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[QUOTE=Mc Don; 1277210]You are mixing things up. Prices quoted in your post 1800 and 3000 and LT. There is NO ST in those bars. ST is available in blowjob row and few other perimeter Road bars but NOT in the Fields Ave bars. LT means the girl stays with you until the morning. It also means that you get AT LEAST 2 pops but its really up to her and most will allow more than that. If you are nice to her then you may fuck her as much as you like. Many times I have taken a girl at 8pm and kept her up to 5pm the next day. If you are nice most of them will want to stay with you especially if you are staying in a nice place, just hint that they can use the pool and you are already a great guy.

As for food if money is an issue why not send the girl to get some food. Don't worry she will be back, after all she wants a tip. Otherwise you can buy something on the way back to the hotel. Can't remember the price now but a whole chicken from a street vendor is ridiculously cheep. Another option is buy ice cream or bring chocolate they love it and its much more fun licking ice cream of her body or even better her licking it of yours.

By the way don't neglect the smaller bars. Gems can be had there for 1500-2000 peso LT and there are plenty good looking girls that can give any 3000 peso girl run for their money. I don't bother with the 3K girls simply because their attitude at times can be bad and why pay that much when you can get away with half of that.

If you plan to bar fine few times from the same bar don't be a cheap charlie, words spreads around quick especially if you are more demanding. Keep in mind what and how you tip home for service and try not to over tip but definitely show your gratitude.

Have fun[/QUOTE]Thanks for your feedback. It has been many years since I have gone to the Fields bars. For the past several years, I have spent most of my time on Blow Row and at perimeter bars. The attitudes of these girls seem to be better and the price is cheaper then the Fields Ave bars. But, based on your comments, I want to give Fields Ave bars a try again.

Let me see if I understand you correctly. Simply stated, the girls that work at the Fields Ave bars are expected to stay with you until the next morning? For example, if I bar fine a girl from Atlantis (with a green tag) at 8:00 pm for P3, 000, she will (is required) to stay with me until the next morning? What about BBBJ? At Blow Row, it is standard with sex. When I went to the Fields bars many many years ago, one reason I did not like it is becasue most girls did not want to give BBBJ. Will the girls at the Fields Ave bars give BBBJ as part of the service package?

I was in Bangkok in March and at the massage outlet, it was around $70 for 2 hours (2,000 baht). For the same amount, I could have a good looking girl in AC for all night....sign me up!! When I first went to AC 14 years ago, I was on a budget and I guess I got in the habit of going to BR and perimeter bars till this day. However, now, it is not problem or concern for me to pay P3,000 for a girl if she is going to stay all night. In addition to paying for a nice hotel room.

Some guys on this post have stated that girls from some of the Field Ave bars wanted to leave early and did NOT stay the night. Is that common? Based on your comments, I find this topic to be more interesting than I orginally thought. I wonder if other guys have bar fined girls at the Fields Ave bars and had girls leave only after a few hours, not knowing the girls are required to stay until the next morning and provide sex several times. Thanks for your feedback, I am sure this information will be helpful to many other guys also.

[QUOTE=Undercoverh; 1277315]Thanks for your feedback. It has been many years since I have gone to the Fields bars. For the past several years, I have spent most of my time on Blow Row and at perimeter bars. The attitudes of these girls seem to be better and the price is cheaper then the Fields Ave bars. But, based on your comments, I want to give Fields Ave bars a try again.

Let me see if I understand you correctly. Simply stated, the girls that work at the Fields Ave bars are expected to stay with you until the next morning? For example, if I bar fine a girl from Atlantis (with a green tag) at 8:00 pm for P3, 000, she will (is required) to stay with me until the next morning? What about BBBJ? At Blow Row, it is standard with sex. When I went to the Fields bars many many years ago, one reason I did not like it is becasue most girls did not want to give BBBJ. Will the girls at the Fields Ave bars give BBBJ as part of the service package?

Some guys on this post have stated that girls from some of the Field Ave bars wanted to leave early and did NOT stay the night. Is that common? Based on your comments, I find this topic to be more interesting than I orginally thought. I wonder if other guys have bar fined girls at the Fields Ave bars and had girls leave only after a few hours, not knowing the girls are required to stay until the next morning and provide sex several times. Thanks for your feedback, I am sure this information will be helpful to many other guys also.[/QUOTE]There is [B]NO REQUIRED[/B] The girls must stay. And there is [B]no 2 POP (minimum) [/B] Requirement either.

Once you have had sex (one time). There is little to nothing you can do if the girl decides to leave.

Really if the girl leaves period. There is little to nothing you can do. You can TRY to go back to the bar and complain.

Some will. [B]and some won't refund your BF[/B]. [B]but NOTHING is GUARANTEED[/B].

And Definitely once you have had ONE pop. If the girl leaves. You can count the bars on one hand, if any. That will do anything. The deed is done.

Remember the bars CANNOT force the girls to do anything. And now the bars are even more reluctant to do anything becos of all the "[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url]" implications and the fear of being setup for a Raid.

I wouldn't go thinking that you will be GUARANTEED all night or 2 or 3 pops.

Now will most stay all night. Yes. Do most give more than 1 pop. Yes.

But as far as it being a [B]requirement[/B]. NO. If you have sex and the girl really wants to leave. There is nothing you can do.

[QUOTE=Undercoverh;1277315]Let me see if I understand you correctly. Simply stated, the girls that work at the Fields Ave bars are expected to stay with you until the next morning? For example, if I bar fine a girl from Atlantis (with a green tag) at 8:00 pm for P3, 000, she will (is required) to stay with me until the next morning? What about BBBJ? At Blow Row, it is standard with sex. When I went to the Fields bars many many years ago, one reason I did not like it is becasue most girls did not want to give BBBJ. Will the girls at the Fields Ave bars give BBBJ as part of the service package?[/QUOTE]The "program" is that you barfine a girl for the evening. She is "yours" until some undetermined time the next day. What happens on occasion, is the girls give you one pop and then try to find some reason to "leave early", or act in such a way to make sure that you will send them away. Then when they go back to the manager they can always say that you told them to leave.

I haven't had either of these scenarios happen very often, but on occasion I have told the girl to leave, only because it was my choice.

When a girl did leave early or whined enough that I told her to leave, I made a point of politely telling her manager the next day, if possible with her in sight. To be honest I have also told he manager when I have met a girl I really liked that he had a good girl and she should be treated well.

I will echo the sentiments about some of the girls on Blow Row, not always the most physically attractive of the lot, but many times the total experience was above average!

[QUOTE=ThatGuy865; 1277335]There is [B]NO REQUIRED[/B] The girls must stay. And there is [B]no 2 POP (minimum) [/B] Requirement either.

Once you have had sex (one time). There is little to nothing you can do if the girl decides to leave.

Really if the girl leaves period. There is little to nothing you can do. You can TRY to go back to the bar and complain.

Some will. [B]and some won't refund your BF[/B]. [B]but NOTHING is GUARANTEED[/B].

And Definitely once you have had ONE pop. If the girl leaves. You can count the bars on one hand, if any. That will do anything. The deed is done.

Remember the bars CANNOT force the girls to do anything. And now the bars are even more reluctant to do anything becos of all the "[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url]" implications and the fear of being setup for a Raid.

I wouldn't go thinking that you will be GUARANTEED all night or 2 or 3 pops.

Now will most stay all night. Yes. Do most give more than 1 pop. Yes.

But as far as it being a [B]requirement[/B]. NO. If you have sex and the girl really wants to leave. There is nothing you can do.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the clarification.

[QUOTE=Sky Ryder; 1277388]The "program" is that you barfine a girl for the evening. She is "yours" until some undetermined time the next day. What happens on occasion, is the girls give you one pop and then try to find some reason to "leave early", or act in such a way to make sure that you will send them away. Then when they go back to the manager they can always say that you told them to leave.

I haven't had either of these scenarios happen very often, but on occasion I have told the girl to leave, only because it was my choice.

When a girl did leave early or whined enough that I told her to leave, I made a point of politely telling her manager the next day, if possible with her in sight. To be honest I have also told he manager when I have met a girl I really liked that he had a good girl and she should be treated well.

I will echo the sentiments about some of the girls on Blow Row, not always the most physically attractive of the lot, but many times the total experience was above average![/QUOTE]Thanks for the feedback. I will be back in 3 months and I will give Fields Ave a try with the new info I have. Considering the price is $36 to$71, with a reasonable chance of it being all night with a few pops, it is still a good deal compared to the other places I have been in Asia (e.g., Macau, I spent $125 for 1 hour at a sanua. Hot China girl, but not worth the price). AC is still the overall best deal in Asia for 24/7 sex with young (over 18) girls.

[QUOTE=Undercoverh;1277143]I was looking at the Dollhouse Group bars on you tube, and some of the "green tag" girls look really cute and a great sexy slender shape (my first choice in selecting a girl). However, I did not see these girls on my last trip. The Dollhouse Group bars are: Dollhouse, Club Atlantis, Crystal Palace, Tropix, Baby Dollos, PonyTails, and Cub Asia. Based on my opinion, the big 3 has the best looking girls in Angeles City and the largest selection. The big 3 would be Dollhouse, Atlants, and Crystal. The pricing is 1, 800 white tag, and 3, 000 green tag for ST. Sometimes, ST is after u get your first pop or up to 2 hours, which ever comes first.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't use those videos as an assurance that the women will look as good as they did in the video. The lighting is very flattering on stage and such. It's a lot different up close and / or in natural lighting most of the time. That's not to say that the women won't look as good, but I think on average most of the women don't look nearly as good when you take them out of the club. I have not taken from any Dollhouse group bar in awhile. I had a friend who took a spotlight type girl in other words a 3k pesos barfine recently and she stayed the whole night with him each time. I wouldn't get my hopes up too high about the quality in this group of bars. I think it's more hype and props than anything.

[QUOTE=Undercoverh;1277447]Thanks for the feedback. I will be back in 3 months and I will give Fields Ave a try with the new info I have. Considering the price is $36 to$71, with a reasonable chance of it being all night with a few pops, it is still a good deal compared to the other places I have been in Asia (e.g., Macau, I spent $125 for 1 hour at a sanua. Hot China girl, but not worth the price). AC is still the overall best deal in Asia for 24/7 sex with young (over 18) girls.[/QUOTE]I will ask you one favor. PLEASE STOP THINKING IN ANY CURRENCY BESIDES THE LOCAL ONE!

Don't mean to shout, but it really does help to forget that from which you came, and focus on where you are. While you are there!

Those comparison issues are at least in my opinion best reserved for when one is making plans to visit a location.

And yes I understand that you aren't "in country" at this time. All in good fun!

Sky.

Ps, I agree with you about the PRC girls in the Macau saunas. In fact the last time I was there during CNY, one place told us the government was making it VERY hard for the Chinese girls to work in the saunas. Maybe they thought it better they work the "racetrack".

[QUOTE=Undercoverh;1277315]I was in Bangkok in March and at the massage outlet, it was around $70 for 2 hours (2,000 baht). For the same amount, I could have a good looking girl in AC for all night.sign me up!![/QUOTE]Well, you have to account a MP has recover for running costs that a girl doesn't. A bar girl helps in feeding cash to the establishment with bar fine, drinks she generates by being there and so representing an attraction.

[QUOTE=Undercoverh;1277447]Thanks for the feedback. I will be back in 3 months and I will give Fields Ave a try with the new info I have. Considering the price is $36 to$71, with a reasonable chance of it being all night with a few pops, it is still a good deal compared to the other places I have been in Asia (e.g., Macau, I spent $125 for 1 hour at a sanua. Hot China girl, but not worth the price). AC is still the overall best deal in Asia for 24/7 sex with young (over 18) girls.[/QUOTE]I find my biggest problem in AC is the reverse. Many times becos I don't sleep in late, and like to eat breakfast.

I have to tell the girls to leave. A lot of times they either want to stay and sleep or just lay around all day watchin TV.

If you are nice to the girls. They will try to latch on and stay as long as you will let them.

It all depends on your approach, and how you treat them.

In my experience ([B]in the PI[/B]). The better you treat them. The better "GFE" you receive. If that is what you seek.

[QUOTE=ThatGuy865; 1277335]There is [B]NO REQUIRED[/B] The girls must stay. And there is [B]no 2 POP (minimum) [/B] Requirement either.

Once you have had sex (one time). There is little to nothing you can do if the girl decides to leave.

Really if the girl leaves period. There is little to nothing you can do. You can TRY to go back to the bar and complain.

Some will. [B]and some won't refund your BF[/B]. [B]but NOTHING is GUARANTEED[/B].

And Definitely once you have had ONE pop. If the girl leaves. You can count the bars on one hand, if any. That will do anything. The deed is done.

Remember the bars CANNOT force the girls to do anything. And now the bars are even more reluctant to do anything becos of all the "[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url]" implications and the fear of being setup for a Raid.

I wouldn't go thinking that you will be GUARANTEED all night or 2 or 3 pops.

Now will most stay all night. Yes. Do most give more than 1 pop. Yes.

But as far as it being a [B]requirement[/B]. NO. If you have sex and the girl really wants to leave. There is nothing you can do.[/QUOTE]Sorry, this is definitely a more accurate description. Rather then REQUIRED I should have said USUAL. Keep in mind prostitution is illegal in phils so even girls from BJ Row can NOT be forced by the bar to perform. Bottom line is NOTHING is 100% sure and there is NO GUARANTEES not just here but almost anywhere when it comes to this kind of sport.

My experience and I believe the experience of most other guys here is as described in my previous post. Almost all girls will be up for one pop on the night and another in the morning at the very least. Yes after the first she can leave and there is nothing much you can do about it, the bar is unlikely to refund your money even if you go back and ask for it as she has in their eyes done the job. As said above, the deed is done. IMO best thing is to let her go and get another girl. At the end of the day we are talking few bucks here no big deal providing you have learned from your mistake.

Bottom line is if you come across as a nice guy almost all girls will return the favor. Like you they want to have good time even though for them its a job. Lot of them work 6 nights a week so treat them right in public, make it fun give them the impression that they are on a date. Eat with them before taking them to the room. Go with them for a drink to another bar. Yes its little more expensive but if you want to minimize risk of a runner and build report with a girl then its worth it IMO. I do it most of the times anyway because I enjoy it myself, I simply enjoy building a bit more tension and momentum before the deed. Don't get me wrong you can skip all this and do what you seem to usually do as well and turn on the charm in your room too, that works too. The idea is for you to come across as nice whichever way you are comfortable. They do understand that it is easier being with someone that is nice and caring. Don't abuse them and don't try to hurt them or force yourself too hard. Talk to them, be funny, be friendly and once it comes to doing it they will return the favor. When doing the interview make it fun, joke about the naughty things you want done and suss her out if she needs to go home early for whatever reason. Some have kids to go back to. Some are local girls with families thinking they are working normal jobs.

Have fun.

[QUOTE=ThatGuy865; 1277740]I find my biggest problem in AC is the reverse. Many times becos I don't sleep in late, and like to eat breakfast.

I have to tell the girls to leave. A lot of times they either want to stay and sleep or just lay around all day watchin TV.

If you are nice to the girls. They will try to latch on and stay as long as you will let them.

It all depends on your approach, and how you treat them.

In my experience ([B]in the PI[/B]). The better you treat them. The better "GFE" you receive. If that is what you seek.[/QUOTE]You raise an interesting point I had not thought about. I am like you when it comes to not wanting to sleep in and wanting to eat breakfast. I really have no desire to buy the girl breakfast and spending the morning or day with her, I would prefer that she be on her way in the morning (so I can do other stuff and get ready for the new girl I will find that night). I will have to see how all that goes, but I will for sure be nice to the girls.

Of all the hookers I have been with in so many different countries, the filipinas in general are the most sweet and playful. They can still smile after having to suck and "F" so many different guys for a living while still living a poor shit life. Plus, some of these hookers are looking for love, their dream is to have some guy take them away from that and love them (most of the time their dreams never come true). I am still surprised how many of these filipinas will have sex with guys ("F" and suck) with no condom, just to make the guy happy. They overlook the risk they are taking just to make a man happy. Most of them are sweethearts in my book and I will always be nice to them. Thanks for your feedback.

[QUOTE=Mc Don; 1277863]Sorry, this is definitely a more accurate description. Rather then REQUIRED I should have said USUAL. Keep in mind prostitution is illegal in phils so even girls from BJ Row can NOT be forced by the bar to perform. Bottom line is NOTHING is 100% sure and there is NO GUARANTEES not just here but almost anywhere when it comes to this kind of sport.

My experience and I believe the experience of most other guys here is as described in my previous post. Almost all girls will be up for one pop on the night and another in the morning at the very least. Yes after the first she can leave and there is nothing much you can do about it, the bar is unlikely to refund your money even if you go back and ask for it as she has in their eyes done the job. As said above, the deed is done. IMO best thing is to let her go and get another girl. At the end of the day we are talking few bucks here no big deal providing you have learned from your mistake.

Bottom line is if you come across as a nice guy almost all girls will return the favor. Like you they want to have good time even though for them its a job. Lot of them work 6 nights a week so treat them right in public, make it fun give them the impression that they are on a date. Eat with them before taking them to the room. Go with them for a drink to another bar. Yes its little more expensive but if you want to minimize risk of a runner and build report with a girl then its worth it IMO. I do it most of the times anyway because I enjoy it myself, I simply enjoy building a bit more tension and momentum before the deed. Don't get me wrong you can skip all this and do what you seem to usually do as well and turn on the charm in your room too, that works too. The idea is for you to come across as nice whichever way you are comfortable. They do understand that it is easier being with someone that is nice and caring. Don't abuse them and don't try to hurt them or force yourself too hard. Talk to them, be funny, be friendly and once it comes to doing it they will return the favor. When doing the interview make it fun, joke about the naughty things you want done and suss her out if she needs to go home early for whatever reason. Some have kids to go back to. Some are local girls with families thinking they are working normal jobs.

Have fun.[/QUOTE]I agree with your concept on how to deal with the girls and the fact that there are no guarantees. I have been a ST guy for many years so doing the pre-sex stuff (food, bonding with them, etc.) is new for me. But I can see how that can add more enjoyment to the overall sex experince and make for a GFE. I guess with me, I already have to do that pre-sex stuff with my wife and girlfriend (not at the same time and of course they do not know each other) , so I like going to PI bar girls and getting down to business and after 2 hours, she is on her way. But I will give your approach a try and see how it works out.

You made a good point about the fact that is only a few bucks. For a night with a young filipina, it cost around $50 including tip. To most guys, including myself, $50 is nothing. So I agree with your comment that it is no big deal. Thanks for your feedback.

[QUOTE=Undercoverh;1278318]I am like you when it comes to not wanting to sleep in and wanting to eat breakfast. I really have no desire to buy the girl breakfast and spending the morning or day with her[/QUOTE]Same here. Usually I send the girl home in the morning with some tip, so she can buy her own food, before I take my breakfast.

Cheers!

Any moment now, some lurker will suggest we rename this the "breakfast" thread.

I like GFE, but have been in the mood of Ekspat many times. I've also regretted seeing a few excuse themselves after the morning session. I've even thrown out a few withoug shagging them just because their attitude changed so much during the ten minutes between bar and bed.

[QUOTE=Ekspat; 1278414]Same here. Usually I send the girl home in the morning with some tip, so she can buy her own food, before I take my breakfast.

Cheers![/QUOTE]

Has anyone heard anything recently about issues at Clark? Been hearing some rumblings about hassles using Clark. TIA