German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[QUOTE=Bitumen;2164609]Well done. Anal done too much weakens the anal muscles so it becomes less tight over time.

As said anal is enjoyable for the man since it is tighter, warmer and more humiliating for the woman getting her asshole plundered by a pirate.

The girl is usually screaming, moaning deep and grabbing the pillow or the bed sheets or have her head buried in a pillow to muffle her cries.

Anal sex is more memorable. Also you don't make babies so it is all about pleasure for the man.[/QUOTE]Thank you, well said about good anal! The screaming, moaning and pillow grabbing instantly brings back my memories about Aisha, the librarian-looking girl with glasses from Living Room in summer 2016. A lifetime experience.

The general prevalence of [B]HIV [/B]in Germany is about [B]0. 15%.[/B] Assume a WG gets 1200 room sessions annually, and if she is reluctant to or rarely offers BBFS (1%) then the probability for the girl to gets [B]HIV infection [/B]in one year would be less than:

[B]1 - (0.9985) **12 = 1.79%.[/B]

If she constantly offers BBFS (10%) in order to charge more money (100-300 E), then the chance for HIV infection in one year would be great than:

1 - (0.9985) **120 = [B]16.48%.[/B].

In two years the probability of HIV infection would be [B]30.25%[/B] if using this formula.

So I always avoid girls whom are some kind of regular BBFS providers.

[QUOTE=Bitumen;2164359]I am sorry UncleOx that if you apply your strict principle to your FKK counterparts that your short list of choices become incredibly short. BBFS and BB anal is rife. Just search on the Sharks thread for some names of those who do it.

Someone mentioned the small girl Estephania at Sharks performs BB anal recently. Estephania does not work at Sharks anymore though. She was seen at Oase then went to a club further up the A5 free way.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheCane;2164464]Speaking of "Bub", whatever happened to Hessen Bub?[/QUOTE]I read somewhere that he changed his handling name, I guess girls found out who it is.

[QUOTE=RogueNation;2164473]I seriously doubt that. Percentage is a lot lower. Might depend on how much you're willing to pay for it. From 500 extra for BBFS some girls will start thinking about it. Hard to say as I never offered a girl extra money for BBFS. I know guys who do and have a faint idea of their success rates.[/QUOTE]You could doubt it, but doesn't mean your numbers are proven to be any better. "Seriously".

A girl just has to fuck one customer in the club bareback to be in that stat. Not every customer, but just one customer. No; boyfriends and pimps are not in that stat.

My numbers are based on my experience. If your numbers are at a lower level, it just means you had less success. I think the actual stats might be higher, because there are definitely girls who won't do me at the money I offered, but do other customers at whatever money they offered.

[QUOTE=RogueNation;2164387]Interesting to see that despite that experience you still stick to your opinion.[/QUOTE]Why so interesting? Even pooled sources and Romanian people themselves agree with them being Latin people. Should I trust a German's opinion on Romanian cultural classification over Romanian people themselves?

[QUOTE=MrHo;2164476]I want to avoid Romanians though as they may have something from child vaccine injections because poor country's hospital tend to share needles etc..[/QUOTE]That's one of the most ludicrous statements that I've ever heard. Worse considering that a person who has enough world experience to travel across the globe made this comment. It's completely baseless that a 20 something year old person carries an infectious disease gained from contaminated vaccines given when they were children. It's not medically impossible but so unlikely that it would not have any statistical relevance.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2164502]I agree worth most (again), but you contradict yourself. The word 'to buy' is nothing but a word that implies another word: 'a catalyst'.[/QUOTE]It makes sense. A catalyst is not something that causes something. A catalyst is something that lowers the theshold that must be reached for a process to happen. The money lowers the theshold for love to occur. A guy no longer has to be successful, physically attractive, of similar age, and caring. Now he can just be rich, a little chubby, a little older, and not an asshole.

[QUOTE=UncleOx;2164662]The general prevalence of [B]HIV [/B]in Germany is about [B]0. 15%.[/B] Assume a WG gets 1200 room sessions annually, and if she is reluctant to or rarely offers BBFS (1%) then the probability for the girl to gets [B]HIV infection [/B]in one year would be less than:

[B]1 - (0.9985) **12 = 1.79%.[/B] [/QUOTE]That assumes that each exposure would immediately create an infection. That's not even close to true. The (vaginal male to female) transmission rate is about 0.08%.

So using your numbers, if a sex worker has 1200 customers (1200 sessions with a different customer each time) per year, and 0.15% of them are HIV infected, then that's 1200 * 0.0015 = 1.8 exposures per year.

And given a transmission rate of 0.08%, the probability of HIV infection is then 1.8 * 0.0008 = 0.144% chance of infection each year.

A more direct calculation can be done using this statistic: HIV infection is found in about 0.2% of female sex workers in Germany.

([URL]https://ecdc.europa.eu/sites/portal/files/media/en/publications/Publications/dublin-declaration-sex-workers.pdf[/URL]).

The female to male vaginal HIV transmission rate is about. 0.04%. So the probability of a man getting HIV from a single random encounter with a female German sex worker is:

0.002 * 0.0004 = 0.0000008 = 0.00008 %

Put another way, if you had BBFS with 1000 different female German sex workers, your chances of becoming HIV infected would be 0.08%.

To put that in perspective, the chances of flipping a coin and getting 10 heads in a row is more likely (it's more than 0.09%.)

[QUOTE=SamsonMonger;2164710]Why so interesting? Even pooled sources and Romanian people themselves agree with them being Latin people. Should I trust a German's opinion on Romanian cultural classification over Romanian people themselves?[/QUOTE]As far as I know by experience, Romanian people agree that they are Latin origin, but they go further, Romanian people in FKK also seems to believe that they are Italian or Spanish LOL!

German people are rational people, so maybe German people will say Romanian people are Romanian people, so I think I will believe more German people for this matter than Romanian people who think they are Italian or Spanish LOL.

[QUOTE=SmokeLight;2164617]Thank you, well said about good anal! The screaming, moaning and pillow grabbing instantly brings back my memories about Aisha, the librarian-looking girl with glasses from Living Room in summer 2016. A lifetime experience.[/QUOTE]Yeah. Nice experiences having your hard cock inside their assholes then coming inside their butt. Feels real good blasting a nut there in their black hole.

[QUOTE=UncleOx;2164662]The general prevalence of [B]HIV [/B]in Germany is about [B]0. 15%.[/B] Assume a WG gets 1200 room sessions annually, and if she is reluctant to or rarely offers BBFS (1%) then the probability for the girl to gets [B]HIV infection [/B]in one year would be less than:

[B]1 - (0.9985) **12 = 1.79%.[/B]

If she constantly offers BBFS (10%) in order to charge more money (100-300 E), then the chance for HIV infection in one year would be great than:

1 - (0.9985) **120 = [B]16.48%.[/B].

In two years the probability of HIV infection would be [B]30.25%[/B] if using this formula.

So I always avoid girls whom are some kind of regular BBFS providers.[/QUOTE]Then AO club must have been disaster then.

Well anal BBFS is dangerous, normal intercourse has much less risk, but risk is there yes.

FKK line up got its up and down, and also its got up and down and vanishing of some nationality.

I miss Czech girls a lot actually, young beautiful blonde or brunette one like Marketa in Artemis who is long gone.

Back in early 2010's, I found few young Czech stunners, but now they are rare now.

I think Hungarian girls are to follow to be vanished. And polish girls are almost vanished already. Oh I loved polish blonde girls.

Surprisingly, I kind of think German girls are quite secure, I think there could be more of certain type of hybrid Germans walking in especially second generation hybrid immigrant girls will be more as time advance as they live right in the country where FKK is and easy to access to this job since it is right there.

Another sure secure ones are Romanians and Bulgarians, they will always be meats provider to German FKK LOL.

I wait for Ukraine to join eu or at least get some kind of work visa with eu, so I may get to see Ukrainian in German FKK then, if that happen, I am going to have to be FKK client immigrants to Germany LOL.

A few veterans I've known throughout the years are BBFS afficionados. 300 for 3 hours, no extra is their offer at mainstream club. I suspect they develop a sixth sense for who to proposition (not always a verbal proposition). But BBFS is an in-demand service, so you have to suspect lots of mongers ask. And once a WG has done it, I suspect that she will be open to it in the future. A few names were revealed to me, but it is only after they had a falling out with the WG. Or that WG left the business. While it was ongoing, they didn't want to jeopardize it by naming her.

One prominent poster years back used to get AO offers from a few of the WGs he long-roomed with. He speculated that the WGs saw it as a challenge to get him to pop.

Well put Neurosynth, we can finally agree on something. Also, no sex worker in German FKKs probably have sex with 1200 different guys in one year. The top girls make so many repeat rooms that even if they do 2000 rooms a year, which is extremely high and perhaps 5 in average per day, 75% of these are probably repeats. I have talked to a few FKK girls about how many different guys they have had sex with, and 3-400 different guys a year is more the norm. Of course some have more, but then the repeats are probably higher too. If they work 200-250 days a year. The second year will also have tons of repeats, so you cannot add the numbers. Perhaps add the second year on a 1.5-1.6 multiplier. Also notice the fairly low difference between the HIV rate for sex workers (0.2%) and for among the general population 0.15% And perhaps also add in the increased rate of HIV among homosexual men. Which also include gay male prostitutes.

If I catch HIV from an FKK girl after natures will, I am going to run straight over to a store and deliver a lotto coupon. Although I personally don't normally go for the BBFS.

[QUOTE=MyTwoInches;2164515]"For the right amount of money".

Perhaps I should add "for the right guy".[/QUOTE]Now that is changing the goal posts after the scoring goal has been made.