Angeles City

For my last day in AC I took out Josiphine and Jessica again, this time for 24 hours. I was just going to take Josey again and perhaps find another girl, but when I called Mama Lisa she told that Jessica was ready again. Apparently she's one of those girls who have a three day period or the whole thing about getting her period was just bola bola – you never know; and frankly I don't care.

Picked them up at around 7pm and went over to the Swiss Chalet for dinner. The food there is very good (I also went for lunch there twice) ; I had the pork Wiener schnitzel with spaetzle (highly recommended if you like that kind of food) and the girls both had spaghetti. With soft drinks I think the total was just under 1, 000 pesos. Going off on a tangent here – any of you other guys notice how much these girls can eat? I mean they put away what I would estimate to be around 12oz of pasta before I had even finished one cutlet. On some other occasions with other girls it was the same thing – little Justine sucked up a huge amount of Pork Sisig, together with about a cup and a half of rice like it was nothing!

Anyhow, back to Josey and Jessica. After dinner it was back to the hotel for a few hours of fun and a late night swim as well as a bit of fun in the hot tub too. The next morning I woke up facing Jessica – so I let her start off chopping the morning wood. After our session we went down to the pool for a while and had lunch in the hotel Resto. These girls were like water rats, man did they love the pool and along with a few mango / pineapple shakes it was a good day. Back up to the room later in the afternoon for a few more hours of fun before sending them back to Mama Lisa at the Prince of Wales.

[QUOTE=Rick Rock;1284450]You guys are reminding me of the dude who got jailed, and nearly disappeared, in Pakistan for several months after customers officers at the border noticed that his watch had a micro spy cam inside of it and accused him of being a spy.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info, but I have no plans to go to Pakistan.

[QUOTE=Rick Rock;1284075]It sounds pretty unethical to me.[/QUOTE]I'll leave aside the ethical issues and comment only about the legal aspects. In the US, it is illegal to make an audio recording of someone without their knowledge. You'll find many products that make video recording only to avoid that problem. It's also illegal to make lewd video recordings of someone without their knowledge, such as upskirt shots or hiding a camera in a bathroom. People get prosecuted for this all the time. And for God's sake don't take any lewd or even provocative shots of minors. It's not illegal to take lewd video of yourself, of course. As I understand it, it's a legal gray area to take video of sex acts with yourself and another person in the same frame when they don't have prior knowledge. Getting permission is best, of course.

[QUOTE=Undercoverh;1284585]Thanks for the info, but I have no plans to go to Pakistan.[/QUOTE]Maybe you should listen to what people are trying to tell you. If you ever get caught by phil customs you are fucked. You realise its ILIGAL to take nude photos of filipinas. Those devices if found will mean that you get searched far more thorough then if you had just a cam with you. Anyway I am sure the advice will fall on deaf ears so good luck anyway

I think the odds of 'phil customs' checking some random tourist's digital content without cause is pretty low. But just to be safe, I suggest ALL Punters move their digital content to the cloud or encrypt it on your computer before leaving the country.

[QUOTE=Pip Jaeger;1284560]22 year old Sally. 5' and about 33kgs from Club Asia. Despite the sexy tongue piercing and the high EWR (2, 500 pesos) Sally turned out to be somewhat of a disappointment. Her oral skills weren't that great and after a few minutes of cowgirl I got the 'I tired, you dribe' routine. At that point I said to myself: 'self – I'll bet she'll want to go early too'. And sure enough a little later she came up with some bola bola about her kid (said she didn't have any kids when I asked her in the bar) and wanted to take off at around 4am. Needless to say, she left with only trike fare and seemed happy to get that.[/QUOTE]Crikey, kind of the same thing happened to me with a girl I took out of Club Asia. We were getting along nicely in the bar and after I bar fined her, I took her to Atlantis to see the show and have a few more shots. Everything looked good and I was expecting another fun AC night. But then back in my hotel room, after our first shag which was ok - not great, but ok (soapy shower, BBBJ, and BBFS in multiple positions), she started getting phone calls from a girlfriend like every 10 minutes. After the 4th or 5th phone call, I even talked to the girlfriend and told her that Edsel was working and not to call again. But the calls continued after another 10 minutes or so. Edsel then meekly asked if she could go and meet her friend who was apparently waiting for her somewhere. At this point, I thought it was a good idea and I said sure, Go! I did not want her anymore.

I remember a tip Westcoast made a while back: that as soon as you return to your hotel room, either tell the girl to turn off her cell or to hand it over to be placed in the room safe until morning. I never needed to do this before. Edsel was my first and so far only runner. She was also the most expensive EWR I ever paid in AC (3000p) and the worst Philippine bar girl I ever had to date. Definately a girl to avoid even though she was real pretty and the first round was ok. But, I guess I was overdue for a lemon. One in twenty five is not a bad stat.

They have some very cute girls in Club Asia, but your post Pip, makes me think this is more than a problem with one individual girl. I think Club Asia may be a rip off joint. I don't know for sure.

I'm headed to Angeles City on 29 June for a week and have been RTFF to catch up on what's going on. I keep seeing references to "Perimeter Road". Where is that? Does it go by another name? If anyone will be there during the same timeframe and would like to meet up, shoot me a note.

GE

[QUOTE=Wazoo;1284607]I'll leave aside the ethical issues and comment only about the legal aspects. In the US, it is illegal to make an audio recording of someone without their knowledge. You'll find many products that make video recording only to avoid that problem. It's also illegal to make lewd video recordings of someone without their knowledge, such as upskirt shots or hiding a camera in a bathroom. People get prosecuted for this all the time. And for God's sake don't take any lewd or even provocative shots of minors. It's not illegal to take lewd video of yourself, of course. As I understand it, it's a legal gray area to take video of sex acts with yourself and another person in the same frame when they don't have prior knowledge. Getting permission is best, of course.[/QUOTE]Ok, let's take a step back for a few seconds and think about a few important points. First, this is a site men come to (including yourself) to learn where to go to pay for sex with women. In this case, it is the Philippines. Paying for sex with women in the Philippines is not legal (and yes the police are paid off to look the other way, but it is still not legal). Based on the fact you are here on this site and you have postings about the Philippines, we can assume you have paid for (or intend to pay for) sex with women in the Philippines. Thus, you (or non of us) are in any position to advice others about not breaking laws.

Second. For those of you who have moral issues about using spy equipment, you are at the wrong website to express your moral outrage. Many folks around the world would look at the fact that you are at a site with the intent to find locations where you can go to pay for sex (with women in a 3rd world country) and conclude you are a person without any moral or basic human values. Anyone who needs to post their moral values here, should first give up their membership to this website.

Third. we are all adults here. No need to advice other adult men on what you think they should or should not do. Or, attempt to advice us about not using the spy cam on minors. As adults males, we really do already know this stuff. If using spy equipment is not right for you, then that is fine. But no need to preach to others about the sins of using it. I do not like anal sex with women, but I will never tell another guy he should not do it for legal or moral grounds. It is his choice. He does not need me preaching to him about why he should not do it, at least not at this website named International Sex Guide.

And lastly, I assume as adults males on this website, most have common sense. Therefore, I did not feel the need to advice adult males not to display spy cam equipment when trying to enter a country. Most men with common sense would know they need to pack it. Or, not to use the spy cam on minors, becareful where they store the data, or put a jacket on when it is cold outside, etc. Telling other adult men to be careful of this and that, is like the warning label on the hair dryer which reads something like this....do not use this hair dryer while taking a bath.

P.S. Most would agree that western governments are experts at syping and they do it with no moral or legal concerns. Companies access your data without you knowing it and that is a form of spying. Simply stated, it is the world we live in.

[QUOTE=Great Expecta; 1284743]I'm headed to Angeles City on 29 June for a week and have been RTFF to catch up on what's going on. I keep seeing references to "Perimeter Road". Where is that? Does it go by another name? If anyone will be there during the same timeframe and would like to meet up, shoot me a note.

GE[/QUOTE]Also known as Don Juico Ave. From Fields Ave just head west, along the same road from about the friendship jeepney terminal you are now on Perimeter.

[quote=undercoverh;1284790]third. we are all adults here. no need to advice other adult men on what you think they should or should not do.[/quote]hey, no moral outrage here. as you say, we are all grownups. i'm just clarifying the law in the us so that members can make their own calculation about risk / benefit and take necessary precautions to clean up afterwards. we all need to know what is and isn't legal so we can make an informed decision. i drive over the speed limit all the time, and because i do that, i want to know what the speed limit actually is on any given road and how often it is patrolled. a friend of mine got caught up in a raid in a massage parlor in the states. there was no evidence so the cops had to let him go. until they noticed the spy cam in his gym bag.

[QUOTE=Pip Jaeger;1284560]22 year old Sally. 5' and about 33kgs from Club Asia. Despite the sexy tongue piercing and the high EWR (2, 500 pesos) Sally turned out to be somewhat of a disappointment. Her oral skills weren't that great and after a few minutes of cowgirl I got the 'I tired, you dribe' routine. At that point I said to myself: 'self – I'll bet she'll want to go early too'. And sure enough a little later she came up with some bola bola about her kid (said she didn't have any kids when I asked her in the bar) and wanted to take off at around 4am. Needless to say, she left with only trike fare and seemed happy to get that.[/QUOTE]Thanks for all the reports and especially Club Asia. This bar seems to bar fine a lot of their women out nightly but my experience is that they have a tendency to lie here more so than the average bar girl. I think their lighting in the bar is deceptive. I won't bother with specifics, but use your imagination. When they consider most of their women working there as spotlights or what not where they have a higher barfine than average across Fields, and then the women and the club plays games, it just makes it a riskier proposition.

[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot; 1284338]I visited every bar on Fields Av in February so here is a map I compiled as well as a list of my TOP TEN BARS.

Lancelot[/QUOTE]Outstanding report, sir! I am saving this one to my cell phone to use for reference. This one deserves to go in the Reports of Distinction.

I was at AC last week for 4 days first night went to Camelot barfined Joyce a nice girl with a hot body new girl only work in bar for week, some korean broke her cherry a week before no BJ and very shy, after one pop she want to leave to pick up something from her girl friend she told me she be back in one hr and never did, I went back to the bar the next night and compain to the mamasan she said after you pop no refund but I ask the girl in front of he mamasan that she will stay until 8 am in the morning and I ask to talk to the manager she said not avalible.

I order a drink and ask the waitress very nice girl who is the manager I told her what happen last night and she was there when I ask joyce she will stay all night and I give the waitress a nice tip, she bring over the manager big daddy a aussie a very nice guy and told him what happen and he talk to the girl and the waitress and refund the girl comission 825 p back to me the barfined are 1900 p and I barfined the waitress for the night she is a GFE and stay all night until 9am the next morning so for all you newbie don't give in to the bar girl that lie to you and don't talk to the mamasan they don't give a shit and will help the girl and tip the girl if she stay all night and give good service.

Fast Eddie 48

Quick question! Do wg hang out in the hotels like in Costa Rica at the Del Ray? And I'm staying at the abc, but considering the lgh. Which one of those would be the best move? Also can you negotiate the price of a barfine?

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1284842]I was at AC last week for 4 days first night went to Camelot barfined Joyce a nice girl with a hot body new girl only work in bar for week, some korean broke her cherry a week before no BJ and very shy, after one pop she want to leave to pick up something from her girl friend she told me she be back in one hr and never did, I went back to the bar the next night and compain to the mamasan she said after you pop no refund but I ask the girl in front of he mamasan that she will stay until 8 am in the morning and I ask to talk to the manager she said not avalible.

I order a drink and ask the waitress very nice girl who is the manager I told her what happen last night and she was there when I ask joyce she will stay all night and I give the waitress a nice tip, she bring over the manager big daddy a aussie a very nice guy and told him what happen and he talk to the girl and the waitress and refund the girl comission 825 p back to me the barfined are 1900 p and I barfined the waitress for the night she is a GFE and stay all night until 9am the next morning so for all you newbie don't give in to the bar girl that lie to you and don't talk to the mamasan they don't give a shit and will help the girl and tip the girl if she stay all night and give good service.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]I am happy read someone got justice with these runners on Fields ave. I had my first runner 14 years ago on Fields ave, I guess much has not changed there. For sure, the girls know when they are talking to us and making the promise they will stay, they intend to leave sooner than the agreed time. I am always surprised how the girls can be so sweet and sexy in the bar then back in the room change. If I wanted sex problems, I would stay home with my wife, no need to travel to AC to get it.

But, I have found a solution. Over the years, I have tried Fields, Prem Road, Raymond St, and Blowrow (and dating regular girls there I find from the dating websites for the AC. I have not had a runner yet from Raymond St and Blowrow (A. Santos Street) in the past 6 years (that must be a worlds record). I go to AC at least 2 to 3 times a year on 2 or 4 day trips. I like that on Raymond and A. Santos, the minimum time is set at 12 hours by the bar, not the girl. You pay 1200 to 1400 to the mama, and you get at least 12 hours, stated up front. Which includes a BBBJ, and at least 2 pops. Bare back sex is up to the girl. Nevertheless, I always show the girl the time on my cell phone and we agree what time she will leave me at night or in the morning. When I pay, I also tell the mama, with the girl standing there, the time we agreed she would leave. I also say in a nice in kidding way,"ok, if she leaves early, I am coming back for a big refund." The mama will laugh and say "no problem with girl sir."

Also, I guess it helps that I am a regular customer on Santos and Raymond st. I normally sit and talk with the mama, buy her a drink. There is one mama on Raymond St that is old, but she does not wear a bra under her top, and her tits have a sexy little point on them. I normally play with mama with mama and hug her when I see her (so I can feel her tits against me). Ok, I know this is, well, weird, but it gets me hard and ready for the younger girls. I never asked mama out for a ST, maybe I will in the future. I know she was a bar girl when she was young and her pussy has been worked over, but sometimes I am in a funny mood.

Years ago, I started to bypass Fields because of the runners. I thought I would give it a try again on my next trip, but after reading your report, maybe I will stick with my old good hangouts. When I have a runner, I have a bad mood all night and the next morning. From the post here, other guys have had good results with Santos and Raymond st. These little bars are basic and they can only keep customers coming back because of service and low price for sex. I am sold on the concept! I will visit Fields for the shows and check out the girls dancing, get a few feels. But I will leave the sex stuff to the pros on Raymond and Santos street.

If you want to check out Raymond St., go to you tube and copy and past the following "hookers in the Philippines=Raymond St.MTS" this will give u an idea of the girls. however, the selection will change often, the girls come and go.