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A friend of mine thinks he's got enough to try his luck with them. I suggested Red Square, X2 and Vertigo. Anymore places?

[QUOTE=Menteng;1780019]A friend of mine thinks he's got enough to try his luck with them. I suggested Red Square, X2 and Vertigo. Anymore places?[/QUOTE]I think both Red Square and Vertigo are closed now. X2 is still popular and a good recommendation. Try Immigrant in Plaza Indonesia, that would be my top recommendation. Also could try Dragonfly (at Graha BIP), Skye (at Menara BCA), Cloud (at Plaza Office Tower), Blowfish (at Wisma Mulia), Buddha Bar (in Menteng and only has a crowd on certain nights).

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1780034]I think both Red Square and Vertigo are closed now. X2 is still popular and a good recommendation. Try Immigrant in Plaza Indonesia, that would be my top recommendation. Also could try Dragonfly (at Graha BIP), Skye (at Menara BCA), Cloud (at Plaza Office Tower), Blowfish (at Wisma Mulia), Buddha Bar (in Menteng and only has a crowd on certain nights).[/QUOTE]Thanks for the input. Hope to report on his odyssee.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1780034]I think both Red Square and Vertigo are closed now. X2 is still popular and a good recommendation. Try Immigrant in Plaza Indonesia, that would be my top recommendation. Also could try Dragonfly (at Graha BIP), Skye (at Menara BCA), Cloud (at Plaza Office Tower), Blowfish (at Wisma Mulia), Buddha Bar (in Menteng and only has a crowd on certain nights).[/QUOTE]Apart from the very worth recommendations made here I would also include high end restaurants. I have got lucky at Loewy's at Kuningan and Union at Plaza Senayan. The rules remian the same.

1. Dress well, wear a good perfume. The weather in Jakarta sucks but wear a jacket. It really makes an impression.

2. Be polite, make eye contact, smile a lot. Don't be shy.

3. Get a drink and hang loose. Don't get a beer, but get a bottle of wine instead. Easier to call someone over and share.

Good luck!

[QUOTE=Menteng;1780019]A friend of mine thinks he's got enough to try his luck with them. I suggested Red Square, X2 and Vertigo. Anymore places?[/QUOTE]I say the following absolutely without trying to brag but I run in these circles and I hope your friend does not have too high hopes. My steady GF can be considered one of those girls hence I speak from experience, although my experience is with the Chinese-Indonesians.

The seriously wealthy, Hi-so girls will not go out clubbing by themselves and will always be in a group, 50/50 male / female with everyone partnered up, although at times there are slightly more male attendees. Currently the most popular places are Ego (the VIP room of X2), Emperica in SCBD, Colosseum and indeed as mentioned by Smoothy Dragonfly, Skye and Cloud. Private rooms in Sun City, Golden Crown and Colo might also be booked. Prohibition (not the restaurant but the "speakeasy" bar round the back which you enter through a toilet), Cork&Screw and a few other bars around are at times quite popular too. The groups will nearly always have at least 1 sofa and multiple bottles of liquor, vodka for the ladies and whiskey / cognac for the men. You will not find girls like this standing at the bar with a few friends. The entire group comes together and leaves together; at all times. They will never allow any girls to leave with someone she has just met. Better yet, most of the girls will not even talk to a guy when you don't have any mutual friends! (And I don't mean Facebook friends, you must be physically introduced). To make things even more interesting, the majority of these girls are educated abroad, quite religious, are actually virgins and would never give it up before marriage.

Remember that the guys these girls are usually hanging out with come from extremely wealthy backgrounds, an average night out can easily reach 60/70 million and they won't even batter an eyelid. They'll get in their Ferrari's or Lamborghini's and drive home to repeat it all tomorrow. In these circles women never pay, anything. One guy pays the bill first and a few days later gets split amongst all men attending. You are however expected to mention to the one who is paying to "deal you in". If you don't you are considered a cheapskate. For a good night out I am usually 10 to 15 million out of pocket. Although the way these guys work is that it pays itself back in the business they all give each other.

Be mid 30's max, have a decent job and actually live IN Jakarta, own a decent car, live in a house or a very proper apartment. The girls look a gentleman who is highly intelligent. Don't be a show-off with material things as unless you are a USD millionaire in your own right you will always lose from your competition but definitely do not be cheap. The absolute best way you can meet these girls are through the right work colleagues or business partners, look for highly educated and youngish Chinese guys in senior positions.

Best of luck to your buddy and everyone else who is going to give it a shot but don't take the challenge lightly.

Tuesday night. I know many of you think it's too $$, but for me, the quality of establishment and service make it perfectly worthwhile. Spent time at the spa / hotel with a lithe Indonesian beauty who apparently had only been working for a few days -- all action was covered, which is fine with me, with all manners of positions, plus a nice massage afterward. Then going down to 4 Play club to relax with a drink and watch the dancing girls. Including the spa / hotel session, drinks for both of us, and then drinks at 4 Play I think I walked out spending about 3 mil IDR. Not a cheap evening, but top quality.

One thing though: at 4 Play, I had heard of girls coming up aggressively for "drinks" and then pushing private dances hard. I was actually left in total peace the whole time there -- I would even have liked a little someone to come up to me! Is it different on different nights? Or have things moved there to a system where you have to request private dances, etc?

[QUOTE=HihiSter;1780129]I say the following absolutely without trying to brag but I run in these circles and I hope your friend does not have too high hopes. My steady GF can be considered one of those girls hence I speak from experience, although my experience is with the Chinese-Indonesians.

The seriously wealthy, Hi-so girls will not go out clubbing by themselves and will always be in a group, 50/50 male / female with everyone partnered up, although at times there are slightly more male attendees. Currently the most popular places are Ego (the VIP room of X2), Emperica in SCBD, Colosseum and indeed as mentioned by Smoothy Dragonfly, Skye and Cloud. Private rooms in Sun City, Golden Crown and Colo might also be booked. Prohibition (not the restaurant but the "speakeasy" bar round the back which you enter through a toilet), Cork&Screw and a few other bars around are at times quite popular too. The groups will nearly always have at least 1 sofa and multiple bottles of liquor, vodka for the ladies and whiskey / cognac for the men. You will not find girls like this standing at the bar with a few friends. The entire group comes together and leaves together; at all times. They will never allow any girls to leave with someone she has just met. Better yet, most of the girls will not even talk to a guy when you don't have any mutual friends! (And I don't mean Facebook friends, you must be physically introduced). To make things even more interesting, the majority of these girls are educated abroad, quite religious, are actually virgins and would never give it up before marriage.

Remember that the guys these girls are usually hanging out with come from extremely wealthy backgrounds, an average night out can easily reach 60/70 million and they won't even batter an eyelid. They'll get in their Ferrari's or Lamborghini's and drive home to repeat it all tomorrow. In these circles women never pay, anything. One guy pays the bill first and a few days later gets split amongst all men attending. You are however expected to mention to the one who is paying to "deal you in". If you don't you are considered a cheapskate. For a good night out I am usually 10 to 15 million out of pocket. Although the way these guys work is that it pays itself back in the business they all give each other.

Be mid 30's max, have a decent job and actually live IN Jakarta, own a decent car, live in a house or a very proper apartment. The girls look a gentleman who is highly intelligent. Don't be a show-off with material things as unless you are a USD millionaire in your own right you will always lose from your competition but definitely do not be cheap. The absolute best way you can meet these girls are through the right work colleagues or business partners, look for highly educated and youngish Chinese guys in senior positions.

Best of luck to your buddy and everyone else who is going to give it a shot but don't take the challenge lightly.[/QUOTE]Great post, it's nice to know how the other half (1% perhaps) live.

I think I'll stick to my hard-up students hanging out in Ambassador Mall, it works out a lot cheaper and at the end of the day, you are just getting the same damn thing.

Short post due to getting back at 3: OO am last night. Jakarta is one of the last cities I know of in Asia that allow girls to dance fully nude. If you gents know of other Asian cities, feel free to provide feed back. I went to 3 different fully nude clubs last night. Most clubs start with nude dancers between 9 pm to midnight. For details and which clubs go full nude, check out "Jakarta 100 Bars" website, which has excellent info.

I had fun at Tease Strip Club and also at Classic. At a Classic, full nude starts around 10:30 pm or 11:00 pm, the time will change depending on how long the live band plays.

Nice way to recharge my sexual power by seeing 8 fully nude Indo young cute girls dancing in the stage. And, for shots, they will provide lap dance and you can touch, not like in the U.S. Also, they are available for sex. Nice way to fully see the body before u select your girl. If I get a lap dance, I always take her to the back of the club where it is dark so you have more freedom to touch. Also, be clear about the cost of shots and how many for lap dances. This will depend on the club. Depending 8n the girl and where u are at in the club, gently touching her p_ssy is allowed and touching her ass and tits. At least I have been able to do this. Again, it depends on the girl, club, and how many shots u are buying. I will force myself to hit the weight room and pool this morning so I can be ready for another night of Indo p_ssy!

Thanks for the responses.

HHster, now you make me wonder where he has to look for the non-Chinese ones.

[QUOTE=Undercoverh;1780467]Short post due to getting back at 3: OO am last night. Jakarta is one of the last cities I know of in Asia that allow girls to dance fully nude. If you gents know of other Asian cities, feel free to provide feed back. I went to 3 different fully nude clubs last night. Most clubs start with nude dancers between 9 pm to midnight. For details and which clubs go full nude, check out "Jakarta 100 Bars" website, which has excellent info.

I had fun at Tease Strip Club and also at Classic. At a Classic, full nude starts around 10:30 pm or 11:00 pm, the time will change depending on how long the live band plays.

Nice way to recharge my sexual power by seeing 8 fully nude Indo young cute girls dancing in the stage. And, for shots, they will provide lap dance and you can touch, not like in the U.S. Also, they are available for sex. Nice way to fully see the body before u select your girl. If I get a lap dance, I always take her to the back of the club where it is dark so you have more freedom to touch. Also, be clear about the cost of shots and how many for lap dances. This will depend on the club. Depending 8n the girl and where u are at in the club, gently touching her p_ssy is allowed and touching her ass and tits. At least I have been able to do this. Again, it depends on the girl, club, and how many shots u are buying. I will force myself to hit the weight room and pool this morning so I can be ready for another night of Indo p_ssy![/QUOTE]Don't you live in Bangkok? Your post makes it sound like finding naked girls dancing in Asia is a new experience. They absolutely have that in Bangkok. Go to Soi Cowboy. I was just there recently and went to Long Gun (Lucky Star) and Rawhide bars. Both have completely naked girls dancing. And they don't just dance, they put on excellent shows naked as well! If you buy them one drink every half hour or hour or so (not a shot every minute like you have to do in Classic), you can have them sit on your lap naked and feel them up to your heart's content. They will bounce up and down naked on your boner while you play with their tits and fondle their body and watch the naked girls show. It's good fun. And of course you can bar fine the girl and take her back to your hotel or a short time room for sex if you like.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1780599]Don't you live in Bangkok? Your post makes it sound like finding naked girls dancing in Asia is a new experience. They absolutely have that in Bangkok. Go to Soi Cowboy. I was just there recently and went to Long Gun (Lucky Star) and Rawhide bars. Both have completely naked girls dancing. And they don't just dance, they put on excellent shows naked as well! If you buy them one drink every half hour or hour or so (not a shot every minute like you have to do in Classic), you can have them sit on your lap naked and feel them up to your heart's content. They will bounce up and down naked on your boner while you play with their tits and fondle their body and watch the naked girls show. It's good fun. And of course you can bar fine the girl and take her back to your hotel or a short time room for sex if you like.[/QUOTE]To add to the list. Angelwitch in Nana and Suzie wong or Baccara in Soi cowboy also have nude shows. And girls can be bfined as well for ST or LT. So Jakarta is definitely not the only city.

[QUOTE=Tiradentes;1779646]1. Rio to Sao Paolo (Brazil) is what Pattaya is to Bangkok in terms of quality and quantity.

2. Frankfurt is so depressing. RLD is full of empty rooms in those 5-6 floors buildings around the station.

The FKK's are populated by mechanical under performer Romanian chicks. Plus the chicks from all nationalities act like used car salesmen (e. g: Finger in the arse?. That's 50 E extra).

I would erase Europe all together from my mongering map. There are plenty of untapped destinations in SE Asia that need to be discovered. A forum like this is helpful.[/QUOTE]I think you are too harsh on Europe. I go to the FKKs in Germany, every year for my once-a-year Caucasian treat. I always had a good time there. I was there last in August, met 3 Italians, 2 Romanians, and 2 Russians.

I fell in love with one of the Italians, the Romanians provided decent service, and the Russian girls were ripoff. Overall, I had a great time there, as usual.

IMO, Rio is no longer the Pattaya of South America. The action now is in San Paulo, or even Colombia, my new favorite playground in South America.

[QUOTE=IllusionHeart;1780680]To add to the list. Angelwitch in Nana and Suzie wong or Baccara in Soi cowboy also have nude shows. And girls can be bfined as well for ST or LT. So Jakarta is definitely not the only city.[/QUOTE]You are both correct about these clubs in BK. To clarify or better state my comments in my previous post, I do not know of any Asian country that has as many fully nude clubs as Jakarta. I have been to at least 10 in Jakarta, and I understand there are more, that I have yet to visit.

[QUOTE=HihiSter;1780129]I say the following absolutely without trying to brag but I run in these circles and I hope your friend does not have too high hopes.

Best of luck to your buddy and everyone else who is going to give it a shot but don't take the challenge lightly.[/QUOTE]Fantastic post, highly insightful and informative as well.

[QUOTE=Undercoverh;1780692]You are both correct about these clubs in BK. To clarify or better state my comments in my previous post, I do not know of any Asian country that has as many fully nude clubs as Jakarta. I have been to at least 10 in Jakarta, and I understand there are more, that I have yet to visit.[/QUOTE]Yes, there are more than 10 places that have nude dancing. Most of them are smaller places and only have about 4 to 6 dancers. In Jakarta though, the nude dancers are often only dancing in each club for about a half hour, then they disappear to another club to dance naked there as well. The nude dancers are not always available to take upstairs. As a matter of fact, it's the exception to have that option rather than the norm (depending on the club). And if you are allowed to take them, they are more expensive than the other girls.

In Bangkok, the nude dancers can be taken to your hotel and shagged pretty much without exception, it's those ridiculous Coyote girls in the tight shorts who cannot. And the places in Bangkok will have over 30 nude dancers in each place.

Malioboro has full time hired dancers, but they do not dance completely naked anymore as far as I am aware (although I haven't been there in months, and it goes in cycles, sometimes they are naked sometimes they are not. Sometimes they are only topless. Sometimes they dance in bikinis. Sometimes they dance fully clothed or there are no dancers at all, depending on how strict the police are at that time.) The naked dancers at Hotel Classic only dance at certain times, and if it's a Friday or Saturday night, it's so damn crowded in there, I can't even see them or get near them. I avoid Classic (and all of the other places with a small cover charge that have nude dancers) on weekend nights. I remember when Golden Crown first starting having topless dancers, I thought that was a great idea. Until I went there and there were thousands of locals packed into the room to watch 4 topless dancers who barely even moved their bodies to the music.

I like to look at the nude dancers in Jakarta. But for one on one fun with naked girls, I think Bangkok is far superior. Philippines has plenty of action as well. I even like the down market Beijing, China karaoke places because the girls will get naked in the rooms there, dancing, singing dirty songs and playing naughty games in the room, then you can take them home after the karaoke if you want. Bengkel Cafe in Jakarta used to have naked dancer karaoke girls as well, but I think that is no more. Those Bengkel Cafe girls wanted to spend most of the time in the karaoke room trying to give nude lap dances for 50 k per song anyway (like at Malio or Classic), or a shag in the toilet for extra money. They weren't really interested in going home with the clients. Regardless, it is always nice to look at naked girls even if you can't take them home to your place. Even in the USA strip clubs it's nice. If you consider Guam to be an Asian country, it has lots of nude strip clubs due to US military being there.