Devilspinkick,
I have always been curious to stay in Centro (Flamengo/Catete/Gloria) area and I was interested in finding out more info about Hotel Florida and Hotel Gloria. Have you stayed there? How much was the diario there?
Thanks.
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Devilspinkick,
I have always been curious to stay in Centro (Flamengo/Catete/Gloria) area and I was interested in finding out more info about Hotel Florida and Hotel Gloria. Have you stayed there? How much was the diario there?
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Ryjerrob]Lapa is a great area full of people and culture. I was there on a Friday night with some friends, and it started out slow, but the evening got better. One guy in particular stayed there with me until 9am, still drinking. There were about 15 people left over from a street party still jamming on make-shift instruments. It was a blast. The guy I was with spoke no portuguese, but ended up taking some 20's something girl to breakfast with us. At no point did it seem dangerous.
ryjer[/QUOTE]Can agree on it dosent seems dangerous area. I have been there only some few times and its a good area to go for drinks. Epsecially Rio Scenario i like it...
[QUOTE=Gavazzi]Can agree on it dosent seems dangerous area. [/QUOTE]
It is very easy to get your pockets picked in Lapa. The thieves are organized and will hit you on both sides and be gone with your stuff before you even realize it.
And the area behind Pizzaria Guanabara, and up around the famous steps of Lapa, is definitely dangerous after dark.
[QUOTE=Sprite13]Devilspinkick,
I have always been curious to stay in Centro (Flamengo/Catete/Gloria) area and I was interested in finding out more info about Hotel Florida and Hotel Gloria. Have you stayed there? How much was the diario there?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]
Actually that part of town isn´t the Centro but you go through it on the way to Centro (where 4X4, T-65, etc. is located).
Anyway, I´ve never stayed at Hotel Florida but I think their prices are usually around US$100 a night. Hotel Gloria is a bit more - can´t remember the price because it´s been a while since I´ve stayed there. Depending on exchange rates or current specials it can be a bit cheaper or quite pricey.
I remembered the name of the other hotel as I walked past it last night: it´s the Hotel Imperial. Last time I checked with them they were charging 140 Reais per night (less on weekends). It´s on the Rua do Catete and the Catete metro stop is only 150 meters away, plus there´s a branch of HSBC bank just a few doors down where you can draw out more dinheiro. Brazil is dealing with inflation so it seems that prices for everything has gotten higher & higher.
Keep in mind that if you speak with the management directly you can often get a significant discount off of the posted price. The place I stay at (which I´ll decline to mention) has a posted price of 120 Reais per night but I usually only pay 70 to 80 Reais. Away from the tourist areas and in other parts of Brazil this is common practice. I hope your Portuguese is pretty good.
Unfortunately I only have a couple of days left in Brazil and then I´ll turn my sights to the lovely beavers of Canada. Them French-Canadian chicks are something else. But tonight I´ll be making a stop at Quatro por Quatro.
- DSK
What is the best mid-priced area outside the touristy areas, where I might be able to rent a fully furnished apartment for a month or 2.
Just looking to get quiet and get away from the crime and tourist when I want.
Thanks guys
Vaughn
[QUOTE=Vaughnyb1]What is the best mid-priced area outside the touristy areas, where I might be able to rent a fully furnished apartment for a month or 2.
Just looking to get quiet and get away from the crime and tourist when I want.
Thanks guys
Vaughn[/QUOTE]
It really depends what you want. Tijuca is nice. Very non-touristy. Some of it is walking distance to VM. No beach though. And you need Porto to check the ads and get an apartment at knock-down rates.
Botogogo is a lovely area, very little crime and hardly any tourists. But it's not cheap. Advantage is you can book it thru the same agents that rent Copa apartments. Great for cinemas (3 arthouse, 2 multiplex), trendy bars and so on. Good shopping. Easy transport into town or Copa via Metro or buses. Very little gdp.
I think a lot of other places are either very expensive, like Botanico and Leblon, or cheerfully falling to bits, like Lapa and Catete.
You can also rent impressive places in Santa Teresa - sort of upmarket backpacker territory - but you have to navigate dodgy areas getting into town.
Across the water Niteroi is nice, non-touristy, pretty safe if you stay in the main areas, and reasonable amount of p4p.
But to be honest, if you know Rio, you know these options, and if you don't, the easiest non-touristy, reasonably prices area without [i]too[/i] much crime is Centro. It's where quite a few mongers base themselves after tiring of the Copa-Ipanema merry-go-round. You'll probably need basic Porto again to get an apartment, but you can get a GF hotel at a lot less than Copa, and have p4p on your doorstep as well.
As Devilspinkick says, turning up on the doorstep gives you lots of negotiating power that booking from afar doesn't. If necessary, book into a hostel or cheap hotel for a night or two so you can look at your options (this is the way a lot of Brasilians do it when visiting Rio).
Update on Casas de Massagem and Termas in Centro, pricerange R$ 10-85.
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Note: I have updated my list of cheap Centro Casas in Rio. Some old casas have moved or closed. I have added a couple of new casas. I guess that the list is useful to many of us. With a few exceptions the other forum members don’t seems to bother to report about new Centro casas. Therefore I didn’t bother to add to many new casas to the list.
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All the info and ratings are based on my experiences, in March 2009. Your experience of these casas might be totally different. In these casas the number of girls and the standard can change very quickly. Some casas might also close or move within a short period of time.
I've also made a new updated Centro Map,attached.
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I rated them A, B and C. A being over average, B being average and C under average.
Cabin:
A= Clean cabin, big bed, new sheets, A/C and shower possibility.
B= Decent cabin, small bed, A/C or ventilador.
C= Fast-sex-cabin, simple, dirty, smelly and noisy. No showers.
Service:
A= Receives visitors in a very nice and discreet way, girls presenting themselves in pleasant way, girls doing their best in the sex-act. Allows multiple pops.
B= Receives you fairly well. Girls giving a good service.
C= Girls lined up. Girls might be ignorant or having a bad attitude. Take a pick, fuck and leave.
Standard (on the girls):
A= Better than average, sometimes with some stunners.
B= Average standard.
C= Low end. Majority ugly with few exceptions.
Number:
The number of girls available. This number depends on the day of the week and the time you go there.
WV (Worth a Visit):
A= Definitely worth a visit. A very good chance of finding a nice girl.
B= Worth a visit if you have plenty of time. Don't have to high expectations. Might find something you’ll like.
C= Not worth a visit. Very small chances of finding a nice girl.
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Casas de Massagem and Termas, R$ 10-85.
1. Avenida Rio Branco 156, Edificio Central:
- Apto 3320: Cabin=A, Service=A, Standard=A, Number=8, WV=A
R$ 85/40 min, R$ 100/60 min
- Apto 2622 (old 3330): Cabin=A, Service=A, Standard=A, Number=8, WV=A
R$ 85/40 min, R$ 100/60 min
- Apto 2114: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=C, Number=5, WV=C
R$ 50/20 min, R$ 75/40 min, R$ 95/60 min
- Apto 1839: Cabin=A, Service=B, Standard=B, Number=4, WV=B
R$ 70/30 min, R$ 90/60 min
- Apto 1833: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=B, Number=4, WV=B
R$ 60/30 min, R$ 80/40 min, R$ 100/60 min
- Apto 1804: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=B, Number=3, WV=B
R$ 60/30 min, R$ 80/40 min
- Apto 1701 (old 1703): Cabin=A, Service=A, Standard=A, Number=5, WV=A
R$ 80/40 min, R$ 100/60 min
2. Avenida Rio Branco 185:
- Apto 2114: Cabin=B, Service=A, Standard=A, Number=15, WV=A
R$ 80/40 min, R$ 110/60 min
- Apto 1829: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=B, Number=3, WV=B
R$ 50/30 min, R$ 70/60 min
3. Avenida Rio Branco 181:
- Apto 210: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=C, Number=5, WV=C
R$ 60/30 min, R$ 90/60 min
4. Rua México 148:
- Apto 804: Cabin=C, Service=C, Standard=C, Number=3, WV=C
R$ 70/30 min, R$ 100/60 min
5. Rua Almirante Barroso 6:
- Apto 305: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=B, Number=5, WV=B
R$ 70/30 min, R$ 100/60 min
6. Rua Santa Lucia 405:
- Apto 429: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=C, Number=C; WV=C
R$ 30/1 pop no time
7. Rua da Carioca 59: 3 floors, 5 casas.
Cabin=C, Service=C, Standard=B-C, Number=25, WV=B
R$ 1/min
8. Rua da Carioca 40: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=B, Number=15, WV=B
R$ 15/10 min, R$ 30/20 min, R$ 40/30 min
9. Rua Uruguaiana 24: 5 floors.
Cabin=C, Service=C, Standard=B-C, Number=30, WV=C
R$ 15/10 min, R$ 20/20 min, R$ 30/20 min
10. Rua do Ouvidor 130:
- Apto 911: Cabin=B, Service=C, Standard=C, Number=4, WV=C
R$ 20/20 min, R$ 30/30 min
- Apto 707: Cabin=B, Service=A, Standard=B, Number=5, WV=A
R$ 20/1 pop no time
11. Rua Buenos Aires 85: 5 floors.
Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=B, Number=60, WV=A
R$ 1/min
12. Rua Buenos Aires 93:
- Apto 513: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=C, Number=4, WV=C
R$ 70/30 min, R$ 90/60 min
13. Rua Buenos Aires 113: Cabin=C, Service=C, Standard=C, Number=20, WV=C
R$ 1/min
14. Travessa do Ouvidor 37: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=B, Number=15, WV=B
R$ 40/20 min, R$ 60/30 min
15. Rua da Quitanda 81 (Club Gatinha): Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=B, Number=20, WV=B
Entrada=R$ 10, R$ 70/30 min, R$ 100/40 min, R$ 120/60 min
16. Avenida Presidente Vargas 590:
- Apto 1005: Cabin=A, Service=A, Standard=B, Number=2, WV=B
R$ 40/30 min, R$ 60/60 min
- Apto 817: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=B, Number=2, WV=C
R$ 70/30 min, R$ 80/60 min
17. Avenida Presidente Vargas 482:
- Apto 914: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=B, Number=4, WV=B
R$ 60/60 min (incl massage+HJ, BJ cost +R$ 20, no penetration)
18. Rua Conceicao 116: Cabin=C, Service=B, Standard=C, Number=15, WV=C
R$ 40/40 min, R$ 60/60 min
19. Rua do Acre 120: Cabin=C, Service=C, Standard=C, Number=4, WV=C
R$ 15/10 min, R$ 20/20 min, R$ 30/30 min
20. Rua Leandro Martins 3: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=C, Number=7, WV=C
R$ 20/20 min, R$ 30/30 min
21. Rua Leandro Martins 5: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=B, Number=10, WV=B
R$ 15/15 min, R$ 20/20 min, R$ 30/30 min
22. Rua do Acre 61 (Whiskeria Aquarius): Number=20, WV=B
R$ 70/20 min, R$ 90/30 min, R$ 110/40 min, R$ 130/60 min. (Cheaper before 4PM).
23. Praca Mauá, Florida: Stripclub with cabins. Cabin=A, Service=A, Standard=A, Number=15, WV=A
Entrada=R$ 10, R$ 70/30 min, R$ 120/60 min.
24. Praca Mauá, Escandinavia: Stripclub. WV=B
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* Vila Mimosa: 72 casas.
Cabin=B and C, Service=C (some B), Standard=(A-)C, Number=roughly 1500, counting all shifts and weekendworkers. WV=A
Gems to be found.
R$ 25/30 min, R$ 1/condom
Some casas with better cabins will cost you R$ 2 more.
Hotel Canário (motel)=R$ 25/4 hs. Girl will charge you R$ 40-60/2 hs at Canário.
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My personal choice.
Besides of being a big VM-fan I obviously do a lot of mongering in Centro. My favourite bottom-low place for a cheap quickie is Rua Buenos Aires 85 (list no: 11). I almost always manages to find a nice girl there.
When I feel the need for a session in a relaxed and clean environment I usually choose one of the Av Rio Branco casas (list no: 1 and 2).
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My personal advice:
I prefer to visit the centro casas just before noon, when the girls have just arrived. That way I have the opportunity of being the first client of the day. If you go there at lunch time the good casas might be crowded and the best girls all occupied.
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I have made a new updated Centro map. Because of the size limit for posting pictures/JPG is 640x480 I couldn't do the map in JPG-format. I did it in PDF-format. Unfortunately the size limit for posting PDF is 390,6 kb. Because of this the map is a little bit blurry.
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As I earlier posted various maps in this forum it can be a bit confusing which map that's the latest and most updated one. Because of this I also attach the most updated Vila Mimosa and Copacabana maps in this report. This way you'll find all my maps in one place.
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Attached:
- Sperto, Vila Mimosa, Directions, Map, JPG
- Sperto, Vila Mimosa, Detailed Alleys, MAP, JPG
- Sperto, Centro, Map, Updated March 2009, PDF
- Sperto, Vila Mimosa, Directions, Map, PDF
- Sperto, Copacabana, Map, PDF
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I hope the list will be helpful in your mongering in Centro of Rio. Centro has many more cheap casas de massagem than those mentioned in this list. We all appreciate if you report about new casas not mentioned here.
Cheers
Sperto
P.S THE CENTRO MAP IS THE FIRST ATTACHED PDF-FILE (that means the third of the five attachments)!
[QUOTE=Sperto]Update on Casas de Massagem and Termas in Centro, pricerange R$ 10-85.
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Note: I have updated my list of cheap Centro Casas in Rio. Some old casas have moved or closed. I have added a couple of new casas. I guess that the list is useful to many of us. With a few exceptions the other forum members don’t seems to bother to report about new Centro casas. Therefore I didn’t bother to add to many new casas to the list.
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As always, you've outdone yourself. You are truly a fountain of knowledge. To further acknowledge your exploits, I will be making the rounds in Centro next Monday afternoon. Sorry you can't be there, but I'll make you proud........
ryjer
[QUOTE=Dumb N Dumber]I hear all the criticism from some of you guys and it has given me some pause in this, but ultimately, I know I am right in my statements about her. There are really only 2 people on the planet that know all the details of what happened between this girl and myself. It is easy to criticize when you were not directly involved and when you do not know all of the facts. I don’t blame anyone that has written critically about my actions. I welcome the dialog and it does make me think about all this.[/QUOTE]
Here's a contact in Brazil that may offer you some info. I know him from another forum. His name is Jose Santiago, [url]www.lawofficeinbrazil.com[/url]
ryjer
[QUOTE=Ryjerrob]Lapa is a great area full of people and culture. I was there on a Friday night with some friends, and it started out slow, but the evening got better. One guy in particular stayed there with me until 9am, still drinking. There were about 15 people left over from a street party still jamming on make-shift instruments. It was a blast. The guy I was with spoke no Portuguese, but ended up taking some 20's something girl to breakfast with us. At no point did it seem dangerous.
ryjer[/QUOTE]Lapa is surely one of the most interesting area in Rio for me. I was in Rio about 2 months ago and went to Lapa at least 5x during my 10night visit. The Bars are lovely, people are nice, you find music of any taste (Rock, Latin, Oldies etc.). Though I speak only a few portuguese words, I came along very well with the local people and the bartenders. I ended up one night Bar-hoping with 2 nice Brazilian non GDP (I think they were secretaries) and had a wonderful night with them (no sex, just having fun, flirting and laughing). Definitely a place to visit in Rio. I felt save all the time in Lapa.
Regards,
Vandeta
[QUOTE=Sperto]Update on Casas de Massagem and Termas in Centro, pricerange R$ 10-85.
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Note: I have updated my list of cheap Centro Casas in Rio. Some old casas have moved or closed. I have added a couple of new casas. I guess that the list is useful to many of us. With a few exceptions the other forum members don’t seems to bother to report about new Centro casas. Therefore I didn’t bother to add to many new casas to the list.
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All the info and ratings are based on my experiences, in March 2009. Your experience of these casas might be totally different. In these casas the number of girls and the standard can change very quickly. Some casas might also close or move within a short period of time.
I've also made a new updated Centro Map,attached.
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Thank you, You are the yellow pages/ google earth of centro and VM.. I will put the maps to good use in June.
Ace
I am headed to Rio May 28-June 2. If anyone has any good contacts or recommendations please PM me. I haven't been to Brazil in 2 years and want to find some new stuff.
I love 4 x 4. Not a huge fan of Help. Please let me know if you have any good contacts or recommendations.
Also, let me know if anyone wants to hangout May 28 - June 2 with me and my wingman. Lots of fun!
I will definitely return the favor for any information.
Thanks.
Is Help Closed Yet or Still Open?
[QUOTE=Acenva][QUOTE=Sperto]Update on Casas de Massagem and Termas in Centro, pricerange R$ 10-85.
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Note: I have updated my list of cheap Centro Casas in Rio. Some old casas have moved or closed. I have added a couple of new casas. I guess that the list is useful to many of us. With a few exceptions the other forum members don’t seems to bother to report about new Centro casas. Therefore I didn’t bother to add to many new casas to the list.
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All the info and ratings are based on my experiences, in March 2009. Your experience of these casas might be totally different. In these casas the number of girls and the standard can change very quickly. Some casas might also close or move within a short period of time.
I've also made a new updated Centro Map,attached.
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Thank you, You are the yellow pages/ google earth of centro and VM.. I will put the maps to good use in June.
Ace[/QUOTE]My buddie, I know you will. When I grow up can I be your wingman?
[QUOTE=Sperto]Update on Casas de Massagem and Termas in Centro, pricerange R$ 10-85.
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Note: I have updated my list of cheap Centro Casas in Rio. Some old casas have moved or closed. I have added a couple of new casas. I guess that the list is useful to many of us. With a few exceptions the other forum members don’t seems to bother to report about new Centro casas. Therefore I didn’t bother to add to many new casas to the list.
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My personal advice:
I prefer to visit the centro casas just before noon, when the girls have just arrived. That way I have the opportunity of being the first client of the day. If you go there at lunch time the good casas might be crowded and the best girls all occupied.
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I have made a new updated Centro map. Because of the size limit for posting pictures/JPG is 640x480 I couldn't do the map in JPG-format. I did it in PDF-format. Unfortunately the size limit for posting PDF is 390,6 kb. Because of this the map is a little bit blurry.
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As I earlier posted various maps in this forum it can be a bit confusing which map that's the latest and most updated one. Because of this I also attach the most updated Vila Mimosa and Copacabana maps in this report. This way you'll find all my maps in one place.
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Attached:
- Sperto, Vila Mimosa, Directions, Map, JPG
- Sperto, Vila Mimosa, Detailed Alleys, MAP, JPG
- Sperto, Centro, Map, Updated March 2009, PDF
- Sperto, Vila Mimosa, Directions, Map, PDF
- Sperto, Copacabana, Map, PDF
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I hope the list will be helpful in your mongering in Centro of Rio. Centro has many more cheap casas de massagem than those mentioned in this list. We all appreciate if you report about new casas not mentioned here.
Cheers,
Sperto
P.S THE CENTRO MAP IS THE FIRST ATTACHED PDF-FILE (that means the third of the five attachments)![/QUOTE]I joined last night so that I could search for information on Centro and Vila Mimosa (yea, I'm a bottom fisher, a sturgeon of sorts). Indeed, I spent a few hours collecting pearls of wisdom, including your terrific maps.
Then I log on today to find this post pulling it all together. Whatever. I'm happy.