SP Trip Report, Day 4, Part 1 - Moema clinicas.
Slept in again on Wednesday morning and had brunch at the hotel while deciding what I should do with my day. Despite my less-than-good experiences with clinicas, in light of prior discussions on this forum I decided to give them one last shot, but thought I'd try later in the afternoon, in case my earlier experiences were more of a time-of-day problem. So, I made another loop of the clinicas, hitting the 'most likely' clinicas: Red, Miruna, and Abbobora.
I left my hotel at around 2 pm and walked 20 minutes to get to Red Massagem. Same friendly lady at the front desk. There were about 10 girls there, but if anything the talent was even worse, now in the 2-5/10 range in looks. There were a couple of much older, not-so-fit women there wearing skimpy clothing, which is a sight I will never be able to unseen. Got out of there as quickly as possible.
Another 10-15 minute walk to Clinica Miruna. Again, same nice lady at reception. Maybe 7 girls in the 4-6/10 range, so maybe slightly better than before, but no one I would seriously consider. So again, that a wash.
Final stop was Abbobora Massagem, which is just 1-2 minutes away from Miruna. Found the side entrance. Again, same lady at the front desk, who wasn't so nice the last time but was nicer this time. The talent here, again, was clearly better than in the other places, with more girls (maybe 10 total) in the 5-8/10 range in looks. I was debating whether I should pull the trigger here or save my money and, more importantly, my energy for likely better things tonight. But I figured this would be my best chance to try out the clinica action, so I chose the best looking girl named Rebecca with fair skin, long wavy black hair, and a nice face.
Took her to the room for R260 for 60 minutes. In the room, she was a bit standoffish, not unpleasant but not really affectionate. Limited kissing, but did a good BBBJ and had sex in multiple positions. I finished before the 60 minute mark, but she didn't seem keen on hanging out, so I just took a shower and left. So this was my one session in a clinica, and it was not so good.
So, through my experiences the past few days, I learned that the clinicas are not for me. They are certainly cheaper, and I can see how they can be great value if you visit often and know the girls, so you know where and when to go to find what you want. However, I am just showing up at these places when they are supposed to be busiest and hoping that I get lucky. Which I have not been -- the girl quality has just not been there for me, and even when the girls' appearance met my standard, the service did not. There are obviously lots of reasons why this may be, and there are also some things one could theoretically do to mitigate these factors; however, I am not going to wax philosophical here, I just make observations and present my opinions. For me this is about quality, not quantity. So I decided that for the remainder of my trip I would focus my efforts on the nightclubs.
SP Trip Report, Day 4, Part 2 - Bomboa.
For Wednesday night, I was debating whether to go back to Scandallo or to try Bomboa, Cafe Photo, or a place like Chanes or Bahamas. I decided to try Bomboa, because it sounded like Scandallo with more Brazilian flair and slightly less expensive girls, and I still had time to go back to Scandallo another night.
Bomboa has reduced entry (R150) before 5 pm but is R250 after that (both all consumable); they add an extra 10% for tips, so really it's R165 and R275. That is a longer interval between the reduced entry time and the peak time (presumably 11 pm-2 am) than Scandallo. And since I wanted to see this place at its peak but didn't want to spend 9 hours there, I decided to suck up the cost of the late entry. So, I took an Uber there at around 8:30 pm. As it turns out, I saw a lot of very pretty girls leaving when I arrived and shortly thereafter, maybe even better than the girls who came later. I don't know if that's a coincidence, but there might be something to that, and this club might be worth checking out earlier in the day. Knowing what I know now, I probably would have come earlier (in the late afternoon) for the reduced entry.
I walked in, and they found an English-speaking waiter to give me an introduction to the place. That guy turned out to be very helpful -- apart from familiarizing me with the club, he also gave me pointers and helped me communicate with the girls. As has been noted in earlier reports, this place is really nice, but in a different way from Scandallo; it's the wood, marble, and red velvet to Scandallo's steel and glass. But it is starting to show some wear around the edges. You might compare these places to old Vegas and new Vegas in terms of feel. Bomboa, though, is much, much smaller, with pretty much all of the mixing taking place in a single room. It has a great live band (in my opinion better than the one at Scandallo). Girls occasionally dance at the stripper poles (maybe a couple of girls per hour), although some just stripped down to their underwear. Food prices and quality are similar to Scandallo, and my grilled salmon was tasty and was enough food for me. Also, Bomboa uses an antiquated system to track food / drink; you are given a numbered wristband when you arrive, and the waiters literally write your orders on a paper slip, which you sign, and these slips are tabulated using something resembling a calculator from the 1970's.
In terms of girls, there were many fewer than Scandallo (maybe 80-100, so less than half the number). Overall, girls were maybe a half-notch below Scandallo, with most in the 6-8/10 range and maybe 2-3 girls I would put in the 9-10/10 range. There were only a few I would rate at 5/10 or below. There were proportionally more black girls than at Scandallo (maybe 5-6). I didn't see any Asian girls or redheads. Most of the girls I spoke with quoted prices of R400-R600 per hour with different services included. Because there are so many fewer girls than at Scandallo, and most are in one room, it was much easier to get a handle on the place.
I had my eye on a few candidates, but in the end I took the recommendation of the waiter and chose a girl named Bruna, who was very pretty with long wavy blond hair. We agreed on R400 for one hour of 'standard' service including BBBJ but no anal. Unlike in Scandallo, the 'onsite' rooms are not actually part of the club, they are in the hotel next door. So in order to take a girl to the room, you have to checkout of the club, settle up, and then you can leave. If you want to return, they give you a receipt, which you can then present for re-entry, including the amount of consumables you have remaining on your 'tab. ' The hotel next door costs R180 for the hour; it's okay but is not as nice as Scandallo. In the room, Bruna did what she promised, although she was maybe more PSE vs GFE than I would have liked. She did let me take some photos at the end and was really nice about that. I paid her in cash in the room, and we headed back to the club.
I stayed for a little while longer to check out the new girls coming in and to use more of my consumables. At around 2 am, I went to check out. I consumed less than the R250 entry, so I didn't owe any extra for consumables. In total, I spent R275 entry / consumables + R180 room + R400 girl = R855. Then I took Uber back to my hotel.
Overall, I liked Bomboa. If I had to choose between Bomboa and Scandallo, I would choose Scandallo just because it's such an amazing experience with the sheer number of pretty girls. But, assuming that what I saw was representative, I would guess that most men should also be able to find something of interest in Bomboa. The atmosphere is more relaxed, the girls circulate more, and it's just an easier place to keep track of than Scandallo. If the girls I saw leaving early were indicative of the day shift, then this could be a good play for the afternoon into the evening, with the lower entry fee and relatively lower girl prices (compared to Scandallo) for those who, like me, have difficulty finding anything of interest in the clinicas.
SP Trip Report. Day 5 - Scandallo.
On Thursday, I decided to explore Sao Paulo a bit as a tourist, so after breakfast I went walking around the city center, Av Paulista, and Villa Madalena areas of the city and visited a couple of museums. After an afternoon nap, I was ready to return to Scandallo to finish off my trip.
Like last time, I took Uber to Scandallo aiming to get there just before 7 pm. But even though I left a little earlier than last time, I arrived a few minutes later than planned (literally at 7:02), and they refused to give me the discount, so I had to pay the full R250 entry (still R150 consumable). Major bummer. Learn from my mistake: you have to respect the rush hour traffic, so leave yourself even more extra time than you think you'l need. Like last time, the club was relative quiet at that hour, so I had some dinner (a good Caesar salad) and watch some of the soccer game. I walked around a bit and saw some familiar faces, saying Hello, to some girls I had met the other night, and scoping out some new prospects. A lot of girls were wearing the same outfits as last time, which I suppose is good for helping to remember them but is maybe not so good for hygiene reasons.
Anyway, by the time the lounge area opened at around 10 pm, the number of girls and men increased significantly, and things definitely picked up. Having been here before, I had a pretty good sense of what would be on offer, and I calibrated my expectations accordingly. After walking around a bit, I saw the prettiest (or one of the prettiest) girls I had seen in that club, a definite 10/10 to me, slim with long straight blond hair named Gabi. I approached her, and we spoke a bit, before I started asking her about her 'program' in the room. She initially quoted me a price of R800, which I countered with R600. She countered back, but I held firm, and she looked annoyed, so I thanked her for her time and walked away. The thing about Scandallo is that there is always another pretty girl around the corner, so you'll never want for choice. I left the lounge and went to the other area, where I saw another familiar face and chatted with her for a bit. When I came back to the lounge, Gabi nearly pounced on me, saying she had been looking for me (she probably had been scanning the lounge, since I wasn't there) and let's go to the room for R600. So, we went to the room. As you might expect for such a hot girl, the service was good but not fantastic, but she was so hot that I really enjoyed myself, and I certainly have some great memories.
We came back downstairs, and I got another drink and looked around the lounge area. More new pretty faces, including some 10/10's I would have been interested in taking to the room, if I had more time and energy. But since I needed to leave the next day, I decided to head out relatively early at around midnight. Total cost was R250 entry / consumables + R200 room + R600 girl = R1050. I took Uber back to my hotel.
Intoxicating and Pen Pals
[QUOTE=DiverOyster;2326996]Steve, "intoxicating" is the appropriate term to describe the feeling that from time to time I also develop toward some Romanian FKK girls I have been with. I even fantasize about proposing to them, LOL! From time to time, it's wonderful to meet some beautiful and charming girls who are able to warm your heart. I chat with them via WhatsApp to keep me excited until my next trans-Atltantic trip to FKK wonderland.[/QUOTE]Yes some girls just have that "it" thing about them and I get like a little puppy. I believe you read the whole Thifany saga, so you can see why I am smitten.
Speaking of Thifany — anyone know Brazilian culture? Is it common to get engaged and married very quickly? Recall 2 weeks ago Thifany got engaged (and then told me she still wants to see me!) but now as I look at her Instagram it sure looks like they are getting married today or tomorrow. I am super happy for her. Is this common in Brazil to marry so quickly after popping the question?
On the WhatsApp thing I too really enjoy "staying in touch". I pen palled with Rika for about a year before she ghosted me. Thifany and I were almost daily for a very long time. And I stay in touch with one of my London's Ro-girls. It's just nice to see how they are doing and have a little fun / flirty long distance girlfriend.
