Paris

Thanks WYBMG.

[QUOTE=WontYouBeMyGirl]BTW, if you stay that long, you may consider a mongering week end in another city in Europe: Amsterdam, London, Brussels or Prague are less than a few hours by train or flight.[/QUOTE]Yes, I think maybe Barcelona appeals to me the most....Or if all fails, Casablanca !

:-)

By the way, the reason I'm so eager to learn about the 'North African women' is that I come from one of the worst mongering places in the world - New York City.

1) The average age here is 32.

2) 97% of the women are slender and thin.

3) And they charge minimum of 250 to 300 dollars for 30 minutes, generally.

It's absolutely ridiculous !

Furthermore, it is all very private. One has to make several phone calls before contact is made which kills the excitement for me. Besides, there's nothing I hate more than slender/skinny women. LOL.

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I'm looking for a woman who is 25 to 30 years older than me - (mid to late 50's)

A woman with a round and gentle face, with one or two wrinkles around the eyes (not too many)

A woman with big hips and big thighs that jiggle when she walks or undresses.

In my opinion, there is nothing more beautiful than this.

So yes, in other words, I'm looking for a nice Magrehbian 'mother'

:-)

Cheers,

J.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Mamasan? isn't that a "Vietnamese" Term? I guess it's ok to use it in Asia, but in Paris?

I always thought that "Madame Claude" would suit better LOL.[/QUOTE]

As anything is more interesting than speaking of the old fatties of rue Joubert or of the vans of the boulevards des Maréchaux, let us make some cultural diversion:

Mamma is of course Latin and refers to the old lady (mostly retired who.e) who is entitled in running a brothel. Before another syphilitic collaborationist retired wh.re did close the brothels in France, the law only allowed women to run a brothel.

San is the plain form of Mr or Mrs in Japanese. It is not as honorific as Sama and less familiar than Kun. Before WWII, the Japaneses did expand their culture allover the Pacific and brothels were the fleuron of their civilization. To my knowledge, Japaneses did not land in Viet Nam.

Madame Claude has been a famous matchmaker in the sixties and was the official provider of the government when De Gaulle needed to expand the military industry by exporting to the middle east. Given the level of these bars, even at 600 bucks for a handjob, I would not use any reference to Madame Claude!

If anyone can suggest a guide to the massage parlors of Paris offering erotic massage, I'd be grateful, and will report on my findings as I try them out.

[QUOTE=ProfPleasure]If anyone can suggest a guide to the massage parlors of Paris offering erotic massage, I'd be grateful, and will report on my findings as I try them out.[/QUOTE][url]http://www.parisrelaxation.com[/url]

It's only in French.

Nexxair

[QUOTE=Mufu]As anything is more interesting than speaking of the old fatties of rue Joubert or of the vans of the boulevards des Maréchaux, let us make some cultural diversion[/QUOTE]Hello Mufu.

But you are so lucky to live in a city with so many North African women.

Yes?

Hey WYBMG,

It's now definite, unfortunately. Because of commitments at work I will have to postpone my Paris trip until the end of May.

I am very unhappy but there it is.

My question and concern is: Will the vans still be there at Port de Clichy? I just hope they don't disappear in May/June.

If they do where would they move to? . Another 'Porte'?

Also, is it ever okay to ask a taxi about where the vans are or no?

Cheers,

J.

[QUOTE=Jonathan76]Hello Mufu.

But you are so lucky to live in a city with so many North African women.

Yes?[/QUOTE]

No! Definetely!

[QUOTE=Mufu]No! Definetely![/QUOTE]Hi Mufu,

But why ?

I've seen photos of women from Algeria and Morocco and many of them were attractive and beautiful. I visited Paris only once but that was many years ago with my parents when I was 13 so I don't remember.

The Algerian/Moroccan women in Paris are not good? Is that what you're saying? . Should I forget Paris and go somewhere else to find them?

J.

[QUOTE=Jonathan76]Hi Mufu,

But why ?

I've seen photos of women from Algeria and Morocco and many of them were attractive and beautiful. I visited Paris only once but that was many years ago with my parents when I was 13 so I don't remember.

The Algerian/Moroccan women in Paris are not good? Is that what you're saying? . Should I forget Paris and go somewhere else to find them?

J.[/QUOTE]Jonathan,

I think Mufu says no because the quality in Paris is not that high for the average monger. But as you are precisely looking for these kind of girls it is a good bet for you.

For instance, Casablanca is a good place to monger, as long as you are in the right hotel (most of them are not GF), but you will only find young girls! I've never seen there a girl in her 40s, most of them are 20-30max.

Anyway, every monger has his own preferences, and if you're not happy in Paris, you have lots of ways to be happy in another city.

WUBMG

[QUOTE=WontYouBeMyGirl]But as you are precisely looking for these kind of girls it is a good bet for you.[/quote]Thanks WYBMG.... And my apologies - I must be boring you to tears by now with all of my queries.

[QUOTE=WontYouBeMyGirl]Casablanca is a good place to monger, as long as you are in the right hotel (most of them are not GF), but you will only find young girls! I've never seen there a girl in her 40s, most of them are 20-30max.[/QUOTE]Yes, that's what I've heard. Another fellow told me that since I fancy older Algerian/Moroccan women I should go to Paris instead, and go to Barbes or rue Saint Denis or other places in the town centre. He said the street is full of them and that I would sincerely love it.

Take care,

J.

[QUOTE=Jonathan76]Another fellow told me that since I fancy older Algerian/Moroccan women I should go to Paris instead, and go to Barbes or rue Saint Denis or other places in the town centre. He said the street is full of them and that I would sincerely love it.

Take care,

J.[/QUOTE]Jonathan,

Since you seem hell-bent on finding out more on North-African prostitutes in Paris, I'm here to help :

First, check out this report I wrote a few months back and which is still largely valid : [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=505941&postcount=868[/url] (only things that have changed is that the hot Tunisian is gone, the hot Morrocan is back, a few new Algerians arrived and the place is generally packed with riot police - dont worry, they do not give a damn about our favorite hobby, they are just here to protect the nearby campaign headquarters of presidential hopeful Nicolas Sarkozy.)

Second, Rue Saint Denis :

Once the beating pulse of Parisian street action, poor old Saint Denis street is now only the shadow of its past grandeur.

However, if you are into Maghrebian women, you can still find something to make you happy. INMHO the best ones show up in the evening, from 8 PM till 1 AM, and it is not true that all of them are old and ugly (even though a fair amount of them are). You will find a couple of them (an especially fat one with enormous tits who might appeal to you) in Rue du Ponceau, a small dozen in Rue Saint Denis proper (especially near the small passage on 263, St Denis Street) and then a few more on Rue Blondel (a narrow street that intersect with North St Denis Street).
As a rule of thumb, do not expect any GFE from those girls. Some will even try to rush things. However, I have had some extraordinary GFEs from some rue Saint Denis North-African workers. But for that, you need both time (to talk, go to a nearby cafe for a drink, become a regular customer), money and common ground (ie. share some ethnic bounds).

So, it's hit and miss, but as a newbie here is waht you will get from Rue Saint Denis :

- a no frills session. CBJ+CF, end of the story.
- certainty not to get pickpocketed or mugged. These girls are strictly pro (however if you dont pay what was agreed upon, you will get your ass kicked by the bouncers, I've seen it happen).
- certainty to find at least one fat Algerian or Moroccon woman, any time of the day, which seems to be what you are essentially craving for.

Third : Porte de Clichy - Rue Rebieres

This has been covered by Denis and alt, so I wont expand any further. You can access Rebieres street by metro (Porte de Clichy, metro line number 13) + a 5 mn walk. The street is very quiet, since it is squeezed between the backwall of a large high school and a graveyard. Action is at its peak on weekdays from 12 am to 5 pm. As explained, women will just be seating behind the wheel, you approach them, agree on a price, the open the door and in you climb. No rip-off there, if you are into middle-aged Moroccans with big tits you will be happy as a king. 30 euros for a quick FS. A good spot for a meaty quickie IMHO.

Fourth : Place de Clichy - La Fourche

This area (different from Porte de Clichy) also has its share of Maghrebian street workers. Walk the Boulevard de Clichy between metro stations Place de Clichy and La Fourche and try to spot them. They operate exactly like in my post about Strasbourg St Denis (see link above). Near Place de Clichy you'll find the younger ones (not that many, usually 2), near La Fourche, the older ones (well, not older, just old, I've never tried but they look well in their 60s).

Fifth : Barbes

A word of warning: this area is know as "Paris'own little Third-World corner" and it is exactly that. So, to crawl the place, you need not be afraid of bulks of illigal immigrants trying to sell you counterfeit cigarettes while you exit the Barbes Rochechouart metro station.

The older North African prostitutes you talked about are to be found standing or sitting on the Boulevard Barbes, near a large bank (BNP-Paribas). I have once found a nice 35 year old Moroccan on the chubby side.For a 100 euros you can f... her as many times as you want, very GFE. However ALL other women I have spotted there are in their 60ies or even their 70ies and just look generally dirty. Up to you...

Sixth : the Internet

check this website : [url]http://www.niamodel.com/menuniamodel.php[/url]

It is a directory of escorts in France. Once you enter the website, click on the "Latines et Orientales" link and scroll their ads. "Latines" are Latinas and "Orientales" are Maghrebians.

Have fun.

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Algeria for Ever,

My gosh. Thank you for that wonderfully detailed post! . Now I'm really counting the days until May. LOL.

Just a few questions about Boulevard Barbes near the bank:

How long have these old Morrocan/Algerian women been there? . How many can I expect to find there?

Do they ever move to other spots or is Barbes their regular fixture?

Do we have to go to a hotel or do they have their own place?

Are they there during the day? . Do the police ever bother them since they are near a bank?

Is there really a market for these types of women?

Thanks again,

J.

Jonathan,

Please find hereafter replies to your questions about Barbes :

How long have these old Morrocan/Algerian women been there? . How many can I expect to find there?

They have been there for ever. Rumor even has it that in their younger days they used to work in the super-cheap brothels of La Chapelle (an area near Barbes that is know predominantly Indo-Sri Lankan) back in the 1960s-70s !

On a standard afternoon, there will be 6 or 7 of them.

Do they ever move to other spots or is Barbes their regular fixture?

Well, they either : sit at a nearby bus stop, just stand there, or walk the Boulevard Barbes, between Barbes and Chateau Rouge metro stations.

Do we have to go to a hotel or do they have their own place?

They usually have their own place (a room or a small appartment in the vicinity).

Are they there during the day?

Yes. They blend into the crowd and leave when shops close, around 8 PM.

Do the police ever bother them since they are near a bank?

The police dont bother them, but be warned, they dont bother the junkies, counterfeit goods sellers and aggressive beggars infesting the area either.

Is there really a market for these types of women?

Honestly, I ask myself the same question. Seems they can stil find a few customers, mostly old retired North-african immigrants (senior men their age) and Black African immigrants with few spare change

(By the way, a word of warning to all Black punters planning a visit to Paris : most ethnic French street workers, especially in Saint Denis street are openly racist. I've heard many told me that they "dont do Arabs and Blacks". In rue Blondel, there is even an informal curfew : no SW is allowed to have Black customers after 10:00 PM. Apparently, gangs of young Blacks and Arabs have repeatedly caused trouble in the area at night, or so a hooker told me. However, if you explain to the lady of your choice that you are an American (or whatever) tourist, and are generally well-dressed and well-behaved, she's likely to change her mind.)

Algeria For Ever,

Very informative. Many thanks again.

One more point:

2 years ago I visited Tunis, Tunisia and went to the red light district just outside the medina on Rue Zarkoun. (For those of you that don't know, prostitution is LEGAL in Tunisia and it's restricted to 3 or 4 streets near the medinas which houses approximately 50 to 70 women)

Anyway, I had been told that the majority of prostitutes there were in their fifties and on the chubby side. Well, yes I found that most of them were chubby but the average age was around 34. Some in their 20's but most were in their early to mid 30's. I didn't find a single 'mature' women. Certainly no one near 50.

So my question is: when you say that the women on Boulevard Barbes near the bus stop, metro or BNP bank are in their 60's (even 70's) do you really mean 60's or do you mean 40's-50's?

Just curious.

Thanks,

J.

[QUOTE=Jonathan76]my question is: when you say that the women on Boulevard Barbes near the bus stop, metro or BNP bank are in their 60's (even 70's) do you really mean 60's or do you mean 40's-50's?[/QUOTE]When I say 60's (and maybe even 70's), I do mean 60's (and maybe even 70's).

In Barbes you can occasionally find a 35-55 year-old, but nothing to write home about (too dirty, too fat, too, too...).

Here is my advice to you as a tourist newbie : stay the f**k clear of Barbes. It is really one of the worst crime-ridden area in Paris and the quality of the women there is sub-zero.

Again, your best bets to find the 30-50 chubby North African women you're looking for are :

- Vans and trucks Rue Rebiere (30 euros for a quickie)

- Rue Saint Denis (50 euros for a standard FS, then, the more you're ready to pay, the more services you receive).

- The part-timers walking the Boulevard de Strasbourg (between Strasbourg St Denis and Chateau d'Eau metro stations) and the Boulevard de Clichy (Between Place de Clichy and La Fourche metro stations). (Hotel room for 30 or 40 euros, starting price for the girl 30 or 40 euros, then the more you pay the more you get and a GFE is very likely).

Important : I hope you know some French or Arabic, because most of these girls dont speak a word of English.