Sao Paulo Reports

[QUOTE=DreamCarnarvon;2360511]Did you screen the Scandallo girl? I normally don't screen girls, even at 4 x 4. My strategy has been to take the girls for 30 minute sessions since its the price is so cheap, especially at the clinicas. If they perform up to my standards then if I repeat with them the next time I will go for longer sessions.

But I feel at Scandallo, because the price is R600-800, that screening is going to be required. Not just what they won't allow but also details, like their BJ skills, how affectionate they are going to be once in the bed, etc etc. Sure they can lie but at least I can call them out during the session if they don't perform. Nothing worse then overpaying for a session and not getting satisfied.

BTW what is Oro?[/QUOTE]I hear you DC. Yes, I "screened" her. As you said, girls can mislead about their skill levels. My strategy with her was to ask if she offered A levels. I thinks she said No, so that could have been an indicator. My logic was if she did, she's a bit more liberal and free with everything else. She said she did give BBBJ. In retrospect I could have asked how long each part of the program could last, but that seems like a vibe killer. I still had fun with her. She was down to earth. Pretty. She was a getting a lot of attention and I think maybe she doesn't have to do as much to get clients? Idk. She was cool. Her skills in the bed just didn't blow me away. Her BBBJ maybe lasted a minute if that. I was turned on talking to her. It was getting late, so finally decided to dive in. Don't regret it, just wouldn't repeat with her. I don't remember her name.

I've gotten amazing service (Everything included) at Scandallo to very mediocre service there. So especially based on the one time I got lukewarm service there, I make it a point to screen. It's not an exact science. Your strategy for the clinicas is good. At the end of the day there are variables at play and trail and error is one of them.

My very first experience at Scandallo was phenomenal so that is the standard I am chasing.

Oro is a (pricier) clinica in Vila Olmpia.

[QUOTE=Beleriand;2360558]Hello,

I'm back in SP after many years and can't find any recent info. On my usual spot, Gauguin.

Would anyone have any info. on what's going on these days in this club?

Thank you very much!

B.[/QUOTE]Last month I was Sao Paulo and stayed at Sheraton Hotel that is pretty close from Cafe Gauguin, passed in front of it some times. By what seems, it was still working.

[QUOTE=Beleriand;2360558]Hello,

I'm back in SP after many years and can't find any recent info. On my usual spot, Gauguin.

Would anyone have any info. on what's going on these days in this club?

Thank you very much!

B.[/QUOTE]Google to the rescue:

[URL]http://www.novagauguin.com.br[/URL]

[QUOTE=MixedSalad07;2360623]I hear you DC. Yes, I "screened" her. As you said, girls can mislead about their skill levels. My strategy with her was to ask if she offered A levels. I thinks she said No, so that could have been an indicator. My logic was if she did, she's a bit more liberal and free with everything else. She said she did give BBBJ. In retrospect I could have asked how long each part of the program could last, but that seems like a vibe killer. I still had fun with her. She was down to earth. Pretty. She was a getting a lot of attention and I think maybe she doesn't have to do as much to get clients? Idk. She was cool. Her skills in the bed just didn't blow me away. Her BBBJ maybe lasted a minute if that. I was turned on talking to her. It was getting late, so finally decided to dive in. Don't regret it, just wouldn't repeat with her. I don't remember her name.

I've gotten amazing service (Everything included) at Scandallo to very mediocre service there. So especially based on the one time I got lukewarm service there, I make it a point to screen. It's not an exact science. Your strategy for the clinicas is good. At the end of the day there are variables at play and trail and error is one of them.

My very first experience at Scandallo was phenomenal so that is the standard I am chasing.

Oro is a (pricier) clinica in Vila Olmpia.[/QUOTE]There are always some "bad apples" among the good ones any where in the world. But my success rate of hitting the good ones have been great with Brazilian women, so Brazil is the top spot for me. You did your due diligence but sometimes a few of them will still fall through the crack. I feel comfortable with my strategy for the clinicas, although I think it should only be used with the clinica girls. In a club like 4 x 4 or Scandallo, where you can actually go up and converse with the girls, some sort of screening should be done. Your experience has given me a great idea. Instead of ask the screening questions in a direct manner and possibly killing the vibe, I think its better if they can be inserted subtlety and indirectly during the conversation. I am a believer that if you treat a prostitute like a prostitute, she will most likely behave like a prostitute in bed. But if you treat her like a normal girl, you can, at least temporarily make her think of herself as your lover / GF and get that holy grail GFE.

I used to be one of those guys that fucks like a jack rabbit. No passion needed. But I'm mostly pass that stage and now indulge in slow sensual sex that's full of affection and passion (apologies if this is TMI).

Never heard of Oro. I may have to check it out when I return to SP. What is the pricing structure there?

[QUOTE=DreamCarnarvon;2360994]There are always some "bad apples" among the good ones any where in the world. But my success rate of hitting the good ones have been great with Brazilian women, so Brazil is the top spot for me. You did your due diligence but sometimes a few of them will still fall through the crack. I feel comfortable with my strategy for the clinicas, although I think it should only be used with the clinica girls. In a club like 4 x 4 or Scandallo, where you can actually go up and converse with the girls, some sort of screening should be done. Your experience has given me a great idea. Instead of ask the screening questions in a direct manner and possibly killing the vibe, I think its better if they can be inserted subtlety and indirectly during the conversation. I am a believer that if you treat a prostitute like a prostitute, she will most likely behave like a prostitute in bed. But if you treat her like a normal girl, you can, at least temporarily make her think of herself as your lover / GF and get that holy grail GFE.

I used to be one of those guys that fucks like a jack rabbit. No passion needed. But I'm mostly pass that stage and now indulge in slow sensual sex that's full of affection and passion (apologies if this is TMI).

Never heard of Oro. I may have to check it out when I return to SP. What is the pricing structure there?[/QUOTE]I think you make some good points. That's what happened the time I got great service: we kind of just got to know each other a bit. Eventually we had to cross the pricing issues but it didn't chill things out. She threw in things I didn't even know to ask for at that time.

As for ORO its +- 500 depending on how you pay. I've had amazing experiences there, so I check it out when I'm on that side of town. It's pricier for sure but I don't mind paying more if I can relax and the experience is up to par. My worst session there would have been my best one in Europe.

Most have silicone breast. Nothing outrageous though. They tend to be more dolled up. Lean. You won't find anyone too thick there. I'm not saying the girls are top model skinny. You just won't find anyone built like Cherokee d'ass there. YEMV.

This is my first time in the city and I realize not being fluent in Portuguese is brutal. I knew it was Winter time but I wasn't expecting it to be this cool. So far this city isn't stacking up to Rio circa 2015. I liked how you could chat / interview / party with chicas before the deed. Public transit is not for the faint of heart if it isn't within a 10 min. Walk within the metro station. Walking around town I would be surprised if I saw more than 5 hotties a hour. I checked out Tangara. I went here because guys spooked me Brooklin's lineup was underwhelming. Many Asian gents hanging out. The lineup was about 10 girls. Naturally the youngest and hottest chick (7.5) was busy. The other chicks were 6. 5's or below except for the tall 7 I considered until I saw her gut. I'm not a local so I'm not going to sit around for 2 hours to see their full lineup. It was already 8 o'clock. I decided I didn't mind spending a little extra coin so I ubered to Abobbara a shade before 7 p the next day. I liked the first menina Pollie and the 8th chick Julia. Between the two the madrina recommended Julia. Julia is tall and was wearing a sexy short dress. She said she is 23 and speaks Espanol and has medium brown hair. Possibly light braces on her teeth. We did CBJ, mish, CG, doggie. Stunningly she becomes tired during the deed. Being the nice guy I am and chalking it up to lack of chemistry I let her hit the shower at the 40 min. Mark. I did not tip even though I tipped all the Colombianas at the casas. The sex was so so. Not remotely like the hottest sex on the continent I was expecting. Especially since I could've had 3 comparable Colombians for that price. I'm not sure what market value is for a solid 8+ but I'm beginning to think around $R400 to 800. I am not as picky as usual but I don't have the time to check out all the clinicas and trying to find a gem. I went to a fast fuck place in Rio that had a better lineup than Abobbora. I think a negative to SP is that the girls have a loyal following with the local men so a gringo is not the end of the world. Guys here have no problem spending R170 on 6's. I like the city but I haven't been impressed with the females so far. I know some guys hit regular chicks on Brazil cupid etc. So that mitigates the pressure for finding a match at a clinica and also she can show him the city and they can spend more than a hour together. I will do my research and hit pricier spots this weekend.

[QUOTE=Cool;2361429]Guys here have no problem spending R170 on 6's. I like the city but I haven't been impressed with the females so far. I know some guys hit regular chicks on Brazil cupid etc. So that mitigates the pressure for finding a match at a clinica and also she can show him the city and they can spend more than a hour together. I will do my research and hit pricier spots this weekend.[/QUOTE]If you want consistent 8+ girls, you need to go to the top boates at night or book some well-reviewed escorts. Researching escorts will take a little time. The hot and popular escorts usually start at 400 reals. Some of the girls on PhotoAcompanhantes show their face. I believe sometimes the photos are verified.

If you don't have time, you could post a profile (i.e. tall, blonde, curvy, natural body, few tattoos, anal, etc). Someone might be able to send you in the right direction for an escort who meets that profile.

It's Sao Paulo! They have everything. ;)

Thought my SP buddies might enjoy these funny moments from the last year. Due to not speaking the same native language.

Thifany. My Brazilian unicorn that I flew to London. Two days in she confesses to me she is not sleeping well due to my snoring. So we agree to get some earplugs when we are out souvenir shopping. As we walk down the street after a few shops she says "I almost forgot. I need to get tampons!”

And I think oh fuck me in the ass, really? I mean we have theee days left and she gets her period?

After we start talking about where to get them etc it becomes clear she means EARPLUGS. Just an error in translation! Well I guess they both fill holes, so maybe the same in Português ? Anyhow. We both got a laugh.

Kendall. Diva London. I had been with Kendall the prior year. So when I showed up at her flat she recognized me. But she couldn't quite place me. Then she says as only a frank Romanian WG would: "oh I remember you. You fuck a lot. ".

So I say, yeah I mean I travel a lot and so I see a lot of girls. And she says "no no. I mean you fuck a very long time!" Hahaha. LOL. Cracked me up.

Cambria. Diva London. We are getting into it and she is on top and starts licking and sucking my ear. I want to encourage her so I tell her it feels really good. To which she says "Yeah. Old people like that. ".

Mildly offended I offer, "well I'm not THAT old. ".

And she laughs and says "I didn't say OLD people. I said ALL people ". Hahaha. OMG I laughed so hard.

Anyhow just a few of my lost in translation moments.

[QUOTE=Cool;2361429]This is my first time in the city and I realize not being fluent in Portuguese is brutal. I knew it was Winter time but I wasn't expecting it to be this cool. So far this city isn't stacking up to Rio circa 2015. I liked how you could chat / interview / party with chicas before the deed. Public transit is not for the faint of heart if it isn't within a 10 min. Walk within the metro station. Walking around town I would be surprised if I saw more than 5 hotties a hour. I checked out Tangara. I went here because guys spooked me Brooklin's lineup was underwhelming. Many Asian gents hanging out. The lineup was about 10 girls. Naturally the youngest and hottest chick (7.5) was busy. The other chicks were 6. 5's or below except for the tall 7 I considered until I saw her gut. I'm not a local so I'm not going to sit around for 2 hours to see their full lineup. It was already 8 o'clock. I decided I didn't mind spending a little extra coin so I ubered to Abobbara a shade before 7 p the next day. I liked the first menina Pollie and the 8th chick Julia. Between the two the madrina recommended Julia. Julia is tall and was wearing a sexy short dress. She said she is 23 and speaks Espanol and has medium brown hair. Possibly light braces on her teeth. We did CBJ, mish, CG, doggie. Stunningly she becomes tired during the deed. Being the nice guy I am and chalking it up to lack of chemistry I let her hit the shower at the 40 min. Mark. I did not tip even though I tipped all the Colombianas at the casas. The sex was so so. Not remotely like the hottest sex on the continent I was expecting. Especially since I could've had 3 comparable Colombians for that price. I'm not sure what market value is for a solid 8+ but I'm beginning to think around $R400 to 800..[/QUOTE]If you are in a rush better have a local wigman.

After one month in Buenos Aires I am back in Sao Paulo. Love the city of Buenos Aires but the mongering scene there is just not really that great. Only pulled the trigger 4 times and all of them were girls screened on Whatsapp. 4 ok sessions but nothing compared to Brazil. The bar and cafe scene are really dead and getting non pro's with minimal Spanish wasn't even in the cards. Although there were many traffic stopping Chica's walking around the streets. Shit I gained 12 pounds in one month. I couldn't help my self trying all of the great Paradillas, Northern Argentina Cazuelas, and Locros! Buenos Aires has arguably some of the best Pizza I have ever tasted. Only negative thing it was fucking freezing most of the days. I lived in the Colorado mountains for over 15 years and was never colder than the one month I spent in Buenos Aires.

OK first day back in Sao Paulo and I was horny as hell. 5 pm and started walking towards downtown, I passed a club called Skorpios (R. Nestor Pestana). I had never seen this place but I think it used to be where the old Kilt club was located. So I asked at the door what was going on. I thought it was a strip club but turns out it's a swinger club. Opens from 4 PM to 10 PM every day. OK WTF. R50 entry fee and they have a first floor bar and on the second floor 2 large beds. One bed open and the other behind a door which could be left open. Now for the clientele. Roughly about 20 guys and about 10 girls. All of the girls ranged from Hippo to Water Buffalo and way up there. Lots of tit grabbing, butt slapping, and surprisingly photos being taken but no real fucking. Thank God! Left after 1 beer and the barmaid would have been an interesting option if she was available. Asked if there is a 'best night' and got the standard Brazilian response 'mas o menos' every night.

Haven't heard much talk about the trash clubs in Sao Paulo but I had to unload big time, so after the freak show, I headed to American Bar at 345 Sao Joao. I had been meaning to try this place and thought this was a good time to explore. For those of you not familiar with the place it is 3 bars on different floors and then the bedrooms on the floors above them. The place is like Club 116 in Rio but much larger. Arrived about 6 pm and the place was packed on all floors. About 40 or 45 girls and maybe just as many guys. About 4 or 5 of them were solid 8's which surprised me. The rest ranged from 2 to 6 with a few 7's mixed in. Music not blaring loud so you can have a decent conversation. My hooker Portuguese is much better than my Spanish. Ordered a beer and almost immediately the idea of a dupla hit me. I haven't had one on my whole South American trip which I had started in May. So after my first beer and talking to a few Garotas, I decided on a real young thing (7) with huge tits. Who surprisingly spoke perfect English. I explained what I wanted and for her to pick a second girl. She picked her friend with even bigger tits. OK perfect. 30 minutes for R120 total for the 2 of them. Onto the upper floor bedrooms and was expecting those little cubicles with a small COT but was shocked to see a large bedroom with a queen. Lot's of room to move around. Yeah baby. I'm back in Brazil! Just a great time with 2 energetic young pieces of ass. I was juggling and sucking more tit than an entire ward of new born babies.

Why did I spent so much time in Buenos Aires? Oh well. I have another 2 months in Brazil with Ubatuba, Cabo Frio, Rio, and Fortaleza still planned. Not done with Sao Paulo for sure. Been to a lot of the clinicas here and some Rua Augusta boates and will definitely be doing them again. My favorite so far was Vani's Way, the lineup wouldn't stop. So much to choose from. But yesterday was really a lot of fun. I have another trash place on my to do list at are. Barão de Limeira, 134. It is the same setup as Uruguiana 24 in Rio. I was there just over a month ago and had a great time. It can be kind of intimidating because I really stick out in these places but what the hell. I don't bother any one and they don't bother me. Well that's all for now. I just have to try and figure out how I'm going to lose this weight with my love for Beer, Churrasco, and Feijoada!

RioHeart.

[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto;2361988]If you are in a rush better have a local wigman.[/QUOTE]That has dawned on me all week. Uber will have to be my Wingman to avoid traffic.

Thanks Wyatt for your advice. I decided to think outside the box and try a Prive. Made my maiden voyage to Prive Morambi. I was nervous because I didn't find any recent reports on this place. Lots of nearby shopping centers. 10 meninas for the presentation with 4-5 7's. That works. I chose Monica. Petite and cute. 27 years old. Some reason I thought she was Asian-Brazilian the first two times I saw her. She is not. And I didn't come here looking for hot Asian-Brasilenas even though that would work. Performance 7. 5/10. CBJ, mish, CG, doggie. I was happy with the performance and tipped her. I don't understand the local language but it seem my options were half hour for 150 or 2 hours for 350. This trip my endurance is crazy so a hour is nothing for me. I thought since I'm here I might as well do round 2 with another chica since the uber ride was already a sunk expense. I chose the tall, mulata, with died blonde hair, nose ring that was the first girl for my second presentation. Somehow the reception can't remember the first girl out of 4. Even crazier she is the tallest and the only one with a nose ring. When my second choice stepped out I decided to go with the flow. That has happened a few times this trip. I chose a shorty name Yura. 28 years old. Beautiful face. I'm realizing here small packages can have nice natural breasts. Finally, my long awaited BBJ. We do the normal positions and my time runs out. Session is 9/10. I am happy. I have to give Prive Morambi a glowing review. I think they should charge 180 for a hour. I wanted to return for third helpings but someone made me adventurous and put in my head a cheaper spot called Vani's way.

[QUOTE=RioHeart;2362033]Haven't heard much talk about the trash clubs in Sao Paulo but I had to unload big time, so after the freak show, I headed to American Bar at 345 Sao Joao.[/QUOTE]Rua or Avenida Sao Joao 345?

So I checked out Casarao around 1:30 a on a weekend. I know this place could get pricey on a Brazil scale. At the door they broke down how the R40 consumable work. Roughly you get 3 beers versus the R20 dry. The dry is the safer bet to stay on budget if your not a heavy drinker. I know in Rio you should guard your key at Termaes. Some really hot chicks knew I was a newbie and they tried to shake me down. In Rio I let the girls and their amigas pour up as long as the drink isn't overly expensive. So by my math I drank a can of beer. My card should be down to R28. Then a hottie kept talking to me but the convo had growing pains due to the language barrier and I don't rely on Google. After awhile I offered her a beer, juice, or water a few times. After awhile we walk over to the counter and she presents her pink card (is this for garotas?) after I present my black card (hommes / punters?) After awhile I asked the bartender how much is on the card and he says 85. After running the possibilities through my head it dawns on me that the card is charging and they will collect when I exit. It's not a system where they theoretically deduct the R28 balance and collect the difference at the bar. I'm assuming the lady receives a kickback or commission since she presented her card too. It's not likely she switched cards with me. I'm assuming she ordered a roughly $20 USD drink. Coco water / Ciroc. Lesson learned do not offer gartoas drinks here because they are not going to let you skate off easy with a $10 drink. Casarao fits within my gringo budget as long as I don't let the garotas pull fast ones in Portuguese. I have no idea what their performance will be like. The hotties quoted me 250. Cool roughly $70 for a chick hotter than Tangara. Tangara charges roughly the same except you get an extra 20 minutes. And the room is included. There is an additional 50 for the room. If these chicks performances are good and I only had 1 night in town I would only go here. The chicks are as advertised. College aged hotties (8's). I didn't like the crowd. And they weren't playing enough Top 40 for me to get in the groove. But I didn't come here for the DJ. I like to take things slow and not dive head first into things except offering the big boobed garota a drink. The girl I wanted approached me. Twerked on me and kissed me. Once I understood the pricing structure I was tempted but cooler heads prevailed because I had already tossed up 2 garotas at a Prive 9 hrs. Earlier. I am no longer in my 20's and I didn't want to risk a surprise lack of performance with a commercial provider. I would only take that chance with a freebie or a girlfriend. If I run into the chick again or a hotter chick I may partake.

[QUOTE=RioHeart;2362033]After one month in Buenos Aires I am back in Sao Paulo. Love the city of Buenos Aires but the mongering scene there is just not really that great. Only pulled the trigger 4 times and all of them were girls screened on Whatsapp. 4 ok sessions but nothing compared to Brazil. The bar and cafe scene are really dead and getting non pro's with minimal Spanish wasn't even in the cards. Although there were many traffic stopping Chica's walking around the streets. Shit I gained 12 pounds in one month. I couldn't help my self trying all of the great Paradillas, Northern Argentina Cazuelas, and Locros! Buenos Aires has arguably some of the best Pizza I have ever tasted. Only negative thing it was fucking freezing most of the days. I lived in the Colorado mountains for over 15 years and was never colder than the one month I spent in Buenos Aires..[/QUOTE]RH congratulations for your report.

Excellent report about your adventures, you dig gold when you have done a dupla for 180 reais. PM ME so we can exchange some different experiences for a really reasonable price. I would suggest you meet at Tangara, one of the best clinicas.

ABG.

[QUOTE=RioHeart;2362033]After one month in Buenos Aires I am back in Sao Paulo. Love the city of Buenos Aires but the mongering scene there is just not really that great. Only pulled the trigger 4 times and all of them were girls screened on Whatsapp. 4 ok sessions but nothing compared to Brazil. The bar and cafe scene are really dead and getting non pro's with minimal Spanish wasn't even in the cards. Although there were many traffic stopping Chica's walking around the streets. Shit I gained 12 pounds in one month. I couldn't help my self trying all of the great Paradillas, Northern Argentina Cazuelas, and Locros! Buenos Aires has arguably some of the best Pizza I have ever tasted. Only negative thing it was fucking freezing most of the days. I lived in the Colorado mountains for over 15 years and was never colder than the one month I spent in Buenos Aires..[/QUOTE]RH, You are right, I also don't post the names of the GDPs who are at the good clinicas like Redway who opened again totally restored, as well as Red massagens, Kamna massagens, Tangara, Yankin, Wanis way. And Espaco Vergueiro.

Yesterday I did a great dupla in Tangara for 240 (around 60 USD for two girls) reais for 45 minutes, a real bargain compared to the cost of the boites.

BTW girls were Gabi BH and Larissa. For more details PM me.

ABG.