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Hi,

Is it possible to do sex with 2 girls who make also lesbo action in some clubs?

If you know , can you tell me witch one and the price?

Thanks

A lack of german skills can actually be an advantage if you make the most of it and turn it into a game like "Name this body part" or "How many different ways can you say f*ck, etc." or "What am I doing now?" and then tickle, lick, kiss, etc.
Probably won't lead to the discovery of a cure for cancer, but helps to break the ice. BTW, I've used some of the same party games amongst English speakers ex- (In what language and what is a "muschy"?)

Njoy:)

Dani,

3 somes are simply double the price of th esession with one girl. So in most clubs 100€ for half an hour.

Lesbo shows prices vary from club to club. Some do it for an additional 25€ per girl for a light lesbo show and 50€ extra per woman for a serious lesbo show, with real pussy eating, adn not some fake looking stroking.

It is possioble, and if it is a big time fantasy go for it, otherwise I consider it a waste of time and money in most instances.

Personally, I think there is a definite advantage in speaking German in the FKKs. There is the obvious point: That it is simply more easy to communicate with many of the girls using the club's language of choice. But there is, perhaps a less obvious set of advantages:

In considering the question of whether or not speaking German in the FKK clubs is an advantage, one should think about whether the average FKK girl reacts and behaves differently towards guests she perceives as German vs Foreign/Tourist.

Personally, I think that many/most girls DO in fact treat a guest differently if she thinks he is a local German vs a foreign business man or tourist. The German guest will be a potential repeat visitor and source of much greater income. The German guest will be more FKK street-wise, so she will be less likely to try session tricks like charging for the couch action, rounding up the clock, and more likely to give more of herself during the session. If she perceives you as a foreigner or tourist or US/Brit soldier or whatever, she might type cast you and will quite possibly treat you differently from a German guest. This could well translate into a given girl giving DFK to German guests (or guests who speak German), but not to non-Germans. This type of thing...

After all, in her view, a German guest is quite likely complain to the management or at least spread the word amongst the larger club guest population that a given girl gives bad to sub-par performance.

Now since many of these Girls do not speak perfect German themselves, it is often possible to pass yourself off as a German or pretend you are, if your own German skills/accent, whilst not perfect, at least exceed the level of the girl's German. I often let the girls think I am German, even though a native-German speaker would immediatly know I am not....Maybe I am wrong, but I believe speaking German is an immense advantage in the FKK clubs. Granted this is not universally the case, but it is a significant trend, in my view.

Ortos

speaking russian with a non russian accent is definitely the biggest advantage.

I don't but wish I did.

If you speak it fluently a lot of girls will not trust you and think you might know someone who they know, but if you speak it in a way that they know you are not from a CIS state they will be able to communicate well with you.

Russian is the FKK latin for all the Poles/Romanians/Russians/Hungarians etc. They all speak a bit of Russian from school and use that to communicate.

Judging by the girls I like if I spoke russian and Polish I would be in heaven.

As to the repeat/non repeat customer, I always make sure that the girl knows I am a pretty regular guest although my German is limited.

You will usually get a very nice attitude from pretty much all nationalites if you pick up a few phrases in their native language that compliments the girls. Have the girls teach you the phrases, it can be quite fun

Chivaz

The new FKK Artemis will be opening on September 26th in Berlin. The website is [url]http://fkk-artemis.de[/url]

You can click on the British/American flag to get the info in English. It's a high-tech website with virtual tours.
Apparently their will be 70 girls working there and the focus seems to be on wellness/fitness. I understand no alcohol will be allowed to be consumed on premises.

I'll be in Berlin in November so I'll get a chance to report on it by then at the latest. Hopefully someone else can post a report before then.

[QUOTE=CBGBConnisur]Berlin is getting a new FKK club called Artemis, it is supposed to become the biggest FKK in Germany, and is particularly going to be suited to handling the large numbers of tourists expected to enter Germany for the World Cup in 2006. I guess we will finally have a reason for traveling outside of NRW and Hessen for pussy in Germany.[/QUOTE]

If you want a private language tutor, go to Berlitz!

These are places for fucking. If you have some other perverted wishes, keep them to yourselves!

I'll believe it when I read it. Most clubs have disappointed on opening. The only club that had anywhere near the number of girls they had promised on Opening night, was Oase2, which shut down forever 15 minutes after opening.

From what I am hearing Artemis is from the same people as Palace. They made a really nice club there, but it used to be a mediocre club for years until they switched it to FKK. They do a lot for the ambience, but have not proven that they can build and maintain a top class lineup and keep it through all seasons.

Berlin sounds easy, because there are no clubs of that sort in the city. But there are plenty of opportunities for paid sex there. The escort scene is huge, the street walker scene is bigger than anywhere else in Germany. There are tonnes of smallbars and night clubs with 2-7 girls. There is also one decent small size FKK in the form of La Folie. So there is no sex vacuum in that city. Along with this very large and diversified sex industry, there are people who are involved.

The town is very clearly in Russian (primarily) and Turkish (secondarily) hands. I hope the people runnign the club would have cleared there plans with the people who have something to say in this respect.

If they didn't then they won't get 70 girls together, just as World didn't get more than 30 girls on opening day (and the quality of some of them was appalling (I was there)). If they don't clear their plans with these groups, and if the groups see their livelihood wit the current set ups under serious threat, there are a number of things they can do to make sure the club doesn't make it through the first month. In the capital city of Germany, with all the politicians and diplomats, in the center of town, all it would take is one gun shot by whoever, and the place will be shut down quicker than you can put your clothes back on.

I wish the club well, but I hope they did all their homework, and don't expect 70 girls on opening night.

[QUOTE=Peter]If you want a private language tutor, go to Berlitz!

These are places for fucking. If you have some other perverted wishes, keep them to yourselves![/QUOTE]

Ah, Peter. Lets not forget those business cards from PHG that advertise the place as an "Institut für Weiterbildung" with among the many Katagorien offered in the "Kursangebot", three being "Fremdsprachen", "Rhetorik" and "Kommunikation". ;-)

Had more of my Profs in college looked like some of those PHG instructors, then I would have gone to class more often.


Cheerio,

Dedalus

FKK is addictive, this has been discussed before on this board, I didn’t imagine how much before entering the very first time that door in Wildenrath. There should be some kind of disclaimer message at the entrance of each FKK warning about it!

But FKK has much more side effects, and I’m curious if we share the same one.

FKK made me feel much more relaxed in life. This fabulous concept, probably the only one that answers to all human basic needs at the same time (lodging, food, clothing, social contacts and sex), is like a taste of paradise. Yes, if paradise exists, it must be something very close to what we experience in FKK. Paradise, happiness, it can be reached with only the basic needs, nothing more. Life is easy in fact, what are we running for? As long as I have the health and financial capabilities to go to FKK, I can deal with life (as I can answer to all my basic needs) and face the other problems that could occur (getting older, divorce, becoming lonely…).

FKK made me feel much more confident in life. Is there anything that can flatter more a man’s ego than having sex with more than ten different beautiful young girls in one week-end? I can have more sexy girls in one FKK tour than most men in a life time. I’m not afraid anymore of the usual middle aged men’s fears (having to face erection problems, getting older and loosing seduction, or having to stay with the same sex partner till death).

FKK made my life much more exciting. I met the most interesting persons from the most different countries, speaking different languages, it’s like travelling around the world in one night. I can fall in love several times a night in FKK. I can make all my sexual fantasies come true. It’s like being able to live several lifes in one. No one in normal life can even imagine what my life really is. The problem is that these wonderful experiences are not easy to share at home or at work. This forum answers the strong need to share all this.

FKK improved my personal sex life. Apart from some new techniques, I improved my erection control as well as my orgasm. And my partner in life became much more desirable, as I am not afraid anymore of the usual middle aged men’s fear. How sexy she can be when coming out from the shower, still wet with a white towel. It’s FKK at home!

FKK improved my family life. Yes, I don’t need to put my family in danger having an affair with another woman. I even don’t look anymore at other women. When some dude says to me: Look at that sexy hot girl!”, I’m just thinking: “Poor guy, this girl that makes you crazy is for me in the category of -a no go, not even for free with a Hilton suite-, as I can have 10 girls in a week-end and all of them much more sexy than her!”.

There are also some funny things that have changed.

Before I compared sometimes a beautiful girl to a famous actress, now I sometimes look to a movie thinking: “Hey, that actress is as beautiful as a FKK girl.”.

Germany looked to me before as a boring industrial cold country, it now looks much more sexy than many other tropical destinations, and I have to hide my enthusiasm when I have a trip planned to Germany. This is the good news with FKK, a trip to Germany is not suspicious, even with a bill from that famous Aral station in Ober Erlenbach, or that famous Ibis hotel near Konigbergerstr. in Frankfurt.

Did you ever notice also the effect you have on women the next day after having your brain fucked out in an FKK? It’s something very strange. I don’t know whether it is because once the sexual issue being solved, a man can finally communicate with a woman, or whether a woman instinctively feels and enjoys to be with a man sexually satisfied. May be it’s simply because a man is completely relaxed and self confident, or because a woman doesn’t fear anymore to be sexually harassed (gays for example are known to be popular among women).

Looking forward your reaction and your own experience.

Routard - I think you have got everything fairly spot on. So I won't talk about the bits you mention, but instead will cover something different

What I noticed was that fairly soon I began to find the talking to the girls of much more interest! The sex alone can be a bit meaningless - I remember recently going to Oase, looking at the girls and just thinking - well, what am I here for?. Do I really want to screw every girl in the world? So I left after 20 minutes! However I was off my game that day so it is not typical

The good thing about FKK is that I can have sex with anyone - but someone with a fine mind and a good heart is a greater challenge to connect to. The variation of emotional and mental relationship is even more varied than the sexual relationship. If you are in a room with someone then it is possible to share things which you would never talk about at work or in a bar. For me each provider I meet is unique and I value her as a person - however it means that I am getting incredibly choosy. I now want someone who is sexy, but someone who is willing to be a real person.

The visuals are good, but I have learn that the visuals don't make a good session. Nor even good sex. In the end what counts is whether they put a bit of their heart and soul in it (if it is just their body it doesn't count). Then the sex is a real event.

So that is why the one consistent theme in all my posts has always been that I treat them as equals in every way, even the ones who are bad apples

There are dangers however in getting addicted to FKK. The fantasy world is real and linked to the rest of our lives in the way we carry our memories and emotions. If we end up seeking at an FKK the sort of relationship we can have outside an FKK then we are heading for trouble. I met a man recently who was devastated that his favourite had left a club at short notice and he could not contact her. Getting too attached is a more common event than is reported on the forum - I had a lot of PMs at one point from men who had crossed the boundaries.

If this post is disjointed - apologies.

[QUOTE=Routard]

Germany looked to me before as a boring industrial cold country, it now looks much more sexy than many other tropical destinations, and I have to hide my enthusiasm when I have a trip planned to Germany. This is the good news with FKK, a trip to Germany is not suspicious, even with a bill from that famous Aral station in Ober Erlenbach, or that famous Ibis hotel near Konigbergerstr. in Frankfurt.

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For some reason, industrial won't describe Germany in a decade or two, from what I hear most German companies are exporting jobs to Asia and other cheaper locales. I even found out a Volkswagen I was looking at was assembled in Mexico. I was reading somewhere that the Ruhr is reworking itself in some kind of hippy Bohemian image to attract tourists. Its actually a known fact that Germany has had an active sex industry for years. For most people countries and regions that are stereotyped as sexy include Australia, Brazil, France, Italy, Argentina, and the West Coast USA. The reality is with the exception of Brazil and Argentina, German FKKs offer better quality for dirtcheap prices, 50EUR for having sex with a Playboy calibre centerfold? That is too good for most people to believe. In New York, where I used to live, even a crack ***** wouldn't give you a handjob for that much money. German FKKs tend to cater mostly to locals, and don't advertise themselves like clubs in other countries. Ever notice FKKs tend to be in very inconspicious locales?

I remember a guy from California used to travel to Nevada for p4p then discovered Europe in the form of Amsterdam, took a side trip to Germany, and became an afficianado of FKKS, finding the cost of a five day romp in Germany to be CHEAPER than a five day romp in nearby Las Vegas. A session in the Chicken Ranch can cost between 500 to 1000US with a woman that is half as attractive and sexual as the worst looking woman in an FKK, a decent hotel room in Las Vegas costs around $150US(and I am talking about Hojo not the Bellagio/Luxor), so for a five day trip, it will cost $1000-$1200 for room and board, and assuming you fuck two women a day that will come to $5000US to $10,000US for five days of sexual fun in LV. On the other hand you can go to Europe and get real quality sex worlds above anything in North America for less. Roundtrip airfare from the West Coast US to Frankfurt costs around 600-900US depending on time of year and airline, a night at an Ibis(European HOJO) costs about 50-80EUR, one session plus entry at an FKK ranges from 70EUR to a 120EUR( the average cost gets cheaper as you have more sessions), even with the weak US Dollar Germany is quite a bargain next to Vegas. So five days of room and board come to 500EUR(room and board)+800EUR Airfare+ 2000EUR(50EUR a day for transport to clubs, 30 to 65 EUR entry, 300EUR for four to six half hour session which usually include kissing, daty, and bbbj) = 3300EUR or about $4000US versus $6,000US to $11,000US for five days of Vegas not including some time at the Casinos and other entertainment. The guy who went to Vegas had sex with about five to ten women while the guy who went to Germany, shagged a minimum of 20 to 30 gorgeous ladies.

[QUOTE=Routard]FKK made me feel much more relaxed in life. This fabulous concept, probably the only one that answers to all human basic needs at the same time (lodging, food, clothing, social contacts and sex), is like a taste of paradise. [/QUOTE]Routard,

Nice post. Funny, I used to return home to my wife after an FKK-filled business trip and wonder why I didn't feel more guilt for my "sins." Eventually I realized that while I was feeling quite guilty, the feelings of happiness were much more powerful and crowded out everything else.

Sounds absurd, but today I have no doubt that FKKs can be a good thing for a marriage. When taken at the correct dosage, and in the right way, FKK clubs are simply good medicine for your soul. It fulfills a basic need that polite society forgot to tell you existed.

Now if only someone could create an equivalent for our wives (but I wonder how many of us are ready for that?).

Shiatsu,

I agree 100% with you, I should have mentionned this also in my list of FKK side effects.

With the overflow of sex, I'm also much more into discovering the girls' personality. And sometimes you can indeed meet the most interesting person. I have to admit I had often sex in FKK just because it was the easiest way to learn to know better a girl and build up a special relationship with her. Hey, is that not supposed to be a woman's attitude? Once the sexual pressure being relieved, we are may be not that different. It's nice reading on this board sometimes Cordelia's opinion. As a side effet, I can say FKK learned me to understand much more women.

You are right to warn about getting in love with a girl. Yes, as I'm passionate, I fall in love, but only for the night. I never had a regular girl, as I don't have a regular FKK at first. In my opinion, having a regular girl is like having an affair, and that's exactly what I don't want to. It's my red line I don't want to cross and my way of dealing with the moral issue about our hobby.