Safe Sex and Sex Related Discussions in Thailand

Ok I see were are going in many directions here. I give you an example. Let say that a nurse gets hurt by a needle when she is doing a shoot to an HIV+ patient what do you think will happen? She will be put on treatment made for people that just got infected. This treatment is very very heavy for your body it's not like taking an aspirin and in 80-90% of the case after 6 months she will be negative. So if the best hospitals in the USA had a test that could tell you almost on the spot you are + or - don't you think the will use it so there nurse or doctors don't have to take all this costly and heavy treatment. So to really know if you have or she as HVI there are not many solution one test after 3 months and the other one after 6 months. And you have to use a condom in this 6 months period. This is the safe and the normal procedure. If you guys after want to take the risk and trust what a prostitute tells you and all the shit you can find on the net about miracles test or drugs and HIV it's hope to you.
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[QUOTE=PassinThrough]Sun,

There are tests that can check for HIV after about 3 days from exposure. The tests that take a long time look for HIV antibodies which take a while time to develop in a human. The rapid tests which are 98% accurate 3 to 7 days after exposure and 99%+ accurate after 1 week, test for the virus itself. The reason they are more accurate is the longer the virus is in a persons system the more it has replicated itself so the more likely it is detected. These tests cost more than the antibody test so they are not the standard for general HIV testing. As far as I know they are also not available in the rapid HIV tests that are available on the market. If you go to a good hospital or clinic they should be able to run that test and give you the results in about 72 hours.

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Hello,

I believe the test you're referring to is the PCR-DNA test wich is used in the porn industry. I've gotten this test done before and it will be the only test I will get done in the future. It can detect the virus usually no longer than a week after infection. It costs $160 to get it done. You go to a certain clinic and they take your blood sample and Fed Ex it to AIM in Los Angeles and they test it there. The common antibody test is a flawed test and shouldn't be taken in my opinion. It is important to point out that the ELISA test which is the most commonly used test has the highest percentage of false positives. Only 30% or so of positive ELISA tests are confirmed on a PCR-DNA test which tests for the virus itself. If you want to avoid some serious mental anguish over a potential false positive it is strongly advised to get the more sophisticated test done instead. The peace of mind is priceless in my view.

Keep in mind though that the pornstar Darren James who caught the virus in Brazil and returned to "work" in LA being HIV+ (and infected three others) took the PCR test and cleared it. Even this sophisticated test didn't catch it in time, so no test is 100% concrete.

Please no preachers needed, just be sure where and which ink you lot dipped
your pen into.

You all coming up with yr own assumptions and none you have any knowledge
at all.

[QUOTE=Abse2]Please no preachers needed, just be sure where and which ink you lot dipped
your pen into.

You all coming up with yr own assumptions and none you have any knowledge
at all.[/QUOTE]Abse2,

You think the girl you are referring to as your Pattaya regular only has sex with you? I am sure her Thai Boyfriend(s) take her bareback, she most probably will deny this but she is playing Russian Roulette with her life and Yours.

No matter what can be written here, people who go Bareback are exposed to Viruses and with Today's means of information and prevention, if you catch the virus, you deserve it!

Play with Fire and inevitable one day you will get burned.

Just reading this thread gives me goosebumbs. Thinking of barebacking anal in Pattaya must be a result of complete denial.

Abse2, please do us all a favour, never venture to BKK and/or any sopies, MP's mentioned in this forum!

JB

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Abse2, You think the girl you are referring to as your Pattaya regular only has sex with you? I am sure her Thai Boyfriend(s) take her bareback, she most probably will deny this but she is playing Russian Roulette with her life and Yours.

No matter what can be written here, people who go Bareback are exposed to Viruses and with Today's means of information and prevention, if you catch the virus, you deserve it!

Play with Fire and inevitable one day you will get burned.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Abse2]
Please no preachers needed, just be sure where and which ink you lot dipped
your pen into.You all coming up with yr own assumptions and none you have any knowledge
at all.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Abse2] She my regular date in pattaya, I knew that it may flair up some hot air. The best bareback ass fucking with Nuch.[/QUOTE]

Thats why all the white english guys are married to these disease riddled thai *****s out in Bangkok and Pattaya, they get kicked out from their homes here in u.k and go and find their true love in Thailand.(funny)

And most of the times to fucking drunk to notice if they have condom or not,thats why how manytimes you fucked bareback.

when the plan comes together,I thought this thread is a bit boring so put a few quotes on to discuss bareback,I know all your guys eyes just light up when this subject is touched.
Please lets have some more keep this Safe Sex in Thailand section going.
Anyways of to sunny Dubai.
I got to clean my Thai rubber dolly!!

I must say I am pretty open to anything, but those are the nastiest set of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] flaps I have ever seen. I like the lips high and tight, not dragging on the floor.
Disgusting.
She could feed a family of 4 with those things flapping in the breeze. No wonder you fucked her ass.
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[QUOTE=1Ball]I must say I am pretty open to anything, but those are the nastiest set of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] flaps I have ever seen. I like the lips high and tight, not dragging on the floor.
Disgusting.
She could feed a family of 4 with those things flapping in the breeze. No wonder you fucked her ass.
[url]http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=70889[/url][/QUOTE]I like them pussy lips big. The bigger the better.

Post-Exposure Prophylaxis (HIV PEP)

There's heaps of info online if you're interested. The main thing is that it's certainly not a simple 'morning after medicine'. It's a month or more of at least two antiretroviral drugs...ie. the drugs they give HIV/AIDS patients. You'd want to be pretty damn sure the person you had sex with was HIV positive before you put yourself through all that!



[QUOTE=Piper1]While I was waiting at a sexual health clinic a few months back, I read one of the wall posters regarding a new anti-HIV 'morning after' medicine.

It said that if you'd had unsafe sex within the previous 48 hours, and were worried you'd exposed yourself to HIV, there's a new medication that will prevent HIV from developing (80% success rate if caught within 48 hours). How they measured this in clinical trials, I don't know.

Maybe Animby or another medical professional can provide more info on this new technology.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Piper1]While I was waiting at a sexual health clinic a few months back, I read one of the wall posters regarding a new anti-HIV 'morning after' medicine. [/QUOTE]Sorry. I've left Egypt and am happily ensconced in the LOS. The little brown lovelies leave little time for reading the forum.

There is no "morning after" pill for HIV. It's that simple. Post known exposure, there is a recommended four WEEK treatment with up to four various antiretroviral drugs.

Those drugs are very expensive, have many nasty side-effects and, as we all know, have very little ability to "cure" an HIV infection. Taken early and appropriately, they do offer a fair chance of avoiding infection after exposure.

I think condoms are a lot less expensive, easier on the body and more effective.

BTW, someone mentioned a home test kit for HIV. Sorry. There are NONE that are approved for this purpose (and I just did a quick MedLine search to make sure my knowledge was not outdated). There are some companies who offer home collections systems but these must then be sent off to a laboratory for analysis.

I used to work in central Africa and we had access to a latex protein agglutination test that gave results in 10-12 hours. Problem was it had a very high rate of false negatives. In other words, it missed a lot of infections.

And, as has already been mentioned, the best test in the world may miss an infection that is only a few days or even weeks old.

Hey, I don't like 'em, either but, please, use a condom!

Safe sex at its best!!(Awesome pics)


taken from D.K lee(china) section.

I haven't done oral sex on a thai girl yet - I hesitate because I'm affraid of getting an STD like herpes or ghonorea. On the other hand, it would be very nice :-) !!! Have any of you guys ever gotten an STD thru oral/DATY ? I not looking for any official statistics (everything in life can kill you...), rather your experiences and fist hand advice.

Thanks

I got chlamydia once. Most likely from a BBBJ. Very unpleasant but relatively easily dealt with.

I've done DATY on >100 girls over the years and never got anything as far as I can tell. But sure as hell, it can be that the first time you try it yourself you get it. Life can be a ***** and with sex there's always a minimal risk you're catching something even if you are careful.

For me, paid sex without DATY, without a BBBJ and without kissing just doesn't do it (I always cover up for intercourse, though). But you're not gonna get this without a price, i.e. taking some small risk.

I completely agree with Animby that there is no "morning after" pill for HIV. There's a antiretroviral postexposure prophylaxis but this is neither guaranteed to work nor without side effect. Here's what wikipedia says on the subject:

[QUOTE]In the case of HIV infection, post-exposure prophylaxis is a course of antiretroviral drugs which is thought to reduce the risk of seroconversion after events with high risk of exposure to HIV (e.g. unprotected anal or vaginal sex, needlestick injuries, or sharing needles). To be effective, it must be started as soon as possible after exposure and ideally within an hour [1]. The treatment for HIV lasts four weeks [2].

While there is compelling data to suggest that PEP after HIV exposure is extremely effective, there have been cases where it has failed. The regimen can be very demanding and have unpleasant side effects including malaise, fatigue, diarrhoea, headaches, nausea and vomiting [3].

According to one Australian study, two thirds of people taking PEP experienced mild to moderate side effects and one quarter of people taking PEP experienced severe side effects.[/QUOTE]Regarding the HIV test kit, FDA indeed approved a rapid HIV test kit which gives results in as little as 20 minutes. Here's a link providing the information:

[url]http://www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/NEWS/2002/NEW00852.html[/url]

I don't think it's endorsed as an over-the-counter self-test kit, though. So, I'm not sure what you get if you order from one of these dubious internet firms selling home self-test kit. Beware also this is an antibody test, so it only gives reliable results after 12 weeks or more after HIV infection.