Rants and WTF are you talking about and Coronavirus!

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2698982]In land of bullshits, I mostly trust my eyes, using them to choose. I also often laugh hearing most guys claiming to be business man. I don t remember if Kate was on business on the Saturday you waited for hours in couch.[/QUOTE]You said this below is wow woman type for your eyes few weeks ago, I think this old woman below is horrible for my eyes as well as many other guys remember?

[URL]https://www.itftennis.com/en/players/chloe-paquet/800312553/fra/wt/s/overview/[/URL]

So do not trust your eyes too much LOL!

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2699354].....I suspect that prior to the war, Putin also knew that the biggest threat the West posed was to his regime and not an actual threat to Russian sovereignty.[/QUOTE]Why would the West threaten Putin's regime?

[QUOTE=Turgid;2699524]Why would the West threaten Putin's regime?[/QUOTE]That's actually my skepticism also. I'm not particularly convinced that overthrowing Putin was at all a high Western priority.

However, that does not matter; rather, the thoughts of Putin is what matters. Western-Russian relations took a steep downturn after an optimistic beginning to the Putin regime when the US-led invasion of Iraq planted the seeds of danger in Putin's head. Saddam Hussein was a Putin ally then executed. Several years later, the brutal way that Gaddafi was overthrown, murdered by his own people, orchestrated by Western powers, fueled the fire even more as Putin saw another ally taken down due to Western influence. Finally the 2014 Euromaiden protests in Ukraine that supplanted Yanukoovych's regime was the final straw. Putin does not believe that those protests were organic, but rather due to intentional Western meddling.

One by one, Putin saw his allies get overthrown and felt that his day would come. It's no surprise that Putin heavily ramped up military activities after that. Look at Russian involvement in Syria and then Crimea. The current war in Ukraine is the result of a man who feels threatened, not one secure in his position.

So as McA suggested, Russia may be acting out of national security interests. However, unlike him, I don't believe that the West was an active threat to Russian security prior to Ukraine. If anything, we were a passive threat to the Putin regime due to our support for opposition parties.

But I'm no homer. All powerful nations are corrupt. Western corruption, as least American corruption is fueled by empty promises to the people in the form of various social justice distractions. Why is transgender issues such a prominent agenda? Are student loans actually ever going to be forgiven? Is the federal minimum wage being raised to $15/ HR actually a good idea? The conservatives are not even better. While I agree with their ideology, their tactics are more blatantly corrupt in the form of voter suppression and gerrymandering, or in Trump's case, outright bullshitting.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2699311]

Yes you want the quality as in car that do not break easily and go on forever, go for Japanese cars and some other products as well actually as Japan made got top quality.

You want speed and luxury, go for Italian cars, but mostly owned by german now so it does not break as before, but it still does and need maintenancing! Poor electronic!

And German cars are good targeting mid to upper market, but they had to merger to compete with toyota as VW consist of many car companies combined, but toyota is only toyota and as for lexus toyota founded and made ground up!
[/QUOTE]My 2 cents regarding German versus Japanese cars. Having owned BMW, Toyota, Honda, Volkswagen, and now a Mercedes Van, German cars are superior at the top end. And they are better when you own them in Western Europe with all of the maintenance and inspection laws. However, if you own those German cars in the United States where the laws for car maintenance are much more relaxed, their reliability is no better than any American car. In the US, you only have to pass annual emissions inspections and maintain basic safety like brake lights and headlights. Even if your brakes do not work, there is no one inspecting your car! Without the strict rules that forces you to repair everything on your car or in Germany where you must have the correct tires for winter and summer, the German car breaks down just as fast. But when I had a Toyota 4 Runner or Honda SUV and my family's Camry, I never had any issues. The 4 Runner went to 300,000 miles only having to repair basic suspension and other basic maintenance like brakes. The only reason the suspension wore out was because I would take it off-road in mud and water, keeping up with Jeep wranglers and trucks. We sold the Camry for $3000 after 350,000 miles and 20 years after only changing the water pump. I traded in my Honda after 50,000 miles for a used BMW 5 series which blew a head gasket after less than 2 years of use! And while I love my Volkswagen CC (which uses Audi engine parts,) repairs on it are a pain in the ass! It was made to be repaired by dealerships, requiring special tools and computers to remove many parts and reset the ECB. The Mercedes Sprinter van, well at 225,000 miles, I literally spent $10,000 having the engine rebuilt 3 months ago!

TLDR version:

German cars are great cars if you own them where you have laws that forces you to put money into regular maintenance. In more freedom loving countries, where car maintenance is up to the individual owners, their dependability issues are quite exposed.

Now, I would rather have a Lexus that gives me a happy combination of performance, luxury, dependability with minimal maintenance, and the ability to repair the car using only 3 uniform and universal socket sizes.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2699524]Why would the West threaten Putin's regime?[/QUOTE]Because Russia has and now proven to have the shit military LOL! Just big in numbers with non motivated bandit soldiers, no coordination, low tech 20th century weapons and early 20th century 1940's vintage military strategy and organization without up to date technology and no maintenance old weapons LOL! No wonder, russians are threaten and they fucked up so much that neutral sweden and Finland applied to join NATO LOL!

Now USA going to make Russia poor and in long lasting cold war, looks like USA won by making Russia just another North Korea with oil and gas that they can only sell to India and China with low ripped off price LOL!

[QUOTE=MrHo;2699448]You said this below is wow woman type for your eyes few weeks ago, I think this old woman below is horrible for my eyes as well as many other guys remember?

[URL]https://www.itftennis.com/en/players/chloe-paquet/800312553/fra/wt/s/overview/[/URL]

So do not trust your eyes too much LOL![/QUOTE]If you ever made a bit of sport, you should know what happen when you lose body water, but you can find other photos of her and if her twin was at Globe, I would go to her, even 28, rather than exhausting turning around and not finding any wow. Also, have you ever seen real top models without make up and hair made, I would not pay for many. Have you ever seen FKK girls arriving without make up, you can be scared of some. At least, a really good surprise when I saw arriving my Rhur German yesterday at 9.30 pm, with better hair, more woman look, than her schoolgirl hair style for business. When I always answered I'm not expert, when some claiming made me laugh when looking at them, when I'm too different, but when I have so many followers and here, reading all of me, who want to know who are my girls, who ask in clubs, I think I'm a reference for my tastes for beauty, when except elegant S5, German don't mean pretty for me, but I love my new Rhur German and even more after her: If you want, I start with you, in front of Germans at home, for French quality to treat women, even sometimes I think I go a bit too much, when 4 big shower squirts yesterday on 2 hours, but she seems to have pleasure, helping me sometimes to make her cum like on doggy yesterday, 7 times orgasmus yesterday. First German had to wait about 45 mn she came back after our 2 hours, but about 2 hours after we finished when she was not rushing to finish our room, but she asked me if I planned to repeat later with her. I preferred not because I didn't see how could get more than our real fireworks when she seems really happy we met again and played so much looking at my tool reactions.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2699354]I'll keep hammering and reigning it back to the details of the original conversation:

McA: Russia's actions may be explained by a Western threat to their national security.

Me: Russian doesn't have to be concerned about national security from a military standpoint because Western powers do not outright engage in military conflict with other powerful nations.

My point: Russia's security concerns and the argument that the West bears some responsibility by pushing Russia into a corner carries very marginal merit. Russia was losing the influence and economic wars and there was no legitimate concern of national security outside of Putin's concern that the West's influence in surrounding nations could garner support with the Russian general population. What keeps Putin up most at night is the threat of revolutionary mobs in the streets, not Western militaries.

To understand Putin you have to first remember that he thinks like a spy and not a general or a Parliamentarian. I suspect that prior to the war, Putin also knew that the biggest threat the West posed was to his regime and not an actual threat to Russian sovereignty.[/QUOTE]Putin was only a small agent, nearly nothing, not Jamesov Bondov, in KGB. But he has big nostalgia about CCCP, even he is very rich now, showing money don't buy happiness nor feeling good. Now he is rich and dirty after 2014 and again now. A dirty dictator. When China is not so far, when North Korea is nothing, but Western world should learn to live without dictators business and China is. We don't need Russia nor China to build strong economy.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2699108]All I know is that French cars suck, and I would never buy one LOL! There was a time when American cars sucked too, but they have gotten so, so, so much better. People stuck back in the 70's and 80's or something don't seem to want to accept this, but it's true. Americans, Germans, Japanese, and Koreans are producing the overall best passenger vehicles in the world today. And if you want some speed with style, then you can go Italian. But don't go French! For food maybe, but not cars LMAO! I never had any French girl pussy either! Haha![/QUOTE]We already had fakers writing without visiting but just reading and now we have jokers for US and Korean cars for quality. We really don't have same standards in US, Japan, or Western Europe for quality. Kia, Hyundai, US worth only because cheap cars for us. Even the biggest builder, but Toyota don't mean quality in Western Europe compare to Porsche for number 1 and now Audi considered as number 2, Mercedes having many Asian electronics problems so not so reliable than before and same for new Audi compare to late 2000 beginning of 2010. Ferrari, Lamborghini are exceptional art but You can't really use them for long on full power, they would not resist if owners were able to push, when I increased nearly 50% more power my old lady Audi and engine, manual gearbox and even clutch are still healthy after more than 600000 kms, mostly on high speed and I plan to change type of flexi gas and increase 95 P.S. On S5 elegant beauty and then I want we go to 1 million kilometers together when I will improve performances and balance to go for 300 on German autobahns legal parts. Quality allow such good game. When VW, Skoda belonging to VW, Opel, are less expensive than French brands, but many Renault, Peugeot and Citroën bought by Germans and the top level number 1 Bugatti is French hands made. At the moment, if I was not in love for S5 model 2007/2010 sophisticated elegant beauty with exceptional atmospheric V8 , to build ecological one, for car quality I would buy Renault Megane like my FKK beauty for years, RS 2 liters cup with around 330 P.S, our motorways police used and they loved it when they had mechanic problems and stopped with Subaru Impreza STI. Exceptional balance, a real karting, Audi S3 would not be able to follow on North Nurburgring. De which is the reference for cars balance, and not even sure RS3 400 P.S. Could follow in many curves. When resisted for close to 200000 kms to our police, but when they run after overspeed on our motorways, they are not as fast and not for so long time than me in Germany, between Basel, Dortmund and Aachen weekly, not sure engine could resist to my rhythm, but the perfect car for mountains roads, even S5 rocket I want to build could not follow the race car. Selling quantity don t mean being high quality, when beauty and of course balance, grip and performances made quality for me, versus lies. I wonder if I could join Dusseldorf and Frankfurt airports as I use to push with a Tesla, when I can go for nearly 800 kms full speed with my old lady resisting to Swiss Mercedes crashing in my back, only shock in my head, when plastic Toyota would have been destroyed and couldn't discover my wow Swiss beauty. Other lie about hybrid technology just worthing to go to buy bread. On German autobahns, I would have a snail not even reaching 180 , but drinking more than 12 liters /100 kms full speed when 50 kilometers less fast than old lady drinking only 8 liters, meaning big lie with hybrid when you really use, you pollute a lot and also with Tesla batteries when Musk would sell us our own shit, when he understood most people are sheeps believing what they are said. When you love cars, You can love some legendary US cars even not the best, You can love Skyline GTR, or Mitsou lancer for rallies but not made for autobahns, but except Celica Carlos Sainz, Toyota is mostly low level, like Koreans and 95% US for us, Western Europeans.

I met a German guy a long time ago. At the time he was not earning too much so he was driving a Ford. He kept explaining to me how stupid it is to buy expensive cars since the purpose is to get you from point A to point be. After a few years he was making more money so he switched to Audi. Following that for years he explained to me how Audis are so much better cars than Fords, but how stupid it would be to buy something more expensive. A few more years down the line he switched to BMWs, so he was droning on how superior BMWs are, great engines and fun to drive etc. As he got closer to retirement he switched to Mercedes, so now of course Mercedes are the best cars, much, much better than anything else. What is really sad that he has a neighbor that always had a better car than him, it must sting every morning when he leaves for work to see the car of this neighbor.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2699885]We already had fakers writing without visiting but just reading and now we have jokers for US and Korean cars for quality. We really don't have same standards in US, Japan, or Western Europe for quality. Kia, Hyundai, US worth only because cheap cars for us. Even the biggest builder, but Toyota don't mean quality in Western Europe compare to Porsche for number 1 and now Audi considered as number 2, Mercedes having many Asian electronics problems so not so reliable than before and same for new Audi compare to late 2000 beginning of 2010. Ferrari, Lamborghini are exceptional art but You can't really use them for long on full power, they would not resist if owners were able to push, when I increased nearly 50% more power my old lady Audi and engine, manual gearbox and even clutch are still healthy after more than 600000 kms, mostly on high speed and I plan to change type of flexi gas and increase 95 P.S. On S5 elegant beauty and then I want we go to 1 million kilometers together when I will improve performances and balance to go for 300 on German autobahns legal parts. Quality allow such good game. When VW, Skoda belonging to VW, Opel, are less expensive than French brands, but many Renault, Peugeot and Citron bought by Germans and the top level number 1 Bugatti is French hands made. At the moment, if I was not in love for S5 model 2007/2010 sophisticated elegant beauty with exceptional atmospheric V8 , to build ecological one, for car quality I would buy Renault Megane like my FKK beauty for years, RS 2 liters cup with around 330 P.S, our motorways police used and they loved it when they had mechanic problems and stopped with Subaru Impreza STI. Exceptional balance, a real karting, Audi S3 would not be able to follow on North Nurburgring. De which is the reference for cars balance, and not even sure RS3 400 P.S. Could follow in many curves. When resisted for close to 200000 kms to our police, but when they run after overspeed on our motorways, they are not as fast and not for so long time than me in Germany, between Basel, Dortmund and Aachen weekly, not sure engine could resist to my rhythm, but the perfect car for mountains roads, even S5 rocket I want to build could not follow the race car. Selling quantity don t mean being high quality, when beauty and of course balance, grip and performances made quality for me, versus lies. I wonder if I could join Dusseldorf and Frankfurt airports as I use to push with a Tesla, when I can go for nearly 800 kms full speed with my old lady resisting to Swiss Mercedes crashing in my back, only shock in my head, when plastic Toyota would have been destroyed and couldn't discover my wow Swiss beauty. Other lie about hybrid technology just worthing to go to buy bread. On German autobahns, I would have a snail not even reaching 180 , but drinking more than 12 liters /100 kms full speed when 50 kilometers less fast than old lady drinking only 8 liters, meaning big lie with hybrid when you really use, you pollute a lot and also with Tesla batteries when Musk would sell us our own shit, when he understood most people are sheeps believing what they are said. When you love cars, You can love some legendary US cars even not the best, You can love Skyline GTR, or Mitsou lancer for rallies but not made for autobahns, but except Celica Carlos Sainz, Toyota is mostly low level, like Koreans and 95% US for us, Western Europeans.[/QUOTE]Not trying to step on toes since I know you know your cars. You need to compare more apples to apples though. You need to compare vehicles in the same segment not compare a cheap vs a premium car.

American cars also only really excel in what they're good at. Making full sized vehicles. So suv and trucks. Cheap small cars were made to compete with same segment jp and kr cars. Full sized sedans we're another segment but it's being phased out.

BTW I'm not calling American cars as reliable as Japanese. But reliability is so much improved compared to a few decades ago. I feel like you should have seen that as you're an auto enthusiast.

Japanese reliability is still good, at least Toyota is. Reliability isn't simply the quality of base material used. Reliable parts don't break. That's being reliable. Just because it's made of cheap plastic doesn't mean it's not reliable. Not all Japanese auto is reliable either. I haven't been keeping up but Mazda and Mitsubishi weren't really known for being reliable.

Korean cars are really coming up but from what I understand there is still a issue of reliability of parts after 100 k. It's cool though. The improvement makes me excited for the future. Kind of like how USA auto has improved.

German auto is great for attention to detail and precision. Downside is the matter of reliability when a part becomes less precise. Other systems often become affected.

As they say in France or in the kitchen. Mise en place. Everything in its place. Or in this case everything has its place.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2699885]We already had fakers writing without visiting but just reading and now we have jokers for US and Korean cars for quality. We really don't have same standards in US, Japan, or Western Europe for quality. Kia, Hyundai, US worth only because cheap cars for us. Even the biggest builder, but Toyota don't mean quality in Western Europe compare to Porsche for number 1 and now Audi considered as number 2, Mercedes having many Asian electronics problems so not so reliable than before and same for new Audi compare to late 2000 beginning of 2010. Ferrari, Lamborghini are exceptional art but You can't really use them for long on full power, they would not resist if owners were able to push, when I increased nearly 50% more power my old lady Audi and engine, manual gearbox and even clutch are still healthy after more than 600000 kms, mostly on high speed and I plan to change type of flexi gas and increase 95 P.S. On S5 elegant beauty and then I want we go to 1 million kilometers together when I will improve performances and balance to go for 300 on German autobahns legal parts. Quality allow such good game. When VW, Skoda belonging to VW, Opel, are less expensive than French brands, but many Renault, Peugeot and Citron bought by Germans and the top level number 1 Bugatti is French hands made. At the moment, if I was not in love for S5 model 2007/2010 sophisticated elegant beauty with exceptional atmospheric V8 , to build ecological one, for car quality I would buy Renault Megane like my FKK beauty for years, RS 2 liters cup with around 330 P.S, our motorways police used and they loved it when they had mechanic problems and stopped with Subaru Impreza STI. Exceptional balance, a real karting, Audi S3 would not be able to follow on North Nurburgring. De which is the reference for cars balance, and not even sure RS3 400 P.S. Could follow in many curves. When resisted for close to 200000 kms to our police, but when they run after overspeed on our motorways, they are not as fast and not for so long time than me in Germany, between Basel, Dortmund and Aachen weekly, not sure engine could resist to my rhythm, but the perfect car for mountains roads, even S5 rocket I want to build could not follow the race car. Selling quantity don t mean being high quality, when beauty and of course balance, grip and performances made quality for me, versus lies. I wonder if I could join Dusseldorf and Frankfurt airports as I use to push with a Tesla, when I can go for nearly 800 kms full speed with my old lady resisting to Swiss Mercedes crashing in my back, only shock in my head, when plastic Toyota would have been destroyed and couldn't discover my wow Swiss beauty. Other lie about hybrid technology just worthing to go to buy bread. On German autobahns, I would have a snail not even reaching 180 , but drinking more than 12 liters /100 kms full speed when 50 kilometers less fast than old lady drinking only 8 liters, meaning big lie with hybrid when you really use, you pollute a lot and also with Tesla batteries when Musk would sell us our own shit, when he understood most people are sheeps believing what they are said. When you love cars, You can love some legendary US cars even not the best, You can love Skyline GTR, or Mitsou lancer for rallies but not made for autobahns, but except Celica Carlos Sainz, Toyota is mostly low level, like Koreans and 95% US for us, Western Europeans.[/QUOTE]I bet you've never even driven a Tesla or a Corvette. Despite saying you only believe your eyes, you don't even know it for sure by driving them yourself. Laughable. Hypocritical.

Every time the rental companies try to give me a Renault, I tell them I don't want that shit car.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2699885] ... but many Renault, Peugeot and Citron bought by Germans ...[/QUOTE]I guess it depends on your definition of "many". According to Kraftfahrt Bundesamt (drink the internet a little) in 2021 by sales volume first French car is Renault Zoe at position 29. Ignoring German cars, Fiat, Tesla, Skoda, Hyundai, Seat, Kia have models that sell better than the best selling French car.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2699599]So as McA suggested, Russia may be acting out of national security interests. However, unlike him, I don't believe that the West was an active threat to Russian security prior to Ukraine. If anything, we were a passive threat to the Putin regime due to our support for opposition parties.
[/QUOTE]Putin is worried that Ukraine will be part of the West and that ordinary Russians will see that allowing Grozny Pride correlates with higher GDP per capita.

I think the current American Left supporters are bunch of maniacs but compared to Putin and his Russian World they're the better option to the vast majority. That's how sad that country really is.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2699885]We already had fakers writing without visiting but just reading and now we have jokers for US and Korean cars for quality. We really don't have same standards in US, Japan, or Western Europe for quality. Kia, Hyundai, US worth only because cheap cars for us. Even the biggest builder, but Toyota don't mean quality in Western Europe compare to Porsche for number 1 and now Audi considered as number 2, Mercedes having many Asian electronics problems so not so reliable than before and same for new Audi compare to late 2000 beginning of 2010. Ferrari, Lamborghini are exceptional art but You can't really use them for long on full power, they would not resist if owners were able to push, when I increased nearly 50% more power my old lady Audi and engine, manual gearbox and even clutch are still healthy after more than 600000 kms, mostly on high speed and I plan to change type of flexi gas and increase 95 P.S. On S5 elegant beauty and then I want we go to 1 million kilometers together when I will improve performances and balance to go for 300 on German autobahns legal parts. Quality allow such good game. When VW, Skoda belonging to VW, Opel, are less expensive than French brands, but many Renault, Peugeot and Citron bought by Germans and the top level number 1 Bugatti is French hands made. At the moment, if I was not in love for S5 model 2007/2010 sophisticated elegant beauty with exceptional atmospheric V8 , to build ecological one, for car quality I would buy Renault Megane like my FKK beauty for years, RS 2 liters cup with around 330 P.S, our motorways police used and they loved it when they had mechanic problems and stopped with Subaru Impreza STI.[/QUOTE]Yet all ranking whether it is brand value, quality (The famous Kaizen system invented by Toyota for quality control that is taught in top global universities including Harvard university), the most numbers of cars sold and so on says Toyota is top and all world supposed to believe you.

As I already put links to prove it with fobes magazine and other google researc, I think and rest of the world think Forbes magazine and google are more reliable information than your low uneducated ignorant opinion of yours LOL! This is rational, you are being irrational being uneducated as usual! You are only showing how fool you are do you even realize this? Always talking about speed, speed, horse power LOL! We are talking quality, not speed and stop comparing toyota with ferrari or lamborghinni, it is different market and if toyota want ferrari or lamborghinni, Toyota will buy them out, but toyota don't want that market as it does not make money and we are not going to help them with quality level because we don't want to give away technology LOL!

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2699865]If you ever made a bit of sport, you should know what happen when you lose body water, but you can find other photos of her and if her twin was at Globe, I would go to her, even 28, rather than exhausting turning around and not finding any wow. Also, have you ever seen real top models without make up and hair made, I would not pay for many. Have you ever seen FKK girls arriving without make up, you can be scared of some. At least, a really good surprise when I saw arriving my Rhur German yesterday at 9.30 pm, with better hair, more woman look, than her schoolgirl hair style for business. When I always answered I'm not expert, when some claiming made me laugh when looking at them, when I'm too different, but when I have so many followers and here, reading all of me, who want to know who are my girls, who ask in clubs, I think I'm a reference for my tastes for beauty, when except elegant S5, German don't mean pretty for me, but I love my new Rhur German and even more after her: If you want, I start with you, in front of Germans at home, for French quality to treat women, even sometimes I think I go a bit too much, when 4 big shower squirts yesterday on 2 hours, but she seems to have pleasure, helping me sometimes to make her cum like on doggy yesterday, 7 times orgasmus yesterday. First German had to wait about 45 mn she came back after our 2 hours, but about 2 hours after we finished when she was not rushing to finish our room, but she asked me if I planned to repeat later with her. I preferred not because I didn't see how could get more than our real fireworks when she seems really happy we met again and played so much looking at my tool reactions.[/QUOTE]Well all other forum members were looking down on your woman taste with your wow type tennis player remembr? Or you forgot again?

Many people do not find this old woman type attractive, look:

[URL]https://www.itftennis.com/en/players/chloe-paquet/800312553/fra/wt/s/overview/[/URL]

It is not wow for most of good taste people, look at her face, she has no beautiful face at all, she just look old, she is eeewwww for me if I see her in FKK and there are many old ugly women like her in FKK, so lucky you, but rest of good taste people like us prefer more healthy fit beautiful young stunner level girls like this below:

[URL]https://www.google.com/search?q=victoria[/URL]+secret+models&rlz=1 C1 HVJB_enJP908 JP908&sxsrf=ALiCzsZ0 HLr1 M272 U8255 hJCJWG1 aLmhiQ:1653259611228&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2 ahUKEwiqzeT-l_T3 AhUSpVYBHb7 jCj0 Q_AUoAXoECAIQAw&biw=1600&bih=755&dpr=1#imgrc=q3 jlpOvmuFccbM.

See? They are young and healthy fit, no wrinkles like your ugly Chloe with strange old looking face that make her look even more old! I understand you very well that you like woman type as in old mummy type woman, but they are not wow for people with good different taste to yours, but it is what it is, so suit yourself with you taste and you fuck these old ugly woman type like Chloe old Ugly while rest of us fuck young healthy fit beautiful stunners LOL!