Kyiv

[QUOTE=LilJoey; 1283828]I'm curious why you are asking your question about Romanian escorts on the Kiev thread? Are you a Romanian escort trying to get noticed? My experience with Romanian escorts on the Internet is that all pictures are fake, much like in Kiev. Furthermore, the few occasions I did try a Romanian escort to my hotel while in Bucharest, the girl who arrived was a hardcore upseller and cheat. I do not recommend Romanian escorts inside Romania (some on the Bucharest thread of ISG report ok results with an agency called damedelux). However, I Do love the look of Romanian women. And for those who share that enjoyment of the beauty of Romanian women, I would recommend visiting the FKK clubs Palace and Oase in the immediate environs of Frankfurt, Germany. There one will find a staff containing a large percentage of girls from Romania and more recently Moldova (although they may have meant Moldavia, a principality inside Romania) , as well as girls from Bulgaria, Poland, Germany and other origins. The Romanian girls I have met in the FKK's were for the most part, gorgeous and very nice, if you treat them well. However, Some guys who approach them with a very cheap attitude of wanting the girl to give everything she has for a short 50 Euro session have gotten less than great results. It's because there is nothing that will get a Romanian going (male or female) than the sense that someone is trying to take advantage of them. Then, watch out! They are very adept at trying to get the upper hand. But if you approach these girls with respect and generosity and tell them upfront that you want to be good to them and give them a longer session of at least an hour, and longer if they are very good, then you probably won't get a better session from anyone. Because you have then turned around the motivations of the girl from trying to get the better of you, into trying to please you more. All I can say when thinking of the wonderful Romanian girls I have been with in Germany are words like,"sizzling","magnificent" and "wonderful". My dreams are still filled with images from some of the best moments I have shared with some Romanian girls in the FKK's whom I would consider to be 9's at least, and I keep going back to see some of those same girls, one in particular at FKK Goldentime in Vienna, Austria. So I say, Romanian escorts are great, but only outside Romania, in the FKK's, or perhaps other locations (I'm thinking of some Romanian girls I met in Madrid, Spain in clubs like Flowers Park and Factory Air, who were pretty hot also.)

LJ[/QUOTE]Hi LJ,

Do you remember the girl's name in golden time in Vienna?

Thanks,

Naykan

[QUOTE=Climaxnow;1283824]I have been dating Eastern Europeans for twenty years.[/QUOTE]This makes me ponder about the pre-internet era, the era where you actually needed balls to travel halfway around the world without even one single info about where to find girls (and nor about where to find anything in fact). That was a thrill, but now the thrill is gone, unless you go beyond the Urals or to the Stans. Today people are over-informed, and it seems that they need even more and more info than the tons that they already have. I can't remember how many times sex-weaned friends questionned me about where to go in FSU while drooling on their shirts. Fucking insecure suckers. Get some balls. First time I was in Brasil, it was in Belem, I was on my own, it was in 1988, and I took no advice before.

Just a thought. Maybe too much Chardonnais for lunch. (smile)

I still. And once again. Dare to ask if there is any young girls with 0 size tits around in Kiev? I would love to recieve some useful info. PM me please, and I will also share my adress book with you!

[QUOTE=Prosal; 1284181]This makes me ponder about the pre-internet era, the era where you actually needed balls to travel halfway around the world without even one single info about where to find girls (and nor about where to find anything in fact). That was a thrill, but now the thrill is gone, unless you go beyond the Urals or to the Stans. Today people are over-informed, and it seems that they need even more and more info than the tons that they already have. I can't remember how many times sex-weaned friends questionned me about where to go in FSU while drooling on their shirts. Fucking insecure suckers. Get some balls. First time I was in Brasil, it was in Belem, I was on my own, it was in 1988, and I took no advice before.

Just a thought. Maybe too much Chardonnais for lunch. (smile) [/QUOTE]I did not have to travel at all. In the mid 90's a million poles were given visa's to enter the US and most landed in my home town. After that smaller waves of Russians, Romanians, Lithuanians, and Ukranians also followed. The stock of women the first ten years was amazing. Most were educated, had no opportunity in there homeland, and had no interest in dating guys of there own nationality. Great time for me because I was young, college educated, and financially secure. Unfortunately, my party is over here and I have to start actually traveling to Eastern Europe.

[QUOTE=Prosal; 1284181]This makes me ponder about the pre-internet era, the era where you actually needed balls to travel halfway around the world without even one single info about where to find girls (and nor about where to find anything in fact). That was a thrill, but now the thrill is gone, unless you go beyond the Urals or to the Stans. Today people are over-informed, and it seems that they need even more and more info than the tons that they already have. I can't remember how many times sex-weaned friends questionned me about where to go in FSU while drooling on their shirts. Fucking insecure suckers. Get some balls. First time I was in Brasil, it was in Belem, I was on my own, it was in 1988, and I took no advice before.

Just a thought. Maybe too much Chardonnais for lunch. (smile) [/QUOTE]Prosal,

Are you drinking the House wine?

Chardonay in London is so yesterday, but I still like it though. A lot of English Ladttes on the pull weekends drink industrial quantities of it.

They can drink a lot of men under the table.

Yes, you are right about the times when you needed balls to hit EE countries.

The trouble is I had a lot of balls when I was a care free student, and did a lot of them. Got me in for a lot of questioning though, when I got back when they looked at all the EE visas stamped in my passport. Yes, before the wall came down.

I only got on the internet thing seeking info in the last 7 years.

The thing is before the internet, you just needed to hit the very few touristy clubs, or bars in First class hotels, and you are home and dry.

Prague, you needed to head to Lucerna Club, it was the River Palace of those days.

It was mainly German sex tourists who drove from across the border.

Warsaw, there was a place called white crocodile or something. In the old town.

None of the EE countries at the time had In Call apartments where you went for sex.

Hookers were only doing the bars and clubs of First Class hotels. A lot of them were working for the secret police. I never had hookers at the time, didn't need to, with all the young girls around at the time. They found me.

Had my first minor STD from one or more of them. Freaked the shit out of me at the time.

I never thought of going to the Ukraine in those days. I don't think I ever met anyone who said he went there.

Russia and FSU would have been too much to explain had I gone there.

I only heard about Kiev and Ukraine when I joined ISG about 4 years ago. And only decided to hit Kiev, when Wizz air started flying there, and the UAH exchange became VFM. But if you paid sky high Air fares and 4 Uah to the US$, I would not have considered it.

The ISG info came in very handy for me, but I still did Kiev my way.

Stayed and still do at hotels. Got my first girl through Kiev Post, and had.

Great time at massage places.

My best discovery was on Flirt, altough they say Flirt and Mamba are the same.

Talking about Brasil, I was there in January 89. Stayed at hotel Excelsior on Cobacabana, close to HELP disco club. Well that was one of the best clubs I have ever been to, Pity closed last few years.

Did you try it?

You are drinking Chardonay and I am on the Perry, not far from the Lycee.

Bloody French, you can't get away from them. I smell them miles away with all that Garlic, LOL. .

Au Revoir from Sexy London.

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[QUOTE=Prosal; 1284181]This makes me ponder about the pre-internet era, the era where you actually needed balls to travel halfway around the world without even one single info about where to find girls (and nor about where to find anything in fact). That was a thrill, but now the thrill is gone, unless you go beyond the Urals or to the Stans. Today people are over-informed, and it seems that they need even more and more info than the tons that they already have. I can't remember how many times sex-weaned friends questionned me about where to go in FSU while drooling on their shirts. Fucking insecure suckers. Get some balls. First time I was in Brasil, it was in Belem, I was on my own, it was in 1988, and I took no advice before.

Just a thought. Maybe too much Chardonnais for lunch. (smile) [/QUOTE].

Prosal. Are you drinking the House wine?

Chardonay in London is so yesterday, but I still like it though. A lot of English Ladttes on the pull weekends drink industrial quantities of it.

They can drink a lot of men under the table.

Yes, you are right about the times when you needed balls to hit EE countries.

The trouble is I had a lot of balls when I was a care free student, and did a lot of them. Got me in for a lot of questioning though, when I got back when they looked at all the EE visas stamped in my passport. Yes, before the wall came down.

I only got on the internet thing seeking info in the last 7 years.

The thing is before the internet, you just needed to hit the very few touristy clubs, or bars in First class hotels, and you are home and dry.

Prague, you needed to head to Lucerna Club, it was the River Palace of those days.

It was mainly German sex tourists who drove from across the border.

Warsaw, there was a place called white crocodile or something. In the old town.

None of the EE countries at the time had In Call apartments where you went for sex.

Hookers were only doing the bars and clubs of First Class hotels. A lot of them were working for the secret police. I never had hookers at the time, didn't need to, with all the young girls around at the time. They found me.

Had my first minor STD from one or more of them. Freaked the shit out of me at the time.

I never thought of going to the Ukraine in those days. I don't think I ever met anyone who said he went there.

Russia and FSU would have been too much to explain had I gone there.

I only heard about Kiev and Ukraine when I joined ISG about 4 years ago. And only decided to hit Kiev, when Wizz air started flying there, and the UAH exchange became VFM. But if you paid sky high Air fares and 4 Uah to the US$, I would not have considered it.

The ISG info came in very handy for me, but I still did Kiev my way.

Stayed and still do at hotels. Got my first girl through Kiev Post, and had.

Great time at massage places.

My best discovery was on Flirt, altough they say Flirt and Mamba are the same.

Talking about Brasil, I was there in January 89. Stayed at hotel Excelsior on Cobacabana, close to HELP disco club. Well that was one of the best clubs I have ever been to, Pity closed last few years.

Did you try it?

You are drinking Chardonay and I am on the Perry, not far from the Lycee.

Bloody French, you can't get away from them. I smell them miles away with all that Garlic, LOL. .

Au Revoir from Sexy London.

.

[QUOTE=Naykan; 1284177]Hi LJ,

Do you remember the girl's name in golden time in Vienna?

Thanks,

Naykan[/QUOTE]Check my prior posts on the Vienna thread. I remember writing about my first session with her.

[QUOTE=Climaxnow;1283824]Please read through my 211 posts and tell me what venue I am shilling. I joined ISG to talk to real people about the hobby. I am not interested in reading fairy tales designed to lure men to Kiev. The stooge posting on this thread knows well that once you have arrived into town you will naturally go where it is easiest to find prostitutes. For example, take this post by Philophosus1, its a complete fabrication by you know who. His only intent is to create an illusion of easy to find girlfriends in Kiev. He wants you to jump on that plane thinking beautiful met girls will be knocking on your door. I had read enough of this posters reports to realize he is not a monger. No matter how well written he is, he simply has no talent in relaying himself as an authentic monger. His stuff is so bush league superficial that it is easy to spot on the thread.[/QUOTE]I certainly find all these bush league superficial posts annoying and deceitful because as you put it well: they give men an illusion and lure men to Kiev thinking it's easy to find good-looking cheap fucks or freebie GFE sex. Example, if you look back at posts in 2009 and 2010, you'll find fantasy mongers in their 40's claiming they had fucked 5 girls in one day and popped 7 times, and they continued this streak for 5 days. I think Uke Boy was one of the few found these posts bush league. The Kiev forum at times is very tainted by these illusory posts.

[QUOTE=Harry Hardman; 1284273]I certainly find all these Bush league superficial posts annoying and deceitful because as you put it well: they give men an illusion and lure men to Kiev thinking it's easy to find good-looking cheap fucks or freebie GFE sex. .[/QUOTE].

Harry LOL Now. I know where you are coming from?

Luring mongers instead to go to that Well Known Strip Club. US$ 100 an / Hour, right. LOL.

Tell you what though. Honeslty the first thing I am going to do, when I am heading back to Kiev, is to head to it and book myself one girl that I fancy.

But first I will get her to sign a piece of paper with just, D A the, to all the things that we agree on in the club.

Never took out a girl from there before, although I go there on few nights.

Time 4 me to dip my dick into their waters and see what all the fuss was all about.

All it means that I need to cut a bit on my drinking expenses in London, and save some money for a Take out from there.

And this is no illusion, even I am now on the second bottle.

See you there.

So many people discussing here clubs, bars, girls etc but who is visiting Kiev? Just kidding. Just back from Kiev and again there from Friday on for one week. So Climax, Liljoy and all the others. Let's have a beer and discuss it more personally. First time I go on my own and don't have one single business meeting.

PM me.

[QUOTE=Harry Hardman;1284273]I certainly find all these bush league superficial posts annoying and deceitful because as you put it well: they give men an illusion and lure men to Kiev thinking it's easy to find good-looking cheap fucks or freebie GFE sex. Example, if you look back at posts in 2009 and 2010, you'll find fantasy mongers in their 40's claiming they had fucked 5 girls in one day and popped 7 times, and they continued this streak for 5 days. I think Uke Boy was one of the few found these posts bush league. The Kiev forum at times is very tainted by these illusory posts.[/QUOTE]Honestly what Fun the Kiev thread is becoming. Really enjoying it.

Quote Originally Posted by Climaxnow [View Original Post]

Hi EC, don't be fooled into visiting Rio from the deceptive intel posted on this thread. Kirch is a creation of LJ to promote the club. As a matter of fact, here are all of the other LJ creations: Harry Hardman, Jack 2004, Poker Player, Limarian, Pedro Toronja, Ronaldninja. Quote.

Hello H H.

Get your Latino Chums, Pedro Toronja, and Portugese Ronaldninja, over here, and the all the Tapas and Sangria is on me.

So when I get my Ass to Rio, the drinks are on you, so I can afford the US$300 for 3 hours top of the range girl. I have my own rating system.

I can't do both.

I am sure you Understand, LOL

[QUOTE=Harry Hardman;1284273]I certainly find all these bush league superficial posts annoying and deceitful because as you put it well: they give men an illusion and lure men to Kiev thinking it's easy to find good-looking cheap fucks or freebie GFE sex. Example, if you look back at posts in 2009 and 2010, you'll find fantasy mongers in their 40's claiming they had fucked 5 girls in one day and popped 7 times, and they continued this streak for 5 days. I think Uke Boy was one of the few found these posts bush league. The Kiev forum at times is very tainted by these illusory posts.[/QUOTE]I think I know that you are referring to Hunter Dave.

To be fair to the guy, I never met him. But on this thread he did put a hell lot of info into it. He also helped a lot of newbies, and a lot of them got on here and thanked him.

He posted links +Photos of actual girls. And he is the only one I exchanged Girls digits with. None of the girls were an illusion about sex In Kiev. .

Simply because they were hookers, which was the thing I was looking for. .

Where he got flamed was the part about the freebies, and how many times he popped. .

But no one here is in a position to verify those claims, and frankly doesn't bother me in the least.

What we get now on the Kiev thread is a lot Illusory Mongers with Multiple Usernames, who pop up here, every now and then before they disappear, only to pop up later under another name.

But the scripts the dates, the style gives their game away.

I find this fucking annoying, where someone I thinks he is taking the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] out of us.

They end up losing all credibilty by doing it.

[QUOTE=Harry Hardman;1284273]I certainly find all these bush league superficial posts annoying and deceitful because as you put it well: they give men an illusion and lure men to Kiev thinking it's easy to find good-looking cheap fucks or freebie GFE sex. Example, if you look back at posts in 2009 and 2010, you'll find fantasy mongers in their 40's claiming they had fucked 5 girls in one day and popped 7 times, and they continued this streak for 5 days. I think Uke Boy was one of the few found these posts bush league. The Kiev forum at times is very tainted by these illusory posts.[/QUOTE]I think I know that you are referring to Hunter Dave.

To be fair to the guy, I never met him. But on this thread he did put a hell lot of info into it. He also helped a lot of newbies, and a lot of them got on here and thanked him.

He posted links +Photos of actual girls. And he is the only one I exchanged Girls digits with. None of the girls were an illusion about sex In Kiev. .

Simply because they were hookers, which was the thing I was looking for. .

Where he got flamed was the part about the freebies, and how many times he popped. .

But no one here is in a position to verify those claims, and frankly doesn't bother me in the least.

What we get now on the Kiev thread is a lot Illusory Mongers with Multiple. Usernames, who pop up here, every now and then before they disappear, only to pop up later under another name.

But the scripts the dates, the style gives their game away.

I find this fucking annoying, where someone I thinks he is taking the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] out of us.

They end up losing all credibilty by doing it.

[QUOTE=Naykan; 1284177]Hi LJ,

Do you remember the girl's name in golden time in Vienna?

Thanks,

Naykan[/QUOTE]Her name was Joanna, a very common Romanian name.

[QUOTE=Kirch; 1284292]So many people discussing here clubs, bars, girls etc but who is visiting Kiev? Just kidding. Just back from Kiev and again there from Friday on for one week. So Climax, Liljoy and all the others. Let's have a beer and discuss it more personally. First time I go on my own and don't have one single business meeting.

PM me.[/QUOTE]Hello Kirch,

Could you post your Kiev experiance on the thread?

Thank you.