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[QUOTE=Zauberfee;1588752]I guess that's amusing for the guy as well, if you assume that he will get a fair share of what BB has earned on any given day.[/QUOTE]It's not wise for girls to get seen with Thai boy. It can affect the generosity of the customers and the customers may not want to choose her.
I was told this bargirl Nat was attached to a Tomboy friend. I didn't care, since she was just too sizzlingly hot to look at. I am a sucker for looks. Turned out she performed pretty good, including nice kissing, and seemed to like the DATY a lot. So maybe she is ambidextrous.
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[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1588899]Doubt it considering how she was cuddled up to him. My point was that if a gal is emotionally attached to some gut it might effect the way she performs.[/QUOTE]No more so than a hairdresser or a dentist. This is her job, it's what she does for a living. Whether she has a boyfriend or a husband is irrelevant. Her performance will be based on the level of service required of her by the management of the venue she works in, her training, her overall skill set, her mood and energy both of which can be a variable and the behavior of the customer. As with all professions some girls in the P4 P space are naturally suited to and enjoy what they do while others and we have all met them sadly are not.
With a customer who over time she forms a familiarity with a more personal relationship can develop. If she has a boyfriend this is obviously unlikely or at least less likely to happen.
Going off topic slightly from what little I know of partners of working girls, they mostly sponge off them. Assuming they are free to leave this raises the interesting question, why do the girls stay with them. Love?
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[QUOTE=Franciscass;1589024]No more so than a hairdresser or a dentist. This is her job, it's what she does for a living. Whether she has a boyfriend or a husband is irrelevant. Her performance will be based on the level of service required of her by the management of the venue she works in, her training, her overall skill set, her mood and energy both of which can be a variable and the behavior of the customer. As with all professions some girls in the P4 P space are naturally suited to and enjoy what they do while others and we have all met them sadly are not.
With a customer who over time she forms a familiarity with a more personal relationship can develop. If she has a boyfriend this is obviously unlikely or at least less likely to happen.
Going off topic slightly from what little I know of partners of working girls, they mostly sponge off them. Assuming they are free to leave this raises the interesting question, why do the girls stay with them. Love?[/QUOTE]I agree with Franciscass, it makes no difference to the service whether the girl is in a relationship or not. What I have trouble understanding though is how the boyfriend / husband feels about his girlfriend / wife being shagged two or three times a day.
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[QUOTE=Bigatl164;1588914]Thanks for the info, still how does this relate to the "service" Is everything the same after the scrub or oilie? Which do you prefer and why?[/QUOTE]I don't prefer either venue as freelancers at BG or NPL or wherever are fine for me. However it I had to chose, probably Oils as they are smaller and you sometimes get subtle feedback in a lineup situation and so forth vs the extreme impersonal nature of (soapies) where little if any feedback (unless sideliners) is possible. The girls in a Soapie (more than an Oil) are being selected on a unilateral basis with zero input from them most times.
To me, the mutual vibe matters. While there may be other drawbacks to Go Go's, one of the advantages is you can read the vibe before deciding to take her out, even if its only a stage cue.
Note that some soapies are not all fishbowls so sometimes some feedback is possible, for example Emmaneulle has some girls in a fish bowl and then many in a open room, The Lord basically open although they sit around this fountain like area, and Nataree a huge amount of sideliners vs Poseidon, La Belle, Alainz and others essentially mostly fishbowl girls, and sometime its no glass, one way glass, or regular glass, but its largely impersonal compared to alternative venues (Oils, Go Go's, and of course FLs etc)
Also the soapies are generally on the extreme edge of the scale as far as being Japanese centric. So you are generally not on the most favored customer list from the start. Now i suppose that handicap could be overcome by a Farang consistently frequenting a certain Soapy and earning a rep as a gentlemen and so forth, but it could be an issue at some level for new or low frequency visitors.
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[QUOTE=Franciscass;1589024]No more so than a hairdresser or a dentist. This is her job, it's what she does for a living. Whether she has a boyfriend or a husband is irrelevant. Her performance will be based on the level of service required of her by the management of the venue she works in, her training, her overall skill set, her mood and energy both of which can be a variable and the behavior of the customer. As with all professions some girls in the P4 P space are naturally suited to and enjoy what they do while others and we have all met them sadly are not.
With a customer who over time she forms a familiarity with a more personal relationship can develop. If she has a boyfriend this is obviously unlikely or at least less likely to happen.
Going off topic slightly from what little I know of partners of working girls, they mostly sponge off them. Assuming they are free to leave this raises the interesting question, why do the girls stay with them. Love?[/QUOTE]I think there is quite a difference between working as a P4 P gal and being a hairdresser or dentist. They like the Thai dudes for reason of culture.
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[QUOTE=Franciscass;1589024]No more so than a hairdresser or a dentist. This is her job, it's what she does for a living. Whether she has a boyfriend or a husband is irrelevant. Her performance will be based on the level of service required of her by the management of the venue she works in, her training, her overall skill set, her mood and energy both of which can be a variable and the behavior of the customer. As with all professions some girls in the P4 P space are naturally suited to and enjoy what they do while others and we have all met them sadly are not.
With a customer who over time she forms a familiarity with a more personal relationship can develop. If she has a boyfriend this is obviously unlikely or at least less likely to happen.
Going off topic slightly from what little I know of partners of working girls, they mostly sponge off them. Assuming they are free to leave this raises the interesting question, why do the girls stay with them. Love?[/QUOTE]Some customers while fully aware its P4P, still like to "win over" the girl in some sense, and there is nothing wrong with that per se, but that's the wild card factor that makes it more interesting for some, (and as I think you've acknowledged) a serious boyfriend takes that (albeit improbable) fantasy card off the table. It may have to do with the monger's style and particular girl he encounters, but if for example he's routinely "making love" to these women (vs just wham bam or hard core sex), my guess is he's more interested in that wild card.
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[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1588899]Doubt it considering how she was cuddled up to him. My point was that if a gal is emotionally attached to some gut it might effect the way she performs.[/QUOTE]True, especially if she's in the giddy early "in love" phase, a point where she's thinking about him 24/7 even while doing another guy at the Oil.
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[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1589451]I think there is quite a difference between working as a P4 P gal and being a hairdresser or dentist. They like the Thai dudes for reason of culture.[/QUOTE]Of course there is, as indeed there is between a hairdresser and a dentist. I wasn't comparing professions only that a working girl does a job, spends a day at the office just as the dentist and the hairdresser does. You can debate the level of education or intelligence required for different professions and their status in society but they all deliver a service of one form or another.
I feel some guys mistake the physical intimacy of having sex with a provider with an imagined emotional experience. This may come from inexperience or a need to be liked but those of us who have enjoyed P4 P over a long period will realize the lady is working not making love.
A skilled practitioner will leave you with a feeling that you are special, you are a good lover and there is chemistry between you. This so called GFE is almost always simply a part of her skill set. This is not to say there isn't the odd cosmic experience for both parties or encounters that continue on to lifelong partnerships but at the end of the day P4 P is a service as is hairdressing and dentistry.
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"snip" So maybe she is ambidextrous.[/QUOTE]You mean that she can breath underwater as well!
Hotman.
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[QUOTE=Franciscass;1589486]Of course there is, as indeed there is between a hairdresser and a dentist. I wasn't comparing professions only that a working girl does a job, spends a day at the office just as the dentist and the hairdresser does. You can debate the level of education or intelligence required for different professions and their status in society but they all deliver a service of one form or another.
I feel some guys mistake the physical intimacy of having sex with a provider with an imagined emotional experience. This may come from inexperience or a need to be liked but those of us who have enjoyed P4 P over a long period will realize the lady is working not making love.
A skilled practitioner will leave you with a feeling that you are special, you are a good lover and there is chemistry between you. This so called GFE is almost always simply a part of her skill set. This is not to say there isn't the odd cosmic experience for both parties or encounters that continue on to lifelong partnerships but at the end of the day P4 P is a service as is hairdressing and dentistry.[/QUOTE]I completely agree with you, we pay we get what we want, I never think or look for GFE when I go to, in my case, the oilies.
GFE cannot exist and the P4 P business it 's all show. I love GFE with my girlfriend (who is not Thai) and extraordinary sex with P4 P ladies.
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[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1589451]They like the Thai dudes for reason of culture.[/QUOTE]Most Thai girls I have met don't like Thai guys. They think they are unreliable and do a runner when the going gets tough I. E. After getting them pregnant. Even if some girls prefer Thai boyfriends because of the culture fit it still doesn't explain why they give them a chunk of the money they earn.
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I feel some guys mistake the physical intimacy of having sex with a provider with an imagined emotional experience. This may come from inexperience or a need to be liked but those of us who have enjoyed P4 P over a long period will realize the lady is working not making love.
[/QUOTE]Making Love is just a euphemistic phrase with little meaning. We are not having an emotional experience at all. We just pay to have pleasurable play.
There are many border line hookers in Thailand. They can be picky as to who they fuck, may want to enjoy as well, and also happy to receive money as well. I have met plenty of Thai hookers who can get their rocks off. Some may even lose site of working in the throws of it. Borderline hookers were probably more prevalent 20 years ago. The Thermae had many part time borderline hookers. They were picky. Sometimes had no customer due to not finding the right guy and rejecting plenty.
I have also known hookers who made it clear they were giving a freebie, or more than just once.
Don't imagine all sessions are the same. People are allowed to enjoy their work on occasions, no matter what the profession. Hookers can work and cum too. Not all the time, but it's not forbidden.
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[QUOTE=Western787;1589459]True, especially if she's in the giddy early "in love" phase, a point where she's thinking about him 24/7 even while doing another guy at the Oil.[/QUOTE]Ridiculous speculation.
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Also the soapies are generally on the extreme edge of the scale as far as being Japanese centric. So you are generally not on the most favored customer list from the start. Now i suppose that handicap could be overcome by a Farang consistently frequenting a certain Soapy and earning a rep as a gentlemen and so forth, but it could be an issue at some level for new or low frequency visitors.[/QUOTE]The differences between some Soapies and Oilies is not great except for size of the establishment and amount of time spent in bath or equivalent. Some Oilies have bathtubs. Annie's is officially a Soapy but not that different to some Oilies. One reason for that is the limited time girls will remain in the selection area. This is rather non typical of a Soapy but more like an Oily.
Soapies are not generally Japanese centric. It's much more common to be Thai centric. Some soapy girls are preferring Farang over Iapanese customers.
There is not generally the possibility of calling a girl out for a drink and chat at most Oilies however this is possible at many Soapies and especially Thai customers like to do this. Could call out more than one girl for a drink and chat and then choose just one.
Any soapy where the girls can see the customers, there can be lengthy silent interaction. At Oilies there is much more limited time to pick a girl from a line up.
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[QUOTE=Franciscass;1589486]Of course there is, as indeed there is between a hairdresser and a dentist. I wasn't comparing professions only that a working girl does a job, spends a day at the office just as the dentist and the hairdresser does. You can debate the level of education or intelligence required for different professions and their status in society but they all deliver a service of one form or another.
I feel some guys mistake the physical intimacy of having sex with a provider with an imagined emotional experience. This may come from inexperience or a need to be liked but those of us who have enjoyed P4 P over a long period will realize the lady is working not making love.
A skilled practitioner will leave you with a feeling that you are special, you are a good lover and there is chemistry between you. This so called GFE is almost always simply a part of her skill set. This is not to say there isn't the odd cosmic experience for both parties or encounters that continue on to lifelong partnerships but at the end of the day P4 P is a service as is hairdressing and dentistry.[/QUOTE]I think WG's are like any other service provider and the analogy to a hairdresser is not so wrong at all. Or the waitress in the diner. They will service all their customers and if they are good at their job they will make the customer feel special because it increases the probability of him leaving a good tip. Aside from that they are first and foremost women. They meet customers they take a special liking to and look forward to seeing him again particularly when this customer is a regular. Usually it happens when the customer doesn't just look at them as as service provider but as a woman. This has nothing to do with the fact that they have a boy friend at home. Every woman wants to be desired and WG's are no different. When I lived in Germany I knew plenty of of WG's that after the session with a regular client made coffee and sat down to talk and exchange family stories. Or tell their customer about the new boy friend or the breakup with their old love interest. Many of the girls I knew where in a steady relationship and needed to supplement the household income because the old man was not making enough which usually meant that their sex life at home wasn't great at all and actually they got their needs filled with their customers.
My experience here in Thailand hasn't been any different. They also can become attached to regulars irrespective of who is waiting at home for them. This is maybe not so much the case when they are doing assembly line service in a massage parlor but those girls that are doing long time and overnights with repeat customers often develop a bond. With at least one girl here I have outlasted several boyfriends and in between picked up the pieces when the last BF had hit the road.
