Tokyo

[QUOTE=Japanguy;1355941]Do you think a woman wants to spend an hour with someone they are unable to communicate with or do you want the translator to accompany you to the room as well? (like in Black Adder)[/QUOTE]I have to check out Black Adder! But seriously, I've mongered with providers worldwide who I couldn't "talk" to, but we could communicate via hand signals, smiles, nods etc. The translator / wingman would be there to explain the rules, rates, etc. It seems that in Japan there is a stigma against foreigners that is greater than at most other places. Of course, I have been in German places where half the girls don't line up for a foreigner, but that means that half the girls don't mind giving GFE to a stranger who they can't "talk" to. This omnipresent boycott of foreign speaking punters seems pretty odd IMHO.

BTW, I wouldn't mind a wingman to explain how to use those weird vending machines in ramen shops. Do Japanese noodles need to be understood as well?

[QUOTE=Dreams; 1356254]As far as I know.

Check the forum for Yoshiwara. There are some open to gaijins there.[/QUOTE]I forgot to add NewYork NewYork and Champs in Ueno as posisible options.

But beware, the providers are often ordinary housewifes, some of them in their 50s. And you cannot choose. And no FS, but sumata is usually quite good, and it is very cheap

(9600 Yens).

Seaech the forum for those names, and you will have detailed reports.

[QUOTE=Muku1; 1356335]As Dreams says, you really should check out Yoshiwara, where there are several soaps that will take you as a customer, even if many of them might not. Usually the more you are willing to pay for a "high class" soapland, the better your chances are.

Also, there are at least 8 or 9 soaplands in the Shinjuku area, several operated by the Kadoebi group. The only time I have been to a soap, it's been in Yoshiwara.

Someone asked about Don Juan in Shinjuku on another forum, though I don't know if he ever tried to get in. Here is their website:

[url]http://www.donjuan.jp/top.php[/url][/QUOTE]Thank you Muku1 and Dreams, I definitely will check out Yoshiwara. It's only 1 hr transit time according to Google map. Any name or web link of Soapland in Yoshiwara will be appreciated.

BTW Don Juan.

[url]http://www.donjuan.jp/top.php[/url]

Is only 3 minutes walking from my hotel. Thank you Muku1 for your suggestion. But they are expensive at ¥65, 000 compared with what I get in Toronto. But I may be reading it wrong:

[url]https://www.donjuan.jp/system.php?rKey=[/url]

[QUOTE=Dreams; 1356444]I forgot to add NewYork NewYork and Champs in Ueno as posisible options.

But beware, the providers are often ordinary housewifes, some of them in their 50s. And you cannot choose. And no FS, but sumata is usually quite good, and it is very cheap

(9600 Yens).

Seaech the forum for those names, and you will have detailed reports.[/QUOTE]I found a number of soaplands on this link: [url]http://www.tokyopinkguide.com/soaplands.asp.[/url] I hope they are not over 50s haha. I will get all my FS from Japanese girls before leaving Toronto.

[quote=hellopanda3088; 1356212]hi,

i have a question for all the asian guys: when you play, do you let them know up front that you're not japanese?

i'm of asian descent and my japanese is of daily conversation level but my pronunciation and speed is such that lots of people think i'm japanese unless i speak for a long time.

and i have some questions for everybody: is it important to call in advance before going to fashion health / esute / etc?

and for deli heru, do you have to give your name? real or fake? and is it normal to wait at the lh or outside somewhere?

thanks![/quote]when i play, i never let them know up front i'm not japanese. the girl figures it out right quick, though, and it is never a problem. if they suspect i am not japanese, i tell them straight up, but then they usually just ask if i can clearly understand the rules, and if so, it is no problem. from what i can tell (and i am asian, so perhaps my thinking is skewed) , looking asian just generally means less trouble for the girls in terms of a bunch of things like worrying about dick size, manners, racism or xenophobia, etc, so combine that with being able to understand when the girl is asking you to stop or tone it down, and you add up to be a perfect customer.

now i know that there are asians who are hung like horses, and other asians who slap women around, but again, speaking in general, a japanese girl won't be pissed off at the tencho if he gives her a guy who looks, acts, and sounds like any regular japanese john.

next question: it isn't usually necessary to call in advance unless you usually don't state a preference for girls (shimei nashi) and are repeating a place, and you want to be sure that you don't repeat with the same girl as last time.

for deri health, i use an alias. i've never met a girl who actually asked cared what my name was. they are more interested to make me know what their name is, so i will request them, and repeat.

be sure to report your experiences! good luck.

[quote=hellopanda3088; 1356212]hi,

i posted this on the kansai thread as well but only got one answer, so i'm posting here as well.

i have a question for all the asian guys: when you play, do you let them know up front that you're not japanese?

i'm of asian descent and my japanese is of daily conversation level but my pronunciation and speed is such that lots of people think i'm japanese unless i speak for a long time.

and i have some questions for everybody: is it important to call in advance before going to fashion health / esute / etc?

and for deli heru, do you have to give your name? real or fake? and is it normal to wait at the lh or outside somewhere?

sorry for the torrent of questions, but i've been reading this and other forums and can't quite find anything.

thanks![/quote]tell them you are foreign born japanese and you will do fine.

[QUOTE=Matsui San;1356899]Tell them you are foreign born japanese and you will do fine.[/QUOTE]Absolutely right.

for delivery health, hotel health, etc, i think it is important to call ahead and make a reservation. otherwise, you will surely end up with ugliest girl in the shop. this is both because you will be forced to choose from the leftover girls that weren't taken with reservations, and becasue without a reservation, the staff in the shop will steer foreign customers to the ugliest girl in the shop. trust me. i have wasted a fair amount of money at delivery places without making a reservation.

at every delivery health i have ever been to, you go to a love hotel and book the room, and then call the shop with the room number and then wait inside the room.

[quote=hellopanda3088; 1356212]hi,

i posted this on the kansai thread as well but only got one answer, so i'm posting here as well.

i have a question for all the asian guys: when you play, do you let them know up front that you're not japanese?

i'm of asian descent and my japanese is of daily conversation level but my pronunciation and speed is such that lots of people think i'm japanese unless i speak for a long time.

and i have some questions for everybody: is it important to call in advance before going to fashion health / esute / etc?

and for deli heru, do you have to give your name? real or fake? and is it normal to wait at the lh or outside somewhere?

sorry for the torrent of questions, but i've been reading this and other forums and can't quite find anything.

thanks![/quote]

All.

Thought I would post on the board asking if anybody has found any nice gaijin-OK FS-OK girls at Grimpeur recently?

As you can see from my recent posts, I've called asking about quite a few of their new chicks recently, but they all seem to be gaijin NG.

I've been looking / reading about it, but it seems like places in Tokyo are hit-or-miss as to the services they provide? Are there any CFS places in Shibuya? Or am I missing something?

Lately when I'm mongering in Shibuya, I usually end up at Shibuya Garden (

[url]http://www.garden-gal.com/top.php[/url]

). It's just a standard deli-heru place but I've been pretty happy with the quality of the girls so far. They're fairly young and definitely have the "Shibuya style" to them. The first time I went there, I didn't call or anything, just showed up. There's a pretty detailed map on their site of where they are. Click on the last map on the access page. And when you get to the place and go up to the 2F, some guy will come out and ask you what store you're there for. I just said "Garden" and he told me where it was (around the corner and on the right). It seems like there's about 10 different shops (that are really just different counters) in that place.

I only talked to the guy behind the counter in Japanese, but he did seem to be testing my Japanese a bit. Even though I don't look Japanese at all and look just like any blond hair, blue eyed Westerner, he sort of spoon fed me the answer to say that I'm a "half" and that satisfied him enough. So if you go, I'd recommend just saying you're a half and you've been to deli-heru before and you shouldn't have any problems. Just be sure to get a members card for next time. I'm not sure about English though, but I have a feeling it might be difficult.

After that it's pretty standard. Pick the girl from some photos. Which in my experience so far have been fairly accurate. And he'll call the girl to make sure she's fine with a half (none so far have said no). Then there's a hotel that he'll recommend two doors down that's 2500 for 90 minutes. Just call with your room number when you get there and 5 minutes later the girl shows up. The service is the same as most other deli-heru but if you're in Shibuya and looking for a change from Grimpeur it's not a bad option.

[QUOTE=Gobo42;1357539]I've been looking / reading about it, but it seems like places in Tokyo are hit-or-miss as to the services they provide? Are there any CFS places in Shibuya? Or am I missing something?[/QUOTE]No, the service is very standardized and very consistent. I suggest reading the forum or finding a primer on the Japanese scene.

[QUOTE=Lost For Words; 1357687]Lately when I'm mongering in Shibuya, I usually end up at Shibuya Garden (

[url]http://www.garden-gal.com/top.php[/url]

). It's just a standard deli-heru place.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the heads up. The girls look hot.

Just a correction of terms- The type of place you are describing is 'hotel health', not delivery health. The difference is the process:

A. Delivery health (usually spelled 'deriheru' in Katakana).
1. Go to love hotel. Call the store. Tell them what girl you want to see and your room number (you can usually reserve a girl before hand)
2. Girl shows up at the love hotel, and you pay the girl directly.
This is strictly an 'outcall' type establishment.

B. Hotel health ('hoteruherusu' in Katakana).
1. Go to their store. Pick a girl. Pay. (again, often you can reserve a girl before hand, but you have to go to the store to pay)
2. Go to love hotel. Call the store. Tell them your room number.
3. Girl shows up at love hotel.
This is a hybrid incall / outcall establishment.

These are both descendant from 'fashion health' places, which are incall only. You go to the store, you pay at the store, you play with the girl at the store. I think delivery health places are the most popular nowadays because it's more discreet for the guy, and it's cheaper for the store to not have a phyiscal presence.

I guess what I meant to say is that at one este I read that you get FS, and at another it's just a HJ.

[QUOTE=Japanguy;1357713]No, the service is very standardized and very consistent. I suggest reading the forum or finding a primer on the Japanese scene.[/QUOTE]

Hi guys,

I've been going to this place lately. [url]www.genkai-lovers.com[/url]

60 min 8000 yen + hotel (2000 yen) = 10, 000.

80 min 10, 000 yen + hotel (2500 or 2800 yen.see below) = 12, 500 or 12, 800 yen.

You can also get 3P for 14, 000. I haven't tried this yet.

Delivery Health CFS with Chinese girls in their mid-twenties. There are two girls there. Rino and Sara (the newer and younger ones) that are Gaijin NG. Here are reports on 4 of the girls that I've been with. I've had great service with them all. I've always gone the 80 minute for 10, 000 yen option. The second time you are with a girl, they add 1, 000 yen, since it counts as "Hon Shimei". This is pretty standard. The tencho was not exactly friendly at first, worried about "size", but he's always been polite. When you are finished with the girl, he always asks to talk to you and thanks you. Also, apparently they don't do reservations very far in advance. I tried a same-day reservation in the morning and he told me to call again in the evening. Recently, he's warmed up to me more. I think I'm the only gaijin customer he has. If you think it will get you some mileage, you can say you are Ken's friend. There are 2 hotels I have used here. One is Cosmos, which is a rental room. 90 min. 2500 yen. The other is Hotel Ai, which is a decent love hotel. 100 min. 2800 yen. The normal price is 3800 yen at this place, but the tencho can get you a 1000 yen discount. He will usually reserve a room for you under the name Sato.

Yuria. Face. 7, Body- 8. Great GFE, tight pussy, decent massage too. Very slender (56 cm) , nice tits. I like slim girls. Unfortunately, she went back to China for awhile.

Marie. Face. 7, Body 6. The best massage of the four I tried. She used to work at a massage place. Very professional. Very nice girl. A little thick in the middle but not fat.

Ayumi. Face. 6, Body 6. The second best massage after Marie. Not a looker, but a nice girl.

Hitomi. Face. 7, Body 8. Great GFE, lots of energy, nice and tight pussy. D-cups. Has a tat on her breasts. Called me "sukebe" when I was banging her. Nice kisser, makes lots of sucking sounds.

Overall, I think this is great value for the money. Been there 6 times, and haven't been disappointed. The girls are not drop-dead gorgeous, but they are better than average, and they are honest and kind.