Sao Paulo Reports

[QUOTE=SnarkHunter;2348153]It looks like I'll be staying close to Bomboa at Hotel Mercure (Pinheiros). I'll be in town for about five or six nights on a work trip, with what will likely be an attentive local host who will be hyper-scheduling my time and a few business colleagues who will want to hang out with me, and I don't want any of them to know anything about my recreational activities. My guess is that I'll be able to have two or three adventures, but timing could be tight, and I might have to jump on short notice, without being able to schedule it in advance. I really don't know how much "alone time" I'm going to have.

It's my first time in the country. I'm lousy at navigating public transportation, and won't have the time to get lost, so I'm not keen on leaving Pinheiros.

So, a few questions.

1. Is there a clinica near that area? There's something called Clinica Caribe, but I searching the forum hasn't turned up any reports. (Are all clinicas monger friendly, or are some just for legit massages? And is it like AMPS, where you signal your extracurricular intentions in various established signs? If so, how?.[/QUOTE]1- Clinica Caribe has been renamed to "Clinica Paulista", still in the same place. Did you signup at Gpguia? Look for "CLínica Paulista (ex- Caribe, ex-La Isla)"

2- Nope, just use the hotel right in the same building. I advise against this conduct of "bring the girl to your place.

3- Yup, you can use the funds to pay for drinks for everyone, not just girls.

4- Well, just choose the girl, ask for the price and "I want to 2 hours with you, how much it costs for me? Sometimes the girls will double the rate, sometimes 75%. Treat her well, and she will treat you right.

"Clinicas" is a good route for anyone concerned about security. "Boates" you will be OK inside. Outside not so much.

Hope it helps.

[QUOTE=CharmingIL;2348790]It's one of the best and most trustlabe websites in Sao Paulo. Obviously the pics must have some photoshop treatment but the girls are all verified.[/QUOTE]Ok I found a very cute one sasha in Jardins, actually loads but only messaged one and she wants 400 Real an hour so about $100 usd but she is so hot. It seems expensive for SP but wow so I will think about it.

It's the average price for Sao Paulo actually.

You can also find good ones for better prices at [URL]www.photoacompanhantes.com/[/URL] but then you got to be careful because there are plenty of scammers and fake ones in this website, so you got to do an good search.

[QUOTE=Jbj64;2348934]Ok I found a very cute one sasha in Jardins, actually loads but only messaged one and she wants 400 Real an hour so about $100 usd but she is so hot. It seems expensive for SP but wow so I will think about it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2348825]The entry is R270 and they give you a little wristband with a number. Each time u order they make you sign and they note ur number. Yes it is credited against the 270 but it goes pretty quickly.

As to the room, you could walk to the Mercure. But the on-site rooms are only R190 and very convenient. Great mirrors on ceiling and walls. Worth it to me. Get your girls number if you really like her and have her to your hotel for a longer session the next day.

As far as service and time you need to negotiate beforehand. You can use google translate. I didn't discuss service with my first girl and got CBJ (boo) and my second we discussed BBBJ and CIM ahead. I have a small advantage speaking some Portuguese but I am sure google translate will work.

Full report forthcoming but hopefully this helps for now.[/QUOTE]Damn, that's quite expensive for Brazilian standards. If my math is correct, that's R460 right off the bat even before I get see the girl naked. That would more than cover a one hour session at 4 x4 or 3-4 sessions at clinicas / casa de massagems. I wouldn't go here on a normal basis, maybe once a week at the most.

The CBJ move by your first girl was definitely shady. I'd be OK with CBJ if it was a clinica girl. But for such a high end place, I wouldn't accept anything less than a complete service. Just goes to show you can't assume things even with the Brasileiras, especially at these high end places.

Looking forward to your full report. I have a good feeling its going to be great.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2348852]Is Cafe Photo that pricey or was it just the length of time. I did have a Casarao girl last year tell me she used to charge 1000 at Cafe Photo. Seems so high. My datapoints so far (and I'm sure there are those that will accuse me of overpaying) are: Scandallo 700. Bomboa 2 at 600 and 1 at 500. All were super good looking 8.5+ material.[/QUOTE]A price of 700 is too high, even for Scandallo. Should be more in line with 500 to 600. Went with a really gorgeous scandallo girl who started out asking for 800 (said that's what Japanese guys were paying her). Do I look Japanese to you LOL? We went up for 600, but I also had some 500 sessions with other hotties. One girl went as low as 400 (and invited me to go to a swing club in Moema with her). I declined on both counts as she was not my type, and definitely no more than a 6 (thus the lower asking price). You will pay less at the clinicas for sure. A lot less. But then, the girls at the clinicas aren't as hot. According to my tastes they on average just don't look as good. I have the clinica optics average at a 6 (just below my required minimum 7), whereas per my tastes the night boites average is an 8.

[QUOTE=CharmingIL;2348941]It's the average price for Sao Paulo actually.[/QUOTE]That would be about twice the average price, based on my actual, recent experience.

[QUOTE=TommyBr;2348894] Did you signup at Gpguia? Look for "Clinica Paulista (ex- Caribe, ex-La Isla)" [/QUOTE]Thank you for your insights.

Regarding [URL]Gpguia.net[/URL], I don't speak / read Portuguese, and so it seems of limited practicality to me, unless there is something I'm missing. Are there any sites like that in English?

[QUOTE=DreamCarnarvon;2348957]Damn, that's quite expensive for Brazilian standards.[/QUOTE]There isn't just one Brazilian standard. Most of the clients are Brazilians who can afford it.

[QUOTE=DreamCarnarvon;2348957]If my math is correct, that's R460 right off the bat even before I get see the girl naked.[/QUOTE]

270 is for the drinks, food, the band and the house. It wouldn't be very good business plan to offer all that free. They have rents and salaries to pay. It also helps to keep wrong kind of people out.

Depends, depends. You can find girls in all prices. But in big websites like [URL]clubmodel.com.br[/URL] and [URL]splove.com.br[/URL] mostly good girls are charging this price. Between 300/400/500.

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2349111]That would be about twice the average price, based on my actual, recent experience.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SnarkHunter;2349197]Thank you for your insights.

Regarding [URL]Gpguia.net[/URL], I don't speak / read Portuguese, and so it seems of limited practicality to me, unless there is something I'm missing. Are there any sites like that in English?[/QUOTE]Use Chrome with the google translate plugin.

[QUOTE=JibReach;2349292]Use Chrome with the google translate plugin.[/QUOTE]Obrigado! Very helpful.

So I landed late evening and the plan was to do both Bomboa and Scandallo. I'd have dinner at Bomboa and then hit Scandallo at midnight when it peaks. But as usual the best laid plans.

So I did start at Bomboa which is quite nearby. On arrival I paid the R270 fee and got my numbered wristband. They said "English?" and I said yes and they assigned me an English speaking maitre D and he was awesome the whole night. So attentive. All about customer service. Imagine Ricardo Montalband and Fantasy island. He's that guy.

At the time I entered the club -- maybe 830 - probably 50 girls and way less guys. All pretty in their own way but I have a certain type. By midnight I'd say there were over a hundred girls there.

So he puts me at a table and I run into another friendly guy right next to me and I kinda becomen his wingman since he speaks no Portugus. We decide to get a bottle of Malbec even though it's more expensive than by the glass so we can share it with girls. R400.

Of course all the girls give some eye contact but some are persistent. There is one latina with some black in her just giving me the constant stare while I sip. I keep having to avoid locking eyes. She is quite pretty but I am not ready yet. It's very distracting as I try to talk with my new friend.

Just sitting and sipping our Malbec when two girlfriends sit down with us.

The one that sits with me is so OMG my type that I am actually a little disappointed. Because I know I will go with her but was looking forward to the garota buffet. Jim's girl is not his type and she eventually moves on.

Rather than rush things and I have not eaten yet, I order the Salmon. It's really top notch and a reasonable R85. Just me my salmon my Malbec my girl and tons of eye candy. Ahhhhhh. Doesn't suck.

So after dinner I decide I will take my hottie up to the room and meet back with Jim later. She had asked 800 and we agreed 700. (Please spare me the I overpaid comments. I am still very happy with the price, tho I should have negotiated services.) More on this later.

You end up checking out at the front and go to the hotel next door. My bill was R540 with the wine and the Salmon. I gave Ricardo a tip but apparently you can't do this in full view. He had to give it to the club -- he coached me on this later.

So off Micela and I go to the hotel. It is literally 30 ft away. We stop for a smoke break which is nice and casual. Then up the stairs and pay the R190 hotel fee. Nice rooms. Big clean beds. Mirrors everywhere. Shower of course. Nice high end facility.

Once in the room I shower but she does not (? Doesn't bother me) And we start with some DFK. She is a strong kisser and it's very nice. I help her out of her dress and OMG she has a serious rack. She had it constrained by a bustier, but wow. Serious natural DD cups on a petite frame and lovely to play with. She informs me they are real to which I can only reply -- duh I know I have my hands on them right now!

So a nice slow start and we head to some BJ. She's got the condom out but I am waving her off. Even with sign language she clearly knows what I am saying but she is like sorry have to use it. OK that crossed her off my repeat list. Shame. She is a lovely girl.

I have to say we had super nice pussy fit in all positions. Did some DATY and 69 but still with condom. Boo. The hotel condom was lame so At some point we ditched it for my Okamoto 01. This was a ton better but still no chance of cumming without the BBBJ either before or after. I tried again for a by mouth finish but no dice.

So I ask her to roll on her back and I put her hand on her pussy. She gets the hint and starts working it. Some nice tight circles on her clit and quite a bit of finger in and out. It's very sexy and you can tell she is getting off.

I work myself by hand and looking at that work of art in front of me and bam bam a satisfying finish.

She showers alone (again a little disappointing) and I shower and we pack up. I do write her a little note on Google translate and say to have a girlfriend I see multiple times I need BBBJ. She says OK it was just this first time. From now on without. But she's kinda already killed my infatuation with the fact she went covered and would not back off. Do no plan to repeat with her.

That is OK. My next girl turns out to be every thing Micela was not. Still had a nice time and left plenty satisfied. Stay tuned.

You can do the same with whatsapp and set google translate to tap to translate, everytime you copy a message the google translate button come up in the corner, I hit that it opens translate, the I do new message, talk to text hit copy and paste the message. I have used it only in Colombia / equcador but it seems to do the same for portugese. It is very helpful.

[QUOTE=SnarkHunter;2349314]Obrigado! Very helpful.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2348852]Is Cafe Photo that pricey or was it just the length of time. I did have a Casarao girl last year tell me she used to charge 1000 at Cafe Photo. Seems so high. My datapoints so far (and I'm sure there are those that will accuse me of overpaying) are:

Scandallo 700. Bomboa 2 at 600 and 1 at 500. All were super good looking 8.5+ material.[/QUOTE]Yeah I was talking to her yesterday and she said that she goes there because they can charge more however she did not give me a time limit.

Steve,

Yeah that maitre'd is a bit of a pain in the ass. I had much the same experience and I was always a bit suspicious about giving him a tip in the kitchen or john but at the end of the day he was semi-useful and does make you feel like a baller. Next time at Bomboa I'd say nao obrigado tho.

But 700 for CBJ? Dude, you are losing your edge. I paid 600 for full on GFE including photos with my mulatta. I'll give you a mulligan because those garotas can cause a guy to lose his equilibrium, especially since you just got off the plane. Like you I'the just assume a girl would provide full GFE services. That she semi-scammed you, along with Ricardo's act makes me think Bomboa is seeing more than it's share of tourists. The cheesy Top 40 cover band is another tip off. Still I liked the overall vibe of the place and will return.

Look forward, as always, to your reports on Scandallo.