FKK Palace - Frankfurt

[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2029485]I can't say this has happened a lot, maybe 5-6 times at Palace out of 100+ and this happens at other FKK's too but I'll focus on Palace because this is the Palace thread.

But sometimes I'll get into the room, the girl lays down the towel and she says lay down.

At this point I don't always want to lay down and have her service me right away, I want to touch her and have a little foreplay. Touching, petting, light kissing on her body. So I tell them but she insists that I lay down so she can start in with the blowjob and then gets annoyed with me that I want to touch her body and starts rolling her eyes at me.
[/QUOTE]Happened to me at Mainhattan recently that a girl didn't want to lay down next to me at the start of the room (just to chat or whatever), insisting that was not part of the basic service, wanting to start with blow and finish me off as quickly as possible unless I agreed to pay more or spend more than half an hour.

I just walked out. She was upset about losing her 50 but for me, best way to handle this. Fortunately, this pretty much never happens to me so I rarely have to do this, but for me, just walking out sends the right message.

It's too bad everyone doesn't do exactly this -- that would cut down on this BS pretty quickly. Unfortunately, too many guys just give in these BS antics, thus encouraging this kind of behavior.

[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2029740]Happened to me at Mainhattan recently that a girl didn't want to lay down next to me at the start of the room (just to chat or whatever), insisting that was not part of the basic service, wanting to start with blow and finish me off as quickly as possible unless I agreed to pay more or spend more than half an hour.

I just walked out. She was upset about losing her 50 but for me, best way to handle this. Fortunately, this pretty much never happens to me so I rarely have to do this, but for me, just walking out sends the right message.

It's too bad everyone doesn't do exactly this -- that would cut down on this BS pretty quickly. Unfortunately, too many guys just give in these BS antics, thus encouraging this kind of behavior.[/QUOTE]Then she will say "please come back darling I give you good service. Lets talk" LOL.

[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2029485]I can't say this has happened a lot, maybe 5-6 times at Palace out of 100+ and this happens at other FKK's too but I'll focus on Palace because this is the Palace thread.

But sometimes I'll get into the room, the girl lays down the towel and she says lay down.

At this point I don't always want to lay down and have her service me right away, I want to touch her and have a little foreplay. Touching, petting, light kissing on her body. So I tell them but she insists that I lay down so she can start in with the blowjob and then gets annoyed with me that I want to touch her body and starts rolling her eyes at me.

Should I.

1. Walk out?

2. Tell her I want foreplay first and insist or threaten to not pay her?

3. Just lay down and accept her finishing me off as quickly as possible pay her and move on?

4. discuss what I want in great depth before we enter the room?

See I always thought touching and foreplay was part of the 50 Euro price for 30 min. If I get DFK and DATY that is always a bonus and many times, but not all times I usually get it.

In the past (in my 20's) if she's really hot I'll just accept it and get serviced and move on, but as I get older (37) I'm starting to want a little more from the girls in terms of GFE.[/QUOTE]Ignore her and do what you want. If she protests, walk out. Once the BJ starts she has you trapped so that's why she's pushing for it.

[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2029740]Happened to me at Mainhattan recently that a girl didn't want to lay down next to me at the start of the room (just to chat or whatever), insisting that was not part of the basic service, wanting to start with blow and finish me off as quickly as possible unless I agreed to pay more or spend more than half an hour.

I just walked out. She was upset about losing her 50 but for me, best way to handle this. Fortunately, this pretty much never happens to me so I rarely have to do this, but for me, just walking out sends the right message.

It's too bad everyone doesn't do exactly this -- that would cut down on this BS pretty quickly. Unfortunately, too many guys just give in these BS antics, thus encouraging this kind of behavior.[/QUOTE]Correct action. I can't stand girls who want to do their set program. I tell her to lie down. I am paying to enjoy her body.

[QUOTE=Exodus8;2029746]Then she will say "please come back darling I give you good service. Lets talk" LOL.[/QUOTE]Followed by "ok, we don't have anything interesting to talk about. Lets start?

[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2029485]

4. discuss what I want in great depth before we enter the room?

[/QUOTE]I would discuss in great depth.

But that ruins the mood for most guys. You could just say something more casual I suppose like "My last visit, the WG didn't want to have foreplay. " Or "We agreed on DFK beforehand and then inside the room, she only DFK for 30 seconds". And see if that elicits a negative response. Sort of less direct than asking. Maybe that would open a dialog.

Then again its Palace. Better bring more money. Or white powder.

Pretty dead. I saw no more than 10 different girls and even thought of calling it a day and finish the Viagra in the RLD.

Fortunately, there were few active customers so 6 or 7 girls were available at any one time. I sessioned 4 of them, 3 of whom insisted 69 was to be "looking only, no licking". One of them even spelled out that "licking was not included in the standard price". The girl who was OK with licking, a BBW "Russian" blonde with a black corset, was reluctant to perform BBBJ. I hadn't faced such restrictions at Manhattan the day before. I sometimes tip a girl 10 Euro but I didn't tip any girl this time.

Before 6 pm Palace can be pretty dead. Especially if there's no exhibition at the Messe.

HB.

[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2029485]I can't say this has happened a lot, maybe 5-6 times at Palace out of 100+ and this happens at other FKK's too but I'll focus on Palace because this is the Palace thread.

But sometimes I'll get into the room, the girl lays down the towel and she says lay down.

At this point I don't always want to lay down and have her service me right away, I want to touch her and have a little foreplay. Touching, petting, light kissing on her body. So I tell them but she insists that I lay down so she can start in with the blowjob and then gets annoyed with me that I want to touch her body and starts rolling her eyes at me.

Should I.

1. Walk out?

2. Tell her I want foreplay first and insist or threaten to not pay her?

3. Just lay down and accept her finishing me off as quickly as possible pay her and move on?

4. discuss what I want in great depth before we enter the room?

See I always thought touching and foreplay was part of the 50 Euro price for 30 min. If I get DFK and DATY that is always a bonus and many times, but not all times I usually get it.

In the past (in my 20's) if she's really hot I'll just accept it and get serviced and move on, but as I get older (37) I'm starting to want a little more from the girls in terms of GFE.[/QUOTE]I know there are different theories to the possible outcomes.

My take, think about the chances of such interactions occur in the club. Palace in this instance.

Also, the guys would want to know what the type of services offerings by a girl, instead of buying a 50 without any preknowledge. Again, think about what club you are at.

The chances are there that the girl will ask about services and layout pricing in the room at Palace.

Be specific when you talk to her so that when you get in there there is no ambiguity in what was said, and get into the room she gets specific with the pricing. Move on if she no agreement in the specifics.

Either that or you can not mention what is that you like at all, and risk being through your 50's, your call.

For me, the real test is how much of an occurrance that when you get in the room, the girls layout her pricing.

[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2030282]I know there are different theories to the possible outcomes.

My take, think about the chances of such interactions occur in the club. Palace in this instance.

Also, the guys would want to know what the type of services offerings by a girl, instead of buying a 50 without any preknowledge. Again, think about what club you are at.

The chances are there that the girl will ask about services and layout pricing in the room at Palace.

Be specific when you talk to her so that when you get in there there is no ambiguity in what was said, and get into the room she gets specific with the pricing. Move on if she no agreement in the specifics.

Either that or you can not mention what is that you like at all, and risk being through your 50's, your call.

For me, the real test is how much of an occurrance that when you get in the room, the girls layout her pricing.[/QUOTE]You guys always talk about the services and pricing after going inside the room with girls instead of before that?

I'm just sayin get it cleared before taking her if you can. Don't wait until you are in the room.

But, foreplay that kinda stuff is weird to bring up. For that kind of stuff, you should interact with the girl and see how she responds.

Foreplay should ideally be outside to get you going.

Palace is really not the club for GFE. The irony in that.

[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2030282]I know there are different theories to the possible outcomes.

My take, think about the chances of such interactions occur in the club. Palace in this instance.

Also, the guys would want to know what the type of services offerings by a girl, instead of buying a 50 without any preknowledge. Again, think about what club you are at.

The chances are there that the girl will ask about services and layout pricing in the room at Palace.

Be specific when you talk to her so that when you get in there there is no ambiguity in what was said, and get into the room she gets specific with the pricing. Move on if she no agreement in the specifics.

Either that or you can not mention what is that you like at all, and risk being through your 50's, your call.

For me, the real test is how much of an occurrance that when you get in the room, the girls layout her pricing.[/QUOTE]FKK Palace is not the club for constant good service or fair pricing, so being specific is the only way one can possibly do to get good service at palace.

Though in most cased at Palace, you have to pay more than set rate to do so. Oase seems similar lately.

Sharks tend to be better for service, but I feel Hessen area is not service or set rate FKK destination.

Nrw is much better for fair rate and good service and good girls mentality to monger as it is fair and I do not have to negotiate hard at nrw.

[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2030484]I'm just sayin get it cleared before taking her if you can. Don't wait until you are in the room.

But, foreplay that kinda stuff is weird to bring up. For that kind of stuff, you should interact with the girl and see how she responds.

Foreplay should ideally be outside to get you going.

Palace is really not the club for GFE. The irony in that.[/QUOTE]I think to some extent foreplay outside is OK, but what about things like touching and rubbing her pussy?

This is an example of her not allowing me to do it in the room. I go straight for it when she lays down the towel and she backs away as if I'm not allowed to do it. That's when she says "lay down, lay down". I just want to touch her for a few minutes, no more then 2-5 minutes then I'm hard and want my BBBJ. Now if she does something like this I know to walk the heck out of the room and not look back.

[QUOTE=DashuTerry;2030304]You guys always talk about the services and pricing after going inside the room with girls instead of before that?[/QUOTE]I never talk about pricing with the girls. Some girls feel like they have to start and tell me about their pricing. Which often leads to cancelling the date.

HB.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;2030680]I never talk about pricing with the girls. Some girls feel like they have to start and tell me about their pricing. Which often leads to cancelling the date.

HB.[/QUOTE]The best approach for me also. I don't think I've ever been with a girl who gave me a price menu. If it is a new girl I gently indicate I only do 50 on a first meeting, but that I usually repeat long sessions after: if I get a poor reaction then I terminate ithe discussion.