East China - Shanghai

[QUOTE=Traveller747;1867614]Because I had no success at Tang I chose BaDiYa on Zhaojiabang Road instead. A big building styled a bit like roman baths. After the shower I had to wait about 15 minutes before I was led to the lineup together with a chinese customer. Between 10 and 12 girls to choose from; all doable and in the 7-9 range. It was difficult to decide, so I followed the old wisdom: when in doubt choose the biggest tits. Fortunately the chinese guy took another one, so I didn't have to change plans.

The girl not only had the biggest tits, but also a beautiful face. But as I followed her to the room, I noticed her skinny legs and not much meat on her butt. In the room she was concerned about a big western dick in her small asian pussy. After cleaning me thoroughly, she gave a nice hot and cold BBBJ. The condom came on before she slowly lowered herself onto my dick. A lot of fake moaning, no kissing, but she didn't mind changing positions. So after all no bad experience.[/QUOTE]Inspired by Traveller747, I checked out BaDiYa (in Kang Ding's absence). Not bad. I couldn't make the early bird special so paid 980. Decent line-up. No absolute stunners but plenty of hot girls. All in all, very happy with my pick's attitude and performance. She was one of the youngest and hottest, by my standards. (By the way, she told me she earns 450 for each client, servicing 5-9 per day, her daily take far exceeds her monthly salary back home. Plans to work 2 years, then go home buy a house and find a husband. Real illustration of how prostitution can empower some poor women).

Word I've gotten is that the places within the hongqiao police station may possibly open again after the summer. However, new places are opening very near but within the caohejing police station. I know of at least two. One with an English speaking contact.

It's really interesting, little more than an intersection can make a huge difference.

Cheers,

Taz.

[QUOTE=TheGuy;1867611]Strange since SNG reported it open having checked April 2016. Might be good to hear from Steven.[/QUOTE]My guess is it might still be open. I used to frequent dongsong, and without saying the magic words to the right person, you'd end up standing in the elevator like an idiot. The button for the 4th floor simply didn't work. However, once you were properly announced, the elevator would magically head up to fun.

[QUOTE=Tazman099;1868789]Word I've gotten is that the places within the hongqiao police station may possibly open again after the summer. However, new places are opening very near but within the caohejing police station. I know of at least two. One with an English speaking contact.

It's really interesting, little more than an intersection can make a huge difference.

Cheers,

Taz.[/QUOTE]Actually Gubei is in Changning district so it wasn't affected by the minhang issues (it was end of last year though when things were still ok in Minhang).

Lots of places in Changning.

On a side note the rumor about Hong Mei Road shops closing in June is confirmed as a possibility. But not yet certain (I guess negotiations are still going on.).

Business is horrible in this area though since January so regardless some place may close even if it doesn't become mandatory.

[QUOTE=TheGuy;1867611]Strange since SNG reported it open having checked April 2016. Might be good to hear from Steven.[/QUOTE]I just double checked it with the manager and seems their "camouflage strategy" worked well. At least for that guy who tried to go there. Seems without contacting the manager, what this days because of the "alarm level" will fail mostly. I went to 4 different sauna clubs with customers on Friday and Saturday and not even one used their Main door for bring their clients in. So actually I would not recommend anyone to go to any sauna in Shanghai this days without asking forehand if they are open and for the "rules" to find in.

And better not get tricked to a "Honeypot" massage place which use the same name. I had a guy last week who blamed me a lot, because he insist to get the address without get a VIP membership. And next day he told me very proud that he found the Tang Dynasty Sauna and got a massage there. But who ever has been in the Kang Ding Sauna would not call it a "massage" and additional I know the place was really closed this day. That information I even give him without a membership to avoid he waste his time to go there. It was a good feeling to know that this guy has been tricked like that, but not everyone should get this experience. So if the place you come out is NOT on the Qi Xin Road, than something is going wrong.

Have fund and play safe.

LOL. Do you think the girls can't survive in shanghai earning 1000 rmb a night its 30 thousand a month and that too I said after 2.30 am I gave. A gal told me she is paying 100 rmb per day rent on average sharing basis with her friend. Anyway with due regards it was just my opinion and mongers friends are free to pay whatever they want. It can only bother someone because if the going rate is less in Manhattan few saunas can loose some business. But I don't think theres any comparison.

Regards

[QUOTE=ShanghaiGuide;1868701]For all the guys who blame on the "over-payer" in Manhattan or Judy's.

This kind of discussion come up very often. The idea is, that the girls in Manhattan or Judy's would get used to higher rates and that would ruin the market price and would destroy the chances for the bargain hunter to make a good deal there finally any more.

I am pretty sure, that the "bargain hunter" would better invite the "over-payer" for some free beer instead of blaming them. Because without this guys they would never got their deals any more and in worst case no one of us would get the chance to get any deal their, because they would simply not be there any more if every one would have the same "budget rules" like you mentioned above. Everyone who is here in Shanghai for longer time already will have made the experience, that all around has getting much more expensive. My apartment is 3 times higher than it has been 2008, my shoemaker charge 1400 now for the same I paid 600 in 2008. How should exactly the girls in Manhattan be able to spend 3 times more for their expenses here, but keep their price the same? That would (and will) never work. If they would have to keep the price stable, they would have only the chance to raise up the frequency and meet more clients, what in fact not so easy is but probably the reason why most of the girls try to charge an overnight. One overnight even every night would probably not weep many Girls in that area.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Beijing4987;1866974]Jingan still has many options. The powers that be are only playing the whack a mole game. I had a nice BBBJ for 258. Others report the same to me via pm.[/QUOTE]I don't think it is the time to bet on a game now. A new leader always need to proof his power first and the new leader in Jing An did it actually last Friday by killing his first Mole!

There is (or better was) a sauna in No. 825 yan an Zhong lu, near Shan xi lu called Shu Yi Quan sauna, medium class with girls between 900 and 1400 RMB. They ignored the closing order and that followed up the the first police action against a sauna in Jing An district I hear about yet. This kind of "hot raid" where they come in a running business is not what a sauna is used to. Normally they get the "weather forecast warning", they close, than there will be a cold raid without guest, not workers, girls or manager. Which never will be followed by problems. This "hot raid" brought several people in serious problems. They took around 30 to 40 guests to the police station, where 2 have been released while the others are still arrested.

So I would strongly recommend to avoid any naughty activity this days in Jing An (and Zha Bei) District. Because both under the same administration now!

Have fun but stay safe.

So one of my regular Sauna girls has stopped working due to the "weather"; instead now she is trying to be a freelancer. I want to have her for a full-day outcall (like an entire day, morning to night) - but what would be a reasonable price to pay for something like that? I'm not quite sure, as I've only ever done 1-hour sessions in the past. At the Sauna she used to work at, she was 1000 rmb / hour. Is 3000 rmb reasonable for an entire day outcall? Or is that too low?

Being a very senior member of ISG I think and believe that ISG itself is a guide as it was know previously as guide. There are loads of mongers who share their experiences and opinions and suggestions. Do it need people who are there only to give advices. Question is why some people just keep on giving advices and try to guide others without their personal interests. Are they here to promote some personal saunas or sites. Than they must be posting every thing for their benefits on commissions only. I have seen reports of some so called free suggestions providers. They are seniors with almost 300 reports but I can't find a single FR in their last 30/40 postings. Only comments or suggestions on others postings that too for their own benefit. I hope dear Jackson will be noticing it. ISG don't require guides or suggestions providers. ISG Itself is a huge guide. So please post your field reports and experiences to help each others. Don't behave like news reporters / news providers / free suggestion guides. Regards to everyone.

[QUOTE=Optional;1869069]So one of my regular Sauna girls has stopped working due to the "weather"; instead now she is trying to be a freelancer. I want to have her for a full-day outcall (like an entire day, morning to night) - but what would be a reasonable price to pay for something like that? I'm not quite sure, as I've only ever done 1-hour sessions in the past. At the Sauna she used to work at, she was 1000 rmb / hour. Is 3000 rmb reasonable for an entire day outcall? Or is that too low?[/QUOTE]

As for pricing, it really depends on hotness of girl. You can get an idea from SNG's escorts. Prices are listed.

[QUOTE=ShanghaiGuide;1868932]I don't think it is the time to bet on a game now. A new leader always need to proof his power first and the new leader in Jing An did it actually last Friday by killing his first Mole!

There is (or better was) a sauna in No. 825 yan an Zhong lu, near Shan xi lu called Shu Yi Quan sauna, medium class with girls between 900 and 1400 RMB. They ignored the closing order and that followed up the the first police action against a sauna in Jing An district I hear about yet. This kind of "hot raid" where they come in a running business is not what a sauna is used to. Normally they get the "weather forecast warning", they close, than there will be a cold raid without guest, not workers, girls or manager. Which never will be followed by problems. This "hot raid" brought several people in serious problems. They took around 30 to 40 guests to the police station, where 2 have been released while the others are still arrested.

So I would strongly recommend to avoid any naughty activity this days in Jing An (and Zha Bei) District. Because both under the same administration now!

Have fun but stay safe.[/QUOTE]Seems saunas / massage parlors in Xuhui operating as usual. Is that right?

[QUOTE=ShanghaiGuide;1868932]I don't think it is the time to bet on a game now. A new leader always need to proof his power first and the new leader in Jing An did it actually last Friday by killing his first Mole!

There is (or better was) a sauna in No. 825 yan an Zhong lu, near Shan xi lu called Shu Yi Quan sauna, medium class with girls between 900 and 1400 RMB. They ignored the closing order and that followed up the the first police action against a sauna in Jing An district I hear about yet. This kind of "hot raid" where they come in a running business is not what a sauna is used to. Normally they get the "weather forecast warning", they close, than there will be a cold raid without guest, not workers, girls or manager. Which never will be followed by problems. This "hot raid" brought several people in serious problems. They took around 30 to 40 guests to the police station, where 2 have been released while the others are still arrested.

So I would strongly recommend to avoid any naughty activity this days in Jing An (and Zha Bei) District. Because both under the same administration now!

Have fun but stay safe.[/QUOTE]Wow, I've actually been to the place like 8 years ago.

It is one of the first saunas I visited in Shanghai.

I stopped going there after I realized nuru massage is better than dry massage.

Still sad to hear it got raided.

[QUOTE=Optional;1869069]So one of my regular Sauna girls has stopped working due to the "weather"; instead now she is trying to be a freelancer. I want to have her for a full-day outcall (like an entire day, morning to night) - but what would be a reasonable price to pay for something like that? I'm not quite sure, as I've only ever done 1-hour sessions in the past. At the Sauna she used to work at, she was 1000 rmb / hour. Is 3000 rmb reasonable for an entire day outcall? Or is that too low?[/QUOTE]I think SNG pricing would be too high to compare for a Sauna girl out of work without a website and reviews. If I look at post 10130 below, one girl has stated she gets 2300-4000 rmb per day from a sauna. I would think you could easily get the girl for 2000-3000 for the day (24 hours). This is unless she has quite a client list already built.

Think about it They are banging 5-9 times a day. Unless you are superman, she's probably going to have an easier day with you as well as a more pleasant day where you will take her out to eat etc. Steven's girls (as he has stated) sometimes only get one customer a day for 1200-1500 RMB. But they prefer the work to saunas as it is less work on their bodies. She might welcome a little "boyfriend" like experience. Vs multiple bangs per day.

Just remember, where ever you start is where you will set the price. I would shoot for 2500 and 3000 if you really wanted her. I think this is more than fair and may be more than she expects.

I go to both Shanghai and Guangzhou quiet often.

You should be able to easily fall between 1500-2500 per day, all day.

Rainman

[QUOTE=Optional;1869069]So one of my regular Sauna girls has stopped working due to the "weather"; instead now she is trying to be a freelancer. I want to have her for a full-day outcall (like an entire day, morning to night) - but what would be a reasonable price to pay for something like that? I'm not quite sure, as I've only ever done 1-hour sessions in the past. At the Sauna she used to work at, she was 1000 rmb / hour. Is 3000 rmb reasonable for an entire day outcall? Or is that too low?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PrinceMV2;1869074]Being a very senior member of ISG I think and believe that ISG itself is a guide as it was know previously as guide. There are loads of mongers who share their experiences and opinions and suggestions. Do it need people who are there only to give advices. Question is why some people just keep on giving advices and try to guide others without their personal interests. Are they here to promote some personal saunas or sites. Than they must be posting every thing for their benefits on commissions only. I have seen reports of some so called free suggestions providers. They are seniors with almost 300 reports but I can't find a single FR in their last 30/40 postings. Only comments or suggestions on others postings that too for their own benefit. I hope dear Jackson will be noticing it. ISG don't require guides or suggestions providers. ISG Itself is a huge guide. So please post your field reports and experiences to help each others. Don't behave like news reporters / news providers / free suggestion guides. Regards to everyone.[/QUOTE]I welcome all information whether field reports or information that are suggestions. I am an intelligent person that can decide what I want to use and not. More information beats less. Some of us have spent enough time in Shanghai we have opinions and think we can help. Why does it matter what form it takes?

We have one post wonders that only ask for information and trolls that want to stir the pot. In my opinion they are less welcome than anyone trying to help.

Just my POV.

SAM.