FKK Arabella / Villa Venus / Sauna Grimberg - NRW AO Clubs

[QUOTE=VitoCorleone;1916138]Yes it's fully nude & didn't bother visiting recently.[/QUOTE]Went there yesterday. 12 or 13 girls available. Three fuckable: Carla, 20 year old petite Rom cutie who tried to use a condom in the room after she said she was AO during the interview, shorted me a few minutes on the time, and told me she didn't do public bjs because shy was and later gave one to some old German guy; a 19 year-old Rom brunette with thick glasses with whom I had a very good GFE session; and a blonde that wasn't really my type but nice enough.

By the way, Verena, along with Arabella, have solved the problem of nobody paying Euro 70 for an hour when they could do two half hours for Euro 60 by changing the Euro 30 session to 25 minutes and being strict on the time.

[QUOTE=Neurosynth;1919090]Any recent visits? Sounds like Dea is permanently at Luderland, and she was the main attraction at Annabella before this year.[/QUOTE]I believe it's still closed. Dea wasn't around 2-3 weeks ago.

Arrived 6:45 PM after going to Grimberg. 11-12 girls, two fuckable: Diana, a moderately cute 21-year old Rom brunette girl next door type; short blonde, Hungarian, 25-30 years old, always busy. Euro 25/30 min and Euro 70/60 min.

Discovered on leaving that entry is Euro 15 after 7 PM.

I've done Fun Park, F35 and Grimberg on previous trips and next time I may try Luderland, Verena, Romantika & Arabella. I don't think that I want to add Villa Venus or La Luna to the mix but that might be a mistake? From reports it sounds as if the RTC clubs will all be very similar, obviously Luderland being an FKK will look better. I'm expecting each club to have at least 10 girls some of whom will be attractive enough and that the day of week and time of day will have little consequence.

Do these clubs have the photo's with the girls that list their services? Are there any differences between these clubs? Thanks.

[QUOTE=Downandup;1922482]I'm expecting each club to have at least 10 girls some of whom will be attractive enough[/QUOTE]Don't expect too much, you can also find less than 10 girls.

Boomer10 reports that Anabella in Hennef has reopened yesterday and linked to a report that some of the girls from Luderland have relocated back there:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1089-General-Info&p=1924464&viewfull=1#post1924464.[/URL]

[QUOTE=Wanking;1914733]Tom,

There is another way, from Duisburg HBF-.

Take STR 903 direction Dinslaken to Landschaftspark dur 12 minutes.

Then Bus 910 direction Meiderich to Max Planck strasse dur 10 minutes.

From there its a 500 meter walk.

I got this from excellent DB Navigator app from the app store that I have been using for years.

Club address -.

Konrad-Adenauer-Ring 17,47167 Duisburg.[/QUOTE]Does anyone know if you would typically find taxis waiting outside the Oberhausen Rheinl Hbf? It looks like VV would be a short cab ride from there, and that would be most convenient.

Thanks for any advice!

I visited Luderland and was surprised at the facilities. It was previously a saunaclub so it has a decent outside garden and plenty of space. 30 euro entry but no food to speak of. About 10 girls, of whom 30% were slim. The girls tended to be glued to their sofas whilst carrying on conversations with each other, ignoring the white bears on their respective sofas. As I like to have the girls show some interest in getting my money I left without going to a room, even though it was only 30 euros for 25 minutes. Several of the girls were very doable, but the atmosphere didn't suit me. There seemed to be no public action surprisingly.

I liked the music: manele.

Optimist,

I'm going to presume that Luderland has the same ownership as the RTC clubs. They all seem to be no approach clubs and it's up to you to talk with a girl or else they stay on their sofa chatting to their neighbours. My experience from elsewhere is that once you pick a girl, sit down for a little chat you will get a blow job on the couch before you head to the room. Did that happen while you were there or did you see couples leaving for a room?

We might have crossed paths today as Luderland was going to be my final stop on my Germany trip, instead I went to Golden Time. Again.

Yes, same ownership.

I was disappointed to see that the couch blow jobs were very limited time wise.

I'm sure you'll have a good time I just wasn't fired up enough to take a girl, although I did talk briefly to several.

Don't forget that you're paying only 30 €, you can't expect that the girl will suck you for 5 or 10 minutes in the couch.

You can expect her to blow you for 10 minutes on the couch. But then room time will be limited to another 20 minutes.

HB.

Standard session time now is 25 minutes in most places (or an hour for 70), presales can be fairly rushed, but if you ask to stay a bit longer most will probably do so. Just don't go declining the zimmer question too often. In most of these clubs you can also just do the session on th couh itself.

BTW, if you go to the room, that's when the time starts.

Impressed with the days spent at the FKKs (Oase, Sharks, Mainhattan) but my true love is AO clubs (and the only place I can have sex).

After a few days at Dietzenbach (will report on that club once I've left) - headed north to NRW.

Grimberg.

Was as good as ever. Nice mix of mostly 6's, maybe one 7. It's the 'you get to shag the girl-next-door' type of club for me. Most pretty in their own way and all had really good service and attitude. Hell. They all are beautiful compared to how I must look to them! Doh. Always forget how small this club is, but it sort of works. With the porch chill-out area. Did 4 girls (one girl twice) and will surely be back this trip. Excellent.

Verena.

A few places on the board guys mentioned this was an AO club (unlike it's neighbors. Luderland, Aplerbeck, Neby which I assume are covered) - I made the trek to Verena this afternoon. Another small club with 7 girls available. A few rather good looking. (high 7's). Took Karina who gave me great BB service and is a super fun gal. Would recommend her to anyone who likes to play.

Then made a terrible mistake. Only 2 girls on the couches for almost 30 min, was bored (more than horny) and was checking out Patricia (blonde, skinny, small) - she had a bad vibe (not much positive eye contact, no smiling). But she kept opening up her legs to play with her pussy / add moisturizer etc. So I was getting mixed signals as she would look at me while she was doing it. Maybe she just has a face' I thought. Some girls do.

On the couch she wasn't terribly playful, no kissing, but eager to hit the room. Once in. I licked her pussy for a bit (nice small quim) and asked for a BJ. She demurred as if she didn't like to do it. Then she proved she didn't like to do it by giving a totally lackluster BJ for about 3 min. Asked her to stop (laughed it off) and had her spread on the bed. Then she pulled out a condom. WTF. I was like a vampire at the site of whatever Jesus-Cross sits atop the hill in Rio. She told me it's 'normal' and 'natural' to wear a condom and 'all the girls wear condoms at this club. Am I crazy!' - I was like. Let's just end it. She freaked out. Terrible stinky face, angry, (furious really) as we walked out was yelling at the other girls. I (of course) paid her the full 30 e regardless. Because I didn't ask up front, and because hell. She saw me naked. That's worth 30 e alone to live with that. She didn't calm down and acted like I was a monster.

Sat around for another grueling 90 min waiting to session with Karina but the two times she was free guys actually jumped up and got her. Was too terrified to try another girl. Didn't want the other ones freaking out too if I asked for AO. I wasn't getting dirty looks (like I did when I inquired about AO in Mainhattan) - but just felt like shit. I remember Patricia saying something about being in a bad mood 'hate men' & 'men talk too much'.

Later before I left I saw her doting on a german guy. And will say this is a smaller club, probably more used to locals. I surely did not get the same level of service the locals did. (unlike Grimberg and others). So Verena is not a full AO club. And avoid Patricia like the plague if she's in a mood. The worst attitude of any girls I've seen in Germany.

One last interesting tidbit. Karina took a condom with her to the bedroom as well, unwrapped it and stretched it out then laid it out in the trash can but never asked or even looked at it during our session. I almost felt like they were putting condoms in trash in case of a raid? It would look like they used them? Or in case of other girls or cleaners? No idea. First time I've ever seen this behavior. There was a huge bowl of condoms at check-in and I watched all the girls grab one when headed for session.

Arabella.

Finally hit Arabella tonight. First time to this club. Another great small venue. Maybe as large as Grimberg but laid out differently. Had a great time with all the girls, and the guys that showed up seemed to be a good group as well. Only took 2 girls but one of them twice. Unfortunately forgot her name. Adda or something? Tall. Thin, and in my book a solid beauty, model quality. I mean I was fucking in love with her. Just such a beautiful gazelle. I believe she said she came from Grim. This so far is my fave AO club with the exception of Dietz.

Everyone was nice and a good vibe, even the manager. No bullshit, very friendly. The other girl I took was equally enthusiastic and kept trying to get me to fuck her harder.

Germany is a great country. And the guys have built a fantastic scene here. Not sure if others tip. But I didn't, I've seen what overspending does to attitudes in the East. Just grateful it's here to have some fun in.

Last week I visited nearly all RTCs plus M-Exclusive in Dulmen. If I recall well, I saw 8 girls in Luderland, 8 in Grimberg, 9-11 in Verena, 9 in Venus, 9 in Dulmen, 5-6 in Romantika, for F39 I posted in its thread. These were the girls counted on the spot, I might be wrong of 1-2 units, given that not all of them have photos, but since I care only about the fuckable ones, I didn't bother checking everyone properly. I know some 8 girls were also in Arabella and 6 in Hennef. It is not summertime nor Christmas, it would be interesting to know where they are all gone, and I even met a few new faces, specially in Dortmund and Leverkusen.

Normal entrance price in every RTC was 30 euros, no prepaid room in advance. Only exceptions were Leverkusen, changing very often happy hour, I think it was after 7 pm, and Romantika, whose happy hour was 10-15 and 17-closing time (yes, you read right, no mistype), 10 euros both clubs. Ads on Bild: for Verena you need to come with a copy from Munsterland, but your plate number must be from 6 selected places (so we fucking foreigners are totally cut out from any possible benefit).

Romantika is the only place where girls don't have personal room and can choose with customers where to go. Also, it is the only club, with Grimberg, where rooms last 30 minutes instead of 25.

In general, I had the impression of business going down for girls and clubs. I remember also in the past some girls saying it is normal that towards the end of the month they have less work because people finish the money (30 euros? Is it Germany or Bangladesh?). But I was there until 2 days ago and I didn't fight for a free couch, once I was even asked to leave by the girls at 9,45 pm since I was the last customer.

Some more will follow.