Safe Sex

[QUOTE=YG365;1350925]I'm still more cautious about wrapping my junior up and also taking the time to see if the girls have any outbreaks.[/QUOTE]Herpes simplex type 2 can be spread when there is no active outbreak. As Rock correctly explains, a person with herpes is "shedding" the virus from the surface of the skin even when no blisters are showing. And, as he again explains correctly, the shedding can be from the skin around the opening of the vagina where the base of the penis, which is not usually covered by a condom, makes contact.

The problem with those medications is that they wipe out all flora, not just the bacteria causing the odor. They can also lead to resistance of other, much more dangerous infection agents. That's why they are not recommended in many countries with advanced health care systems.

BV isn't completely understood, even by the medical community. It's believed that it's a result of an imbalance, not an outside infection. That is, it's like a yeast infection. Yeast is ALWAYS present in a woman's vagina. The problem comes when the amount of yeast grows too high and outnumbers everything else. And the two are often confused for each other, with similar symptoms. Up to half of the women treating for yeast infections actually have BV.

The good thing is that BV causes no problems other than the odor mentioned, for men or women. It usually goes away after a woman has her period, which helps restore balance. Of course it often comes back and they practice the same habits (sexual activity, foreign objects inside that are not clean, wearing thongs, wiping from back to front, etc).

If it's a big problem for you, stock up on Rephresh and bring it over with you. Maybe you can start an NGO and raise money to Save the Endangered Pinay Pussy.

[QUOTE=Skip Kost;1351225]Herpes simplex type 2 can be spread when there is no active outbreak. As Rock correctly explains, a person with herpes is "shedding" the virus from the surface of the skin even when no blisters are showing. And, as he again explains correctly, the shedding can be from the skin around the opening of the vagina where the base of the penis, which is not usually covered by a condom, makes contact.[/QUOTE]Yep, it definitely can. So can the other form. Incidentally, both forms can cause outbreaks on either the mouth or the genitals. It's not the case as some believe that one form attacks only the genitals and the other attacks only the mouth. If you've had a cold sore, you have one or both forms. Even if you haven't, you probably do. Your immune system is just strong enough to repress it.

The good news is that it's not harmful for men. It's been around for as long as we humans have and only became a major issue with the moral panic that broke out (pun intended) in the 80's. Before that it wasn't even considered something to seek treatment for. More good news, it most often spreads during an outbreak, so you at least have a chance at noticing it beforehand. (Though with the drunken stupor I see a lot of punters living in while in AC, that's probably not going to happen).

[QUOTE=Rick Rock;1350913]Genital warts don't cause a single blister. They cause. Warts on the genitals.[/QUOTE]Had a few back in the mid-80s. Military co-workers showed no sympathy and accused me of fucking frogs. Doctor held me by the fore skin and dabbed the little buggers with a few drops of liquid nitrogen. Burned like a house afire and no sex for 10 days but that cured them. Same treatment for some planters warts on my feet.

[QUOTE=GregLondon; 1350541]As others have commented guys have different views about spreading their seed willy nilly. Some take the cynical though perhaps rational view that these girls will get pregnant with someone in any case so they may as well have their fun if there are no consequences. As someone else commented, I personally would not like the idea of having a child of mine brought up in poverty by a single Pinay mum relying on hooking to buy the essentials for the kid.

I remember meeting a tall blonde girl in a Sihanoukville Vietnamese brothel some years ago. Though she spoke almost no English she was a really nice and passionate girl. One day she brought her little box containing more or less her only valuables with her. She showed me the faded passport size photo of a Canadian guy in a red lumberjack shirt which is all she knew about her father though she seemed to be convinced he was a good guy who she loved, despite the slender evidence that he had many admirable qualities.[/QUOTE]My boss was Air Force, stationed in Korea 20-some years ago. They used to be in Angeles all the time (for work) , and he barebacked girls all the time. He's certain he must have a least a couple of kids there. He still goes to Angeles once or twice a year and he won't get with a half white girl there because he's worried about sleeping with his daughter.

[QUOTE=Nvslim;1351375]Military co-workers showed no sympathy and accused me of fucking frogs. Doctor held me by the fore skin and dabbed the little buggers with a few drops of liquid nitrogen.[/QUOTE]Nitrogen is the cat's meow for virtually any solid skin lesion except malignant tumors. Absent having your own source of liquid nitrogen (a logistical nightmare) , Podophylline 0. 5% cream works great on warts applied judiciously and strictly by prescribed directions.

On HSV, yes you can get oral lesions from dining on HSV II (genital) BUT these are NOT lasting and HSV II (genital) does NOT take permanent residence in the mouth. Continued low dose acyclovir (e. G. Valtrex) does a good job at reducing or eliminating flare ups and shedding.

On other viruses (these "gifts that keep giving") ; most forms of sexually transmitted hepatitis (esp B and C) are rarely if ever transmitted by conventional heterosex including DATY. You can get a very effective vaccine for Hep B and within the last year the US FDA has approved virtually curative drugs / combo therapies for Hep C.

HIV: Not only is this a poorly transmitted virus for conventional heterosex, but large studies in the last 18 months essentially have proven that with taking retroviral agents following seroconversion (e. G. Positive HIV test) , HIV does NOT progress to AIDS. This is in contrast to the former and current pervasive standard of care of prescribing retroviral agents only after HIV has begun its progression to immunodepletion and AIDS.

[QUOTE=Sammon;1350999]IMHO you cannot blame it on only Koreans. Mongers from all countries bareback in angeles.[/QUOTE]Very true, including myself until 2010 or so. It's just what a mamasan told me.

Cheers!

[QUOTE=Yibkeith;1351633]My boss was Air Force, stationed in Korea 20-some years ago. They used to be in Angeles all the time (for work) , and he barebacked girls all the time. He's certain he must have a least a couple of kids there. He still goes to Angeles once or twice a year and he won't get with a half white girl there because he's worried about sleeping with his daughter.[/QUOTE]Wow, what a fucking humanitarian.

[QUOTE=Pete Benetar; 1351761]Nitrogen is the cat's meow for virtually any solid skin lesion except malignant tumors. Absent having your own source of liquid nitrogen (a logistical nightmare) , Podophylline 0. 5% cream works great on warts applied judiciously and strictly by prescribed directions.

On HSV, yes you can get oral lesions from dining on HSV II (genital) BUT these are NOT lasting and HSV II (genital) does NOT take permanent residence in the mouth. Continued low dose acyclovir (e. G. Valtrex) does a good job at reducing or eliminating flare ups and shedding.[/QUOTE]Huh? When HSV 2 goes into neural ganglia (latency) it typically takes up residence in the sacral ganglia. But not always. Outbreaks can happen theoretically anywhere.

[quote]HIV: Not only is this a poorly transmitted virus for conventional heterosex, but large studies in the last 18 months essentially have proven that with taking retroviral agents following seroconversion (e. G. Positive HIV test) , HIV does NOT progress to AIDS. This is in contrast to the former and current pervasive standard of care of prescribing retroviral agents only after HIV has begun its progression to immunodepletion and AIDS.[/QUOTE]Eh, I'd rather stay HIV free and not have to worry about it. And note too that some strains of HIV have higher hetero-sex transmission rates than others. The strain most prominent in SE Asia for example.

[QUOTE=Rick Rock;1351891]Eh, I'd rather stay HIV free and not have to worry about it. And note too that some strains of HIV have higher hetero-sex transmission rates than others. The strain most prominent in SE Asia for example.[/QUOTE]Agreed. Good hygene and safe sex in particular are critical in my book.

Who knows if there is a new nasty virus out there, I don't want to be on the bleeding edge of infection to be studied after I catch it! Remember the first victims of AIDS? The people who were having unprotected sex with multiple partners.

Also, bugs in general are getting more and more resistant to known antibiotics all the time. As far as I know there hasn't been any new antibiotics released for 10-20 years, so once syphllis / gonners / etc becomes less susceptable to the heavy hitters we have left we are no better off than they were in 1900.

FWIW, look at how Hep D makes Hep B worse. And how some virii cause cancer. The thought of a new bug that combines with one of the common ones and causes.say- pancreatic or bowel cancer is pretty scary. Especially if people are laughing off the consequences of STIs we know about. I'm confident what we know about medical risks is just scratching the surface of what's out there.

I don't want to preach, but being on the safe side is smarter than finding out the hard way.

I had the cold sores all my life. All school pictures. At 50 in Costa Rica with a condom on. The part of the base of our dick that comes in contact with their pussys. Well about three days latter I had a sore at the base. Little as it is of course. And was told I now had herpies 3, called gentails herpies. And with Valtrex it was gone in about a week, I took 1 gram, or 1000mg three times a day for two weeks. Then 1 gram a day for a year. Then wait and see. Doctor said many never see another out break, After 6 months I got a sore and waited a week for it to go away thinking let my body fight it off. The outbreaks get a lot less after the years go by. The doctor said it is not the way. So I went on 2 grams a day for two weeks. And 6 months of 1 gram a day. I had one about 2 years ago and just took the Valtrex for 3 months. When I go to monger I take Valtrex for at least 30 days before my trip. And every day during my trip. A couple of years ago a girl told me I gave her herpies. I had been taking Valtrex. Doc, said slim chance of spreading. And WR told me he knew the girl and she was scamming me because I had told her. I was engaged as you guys might remember. She never had a out break. I had warts as a married man who swung with his wife. Got the freeze and they have not come back in ten years and know girl has ever mentioned it to me. I live in states. To be honest in the last 5 years I am only getting layed on mongering trips. I just got back from Thailand. Mostly covered. But a few bb, Guys to be honest I fucked bombs for day covered and never came. But I am getting old, Take bllod meds and diabetties meds. I can nut once a day. But jacking off is the only constant any more. Yet I still love the hunt for the experince. I love the beautifull soft skin, I love eating pussy and tasting her get that nut. I know going into a working girl house and eating pussy is the brunt of many a joke. Before the fiance dumped me I thought and hoped all this would be my past. 40 year past yes. But still past. But I am back at it. And marriage feels like a dirty word again. Hope this helps with sTDs and letting some of you know you are not alone.

[QUOTE=VaderBule;1350762]With the various incurable bugs out there with pretty dire consequences, I can't understand why any educated man would want to have unprotected sex in a red light district.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Tabasco72; 1350828]But it's not only about "pusher in" immune system. I know, you will not like what I say, but friends, when you fuck bareback, think about other mongers. When WG transmit somewhere to you, you will transmit it to next girl, and next, and next. And those girls can transmit to another Johns. And another. It's just not fair.

T. 72[/QUOTE]How did the AC forum devolve to a discussion of STD's and safe sex (a violation of forum rules)? Can we get back to field reports? RR, good medical info for the gents.

[I]No Safe Sex Complaints. Forum Members wishing to criticize other Members for not following what they consider to be safe sex procedures may do so only in the Safe Sex Thread. Members may not comment upon, criticize or confront other members on this subject in the general discussion threads. Any such "safe sex complaints" posted in the general discussion threads will be deleted without comment. [/I]

[QUOTE=Redman69;1351956]in Costa Rica with a condom on. The part of the base of our dick that comes in contact with their pussys. Well about three days latter I had a sore at the base. Little as it is of course. And was told I now had herpies 3, called gentails herpies.[/QUOTE]There is an easy way to protect the base of the penis that is not covered by condoms. Buy a universal silicone replacement donut sleeve for a penis pump, preferably clear silicone. Cut off the indented part where the cylinder slides in. The part remaining is a thick silicone gasket. Put that over the erect penis and slide it down as far as possible before putting on a condom. This will prevent the skin to skin contact that can result in herpes or HPV infection.

Where would I buy this one?

Is this the right one?

[url]http://www.amazon.com/Includes-Personal-Lubricant-Universal-Replacement/dp/B000LQNS5W/ref=sr_1_2?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1353646003&sr=1-2&keywords=silicone[/url]+donut.

[QUOTE=John Dough;1352122]There is an easy way to protect the base of the penis that is not covered by condoms. Buy a universal silicone replacement donut sleeve for a penis pump, preferably clear silicone. Cut off the indented part where the cylinder slides in. The part remaining is a thick silicone gasket. Put that over the erect penis and slide it down as far as possible before putting on a condom. This will prevent the skin to skin contact that can result in herpes or HPV infection.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Westcoast1; 1352011]How did the AC forum devolve to a discussion of STD's and safe sex (a violation of forum rules)? Can we get back to field reports? RR, good medical info for the gents.

[I]No Safe Sex Complaints. Forum Members wishing to criticize other Members for not following what they consider to be safe sex procedures may do so only in the Safe Sex Thread. Members may not comment upon, criticize or confront other members on this subject in the general discussion threads. Any such "safe sex complaints" posted in the general discussion threads will be deleted without comment. [/I][/QUOTE]VB's post may, in the strictest sense, criticize others' actions in general, but he did not direct his comments to any member in particular. That is, his was not a personal attack or criticism. As for the others of us who participated in the discussioin, the rules do not prohibit discussions of STDs and safe sex; they prohibit criticizing other members for their behavior with regard to safe sex. I think the point of this ongoing discussion was the impression that STI rates in AC are alleged to be on the rise. Whether or not that is true, it seems to me that reliable information about HPV, HSV, and so on is a sensible thing to share in a forum about AC. People can then decide for themselves what levels of protection they want to take. I don't understand why you'd be so troubled by that.