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[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot;1243333]I have read quite a few mentions of 'shot trays' on these pages. How common is this in the bars?[/QUOTE]About a year ago we received 2 shot trays out of about 10 times. You don't need to worry about it. Your behaviour doesn't change (no speaking in code) and it doesn't affect the price. A tray just shows up and you can have some shots or not. It is CYA (cover your ass) for the bar and doesn't affect us directly.
[QUOTE=JPF;1243638]About a year ago we received 2 shot trays out of about 10 times. You don't need to worry about it. Your behaviour doesn't change (no speaking in code) and it doesn't affect the price. A tray just shows up and you can have some shots or not. It is CYA (cover your ass) for the bar and doesn't affect us directly.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice and for those who have answered my questions in recent weeks. I hope to spend 5 or 6 days in Angeles and will visit the bars on Fields Avenue again and also try the Perimeter bars in the afternoon, especially Pony Tails as various people have suggested. I wil post a report when I return.
Hi mates.
After a long time, maybe 4 years I came back to town here is my impression.
Nice! New developments hotels, restaurants but in general most the same even the traditional "koko","margarita" "Raphsodi" "Camelot" but prices. Gone up much!
Was first night at the "camelot" was boring changed to brown sugar was much more on happy mood girls laugh and have fun, someone bought them animal party 1900 Pesos.
Had good service from one of the waitress At the bar one of the girls 21 whyear old showed interest in me so I decided to barfine her the damage was 1900 P I asked her will you stay till 10am? She agreed so no hassle all was great 3 sessions left at 11. 30 am.
Second night went early at the Las vegas its more expensive than other bars bat because me 2000 pesos for 18 year old girl fresh in AC. The mamasan had a lady drink with me so I could get the best INFO about the girl again agreed for 10am she was really fresh and sexy nothing special. 9.30am sent her home. Till relax area, most of the mongers here are 60+ I guess that they live here. Some 40+ came for fun. Rarely you can find 20-30 year old mongers.
Have fun.
Essi.
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Quite some time ago, I learned some of the rules of bargaining when buying goods from stalls.
I also found that when I managed to bargain the seller down to the real price for an item, I was respected, and sometimes congratulated for having done so.
For foreigners who overpaid what the seller first asked for, there was nothing but distain and loss of respect.
I don't know if the same principles apply with P4P girls, particularly as many of them have no experience in the real market, or with bargaining.
But I do believe that the guy who grossly overpays loses the respect of the girl who is servicing him.
G
[QUOTE=Essi; 1246765]Hi mates.
Was first night at the "camelot" was boring changed to brown sugar was much more on happy mood girls laugh and have fun, someone bought them animal party 1900 Pesos.
S[/QUOTE]McDon, Sir Lancelot and all my esteemed monger mentors!
I am closing in on arrival in AC. I have read everything all the experts have provided and had one or two last minute bits of info I seek!
Frist off, I will need to stock up on Viagra, Kamgara or other similar support resources but I keep hearing about fakes (mostly Manila Posts). DOes anyone have recommendations on where to buy the best deals on these meds. I also would value any comments on the Indian brands or no names that you have tried successfully and where you'd recommend buying them as well.
Second, I am still vague on the bottle purchases as EWR coverage. Does anyone ever drink these bottles while sitting at the bar and then choose the girl they want to take out. If you chose a girl and bought the bottle, would she event drink it in the bar?
I do plan on paying a for LD for some mamasans so they can guide me to a girl who can supply my desires. It seems like a good investment since I do have a well scripted fun time.
Ogman
[QUOTE=Ogman; 1247087]McDon, Sir Lancelot and all my esteemed monger mentors!
I am closing in on arrival in AC. I have read everything all the experts have provided and had one or two last minute bits of info I seek!
Frist off, I will need to stock up on Viagra, Kamgara or other similar support resources but I keep hearing about fakes (mostly Manila Posts). DOes anyone have recommendations on where to buy the best deals on these meds. I also would value any comments on the Indian brands or no names that you have tried successfully and where you'd recommend buying them as well.
Second, I am still vague on the bottle purchases as EWR coverage. Does anyone ever drink these bottles while sitting at the bar and then choose the girl they want to take out. If you chose a girl and bought the bottle, would she event drink it in the bar?
I do plan on paying a for LD for some mamasans so they can guide me to a girl who can supply my desires. It seems like a good investment since I do have a well scripted fun time.
Ogman[/QUOTE]Hi,
You can find original Viagra or Cialis at the big pharmacies, Itsalways good to buy mamasan a lady drink it will help.
On the street they will offer you every 20 meters Viagra or other king of. Just egnore it.
Now in many bar when you barfine a girl they tell you no barfine just buy this bottle. Cheap drink stuff kind of coconut vodka its called animal party.
Last night was in la bamba sow there a gorgeous girl 24 whyear old she is a bar tender but she want long serious relation just took her number will see what will happen.
Had dinner in Salvatore on fields av. Not bad but was empty at 7 pm.
At 10 pm heading to blue Nile for my sweet historical memories tons of girls 7 girls for one customer amazing choose one waitress cost 1800 P.
Lady drink is expensive there 250 P.
Have fun.
Essi
[QUOTE=Gangles; 1246915]Quite some time ago, I learned some of the rules of bargaining when buying goods from stalls.
I also found that when I managed to bargain the seller down to the real price for an item, I was respected, and sometimes congratulated for having done so.
For foreigners who overpaid what the seller first asked for, there was nothing but distain and loss of respect.
I don't know if the same principles apply with P4P girls, particularly as many of them have no experience in the real market, or with bargaining.
But I do believe that the guy who grossly overpays loses the respect of the girl who is servicing him.
G[/QUOTE]I don't know where you located but here in bars you can't negotiate. Some bars are 1500 P most around 1800 P.
For a freebies in other countries you can bargain with her like in Ukraine, Moldova or other FSU.
Good luck
[QUOTE=Ogman; 1247087]McDon, Sir Lancelot and all my esteemed monger mentors!
I am closing in on arrival in AC. I have read everything all the experts have provided and had one or two last minute bits of info I seek!
Frist off, I will need to stock up on Viagra, Kamgara or other similar support resources but I keep hearing about fakes (mostly Manila Posts). DOes anyone have recommendations on where to buy the best deals on these meds. I also would value any comments on the Indian brands or no names that you have tried successfully and where you'd recommend buying them as well.
Second, I am still vague on the bottle purchases as EWR coverage. Does anyone ever drink these bottles while sitting at the bar and then choose the girl they want to take out. If you chose a girl and bought the bottle, would she event drink it in the bar?
I do plan on paying a for LD for some mamasans so they can guide me to a girl who can supply my desires. It seems like a good investment since I do have a well scripted fun time.
Ogman[/QUOTE]don't know about viagra and the like, my wingman buys off the street and usually one pack, if its ok then he buys more the next day. I think he pays around 150-200p per pack. I have bought once Black Ant from one of the bars that was recommended to me by someone here on the forum. Have a look at Black Ant it works even if you drink. At least that was my experience.
Don't worry about the EWR procedure. Each bar has a different ritual these days. Some will just take the money and thats it, girl gets changed and you go with her, other bars bring a tray of drinks to you. Drink if you please, other bars sell you a bottle with the girl. The Party Animal crap is something you probably don't want in your mouth, I usually leave it to the girl and she gives it to her friends in the bar. Weather they have it or sell it back or whatever doesn't bother me. Point is you don't have to take it if you don't want it.
Be careful with the mamasan drinks they know how to play the game to perfection. Make sure you deal with her quick. Try getting some info from the waitress too.
Have fun, I will be around in AC as for few day next week so if anyone is there and wants to barhop PM me.
Ogman.
I had the time of my life on my cherry trip to AC in Dec 2011 for 3 weeks. So I am talking from a certain amount of experience.
The "party animal" bottle is generally left in the bar untouched, it is just a way to be politically correct & avoid the term bar fine.
I have had the most luck selecting girls thru eye contact or she just plops her ass down next to me & starts a conversation. It is best if you let her pick you, assuming she appeals to you. Before buying a drink I will ask if they are available to go out, if they are cherry girl or on mens. I have never involved the mommie in the selection process. After buying a drink, if there is chemistry between us, I will ask her to go out. Every bar has its own system on what they call it & how they bill you. Some just add it to your drink bill, some have the party animal & one I just paid the mommie for the girl & the drinks separately.
I use cialas & buy it on the net, just Google generic viagra or whatever & you will get plenty of hits. There is no use giving you a link because every time I go to reorder the last place I got it is offline. I have also bought 20mg cialas. 4 to a box outside Phillys Sports Bar, while sitting in the bar next to the sidewalk, it is open air. It is the real thing, but of course made in india thou it says otherwise. They ask for 500p for a box of 4, just say you have plenty of your own. They will eventually come down in price. Never buy at the first price. I have paid 500p for 2 box's & also 1000p for 5 box's. I can't use viagra so I don't know the going price. Just keep haggling with them.
SOme good posts for Ogman. Like McDon, I try to minimize my time with the mamas. But you have to be nice to them. I once shooed away a particularly annoying mama and later no girl in the bar would come near me.
And I've given up responding to those who post that the street sellers are selling fake stuff that doesn't work. Well, yes, it is made in India and has a FAKE label, but it works. I generally pay 200 to 250 for box of four of "Cialis" depending on how much I want to haggle. Once a guy offerred some just a few meters from a police office, so I guess someone is getting paid off. Or it just doesn't cross anyone's mind that it is illegal.
[QUOTE=Mc Don; 1247155]don't know about viagra and the like, my wingman buys off the street and usually one pack, if its ok then he buys more the next day. I think he pays around 150-200p per pack. I have bought once Black Ant from one of the bars that was recommended to me by someone here on the forum. Have a look at Black Ant it works even if you drink. At least that was my experience.
Don't worry about the EWR procedure. Each bar has a different ritual these days. Some will just take the money and thats it, girl gets changed and you go with her, other bars bring a tray of drinks to you. Drink if you please, other bars sell you a bottle with the girl. The Party Animal crap is something you probably don't want in your mouth, I usually leave it to the girl and she gives it to her friends in the bar. Weather they have it or sell it back or whatever doesn't bother me. Point is you don't have to take it if you don't want it.
Be careful with the mamasan drinks they know how to play the game to perfection. Make sure you deal with her quick. Try getting some info from the waitress too.
Have fun, I will be around in AC as for few day next week so if anyone is there and wants to barhop PM me.[/QUOTE]
When I am in Angeles City, I buy Cialis from the wholesale supplier, who is close to the Sports Bar.
I pay 100 pesos per pack of 4. That is the standard price.
I buy in lots of 50 or 100 boxes, lasts me a long time.
If you are paying more than 100 pesos per pack, then you are being ripped off. Maybe 150 per box of 4 from the street vendor is OK.
Do not pay more.
He pops around the corner and stocks up again from what you have bought.
G
[QUOTE=X Man; 1247407]SOme good posts for Ogman. Like McDon, I try to minimize my time with the mamas. But you have to be nice to them. I once shooed away a particularly annoying mama and later no girl in the bar would come near me.
And I've given up responding to those who post that the street sellers are selling fake stuff that doesn't work. Well, yes, it is made in India and has a FAKE label, but it works. I generally pay 200 to 250 for box of four of "Cialis" depending on how much I want to haggle. Once a guy offerred some just a few meters from a police office, so I guess someone is getting paid off. Or it just doesn't cross anyone's mind that it is illegal.[/QUOTE]
Somehow got talking to a young chap late last year in the mall restaurants. He had 2 bfs with him. I was alone. He was in his mid 20's, from Singapore. He takes Cialis so he can bang up to 10 times over a weekend to maximise the value of the trip. Seems excessive to me. The 2 bfs were too busy eating a rather large lunch to pay any attention to our conversation.
[quote=gangles; 1247605]when i am in angeles city, i buy cialis from the wholesale supplier, who is close to the sports bar.
i buy in lots of 50 or 100 boxes, lasts me a long time.
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you buy 200-400 tabs at a time. they work for 30-36 hours. are you buying the 5 mg daily dose? i pay around 12 dollars us for 1 20 mg tab in hong kong but i want to find a different source. twice, my generic mail order has been confirep001ed by hk customs.
[QUOTE=Gangles; 1247605]When I am in Angeles City, I buy Cialis from the wholesale supplier, who is close to the Sports Bar.
I pay 100 pesos per pack of 4. That is the standard price.
I buy in lots of 50 or 100 boxes, lasts me a long time.
If you are paying more than 100 pesos per pack, then you are being ripped off. Maybe 150 per box of 4 from the street vendor is OK.
Do not pay more.
He pops around the corner and stocks up again from what you have bought.
G[/QUOTE]This is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks!
[QUOTE=Ogman;1247887]This is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks![/QUOTE]Okay, I am talking to myself this time but I seek more wisdom from the expert mongers. I know folk have covered this in past posts so I apologize for not doing sufficient research (I did go back 10 pages) but can anyone recommend the best spots of S / T action in the daytime. I am not usually one for L / T since I need my sleep too. I am up and about by 10am usually and like to be on the hunt by 11 am or so give or take an hour. Is there earlier venues like a snack bar or somewhere else a monger could check if all the bars are too normal to be open at 9am for example in AC?
Only hours between me and Manila so less than 24 hours until I am hitting the AC streets.
Thanks in advance for your tutelage! <- hey that sounds a little dirty.