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[QUOTE=Optimist;1346129]One amusing occasion was when not only did I come in the girl's mouth but she accidentally managed to get it in her nose via the internal route. Once she got her breath back she thought it was funny. Not the normal way of removing come from the mouth[/QUOTE]That is a good one. I must work out how to do that one.
Maybe I get the girl to lie on her back with her head over the edge of the bed with her face facing upwards. I straddle her face and fuck her mouth until I come. Since her head is upside down then any liquid that enters her nasal cavity via her throat will go down by sheer gravity and then we get COME IN NOSE (CIN). LOL.
Thank you for the reply.
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1346265]Maybe we should print this out, hand it around to the girls and start charging them for facials. 250 dollars for a facial? Why I would gladly do it for half the cost.
From NY Mag.
[url]http://nymag.com/news/intelligencer/56941/[/url]
AM[/QUOTE]Now you know where I am working Angus! In fact my travels to FKKs in Germany are purely professional.
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[QUOTE=Ham Jim; 1346057]Gentleman,
I will be arriving Frankfortat7 am and leaving 10 PM same day (Thursday). This stop to visit FKK.
My question to the pros, do I need to book a hotel or should I just go to the FKK.
Second, what is the best place for morning crowd. I have been to Oase and Mainhattan in the past. I like Oasis more but never went this early in the morning.[/QUOTE]Why would you book a hotel if you are not sleeping over? Just leave your bags at the airport or train station. I have no idea what it is like at 9 AM or whatever but I have been there around 1 PM and it was awesome.
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[QUOTE=Sucker17;1346299]Now you know where I am working Angus! In fact my travels to FKKs in Germany are purely professional.[/QUOTE]S17.
I thought you were in the drilling-industry, LOL.
Nille
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[QUOTE=Smoky Jack;1346300]Why would you book a hotel if you are not sleeping over? Just leave your bags at the airport or train station. I have no idea what it is like at 9 AM or whatever but I have been there around 1 PM and it was awesome.[/QUOTE]You would not be in the club at 9AM anyway. Oase opens at 10AM and Mainhattan opens at 11AM.
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[quote=captcabin; 1339655]it seems that there is no thread that mongers share on the secrets or rather the unwritten law among the ladies of the night. perhaps we could too should talk like the girls would talk with mongers. some of the things i have gathered from oase girls (well most romanian and maybe 2 moldovan) :-
a) the german girls are snobs towards the romanian and secretly they hate each other.
b) no 1 rule never steal a customer but you can steal a regular.
c) the girls have sort of a list (well she said they know) which client has a lot of money and spend on a regular basis.
d) most girls (well actually all the girls i talked with) say they feel nothing with the client. sex feels nothing. talk is also nothing. just get in spend 15 minutes then 50 euro.
the) interesting to wht i read in report here. the girls don't want to cum not because they don't want to feel tired or anything but inside their mind they want this to be bussiness and not pleasure. the men are not their lovers and they are just pr0stitute. so sex is not meant to be enjoyed. the girls would call sex as "fuck" simply because it is just an action. they feel it is stupid when men ask them to make love because there is no love just fuck.
e) most girls prefer young fat men compared to old men. young fat men don't smell and can't fuck long and usually gentle.
f) the girls know most men lie about their occupation and marital status. one girl told me she had a client who says he is a doctor and she saw him in the city as a cab driver (he sees her every month though).
g) old men have weird fantasies and it scares the girls especially young ones. some fantasy that i have heard is choking the girl ([url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] fantasy) , asking the girl for rimming, fingering the mans bum hole (50 euro for this service) , spanking the girl on his lap and the most bizarre a guy actually as a girl to fart on his face lol. wth rite!
anyway those are some weird or talks i had with a working girl. i don't know if others find it amusing or not but if you want to share some experience please do. lol.[/quote]a.) yes, i can see the love-hate relationship between german girls and romanian girls. you can see the looks of disdain by german girls at the noise and chaos made by the romanian girls in the club and then you hear the romanian girls giggling amongst themselves at how the german girls cannot buy nice italian fashion designs since they are too big boned, broad shouldered and too large for the slim styles.
b.) yes, i hear the stories of girls that try to steal a regular client from another girl. this is linked into your point c if that regular client has a decent budget to spend on the girls each time he is in the club.
c) the girls spend a lot of time in the club, bored so they spend a lot of time seeing who is going with whom and for how long. they work out a minimum spend and put other pieces of information together for extras and likes / dislikes so that it can be used for later.
i mean i just mentioned to a girl trying to get me to go to a zimmer that i just had anal sex so i was not up for another fuck just yet and i did not even mention who i fucked. then 10 minutes later i get the girl i fucked in her tight asshole coming up to me saying she had been talked to by a girl who knows she had been fucked in her ass.
d.) yes, sadly this the case. these are pretend girlfriends. nothing is granted beyond the time slot that you pay for. girls tell me that they think about something else when they are getting fucked or having daty performed on them. they think of their shopping, the ceiling, their laundry, their car repairs. they save their come for their boyfriends (see h below).
e) yes, this makes sense. explains why young fat men are so popular in the clubs and they feel like they are popular too when you talk to them. they are like the coolest.
f) yes. i hear this one all the time. the taxi driver, the dustman, etc. all go to the club and say they are something else. hey, they got euro. let them live the dream. they got wives and family. girls say she tell their wives or family unless they pay money. i recommend you call their bluff.
g) what? you mean you don't do this too? you meat and potatoes man.
h) other discussions are which girls are pimped or have boyfriends that they give all their money and which girls are under a revenue share (around 20%) for protection. how much they need to pay off the boyfriend. some girls quote 8000€ to 25-30, 000€. i hear even more sometimes and each year that they work. i hear that lower end 8000€ is usually for the introduction to a club and getting them set up in a flat and the boy drives them to the club and picks them up. girls see this as not a pimp and gladly pay it off since straight after they work free and make the money to buy that apartment in their home town in romania. problem is when the girl gets a boyfriend who make her work.
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Girl chat continued
I) Another point that the girls talk about is the small rivalries between Romanian girls that have protection or a boyfriend and those girls that have no protection / boyfriends or work free. For example, a protected girl hates another girl working free since she has a good regular customers, so she goes telling the other girls that she fuck no condom. As you expect the story comes back to her and she worried she lose her job and also the customers. The working free girl usually cannot complain since she has no man to sort the problem out with the other girl. That is what you get for revenue share with man. Sometime you have the problem with your car when you come out of the club. So some girls they move on to another club. It is better.
J) Entry level affiliated men that come to the club looking to recruit girls that are new and work free, offering them companionship and some help with their work. Usually identifiable with emblems.
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Girl Chat
The discussion is pretty accurate, although my experience is a little more positive as to the character of the girls.
B) Sometimes girls do try to steal a good customer from another girl, but normally they will try to make sure the regular girl / customer meet up. Sometimes girls see me arrive and immediately come to tell me that my "favourite" is busy but I should wait for her, or they run off to find my favourite to tell her I have arrived.
C) Nice story Yakob. Some girls go into enormous detail about their customers, but not to the extent of revealing anything about themselves or what they do in the room. One thing some girls share is whether ir not a customer is "nice" and respectful (obviously most of this does not apply to the sharks who think only of the money and nothing else at all). I recently went with a girl (let us say X) who repeated to me a conversation I had 18 months previously with another girl (Y) at a time when I did not even know of X's existence: basically it indicated that I was known to be a decent customer and X had logged it for her future reference.
D) Some girls do genuinely like many of their customers. However if you ask them they will of course say NO. After all why should they talk to you about this until / unless you become a regular. Some girls do not like anybody. One girl told me she thought about the shopping when she was having sex with her man at home! If they like the customer sometimes they will tend to give free time, or meet outside the club, or take telephone calls etc. But this can of course be a slope leading to complications for all.
I) yes, sometimes a bad girl will spread a rumour that a successful girl is working without a condom.
Additional point. Some girls will tell you anything except the truth if you ask too many questions. They will lie about birthdays, city of origin, age etc. A 50E session obtains the hire of a body for 30minutes, not their feelings, thoughts, or soul.
All part of the fun. But helpful to know the social rules in such a complex environment
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[QUOTE=Optimist; 1346594.]
Additional point. Some girls will tell you anything except the truth if you ask too many questions. They will lie about birthdays, city of origin, age etc. A 50E session obtains the hire of a body for 30minutes, not their feelings, thoughts, or soul.[/QUOTE]Good point we are well served to remember. I'm not suggesting others here do otherwise, but I personally always treat these girls with the utmost respect. I wouldn't want their job, and I'm happy for their service. I try to be kind to make it as pleasant as possible for them. Of course every so often you run into a real *****, in which case I happily let her know.
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[QUOTE=Optimist;1346594]I) yes, sometimes a bad girl will spread a rumour that a successful girl is working without a condom.[/QUOTE]Some of you might have heard this exact same story already (it came from a girl) :
Guy G asks girl L1 for a session and they go to the room. He explains he needs BBFS and she refuses. Session does not happen and she leaves. Then she sees G go to girl L2. They go to the room and then come straight back out again. L1 checks with L2. L2 confirms he only would session with BBFS. G approaches girl L3. Same thing happens again. Finally G takes girl L4 to the room and they have a very long session. L1, L2, and L3 are chatting amoung themselves."Wow obviously L4 is doing sex with no condom." Of course its feintly possible that something else occurred. Later G sessions with L4 again after some more refusals. What a surprise!
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Customer relations
[QUOTE=Optimist;1346594]D) Some girls do genuinely like many of their customers. However if you ask them they will of course say NO. After all why should they talk to you about this until / unless you become a regular. Some girls do not like anybody. One girl told me she thought about the shopping when she was having sex with her man at home! If they like the customer sometimes they will tend to give free time, or meet outside the club, or take telephone calls etc. But this can of course be a slope leading to complications for all.[/QUOTE]This is a problem.
It can be quite easy picking up the emails and handy numbers of the girls. Sometimes you do not know what to do with them.
You feel the obligation to go with these girls everytime you in the club. You get SMS when they know you may be coming (e. G. 1-3 days before) but nothing when you say you are taking a break from the clubs.
One of my friends, one day he just go to his handy and he delete them all. He say, it waste his time when they girls ring him and aks when he come to the club or if they can come see him in his home or when will they see each other again. It funny since the girls keep his handy number and they ring him. So he had to go change his number.
Then there are the girls that genuinely do keep in contact with you like a pen friend. You talk about your real lives and your troubles and triumphs. You make a friendship. But mostly these girls are professionals and it is all about the business and maximising the wallet that they take from you.
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[QUOTE=Sybarite2006;1346277]Talking about coming in a girl's mouth got me remembering the time after a really long session with Saskia of Palace I had her kneeling in front of me on the bed as I jerked off and, since it'd been a while since I'd come, I shot a massive load into her mouth and she gagged slightly and swallowed some! She said you got me in the throat. She is a girl who will suck every last drop. Drinking a lot of fruit juices makes your come taste sweet-in fact one time the same girl said to me, 'do you drink a lot of pineapple juice because I can taste it in the sweet taste of your cum! '[/QUOTE]The girls that swallow my come as opposed to CIM say that my come is okay or even sweet tasting. I am not expecting honey sweet but at least pleasant enough. It is say after the third or fourth come and she take it in her mouth to swallow the sperm she say the taste was not so good. I think we were down to the dregs from the sperm banks and the semen sacs. I really like it when the girl swallow the come since it is more intimate and it really feels like the girl "accepts" the man. We are forever looking for the high mileage girl friend experience in this pay sex scene.
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[QUOTE=Yakob; 1346455]I) Another point that the girls talk about is the small rivalries between Romanian girls that have protection or a boyfriend and those girls that have no protection / boyfriends or work free. For example, a protected girl hates another girl working free since she has a good regular customers, so she goes telling the other girls that she fuck no condom. As you expect the story comes back to her and she worried she lose her job and also the customers. The working free girl usually cannot complain since she has no man to sort the problem out with the other girl. That is what you get for revenue share with man. Sometime you have the problem with your car when you come out of the club. So some girls they move on to another club. It is better.
J) Entry level affiliated men that come to the club looking to recruit girls that are new and work free, offering them companionship and some help with their work. Usually identifiable with emblems.[/QUOTE]A.) German girls feel usurpated by the Romanian girls who usually are more available also for fun or for spending time with customers intstead being simply business like.
Then not all German girls are like that, I know some who spend time with customers and who like to talk with Romanian girls as well.
The same for Romanian girls, my favorite girl in World is Romanian and she is not into drinking with clients, she does not have many friends between the Romanians' lines but a handful and she does not mind eventually talking with a couple of the German girls. But then she also usually does not like to even sit close to the german girls who enviously look at her perfect body, LOL!
B.) This is a matter of fact, I am such kind of customer in a certain club. Many times happened that girls tried to convince me that they were better than my favorite, that my favorite was telling me lies, that she has boyfriend or children, that she fucks without condom, etc. Etc. But all that did not distract me from my favorite at all as far as I already know that all these things may be true or not but I simply go with her when I am in that club because she has the perfect body for me, she has a brain and gives me the time I like.
Lat attempt the girls tried to take me away from my favorite was a kind of reverse psychology. Some girls went to my favorite telling her stories about me and my life trying to convince her that I was not a recommendable customer. Ok then, I can understand that as of today everygirl would like a regular who gives her everytime he is in the club no less than €300 but usually also €500 or 700 like I am, but there is a limit to decency and dignity!
C) Girls usually always know everything about the regular customers and they are always trying to collect as much infos as they can in order to understand if the customer is really worth and how could be the best approach to steel him away from his favorite girl.
One time a girl came to me and asked steaightforward how much was I usually spending on my favorite and when I told her I was not going to pass this information she started to complain because there were not so many infos around about me (many girls still do not know even my nationality) because my favorite has not so many friends there and never talks about me. I gave a tip to my favorite that day for that, I like when a girl does not share my personal data with the entire club!
D.) That's sadly most of the times true and it has been confirmed to me many times but very different girls that I know since long. There are few simptoms that may indicate something different and there are these indicated by Optimist. My favorite, even during a busy Saturday spends a lot of time with me unpaid and outside the room intead going roaming the club and making money. So when they start to not think only to money, either from you forcing to go to the room or money they could make with others and spend instead a lot of time with you then maybe there is a hint of genuinity in the relation between you amd the girl.
But in my opinion, never forget why the girls are in the club.
E) True, even if sometimes girls refuce when the boys are too "wide". These are the few girls who are either on very high demand or still have a little bit of self-respect left over.
F) Never been subjected to such bluffs, maybe because I am always straight forward about the fact that I have no wife, children or girlfriend as far as I am a workaholic and I enjoy too much, at my still reasonably young age, the fun and variety I have in the fkks.
As per the fake stories of the men about their lives, I really do not understand that, do they really think they will be more respected by the girls for that? Mah.
G) I am a meat and potatoes man as well, LOL! However, it is true, many girls refuse to go with the oldest man because their requests often sound really weird to them. I also heard incredible stories and I must admit that I undestand the girls.
H) Pimps are a reality, call them as you prefer but maybe 95% of the girls have one of a kind, including german girls and I know it for certain.
Yakob the prices you indicate are correct, it happened to me to hear the same and to hear that some customers paid the sum for freeing the girl which seems to me quite horrible in a civilized country like Germany but then, who said that Germany is so civilized, it is a wonderful fake world this of the fkks and sauna clubs, we should never forget this also.
I) See my comments under point B) above, but then the real problem are not the rivaleries between the girls but the pimps who make such moves like ruining your car in order to make clear to the free girl, why his assistance is requested.
As of today it is reasonably easy to get bareback sex in a club, myself know in the clubs where I am a regular who are the girls providing it and who are the customers who ask for it. I think that due to the lack of customers and the crisis, the rules like if you fuck without condom you are banned from the club softened in a certain way. That's the truth. I got the possibility over the last couple of years to fuck without condom in all the biggerst clubs but the girls who made the offer are still working regularly and without any problem.
J) This is also something very tipycal, I usually keep an eye about the girls who usually hang around whith this kind of recruiters / affiliated and honestly do not go with them. I accept and my coscience does the same with cinical pragmatism the single pimp issue but not the pimp (and many others activities) corporation with emblems.
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[QUOTE=Yakob; 1346714]This is a problem.
It can be quite easy picking up the emails and handy numbers of the girls. Sometimes you do not know what to do with them.
You feel the obligation to go with these girls everytime you in the club. You get SMS when they know you may be coming (e. G. 1-3 days before) but nothing when you say you are taking a break from the clubs.
One of my friends, one day he just go to his handy and he delete them all. He say, it waste his time when they girls ring him and aks when he come to the club or if they can come see him in his home or when will they see each other again. It funny since the girls keep his handy number and they ring him. So he had to go change his number.
Then there are the girls that genuinely do keep in contact with you like a pen friend. You talk about your real lives and your troubles and triumphs. You make a friendship. But mostly these girls are professionals and it is all about the business and maximising the wallet that they take from you.[/QUOTE]My favourite kicks my ass if I do not write her for a few hours but only in the morning or in the evening!
Notwithstanding if I am in a meeting all day and notwithstanding if she knows that I am not back to Germany for a few weeks. That's club's love! Ahahahahahahahah.
However, it is true what Optimist said, sometimes it happens that a girl really likes a customer but however this happens very very seldom, we simply know that statistically exist this case but the truth is that most of the time the girl is taking good care of a good business in the form of a regular client.
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Just go, fuck and forget. You are making complicating things.
HB