short time. It's because I go to have fun and treat the girls well. I ring the bells, go to Forbidden City Bar and throw money from above. I just like seeing the girls happy. That's just me.[/QUOTE]Damn. That is a lot of fucking money. I didn't think it was even possible to spend $450 / day in PI. For instance I have an upcoming trip next month of 10 days to Manila, Coron, Cebu, and AC. I have planed to spend $1200. Hotels and diving $605. And $595 for other fun. Good thing I don't have to spend as much money to see the same girls happy or they would be some sad sad mfs.

[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1234974]Mostly the Santos gals work 8-hour shifts. With a 4-hour barfine. I pass by several times a day and night as I stay a block away, and see the same girls for days on end. Sometimes I think I'm the only one grabbing on the block. Other gents?[/QUOTE]I have to agree with you and others that no way any Santos lady gets BF 7x a day. Not sure exactly how many hrs they work daily but the ones I have taken personally at night usually tells me either I'm the 1st customer or maybe the 2nd.

[QUOTE=Freezone;1235276]I have to agree with you and others that no way any Santos lady gets BF 7x a day. Not sure exactly how many hrs they work daily but the ones I have taken personally at night usually tells me either I'm the 1st customer or maybe the 2nd.[/QUOTE]I'll go further. They are not all that attractive. Sometimes they complain: "No customer many days."

[QUOTE=Ekspat; 1235073]Over the past years there is an increase of runners, for sure. Go back in any forum to eg. 2004, the word "runner" is still unknown because there weren't any. Barfine a girl at 3pm and she stayed with you till 11am next day without any discussion. I've done that countless times.

Runners popped up with the inflow of the Koreans 07/08 or so, maybe it has something to do with it, but I don't know. Probably.

To be honest, having had a runner in 2004, I would have gone back to the bar with her and make a big fuss, nowadays I don't care too much anymore. Sort of getting older maybe, I'd let her go without tip and can sleep quietly without trouble, also fine with me, for the morning bang I can easily call someone else to come over for ST.

Things change.[/QUOTE]To Ekspat,

My first barfined at AC is a runner back in 1999 a small bar next to American hotel barfined back then is around 800 p she is cute but once in the room she is on the phone ordering dinner, after one shot she want to leave and go back to the bar and get her check and tell me she will be back in an hour, I was naive then my first trip to AC and let her go.

Fast Eddie 48

[quote=ekspat; 1235089]nope, happy hour in valhalla ends at 7pm, just saw it today.

latest hh i've seen is in brown sugar until 9pm.

cheers![/quote]fair enough, when i was there early last month it was until 10, so they must have changed it for the new year.

i left the philippines last week, so how about a final update and a few pics; the best bars on this trip for me were candy bar, t&a nite club and for pure down nastiness and sleeze, matrix brawn. anyone seeing a pattern here? yup, all on perimeter. fields avenue is fubar as far as i'm concerned. here we go:

champagne bar: they had a good selection of fuck-dolls at this club, but the barfine was ridiculous, over 1800 if i rembember right. like i said, good quality, though, some good looking girls here. i got the number of a cute waitress who wanted 1000 pesos for a short time sneakout. i told her to come over to my fuckpad but she texted me back saying another guy offered her more money so maybe another night. whatever. she kept texting the next night but i didn't respond. i could get tln from perimeter bars for just a little more than that, so why bother? guys, i though short time sneakouts were 500 pesos? wtf, even sneakout prices are going up?

insomnia bar: d cups, calling isg member d cups lol! jesus, there are some huge tits in this bar! too bad there weren't more smiles! some of the girls looked downright sad. barfine was 1865 pesos, and that includes a bottle of "party animal". what is that you ask? i have no idea.

dragons den: i liked this bar, it was real fun to hang out in. it's like a smaller, more intimate version of atlantis and dollhouse; i think it's a dollhouse group bar. good shows with "spotlight" girls, shooting balloons, etc. didn't barfine from here so i don't know the price for pussy. probably expensive.

blue nile / golden nile: i don't remember which one i went to, but it was the one where the girls dancing on the table surrounded by mongers go for 3000 pesos, and then the girls up on the stage are 1500. the girls on the stage were just standing around, chit chatting and looking at their phones, hardly dancing. what kind of marketing pitch is that? i have to admit the table daning girls where hot, but 3000? a bit expensive for what is probably a short time fuck.

pony tails: they have a great line up here, but i picked a dud. i don't remember her name and i didn't take a pic (sorry!) but look out for a 19 year old girl with mosquito bite tits, a big ass, and a little bit of hair on her legs. she's a runner. after one shot she was in her clothes and out of my room faster than speedy gonzalez. and she had the nerve to ask me for a tip because she needs money for a ride home. i shit you not, i gave her exactly 8 pesos in change! take the jeepney, runner!

(remeber, a cute 19 year old with a disproportionately big ass. watch out for her)

matrix brawn: i love this sleeze of this place. this is the bj bar on perimeter. unfortunately, they have raised the prices of bjs in the back from 500 to 700 pesos. i was pissed off about this at first, but then realized every place in angeles had raised their price, so i still recommend it. again, a bbbj in the back is 700, short time in the back is 1200, and the barfine is 1500. i went here multiple times but the best bbbj i got here (and alas, of the entire trip) was from a 25 year old named jhoan jett-like the musician. she's got a tongue ring, a nice small ass and firm tits. childless, which is rare on perimeter. go on mondays when it's "no panty" day; i love it!

drill shack: a laid back, little bar on perimeter, my one beef with this place was when i went there, i'm pretty sure the air con wasn't turned on. i had one beer there but i was sweating a bit so i had to leave after that. might be worth another look if they turn on the air con.

t&a nite club: this place had a great line up. i barfined michelle. 22 years old, one child so not the best tits, but her ass was as firm as a soccer ball! nice bbbj too. just great. i didn't take pics of her, but her pics are on the bar's website; she's actually on the t&a website as the "dancer of the month". barfine was 1300, and she told me she could only stay until 11 pm, so no tln, no tip. see how that works, guys?

candy bar: good line up at this bar, but you must go early to get the best girls. barfine is 1100, i think the cheapest of all the bars i went to.

eager beavers: ok i'm embarrassed to admit this but i got gonorrhea last year from a chick at this bar, so i thought if i go back, there's no way i could get another sti from there, i mean what are the odds of that happening? i shit you not, i got the clap again, from another chick that works at this bar. honestly, what are the odds? seriously, someone call nasa and have them calculate this shit. anyway, i'm never going back to this bar, my body just can't take it anymore. barfine was 1500, antibiotics were a bit more than that.

i went to more bars but i can't remember the rest. to wrap it up, here are the pics of the gonorrhea twins from eager beavers, watch out! i saw the naked one a couple weeks later wandering around phillies sports bar:

[QUOTE=Ezinho;1235406]Fair enough, when I was there early last month it was until 10, so they must have changed it for the New Year.[/quote]Yeah, most likely.

[QUOTE=Ezinho; 1235406]Pony Tails: They have a great line up here, but I picked a dud.[/quote]Picked #989 or so recently, forgot the name, performance okay.

[QUOTE=Ezinho;1235406]Matrix Brawn: I went here multiple times but the best BBBJ I got here (and alas, of the entire trip) was from a 25 year old named Jhoan Jett-like the musician. She's got a tongue ring, a nice small ass and firm tits. Childless, which is rare on Perimeter. Go on Mondays when it's "no panty" day; I love it![/QUOTE]Will check her out. For me still the best is Karen.

[QUOTE=Ezinho;1235406]Candy Bar: Good line up at this bar, but you must go early to get the best girls. Barfine is 1100, I think the cheapest of all the bars I went to.[/quote]In all these bars there and including Emotions you must be early. Because customers of Lewis Grand and ABC like to take them for afternoon ST.

Including me.