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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1973589]That's another scenario, having DATY. He was like "I didn't touch her and she wasn't wet from seeing me".

HB.[/QUOTE]I never said somehing like that.

[QUOTE=Iceberg27;1973372]I was a bit in talking mode instead of having sex. At the beginning she made BBBJ and put a condom on my dick and then put a piece of lubricant cream on my dick. ....I asked her why you use this you are not get wet with me? [/QUOTE]This kind of sounded like it.

HB.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;1973669]This kind of sounded like it.

HB.[/QUOTE]That was at least after 15-20 minutes foreplay and blowjob.

He just asked her a question. He said he was into talking mood. So they had a talk to kill his curiosity. That's the way I read it. Nothing about demand to get wet. Nobody has control over that.

Hi all,

I discovered the FKK scene earlier this year after years of Nevada brothel-hopping. I've been to Germany twice since then (most recently two weeks ago) and had a great time at Goldentime, Living Room and Acapulco (Velbert). I'm still relatively new to the scene and the only comparison I have is Nevada. I'm visiting again this weekend for one night only and I really want to make the most out of this. Please forgive the newbie questions, but any advice would be appreciated.

I'd like to know what you can and can't do in an hour (EUR 100) as standard. In my past visits I've done BBBJ, DFK and GFE for no extra and I understand these are standard but things such as anal / DATY / CIM are extra. How about something like FIA? Last couple of times I went for this and my hand was pushed away although neither girl said anything about it being possible for extra money.

Secondly, I'm travelling to Goldentime and Living Room again and I only have one day. Can anyone recommend a girl for the best GFE? That's really what I'm looking for.

Finally, just for a bit of fun, if you had one hour with a girl at Goldentime / Living Room, what would you do, and how much would you expect to pay? I understand this is personal and YMMV but I'm not very imaginative and just looking for ideas about things I might want to try that are tried and tested with the girls (I. E. They won't totally freak out at the suggestion!

Again, apologies for the newbie questions!

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1973382]Frankly,
It's irrational to expect girls to get wet from being horny when she is fucking the tenth customer for the day and 50th for the week. I think that's arrogant to even think that way. To her it's a job. Do you get horny when you have a meeting with a customer, or talk to your boss?[/QUOTE]Well, there is no certain link between getting horny and getting wet.

I remember having read in a legal journal many years ago that in a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] case, the defendant argued that he did not [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] the girl and that although she repeatedly said "no" (which was confirmed by independent witnesses), this was just a "game" because she was already wet when he entered her and hence her body expressed her willingness to have sex.

This defence failed however upon the expert evidence of an MD who explained that women get wet in the expectation of an imminent penetration, whether or not the penetration is forced or with her consent. It is simply a defence mechanism of the female body to avoid damage to her tender parts. Of course this all has its limits and if you are the x-th customer in a row her juices may simply have reached the end of the line or when you fuck for a long time (especially with a condom) her juices cannot keep up the pace.

Iceberg,

First you said:

[QUOTE=Iceberg27;1973372]At the beginning she made BBBJ and put a condom on my dick and then put a piece of lubricant cream on my dick. When a girl do it I am really a little bit uppset but usually since am in a horny mode I give up and go on but this time I asked her why you use this you are not get wet with me? She said I should do something to make her wet. And how can I expect that she get wet normally? [/QUOTE]Then you said:[QUOTE=Iceberg27;1973507]I really don't understand why it is being arrogant to be curious about something [/QUOTE]If all you said was if you are curious about girls getting wet on their own, I would not have used the world "arrogant".

But you said, explicitly, that you get upset when such a thing happens. That is not mere curiosity.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1973557]Others maybe having a completely different experience to you ( I am). It is very rare for girls to be already pre lubed (or wet) when I start DATY on them. By the end of DATY, many will be juiced up even if was only saliva (and it isn't just that). Many girls after DATY will want to mob up the excess juice with a wipe or paper towel.

Then of course apply a good quality lube is important to counter the excessive rubbing friction from a latex condom. Yes we cannot expect girls to be totally self lubricated.

There is the odd girl that claim they are very wet and do not need lube (and their juice does not taste like lube and is too watery), and seem to be partially correct, however long duration sex with condoms always requires lube, in my experience. Any natural juice is not going to last that long with working girls.[/QUOTE]Well, I don't do DATY in the clubs, but perhaps that (DATY) is the answer to Iceberg's question. Anyway, I actually did not write anything about my experience. I just said it is arrogant to expect a girl will be naturally wet after fucking dozens of customers in a weak, and getting upset if they are not naturally wet and having to apply any jelly. To me, if they are naturally wet, that's a bonus. Its bad enough that we expect them to provide GFE, but to demand their bodies also get synchronized and their pussies to become naturally lubricated is a lofty demand.

And my point about Euros. May be because I don't expect girls to ever finish with me, they tell a different story but almost all of them say that they rarely have a finish in the club, that it is just a job for them, and when they do finish it is on their own, or occasionally with a lot of DATY, but it is not predictable or repeatable process (I. E. They don't finish off just because a guy is good looking, or don't finish with the same guy consistently; it just happens occasionally). Getting them to finish is not a even an aspiration for me, ever. What they say is they like guys who pay well, not too hard on them and their pussies, treat them respectfully and well, and smell nice and have a clean breath. Well, anyway, that's the story they tell me.

Iceberg has been around the scene, so I'm sure he ran into good share of girls that use lube and therefore don't expect wet horny girls every time. LOL. Probably didn't express his ideas all that well as his English is lacking.

Fair enough. No disrespect meant, just merely pointed out what can come across as arrogant. I make a thousand mistakes in my own reports myself, and am in no position to point out grammar and other English language errors in the reports of other punters. I thoroughly enjoyed his recent GT, LR and other NRW trip reports and was actually tempted to visit those clubs on my next visit, based partly on his writings, as until now I always limit myself to Sharks and Oase.

[QUOTE=FlagRunner7;1973712]Hi all,

I discovered the FKK scene earlier this year after years of Nevada brothel-hopping. I've been to Germany twice since then (most recently two weeks ago) and had a great time at Goldentime, Living Room and Acapulco (Velbert). I'm still relatively new to the scene and the only comparison I have is Nevada. I'm visiting again this weekend for one night only and I really want to make the most out of this. Please forgive the newbie questions, but any advice would be appreciated.

I'd like to know what you can and can't do in an hour (EUR 100) as standard. In my past visits I've done BBBJ, DFK and GFE for no extra and I understand these are standard but things such as anal / DATY / CIM are extra. How about something like FIA? Last couple of times I went for this and my hand was pushed away although neither girl said anything about it being possible for extra money.

Secondly, I'm travelling to Goldentime and Living Room again and I only have one day. Can anyone recommend a girl for the best GFE? That's really what I'm looking for.

Finally, just for a bit of fun, if you had one hour with a girl at Goldentime / Living Room, what would you do, and how much would you expect to pay? I understand this is personal and YMMV but I'm not very imaginative and just looking for ideas about things I might want to try that are tried and tested with the girls (I. E. They won't totally freak out at the suggestion!

Again, apologies for the newbie questions!

Thanks.[/QUOTE]If they work, I can advice you blond Serbian Dounia at GT, sitting in front of the bar. If you go after at LR, ask for discount 25 when you leave GT, so You will pay 95 for both. At LR, blond Jeni. Ro or brunette curly hair Lily. Ru or small Claudia. Ro dancing at the pole or blond Nora. Ru with tattoo on belly, for high sexual level.

For 1 hour, you can foreplay kissing, DATY, BBBJ without any extra and sex with 1 or 2 rounds if you are fast, for 100, a smile and kiss from the girl at locker. Enjoy.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1973873]Fair enough. No disrespect meant, just merely pointed out what can come across as arrogant. I make a thousand mistakes in my own reports myself, and am in no position to point out grammar and other English language errors in the reports of other punters. I thoroughly enjoyed his recent GT, LR and other NRW trip reports and was actually tempted to visit those clubs on my next visit, based partly on his writings, as until now I always limit myself to Sharks and Oase.[/QUOTE]Jnpr,

It is really nice to hear some people benefiting my reports. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;1973566]Iceberg, your girl is blond Estonian Trinity always wearing short dress to hide her belly. Not new in business.

[/QUOTE]Sirioja,

Yea that is definitely her. She has nice long legs and was wearing a mini dress.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1973801]Iceberg,

First you said:

Then you said:If all you said was if you are curious about girls getting wet on their own, I would not have used the world "arrogant".
CVu
But you said, explicitly, that you get upset when such a thing happens. That is not mere curiosity.[/QUOTE]I think it is normal being a little bit uppset. Of course I didn't start to cry or go to the desk to claim her. LOL. Maybe I used the wrong word. Not uppset. Just made me think and needed to ask her. Curiosity was about the relation of being wet and sexual attraction to your partner.

PL,

Thanks for your support. I was only curious about this issue. My last GF was older than me and everytime we come home for sex she was jumping on me saying very passionate words. Taking of my shirt. Sucking me like crazy. She was behaving like she is dying to have sex with me. And when we came to penetration always asking for a lubricant gel. I had bought many types of them and have it in my car and bedroom. She was telling it is because the anti-depressants she is using. She was claiming these drugs making dryness in pussy. I broke up with her because I didn't have even half of her passion to have sex with her. But just was suspicious these theatre only for keeping me in hand. I don't know. Not really important now.

Planning to visit Frankfurt 5 big FKK clubs, the issue is because of the holidays, I'm not sure which day I should go to Germany.

So I have a choice of either 21st this month or 11th of Jan, which date you think I can enjoy the best LU?

I have 2 other questions.

Should I expect snow when I reach Frankfurt and around the 5 big FKK clubs?

And I'm from a never snowy country, so I dunno does the car need to have a special tires for the snow?

Thanks for any info.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;1973900]If they work, I can advice you blond Serbian Dounia at GT, sitting in front of the bar. If you go after at LR, ask for discount 25 when you leave GT, so You will pay 95 for both. At LR, blond Jeni. Ro or brunette curly hair Lily. Ru or small Claudia. Ro dancing at the pole or blond Nora. Ru with tattoo on belly, for high sexual level.

For 1 hour, you can foreplay kissing, DATY, BBBJ without any extra and sex with 1 or 2 rounds if you are fast, for 100, a smile and kiss from the girl at locker. Enjoy.[/QUOTE]As I was told by the girls in GT, the rate is 50 Euro per half hour or per shot whichever comes first. Is that true?

[QUOTE=MythoVirus;1974132]So I have a choice of either 21st this month or 11th of Jan, which date you think I can enjoy the best LU?

Should I expect snow when I reach Frankfurt and around the 5 big FKK clubs?[/QUOTE]No brainer January 11. SixT rental cars will have snow tires. There may be snow.