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LoveShibuyaGirls, thanks a lot for your posts.

[QUOTE=LoveShibuyaGirls; 1361508]Go to Roppongi for freebies.

If you tell us a little more about yourself (eg age, ethnicity) we can tell you exactly which bar to go to.[/QUOTE]What about a mid-20's, average-looking white dude with distinct European features? Could you please list your favourite places in Roppongi with the highest chance of scoring? .

I only have experience with non-Roppongi clubs and, unfortunately, didn't have any luck during my 5-7 visits.

See, I am not lying when I say that my Japanese is really bad!

Yuri's age, I would say something around 35 or a tad more. I did not get a chance to see the others, yet.

[QUOTE=PorkLobster; 1366848]Better not, as the homepage clearly states that the 12k / 100 minute course is only availabe on Mondays and Tuesdays before 6 pm.

BTW, how old is Yuri (and the other girls there)?[/QUOTE]

Maybe, I will try in Feb or March. Maybe all the Japanese guys are busy blowing their year-end bonuses right now.

Both Clover and Eve seem to be standard KDH places, so it has occurred to me that maybe I just don't like Korean girls.

I guess the they are just very good at marketing! I keep wanting to go back for some reason.

[QUOTE=PorkLobster; 1366847]Really? That's too bad, but I guess it's a very busy week. Perhaps your luck will change later in January.

But you've already tried a few KDH, no? I've never tried Clover, but if you were underwhelmed by Eve, I'm afraid you might be disappointed overall.[/QUOTE]

Well I'm not sure what you mean by European features, aside from that you are white.

However, I would say Gas Panic is your best bet. Try to go with a few friends, since most girls there will be in groups, and it will be hard for you to approach a group of girls alone.

If you speak another European language, like French or Italian, you can try to impress the girls with that.

Where did you go outside of Roppongi?

[QUOTE=Shimb4; 1366874]LoveShibuyaGirls, thanks a lot for your posts.

What about a mid-20's, average-looking white dude with distinct European features? Could you please list your favourite places in Roppongi with the highest chance of scoring? .

I only have experience with non-Roppongi clubs and, unfortunately, didn't have any luck during my 5-7 visits.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LoveShibuyaGirls;1367101]it has occurred to me that maybe I just don't like Korean girls.[/QUOTE]I don't think it's that. It might be that the 'gaijin dame' stores have higher quality girls, perhaps. The ones I've seen here so far have been maybe above average, and I've seen lots of Korean girls in the states, some in California that were stunning and provided every service I've gotten in Japan (CFS included). It's either we don't have access to the higher tier stores, or some Korean girls go to the states instead of Japan because they probably make more money there and while Nakadashi happens, it isn't expected with every customer.

On the same note, I saw Eva from [url]http://www.dh7-newcinderella.com[/url] Recently, thinking due to the holidays and scheduling during the day I'd get in. She's listed as their number one girl, but the PO didn't seem to blink when I asked for her. The PO kind of snuck one by me though, but I'm not really sure since I didn't catch all the Japanese. The last conversation I had with her (after I'd already checked into the love hotel) was something about condom usage- I'm not sure if she ASKED if I wanted to use condoms, or TOLD me that condoms were required. It didn't really matter either way, but that's kind of a crappy thing to do given it was the 3rd time I'd spoken with her.

I was looking for a slender girl, and Eva's definitely that, but not the tight package advertised. Attractive but not stunning face, reminded me a little of JAV actress Eri Ouka. Eva's probably in her late 20s. I'd give her about a 7 in overall appearance. Speaks decent English (actually probably better than her Japanese) , very GFE, total sweetheart. I don't think she's in town long, so I probably won't repeat.

It has often been written, both on this board as well as elsewhere on the internet, that Black Horse / 911 is a good place to find freelance working girls.

However, at least since Black Horse re-opened last year, I have not seen anything even remotely resembling a hooker at that place.

Last night, however, there was a woman at Black Horse that was obviously a hooker. She was wearing a hot pink dress, and a had a huge set of bolt-ons. She looked like she was in her late 20s. I think she was Japanese. She was just standing there by herself, in a way that she would obviously be seen by everyone. That is what made it clear that she was a hooker.

I didn't talk to her, so I don't know that the terms would have been. Eventually she left with a middle-aged Japanese guy.

I don't know if she came to Black Horse because her usual hunting ground was closed for New Years. But she really stuck out.

[QUOTE=LoveShibuyaGirls; 1368543]It has often been written, both on this board as well as elsewhere on the internet, that Black Horse / 911 is a good place to find freelance working girls.

However, at least since Black Horse re-opened last year, I have not seen anything even remotely resembling a hooker at that place.

Last night, however, there was a woman at Black Horse that was obviously a hooker. She was wearing a hot pink dress, and a had a huge set of bolt-ons. She looked like she was in her late 20s. I think she was Japanese. She was just standing there by herself, in a way that she would obviously be seen by everyone. That is what made it clear that she was a hooker.

I didn't talk to her, so I don't know that the terms would have been. Eventually she left with a middle-aged Japanese guy.

I don't know if she came to Black Horse because her usual hunting ground was closed for New Years. But she really stuck out.[/QUOTE]Worth further investigation. She could be a stripper or hostess scouting for business. I have been "hit on" by strippers in Roppongi trying to entice me back to their "place". When business is slow the strippers have to pound the streets and clubs looking for suckers.

[QUOTE=PorkLobster; 1363607]I have tried at least 20 KDH girls over the past two years and being a gaijin has rarely been a problem, but then my Japanese is much better than the mama-sans'.

First of all, however, some more caveats.

KDH is a world of its own and different rules apply. It is also very much a hit-or-miss affair, but I usually have had a very good time.

![/QUOTE]I am a bit late replying to this, but nice work PorkLobster! I had been thinking of posting something similar as I have used KDH on and off for a few years now to some degree of success. Whilst there are duds, many KDH girls are hot and I've had some pretty wild sex. So I would second pretty much everything you've written, but thought I'd add a few thoughts and tips on working with KDH.

1. As said, be prepared to do some research beforehand. Use the Kan Deli site to read up on what girls from which agencies have been given favourable reviews. If you can't read Japanese, use rikaichan or another similar on-the-fly translator to help you understand. Look carefully at videos more than photos when choosing girls as they have more clues as to appearance. Ages of girls is also a big pile of nonsense. 19 yrs old means more early 20s. 20 means mid to late 20s and 21/22 means almost 30 upwards.

When you have a good notion of which girls and agencies offer good services, make a note somewhere of girl's names and phone numbers. This will help you avert the element of disappointment as girls and agencies change constantly. The most important thing is a to make a note of which girls have been there longest or who have bad / mediocre service reviews. Avoid them and you'll most likely come out on top.

2. The gaijin dame thing is there, but just take as many steps to deal with it. While it is known that this exists as part of the general "polite racism / xenophobia" of the Japanese delivery health system, maybe Koreans have never heard of irony in that they exclude foreigners from paying for sex from well, other foreigners. I think that probably almost all Korean girls in the biz and some of the mama-sans are probably not that bothered by gaijin customers. However, by pointing out that you are a foreigner on the phone or making it obvious from your Japanese skills, you are asking the mamas to take responsibility for you ordering, which is a big no-no. Like Porklobster, every KDH girl that has come to the hotel has been totally not bothered that I'm a gaijin. Most have either been excited or nonchalant but never dismissive. One girl called the mama san and mentioned I was a gaijin, to which the mama said "dame, don't go with a gaijin", only for girl to reply "don't worry, he's nice" and stay with me. But I am half Asian which probably helps.

So plan ahead. Make sure your Japanese is fluent enough to deal with the mama sans. Most times, they are Korean ladies with non-native abilities so you can fool them. I check into a hotel ahead of time. I then use the room phone to call an agency and say simply "Hello, I'm in uguisudani now, which girls are available?" They then list the girls, I choose one and say the name of the hotel and room number and it's done. The rest is chance. If there are problems, I call another agency until I get a hit. Most times it is less than 3 calls.

3. Quality always varies. Girls who are popular tend to get overworked quickly and I've had better experiences with new girls. Ordering earlier in the day is also better as you will most likely be the first customer of the day. Girls can be either rubbish lay there types, or professional girls who lay you down and try to make you finish quick types or enthusiastic sex friend types who are up for anything. Most times they fall into the latter two categories as the first kind tends not to last in the business. Remember to be friendly and put the girl at ease as much as you can. I usually offer some drinks and have a chat for a few minutes before getting in the shower. If she feels relaxed and enjoys the experience, you are likely to as well. And if you do get a bad experience, like any other mongering adventure, it can happen so just chalk it up to bad luck and move on. Always be polite and give gaijin a good name.

So that's me spent. If anyone has any questions I'll try to answer.

Happy hunting,

BC

i used a provider popular on these forums after a few days i got pain when i urinated. after going to the doctor i was diagonosed with a 'urinary tract infection'. strictly speaking this isn't a std, although sufferers often have the clap as well. i tested negative for everything else.

i am more than 99% sure i got it from an uncovered bj.

actually, usually i [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord111][CodeWord111][/url] soon after using a sex provider to clean the tubes. i didn't do it this case. so that might explain why i was 'unlucky'.

be careful out there. i guess there is a very small chance of getting something from uncovered bj. i suppose in the future i will be more careful but i guess i will still get uncovered going forward.

shesh! dirty mouthed madams!

Has anyone tried the Japan backpage yet for tokyo? I tried calling a few numbers but no one ever replies.

Thoughts?

wow, too bad.

please tell us the precise name of this diseased provider so we can avoid her at all costs.

[quote=mickeyhouse69; 1368761]i used a provider popular on these forums after a few days i got pain when i urinated. after going to the doctor i was diagonosed with a 'urinary tract infection'. strictly speaking this isn't a std, although sufferers often have the clap as well. i tested negative for everything else.

i am more than 99% sure i got it from an uncovered bj.

actually, usually i [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord111][CodeWord111][/url] soon after using a sex provider to clean the tubes. i didn't do it this case. so that might explain why i was 'unlucky'.

be careful out there. i guess there is a very small chance of getting something from uncovered bj. i suppose in the future i will be more careful but i guess i will still get uncovered going forward.

shesh! dirty mouthed madams![/quote]

All.

Just wondering if anyone has experience at Omiya Hips?

[url]www.hips-omiya.jp[/url]

I called the shop yesterday. The tencho didn't seem to be put off by the fact that I am a foreigner, and was even a bit patient with not being able to understand my Japanese at first. I requested a certain girl from the schedule, but he then said that she had just called in to cancel for the day. I assumed that this was code for "She does not take foreigners". However, I then checked the webpage and she was indeed off of the schedule. So it seems like this place is open to foreigners, although they will probably have to check with the girl first.

I'm only interested because it seems like a cheap place to get AF from a Shibuya type girl. A lot of those slutty Shibuya girls live in Saitama it seems.

There are no videos on the webpage, and a lot of the photos on the webpage are face-only and taken from an above angle (eg hiding the fact that the chick is fat). I'm not naive and know that the girl will probably not be as cute as she looks in the photos. But it seems like here you can get AF for maybe 25000 in total.

[quote=mickeyhouse69; 1368761]i used a provider popular on these forums after a few days i got pain when i urinated. after going to the doctor i was diagonosed with a 'urinary tract infection'. strictly speaking this isn't a std, although sufferers often have the clap as well. i tested negative for everything else.

i am more than 99% sure i got it from an uncovered bj.

actually, usually i [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord111][CodeWord111][/url] soon after using a sex provider to clean the tubes. i didn't do it this case. so that might explain why i was 'unlucky'.

be careful out there. i guess there is a very small chance of getting something from uncovered bj. i suppose in the future i will be more careful but i guess i will still get uncovered going forward.

shesh! dirty mouthed madams![/quote]maybe not that small of a chance. me and at least 3 others got infections from bbbj at a otsuka pink salon over the summer, as reported here.

Finally had a chance to get Ayaka at Hinomaru. Had to wait 20 minutes though, as the shop was busy.

I will compare her to Rumi as she is my reference at this shop. Although they are both listed as being 26, Rumi is certainly over 30 while Ayaka might well be 26 and definetely looks young. She is also really cute. However, her skills are not as good as Rumi's. Still she did a nice job and it felt really good but I prefer Rumi's technique.

So my advise for Hinomaru: if you want a cute girl to service you, Ayaka is your choice (from the pictures on the board I would say she is the cutest) ; if skills are what matters most to you, then Rumi is the way to go (although I have not tried every girl working there).

[QUOTE=Rick Rock;1369163]Maybe not that small of a chance. Me and at least 3 others got infections from BBBJ at a Otsuka pink salon over the summer, as reported here.[/QUOTE]Getting BBBJ s definitively a risk. Whatever you do to prevent it, wherever and whoever with you indulge in it.

There are 3 points to consider when discussing this:

1) Frequency of the problem: speculative, but probably more likely to happen in places with poor hygiene, and with girls on high turnover.

2) How big the consequences: to my opinion, low, easy to treat with one pill.

3) How big the loss of enjoyment if you refrain? To me big, I can hardly come with a CBJ.

So each one analyses those 3 points and have his own answers. The conclusions may be that some of us (me) don't care, but some others do.

Same apply to FSbarebacking. In my case the answers to those questions lead me to say "no" to FSBB. To each is own, as always. Noone will die anyway.