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Hey,

If anyone is in Wan Chai and up for a beer, drop me a message. I am stuck in HK longer than usual and need to get out and have a drink and maybe chat up a few women.

I had a couple of friends telling me that 37 dundas has gone downhill so I didn't visit for a while. I finally decided to try it out again last week and this week and both times were terrible experiences. I mean what the hell happened? Learned my lesson. Will listen to my friends going forward.

So last week, I visited after a long time away. First of all, you can't see the ladies at all under the extremely dark lighting they have inside. The first 4-5 ladies they showed me were hideous so I turned them all away. I finally picked a girl. I can't remember her name. She was OK friendly in the intro room so I picked her. Anyway, we go upstairs and very quickly it became clear that she was trying to delay the session so that our time would ran out. Anyway, just as I was starting to fuck her, the clock ran out and she insisted that I pay up for extra time. Knowing this game, I immediately told her I'm leaving. Anyway. Didn't get to cum and I got dressed quickly and got the fuck out of there.

This week, I was in the area and thought I'd give 37 dundas another try. Thought maybe last week's girl was just a bad exception. After looking at 8 girls, I picked apple, the least bad looking of the 8. She was probably a 6 in the intro room. Once we got upstairs and she got out of her clothes, I felt like she was like a 3-4. Big face. Bad complexion. Belly hanging out. Her tits were her saving grace. Anyway, she was very unenthusiastic and didn't even feign her boredom, told her to just jerk me off and I left quickly afterward. So hope you bros don't come across this working girl. You are forewarned if you do.

This establishment is on its way out clearly. Save your time and money.

I had a similar experience in K-Pressure at the beginning of this year. Bad choices of ladies, when I asked if they had any better quality the mamasan replied they do not have young girls. The lady I picked did not turn me on very much once we were in the room, she made loud fake moans as soon as we started and pretended to come within one minute. In the end I just left.

[QUOTE=Topnotch100;1652552]I had a couple of friends telling me that 37 dundas has gone downhill so I didn't visit for a while. I finally decided to try it out again last week and this week and both times were terrible experiences. I mean what the hell happened? Learned my lesson. Will listen to my friends going forward.

So last week, I visited after a long time away. First of all, you can't see the ladies at all under the extremely dark lighting they have inside. The first 4-5 ladies they showed me were hideous so I turned them all away. I finally picked a girl. I can't remember her name. She was OK friendly in the intro room so I picked her. Anyway, we go upstairs and very quickly it became clear that she was trying to delay the session so that our time would ran out. Anyway, just as I was starting to fuck her, the clock ran out and she insisted that I pay up for extra time. Knowing this game, I immediately told her I'm leaving. Anyway. Didn't get to cum and I got dressed quickly and got the fuck out of there.

This week, I was in the area and thought I'd give 37 dundas another try. Thought maybe last week's girl was just a bad exception. After looking at 8 girls, I picked apple, the least bad looking of the 8. She was probably a 6 in the intro room. Once we got upstairs and she got out of her clothes, I felt like she was like a 3-4. Big face. Bad complexion. Belly hanging out. Her tits were her saving grace. Anyway, she was very unenthusiastic and didn't even feign her boredom, told her to just jerk me off and I left quickly afterward. So hope you bros don't come across this working girl. You are forewarned if you do.

This establishment is on its way out clearly. Save your time and money.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BrownRail;1652336]That is terrific. It sounds like you are on your way to having an approach that works for you. I have not purchased a bar girl drink. On purpose. In years. If I have a real date, of course I pay. It is only polite. But when I meet someone new that I an interested in, sometimes I buy regular drinks or sometimes I let them keep buying their own. It feels much more normal, like we are getting to know each other. If they are really working, interested in my money, they walk away early. Less invested (money and time), less wasted.

Offering dinner is a great way to take it to the next step. For the price of a lady's drink, you get dinner together, can talk, see her in real light, someone to keep you company, and it moves things along to the next step. Taking them to dinner will set you up really well to take them home or for a date later. Hey Hey, corner of Luard and Lochhart is perfect for this.

So on a typical night, my budget will be for my drinks, and a few for the guys or girl friends. I am not a big drinker. It would be unusual for me to spend more than a few hundred dollars. At this spend rate I have no hesitation going out..[/QUOTE]I have not been to HK yet, but expect to visit in January and would like to ask and learn from other's experiences. When in Shanghai, I have been to girl bars, and as others have said, you feel like the ATM with a bunch of pushy girls asking you to buy them drinks. Like others have said, it goes from expensive girl drinks to shots of tequila.

I have offered to just pay the girls $300-500 RMB to hang out if they would stop pushing to buy the drinks. I was very surprised that they refused. Now I realize that in the bars in Shanghai I was at they actually work for the bar, where it sounds like these girls in HK are freelancers.

Has anyone done this in HK? Do you think these SYTs would be welcome for being compensated directly for their time in the bar rather than indirectly through pushing you to buy overpriced drinks, which they don't really want anyway. Of course the bar would not be happy about this.

Any feedback or comments would be appreciated.

Uncle Junior.

[QUOTE=UncleJunior;1652976]I have not been to HK yet, but expect to visit in January and would like to ask and learn from other's experiences. When in Shanghai, I have been to girl bars, and as others have said, you feel like the ATM with a bunch of pushy girls asking you to buy them drinks. Like others have said, it goes from expensive girl drinks to shots of tequila.

I have offered to just pay the girls $300-500 RMB to hang out if they would stop pushing to buy the drinks. I was very surprised that they refused. Now I realize that in the bars in Shanghai I was at they actually work for the bar, where it sounds like these girls in HK are freelancers.

Has anyone done this in HK? Do you think these SYTs would be welcome for being compensated directly for their time in the bar rather than indirectly through pushing you to buy overpriced drinks, which they don't really want anyway. Of course the bar would not be happy about this.

Any feedback or comments would be appreciated.

Uncle Junior.[/QUOTE]I do not think that'll work in HK. I asked a few if they wanted to go to another bar for a "gift" and they said they cannot, the "manager" won't allow it. I think there's a gentlemen's agreement among bar owners in the area (if not an actual contract) whereby girls get drink commission only from one bar, the one they "work" for. Technically they are all freelancers; in practice, they are employees.

I was at Crazy Horse one night and there was one girl I liked, but the place was otherwise terrible and totally empty. I asked the girl if she wanted to go to Escape, she said either I pay the fee to take her home or I stay there (I refused and left).

I later saw the same girl with a friend, they were sitting some 25-30 meters from the entrance of the bar; they asked me straight away: don't go to CH, just take us home.

In hindsight, I should have take them, or one of them, and I feel I should share an advice with yall: if you want to quickly take a girl out from a Wan Chai bar go to the lamest, most empty ones. Girls will be much more willing to be taken home there where the bar-girl commissions are not flowing like in successful bars like HK cafe, Neptune, etc.

How did I not think of that before. Silly me.

Got to be for the next time I'm in HK!

[QUOTE=UncleJunior;1652976]I have not been to HK yet, but expect to visit in January and would like to ask and learn from other's experiences. When in Shanghai, I have been to girl bars, and as others have said, you feel like the ATM with a bunch of pushy girls asking you to buy them drinks. Like others have said, it goes from expensive girl drinks to shots of tequila.

I have offered to just pay the girls $300-500 RMB to hang out if they would stop pushing to buy the drinks. I was very surprised that they refused. Now I realize that in the bars in Shanghai I was at they actually work for the bar, where it sounds like these girls in HK are freelancers.

Has anyone done this in HK? Do you think these SYTs would be welcome for being compensated directly for their time in the bar rather than indirectly through pushing you to buy overpriced drinks, which they don't really want anyway. Of course the bar would not be happy about this.

Any feedback or comments would be appreciated.

Uncle Junior.[/QUOTE]I doubt this will work because when the lady is at the bar she always has a chance to go with a guy. Why accept $300 from a guy to hang around when there is a chance to get 1, 2 or 3 K from a guy for a visit to the hotel.

You'd be better to go to a non worker girl bar.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1653323]I doubt this will work because when the lady is at the bar she always has a chance to go with a guy. Why accept $300 from a guy to hang around when there is a chance to get 1, 2 or 3 K from a guy for a visit to the hotel.

You'd be better to go to a non worker girl bar.[/QUOTE]Thank you Chantik and Mvulane for continuing my education.

Chantik- I guess I should have been more clear on the end game. The $200-$300 fee would be just to compensate her directly for the money I would be dumping on lady drinks. I still would have every intention of negotiating a trip to the hotel if we were enjoying each other company.

Also, does the bar get a bar fine if you leave with the girl or are you just negotiating directly with her and she will keep all the fee? I was under the assumption the ladies are freelancers and they aren't kicking back to the bar or I don't have to pay the bar directly for anything other than my drink tab.

Thanks in advance.

Uncle Junior.

Have been planning this trip for long time. Have read the forum and everything. Some posts two times. I have no problem learning stuff from reading but as you will see I have problem remembering it in the field. I'd like to be Natty Bumpo but don't think I can but will try. I have questions and need advice but from what I;ve seen newbies posting only questions can be unpopular. So rookie report coming up with some questions inside.

Had booked flight carefully although a little more expensive but arriving late afternoon so could check in, go out, have body slide, eat, and sleep ready for day 2. Perfect! Trip started bad with cancellations and delays so arrived very early on the third morning after 2 days without sleep. Took 3 hours from airport to hotel due to tiredness and travel sickness and confusion with trains, name of subway station, names of roads, directions, traffic, tall buildings blocking the view, tall people blocking the view, short people blocking sidewalks, big buses blocking roads, that sort of thing.

Was still up for a body slide as thought it would fix all my body problems in one session. Stiff neck, stiff back, stiff erm, ahem. Have been wanting to body slide for ever. Had read about Dundas 37. Two places in one so originally thinking might do the double. Was stressing what floor to do first in case have to walk past first place with lady from the other place.

After eventually checking in checked forum for directions and found new reports saying Dundas is now Grade the. Heart sank. Had even thought maybe K Pressure as backup but more fresh reports saying crap and middle aged, like me.

I panic easily and hadn't anticpated Dundas problems. Kinda wishing now I had gone to Bangkok instead. I had expected my Sunday afternoon and night planned for FL finding going wrong but not body slide on day 1 which was now day 3 already. As emergency measure decided to try 141 which had been original day 2 plan. But nearly everyone is phone appointment. I hadn't got a phone yet. Decided to leave own phone at home accidentally on purpose for security reasons. Ok so thought I'd check out a walk up online. But looked on website and couldn't find any one walk upthat definitely aroused interest.

I had read that Phoenix Apartments and Fuji Building have many opportunities but according to 141 website there are little. So am confused. Do any experienced hands reading this know the real situation?

Spent so long looking at 141 web that it was now way way past lunch time and was too tired and weak. So tried to sleep for a few hours but the curtains always have a gap. Didn't bring hammer and nails because I thought the airline might not like it so stuck with gappy curtains. Should have kept the sleeping mask.

Somehow despite being super tired, I managed not to sleep. Fail. Maybe I was distraught about long held Plan Body Slide and panicking about Plan be. So after wasting more hours not sleeping and more time not knowing how to fix things decided to go to Wan Chai. I've heard about a Filipino place with good food. Thought that might be a good place to start with Filipinas. Food was good and place full of what I assume to be Filipino families. The people next to me where Chinese maybe Hong Kong I don't know how to tell. I do know that mainland Chinese think of it as one country but people from Hong Kong feel they are Hong Kong not Chinese. I think I'm right. Any ways the guy kept touching my leg with his. I was too nervous to tell him it wasn't his girlfriends. I assume that's what he meant to do. I'm kind of prone to panick. Do any experienced hands reading this know how to break it gently to a guy that that's still your leg not his girlfriends? Not my night. I decided neither he nor his girlfriend were my type, her legs were too hairy, so I tried to pay and leave. I TOLD my credit card company that I was going abroad. But the card was declined. How embarrasing. Lucky I had just enough cash. I was surprised that Filipino food was so expensive. Maybe because it's Hong Kong. Any more expensive and it would be cheaper to commute to the Philippines to eat right?

Food was enjoyable, company so far less so. Walked around and around and around and around trying to decide where to go. I couldn't remember reading anything about the places with curtains. Finally decided I probably couldn't afford them. After 3 laps of Lockhart and Jaffe I finally decided on Hong Kong Cafe. Somehow panicked at the door and walked about a lot more and finally finally decided on New Makati instead. Was trying to enter but got pounced on by pushy shouty woman from curtain club next door. Bottled it and walked away leaving Mrs Mouth shouting after me. Not sure what she shouted. Reading you guys reports on here it all seems to easy but not for me. But we're all beginners to start with right guys?

Did another 2 laps full of Lockhart and Jaffe including a clever figure of 8 movement. That was unplanned just a panick attack crossing the road and turning back to avoid angry beeping taxi driver. Managed to approach New Makati from the other direction and used a large drunk man as a shield to hide from Mrs Pushy. He was also trying to get into New Makati. I don't think security saying no mattered because I don't think he could have climbed all the stairs any ways. I sure wasn't going to carry him over the threshold. I did that once with a girlfriend years ago and bashed her head on the door frame, backed up tried again and this time hit her feet. So some improvement second attempt. Had a similar problem with inner door but this time somehow managed to hit her knees. Never figured out how I did that and never did see her again. And after all the painkillers I gave her. Ah such memories.

Sorry, where was I? Oh yeah, Makati. I couldn't get between Drunken Sailor and the security box so had to risk going around him and between him and Mrs Next Door. Easier said than done. I never knew drunk people could stagger so much side to side and stay standing. Do any clever people reading this know how that is done? On third attempt made it past drunk man and security man gave me stern look. Brief moment of panic but was waved through. I went past quickly, probably out of panic.

Yes! Success! Climbed the stairway to heaven and went in. Was now looking forward to the Natty Bumpo experience where a gaggle of gorgeous girls approach and throw themselves at you.

The place was not busy so no welcoming committee. I had a quick look but didn't see any ladies that I would want to carry over the threshold for one night only, door frames allowing. But I can hardly see anyway so could have been wrong. Walked to the bar scanning left and right. This is mainly to avoid tripping over something but also to scout. I was trying to be subtle. I think it worked because nobody seemed to notice me. Just as I got to the bar the lights went up and the music went down. Didn't remember tripping on any power cables so hoped it wasn't me. But this did make ordering the drink much easier. Definitely no problem ordering a drink with no ice. No need because the place itself is like an ice box. Bar lady apologised for the high visibility situation but I was happy. Could order drink and actually see talent. Unfortunately no talent in sight range but for once getting the drink I ordered as I ordered it was a bonus for me. Normally this is a problem. It surprisingly difficult to get a drink with out ice in the modern world.

Right back to Makati. Lights went down, music went up and I'd just bought the world's most expensive drink. At first I thought I'd heard wrong because I'm a bit deaf. But on the third time of asking she wrote it down. Unfortunately too small to read with what's left of my eye sight but by now she was angry enough to shout over the music so I handed over a million and twenty bucks and retreated to the far end of the room for safety. For anyone doing research I can say that a small chest does not mean lady cannot shout loud.

Made a second lap of the dance floor but legs were hurting from all the walking earlier. So decided to sit down. Sat ina corner away from the music but couldn't see anything except another sad looking solo guy like me opposite. Not the one in the mirror! Him too though. Felt very cold after just a few seconds sitting. There were two girls sitting diag opposite and they stood up. I was hoping the Natty Bumpo experience was about to begin. They put their coats on which I thought was sensible given the weather. Then they left.

I then made my first sensible decision for the night. Went and sat where they had been for the warmth left in the seats. Normally hate that on buses but tonight was already under emergency measures.

Do any clever people reading this know why New makati is like an ice box? Is it to make people dance more or cuddle more or sell more coffee? Maybe they sell zip up wooly tops with their logo. There's a market for them.

I sat and waited for my drink to melt a bit so I could get it up the straw without sounding like an industrial suction pump. There were few girls and only one not cuddling a guy. I can't see so well but I had a feeling she was Latina going by the pronounced shapes. She was wearing clothes that were too small for her size which emphasised her belly. Not a good look. She also had some kind of cape thing. Is anyone else here old enough to remember the old Batman? Like that but in white and wider and shorter. Some time later she did approach me although I actually think she was just coming out of the rest room. But I didn't want to be Robin to her batman so I politely ignored her. Now I feel I was maybe rude but I was a bit panicked at the time. It's a running theme.

Before brushing off batgirl there was a point when two other girls came in. One was wearing shorts made for someone smaller although the bouncing effect when she danced was kinda interesting. I was trying not to look because I felt I was being rude. My female friends encourage me never to look below the neck line. This they say is the right way to go about complimenting a lady. I think secretly ladies must like it when someone tells them they've got great breasts or a beautiful butt. Butt maybe they only like such compliments from another woman. I don't know. Does any one here more knowlegeable know?

Bouncing Bombs girl friend was elegantly dressed and was the only one of interest so far. I didn't want to spend another million dollars on another drink so I thought I'd better go for it now. Strange motivation I suppose but desperite times. As I was thinking about what Mr Bumpo would do, Miss Elegant glided into the middle of the dance floor. She then reappeared shortly by being shoved backwards by Very Tall Mr Very Very Angry. He had her arm twisted up her back and was hustled her all the way to the door. Now it was other people's turn to panic. It's very contagious.

Is anyone here old enough to remember the first original Star Wars? This was like the scene in the cantina though with less strange looking drinkers. Within a few seconds of the fight disappearing through the door everyone went on as if nothing had happened. I've led a sheltered life so maybe this is normal.

As my only possible target had now been thrown out I thought I should leave too. Then quite a few girls arrived and some looked very hot. Natty Bumpo Experience here I come! Then the guys they were with followed them in. Fail. The same thing happened again a few minutes later. I stood around in a few places had to keep walking around every few minutes. Mainly to keep warm but also because taller people kept standing in the way. Tall people reading this please be more considerate. I am tall too just not as tall as you.

At some point the lights came on again and the music stopped. Girls started grabbing their coats but there was no stampede. After a few minutes it went back to noisy darkness and the coats came off. Does anyone know what that was about? Is it some kind of emergency drill to make sure people can dress quickly enough if there's a sudden ice storm?

I did see four girls I liked and three others I nearly liked and two I really really liked. But they were all with someone. Seeing how attractive some of them were I thought they could have done better for themselves but maybe they like hopeless guys. Hope so because that's hope for me yet. Two of them were dancing really sexily. Oh, I mean two of the girls not two of the guys. The guys weren't dancing. Just standing there while the girls danced in between their arms and legs and accidentally brushed or banged into them every few seconds. Such carelessness. I think it was deliberate.

There were now so many more bodies in the place that it had warmed up and I'd thawed out enough to start feeling something. But what I was feeling was frustration and probably jealousy. Sorry guys if that was you. It was surprisingly painful watching a couple of girls I was taken with being taken by someone else. I read somewhere recently that with these types of girls you; re not losing your girlfriend, just missing your turn. But I've been out of the dating game for a long time and found it a bit painful. I'm on holiday not in hospital so I decided to leave.

I was thinking of going home but thought I'd give Hong Kong Cafe another go. The nerves of earlier had gone and I breezed in. I was becoming more Nattyer Bumpier by the moment. I had a welcoming chat with an older gentleman who works there. What a job! That's what I want to do when I retire. Surely it's got to be a job where you actually like going to work right?

I decided to order a cheaper drink so the bank wouldn't ring up and complain again. I also didn't think my credit card any more likely to work now than it had earlier. I'm sure I made it clear NO ICE. But what I got was A LOT OF ICE with some liquid filling the few gaps. I sent it back. Do any clever people reading this know if non alcohol drinks really are that expensive or did they make me pay for the one I sent back as well? Is ice now trading more expensive than crude oil?

Only half a million dollars down this time and with another angry bar server notced up I walked towards the dance floor. I immediately saw super sexy short lady. Yes! Instant joy! And then a guy came up to her and started cuddling her. No! Instant sadness!

I did a quick circle but didn't see anyone of interest, well as best as I can see that is. Finding a standing spot was hard because of where every one else was standing. People please be more considerate. Either stand closer together to make more space or stand further apart to make gapes for others. Last night's lot had it all wrong. You couldn't get through or go around.

I had a few attempts at finding a vantage point and accidentally ended up standing near to super sexy short lady. I kept glancing at her subtlely. Mr Cuddles had done but I didn't know where. He might be cuddly but he's also bigger than me. I waited what I was thought was a safe time. Then I edged closer to Sex On Legs Lady. Nice ass ma'am! As she was dancing away she moved closer to me and then spotted me. I didn't panic. Well not too much. I meant to compliment her on her dancing but mistakenly complimented on her body. Not that I didn't mean it, I just didn't mean to say it. At least not out loud in actual words. I was told by female friends that this is not a good opening move. Not my night then.

Anyway she didn't mind if I bought her and her friend a drink. Keen to make amends I agreed. I realised too late that I'd just done exactly what the recent posts on this thread said not to do. Don't let them order their own drinks, waitresses are also in the enemy camp. Too late now. Anyway the drinks were only $160. I was expecting 10 times that. I couldn't hear sexy lady's name over the music. It could have been Sunny. Then again it could have been Cher for all I could hear. She was half naked with a crop top and tasteful flowers tattooed on her left upper arm. Short skirt with just the right amount of material to fill it properly. Same with the crop top though the belly could do with a little restraining. She's from Sumatra with long hair and pouty lips.

Her friend is definitely called Jenny. She has the kind of expensive hair cut that woman think are stylish and men think are too short. It's swept across. I suppose it is stylish but if there are any ladies reading please please please keep your hair long until you need to give your husband grounds for a divorce. Short hair will do it every time. I don't know much about women but I do know you have a different definition of short hair. For women it's Sinead Oconner but for men it's above the shoulder line.

Jenny is from Java. So that's Sunny Sumatra with perfect ass and Jenny Java with perfect boobs. If only you could get the two into one. As you will see, I tried.

Sunny was very forward about asking to go for fun. She's obviously the boss of the pair. Thinking about it now she's probably very pro fessional. I should have realised the warnings from the forum but panick and sexy ladies and expensive drinks do funny things to my heads. At this stage there was also a girl in a slinky black dress doing some pole dancing. This was another distraction and put me in an unfair disadvantage. In the confusing conversation that followed I somehow managed to let them order two more drinks even though the first were barely touched. I don't mind the making money part so much as the wastefulness. There's people short of water in this world. This time it was the older waiter who currently has my future job so I let him have the change. I figured it wasn't going to make much different to me percentage wise and it might encourage him to retire sooner so I can have his job.

I'm not comfortable with choosing people. Never have been. I guess it comes from always being the last to be picked for sports at school. Actually not picked but the last one left. That always hurt my feelings and figured it would hurt someone elses. Besides how do choose between impressive boobs and impressive butt? So I did the sensible thing and asked if both Indonesian islands would be up for international relations. I had to answer a lot of questions about which hotel, how long I'd been in Hong Kong, where I lived, my job. I realise now it was phishing but I didn't give out any passwords or bank accounts details.

Rookie mistake! If any rookies reading this then learn from my mistake. Don't tell them anything. Do any experienced hands reading this know how to have a conversation and make this kind of deal without actually giving up any information?

I failed the next question too. I was asked how much I wanted to pay. I panicked and asked what the charge was. I don't think I could haggle to save my own life. I got quoted $4 thousand for 2 hours. Now there's a reason only half of my friends wear the 'I'm with Stupid' tee shirt. I'm not that stupid all the time. So I laughed. Actually I think I choked but tried to disguise it as a laugh. I cried Too Much! A few years ago I paid a Filipina $1000 for overnight. That's HK dollar from my only other time visiting which was just a few days. Even I'm not that stoopid. But that wasn't a good night either because I spent nearly all of it cleaning up blood from the hotel sheets. Their instruction book said there was a big charge for damaged sheets. Would be cheaper to buy a new bed. How can one petite little lady bleed so much? It wasn't like the condom had any sharp corners. I only even got one and a bit thrusts in before I struck red oil. I think Filipinas call it mens. It was more like all the performers of the Beijing olympics opening ceremony. What a mess. Could have done with all their help cleaning up.

Sorry, where was I? Oh yeah, choking on $4 thousand dollars. I told Boss Sunny about the Filipina for $1 k for all night. I didn't mention the mess because I don't want to go through that again. Sunny was a little bit angry saying That Filipina but we Indonesia. Do any experienced hands reading this know how to tell the difference? I know not everyone might not look stereotypical of their nationality but I think, could be wrong, that Filipinas and Indonesians are different ethnicity.

Right, so I'd made Sunny a bit angry and she wasn't even working behind the bar. Thinking about it she was justified but thinking about it some more maybe she was pretending to make me feel bad and pay more. I don't know. I said 4 too much and I must have looked like I meant it so she offered 3 for 2 hours. I asked if that was in total because I didn't want the same situation as sending the drink back and paying double. Boss Sunny said yes. Feeling things were finally going slightly my way I asked if that was 2 together not tag team. She said ok. I remember Sir Natty's advice about not negotiating because it creates ill feeling. So I thought I had enough of a bargain and agreed. I was also tired and desperate and probably panciking. Oh and a rookie.

You see I thought 2 hours meant 2 hours in or on bed. I didn't expect the clock to start the moment the price was agreed. Do any experienced hands reading this know if that's when the stopwatch starts? It took forever to get a cab. Many drove past but wouldn't stop. Maybe angry taxi driver from earlier had put out an all cars warning for someone answering my description.

Eventually we got to the hotel. I couldn't exactly remember where it was. I knew it was a tall building near a big road. I did know the name but the taxi driver didn't so he rang someone to ask. They didn't know either. I don't speak Chinese but I could tell by the names that he was asking for help. Jenny knew exactly where it was though. So now I was thinking maybe she has done this before like Sunny. Maybe Jenny is the secret boss.

We did eventually get to the hotel and eventually got in through the door. How was I to know I'd been using the back entrance all day? A door is a door to me. The only attention I ever pay to doors is to asses whether its wide enough to carry someone of a carryable weight, so not too tall, through without bashing both ends of the body.

So inside and into the room and off with the clothes and on to the fun.

Anyone more experienced than me, which is probably all of you, will have already guessed this next part. In the end it was tag team one at a time of course. It is safer that way. But for just once before retirement and working as a waiter in HK Cafe I would like to have proper threesome. Any suggestions? I know is risky but as I get older I'm getting more fed up with my always safe life. I think I'm missing out. Maybe it isn't as good as I think it will be. I think over anticipation spoils the actual event. But I keep reading some of your reports and you do seem to have a lot of fun. Yesterday I even read a blog where a guy got two Filipinas for free and threesome and they even bought him a drink.

Well I hope that's ok for a first report. I've given up my Saturday night in Wan Chai to write it instead. I felt a bit nervous about going back. I'm also walking badly because of the 10 k I did round Wan Chai last night and something else that happened today. But that's another report for another day.

[QUOTE=CharlesDickin;1653437]Have been planning this trip for long time. Have read the forum and everything. But that's another report for another day.[/QUOTE]Well, I hope your other report is a lot shorter than this dribble I have just read, partly out of curiosity.

What a load of rubbish. Do us all a favour and go back home. Are you sure you should be out and about on your own?

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2;1653496]Well, I hope your other report is a lot shorter than this dribble I have just read, partly out of curiosity.

What a load of rubbish. Do us all a favour and go back home. Are you sure you should be out and about on your own?[/QUOTE]To Jackthelad2.

I think Charles just crawl out from his cave if he have so much problem in Hk he cannot survive in other country in Asia, HK is one of the easy country for tourist in Asia most people are friendly and speak English, maybe he should go to China instead don't think he can make it out alive.

Fast eddie 48.

Sorry guys. Another rookie mistake, first report was.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2;1653496]dribble[/QUOTE]And.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2;1653496]load of rubbish[/QUOTE]Agreed! So short version.

After a problematic start made it to Hong Kong cafe and found Indonesian duo. Jenny from Java, busty, short hair. Sunny or similar name, quite busty, great butt, long hair, pouty lips, flower tattoos left shoulder.

Hit me for 2 sets of drinks and quoted me $4000 for 2 hours. I refused and got $3000 second offer. Agreed. On eventually arriving at hotel they got undressed immediately then Sunny asked for money now. Based on forum advice, thank you, I refused and offered taxi money and started getting dressed. Sunny agreed for money later. They were sexy but Sunny maybe too professional for rookie.

Hope that report is short enough. Some short reports have been criticized for lack of detail. Not sure how to get the balance right.

Yes I am just out of my cave. No probably shouldn't be out and about on my own. I know I am not cut out for this type of thing but wanted to try. Reading some reports it all seemed like fun. But I am not a confident person so struggled first time. Not being able to see and hear well makes life more difficult especially in new places. So read the forum as preparation and was grateful for advice. Thought it fair to contribute back but seem to have got that very wrong first post. Very sorry. How does a new poster get started? Is there a template? Looking through the forum I see if you only ask questions you get criticized. I understand that type of post is annoying. If you get the report wrong you get criticized. The criticism of my original post makes sense so I asked for it to be deleted. I hope that's ok. Just trying to break into the circle.

I had two 141 experiences yesterday which were much easier for a rookie. 1 medium, 1 super.

[QUOTE=CharlesDickin;1653437]Have been planning this trip for long time. Have read the forum and everything. Some posts two times. I have no problem learning stuff from reading but as you will see I have problem remembering it in the field. I'd like to be Natty Bumpo but don't think I can but will try. I have questions and need advice but from what I;ve seen newbies posting only questions can be unpopular. So rookie report coming up with some questions inside. {S N I P} [/QUOTE]I appreciate that you are trying to write an entertaining post, so thanks for your first effort.

I suggest that you could learn from Natty Bumpo's posts. He really knows how to write lengthy entertaining posts. Read his recent trip reports from PI.

Additionally, your questions and requests for advice will likely go unnoticed in the midst of a very long post.

Don't get discouraged! We all have to learn!

Ikksman

Does anyone have any experiences related to finding Korean girls in HK?

I will be visiting HK soon and I want to try.

I live in Manila and I see so many cute K girls (and some very attractive older women too) around my condo and in the malls but no matter what I do I cannot manage to separate any of them from their K-Pop friends.

They seem to work in groups.

Cannot find anything on the forum.

[QUOTE=CharlesDickin;1653437]Have been planning this trip for long time.[/QUOTE]A lot of funny stuff, I really liked it. Thanks for the report.

Maybe Dickens is best served by trying agencies or independent escorts.