Has anybody stayed here before?
Does it have a "reputation"?
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Has anybody stayed here before?
Does it have a "reputation"?
[QUOTE=Ath Trainer; 1210375]Advantages of wearing expensive jewelry on a mongering trip.
Disadvantages of wearing expensive jewelry on a mongering trip:
The girls will think you are loaded and ask hire prices, ask you to buy them things, order higher priced drinks, etc.
You can get mugged for it.
You can have a chica steal it.
You can loose it.
Disadvantages outnumber the advantages. Risk is not equal to the reward.[/QUOTE]Chalk me in in the "Risk" outweighing the "Reward" column.
I have just spent 27 days based in Sosua, came back 2 weeks ago, with a 9 day break during that time visiting Santo Domingo and Santiago, so I think I am quite well qualified to offer my views about the place.
Nightspots.
From my perspective, the best quality ladies are to be found in the Merengue bar and in Classico's, though the quality and quantity is definitely not what it was when I was there in February this year. The best nights tend to be Thursday, Friday, and surprisingly Sunday and even Monday can be very lively. Saturday night in Classico's in particular is not much fun, as it is too overcrowded and not ideal for mongering at all. Latido's should also be checked out, since although the quality of the chicks is lower, every now and again you will spot a beauty. It all depends on personal taste anyway, and sometimes girls are stuck there, as they are scared of getting arrested making the walk to Classico's! Latino's bar, on the opposite side, can be a good place to hang out, and watch the world, or more importantly, the girls go by. It can get busy here even in the late afternoon, long before the Merengue bar or Classico's have got going. Many of the same girls who visit those bars come here on their way back from the beach with their friends, or are looking for some earlier daytime clients. To be honest, seeing the same girls in all the bars, over several weeks, tends to put a downer on their appeal to you, as they lose the air of sexiness if you see them endlessly. If you are feeling more adventurous, you may also find a few sexy ladies in El Flow, as long as you can handle the busy atmosphere and the loud music. I would also agree with what Charles Pooter wrote, that the few girls hanging around in the New Garden Hotel by the bar are barely worth even looking at or mentioning. I know as I have walked by the place at least 50 times during my stay there!
The ladies.
If anybody thinks they are going to come across endless gorgeous chicks in Sosua if they visit at the moment they are sadly mistaken. The quality has gone down compared to when I was there in February. There are a few gorgeous chicks, but the average chick there is not particularly good looking, or physically outstanding. I didn't meet too many with impressive racks either, something I am into. A decent pair of tits in this town (and in this country too?) are only usually found on chubby or fat girls. It should also be remembered that these girls are amateurs, and many behave like amateurs in bed as well. They are not regular girls, but they are not hard core hookers either, they exist in their own world in between, in a uniquely Dominican way. On the whole you will be paying an average girl, on the off chance that you will have great sex with her. It is completely hit or miss! Some will be hot as hell, and others completely disinterested. I had a few great experiences, with for example a big titted mulatta I picked up at the Merengue bar, and from a very busty daytime barmaid in a bar down the far end of Pedro Clisante, but other girls I picked up from Classico's and Latido's were disappointing, more by their attitude and effort than their physical appearance.
In Classico's, there are some hardcore girls who are there virtually every night (not the best looking ones, it has to be said) , there are girls who come more on the weekends looking for some extra money from punters, there are groups of girlfriends who come mainly on the weekend and seem to just continually walk around the club in circles not looking for customers, and some girls who come frequently and wander around Classico's, but never leave with punters. These last group are the most annoying and confusing girls! Let me give you an example. One girl who came in who I thought was very nice looking, I tried talking to her, saying I had not seen her there before (Yes I know, how original!) , to which she replied that she hardly ever came there because she did not like the men there or to have sex with them (?). Well, excuse me but how appealing is a comment like that? Why on earth would I be interested in her after she said that? For the next 2 weeks I saw her there virtually every night, walking around virtually ignoring the men, and I never saw her leave once with a punter! So she, or somebody, pays 200 pesos every night for her to get in to the place, but for what, why does she go there? She certainly doesn't seem to be enjoying herself there either. There were several other girls behaving similarly to her there too, really annoying!
When you spend longer in the place you also see that people are not happy there, life is tough. You see this on the faces and in the behaviour of the working girls too. Personally I am not interested in having sex with a girl when it is so obvious that she is only doing it because she is desperate for money. Maybe she is, but I don't want to be reminded of it at every turn. I want to see a bit of enthusiasm. If I am paying for it, I want to see a smiling face and have a good time.
Places to eat.
I was not particularly adventurous eating out during my stay. Personally I find Baileys to be a cut above all the other places to eat in Sosua. It has great food, reasonable prices, it is spacious and has a nice atmosphere, the staff are friendly and it has an excellent wi-fi connection, pretty unbeatable really. That's why it is virtually never empty! Morua Mai has good food, however is much pricier than Baileys and the place is usually empty. The owner and his family eat there virtually every night though, so either they are eating the profits or they have so much money in bank that they don't care! Eating there can also be embarrassing if you are alone and the place is empty, as you feel like the whole staff are watching you! If the place had more patrons it would score higher, as the food is good. It also has a very good internet connection. The restaurant in the Terra Linda resort looks great, but that's about it! The menu to begin with is written in a really stupid 'English for morons' style, ie Chicken 'and' fries, god I hate that menu! On top of that their food is poor, too many fried things, and too simple. Their coffee is also not great, even the coffee at the Merengue bar is much better. For good coffee I would recommend Baileys. I ate lunch and had a few snacks at the other bars along Pedro Clisante (along the side of Jolly Rogers and the Britannia bar). However what I do not like about these is that they are virtually on the street, so you get people hassling you and cars and motorbikes polluting you. I went into Rocky's once to eat, but the internet was out due to a storm, so I went elsewhere instead. Their menu is very simple, but I cannot comment if their food is good or not.
Motoconcho's and other hassles.
As far as I am concerned, the only real problem in Sosua are the motoconcho's and other people hassling you in the street to buy something or other from them, these are the only people who would affect me coming back or not, the girls never bother you, or if they do, they are much more subtle about it. Having these guys shout at you every day for a month just becomes really tiring, they are a constant thorn in your ear. I have tried everything from ignoring them, telling them my name is not 'Hey', however that invites the next question 'So what is your name then? '. I have replied to them crying out 'Moto! ' at you, with 'Yes, it is a Moto' or 'Yes, you have a moto, congratulations! ', or 'You see me here every day, and I never ever go on a motoconcho, so why do you keep asking me? ' To which the guy then tried to sell me the crap Dominican version of Viagra! I think the motoconcho's should really just be banned as they are basically just parasites. All you guys who use them in the immediate area of Sosua are just totally lazy! Walk, get fit, go to the gym, stop encouraging and perpetuating these annoying guys. If they did not get any more clients, they would slowly leave and find something else to do! I did notice though that when I left the Sosua bay beach club and took off their wristband, they finally started hassling me less for my last week there.
Anyway, flying around on the back of some stupid moped with no protection is inherently dangerous, even though others may say that they never crash. I suppose if you are there long enough, you will see a crash, as I did on my last night there. I was crossing the street in front of the Merengue bar when a motoconcho with a girl on the back crashed right into a pedestrian tourist crossing the street. It sounded pretty nasty, and they all ended up in a heap on the ground in the middle of the street. A small crowd gathered, and luckily nobody was badly injured, but if you had been there after the fascination had worn off and everybody had walked away, nobody would have cared less if somebody had been badly injured. What makes it worse is that these motoconcho's do not respect that the main drag in Sosua (Pedro Clisante) is meant to be a one way street, and fly past you the other way too when you're crossing the street.
Sosua in general.
To be honest, despite the great weather, I would put forward the argument that Sosua is actually a pretty depressing place to walk around during the day, at this time of the year anyway. Depressed, pretty desperate people, junk lying everywhere on the street and never cleaned up (just look at the state of the small street leading to the beach, what a dump!) , and people hassling you everywhere. If you want to see their true nature, see how they talk to each other. For example they hardly say please or thank you to each other in the shops or restaurants, or treat each other with any obvious empathy or consideration. They are also constantly arguing with each other and don't seem to be able to have a quiet discussion about anything, which can also get tiring. If you want to know what the Dominicans really think of the tourists, go to a hotel such as the Sosua Bay beach club on the weekend, when Dominicans get their special deals there. When they have money, when they are enjoying their weekend with their families and friends, they will barely even acknowledge the foreigners there, let alone want to know them!
The longer I spent in Sosua and the Dominican Republic in general, the more glimpses I had of the inherent dangers that are just under the surface there, which you would not notice if you were there for a shorter time, or staying in an all inclusive resort for example. It also felt very different, and more potentially less safe than when I was there in February. The doorman / security guard taking a huge handgun off somebody trying to enter Classico's and handing it across to his colleague, right in front of me; the taxi driver, who pulled his revolver from under his seat just to show it to me, when we were talking about crime and guns there; the Metro bus I was in going from Sosua to Puerto Plata clipping and nearly killing a guy on a moped, who had a very close call; not to mention the motoconcho I already spoke about crashing in the street in front of Classico's. Walking back from Classico's to the Sosua Bay hotel one night at about 2 am without a care in the world, I was first verbally chatted up by this middle aged junkie woman standing on the pavement, and even though I totaly ignored her, before I knew it she was onto me, her hands were in my pockets and I had to physically throw her off me and shout some pretty strong words to get rid of her! At first I thought she was desperate for clients, but then thinking about it afterwards she was obviously probably after my money. It all happened in a few seconds, but safe to say, after that I walked back at night in the middle of the street as I felt safer there than on the pavement, scanning my eyes left and right constantly. A couple of days later though the junkies had gone, maybe the police moved them on somewhere.
Another point I would make is that the longer you stay there, the more you get to know people, and the more they get to know you too. Obviously, it is nice to talk and be friendly, but the more you reveal about yourself, the more you may be may be setting yourself up to be taken advantage of, robbed etc. So as a general rule of thumb, I would say it is best not to reveal too many personal details, or talk about your job, wealth, plans etc, just common sense really.
I will return to Sosua, but I am in no rush. Next time I will go back for a week or 10 days, because nearly a month there is too long to stay in such a small place; it gets too repetitive and you see the same people and chicks all the time. I will also go back in high season when the place is more alive and the locals are less desperate, such as January or February, which also has the added bonus that the weather is cooler and more pleasant. Even at Puerto Plata airport when I left, there was a young guy wandering around the tourists trying to help them fill in their customs leaving forms. Obviously he wanted payment for this. I mean really, even when you are trying to leave the country you couldn't get a break from the hustlers!
[QUOTE=Coupe66;1211104]I have just spent 27 days based in Sosua, came back 2 weeks ago, with a 9 day break during that time visiting Santo Domingo and Santiago, so I think I am quite well qualified to offer my views about the place.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the post. As you aware, Sosua is one of the main puta towns in DR, boca chica being the other.
There are much nicer spots in DR. Rent a car or take gua guas or buses and tour the country, you can meet beautiful chicas and meet nice people.
[QUOTE=Coupe66; 1211104]I have just spent 27 days based in Sosua, came back 2 weeks ago, with a 9 day break during that time visiting Santo Domingo and Santiago, so I think I am quite well qualified to offer my views about the place.
Nightspots.
From my perspective, the best quality ladies are to be found in the Merengue bar and in Classico's, though the quality and quantity is definitely not what it was when I was there in February this year. The best nights tend to be Thursday, Friday, and surprisingly Sunday and even Monday can be very lively. Saturday night in Classico's in particular is not much fun, as it is too overcrowded and not ideal for mongering at all. Latido's should also be checked out, since although the quality of the chicks is lower, every now and again you will spot a beauty. It all depends on personal taste anyway, and sometimes girls are stuck there, as they are scared of getting arrested making the walk to Classico's! Latino's bar, on the opposite side, can be a good place to hang out, and watch the world, or more importantly, the girls go by. It can get busy here even in the late afternoon, long before the Merengue bar or Classico's have got going. Many of the same girls who visit those bars come here on their way back from the beach with their friends, or are looking for some earlier daytime clients. To be honest, seeing the same girls in all the bars, over several weeks, tends to put a downer on their appeal to you, as they lose the air of sexiness if you see them endlessly. If you are feeling more adventurous, you may also find a few sexy ladies in El Flow, as long as you can handle the busy atmosphere and the loud music. I would also agree with what Charles Pooter wrote, that the few girls hanging around in the New Garden Hotel by the bar are barely worth even looking at or mentioning. I know as I have walked by the place at least 50 times during my stay there!
The ladies.
If anybody thinks they are going to come across endless gorgeous chicks in Sosua if they visit at the moment they are sadly mistaken. The quality has gone down compared to when I was there in February. There are a few gorgeous chicks, but the average chick there is not particularly good looking, or physically outstanding. I didn't meet too many with impressive racks either, something I am into. A decent pair of tits in this town (and in this country too?) are only usually found on chubby or fat girls. It should also be remembered that these girls are amateurs, and many behave like amateurs in bed as well. They are not regular girls, but they are not hard core hookers either, they exist in their own world in between, in a uniquely Dominican way. On the whole you will be paying an average girl, on the off chance that you will have great sex with her. It is completely hit or miss! Some will be hot as hell, and others completely disinterested. I had a few great experiences, with for example a big titted mulatta I picked up at the Merengue bar, and from a very busty daytime barmaid in a bar down the far end of Pedro Clisante, but other girls I picked up from Classico's and Latido's were disappointing, more by their attitude and effort than their physical appearance.
In Classico's, there are some hardcore girls who are there virtually every night (not the best looking ones, it has to be said) , there are girls who come more on the weekends looking for some extra money from punters, there are groups of girlfriends who come mainly on the weekend and seem to just continually walk around the club in circles not looking for customers, and some girls who come frequently and wander around Classico's, but never leave with punters. These last group are the most annoying and confusing girls! Let me give you an example. One girl who came in who I thought was very nice looking, I tried talking to her, saying I had not seen her there before (Yes I know, how original!) , to which she replied that she hardly ever came there because she did not like the men there or to have sex with them (?). Well, excuse me but how appealing is a comment like that? Why on earth would I be interested in her after she said that? For the next 2 weeks I saw her there virtually every night, walking around virtually ignoring the men, and I never saw her leave once with a punter! So she, or somebody, pays 200 pesos every night for her to get in to the place, but for what, why does she go there? She certainly doesn't seem to be enjoying herself there either. There were several other girls behaving similarly to her there too, really annoying!
When you spend longer in the place you also see that people are not happy there, life is tough. You see this on the faces and in the behaviour of the working girls too. Personally I am not interested in having sex with a girl when it is so obvious that she is only doing it because she is desperate for money. Maybe she is, but I don't want to be reminded of it at every turn. I want to see a bit of enthusiasm. If I am paying for it, I want to see a smiling face and have a good time.
Places to eat.
I was not particularly adventurous eating out during my stay. Personally I find Baileys to be a cut above all the other places to eat in Sosua. It has great food, reasonable prices, it is spacious and has a nice atmosphere, the staff are friendly and it has an excellent wi-fi connection, pretty unbeatable really. That's why it is virtually never empty! Morua Mai has good food, however is much pricier than Baileys and the place is usually empty. The owner and his family eat there virtually every night though, so either they are eating the profits or they have so much money in bank that they don't care! Eating there can also be embarrassing if you are alone and the place is empty, as you feel like the whole staff are watching you! If the place had more patrons it would score higher, as the food is good. It also has a very good internet connection. The restaurant in the Terra Linda resort looks great, but that's about it! The menu to begin with is written in a really stupid 'English for morons' style, ie Chicken 'and' fries, god I hate that menu! On top of that their food is poor, too many fried things, and too simple. Their coffee is also not great, even the coffee at the Merengue bar is much better. For good coffee I would recommend Baileys. I ate lunch and had a few snacks at the other bars along Pedro Clisante (along the side of Jolly Rogers and the Britannia bar). However what I do not like about these is that they are virtually on the street, so you get people hassling you and cars and motorbikes polluting you. I went into Rocky's once to eat, but the internet was out due to a storm, so I went elsewhere instead. Their menu is very simple, but I cannot comment if their food is good or not.
Motoconcho's and other hassles.
As far as I am concerned, the only real problem in Sosua are the motoconcho's and other people hassling you in the street to buy something or other from them, these are the only people who would affect me coming back or not, the girls never bother you, or if they do, they are much more subtle about it. Having these guys shout at you every day for a month just becomes really tiring, they are a constant thorn in your ear. I have tried everything from ignoring them, telling them my name is not 'Hey', however that invites the next question 'So what is your name then? '. I have replied to them crying out 'Moto! ' at you, with 'Yes, it is a Moto' or 'Yes, you have a moto, congratulations! ', or 'You see me here every day, and I never ever go on a motoconcho, so why do you keep asking me? ' To which the guy then tried to sell me the crap Dominican version of Viagra! I think the motoconcho's should really just be banned as they are basically just parasites. All you guys who use them in the immediate area of Sosua are just totally lazy! Walk, get fit, go to the gym, stop encouraging and perpetuating these annoying guys. If they did not get any more clients, they would slowly leave and find something else to do! I did notice though that when I left the Sosua bay beach club and took off their wristband, they finally started hassling me less for my last week there.
Anyway, flying around on the back of some stupid moped with no protection is inherently dangerous, even though others may say that they never crash. I suppose if you are there long enough, you will see a crash, as I did on my last night there. I was crossing the street in front of the Merengue bar when a motoconcho with a girl on the back crashed right into a pedestrian tourist crossing the street. It sounded pretty nasty, and they all ended up in a heap on the ground in the middle of the street. A small crowd gathered, and luckily nobody was badly injured, but if you had been there after the fascination had worn off and everybody had walked away, nobody would have cared less if somebody had been badly injured. What makes it worse is that these motoconcho's do not respect that the main drag in Sosua (Pedro Clisante) is meant to be a one way street, and fly past you the other way too when you're crossing the street.
Sosua in general.
To be honest, despite the great weather, I would put forward the argument that Sosua is actually a pretty depressing place to walk around during the day, at this time of the year anyway. Depressed, pretty desperate people, junk lying everywhere on the street and never cleaned up (just look at the state of the small street leading to the beach, what a dump!) , and people hassling you everywhere. If you want to see their true nature, see how they talk to each other. For example they hardly say please or thank you to each other in the shops or restaurants, or treat each other with any obvious empathy or consideration. They are also constantly arguing with each other and don't seem to be able to have a quiet discussion about anything, which can also get tiring. If you want to know what the Dominicans really think of the tourists, go to a hotel such as the Sosua Bay beach club on the weekend, when Dominicans get their special deals there. When they have money, when they are enjoying their weekend with their families and friends, they will barely even acknowledge the foreigners there, let alone want to know them!
The longer I spent in Sosua and the Dominican Republic in general, the more glimpses I had of the inherent dangers that are just under the surface there, which you would not notice if you were there for a shorter time, or staying in an all inclusive resort for example. It also felt very different, and more potentially less safe than when I was there in February. The doorman / security guard taking a huge handgun off somebody trying to enter Classico's and handing it across to his colleague, right in front of me; the taxi driver, who pulled his revolver from under his seat just to show it to me, when we were talking about crime and guns there; the Metro bus I was in going from Sosua to Puerto Plata clipping and nearly killing a guy on a moped, who had a very close call; not to mention the motoconcho I already spoke about crashing in the street in front of Classico's. Walking back from Classico's to the Sosua Bay hotel one night at about 2 am without a care in the world, I was first verbally chatted up by this middle aged junkie woman standing on the pavement, and even though I totaly ignored her, before I knew it she was onto me, her hands were in my pockets and I had to physically throw her off me and shout some pretty strong words to get rid of her! At first I thought she was desperate for clients, but then thinking about it afterwards she was obviously probably after my money. It all happened in a few seconds, but safe to say, after that I walked back at night in the middle of the street as I felt safer there than on the pavement, scanning my eyes left and right constantly. A couple of days later though the junkies had gone, maybe the police moved them on somewhere.
Another point I would make is that the longer you stay there, the more you get to know people, and the more they get to know you too. Obviously, it is nice to talk and be friendly, but the more you reveal about yourself, the more you may be may be setting yourself up to be taken advantage of, robbed etc. So as a general rule of thumb, I would say it is best not to reveal too many personal details, or talk about your job, wealth, plans etc, just common sense really.
I will return to Sosua, but I am in no rush. Next time I will go back for a week or 10 days, because nearly a month there is too long to stay in such a small place; it gets too repetitive and you see the same people and chicks all the time. I will also go back in high season when the place is more alive and the locals are less desperate, such as January or February, which also has the added bonus that the weather is cooler and more pleasant. Even at Puerto Plata airport when I left, there was a young guy wandering around the tourists trying to help them fill in their customs leaving forms. Obviously he wanted payment for this. I mean really, even when you are trying to leave the country you couldn't get a break from the hustlers![/QUOTE]Hands down one of the best and most recent reports in a long time. 5 fucking stars, LOL! You cover everything here and thank you for coming back and writing such a detailed report. And you are right about them trying to hustle you all the way until you exit the country. One of the bag men at the airport tried to convince me that I was late for my flight and we rushed along to the AA check in counter. I only played along with his game because we bypassed everyone else who had to run their bags through the machine. Once we got to the check out counter I had the AA rep tell me aloud when my flight was departing, and the we both looked at the bag man like he was stupid. He then just shook my hand and walked off.
I have always found the best times to visit Sosua were between December (before Christmas) thru Late March. My May trip was kinda slow and the October trip that year was even slower and things didn't get started until well after 1am. Luckily I was lock-in with a chica the entire trip (something I will never do again in the future).
Thanks again!
[QUOTE=Coupe66; 1211104]I have just spent 27 days based in Sosua, came back 2 weeks ago, with a 9 day break during that time visiting Santo Domingo and Santiago, so I think I am quite well qualified to offer my views about the place.
Sosua in general.
To be honest, despite the great weather, I would put forward the argument that Sosua is actually a pretty depressing place to walk around during the day, at this time of the year anyway. Depressed, pretty desperate people, junk lying everywhere on the street and never cleaned up (just look at the state of the small street leading to the beach, what a dump!) , and people hassling you everywhere. If you want to see their true nature, see how they talk to each other. For example they hardly say please or thank you to each other in the shops or restaurants, or treat each other with any obvious empathy or consideration. They are also constantly arguing with each other and don't seem to be able to have a quiet discussion about anything, which can also get tiring. If you want to know what the Dominicans really think of the tourists, go to a hotel such as the Sosua Bay beach club on the weekend, when Dominicans get their special deals there. When they have money, when they are enjoying their weekend with their families and friends, they will barely even acknowledge the foreigners there, let alone want to know them!
The longer I spent in Sosua and the Dominican Republic in general, the more glimpses I had of the inherent dangers that are just under the surface there, which you would not notice if you were there for a shorter time, or staying in an all inclusive resort for example. It also felt very different, and more potentially less safe than when I was there in February. The doorman / security guard taking a huge handgun off somebody trying to enter Classico's and handing it across to his colleague, right in front of me; the taxi driver, who pulled his revolver from under his seat just to show it to me, when we were talking about crime and guns there; the Metro bus I was in going from Sosua to Puerto Plata clipping and nearly killing a guy on a moped, who had a very close call; not to mention the motoconcho I already spoke about crashing in the street in front of Classico's. Walking back from Classico's to the Sosua Bay hotel one night at about 2 am without a care in the world, I was first verbally chatted up by this middle aged junkie woman standing on the pavement, and even though I totaly ignored her, before I knew it she was onto me, her hands were in my pockets and I had to physically throw her off me and shout some pretty strong words to get rid of her! At first I thought she was desperate for clients, but then thinking about it afterwards she was obviously probably after my money. It all happened in a few seconds, but safe to say, after that I walked back at night in the middle of the street as I felt safer there than on the pavement, scanning my eyes left and right constantly. A couple of days later though the junkies had gone, maybe the police moved them on somewhere.
Another point I would make is that the longer you stay there, the more you get to know people, and the more they get to know you too. Obviously, it is nice to talk and be friendly, but the more you reveal about yourself, the more you may be may be setting yourself up to be taken advantage of, robbed etc. So as a general rule of thumb, I would say it is best not to reveal too many personal details, or talk about your job, wealth, plans etc, just common sense really.
I will return to Sosua, but I am in no rush. Next time I will go back for a week or 10 days, because nearly a month there is too long to stay in such a small place; it gets too repetitive and you see the same people and chicks all the time. I will also go back in high season when the place is more alive and the locals are less desperate, such as January or February, which also has the added bonus that the weather is cooler and more pleasant. Even at Puerto Plata airport when I left, there was a young guy wandering around the tourists trying to help them fill in their customs leaving forms. Obviously he wanted payment for this. I mean really, even when you are trying to leave the country you couldn't get a break from the hustlers![/QUOTE]Yes, this is a pretty good report. I was in Sosua for a couple of months this summer, and I would say most of what is said here is pretty accurate. Certainly one you get over the thrill of having as much sex as you want with as many partners as you want, you develop a different perspective.
I agree about the motoconchos. Pain in the butt. I used to ride them frequently, but now I never do. One thing I don't like is that they almost NEVER have change even for small bills, or claim that they don't.
I find the Haitian girls are usually better than the Dominicanas. Often more intelligent, better educated, and generally more likeable.
Great report bro. After 27 days, your observations are appreciated. Coming from someone who has experienced the before and after, I no longer feel like a loner when I say, 'Things are different now'.
[QUOTE=SavePros321;1211130]Luckily I was lock-in with a chica the entire trip (something I will never do again in the future).[/QUOTE]What happened man? Why won't you lock in with 1 chica again?
Hello gents,
For you non Spanish speaking individuals who want to learn basic Spanish and how to talk to chicas I've got something for you. First let me state that I have no finacial gaon in this. I talk to this girl every morning and figured she might help you. She speaks good English, is very pretty, and can give you a good perspective about Spanish and chicas. The price is about what you would spend for breakfast, but thats between you and her. She has skype and ovoos or something like that. I know what you guys are thinking (is she fucking?) Thats between you and her. If there are problems let me know because I am responsible. Pm me for more info.
P. S. This is one of my main girls so please respect her. But if you bang her its no prob, she is a buisiness women also, so don't think Gogo doesn't understand.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1211157]What happened man? Why won't you lock in with 1 chica again?[/QUOTE]I felt silly being in the pro capital of the DR telling other pros that I can't take them back to my room because there is already a chica in there (I had told her that I was only going to spend the entire trip with her). I even was about to sneak off and book a room at Rocky's trying to be sly one morning when she went to check on her hijo. Took me about an hour to think of the idea. By the time I came back from getting a day rate quote from Rocky's to going back to TL to get the money and a few condoms from the safe to stash in the "hideaway" she comes banging on the door like the muthafuckin police (probably hoping to had caught me with another chica in my room) just as I was about to walk out of it.
Basically I felt like a chump the entire trip. Had I been in SD or Santiago with only one chica it would have been a different story, but here I was being "harrassed" by sexy ass chicas strolling the block for most of the day and all I could tell them was "no puedo". And to add insult to injury, trying to redeem myself with a return trip the crackdowns began two months later!
[QUOTE=Coupe66; 1211104]I have just spent 27 days based in Sosua, came back 2 weeks ago, with a 9 day break during that time visiting Santo Domingo and Santiago, so I think I am quite well qualified to offer my views about the place.
Nightspots.
From my perspective, the best quality ladies are to be found in the Merengue bar and in Classico's, though the quality and quantity is definitely not what it was when I was there in February this year. The best nights tend to be Thursday, Friday, and surprisingly Sunday and even Monday can be very lively. Saturday night in Classico's in particular is not much fun, as it is...[/QUOTE]Good report. You're lucky to have been in the DR for so long. Personally, I would have been all over the island. So-sewer gets old for me after 4 days. The food at the German spot next to Clasicos isn't bad either and they don't charge tax like Baileys. Rockys has pretty good breakfast. I also like Susana's and a couple of spots on the beach for fresh fish. Cabarete used to have better options as well, but it seems like they fell off.
I agree 100% about the motos. I think it was recently announced that Sosua will be closing the strip to vehicular traffic in the near future, kinda like Times Square. This is a result of similar complaints like yours. You were right on point as well about not telling people too much about yourself or your plans. People might be surprised at how much of a Soap Opera Sosua is and how much people gossip about other people.
I also agree with your take on the women. Most of my trips to Sosua are solo now because its hard to get my friends to go back after visiting other countries, they have moved on. I've had 2 plane tickets to POP that I canceled this year after visiting other countries and wanting to return to them instead.
In general, as you pointed out, Sosua has too many hustlers and beggers. Even the beach is less appealing to me now because there are 200 times more beach chairs on the beach than people. I remember when the beach didn't have so many beach chairs damn near in the water, but everyone is trying to hustle.
I'll be spending about 3 more weeks in the DR this year of which about 6 days will be in Sosua. I like the Beach area, but Sosua is a place you can graduate from quickly. The DR is a beautiful country and there are women all over, but Sosua is a good lazy option in moderation.
[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1210986]Protected and untouchable are almost synonyms.[/QUOTE]Jao are you trying to get me hit in Sosua? I don't know squat about the owner of Classicos, except that he is a Sosua buisiness man that has clout. I don't care about allegations involving murder and crime families. And I sure don't know anything about his involvment with corrupt cops.
If you have problems with the Policia or the fact that the owner of Classicos didn't talk to, thats your problem. Please don't try to make my visits to the DR more dangerous for me. I repeat'Gogo don't know squat'.
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1211224]The food at the German spot next to Clasicos isn't bad either and they don't charge tax like Baileys.[/QUOTE]They have to charge 16. 5 ITBIS tax by law, but what you mean is they include it in the prices shown instead of adding it on afterwards. Something for newbies to watch out for. Of the restaurants I use in Pto Pta and Sosúa I would say more than half add on the taxes to the price shown on the menu. 16. 5% for ITBIS and another 10% for service can push a reasonably-priced meal into the "somewhat expensive" bracket.
[QUOTE=Frannie;1211141]I find the Haitian girls are usually better than the Dominicanas. Often more intelligent, better educated, and generally more likeable.[/QUOTE]You know you got my vote with that one. Add "harder working" and "more honest" to that list too, not that comparing with Dominicans is setting the bar very high on those two criteria. Obviously once a haitiana has been in Sosúa a few months she sinks to the level of the locals so either find them in other towns or look for wet and sandy ankles to show they just waded across the border.
[QUOTE=Frannie;1211141]I agree about the motoconchos. Pain in the butt. I used to ride them frequently, but now I never do. One thing I don't like is that they almost NEVER have change even for small bills, or claim that they don't.[/QUOTE]Rarely a problem here in Pto Pta plus they only charge about half as much to start with. I can understand people not riding motos as they are dangerous, but not having change is a funny reason for a guy who spends so much time in the DR. When I go out I always carry change. It is not hard to acquire. The banks are full of it.
Good post, Coupe66, and I agree with your general observations. Dominicans were at the back of the queue when the Lord handed out brains, self-respect and consideration for others, but as Jaosousa says, things do get a lot better outside Sosúa, which is the asshole of the whole nation.
[QUOTE=Coupe66;1211104]Anyway, flying around on the back of some stupid moped with no protection is inherently dangerous, even though others may say that they never crash.[/QUOTE]LOL, I would like to meet someone who says that. They would have to be deaf, blind and very stupid. I have never heard anyone suggest that and, frankly, I would be amazed if you had.
I use them all the time in Puerto Plata which is much more spread out than Sosúa. It is just too inconvenient and expensive for me to use taxis but I am always aware how dangerous the motos are and I have had one very lucky escape already. I now minimise the danger by using a couple of mature guys who drive slowly and carefully because they know they will lose my (very useful to them) regular business if they don't, but however well they drive and maintain their bikes you cannot legislate for the other idiots.
But in El Batey I agree everything is walking distance unless you are physically handicapped so I support your plea to boycott the motos.