Anyone seen (or heard) Solida at Artemis lately?
I am going there soon and she is a favorite repeat for me.
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Anyone seen (or heard) Solida at Artemis lately?
I am going there soon and she is a favorite repeat for me.
[QUOTE=RockyV;2058381]In Berlin on business and as my hotel was (strategically) close to one of the S5 bahn stations, on Saturday I've decided to get on the train and get off at Westkreuz stop. After a short walk along the road and over the bridge, I was in front of Artemis at around 8:30 pm.
I had never been to this club before and I really had high expectations. So, I paid the 80 E entry fee (you can pay by card, if you want) and got into the changing rooms. The first thing that strikes you of this club is how poorly kept it is and it feels very old and outdated. Changing rooms were a mess and very wet everywhere. So, not a good start and I was already feeling "home-sick' for my beloved Hessen clubs such as Sharks and Oase (mainly Sharks!
The bar area and the only "hunting ground" that day is very dark and small considering the huge building the club is in. It is also very smoky and extremely hot because of the very low ceilings and lack of windows. The restaurant area has very bright lights like in an office cafeteria and the food is horrible. Fortunately I had had something to eat before going in.
The outside area (so NOT a garden!) is just a big concrete terrace with a pool in it. Wellness facilities are below standards compared to other big clubs.
OK, enough talking about the club.
Girls: The club was half empty (or half full, depending on your philosophical bent) on Saturday night and LU wasn't that great to be honest. Because the bar area is very dark and smoky you really have to go up close to a girl to see her properly. I could only spot two 8/9's and the rest in my opinion were 5's or 6's, which I wouldn't have sessioned with for free!
Anyway, I was lucky enough to have sessions with the two stunners in the club that night: Nadia. De and Ange. Col..[/QUOTE]CBJ now at Artemis?
Nadja used to suck my dick with no condom and now only CBJ?
If so, bye bye Artemis, you were good.
So now I can cross Artemis off my list. No way would pay 80 euro entry plus 60 per session. That would be 140 for a CBJ. Terrible law.
[QUOTE=RockyV;2058381]In Berlin on business and as my hotel was (strategically) close to one of the S5 bahn stations, on Saturday I've decided to get on the train and get off at Westkreuz stop. After a short walk along the road and over the bridge, I was in front of Artemis at around 8:30 pm.
I had never been to this club before and I really had high expectations. So, I paid the 80 E entry fee (you can pay by card, if you want) and got into the changing rooms. The first thing that strikes you of this club is how poorly kept it is and it feels very old and outdated. Changing rooms were a mess and very wet everywhere. So, not a good start and I was already feeling "home-sick' for my beloved Hessen clubs such as Sharks and Oase (mainly Sharks!
The bar area and the only "hunting ground" that day is very dark and small considering the huge building the club is in. It is also very smoky and extremely hot because of the very low ceilings and lack of windows. The restaurant area has very bright lights like in an office cafeteria and the food is horrible. Fortunately I had had something to eat before going in.
The outside area (so NOT a garden!) is just a big concrete terrace with a pool in it. Wellness facilities are below standards compared to other big clubs.
OK, enough talking about the club.
Girls: The club was half empty (or half full, depending on your philosophical bent) on Saturday night and LU wasn't that great to be honest. Because the bar area is very dark and smoky you really have to go up close to a girl to see her properly. I could only spot two 8/9's and the rest in my opinion were 5's or 6's, which I wouldn't have sessioned with for free!.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrHo;2058608]CBJ now at Artemis?
Nadja used to suck my dick with no condom and now only CBJ?
If so, bye bye Artemis, you were good.[/QUOTE]She only let me know that anal was on the 'menu', but it's not my thing. I didn't ask if BBBJ was possible, but I didn't have the feeling it was on offer.
Rock.
[QUOTE=DrPoon;2058645]So now I can cross Artemis off my list. No way would pay 80 euro entry plus 60 per session. That would be 140 for a CBJ. Terrible law.[/QUOTE]It seems so and 80 E for that club is way too overpriced!
[QUOTE=BlueSwede;2058576]Anyone seen (or heard) Solida at Artemis lately?[/QUOTE]Seen (and heard) her some weeks ago. AFAIR. She's famous for her blowjob, but: getting a CBJ from her isn't the same as it was before 1st of July, isn't it?
Artemis Syndrome:
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[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2058817]Seen (and heard) her some weeks ago. AFAIR. She's famous for her blowjob, but: getting a CBJ from her isn't the same as it was before 1st of July, isn't it?[/QUOTE]Not the same, but still very good I think. I still remember last time, she blowed me slowly and very nice for like 20 minutes. I really enjoyed it. After that, she asked, "I finish you now, ok?
After me nodding, if took less than one minute for her to finish me and that "just happened" without any obvious signs of rushing it. Wonderful!
Hopefully this CBJ law will lead to lower prices as the demand lowers. That is one thing Germany needs to learn. Supply and demand. They seem to hold prices at whatever they arbitrarily set regardless. People need to stop paying outrageous rates for CBJ plus travel expenses on top of that. It is getting to the point where it is better to just spend more time and effort seeking the BBBJ in my homeland. It used to be so easy and affordable in Germany prior to July 1.
[QUOTE=BlueSwede;2058947]Not the same, but still very good I think. I still remember last time, she blowed me slowly and very nice for like 20 minutes. I really enjoyed it. After that, she asked, "I finish you now, ok?
After me nodding, if took less than one minute for her to finish me and that "just happened" without any obvious signs of rushing it. Wonderful![/QUOTE]
I don't think prices will drop.
Artemis is still the only FKK in Berlin.
Tourists keep coming.
[QUOTE=Guy93;2059207]I don't think prices will drop.
Artemis is still the only FKK in Berlin.
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Tourists keep coming.[/QUOTE]I am bewildered by all the angst. The difference between BBBJ and a CBJ with a Sagami 0. 1 is very little unless you are into the visuals and the knowledge of having the cover is a turn off. Secondly, for guys who are crazy about BBBJ if they say they want CIM they'll can have it anyway. But have to pay the extra. If people are so desperate for BBBJ (which is fine- to each their own) does CIM not appeal?
I had one night only last weekend at Artemis (post 1st July) and (unusually for me) spent it with one girl only. Who for now obvious reasons I won't name. And once she was made aware that I wanted at least an hour (turned into 2. 5) didn't hesitate on BBBJ and didn't mention CBJ and I didn't have CIM (not for me) and there was no attempt at upsell.
I think girls will think that taking some risk of a punter being a policeman will mean they won't do BBBJ for 30 min sessions. I get it. They didn't change the law. They are still taking risks. They are balancing it. Some will be opportunistic but most will still want the business and will therefore do BBBJ certainly for 1 hour sessions+.
I agree with Guy 93. Tourists will forever go to Artemis. Only FKK in Berlin (which is really bad IMHO as provides no incentive for Artemis to improve. But then Oase hasn't improved for years despite the competition!
Berlin is hands down a better city to visit than boring Frankfurt. The age and size of girls on my recent visit to Sharks was anything to go by Artemis and other clubs have nothing to fear from the Hessen clubs. (I'm told Thursday is bad but honestly the LU was really very poor). Competition would improve things but the truth is this: you go to Artemis and pay 80 entry. They can get away with that price due to lack of competition but then isn't the entry at Palace 75? And Paradise? So it's not wildly more. When you get in the club you can have sex with a lot of very pretty young ladies for 50 euros. You would not have wanted FS without a condom (or you're mad) so you're used to paying 50 for 30 minutes of suck and fuck. You still get to see the sights of 100+ naked or near naked women, you get to have sex with pretty much who you want. Anyone who thinks this is going to stop tourists coming, or force prices down is dreaming. The prices are cheap. You don't get 100 euro sex for an hour in many places in Europe and definitely not in the USA or Dubai. Yes in Thailand (much less) but unless you like Asian girls your options are limited.
Let's chill out and enjoy. The truth is that FKKs (Artemis and most of them) still offer guys a fantastic experience, for not a lot of money, and as a non-German tourist, I'm just really glad there is a country that has these places as perfectly legal (and safe) options.
[QUOTE=DrPoon;2059047]plus travel expenses on top of that.
It used to be so easy and affordable in Germany prior to July 1.[/QUOTE]Why should a brothel in Germany care about your travel expenses?
Prices didn't change since July, so what are you talking about?
HB.
[QUOTE=DrPoon;2058645]So now I can cross Artemis off my list. No way would pay 80 euro entry plus 60 per session. That would be 140 for a CBJ. Terrible law.[/QUOTE]Did you note that he didn't ask for BBBJ?
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I think girls will think that taking some risk of a punter being a policeman will mean they won't do BBBJ for 30 min sessions. I get it. They didn't change the law. They are still taking risks. They are balancing it. Some will be opportunistic but most will still want the business and will therefore do BBBJ certainly for 1 hour sessions+.
[/QUOTE]There is no legal risk for the girl as the girl cannot be prosecuted under the law for violation of the condom duty. Rather, only the customer may be prosecuted for this aspect of the law.
[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2059249]There is no legal risk for the girl as the girl cannot be prosecuted under the law for violation of the condom duty. Rather, only the customer may be prosecuted for this aspect of the law.[/QUOTE]What about facilitation or conspiracy to commit BBBJ? Couldn't the girl face liability for that legal theory?