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[QUOTE=HarvestBoi;2347319] If it were me? I would book the apartment and maybe hire ABG to help navigate the security outcall situation if needed.[/QUOTE]And if it were me, I would book a hotel in Moema (best of both situations in my book), do my research, and save my money for other uses by being my own navigator. It's easy, and for me more enjoyable to go exploring on my own.
It looks like I will be visiting Sampa for 4 nights for final round interviews for a job in Pinheiros. I have been RTFF for awhile. If I do end up taking the job it is likely I will have a year before the family joins. 1 year of complete freedom to experience the local scene. I am trying to put together an itinerary for my trip to sample as much as possible in those 4 nights on a budget of about 800 reals and based in Pinheiros with limited travel time. I speak no Portuguese (yet). So ease and time efficiency are important. I am pretty omniverous sexually and lije everything from the gem value find to an occasional premium. I prefer GFE and attitude and no plastic. I will take that over a "10" or "19 year old" any day. Doesn't sound like I have to make that trade off here! I have never visited Brazil but have mongered in Korea, El Salvador, Costa Rica and the US.
I would love to hit a value clinica, strong clinical and maybe casanarao or a strong dupla. (I am thinking of saving the Scandallo experience for if and when I am there). Recommendations from the regulars? Casanarao, Brooklin and some value clinica? Maybe a recommended escort instead? I will report!
[QUOTE=BMo814;2347092]What's a better area in the boards opinion, Morumbi or Moema? I have 2 reservations one at an apartment in Moema and one in Hilton Mourmbi. If I read the Hilton is guest friendly which is the original reason I booked the apartment in the first place, thinking it may be easy to bring guess to the apartment then I read the ladies are a bit timid about coming to apartments so I'm leaning toward Hilton Morumbi but would like why'all opinion.[/QUOTE]Given the choices, there is no choice. Moema. Closer to everything you're looking for and easy to Uber in and out of during the day.
My personal preference is Alameda Santos, Bela Cintra, Jardins. But that is also just personal preference since I'm not much a Clinica guy. Independents for me thanks.
[QUOTE=GiuseppeBonera;2344763]I just wanted to report a great experience I had yesterday on photosaccompanhantes with bruninha:[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/capital/jardins/bruninha-baby-sou-uma-garota-pronta-para-te-levar-ao-delirio-id-hnbh8[/URL].
I was worried it was too good to be true because I had a bad experience before. But I saw she was verified and told her to meet in the lobby of the rennaisance. I waited at the door to see if she look like her pictures. She sent a what's up saying she would be arriving in a white jacket. Exactly like her picture! After she walked by I said Hi and got her registered at the front desk, the only negative part but the lady at the front desk was not apparently judging me. Anyway 1 hour 400 RS + 50 rs credit card fee and 20 rs Uber. Gave me a natural BJ and uphill from there. This garota is the real deal![/QUOTE]As long as they look discrete and civilian, there really is no reason to "register" them. She's simply a friend.
I was at the Renaissance this weekend and my girl and I simply walk in and we are done. Or she walks in alone. NBD.
I did see them give one guy a hard time about 5:00 am Sunday when he tried to get in with two GPS who looked like street walkers. Completely out of place for that hotel. Gente sem noção.
Job Reach.
[QUOTE=RonhinCruz;2347627]It looks like I will be visiting Sampa for 4 nights for final round interviews for a job in Pinheiros. I have been RTFF for awhile. If I do end up taking the job it is likely I will have a year before the family joins. 1 year of complete freedom to experience the local scene. I am trying to put together an itinerary for my trip to sample as much as possible in those 4 nights on a budget of about 800 reals and based in Pinheiros with limited travel time. I speak no Portuguese (yet). So ease and time efficiency are important. I am pretty omniverous sexually and lije everything from the gem value find to an occasional premium. I prefer GFE and attitude and no plastic. I will take that over a "10" or "19 year old" any day. Doesn't sound like I have to make that trade off here! I have never visited Brazil but have mongered in Korea, El Salvador, Costa Rica and the US.
I would love to hit a value clinica, strong clinical and maybe casanarao or a strong dupla. (I am thinking of saving the Scandallo experience for if and when I am there). Recommendations from the regulars? Casanarao, Brooklin and some value clinica? Maybe a recommended escort instead? I will report![/QUOTE]There is not much to do in Pinheiros, I recommend you stay in Paraiso, near to Av Paulista and largo Ana Rosa.
PM me.
ABG.
[QUOTE=RonhinCruz;2347627]
I would love to hit a value clinica, strong clinical and maybe casanarao or a strong dupla. (I am thinking of saving the Scandallo experience for if and when I am there). Recommendations from the regulars? Casanarao, Brooklin and some value clinica?[/QUOTE]I could give you a couple of recommendations, but why believe me when you have data?
[URL]http://www.gp-guia.net/forum2015/viewforum.php?listby=date&f=8[/URL]
You can see the price and BBBJ / DFK rates for each clinica based on many thousands of forum reports. For example, right away you can see that at Brooklin about 85% of the sessions include kissing while at Kahunas it appears to be less than 20%. Nevertheless (for some reason) less than 5% of guys marked their visit to Kahunas as "negative".
Some caveats about this data:
1. The "anal" and "oral" columns appear to be currently mixed up on this page. The real order is Oral / Anal / Kissing.
2. The price listed is for forum members. As a tourist you might have to pay more.
3. There is a bias for forum members to mark their visits as positive because they are given discounts. Consequently, figures are exaggerated.
4. Figures are also exaggerated because they only represent people who have written reports. If a tourist goes in, gets ripped off, and writes no report, his experience is not represented in this data. I also think a lot of quiet Asian locals get worse treatment here and write nothing about it. So, for example the 85% figure for Brooklin might not be accurate. It might be more like 50% overall. (My own experience is closer to 85%, but I take special care.).
Despite these caveats, I think this data is useful for comparative purposes. For example, the reported DFK rate at Yankin is only about 67%, and this matches my own experience so I don't go to Yankin any more.
The significance of this data goes beyond the technical quality of the sessions. If there's a high percentage of girls in a clinica turning down basic stuff like DFK and BBBJ, that could indicate they are unhappy in their jobs. We should not patronize any establishment where the workers are unhappy.
Here is the same list but for prives:
[URL]http://www.gp-guia.net/forum2015/viewforum.php?listby=date&f=9[/URL]
Guys here often ask what the difference is between a clinica and a prive. Well, the set-up is basically the same, but from this data you can see that the prives are cheaper and have worse service rates.
[QUOTE=JibReach;2347837]Given the choices, there is no choice. Moema. Closer to everything you're looking for and easy to Uber in and out of during the day.
My personal preference is Alameda Santos, Bela Cintra, Jardins. But that is also just personal preference since I'm not much a Clinica guy. Independents for me thanks.[/QUOTE]Thanks I'll probably look for a hotel in Moema or Jardíand like one of the other fellas says he likes. The apartment I booked on [URL]booking.com[/URL] looks cool but no safe and bed is only a double. Thanks for the input from what I read on the board moema looks like where I should be. Thanks again.
So went to Cafe photo last night since I was curious. Was not expecting to session as I had to work but stuff happens. I liked the idea of the girls not coming to me so I can chill and check out the talent. 150 to get in. For a Tuesday not bad with probably 50 girls an significantly less guys. I am very particular but found a Morena exactly my type. She quoted 900 rs I got here down to 800 rs no time limit at my hotel. She stayed with me for about 2.5 hours. One of the best I had. Will likely try Scandallo next week.
It looks like I'll be staying close to Bomboa at Hotel Mercure (Pinheiros). I'll be in town for about five or six nights on a work trip, with what will likely be an attentive local host who will be hyper-scheduling my time and a few business colleagues who will want to hang out with me, and I don't want any of them to know anything about my recreational activities. My guess is that I'll be able to have two or three adventures, but timing could be tight, and I might have to jump on short notice, without being able to schedule it in advance. I really don't know how much "alone time" I'm going to have.
It's my first time in the country. I'm lousy at navigating public transportation, and won't have the time to get lost, so I'm not keen on leaving Pinheiros.
So, a few questions.
1. Is there a clinica near that area? There's something called Clinica Caribe, but I searching the forum hasn't turned up any reports. (Are all clinicas monger friendly, or are some just for legit massages? And is it like AMPS, where you signal your extracurricular intentions in various established signs? If so, how?
2. If I found someone at Bomboa, would it make sense to bring her to my regular room at Mercure? Has anyone brought a provider to that hotel? (If my room is adjacent to my colleagues, I won't do this.).
3. I don't understand the fee structure at Bomboa or other clubs. Is it that you pay around 250 reals as a cover charge that you can then somehow exchange for food / drink? If so, can I use that fund to buy drinks for the girls?
4. Typically, if you want more time with a provider than an hour (say 90 minutes or 2 hours), how does that typically affect cost?
I'm not big into the club scene, though I understand it is special in SP and I should try to experience it at least once. Also, I'm relatively picky, and a little concerned that the clinica route might be uninspiring. Not knowing the language or landscape, the indie route has its share of concerns as well.
I've been reading the forum diligently and appreciate your insights.
[QUOTE=Polyamorist;2347916]I could give you a couple of recommendations, but why believe me when you have data?
[URL]http://www.gp-guia.net/forum2015/viewforum.php?listby=date&f=8[/URL]
You can see the price and BBBJ / DFK rates for each clinica based on many thousands of forum reports. For example, right away you can see that at Brooklin about 85% of the sessions include kissing while at Kahunas it appears to be less than 20%. Nevertheless (for some reason) less than 5% of guys marked their visit to Kahunas as "negative".
Some caveats about this data:
1. The "anal" and "oral" columns appear to be currently mixed up on this page. The real order is Oral / Anal / Kissing.
2. The price listed is for forum members. As a tourist you might have to pay more.
3. There is a bias for forum members to mark their visits as positive because they are given discounts. Consequently, figures are exaggerated..[/QUOTE]Funny enough I am data scientist Given all your caveats about the data I think your recommendations and others in this forum may be just as good. However, thanks for the link. I just got confirmation of my trip. I expect to be staying in hotel Mercure as well and have a full day Saturday. So any specific recommendations are appreciated. I am so looking forward to seeing Sampa girls in action.
Has anyone used this service? The women look amazing, but photos can be decieving. Its on the home page of the gpguia site I am trying to register on.
[URL]https://www.clubmodel.com.br/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/jardins[/URL]
[QUOTE=Jbj64;2348760]Has anyone used this service? The women look amazing, but photos can be decieving. Its on the home page of the gpguia site I am trying to register on.
[URL]https://www.clubmodel.com.br/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/jardins[/URL][/QUOTE]It's a legit site. But the photos are touched up.
If you find someone you're interested in look for their Twitter. Or just WhatsApp them and ask for the Twitter link.
It's one of the best and most trustlabe websites in Sao Paulo. Obviously the pics must have some photoshop treatment but the girls are all verified.
[QUOTE=Jbj64;2348760]Has anyone used this service? The women look amazing, but photos can be decieving. Its on the home page of the gpguia site I am trying to register on.
[URL]https://www.clubmodel.com.br/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/jardins[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SnarkHunter;2348153]It looks like I'll be staying close to Bomboa at Hotel Mercure (Pinheiros). I'll be in town for about five or six nights on a work trip, with what will likely be an attentive local host who will be hyper-scheduling my time and a few business colleagues who will want to hang out with me, and I don't want any of them to know anything about my recreational activities. My guess is that I'll be able to have two or three adventures, but timing could be tight, and I might have to jump on short notice, without being able to schedule it in advance. I really don't know how much "alone time" I'm going to have.
It's my first time in the country. I'm lousy at navigating public transportation, and won't have the time to get lost, so I'm not keen on leaving Pinheiros.
So, a few questions.
1. Is there a clinica near that area? There's something called Clinica Caribe, but I searching the forum hasn't turned up any reports. (Are all clinicas monger friendly, or are some just for legit massages? And is it like AMPS, where you signal your extracurricular intentions in various established signs? If so, how?
2. If I found someone at Bomboa, would it make sense to bring her to my regular room at Mercure? Has anyone brought a provider to that hotel? (If my room is adjacent to my colleagues, I won't do this.).
3. I don't understand the fee structure at Bomboa or other clubs. Is it that you pay around 250 reals as a cover charge that you can then somehow exchange for food / drink? If so, can I use that fund to buy drinks for the girls?
4. Typically, if you want more time with a provider than an hour (say 90 minutes or 2 hours), how does that typically affect cost?
I'm not big into the club scene, though I understand it is special in SP and I should try to experience it at least once. Also, I'm relatively picky, and a little concerned that the clinica route might be uninspiring. Not knowing the language or landscape, the indie route has its share of concerns as well.
I've been reading the forum diligently and appreciate your insights.[/QUOTE]As to clinicas near the Mercure not really. BUT Uber is super cheap here. An hour ride from the airport was under $20. So just hop an Uber and don't sweat it.
My preference is the Boates and U cannot go wrong with BomBoa which is literally a three minute walk from the Mercure. The entry is R270 and they give you a little wristband with a number. Each time u order they make you sign and they note ur number. Yes it is credited against the 270 but it goes pretty quickly. Drinks are R50 and if you get a mixer it's another R20. So R70 for a JAck and coke. Totally worth it tho. So much eye candy you won't know what to do. Oh and the food is excellent and not that expensive. I had a really nice Salmon and it was R85. Would surely be more in a restaurant.
As to the room, you could walk to the Mercure. But the on-site rooms are only R190 and very convenient. Great mirrors on ceiling and walls. Worth it to me. Get your girls number if you really like her and have her to your hotel for a longer session the next day.
As far as service and time you need to negotiate beforehand. You can use google translate. I didn't discuss service with my first girl and got CBJ (boo) and my second we discussed BBBJ and CIM ahead. I have a small advantage speaking some Portuguese but I am sure google translate will work.
Full report forthcoming but hopefully this helps for now.
[QUOTE=GiuseppeBonera;2348150]So went to Cafe photo last night since I was curious. Was not expecting to session as I had to work but stuff happens. I liked the idea of the girls not coming to me so I can chill and check out the talent. 150 to get in. For a Tuesday not bad with probably 50 girls an significantly less guys. I am very particular but found a Morena exactly my type. She quoted 900 rs I got here down to 800 rs no time limit at my hotel. She stayed with me for about 2.5 hours. One of the best I had. Will likely try Scandallo next week.[/QUOTE]Is Cafe Photo that pricey or was it just the length of time. I did have a Casarao girl last year tell me she used to charge 1000 at Cafe Photo. Seems so high. My datapoints so far (and I'm sure there are those that will accuse me of overpaying) are:
Scandallo 700. Bomboa 2 at 600 and 1 at 500. All were super good looking 8.5+ material.