Chat Rooms & Pen Pals

[QUOTE=Goferring;2265165]Sorry. I won't be following up. I'm only 1 out of the 3 requirements: truely bi chicks are great but I'm not a sub and I don't take photos.[/QUOTE]It could be a challenge, to turn her to be the sub, LOL.

[QUOTE=Member#1088;2265224]It could be a challenge, to turn her to be the sub, LOL.[/QUOTE]Or her girlfriend vs MF doms. That could get interesting You got me thinking. LOL.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2265234]Or her girlfriend vs MF doms. That could get interesting You got me thinking. LOL.[/QUOTE]I would be fun and a heck of a teaching report for the newbies even without photographic documentation.

To dom a dom, what would that make you for the girls that she dom, hum you be their double master? LOL.

If I archive my Viber and WhatsApp chats to Google Drive, does that include any images included in those chats?

[QUOTE=Goferring;2265535]If I archive my Viber and WhatsApp chats to Google Drive, does that include any images included in those chats?[/QUOTE]I think so, and more than that, all images from at least whatsapp are often saved directly to the clouds like OneDrive or Google drive. To be checked, depending on your wish to keep them or not.

I've been playing around with Tantan recently and "matched" with a few hot looking Chinese girls who are based in China. The first alarm bell that should go off is when you consider why a pretty young Chinese girl (non-hooker) would match with me (or you). The second alarm will go off when you get a fraud warning message from Tantan when you accept the invitation. This has probably been brought about by complaints they have received. This is shown in the picture below.

They will then get you to chat with them on WeChat or someother platform and get you off Tantan altogether. If you get past all this, they will then cultivate a friendship over a few weeks. Nothing sexual, but just general chit chat about life and how well they are doing in business and in bitcoin trading. Note that bitcoin trading is illegal in China, so when asked about this, they will say they have an offshore account. There will be plenty of pictures on their profile pages about celebrations, buying brand name goods, holidays etc to give the illusion of success. Periodically, they will step out of the conversation to "check the charts". A few hours later they will come back show you a fake trading slip showing that they made USD $40 K or $25 K etc from bitcoin trading. I know that you can make profits on volatility, but short term trading is a zero sum game and it's not possible to consistently make money like this on bitcoin. There is no established pattern for bitcoin and the trend analysis is meaningless. It's not as if it's based on anything tangible.

So the friendship will continue and they will encourage you to consider bitcoins since it's so easy to get rich and apparently everyone in China is rolling in bitcoin profits. They will then offer to teach you how to trade. This is through helping you set up a simulation account with one of their brokers who is in on the scam. They will then ask you to give them your name, email and address. At this point I said goodbye and bailed out. I just wanted to go as far as possible to see what they were up to.

If you go beyond this step, I think they will show that you have made huge dummy profits on the simulation trades. After a few days, they will ask if you now want to trade for real since you are now ready to make millions. Once you hand them your bank account details or deposit the capital into your real trading account, you can imagine where it will go. Bitcoin is completely unregulated, so if you lose your cash, there is no recourse.

In summary, look out for the following:
1. Very pretty Chinese girl, usually an 8+
2. Gallery will have pictures of lobster dinners, Chanel bags, holidays abroad
3. They will be successful businesswomen - wholesale trading, cosmetics, retail, training etc
4. Bitcoins won't be introduced until a few days later
5. Conversation will not be about dating/sex/meetings. It will be about general life in order to establish trust over a few weeks
6. They find their mark and play the long game
7. They will attempt to get you interested in quick profits from Bitcoins and to envy their success

[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2267452]I've been playing around with Tantan r......vy their success[/QUOTE]It should be one forum here in another forum to report scams like this and also any girls that are scamers out there, it would save lots of times and headache for all the members.

That's it, I'm soooo done putting in ground work on the online hookup sites!

Last trip to Davao, I started out 4 weeks beforehand and it was an absolute nightmare. This time I cut it down to 2 weeks, thinking that the lack of active P4 P scene would need some foreplanning and organisation. I kept nearly 100 contacts active for that time. Do you know how far above my pay grade it is to have all those conversations, remembering who are nurses, who are teachers and who will finish their studies in 3 weeks? I just about went insane.

Given all that, guess how many of those paid dividends when I arrived? None. Nada. Zip!!

30% dissapeared when I arrived.

30% just fucked me around to the point of exasperation.

30% preferred their job or family over sucking my dick.

A surprising number were simply scared to meet an unknown white guy when I actually arrived.

And my personal favorite: one had a wedding to go to. Her own!!

Contrast that to fantastic online finds with between 2 to 36 hours notice:

1 great platonic first date from Cupid with follow up thanks the next day.

1 classy hoe from Tinder.

2 drop ins from Cupid.

1 drop in from Pina.

No more of this "see you in 2 weeks" bullshit for me.

Go check out the prices. US $300+. And don't even think of bareback. Lots of cuties advertising so someone has $$ to burn.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2267691]That's it, I'm soooo done putting in ground work on the online hookup sites![/QUOTE]Hi G Man,

I can relate. Never been to Davao but similar experience and problems elsewhere in PI and Indo. My most recent trip was not my best because the stomach flu put a damper on my activities for a few days, almost a week. Something I ate in Jakarta no doubt. Nevertheless the girls are 10 X better than anything in sex prison USA. In comparison to Dominican Republic, however, the PI and Indonesia are not as good in my opinion. Super easy to connect on Cupid there, super sexy / busty fun girls under 30, comparable prices. The only drawback is Spanish but not knowing it is not necessarily a liability. Cheers.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2267691]That's it, I'm soooo done putting in ground work on the online hookup sites!

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Given all that, guess how many of those paid dividends when I arrived? None. Nada. Zip!!

.....[/QUOTE]But all of them would have accepted a Western Union donation to help with Grannies hemorrhoids.

I personally have had pretty good luck on the dating sites. They are in fact my major hunting ground. I am usually active on two of Tinder, PL and SA. Will be on each a couple months and then give the site a rest and let some new sweeties join up.

I also initially cast a wide net but narrow it down pretty quickly. Only those who do not display even a hint of any of my red flags make it through the continuous screening. I'd say out of every 100 contacts I (or sometimes they) initiate, I may actually invite meet one or two. Out of every 10 girls I invite I see 9 o 10 of them.

My major red flags are any discussion of money, without reciprocal sex before meeting, any hint of any jealousy. If they say they have a problem, it usually means money so I terminate the conservation there. If they start asking how long I been in Phils have I ever had a pina GF before likewise.

With only a few exceptions of every meet up I have fucked them all. A couple have turned out not at all like the girl in the chat, fake pictures, pictures 10 years and 10 kgs ago. Loud obnoxious or just turned me off I have refused a few. Only missed on 2 that I wanted. Just over a 100 in the last year, some have lived in for a couple of months and some just visited once. Many return visits from those I deem worthy of a repeat visit. Have Some have taken a few dates and some have been naked in 5 minutes of meeting, That part you just have to adapt to the girl.

[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2268496] If they start asking how long I been in Phils have I ever had a pina GF before likewise.
.[/QUOTE]Nice report KB. I'm new to dating sites. Why are questions about your previous visits to Phils a deal breaker?

Also, do you get them on Viber or What's App video chat as part of the screening process? Some members have said if they only want to use Skype, that's a deal breaker. Why is that?

Are you up front with them regarding your intentions? Like just seeking fun or do they think they can get you as a LT BF?

[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2268511] I'm new to dating sites. Why are questions about your previous visits to Phils a deal breaker[/QUOTE]Online Dating Sites Glossary.

Can we Skype? I've got a Nigerian war lord on a parallel account typing while I sit here and look hot.

Do you have a pina GF? Can I get a long con set here?

Fun: just looking for hook ups.

How long have you been in the PI? Do you know true prices? Are you an easy mark?

I'm not a prostitute: tell me you are giving me taxi money on the way out. Taxis are 1500 p here.

I'm a good girl / looking for a serious BF. Don't tell my friends I sucked your dick for cash.

Is your wife a pina? I'm coming around to fuck you senseless but I don't want some psycho b1 tch stabbing me because of it.

It's good that you are being honest: I don't give a shit about your wife, family, mysterious STD. I'm on the way.

My XXXX is sick, broken, being repaired: I need money.

My signal is too slow to video: my photos are fake and I'm a 38 yo bakla.

What hotel are you staying at? How much can I charge?

Enjoy, G.

[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2268511]Also, do you get them on Viber or What's App video chat as part of the screening process[/QUOTE]Get them onto a chat app ASAP 1/ so that you have a continuous way of contacting them when you or they are off the app 2/ so that you do not get buried and forgotten amongst the '000's of other messages 3/ to enable video chat. This is esp true for Tinder. If you can keep a Tinder girl chatting within the app for more than 4 comments, you're a stud.

If physical appearance is super important to you then confirm photos with video. Expect to loose 1 to 2/10 in hotness vs photos. It's always best to meet with a bail out option just in case (lobbies, JollieBees etc) rather than give her your room number.

My gaydar is much better on video and in face than from looking at photos. Having said that most LBs will tell you if there is a surprise coming.

Enjoy, G.

[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2268511]Are you up front with them regarding your intentions? Like just seeking fun or do they think they can get you as a LT BF?[/QUOTE]I'm polite but honest with everyone so that 1/ there are no surprises 2/ I'm not giving the impression that I've got something to hide and can be shaken down or blackmailed 3/ I'm too stupid to remember which lie I told to which person. Numerous girls have told me that they have heard all the BS stories before, know when they are being lied to and don't care about what happens out side the room. I normally get only 1 or 2 girls a trip that will not see me on moral grounds.

Don't underestimate the number of girls that are just out for some fun too and don't need guys making up stories just to bed them.