German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[QUOTE=RogueNation;2168113]At XXL: So nothing. That was a response to PM who suggested that supply to clubs was organized and RLD is different. It is not.[/QUOTE]Yes, RLDs, FKKs, Laufhauses, same recruitment pool. Girls switch between places and between countries.

I know a girl in a Laufhaus in Bavaria whose sister works at FKK World. She herself dislikes FKKs, so she says, because FKKs imply BBBJs and she only does CBJs.

Some girls are less social and prefer a Laufhaus or a Club rather than an FKK.

On the whole girls have 10 times more mobility and choice of venue than afforded by most normal jobs. Of course SJWs will twist this into proof of trafficking ("girls ordered hither and thither by pimps", "girls mere pieces on a chessboard" etc.).

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2168216]Ok guys, so I fairly regularly post long reports on my experiences in FKKs. Only this weekend a report on Paradise / Oase and Mainhattan.

In about a month's time I have 4 nights before I arrive in Frankfurt. I'm putting out a request for some advice on where to go. I've done all the main clubs Sharks / Oase / Mainhattan / Palace / World / Samya / LR / Oceans / Paradise / Sakura / Artemis / Harmony / Atmos / LR / Sunshine many times.

I'm wondering if I should venure to 4 new clubs on 4 consecutive days and wanted to ask where you think I should try on those 4 days before ending up in Frankfurt.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Looks like you've hit all of the obvious clubs except Goldentime. Wide variety of women of many ages and still the most diverse nationalities. It's become a staple so you should at least visit it once to see if it fits your style.

Many will recommend YinYang, the Dutch club in Roermond on the Dutch-German border. The facilities and food are top notch but the line up is average for me. Plus for you: no smoking in the club.

I remember recommending Acapulco to you before so you can always try that. Remember, dirty club, shit food and girls are cold outside the room. Strict no approach atmosphere. Many great service girls and cheap at 40 euro. Also a plus for you is the no indoor smoking policy although the escape from smoke is replaced by the smell of stale [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] in the shower areas.

A lesser visited place is Finca Erotica in Dierdorf near Koblenz. It's midway between Frankfurt and Cologne, a 1 HR drive from each and probably a super pain in the ass to reach via public transport. Optics are slim but there are usually 2-3 girls that could compete in the Frankfurt clubs. I've never had a bad room there. The only concern is that it is owned by the same group as Mainhattan and World so BBBJ may be a problem. I haven't heard any recent intel about that.

Best of luck.

Payforit: In addition to Samson Mongers 4 club choices, you also have SixSense near Aachen on the dutch side. Good service club and if you are lucky you also find one or two lookers too.

Then you have Paradise in Saarbrucken which I haven't been to, but I know can attract some good girls. You also have Dolce Vita in Dusseldorf, and although it is well known for upsells, it can have lookers too.

To me, YinYang and Acapulco (girls are not really cold outside the room. They just have a no approach policy) would be a must if I wanted to check out 4 new clubs from your standpoint of previous clubs. For the last 2 I would be more undecided between the last 5 mentioned by me and Samson. Maybe Babylon Elsdorf should be added too. I know one great girl there also, but choices are not spectacular otherwise from what I can tell.

I assume you won't be going to other regions, so that's about it I guess. Other clubs like Mondial, Great Palace, Magnum, Villa Vertigo in nrw are not very high on my list at the moment due to reports lately. But you might want to check up on Austria / Slovenia also one day.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2168216]Ok guys, so I fairly regularly post long reports on my experiences in FKKs. Only this weekend a report on Paradise / Oase and Mainhattan.

In about a month's time I have 4 nights before I arrive in Frankfurt. I'm putting out a request for some advice on where to go. I've done all the main clubs Sharks / Oase / Mainhattan / Palace / World / Samya / LR / Oceans / Paradise / Sakura / Artemis / Harmony / Atmos / LR / Sunshine many times.

I'm wondering if I should venure to 4 new clubs on 4 consecutive days and wanted to ask where you think I should try on those 4 days before ending up in Frankfurt.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Over a month ago I had a great time at GT Aca & YY. Aca can be strange the first time. Feels like checking out hot chicks in a graveyard!

I haven't been in Finca since last November but there was no problem with "service as before".

[QUOTE=Polyamorist;2168190]The German government is blameworthy: while pretending to be against pimping, it has greatly strengthened the power of the shadowy middlemen by stopping the FKKs from setting their own rules, thus driving the "management" underground. Something analogous has been going on in the US with the suppression of sites like backpage. Independents suffer, so we mongers also suffer.[/QUOTE]I don't share that opinion. Pimping has no relation to stopping clubs from setting rules for the girls.

There's an easy legal solution: Girls get employed by the clubs. That's legal. If they are employees the employer can set all the rules. But he has to pay social benefits plus taxes. And the girls would have to do the same. Not really their interest. So it sticks to the freelancer model with all its implications.

[QUOTE=XXL;2168237]Yes, RLDs, FKKs, Laufhauses, same recruitment pool. Girls switch between places and between countries.

I know a girl in a Laufhaus in Bavaria whose sister works at FKK World. She herself dislikes FKKs, so she says, because FKKs imply BBBJs and she only does CBJs.

Some girls are less social and prefer a Laufhaus or a Club rather than an FKK.

On the whole girls have 10 times more mobility and choice of venue than afforded by most normal jobs. Of course SJWs will twist this into proof of trafficking ("girls ordered hither and thither by pimps", "girls mere pieces on a chessboard" etc.).[/QUOTE]Yes. As many have said, there must be some level of organisation otherwise how are girls from Romanian small towns going to start their new job in Germany. In some ways no different to employment agencies for any kind of job.

The concerns arise where there is exploitation, in the same way as when I buy an expensive item made in a Bangladesh factory or a Chinese prison. It is very difficult to deal with especially as there is a huge grey area.

People with fixed hostile agendas use the idea of organisation to equal trafficking. This is clearly conflating two different things. Trafficking or exploitation needs some level of organisation, but organisation does not equal trafficking or exploitation (unless one accepts the view that all forms of employment everywhere equals exploitation).

A few years ago a Government report calculated the number of trafficked women in my country by counting the percentage of Romanians and Bulgarians in a few brothels, giving a percentage about 95%, and then said the number of trafficked prostitutes was 95% of the total. The proponents then proposed a ban on prostitution. Fortunately the conflation of trafficking and prostitution was so ridiculed that the law never passed itsmost preliminary stage.

[QUOTE=Optimist;2168463]
The concerns arise where there is exploitation, in the same way as when I buy an expensive item made in a Bangladesh factory or a Chinese prison. It is very difficult to deal with especially as there is a huge grey area.
[/QUOTE]Salaam Aleikum Optimist! If you get a T-shirt made in a Chinese prison, then you don't have to come face-to-face with the prisoner, let alone have sex with her. So if you were looking at it from a purely selfish perspective, it wouldn't make any difference. The product you get is pretty much the same.

It's different with FKKs. I remember my days walking around Aca Velbert, thinking, "90% of these girls are robots!" So the challenge was always not just to find the pretty girls but to find the "real" girls.

And I don't mean to portray these girls as victims because most of them don't act at all like victims. But does it make a difference if they have pimps whispering in their ears, "Don't kiss the customer, don't tell him X, don't tell him Z, lie about your origins, don't tell him how you got here, don't tell him we had this conversation, etc, etc"? Yes, it makes a difference! It crawls all over the girl's personality and makes any personal connection impossible. Which is, really, the point.

That is why I go for the independents. Clearly there is a lot of motivation for a girl to pretend to be independent when she is not (including escorts), but if a guy has a good sense of quality he can feel the difference.

[QUOTE=VitoCorleone;2168385] Aca can be strange the first time. Feels like checking out hot chicks in a graveyard![/QUOTE]LOL. This is very creative writing to describe the scene. LOL.

[QUOTE=VitoCorleone;2168385]Over a month ago I had a great time at GT Aca & YY. Aca can be strange the first time. Feels like checking out hot chicks in a graveyard![/QUOTE]Just a quick post of gratitude for the responses from Vito Corleone, Pistons and Samson Monger. Food for thought. YY sounds like my kind of club. Not sure about Aca! My guess is I'm restricting myself badly by using public transport and I know lots of guys drive. But I won't drink and drive and I like to have some beers in the clubs. Without it I end up picking one decent girl, doing 90 minutes and leaving after a pop. I just cannot stand the boredom of doing nothing whilst recovering. If I have a few beers I'm much better able to have several rooms etc. As the beer of course is an inhibitor to cumming! I don't get wasted (waste of money) but not having a beer at all is a shame. But I guess I need to trade that off against getting to see new clubs. Or returning to the old favourites. Mainhattan deinitely off my list after this last visit. It was truly awful. I like the sound of the Hammam massage in Mondial. I believe there is a gym at YY? I'the like that as I like to use the one in Artemis before any sessions and obviously before the beers!

Thanks again for sharing the options. Very helpful.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2168655]Just a quick post of gratitude for the responses from Vito Corleone, Pistons and Samson Monger. Food for thought. YY sounds like my kind of club. Not sure about Aca! My guess is I'm restricting myself badly by using public transport and I know lots of guys drive. But I won't drink and drive and I like to have some beers in the clubs. Without it I end up picking one decent girl, doing 90 minutes and leaving after a pop. I just cannot stand the boredom of doing nothing whilst recovering. If I have a few beers I'm much better able to have several rooms etc. As the beer of course is an inhibitor to cumming! I don't get wasted (waste of money) but not having a beer at all is a shame. But I guess I need to trade that off against getting to see new clubs. Or returning to the old favourites. Mainhattan deinitely off my list after this last visit. It was truly awful. I like the sound of the Hammam massage in Mondial. I believe there is a gym at YY? I'the like that as I like to use the one in Artemis before any sessions and obviously before the beers!

Thanks again for sharing the options. Very helpful.[/QUOTE]No gym in YY but a wellness center with a small indoor pool, jacuzzi, sauna, steam bath and a larger outdoor pool. I've never been in the outdoor pool but I'm told it's not heated.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2168655]Just a quick post of gratitude for the responses from Vito Corleone, Pistons and Samson Monger. Food for thought. YY sounds like my kind of club. Not sure about Aca! My guess is I'm restricting myself badly by using public transport and I know lots of guys drive. But I won't drink and drive and I like to have some beers in the clubs. Without it I end up picking one decent girl, doing 90 minutes and leaving after a pop. I just cannot stand the boredom of doing nothing whilst recovering. If I have a few beers I'm much better able to have several rooms etc. As the beer of course is an inhibitor to cumming! I don't get wasted (waste of money) but not having a beer at all is a shame. But I guess I need to trade that off against getting to see new clubs. Or returning to the old favourites. Mainhattan deinitely off my list after this last visit. It was truly awful. I like the sound of the Hammam massage in Mondial. I believe there is a gym at YY? I'the like that as I like to use the one in Artemis before any sessions and obviously before the beers!

Thanks again for sharing the options. Very helpful.[/QUOTE]I do pubic transport and taxi as I often smoke in club, I may quit this because as much it feels so good to cum, I do not remember most part after as THC cancel out my memory beside it happened, it was beautiful and some crazy thing in big smoke LOL I like to remember so I may stop smoking during FKK trip which is only time I do this actually.

Maybe take book or porn magazine or something during recovery time? I can see a gentleman reading book like [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] in the main bar sofa area of Golden time Bruggen LOL.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2168714]I can see a gentleman reading book like [url=[URL]http://isgprohibitedwords.info[/URL]?inthemainbarsofaareaofGoldentimeBruggenLOL.[/QUOTE]Problem is, GT girls are opposite of being [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url]. At least 95%. LOL.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2168655]Just a quick post of gratitude for the responses from Vito Corleone, Pistons and Samson Monger. Food for thought. YY sounds like my kind of club. Not sure about Aca! My guess is I'm restricting myself badly by using public transport and I know lots of guys drive. But I won't drink and drive and I like to have some beers in the clubs. Without it I end up picking one decent girl, doing 90 minutes and leaving after a pop. I just cannot stand the boredom of doing nothing whilst recovering. If I have a few beers I'm much better able to have several rooms etc. As the beer of course is an inhibitor to cumming! I don't get wasted (waste of money) but not having a beer at all is a shame. But I guess I need to trade that off against getting to see new clubs. Or returning to the old favourites. Mainhattan deinitely off my list after this last visit. It was truly awful. I like the sound of the Hammam massage in Mondial. I believe there is a gym at YY? I'the like that as I like to use the one in Artemis before any sessions and obviously before the beers!

Thanks again for sharing the options. Very helpful.[/QUOTE]If you prefer to drink beer then forget Aca. I believe 5€ a beer & limit to 4 total. GT all you can grab YY free draft beer. I've read LR experiencing some issues with alcohol so currently 50€ entry but no alcohol.

YY has a nice relax area only for clients. No girls bugging you for a room.

I generally travel solo & I like checking out the talent during recovery time. If you're expecting excitement like the "turn down for what" video then maybe samya is the best club for recovery entertainment.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2168770]Problem is, GT girls are opposite of being [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url]. At least 95%. LOL.[/QUOTE]That's why the guy was reading the magazine LOL!