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Jib Reach and Rovnak.

So I have communicated by Whatsapp with the two below. Based on your reporting, I would assume these two are fakes. One has a credit card facility and the other one's ad is now down although she says her place is near the MASP Trinon station which is close to my hotel.

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/capital/jardins/acompanhante-de-luxo-bem-liberal-e-viciada-em-sexo-id-sacv6[/URL]

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/abc-paulista/uma-mulher-completa-de-corpinho-natural-e-gostoso-id-q8vv7[/URL] (Old ad).

Also like these two but no communication as of yet.

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/capital/vila-mariana/venha-fazer-a-melhor-massagem-sensual-e-um-sexo-prazeroso-tenho-local-aceito-cartoes-id-6w7tz[/URL] Also accepts cards.

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/capital/bela-vista/uma-linda-acompanhante-que-adora-ser-submissa-e-te-dar-muito-amor-e-carinho-id-pqeg5[/URL]

I have tried Tineye on all of these and found no duplicates.

Should I just give up and go to the clinicas? I always like to try something new.

[QUOTE=JibReach;2305546]Hi, Rovnak -.

Actually I was referring to complaints about Photoacompanhantes specifically. I don't mean to argue, obviously you have a great deal of experience and success, but for those with a bit less familiarity with Sao Paulo and the culture, I do urge caution. Here is a post from Gp-Guia (it's in the Commentarios section of Sao Paulo Acompanhantes from a week or two ago). The Twitter chatter is harder to find unless you are seeing it in real time.

For the benefit of the non-portuguese speakers, Polibian1 writes.

A lot of guys are complaining about frauds on Photoacompanhantes..[/QUOTE]Yes there are many fakes which is why I wrote several long detailed posts on this site about how to identify the fakes, and minimize risk. I pointed out all of those tips and several more such as the possible correlation of credit card acceptance with agencies. Nothing in that post is new to anyone who read my posts. The flip side is that if you read many of the positive TDs many of them are linked to Photoacompanhantes. And the site has a filter option to show specifically the ladies that are positively reviewed. The sheer number of ladies on the site guarantee that there are going to be some fakes. The site even says that it has "Eliminados 44.634 anúncios com fotos falsas. " eliminated 44,000 fake announcements due to its user "denounce" policy.

Most of the guys that get burned are either not using the tips or going for the TGTBT announcements. IMO there is still no better site available for the discerning punter but as always YMMV.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2305636]Jib Reach and Rovnak.

So I have communicated by Whatsapp with the two below. Based on your reporting, I would assume these two are fakes. One has a credit card facility and the other one's ad is now down although she says her place is near the MASP Trinon station which is close to my hotel.

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/capital/jardins/acompanhante-de-luxo-bem-liberal-e-viciada-em-sexo-id-sacv6[/URL]

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/abc-paulista/uma-mulher-completa-de-corpinho-natural-e-gostoso-id-q8vv7[/URL] (Old ad).

Also like these two but no communication as of yet..[/QUOTE]Haha, now the fun stuff. First off, did you try to filter the list by the ones that already have positive TDs? That is my first and strongest recommendation:

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/capital/tds-positivos[/URL]

IF you look at those ladies and concentrate on the ones with multiple positive TDs or even one positive TD from a gp-guia user who writes many TDs (the red flag is a single TD by a user who has only written 1 TD) . Did you do that and find no one to whet your appetite? I would stick to that subset of already TDd ladies unless you are here long enough to sustain a few failures without ruining your trip.

Onto your choices, here is my analysis. I like your taste and I have checked out some of them before. First off, 3 of the 4 violate my "does she show her face" warning. I have mentioned that while I want to see the face, I don't trust the ads that show the face (unless it is someone well reviewed or someone that ALSO has a twitter feed where she shows her face).

Second, the types of photos are important. Do they look like "instagram" selfies, or "fake selfies" (like the woman holding a phone but the photo is being taken by someone else. These are warnings. Look at the image quality, do they look like pro fotos or "Real SELFIES" . In general the WORSE the photo quality the more likely it is to be real and conversely the better the photo the more likely it is to be fake or old. This is the TGTBT rule.

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/capital/jardins/acompanhante-de-luxo-bem-liberal-e-viciada-em-sexo-id-sacv6[/URL]

Mel. Warnings: CC, face visible, Jardins, no TDs. Makes me think this is a Jardin agency apartment. I wouldn't risk it unless I whatsapped her and somehow I was reassured either by a video call or a promise that I could cancel without fuss if "in my opinion" she was not identical to the woman in the photo.

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/abc-paulista/uma-mulher-completa-de-corpinho-natural-e-gostoso-id-q8vv7[/URL]

Dalilia. Totally my type and I wish she was real. The woman in the photos may exist as a GP somewhere in Brasil at some time in the past or present, but I doubt this is her.

Warnings: visible face, very very pro fotos, TGTBT alarms going off right and left. I am sure I have seen those photos before.

Did a google on the phone number (another necessary step) and found that number on various other escort sites, none of which I trust. I saw her ad a long time ago and whatsapped her. She was responding fine until I wrote this, after which no response which convinced me she is fake.

Tive umas experiências ruins recentemente com mulheres que andão foram nada parecida as fotos. Vc pode me mandar numa foto caseira de HJ pra confirmar que vc é a mesma das fotos? Por favor.

Translation:

I had some bad experiences recently with women who were not anything like the photos. Can you send me a candid photo from today to confirm that you are the same as the photos? Please".

No reply said everything I needed to know.

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/capital/vila-mariana/venha-fazer-a-melhor-massagem-sensual-e-um-sexo-prazeroso-tenho-local-aceito-cartoes-id-6w7tz[/URL]

Mel Lisboa. This is the most promising one.

Positive: she obscures face but show enough to know she is pretty. The photos are all in the same location, and it is a Brazil location, and it is a location I have seen before in other ads. I might have even been to that house.

Cons: the CC is not such a big deal because I know that area, Vila Mariana, there are some semi free lance massage places there, usually a house with several rooms and 2 or 3 ladies that advertise like this. The problem is that those types that emphasize massage are often reluctant to be real GFE, they don't kiss etc, and they want to do massage first, bla bla bla. So my evaluation is that she is probably real and looks like that but that she is going to try to push the massage angle and minimize the actual sex. In fact I asked her this was a shared space and she said "her and one other". Then I asked if it was primarily massage or could I go directly to sex and she replied "yes, massage" So avoid unless you LIKE massage.

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/capital/bela-vista/uma-linda-acompanhante-que-adora-ser-submissa-e-te-dar-muito-amor-e-carinho-id-pqeg5[/URL]

Jaqueline Malta.

Cons: very instagramish photos, shows face. Text says she is blonde but the photo is a brunnette.

Pros: bela vista has many indies, no CC.

Not really sure about this one. If it were me and I was strongly attracted I would do what I did above. Ask for a "caseira" selfie from today and a promise that I could cancel if I did not find her to be the same as the photo.

But in summary, I would stick to the reviewed chicks unless you are here for several weeks and care to take a flyer.

"Should I just give up and go to the clinicas?" Have you already been to the clinicas? If not, you certainly must go there before taking any flyer on an un reviewed freelancer. For a visitor the clinicas are always my top recommendation. And if you hit it off with someone there, you may be able to set up a separate date "encontro particular" if you are wanting something at your place.

Order of attack:

- clinicas.

- cassarao.

- frees with TDs (or strong twitter visibility).

Unreviewed free is the last resort and only if you are comfortable texting to ask the things I suggested.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2305636]Jib Reach and Rovnak.

So I have communicated by Whatsapp with the two below. Based on your reporting, I would assume these two are fakes. One has a credit card facility and the other one's ad is now down although she says her place is near the MASP Trinon station which is close to my hotel.

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/capital/jardins/acompanhante-de-luxo-bem-liberal-e-viciada-em-sexo-id-sacv6[/URL]

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/abc-paulista/uma-mulher-completa-de-corpinho-natural-e-gostoso-id-q8vv7[/URL] (Old ad).

Also like these two but no communication as of yet..[/QUOTE]I cannot claim to be an expert on that site. Rovnak seems to be and I would follow his advice.

That said, this one seems to fit your "look" and she is well known and apparently super-nice.

[URL]https://twitter.com/manuborgesgp[/URL]

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2305636]Jib Reach and Rovnak.

So I have communicated by Whatsapp with the two below. Based on your reporting, I would assume these two are fakes. One has a credit card facility and the other one's ad is now down although she says her place is near the MASP Trinon station which is close to my hotel.

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/capital/jardins/acompanhante-de-luxo-bem-liberal-e-viciada-em-sexo-id-sacv6[/URL]

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/abc-paulista/uma-mulher-completa-de-corpinho-natural-e-gostoso-id-q8vv7[/URL] (Old ad).

Also like these two but no communication as of yet..[/QUOTE]Based on your visual taste I would consider this one:

[URL]https://twitter.com/BiancaGalonni[/URL]

[URL]http://www.gp-guia.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=195562&hilit=Bianca[/URL]+Galonni.

She looks gorgeous and has 12 very positive TDs. She has no negative TDs. However be forewarned that she has 3 "Pisada na bola" which means she scheduled to meet the guys at the love motel and then cancelled at the lat moment.

Now, I have not seen her personally so I cannot vouch for her service personally. I am interested in her so if you do see her let me know.

I have others I can recommend that I know personally if you pm me.

She is 300 per hour.

[QUOTE=Rovnak;2305659]
[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/capital/jardins/acompanhante-de-luxo-bem-liberal-e-viciada-em-sexo-id-sacv6[/URL]

Mel. Warnings: CC, face visible, Jardins, no TDs. Makes me think this is a Jardin agency apartment. I wouldn't risk it unless I whatsapped her and somehow I was reassured either by a video call or a promise that I could cancel without fuss if "in my opinion" she was not identical to the woman in the photo.

[/QUOTE]Mel makes it clear in her Whatsapp. "Nao envio fotos!!" So I think I have crossed her off my list. I put the cart before the horse. I dug into the [URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo[/URL] before I dug deep into the Board.

I have been to maybe twenty different clinicas since I first started coming to Sao Paulo in 2004. Actually my kink is going to the therapeuticas and then seeing how far they go. I went 3 times to Kamna Spa in Moema. The first and the third time the massage ended in a hand job. But the second time the masseuse really got into it and that has been my best overall experience in a clinica. From my experience, if you are going to concentrate on clinicas it is best to stay in Moema. I chose to stay on Paulista this time so I must be looking for something a little different. I can walk to both Bomboa and Sauna House. I know Sauna House doesn't get much play on this Board. It is a little more expensive but I had some really good experiences there with some great-looking girls. I think it is oriented towards the tourists.

[QUOTE=Rovnak;2305659]Haha, now the fun stuff. First off, did you try to filter the list by the ones that already have positive TDs? That is my first and strongest recommendation:

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/capital/tds-positivos[/URL]

IF you look at those ladies and concentrate on the ones with multiple positive TDs or even one positive TD from a gp-guia user who writes many TDs (the red flag is a single TD by a user who has only written 1 TD) . Did you do that and find no one to whet your appetite? I would stick to that subset of already TDd ladies unless you are here long enough to sustain a few failures without ruining your trip.

Onto your choices, here is my analysis. I like your taste and I have checked out some of them before. First off, 3 of the 4 violate my "does she show her face" warning. I have mentioned that while I want to see the face, I don't trust the ads that show the face (unless it is someone well reviewed or someone that ALSO has a twitter feed where she shows her face).

Second, the types of photos are important. Do they look like "instagram" selfies, or "fake selfies" (like the woman holding a phone but the photo is being taken by someone else. These are warnings. Look at the image quality, do they look like pro fotos or "Real SELFIES" . In general the WORSE the photo quality the more likely it is to be real and conversely the better the photo the more likely it is to be fake or old. This is the TGTBT rule.

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/capital/jardins/acompanhante-de-luxo-bem-liberal-e-viciada-em-sexo-id-sacv6[/URL]

Mel. Warnings: CC, face visible, Jardins, no TDs. Makes me think this is a Jardin agency apartment. I wouldn't risk it unless I whatsapped her and somehow I was reassured either by a video call or a promise that I could cancel without fuss if "in my opinion" she was not identical to the woman in the photo.

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/abc-paulista/uma-mulher-completa-de-corpinho-natural-e-gostoso-id-q8vv7[/URL]

Dalilia. Totally my type and I wish she was real. The woman in the photos may exist as a GP somewhere in Brasil at some time in the past or present, but I doubt this is her.

Warnings: visible face, very very pro fotos, TGTBT alarms going off right and left. I am sure I have seen those photos before.

Did a google on the phone number (another necessary step) and found that number on various other escort sites, none of which I trust. I saw her ad a long time ago and whatsapped her. She was responding fine until I wrote this, after which no response which convinced me she is fake.

Tive umas experincias ruins recentemente com mulheres que ando foram nada parecida as fotos. Vc pode me mandar numa foto caseira de HJ pra confirmar que vc a mesma das fotos? Por favor.

Translation:

I had some bad experiences recently with women who were not anything like the photos. Can you send me a candid photo from today to confirm that you are the same as the photos? Please".

No reply said everything I needed to know.

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/capital/vila-mariana/venha-fazer-a-melhor-massagem-sensual-e-um-sexo-prazeroso-tenho-local-aceito-cartoes-id-6w7tz[/URL]

Mel Lisboa. This is the most promising one.

Positive: she obscures face but show enough to know she is pretty. The photos are all in the same location, and it is a Brazil location, and it is a location I have seen before in other ads. I might have even been to that house.

Cons: the CC is not such a big deal because I know that area, Vila Mariana, there are some semi free lance massage places there, usually a house with several rooms and 2 or 3 ladies that advertise like this. The problem is that those types that emphasize massage are often reluctant to be real GFE, they don't kiss etc, and they want to do massage first, bla bla bla. So my evaluation is that she is probably real and looks like that but that she is going to try to push the massage angle and minimize the actual sex. In fact I asked her this was a shared space and she said "her and one other". Then I asked if it was primarily massage or could I go directly to sex and she replied "yes, massage" So avoid unless you LIKE massage.

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/capital/bela-vista/uma-linda-acompanhante-que-adora-ser-submissa-e-te-dar-muito-amor-e-carinho-id-pqeg5[/URL]

Jaqueline Malta.

Cons: very instagramish photos, shows face. Text says she is blonde but the photo is a brunnette.

Pros: bela vista has many indies, no CC.

Not really sure about this one. If it were me and I was strongly attracted I would do what I did above. Ask for a "caseira" selfie from today and a promise that I could cancel if I did not find her to be the same as the photo.

But in summary, I would stick to the reviewed chicks unless you are here for several weeks and care to take a flyer.

"Should I just give up and go to the clinicas?" Have you already been to the clinicas? If not, you certainly must go there before taking any flyer on an un reviewed freelancer. For a visitor the clinicas are always my top recommendation. And if you hit it off with someone there, you may be able to set up a separate date "encontro particular" if you are wanting something at your place.

Order of attack:

- clinicas.

- cassarao.

- frees with TDs (or strong twitter visibility).

Unreviewed free is the last resort and only if you are comfortable texting to ask the things I suggested.[/QUOTE]Rovnaks photoaconpanhantes advice is spot on. He really helped me score a winner. Maybe I can save you the trouble. Mary Ninfeta looks your type which is same as my type -.

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/capital/ninfeta-estilo-namoradinha-adoro-leitinho-na-boca-id-gyfcf[/URL]

She is much prettier in person. A true oral nympho and sweet as can be she gave me a foot massage when we finished early. Can't recommend highly enough. And per Rovnaks Rules she has 46 positive TDS.

Hello all,

First time poster here.

Making my first trip to SP May 5 for 2 weeks. Staying a few blocks from Shopping Ibirapuera in Moema. Walking distance to many clinicas and an Uber ride to many others. Actually mostly going to check out the live music scene, jazz clubs, and symphony orchestra. Figure it's a great mongering musician's destination.

I have RTFF and searched TFF but I still have a few questions.

1. Massages. From what I understand these clinicas may advertise massage, but it's essentially a brothel. That's cool and all, but coming from massage parlors, I like a massage, even mediocre for a good 30-40 minutes before the flip and the action begins. It always feels weird and uncomfortable to me to jump right into the action. A massage gets me in the mood and ready to go. Years of MP training I guess. Are there places like this, or is any clinica like this if I ask for a massage first. Any places known for a great massage before the action? I don't know if this is unusual. I'the rather get a massage and a screw with a 7 then jump right into it with a 9. A little strange maybe but that's always been my thing. I'm excited for the GFE / DFK with beautiful ladies part of SP but hoping to get some good massages too.

2. Freelancers. I've read the weekends are different at some clinicas. Freelancers. Does that just mean a different or better lineup? Are there different prices for different girls or same rates as weekdays for all the girls? Not sure how that works.

3. Loyalty punch cards. I've seen on some clinicas websites some of these places maybe have loyalty cards. Since I'm there for 2 weeks, I could maybe find a place within walking distance to my place (and there are several within a 25-30 minute walk) and find the best looking garota there and buy 4 get the 5th free or whatever deals they offer.

Sorry for all the questions but after reading over 60 pages I'm still unsure of these few things (I'm sure there's more). And if anyone has any favorite places for live music (especially jazz!) I'the love to hear!

Thanks for any feedback.

Arkayel.

[QUOTE=Arkayel;2306417]Hello all,

First time poster here.

Making my first trip to SP May 5 for 2 weeks. Staying a few blocks from Shopping Ibirapuera in Moema. Walking distance to many clinicas and an Uber ride to many others. Actually mostly going to check out the live music scene, jazz clubs, and symphony orchestra. Figure it's a great mongering musician's destination.

I have RTFF and searched TFF but I still have a few questions.

1. Massages. From what I understand these clinicas may advertise massage, but it's essentially a brothel. That's cool and all, but coming from massage parlors, I like a massage, even mediocre for a good 30-40 minutes before the flip and the action begins. It always feels weird and uncomfortable to me to jump right into the action. A massage gets me in the mood and ready to go. Years of MP training I guess. Are there places like this, or is any clinica like this if I ask for a massage first. Any places known for a great massage before the action? I don't know if this is unusual. I'the rather get a massage and a screw with a 7 then jump right into it with a 9. A little strange maybe but that's always been my thing. I'm excited for the GFE / DFK with beautiful ladies part of SP but hoping to get some good massages too.

2. Freelancers. I've read the weekends are different at some clinicas. Freelancers. Does that just mean a different or better lineup? Are there different prices for different girls or same rates as weekdays for all the girls? Not sure how that works..[/QUOTE]Good job, good q's.

1. there are 4 types of clinicas.

- therapeutic: massage only.

- sensual massage (called tantra sometime): massage with flip and happy ending.

- FS massage: massage and then FS (seems to be what you want.

- FS with optional massage but in reality the ladies are not trained in massage because customers that want massage don't really go to these places. The ladies will gladly try to give you a massage but it is unlikely to be good unless coincidentally the woman had previously worked at one of the other places above.

Most places discussed here are in last category. We can look into giving you some names for cat 3.

2. "Frees" yes on weekends at a few places. Not necessarily prettier or better, just additional choice. The pay structure is no different for the frees, you pay house, house pay lady. Same price for all, no negotiation.

3. fidelity cards: for a short time visitor the only realistic option is TG and RW, the houses of Vani. Those places do not require a post on gp-guia, net for visit credit. But those places are cat 4.

[QUOTE=Arkayel;2306417]Hello all,

Sorry for all the questions but after reading over 60 pages I'm still unsure of these few things (I'm sure there's more). And if anyone has any favorite places for live music (especially jazz!) I'the love to hear!

Thanks for any feedback.

Arkayel.[/QUOTE]As for places that do "good massage followed by FS" I do not really go to those places. Big Boss Man said that he gets massage in Kamna (Moaci 885) in Moema. He also said he usually gets only HJ there but last time got FS. I was a bit surprised because I thought that place was always FS. I pass by it all the time but only sessioned once and just went straight to FS.

There is a place called Mix Masagem in Jardins which may be Cat 3 . Massage and FS. It is definitely massage plus oral. I don't have time to read all the reviews but providing link:

[URL]www.massagemmix.com.br[/URL]

[URL]http://www.gp-guia.net/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=112700&hilit=MASSAGEM[/URL]+MIX&start=1870.

Also this site is full of ads for massagistas that may or may not do FS. The problem you will have with these places is that they are not like the straight FS clinicas that we write about here, where there is a lineup and you choose. The places on this site for the most part are reservation based and you have to hope the chick is like the photo. Its not my area of expertise.

[URL]https://www.guiademassagem.com.br/sensuais/massagem-sensual/[/URL]

As for live music, you can find listing for music in various sites. Moema has some clubs known for blues and rock more than jazz. Bourbon Street is one such place.

[URL]https://bourbonstreet.com.br[/URL]

Jazz is not really that popular in Brazil so if you are a real jazz aficionado you may not find any up to your standard. If you are visiting Brazil you might be better off sampling Brazilian music. Mpb or perhaps "Choro" . I personally don't know much about Choro but it has the rep of being more jazz like, instrumental and uniquely Brazilian. That would be my recommendation for a jazz buff in Brazil.

You can read about choro and definitely find videos on youtube or music on spotifiy.

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choro[/URL]

This aritcle says where you can find Choro in SP.

[URL]https://samba.catracalivre.com.br/sp/samba-sp/indicacao/rodas-de-chorinho/[/URL]

Also, Bomboa the high end boate has 3 live bands nightly that play mpg, sertaneja and covers of rock. I enjoy it.

If you had MP privileges I would meet up with you. But seems you don't.

Thank you so much Rovnak for taking the time to provide me with some great info. This is perfect information for what I'm looking for. I'm excited to try different things, different experiences and enjoy things as they come. It seems there's a million ways to monger and enjoy the city so I plan on checking different things out. I appreciate the Massagem websites I will check them out. Sounds like I got some great places to start and Kamna is a 7 minute walk from my place so I'm sure I'll go there.

As for the music I know several Brazilian musicians who've told me SP is a great place to catch live music. Jazz or not I plan on spending my nights checking live music. I am open to all kinds of music and maybe I'll find some shit I never knew existed. Broaden my horizon and what not. I will check out Choro and all the links you sent. I prefer instrumental music so this sounds awesome.

I plan on mongering during the day. I'm not a nightclub fan, don't drink, so don't think the boates will be for me.

I don't know what MP privileges means. I just officially signed up for an account a few days back after being anonymous for a long time. Don't have the paid account.

All I know is you've been beyond a big help to me and appreciate your advice, leads and recommendations.

May can't come soon enough!

All the best.

Arkayel.

[QUOTE=Rovnak;2306827]As for places that do "good massage followed by FS" I do not really go to those places. Big Boss Man said that he gets massage in Kamna (Moaci 885) in Moema. He also said he usually gets only HJ there but last time got FS. I was a bit surprised because I thought that place was always FS. I pass by it all the time but only sessioned once and just went straight to FS.

There is a place called Mix Masagem in Jardins which may be Cat 3 . Massage and FS. It is definitely massage plus oral. I don't have time to read all the reviews but providing link:

[URL]www.massagemmix.com.br[/URL]

[URL]http://www.gp-guia.net/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=112700&hilit=MASSAGEM[/URL]+MIX&start=1870.

Also this site is full of ads for massagistas that may or may not do FS. The problem you will have with these places is that they are not like the straight FS clinicas that we write about here, where there is a lineup and you choose. The places on this site for the most part are reservation based and you have to hope the chick is like the photo. Its not my area of expertise..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Arkayel;2306908]Thank you so much Rovnak for taking the time to provide me with some great info. This is perfect information for what I'm looking for. I'm excited to try different things, different experiences and enjoy things as they come. It seems there's a million ways to monger and enjoy the city so I plan on checking different things out. I appreciate the Massagem websites I will check them out. Sounds like I got some great places to start and Kamna is a 7 minute walk from my place so I'm sure I'll go there.

As for the music I know several Brazilian musicians who've told me SP is a great place to catch live music. Jazz or not I plan on spending my nights checking live music. I am open to all kinds of music and maybe I'll find some shit I never knew existed. Broaden my horizon and what not. I will check out Choro and all the links you sent. I prefer instrumental music so this sounds awesome..[/QUOTE]Couple of notes on jazz in Brazil. First, it is fantastic! Rovnak has pointed you toward a New Orleans style jazz bar that is very good, but Brazilian jazz, often based in Bossa Nova, is awesome. A few other places to look into.

Samp Jazz Bar - [URL]http://www.sampajazzbar.com.br/index.php[/URL].

Madeleine Jazz - [URL]http://www.madeleine.com.br/[/URL].

Jazz nos Fundos (probably the best in Sampa for the down and dirty jazz fan) - [URL]http://jazznosfundos.net/home.php[/URL].

Raiz Bar is a very interesting place. It is in the basement of another restaurant. It is cool and you may be treated to all variety of music there. They have an insta page [URL]https://www.instagram.com/raiz.bar/?fbclid=IwAR0onrbGxrb5cxtMM9DhUXwEQB3R5JyL69sOqfr5BE4kZqY8OcRGhk5lYSk[/URL].

The Fasano has a jazz bar. . . . it is good, but lounge like and carries Fasano prices.

There are literally hundreds of others and once you hit one, you just need to ask around. Oddly (or perhaps not), you will find a substantial number of fans speak some English as many of the musicians have come to the US to study, play and learn.

Jib Reach.

[QUOTE=Arkayel;2306908]As for the music I know several Brazilian musicians who've told me SP is a great place to catch live music. Jazz or not I plan on spending my nights checking live music. I am open to all kinds of music and maybe I'll find some shit I never knew existed. Broaden my horizon and what not. I will check out Choro and all the links you sent. I prefer instrumental music so this sounds awesome.
Arkayel.[/QUOTE]Here are some example of some choro them SP.

[URL]https://youtu.be/s5nV47C8RiQ[/URL]

[URL]https://youtu.be/nFgPcrXK9x0[/URL]

Jib Reach is correct that there bossa nova is an option I had forgotten about. Q for Jib, is bossa nova still "thriving"or is it mostly people covering bossa nova standards?

Another option neither of us mentioned is Brazils most famous music LOL, samba. Although as you can see some of the sites we linked have samba in their name. Others may have even more suggestions, as Brazil has many musical strands.

Choro.

3. 2 Samba.

3. 3 MPB (Popular Brazilian Music).

3. 4 Bossa nova.

3. 5 Brazilian gospel.

3. 6 Brazilian rock.

3. 6. 1 Brazilian heavy metal.

3. 6. 2 Brazilian folk / folk-rock.

3. 6. 3 Brazilian psychedelic rock.

3. 7 Sertanejo.

3. 8 Northeastern Music.

3. 9 Gaucho music (Southern music).

3. 10 Music of Salvador: Late 60's to mid-70's.

3. 11 Frevo.

3. 12 Sambass.

3. 13 Funk Carioca.

Hello all.

I am a friend from India presently in São Paulo and is put up in Barueri area. Can you please recommend any clinicas nearby from here with sureshot extra services or FS.

[QUOTE=Samuel123;2307474]Hello all.

I am a friend from India presently in So Paulo and is put up in Barueri area. Can you please recommend any clinicas nearby from here with sureshot extra services or FS.[/QUOTE]There are a few Clínicas in ALFA Ville, one is at Calçada dos Lírios but I cannot remember the exact me.