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[QUOTE=Stykler;1995998]Sorry Pedros, that is wrong. We have a first world police force here (despite what we think sometimes) that know about places well before you and I discover them. If you know where a certain place is, they do as well. Don't let paranoia rule over commonsense.[/QUOTE]Stykler. We will disagree on a number of fronts there none the least I think in the main out police are pretty incompetent, but that's not for discussion in this forum and before people jump to conclusions never have I had a run in with them a totally clean history, accept for numerous motor related fines, I seem to have an aversion for them in a similar way to RnTs.

Sure they have levels of intelligence and ways of gathering information including working in conjunction withe the likes of local councils and residents but I will never be convinced they wouldn't be active on sites like this to gather a bit more info where at all possible, as requires little work.

Pedro.

Interesting to note that some members here pass judgment and comment on posts and establishments that have only a handful of posts, presumably meaning they haven't been on her long?

In line with my previous post don't cast aspersions and make matter of fact statements can I suggest, this site has been pretty good of late but at times in the past has been ruined by this sort of thing, to the point I never even bothers at one point.

If people praise a joint that's there impression, each to their own, conceding also that some punters appear to get to closely involved with ML, not unique I know!

Enjoy.

Pedro.

G'day All.

I do believe that most comments made here are correct that not only do they use these sites as verification they also use them as research. But I suspect research for more nefarious activities.

If we as punters and in fact our own wives at times can drive past a "dodgy" massage joint and not recognise it for what it is then I am sure any enforcement officer be it council or law can also.

Having said that there are a number of sites that will give out specific details without qualms. My rule of thumb for what its worth is that if they advertise candidly then they are inviting clear and detailed reviews.

If on the other hand their advertising is discreet then it is incumbent on me to do the same.

P.S. Pedro you inbox is full. I can't PM you but thanks for the reply.

[QUOTE=PedrosNeeds;1996253]Interesting to note that some members here pass judgment and comment on posts and establishments that have only a handful of posts, presumably meaning they haven't been on her long?

In line with my previous post don't cast aspersions and make matter of fact statements can I suggest, this site has been pretty good of late but at times in the past has been ruined by this sort of thing, to the point I never even boterhs at one point.

If people praise a joint that's there impression, each to their own, conceding also that some punters appear to get to closely involved with ML, not unique I KNOW!

Enjoy.

Pedro.[/QUOTE]You probably are talking about me Pedro. I saw fit to comment about the quality of another person (possibly using multiple accounts?) posts not to be negative on the poster but because it is hard enough finding a decent joint nowadays without hidden agenda's coming into play. I have wasted so much money on dodgey working girls in the past. Trying to pass on some experience to newbies. Not so much the MP scene more from sites like BackPage and Locanto. My suspicion is that this particular poster in q may in fact not even be a happy punter obsessed with the ML. It could be the Owner or ML themselves. So why give them business.

P.S. Whilst I only have a few posts under the belt, I have been lurking around here for years. I actually had another name ages ago but I lost my username details so not a newbie as such. In fact you would have been my first PM back then. I know your favorite ML is Asian with big tits so I was helping you with one I thought you would like.

[QUOTE=Stykler;1995998] We have a first world police force here (despite what we think sometimes) that know about places well before you and I discover them. If you know where a certain place is, they do as well. Don't let paranoia rule over commonsense.[/QUOTE]Styk, while I have no doubt at all about LE knowing about the presence of, and activities undertaken in establishments frequently reviewed on this and other similar fora, they are definitely interested in collecting data for prosecutions. I have first hand knowledge of a WL who was arrested, charged, brought before a magistrate who found the case proven (but no conviction recorded) and issued a fine. The evidence gathered and presented by the prosecution came from a raft of sources.

When these cases go to court the defence lawyers have access to all of the evidence to be led at the trial. This included complaints from neighbours and other interested parties, newspaper and on-line ads (including when they first appeared and time they ran for), forum reviews, observer reports of punter arrivals, departures, durations and statements of what they had to say when LE chatted to them. The statements were interesting. Several punters were prepared to admit to having received FS yet LE conceded it found no evidence of this taking place and they were not prepared to push it. A possible explanation for this was the offer from LE to let the punters make their statements on the spot or during follow up interviews at their homes. Not too difficult to understand that some took the path of least resistance and simply rolled over and agreed to whatever was suggested to them.

So back to the nub of what I think Pedro and others are on about in the detail they are prepared to openly offer in the forum versus what they may or may not say in response to PM requests, I agree with Pedro's approach.

Pedros / Golfer. Guys I'm not trying to convince you one way or the other of anything. All I am doing is posting what I know as FACT, not what I "think" as a result of any personal paranoia people may have. I'm prepared to leave it here as this type of discussion usually runs it's race pretty quickly.

As Lennon once wrote, Let It Be.

[QUOTE=SteveUp;1996310]You probably are talking about me Pedro. I saw fit to comment about the quality of another person (possibly using multiple accounts?) posts not to be negative on the poster but because it is hard enough finding a decent joint nowadays without hidden agenda's coming into play. I have wasted so much money on dodgey working girls in the past. Trying to pass on some experience to newbies. Not so much the MP scene more from sites like BackPage and Locanto. My suspicion is that this particular poster in q may in fact not even be a happy punter obsessed with the ML. It could be the Owner or ML themselves. So why give them business.

P.S. Whilst I only have a few posts under the belt, I have been lurking around here for years. I actually had another name ages ago but I lost my username details so not a newbie as such. In fact you would have been my first PM back then. I know your favorite ML is Asian with big tits so I was helping you with one I thought you would like.[/QUOTE]You couldn't be more wrong if you tried. I am just a normal weekly punter like 99.99% of others on here.

The fact I have found a nice Massage Lady at a local business makes you suspicious of me just because there are 2 people who think the same?

How about you book at the same shop and check for yourself?

If I find a working lady that I enjoy my time with the 1st booking, I book again. Pretty simple I would of thought. You are over thinking.

We are 2 different people.

I will continue to book the same working lady I enjoy spending my time with because we are friends. I will continue to post about the same WL that I book because she delivers the same quality of awesome sessions.

Please for your own sake, don't over think things.

I started off when I got to Melbourne trying Boardroom, but got myself kicked out of there after I basically rejected the first 6 girls too quickly for the liking of the establishment (why waste time on small talk if your not going to consummate a deal. Don't get it).

When I got to Gotham afterwards (as it is around the corner) I walked in at 9:30 pm to a completely empty place. I figured this was going to be a bust, but sat down, decided I needed to be on better behavior and met each of the girls.

If I had been into Tall, MILF types there was definitely an Italian lady who I would have fancied (though her augmented tits were a bit too big for my liking), but in the end, feeling the weight of decision time upon me, and a rather aggressive Mamasan at my side, I decided to opt for the first girl that greeted me, Bianca. Basically it came down to the fact that she wasn't too tall, about 1. 62 cm without shoes, had a great smile, and a good (not awesome body). She offered up her age at 24 to start with, but I later learned she was nearer to 30, and had a child too.

As the place was pretty empty, I was given access to the VIP room after agreeing to do "full service" for A $450– I wasn't expecting it to be that much having read on the website that the rate was A $325, but basically I was told that if I wanted 90 minutes with multiple pops and all the works, that was the rate.

So Bianca and I go into this huge room, which has two different huge beds in it (but different styles), a shower room and a large open area.

First thing about Australia is that in a brothel the customer has a check by the girls, and it is more than just a cursory examination. Anyway, off came the clothes for this purpose, and was given the all clear.

Next thing keeping in the spirit of hygiene we went over to the shower for a mutual wash. I quickly saw that Bianca wasn't in my "ideal shape" but she was fully shaved, had a nice boob job, and not too much weight around the middle, a bit of cellulite but nothing gross.

In the shower we did some touching, kissing (good kisser) and got a tad frisky, a little bit of teasing on her part but all perfectly safe. We then dried each other off, and kept kissing. As things started to get interesting, Bianca let me know that in Australia, all brothels can only perform oral with a cover. She did say that if I paid her extra she would forego. Initially, she offered me an extra A $200 for going deep throat, which I said was too much (having just been in Thailand, and she was half Thai remember – way too much!) and then we settled on A $90, which was still high, but anyway.

We went back to kissing, touching, and I sort of forgot about things, and since we had plenty of time went down on her first. Everything was in working order. She had responsive breasts, with perky nipples, and her pussy was tasty. I took my time, trying various things (that work with others on her) and eventually used some fingers with tonguing to get her toward the peek. In Australia, some girls don't do this, and I think Bianca was probably choosy but nevertheless she let me. As I got her close, she asked that I put on a condom and let her get on top.

I obliged and then for the next 5 minutes or so she grinded her pussy and clit against my cock. It wasn't extremely pleasant for me if I'm honest as she was pretty aggressive, but she actually came hard (a bit too my surprise). She seemed happy by the result, and then took off the condom gave me a clean and started to give me a blow job. This turned into a 69 and when I was returned to my hardened state back to fucking again. We started at the end of the bed with her butt at the very edge and my cock inside her. I held out her legs (as she wasn't too heavy), lifted her butt and slid my shaft into her over and over. The action got us both close, but didn't fulfil my need and thus she turned over and switched to Doggie. We tried a couple of different positions and eventually she was lying down and I was on top of her supporting my own weight and sliding my cock inside of her. Again I got close but didn't cum, as the condom they had were tight.

I told Bianca that we needed to go back to oral so we took a quick shower, and with 15 minutes or so to go, she started on a proper blowjob. She used a combination of hand and mouth and eventually with a little bit of effort, got me to climax.

In general, it was OK, but probably wouldn't repeat, probably because the Asian girls in similar places are about 1/3rd cheaper, and at that price one can get some high quality independent girls, of which there are many in Australia.

[QUOTE=SteveUp;1995938]Glad its not just me who thinks its a bit sus. So "RnT King", "Friend Client", "DavoDominator", can't work out if MP owner, Bella herself or a crazed stalker?

Tell you what though whoever owns that condom on the 2nd pic in the ad is a lucky bugger.

[URL]http://melbourne.locanto.com.au/ID_1136167154/Bella-Australian-fit-friendly-and-experienced-therapist.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Hi Stephen,

What is with your obsession here?

You mean more than 1 person can't like a the same massage shop? If that was the case, there wouldn't be many Massage shops around these days. Stop over thinking.

Just enjoy punting.

[QUOTE=RyeHumor63;1997078]I started off when I got to Melbourne trying Boardroom, but got myself kicked out of there after I basically rejected the first 6 girls too quickly for the liking of the establishment (why waste time on small talk if your not going to consummate a deal. Don't get it).

When I got to Gotham afterwards (as it is around the corner) I walked in at 9:30 pm to a completely empty place. I figured this was going to be a bust, but sat down, decided I needed to be on better behavior and met each of the girls.

If I had been into Tall, MILF types there was definitely an Italian lady who I would have fancied (though her augmented tits were a bit too big for my liking), but in the end, feeling the weight of decision time upon me, and a rather aggressive Mamasan at my side, I decided to opt for the first girl that greeted me, Bianca. Basically it came down to the fact that she wasn't too tall, about 1. 62 cm without shoes, had a great smile, and a good (not awesome body). She offered up her age at 24 to start with, but I later learned she was nearer to 30, and had a child too.

As the place was pretty empty, I was given access to the VIP room after agreeing to do "full service" for A $450 I wasn't expecting it to be that much having read on the website that the rate was A $325, but basically I was told that if I wanted 90 minutes with multiple pops and all the works, that was the rate.

So Bianca and I go into this huge room, which has two different huge beds in it (but different styles), a shower room and a large open area..[/QUOTE]Mate,

Why did you bother going here. You should've gone to Westside X, or The main Course, which for a lot less $$ you could've gotten a lot better experience, if not longer. FARK ME, $450 would've gotten you almost 2 hrs at TMC.

Welcome to Australia.

[QUOTE=DanTheMan;1997209]Mate, why did you bother going here. You should've gone to Westside X, or The main Course, which for a lot less $$ you could've gotten a lot better experience, if not longer. FARK ME, $450 would've gotten you almost 2 hrs at TMC.

Welcome to Australia.[/QUOTE]Or go to Collingwood for Number 100, pay $50 for extras and it would still be 1/2 as cheap. $189 for 60 minutes + $50 extras = $239 for the whole 9 yards.

Person's Name: Grace.

Establishment: Rowville Choice.

Date of Visit: Saturday February 11th.

Contact Details / Address / Weblink: [URL]http://www.rc12.com.au/home.html[/URL].

Hours of Business: 10 am. To 4 am.

Rates: 30 minutes $80 for Relaxation.

Age: Said 23 (who knows though).

Size / shape: Tall and busty.

Nationality or Ethnicity: Chinese.

Services Provided: Sensual massage with happy ending.

Value for money / recommend? Not bad. Unsure if I'd recommend.

Experience. Ok time, wasn't the worst but wasn't near the best I've had either.

I won't go in to much detail here as it was an ok session. I was pretty horny and this shop is local to me. Uber'ed it out to the shop and it was reasonably busy, I saw a few lasses in introduction and picked out Grace, mainly because of her large bust and she is reasonably tall. Well 5 foot 6 or so.

Went up stairs, did the usual prior to the session officially starting. Massage was pretty good, ok conversations, her english was ok I guess. Reasonable when teasing. Nice rear end and very nice large breasts to play with and to suck. Gave her an extra $50 at the end.

Hand relief was a 5/10, nothing special. But I got over the line, mainly due to her nice breasts as I am a boob lover over the bum. Was only ever going to be a massage and hand relief as that was only what I was looking for. Didn't budget for this punt originally but I was slightly bored and decided to go out for a session locally. Got an Uber home also.

Overall was an ok passable session but would only use this shop if nothing else on offer and I was desperate. I don't think it has ever really got me very excited in the past. Might try to see in the future if anything else on offer locally elsewhere.

Went to an outlet in High Street Preston Sunday afternoon and was greeted by a cute Chinese girl. Chose the half hour massage for $50. What followed was a boring massage that was totally un-erotic. Turned over and was immediately offered a handy for $30 extra. I asked if she would go topless and she refused. I declined the "extra" service. Finished with a few more minutes of a massage and that was it. Oh well. You can't win them all.

[QUOTE=TakeCareYou;1997778]Went to an outlet in High Street Preston Sunday afternoon and was greeted by a cute Chinese girl. Chose the half hour massage for $50. What followed was a boring massage that was totally un-erotic. Turned over and was immediately offered a handy for $30 extra. I asked if she would go topless and she refused. I declined the "extra" service. Finished with a few more minutes of a massage and that was it. Oh well. You can't win them all.[/QUOTE]It does seem like the Asian ladies are upping their prices for extras these days. Long gone are the days they would do topless for as little as $20. Now it is more like 40-50 $.

Many westerner ladies / shops will do topless tug for $30 now.

[QUOTE=TakeCareYou;1997778]Went to an outlet in High Street Preston Sunday afternoon and was greeted by a cute Chinese girl. Chose the half hour massage for $50. What followed was a boring massage that was totally un-erotic. Turned over and was immediately offered a handy for $30 extra. I asked if she would go topless and she refused. I declined the "extra" service. Finished with a few more minutes of a massage and that was it. Oh well. You can't win them all.[/QUOTE]Which one in High St please? There are quite a few! There are some that do a nude handy for $70 all up with generous access. Negotiate first if you can. You did the right thing saying no.