How's the talent at the Frankfurt clubs? What's the ranking from best lineup to worst for Sharks, Oase, World and Mainhattan? And for those who've ventured up towards Dusseldorf how would Aca, Samya, GT, LR and Oceans fit into the mix?
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How's the talent at the Frankfurt clubs? What's the ranking from best lineup to worst for Sharks, Oase, World and Mainhattan? And for those who've ventured up towards Dusseldorf how would Aca, Samya, GT, LR and Oceans fit into the mix?
[QUOTE=Neurosynth;1941535] So I'm at a (former?) RTC on a couch with a girl. I whisper in her ear that I want AO. She whispers in mine that she's quite willing. We go to the room. We have AO sex. We leave the room and I pay her.
How in the world are the legal authorities going to be able to arrest and prosecute me, or even know it happened? And if this law is so unenforcible, can there be any doubt that the marketplace competition will result in availability?
My prediction is maybe a 20% drop in availability and a 20% increase in cost.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Craiova;1941545]Very good and after the sex she whispers in your ear "oh darling it was so great and therefore you give me instead of the normal 50 euro now 500 euro otherwise I report you to police and as proof I have your cum in my pussy. And don't worry if you haven't enough cash, there's an ATM. " Triple LOL.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Neurosynth;1942399]Nonsense. First of all, that's not enforcement of the law, that's extortion. My question was how is this new law enforceable. It basically isn't.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SvenFKK;1943092]WRONG. First, your plan would involve you carrying out the extortion. Second, it is not extortion to report a crime, or to threaten to report one. (Whether this should be a crime is a separate question.).
And, yes, it is enforceable.[/QUOTE]Sorry for the multiple quotes, but this conversation has gotten confused.
What I'm saying is that in the scenario I outlined, a more or less typical FKK encounter between 2 wiling people, I don't see how the law can be enforced. If someone can take the scenario I started with at the top, and then add a few lines to the narrative describing how I end up being arrested, I'll be most happy to read same.
My point to Craiova was that he wasn't showing how the law itself could be enforced, he was showing how the law might lead to opportunities for extortion.
My reply was, essentially, that the threat of extortion wouldn't have to be taken seriously because if the girl carried through on her threat, it would significantly hurt her too. She might, for example, lose her job.
The law is for all varieties of PaySex and not only clubs.
HB.
[QUOTE=Neurosynth;1943691]
My point to Craiova was that he wasn't showing how the law itself could be enforced, he was showing how the law might lead to opportunities for extortion.
My reply was, essentially, that the threat of extortion wouldn't have to be taken seriously because if the girl carried through on her threat, it would significantly hurt her too. She might, for example, lose her job.[/QUOTE]
It also includes all parties involved from the article I read, if a prostitute breaks the law she's also guilty.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1943653]Very popular, one of the biggest fairs in Frankfurt. But almost no influence on the Frankfurt clubs as the bookworms are more interested in reading.
HB.[/QUOTE]Interesting. I think of myself as a nerd, but a horny nerd I guess, LOL.
A side topic but who even buys books anymore? It has been ages since I bought a hard copy, since Kindle, iPad etc. Almost 100% of my reading is on some sort of screen now.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1943653]Very popular, one of the biggest fairs in Frankfurt. But almost no influence on the Frankfurt clubs as the bookworms are more interested in reading.
HB.[/QUOTE]Is this another one of your 'expert' analyses? LOL.
Palace is holding their Octoberfest on this bookfair weekend for one purpose, that being all the horny book lovers out there. Each time I have been to that octoberfest event some 80% of the clients came from the book messe.
If you like sexy beermaid outfits, I'd put Palace on my list for the 19th this year though. Easily the sexiest themed event I have been to also... from their website it looks like they have extended it to the 2nd and 3rd of oct as well now. At least the poster has costumes of beermaids as well. A winning formula for sure...
[QUOTE=SvenFKK;1943091]First, this explicitly forbids gang-bang and flatrate clubs, even if the girls agree to the conditions in the case of gang-bang clubs. With respect to flate-rate clubs, it seems to be that there has to be at least the impression that a girl can refuse a certain customer. That's already the case. So, flat-rate clubs could continue to exist and advertise themselves as such, provided they don't claim that you can have as much sex as you want, but you can have it with whomever you want. So, I don't see a problem here. With gang-bang clubs, advertising as such would be a problem, but, as has happened elsewhere in the past, there is nothing to prevent a "spontaneous" gang-bang--like session.
It also makes it clear that private sex parties are not affected. However, it is also clear that a club can't just claim to be hosting a private party, even if the girls pay entrance fees as well.[/QUOTE]For me the law will touch all the prostitution business in Germany, and I see mainly 2 consequences the first less Romanian girls, more german girls in the FKK as in the past and secondly a increase of the prices. The police will use this law to reinforce all kind of control to be really sure that the girls are completely free to travel and act like they wish.
I am a newbie to FKK, so a question.
- Can the customers bring a smartphone into the club?
[QUOTE=Vvnbuw;1943754]I am a newbie to FKK, so a question.
- Can the customers bring a smartphone into the club?[/QUOTE]It depends on how you plan to use it. To film: probably not in most of the clubs. To browse internet and stuff: some of the NRW clubs do allow it.
I never had success using my smartphone in any of the popular Hessian FKK clubs, partly because of wifi unavailability.
I was able to use it in some of the NRW clubs. GT, LR, ACA and Oceans had wifi and I used my smartphone inside the club for browsing .
[QUOTE=Lalabo;1943766]It depends on how you plan to use it. To film: probably not in most of the clubs. To browse internet and stuff: some of the NRW clubs do allow it.
I never had success using my smartphone in any of the popular Hessian FKK clubs, partly because of wifi unavailability.
I was able to use it in some of the NRW clubs. GT, LR, ACA and Oceans had wifi and I used my smartphone inside the club for browsing .[/QUOTE]Oase has good Wi-Fi (at least in the restaurant / jacuzzi / upstairs lounge area). Mainhattan has it at the entrance to the club. Sharks and World do not have Wi-Fi. Don't know about Palace.
[QUOTE=Optimist;1943152]As has been written so many times: wait and see.
[/QUOTE]You misunderstand. I was curious when the law starts. God damned women and their liberation. Why can't they let me be a dirty old man in peace?
[QUOTE=Pistons;1943731]Each time I have been to that octoberfest event some 80% of the clients came from the book messe.[/QUOTE]No idea where you celebrate Oktoberfest but for sure with this statement never ever at a FKK club.
[QUOTE=Craiova;1943811]No idea where you celebrate Oktoberfest but for sure with this statement never ever at a FKK club.[/QUOTE]Palace did have some kind of Octoberfest motto parties. But still Buchmesse doesn't have much influence on the clubs. Pistons: Yes, this was one of my expert advice, free for you and all others.
HB.
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1943740]For me the law will touch all the prostitution business in Germany, and I see mainly 2 consequences the first less Romanian girls, more german girls in the FKK as in the past and secondly a increase of the prices. The police will use this law to reinforce all kind of control to be really sure that the girls are completely free to travel and act like they wish.[/QUOTE]Why? You think German girls have no pimp? OK they don't make taxi, they play ghost, going to make tattoos.
[QUOTE=Craiova;1943811]No idea where you celebrate Oktoberfest but for sure with this statement never ever at a FKK club.[/QUOTE]Two and three years ago at Palace. I can even tell you which girls were there and the color of their costumes. A few at least.
HB, my point being that perhaps the bookmesse drew more guys to the nearer clubs like Palace/Mainhatten in the past. But who knows now with the recent Automech draw towards Sharks how far the crowds will move...
Still it was not as crowded as during the automech. But still it was about 80% of the palace crowd and the reason why palace is putting their octoberfest party so late and at that date (19th this year, so I will miss it it seems. Though it seems they are having a party tomorrow and on monday also)