Bogota Reports

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2570807]I met a woman off seeking, and she was a 10 and a 10 in bed to boot.[/QUOTE]I'm happy to hear you found someone special. What does a 10 look like to you (feel free to post a picture with her face blurred out or a celebrity that she resembles)?

As this is subjective, I consider Penelope Cruz, Salma Hayek, Jessica Alba (in their primes) to be 9's.

I'd say maybe Adrianna Lima, and a couple other Brazilian Victoria's Secret models (in their primes) to be 10's.

If she is a 10 in your eyes, at the end of the day, that's all that matters.

I'm just curious to know what kind of score she is.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2570807]S
I would have posted the same thing as you did a year ago. To recap, you are into the three phases of relationships: working girls, working girls where there is affection (sugar baby like), and civilians.

I had it out with Mr. E thinking he did not get it. I met a woman off seeking, and she was a 10 and a 10 in bed to boot. We did not talk all that much but when we were done, I slipped 300 k in her purse. Mr. E called me out on that, pretty much said I was a dumb ass for doing so. I thought about it and asked myself why, and I really did not like the answer. At first, it was habit, second it was to be polite, and the third, and the one I really hated, was that I felt I was not worthy of this woman. That is how badly my ego had bruised by women in the American sex prison.

It took me 4 weeks to see this woman again. In fact, I kind of went to Colombia to see her again. I fucked the shit out of her again and this time paid her nothing. I planned a trip with her and went to Mexico with her. On our last day in Mexico, she was in tears thinking she would not see me again, and we did see each other again in fact have several times.[/QUOTE]I think I might already have congratulated you, or I do it now. You go be with her. I think I have already said that this might last 2, 4, 7 years but it's worth it. I think also, that now you are out of scope for this site, at least for the time being.

I have been absent from here too for the duration of relationships. And then came back when it got bad. I had 7 years of a 10, and now she annoys me to no end, because she is just so unable to understand me and constantly offended by me, makes shit up, and I am done being her bad guy. Fuck it. No 10 is worth that. It's an experience. So now I am back, but I never was a good monger. I have, in fact, described myself as an "LTR addict" and I'm going to work on that this year.

You say a girl asking money to be with us is insulting. I was going to say good for you that your #10 didn't find it insulting that you slipped the 300 kCOP into her purse. But you are certainly right that mongering P4P has something insulting and demeaning for us men. Almost always. Especially these starfish experiences are horrible in my book. Now, there is where the difference comes in. A girl is in the business, and it is clear she is, and the 400 kCOP per night is actually the semi-pro rate as I have now found out. The full pros sometimes ask for a lot more 800 kCOP or so. Although the full pros do not provide better service, or so I doubt. The semis are like open to get emotional by themselves, if they like you somewhat they become sweet. And that's what I like. I once had one of those from the agency in Rio. It was nice, she looked at me right off the bat and decided she liked me. I also had one who started right out when first sitting on my lap saying she didn't like me. That was of course shit going forward.

I am trying to train myself to depend less on that. To totally do a different attitude when they don't like me and don't get sweet. To just give a fuck in that case and pull through anyway and enjoy that aspect of it.

Anyway, enjoy your girlfriend and consider keeping her and don't fuck around unnecessarily. Just keep an eye on whether she actually sees you as you. Good luck.

[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2571178]I also had one who started right out when first sitting on my lap saying she didn't like me. That was of course shit going forward.[/QUOTE]I was not there. But she was sitting on your lap. So I don't think a hooker would sit on a customer's lap and be serious telling them that they did not like them.

You know how many non-pro chicks have said they did not like me? My answer is you are not supposed to like me. But then they can't get enough of me. Chicks say that I am arrogant or act arrogant and for some reason that attracts them. I am not, but I just talk big shit to them when every other guy they know is busy kissing their ass, buying candy while I am buying condoms.

Chick in Bogota keeps telling me every day that she does not want to see or talk to me ever again. I say okay. The next day she is hitting me up asking how my day was. I already told the broad she was a nutcase, but she can't help herself. So next week I will be right back in her mouth and pussy.

[QUOTE=Matthew44;2570191]Also, any suggestions for a good place to take a date for dinner? My general plan was to meet with girls from Seeking (SA), and I was looking for places within walking distance from my rental. I am staying in an AirBnB right between Parque 93 and Zona T, so I am sure that there are a ton of great places. I found a listing for OSK Peru, which looks great, but struck out when trying to find a traditional steakhouse. Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]First off, read Routard's guide if you have not already: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3865-Bogota-FAQ&p=2241562[/URL]#post2241562.

It is ironic Matthew that Latinlover mentioned Andres. I was thinking that literally was the only above average meal I had in Bogota. It is really funny because Bogota has so many more better looking women than Mexico City or Lima, and those two cities blow Bogota out of the water food wise. I am like kind of laughing that maybe Bogota not being a culinary mecca is a good thing because it keeps the women from being fat which is much more of a problem in those other two cities. LOL.

One of the reasons maybe I feel that way about the food though is because I usually stay at the Bogota Marriott near the airport and the food is so fucking good there other restaurants are a disappointment. The breakfast is to die for, and the steak restaurant there is great: [URL]https://www.theplacetobecolombia.com/bogota-gastronomia/factory-steak-lobster-bogota/[/URL].

I get why you are staying in the Parque 93 area. I stayed at Parque 97 suites the second time I was in Bogota, but I should probably do a [URL]seeking.com[/URL] guide for you.

First off, Matthew, you do not have to wine and dine the women in Colombia. There is no one date rule like in the USA where you do meet and greet and then the second date you have sex. You meet the women and fuck them that day. They will be DTF or not.

Do not even do dinner. Maybe for a second date, it is okay. Coffee is fine or I would just meet the women at the hotel diner. Parque 97 was a fine place to meet women, dine and fuck, but the room itself got cold at night. I do not think they even had heat.

Thing about where you staying is that it has the reputation of being the nicer area, but the traffic is kind of a pain and you are far from the airport.

I have done most if not all the tourist stuff in Bogota, and you can probably do it in a day or two days max. There really is not a can't miss thing in Bogota outside of the women so you can just travel to the touristy stuff if you want.

If you want to do the high end clubs and marriage parlors, you are in the right place. For seeking chicks, I am not so sure. Thing is that you are kind of far from Santa Fe and honestly you can fuck just as hot and as good in the seedy joints there as you can anywhere else, and Santa Fe is active even in the afternoon. My favorite gal there works 12 to 5 PM. Unlike the Zona T region, Santa Fe is a dump but the women look as good and perform just as well as the higher end places. I would use SF as a backup if a seeking date does not pan out.

First time I went to Bogota I was at Hotel Ibis, and the rooms are Motel 6 like which is fine for bringing back the SF working girls, but the women I met from seeking were not all down to fuck when I was there. The women have their doubts about you then.

My favorite hotel in Bogota is the Bogota Marriott near the airport. Thing is you look up the price and it is $162 a night, and you are probably at $50 or so a night at your airbnb. That is $100 a day you could spend on women.

But if you go to [URL]Marriott.com[/URL] and you click on the deals and packages portion and pay in advance, the rate goes to around $100. But what you have is a fantastic breakfast, no steep transportation costs to the airport, a great gym, and a fabulous indoor pool with a hot tub. The TV allows you to hook to a Netflix account where you can use Spanish subtitles and watch TV together and the climate control is great. Also you are 15,20 minutes from Santa Fe, and there is a Juan Valdez within walking distance if you want to meet your prospect there. I would typically meet women at the hotel and walk to JV.

Thing is no one mentioned price when I was at the Marriott. They knew because I stayed there money was not going to be an issue for me, and it is kind of intimidating for Colombian women, a lot of whom live in unflattering quarters. So unlike the Ibis where the women's message was like "I need to get paid in advance if you are staying at a hotel like this" or even Parque 97 where the women were more like "I guess if you can afford to stay here, you are okay", the message at Bogota Marriott was, "Okay, I am going to be really lucky to fuck this guy. ".

I am sure there are other hotels that can make that statement too, but I do not know any there that are $100 a night. I registered for 2 people and had no problem brining in women. The hotels would check ID but that was it. The Marriott is not a place to bring back a Santa Fe working girl, but it is great for a seeking girl, and I really recommend you stay there for your first trip. The added expense is well worth it.

With the breakfast, gym, pool, hot tub, and Netflix on the TV, I had no problem having a great time with my women all while keeping them well fed and entertained, and I really recommend there if you are hunting women from seeking.

I've got a weeks vacation coming up and decided to go back to Bogota. I was considering Cartegena but between the girls being fewer, more expensive and the relentless touts bothering you I decided against it. It was a tough decision because I would have liked to have been near an ocean this time.

I'd like the boards thoughts on a few things.

1. I really enjoyed Mezzanine and will go again. What other similiar places are nearby that are open? I prefer to stay in Chapinero area as I liked it. Anyone recommend a hotel in this area?

2. Santa Fe just doesn't do it for me. The knocks after five minutes are just too annoying. However I love the seediness of it. Any alternatives to Santa Fe?

3. Colombian Cupid and Seeking. Is it worth it if I want to meet non pros? I've been very interested in a Black Colombia girl to sample.

4. What else is their to do? Last time I was there I went to Mezzanine three times in a day. But there appears nothing else to do in Bogota. I did the tourist sites the first time but there is no ocean or cool mountains or anything. Would you suggest flying to Cartegena for a day or two?

Bottom line is I am looking to have an even better experience this time. And I will not be using my credit card. I'm not having my info stolen again.

Showdown.

[QUOTE=Jandara69;2570941]If price is not an issue I would recommend la Estancia Chica, a 5 min walk from Parque 93. My favorite steakhouse in Bogota by far, it's a traditional Argentinian steakhouse that serves imported US and Argentinian beef. The churrasco, mollejas and ojo de bife are a clear step above the regular Colombian beef served at, Andres Carne de Res, Carne e Vino, Hermes Carne de Res etc.[/QUOTE]I've been there a half dozen times or so, never realized that was the name. It's right around the corner from the hotel I've been staying in for 10 years. The steak is good and I would go there again just for the steak. A great place for me and my buddy to go for a great steak and a scotch mist, jaja However, it's like old school. Stuff shirt executive kinda steak house, The girls would prefer the vibe in Andres. The Lomo is good but the party scene and the dancing and the eclectic style is a night out to take a chick in Bogota, Again Chia is the place to be but DC is close and a lot of fun.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2570437]Well this is timely. Just flew into BOG Wednesday night. Happened to glance at the currency exchange rates. One place was giving 3620 and the other had 3630 per dollar. I believe the actual rate at the time was 3670. Usually the airport exchange rates suck, but that's not bad at all, especially if you're already at the airport and don't want to wait for the ATM.[/QUOTE]Tonight's rate at that currency exchange was 3620. I used my Schwab card in the Colpatria machine to get 900,000 4 times. Each time it took $239.76 from my account for a rate of 3753.75. There was not a wait at the ATM. I was the only one using it, while there were lines at the currency exchanges.

Just read that Colombia has just had the 100,000 deaths from covid and worse yet that each day about 11,000 new cases, not good and Bogota is the epicenter.

Please get vac before you come to Colombia, please.

The high rate of new cases and massive daily deaths are the result of the protests in the past 8 weeks, you don't need to be Sherlock Homes to understand that this was going to happen.

Stay safe.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=Showdown;2571339]I've got a weeks vacation coming up and decided to go back to Bogota. I was considering Cartegena but between the girls being fewer, more expensive and the relentless touts bothering you I decided against it. It was a tough decision because I would have liked to have been near an ocean this time.

I'd like the boards thoughts on a few things.

1. I really enjoyed Mezzanine and will go again. What other similiar places are nearby that are open? I prefer to stay in Chapinero area as I liked it. Anyone recommend a hotel in this area?

2. Santa Fe just doesn't do it for me. The knocks after five minutes are just too annoying. However I love the seediness of it. Any alternatives to Santa Fe?

3. Colombian Cupid and Seeking. Is it worth it if I want to meet non pros? I've been very interested in a Black Colombia girl to sample.

4. What else is their to do? Last time I was there I went to Mezzanine three times in a day. But there appears nothing else to do in Bogota. I did the tourist sites the first time but there is no ocean or cool mountains or anything. Would you suggest flying to Cartegena for a day or two?[/QUOTE]Not sure if they still have it, but there used to be Gringo night Tuesday nights in Bogota. I think the actual club location where it's held changes so you'll have to look it up. It's basically just a normal dance club but had some of the hottest women I've ever seen. The girls that show up are not working girls, but it's still a fun time.

There are no alternatives to Santa Fe area. There is a red light district called Primera de Mayo or something like that Southwest of Santa Fe area, but mostly ugly girls there. And if they realize your a foreigner, the touts will swarm you. There really aren't any middle priced clubs in Bogota like Face Dos in Medellin. Only the cheap Santa Fe girls and the expensive clubs in the North. Pussy House in Chapinero used to be pretty good, but sounds like it's been turned into a clip joint and not worth visiting.

If you haven't checked out Lidos in the North, I would check it out just for fun. The girls there are stunning but expensive. There is a 200 K COP "bar fine" to take them out and they'll probably charge 500 K or more per night, varies based on the girl. I've only pulled one girl there and she charged 400 K COP for 2 hours. There is also Flirt Hotel. You don't actually have to stay there to session with the girls, but you do need to call them ahead of time and make an appointment to visit. It is run like a super high end casa, where the girls line up and you choose one. Girls varied from 8 to 9.5 on hotness scale. 600 K for 30 min, or 900 K for 1 hour. Rooms you session in are like a 5 star hotel. These are good places to check out if you have a big budget to work with.

If you're bored of Bogota, wouldn't hurt to visit Cartegena for a couple days as flights within Colombia are cheap and you can book with expedia. Beaches in Cartegena are crap except for Playa Blanca. There are tours that take you there for a day trip by bus. Girls can be found at the clock tower area and nearby clubs. They are a lot more expensive than Santa Fe girls.

I've never tried seeking arrangement but I'm also curious if it's worth the time investment. Seems like a good way to get access to the college girls. I'm also curious if it's worth trying in the US or whether it's just too expensive.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2571203]First off, read Routard's guide if you have not already: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3865-Bogota-FAQ&p=2241562[/URL]#post2241562.

It is ironic Matthew that Latinlover mentioned Andres. I was thinking that literally was the only above average meal I had in Bogota. It is really funny because Bogota has so many more better looking women than Mexico City or Lima, and those two cities blow Bogota out of the water food wise. I am like kind of laughing that maybe Bogota not being a culinary mecca is a good thing because it keeps the women from being fat which is much more of a problem in those other two cities. LOL.[/QUOTE]Was just in Mexico City and have to agree with what you said. High end restaurant scene was amazing and although I didn't try any street food, it also looked great. I will say that Bogota restaurants are about half the price of Mexico City restaurants so that's a big advantage. For high end sushi places like Osaka in Bogota, the prices are the same anywhere you go. There is a place called Brutos in Chaperino that has excellent seafood and is a great place to take a girl for dinner.

I was not impressed with the girls in Mexico City. Even in the high end malls I rarely saw any hot girls. There were hot girls in the strip clubs but a lot of those were likely Colombians and Venezuelans. Contrast that to Bogota where there are hot girls everywhere you go, especially in the rich areas.

As far as hotels, I agree Ibis is a nice clean hotel on a budget and close to Santa Fe. The rooms are tiny though so I wouldn't feel comfortable bringing a girl there for all night, maybe for a short session. Always book hotels for two because it only costs a couple dollars extra and then you won't have issues with bringing girls back. I've heard mention of hotel San Francisco, but even though it's right by Santa Fe, I wouldn't recommend it as it's too low end. You have to use old school metal keys and the safes are the old kind that are difficult to operate. I wouldn't even consider bringing a girl there.

A little further away from Santa Fe area is Hotel Bicentanario. This is where I usually stay. It's reasonably priced with nice modern large rooms. The only issue I have with this place is that any time you enter the place a security guard has to open the door for you. I often get back late at night after spending the day in Santa Fe so I end up having to wake up the usually sleeping security guard to let me in, it's annoying for both parties.

Haven't stayed at the Marriot yet but may check it out on the next trip. If I'm staying in the North, I'll usually stay at Dann Carlton hotel and spa. This place is pretty high end but worth the price. It has a swimming pool with hot tub and sauna and The breakfast is amazing. They require a swimming cap in order to use the pool so bring one from home if you plan to stay at this hotel. It's pretty easy to bring girls here as you can avoid the front desk, although they request that you check in any guests. If you plan on calling girls from escort sites, this is a pretty good hotel to stay at.

Keep in mind that traffic in Bogota is bad from 9 AM to 7 PM, it can take an hour to cross the city by taxi or uber. The ubers are ridiculously cheap, but it can be a lot of wasted time for you or any girl coming to you if she has to cross the city in the day time. At night time, it's very fast to get anywhere.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2571548]Just read that Colombia has just had the 100,000 deaths from covid and worse yet that each day about 11,000 new cases, not good and Bogota is the epicenter.

Please get vac before you come to Colombia, please.

The high rate of new cases and massive daily deaths are the result of the protests in the past 8 weeks, you don't need to be Sherlock Homes to understand that this was going to happen.

Stay safe.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]I hope you found a way to get vaccinated friend. I am & I will be in Bogota Friday. In Medellin July 5. The economic suffering / demonstrations I hope are getting better. People need to do what they can to help each other and bear with this scourge.

[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2571641]I hope you found a way to get vaccinated friend. I am & I will be in Bogota Friday. In Medellin July 5. The economic suffering / demonstrations I hope are getting better. People need to do what they can to help each other and bear with this scourge.[/QUOTE]Hello DonCarlos, yes I had my first shot over a month ago and the second booster schedule for one month as I got the AstraZeneca (12 weeks apart) here in Medellin.

So I am buying my time and hanging around my home city of Medellin until the booster.

Be safe and enjoy your visit and perhaps we will meet again in Medellin (myself and others have been trying to keep the chicas happy since your last visit in 20202 hehehehe).

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=Showdown;2571339]I've got a weeks vacation coming up and decided to go back to Bogota. I was considering Cartegena but between the girls being fewer, more expensive and the relentless touts bothering you I decided against it. It was a tough decision because I would have liked to have been near an ocean this time.

I'd like the boards thoughts on a few things.

1. I really enjoyed Mezzanine and will go again. What other similiar places are nearby that are open? I prefer to stay in Chapinero area as I liked it. Anyone recommend a hotel in this area?

2. Santa Fe just doesn't do it for me. The knocks after five minutes are just too annoying. However I love the seediness of it. Any alternatives to Santa Fe?

3. Colombian Cupid and Seeking. Is it worth it if I want to meet non pros? I've been very interested in a Black Colombia girl to sample.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, the pandemic has shut down some lots of things to do. But some of my favorites are still around. If you have a favorite girl to hang out with, go to the cinema in Unicentro Bogota, they have a state of art movies there with 4 D. Also I always try and do some horseback riding with my girl. It's just up the mountain from calle 92 why carrera 7. There are 3 or 4 stables all on the road up the mountain. The trail will take you up the mountain top with an amazing view of Bogota down below. If your really adventurous, take the all day ride to Monserrate on horseback. On the way back down hit the restaurant called Trimonti the foods decent but the view as you dine on the mountain side is great, Ask for a table near the window.

SA is expensive and you need to do some prospecting to separate the scams and prepagos from the real SB. Cons: Bogota has gotten dangerous as have all the cities in Colombia, Cali is a disaster, Ctg. Is hot, the beach is slightly better than mud and expensive. Medellin is more dangerous than ever. So my advice is Bogota, find a girl or 2 you like sending time with, stay more to the north.

If your flying solo, I enjoy the casinos. I hit the jackpot in Broadway Casino for 2. 5 million, a nice score for the Colombian casinos.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2570807].... I met a woman off seeking, and she was a 10 and a 10 in bed to boot....[/QUOTE]That's marriage material.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2571679]Unfortunately, the pandemic has shut down some lots of things to do. But some of my favorites are still around. If you have a favorite girl to hang out with, go to the cinema in Unicentro Bogota, they have a state of art movies there with 4 D. Also I always try and do some horseback riding with my girl. It's just up the mountain from calle 92 why carrera 7. There are 3 or 4 stables all on the road up the mountain. The trail will take you up the mountain top with an amazing view of Bogota down below. If your really adventurous, take the all day ride to Monserrate on horseback. On the way back down hit the restaurant called Trimonti the foods decent but the view as you dine on the mountain side is great, Ask for a table near the window.

SA is expensive and you need to do some prospecting to separate the scams and prepagos from the real SB. Cons: Bogota has gotten dangerous as have all the cities in Colombia, Cali is a disaster, Ctg. Is hot, the beach is slightly better than mud and expensive. Medellin is more dangerous than ever. So my advice is Bogota, find a girl or 2 you like sending time with, stay more to the north.

If your flying solo, I enjoy the casinos. I hit the jackpot in Broadway Casino for 2. 5 million, a nice score for the Colombian casinos.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. It is appreciated.

With all that you said would you even recommend Bogota at this time? How is it measured that Bogota is more dangerous that it was when I came in Nov of last year?

Too bad about Cartegena. It would be nice if the beach was better and the mongering also.

So if not Bogota where? I have had too many bad experiences in the DR to return there.

Showdown.