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[QUOTE=Goferring;2362104]A shameless repost to find which apps can be used to investigate other cities.
Do any users have this info?
Cheers. G.[/QUOTE]A monger posted here that Tinder Gold allowed him to search other cities, but not sure if he could pretend to be in their city.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2362104]A shameless repost to find which apps can be used to investigate other cities.
Do any users have this info?
Cheers. G.[/QUOTE]I used to be able to use Wechat on Android and have another app to spoof the GPS coordinates. I think Wechat changed their location calls and this method no longer works.
PinaLove lets you set your location wherever you want.
Up until now, I have only continued to interact with a girl on a dating site when she promised, in one form or another, to come up to my hotel room. My experience in Thailand, Philippines and the Dominican Republic is that if a girl says yes to a room visit, I will bed her 95% of the time.
However, by asking the girl to come visit me in my room, I risk offending perfectly good non- and semi-pros. The response is typically "I am not a Freelancer, not interested". Indeed, this happened to me just recently by a woman who I was almost certain is a non-pro ([URL]https://www.thaifriendly.com/Pang0611[/URL]). We had such a nice conversation until I mentioned my room. It was very sexual and fun and then all of a sudden, after inviting her to my room, she replied, "I am not a bar girl" and was gone forever.
The reason I do this is because I do not like to spend time on girls who are not interested in sex. Ten years ago, I was much more patient with the women, and always looked at the first date as the screening interview (that is to say, I made no sexual overtures whatsoever until after we had met at a restaurant, cafe or a bar. I would wait until after getting to know the girl to suggest that we go to my room). But I am no longer willing to waste time on dates that don't result in some action, and use "would you come visit me in my room for a glass of wine or soda?" as a screening question. I would say that when no sex is mentioned, my success rate at arranging a date is about 50-60% and if I ask about meeting me in the bedroom, it drops to 15%.
Does anyone have a better strategy for screening the non-pro or semi-pro who is interested in sex? Do you think I am overly impatient? I am clearly losing some really nice looking ladies.
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Does anyone have a better strategy for screening the non-pro or semi-pro who is interested in sex? Do you think I am overly impatient? I am clearly losing some really nice looking ladies.[/QUOTE]Long time I did what you are doing. Meeting outside my room for lunch or dinner. Success rate was at best 20 percent. My target age is 18-24. There were two reasons why I met them outside. One to find out if the girl is to my liking to have sex and the other is to gauge what she expects in return for sex.
Then I changed my attitude to being nice and considerate to ' Dirty Old Man ' looking for sex. Now I openly ask if they are interested in staying with me which includes sex and how much money. Initially they act shocked but some come around saying they need money. Those who play games I ignore. It is a fact they all need sex and money.
For me there is no point in playing dating game wondering if sex is on the menu irrespective of how good girls look. I am not looking to parade girls for eye candy. Some borderline ugly girls gave me the best sex like the factory worker in Taguig. She was insatiable. I met her through a pretty girl who was visiting her province when I was in town. If I would have met her outside I would not have even considered sex.
Lately all the girls want 5000 pesos for sex. I laugh and offer them half that. Some take and others say no. Obviously there are mongers who are paying that kind of money.
So in your case I suggest getting straight to the point in asking for sex and compensation. Believe me if agreed big elephant is off your chest and you both will have a good time.
[QUOTE=Forest;2362433]The reason I do this is because I do not like to spend time on girls who are not interested in sex.
Does anyone have a better strategy for screening the non-pro or semi-pro who is interested in sex? Do you think I am overly impatient? I am clearly losing some really nice looking ladies.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sammon;2362449] Now I openly ask if they are interested in staying with me which includes sex and how much money. Initially they act shocked but some come around saying they need money. Those who play games I ignore. It is a fact they all need sex and money.[/QUOTE]Some guys are looking for the 'good girls' to wine and dine and enjoy that experience. If you're not then Sammon is right: just say so from the out set.
I would add that how you say it can affect who accepts. Asking if she's ok with BB anal will weed out everyone but the hard core pros very quickly and remove any doubt over what is expected. Of course if you want the broke part timer but don't want to scare her off then asking if she's ok with something less serious while she searches for the ubiquitous 'long term relatonship' says the same thing.
I usually start with the later but as numbers and opportunities pile up then my introductory question becomes more and more blunt.
Presenting the opportunity for her to pick up some cash now when you are in town is also far more enticing than suggesting you meet when you arrive 'next month'.
Of course sex is assumed as a given on the hook up apps like Tinder etc.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=Forest;2362433]The response is typically "I am not a Freelancer, not interested". Indeed, this happened to me just recently by a woman who I was almost certain is a non-pro ([URL]https://www.thaifriendly.com/Pang0611[/URL]). We had such a nice conversation until I mentioned my room. It was very sexual and fun and then all of a sudden, after inviting her to my room, she replied, "I am not a bar girl" and was gone forever.[/QUOTE]A chick saying she is not a bar girl, is not saying that she is not a hooker. I don't know if you speak Thai, but the name Pang says it all. It means expensive. Take it how you want.
I know it is a broken record, but some guys have no game. Hookers are hookers and you can ask them to your room. A normal chick wants to be "led" to your room. How do you lead a chick to your room? Depends on the chick. All are different and each case is treated separately. Can't seem so thirsty and eager to get a chick to your room when dealing with a non-pro. One thing has to lead to another.
If you don't want to spend time on chicks that are not interested in sex, then pay a hooker. It is like why pop into a steak restaurant hoping they have seafood when you can just as easily drive your ass to Seafood Sal's?
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Does anyone have a better strategy for screening the non-pro or semi-pro who is interested in sex? Do you think I am overly impatient? I am clearly losing some really nice looking ladies.[/QUOTE]You might just want to focus on the ones who are clearly 'working ladies' on the dating sites. Some mongers like the thrill of the chase and want to do the romancing bit, before trying to take the chica upstairs to the room and ripping her panties off. It's just a fantasy they can't play out at home, so they might as well try it in the Phils. Personally, I don't yearn for Filipina company at the bottom end (although it is often interesting to learn of their situation) and secondly, I don't have the time to waste on useless dinners which might not yield anything.
To weed out the girls who are actually looking for their life partner and a one way ticket out of shitsville, as opposed to the hookers who want to come to your room right now, there are a couple of things you can do. Don't include a profile pic. Hookers will still respond to a blank profile, but genuine ladies won't. I have not included a picture on PL (it would be professional suicide if anyone found out my hobby), but have still managed to accumulate the WhatsApp numbers of 40 hookers in various cities over the past two weeks. Next, carefully look at their pictures and profile. A hooker will have the age range set to "any to any". There also might only be one or two photos, usually taken in a hotel room or while wearing sexy clothes. Look at the photo below. This chick comes from Davao, which is a more conservative area than AC. However, her photo has a large amount of side boob showing and has been taken in a monger's hotel room. She is not marriage material. I sent her one text through the PL free service and then got her WhatsApp number straight away with an invitation to call her when I land in Davao. There might be whole heap of non-hooker grade chicks with lovely photos and profiles, with normal jobs who might be still be interested in coming to your room right away. I'm just trying to increase the hit rate here.
Now I'm expecting a flake out rate of 66%, so of those 40 hookers I have connected with, only about 13 will actually turn up. Chicks will go missing for a number of reasons including menstruation duty, no load, gone back to the province, got a better offer from a Korean with a two inch dick, hungover from last night, still sleeping etc.
Mongers need to ask themselves exactly how many hookers or semi-pros do they really need to line up before the arrive at NAIA and not to worry about the fear of missing out (FOMO). Also, older mongers need to ask themselves how many times they can pop in a two week sexcation. If you are a whippersnapper like Skogis, you can probably get through 56 chicas in two weeks. If you are an older monger, 14 might be a more realistic number.
While we all acknowledge that the game is now going on line, I will still get most of my chicas from other sources. I like going to bars and looking at the line up and chatting to the girls. I like the whole BF routine. It feels like a vacation to go out each night. There are so many ways to get laid, including massage parlours, bikini bars, street walkers, upscale escort services and night clubs. So what's the point of having my list of 40 hookers? Just back up, particularly in places like Davao where the bar action (Hot Legs) is not much good.
[QUOTE=Forest;2362433]Does anyone have a better strategy for screening the non-pro or semi-pro who is interested in sex? Do you think I am overly impatient? I am clearly losing some really nice looking ladies.[/QUOTE]You seem to be making good progress with your own screening rate. As your numbers increase and your arrival approaches you can be more blunt.
As a salesperson by training I find I take the approach of having a pipeline. Lots of potentials at the top of the funnel which then get worked over until I get my shortlist.
I also include a group of the hard to get local girl next door non-pro open minded girl. I have my fallback option but always find some time to meet this group. It might be a mid-morning coffee, an early dinner etc, meeting them outside of my prime punting time. For these girls I will usually have promised some pasulobong which I have intentionally left in my hotel room. Often works to get them into the room. Let them relax and enjoy their company.
PP.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2362670]You might just want to focus on the ones who are clearly 'working ladies' on the dating sites. .[/QUOTE]If their username is their viber number it's a dead give away. Also watch for girls that clearly give answers a monger wants.
User 0956782345.
Q: Do you have viber or WhatsApp? A: +63956782345.
Q: Where are you? A: Behind Glorietta.
Q: Want to come over? A: Sure.
Vs.
User Sweety4 you.
Q: Do you have a viber or WhatsApp number? A: Yes.
Q: What is it? A: 0912345677.
Q: (Too shy / clueless to put her location in her profile) Where are you? A: At home.
Q: Do you want to meet? A: Can I bring a friend?
Enjoy. G.
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Vs.
User Sweety4 you.
Q: Do you have a viber or WhatsApp number? A: Yes.
Q: What is it? A: 0912345677.
Q: (Too shy / clueless to put her location in her profile) Where are you? A: At home.
Q: Do you want to meet? A: Can I bring a friend?
Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]My next question will be your friend is willing to have sex with me? You will be surprised some say yes.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2362958]My next question will be your friend is willing to have sex with me? You will be surprised some say yes.[/QUOTE]Followed by, my friend is ladyboy. She like sex with foreign man.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2362958]My next question will be your friend is willing to have sex with me? You will be surprised some say yes.[/QUOTE]Plenty of the busy girls send standin girl friends if they are too busy or aren't happy to provide some special requests. . Sometimes with warning, sometimes without.
Again, if a young girl is being sent to a stranger's hotel room by her girlfriend, it ain't to empty the ashtray.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2361347].....
There are very few virgins left who are over 18 in Philippines. Plenty of pretenders and fakes. Other day I was chatting with a girl who admitted having two children although in the profile it does not say. Just because she is not married she considers herself a devout catholic. She says no sex before marriage. When asked how come she got two children with being married she had no answer.
.....[/QUOTE]Cathloic logic, immaculate conception perhaps?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2362982]Followed by, my friend is ladyboy. She like sex with foreign man.[/QUOTE]'My friend want to drive you. She like to top the poriner,' she says. Of course, the part about the friend being a ladyboy is only revealed after she is in the room and the shy friend joins the action from behind.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2362498]Some guys are looking for the 'good girls' to wine and dine and enjoy that experience. If you're not then Sammon is right: just say so from the out set.
.......[/QUOTE]I always start out on the good girl assumption initially. Quickly I will decide if she is a semi pro or pro or if she is someone I just want to fuck with no social interaction with her.
These I simply ask if they will come up to my room, no hint of meeting for supper first, if she asks about a GF I say sure as long as you are both open minded. If this needs explaination I tell them we will have a 3 some. I will tell them I will pay all expenses so they know that they will get some cash, if they ask explicity I will name a sum that varies depending on how hot they are and how horney I am.
Regular good girls I will chase more traditionally, sometimes three or more meetings, supper, movie, swims etc. Before I bring up the idea of sex, but then these have nice tight pussies and are fucking for love not money.
Sometimes I guess wrong, but my batting aerage is always improving.