Rio de Janeiro Reports

[QUOTE=SandiWings;1377495]Next, I do a ton of negotiating for some pretty high level companies. For those that don't really do a lot of that type of thing, one of the keys to negotiating is to understand the arguments the other side is going to have, long before they voice them. By using that info and saying to them exactly what they are going to say to you either puts them in a whirlwind or more often, puts them at ease in believing you truly "get" them.[/QUOTE]Yeah. All of this is going to help you ZERO in Brazil. First you need to understand the culture. One of the most important things I learned in grad school is that every country on this planet is different. In my country people prefer to get down to business immediately because they see time as money. In many Latin American countries you have to go out to party and to dinner with those people before doing business is even thought of or it's no contract for you.

SandiWings, in Brazil if a business is doing bad they raise the prices in order to make up for it from the one customer they may get instead of lowering prices in hopes of getting more customers. You better do some due diligence before you go stepping off into the deep end. And most of the guys on this forum know their shit when it comes to mongering down there. Relax and take notes.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1377606]In many Latin American countries you have to go out to party and to dinner with those people before doing business is even thought of or it's no contract for you.[/QUOTE]I know this part intimately from doing decades of work in Spain and Italy. Personal first, business second. Wait. Food first, then personal, then business. And yes, I will report back. Hopefully I get some recommends or advice against in the escort thread.

I hope somebody on this forum could help me. I was in Rio in in November and hooked up with a favourite of mine at 4x4 called Fany. We planned that on my next visit to SP she would come over. However I have lost her contact info. Does anyone have her phone number? If so would you care to share it with me on PM?

Thanks,

GK

Anyone know the current price for 40 minutes in 4x4?

BR 240 for 40 minutes, and BR 260 for one hour. Which one do you think is a better deal?

[QUOTE=PrimeiraVez;1377736]Anyone know the current price for 40 minutes in 4x4?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Genghis Khan; 1377733]I hope somebody on this forum could help me. I was in Rio in in November and hooked up with a favourite of mine at 4x4 called Fany. We planned that on my next visit to SP she would come over. However I have lost her contact info. Does anyone have her phone number? If so would you care to share it with me on PM?

Thanks,

GK[/QUOTE]GK tried to help you out but your mailbox was full.

Exec

[QUOTE=Voyajer1;1378014]BR 240 for 40 minutes, and BR 260 for one hour. Which one do you think is a better deal?[/QUOTE]Well, like the old song, I'm a "sixty minute man" so the hour's the only option for me. Just kidding!

Voyajer, thanks for the info.

Well, I finally made it to Rio for mongering after 30+ years at this hobby around the world. I had mixed feelings.

Since it was my first visit, I did not venture out too much. I limited my activities to Thermas and The Balcony (I stayed in Copacabana). By the way, the Marriott was completely girl friendly. They just asked for the girls' I'd cards when I brought them back.

I won't go into the fine details but here is my report:

Thermas: I went to Centauras and 4 + 4. Centauras cost me over 600 and 4+4 only 260 since I went before 7pm and saved the entrance fee. Of course, the overall talent and facilities at Centauras were much better but I did not think it was 2X better. The girls at Centauras seemed more hardcore and tried repeatedly to upsell me on a double. The girl I did even invited the friend into the room to try and persuade me. The girls at 4+4 seemed to be more "girl next door" types and much more eager to please me. Frankly, I had a better session at 4+4.

The Balcony: I liked this place. It was cool to just hang, drink a few beers and watch the action. There were plenty of girls, albeit many were downright undoable. One of them must have been 50+ years old. That said, I always managed to find a 7-8 in the bunch to take back to my hotel. Prices for ST were 150-200. Besides the everyday WGs, I met one girl that just came with her mates one night to have a drink and some food. She told me that every girl in Brazil will go with you for money. She did not have her I'd with her so she came to my hotel the next afternoon. I guess you could call her a semi-pro?

Barbarellas: I had a few drinks here. Most of the girls were really hot but they were quoting 350-500 ST. I did see a couple of the same girls from Barbarellas at The Balcony, obviously at much lower prices, but I did not enquire since they were not really my type.

In conclusion, my overall experience with Rio was good. Will I return? I am not sure. It seemed very expensive compared with other alternatives in Latin America.

Just my POV.

OAH

On the ground in Rio now (copa). Heading to MC soon. Question can anybody give some good suggestions for Sunday in Copa? On my phone now so I can't do many searches. If you have a good suggestion for a Sunday please post it. Thanks

[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand; 1378282]Well, I finally made it to Rio for mongering after 30+ years at this hobby around the world. I had mixed feelings.

Thermas: I went to Centauras and 4 + 4. Centauras cost me over 600 and 4+4 only 260 since I went before 7pm and saved the entrance fee. Of course, the overall talent and facilities at Centauras were much better but I did not think it was 2X better. The girls at Centauras seemed more hardcore and tried repeatedly to upsell me on a double. The girl I did even invited the friend into the room to try and persuade me. The girls at 4+4 seemed to be more "girl next door" types and much more eager to please me. Frankly, I had a better session at 4+4.

OAH[/QUOTE]That has been the the standard Mo in Centaraus for years now. No other terma will the girls constantly hound you to do 2 girls as much as Centaraus does. For all the talk on various boards about all the "rich brasilian business men" who patron Centaruas, I have a feeling, that they really don't have too many clients. As opposed to all the other termas in Copa and centro. Girls in Centaraus can go days without a client, so when a girl does score one, she does everything possible to convince him to take her friend so she can make some money too.

Well guys, I just got back home on wednsday and had to be back at work right away so I didn't get a chance to write a report on my experience down there right away.

Today was my first day off so here it goes,

I was down there from January 9 till the 22. I visited MC, Centaurus, Solarium, and went to a prive. I had a pretty good time despite the weather being gay and it rained.

Pretty much everyday I was down there. I had about 4 good sunny days that I was able to enjoy the beach.

Centaurus- I went there 2 times. First night I went there, I was really shocked at the variety of girls there. It wasnt even close to what it was in the past. I went on a

Saturday around 8pm. Paid 540 for entrance and 40min session. Ended up with this petite blond who had been eyeing me the whole night. Performance was ok. I left

That night thinking, man what happened here? I still couldn't believe how bad it was so I kept thinking maybe it was just the day I went and it would be different next

Time. I let a couple of days go by and decided to go again. This time I went on a Thursday and let me tell you, as far as quality goes, centaurus is still the best! 9's and 10's all over the place! Yes I know, they are expensive but if you want the best quality in looks, I think centaurus is still on top.

MC- went here 2 times. In my opinion, mc is the best atmosphere to chill and drink and look at the girls. None of them are pushy and aggressive like centaurus. Paid.

390 for entrance and 40min. The girls here are between 6's and 8's in my opinion. Just becareful when you go to pay because if you use your creditcard or debit, they charge.

You 30 more. Overall mc is still one of my favs. Can't go to Rio without stopping by here.

Solarium- this was my first time here. Price is very similar to centaurus. Paid about 580 for entrance and 40min. I thought the place was very small and cramped. Girls.

Were ok. Quality wise, they were about the same as mc. I just went because I have never been here before and wanted to see how it was. I wouldn't recommend it.

Centro Susy- This was my first time going to one of these prives. Place is very small and cramped. You can basically hear everyone talking and fucking since the rooms

Are like right next to each other. Quality was about 5's and 7's. Nothing to brag about. If you're looking just for sex and don't care if they are smokin hot, this place is for you. Paid 110 for 1hour.

Overall I enjoyed my trip. Only thing I didn't get to do was stop by at balcony and check it out. Maybe next time ill have a chance to. I was born in brasil and has lived in the states all my life. I love RIO and will always make a effort to visit as many times a year as I can. I'm from chicago and the girls are like on another level here in Rio. I

Get so depressed when I come back home because I know I won't see such beauty for awhile. I'm already planning a April trip! LOL safe travels to everyone!

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Be careful walking over the manhole covers.

[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/27/world/americas/rio-de-janeiro-grapples-with-exploding-manholes.html?hpw&_r=0[/url]

I am hearing from a GDP friend that an American was shot and killed inside. The source is "reliable" anybody on the ground can confirm this? They will shut it down for sure.

[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand; 1378282]Well, I finally made it to Rio for mongering after 30+ years at this hobby around the world. I had mixed feelings.

Since it was my first visit, I did not venture out too much. I limited my activities to Thermas and The Balcony (I stayed in Copacabana). By the way, the Marriott was completely girl friendly. They just asked for the girls' I'd cards when I brought them back.

I won't go into the fine details but here is my report:

Thermas: I went to Centauras and 4 + 4. Centauras cost me over 600 and 4+4 only 260 since I went before 7pm and saved the entrance fee. Of course, the overall talent and facilities at Centauras were much better but I did not think it was 2X better. The girls at Centauras seemed more hardcore and tried repeatedly to upsell me on a double. The girl I did even invited the friend into the room to try and persuade me. The girls at 4+4 seemed to be more "girl next door" types and much more eager to please me. Frankly, I had a better session at 4+4.

The Balcony: I liked this place. It was cool to just hang, drink a few beers and watch the action. There were plenty of girls, albeit many were downright undoable. One of them must have been 50+ years old. That said, I always managed to find a 7-8 in the bunch to take back to my hotel. Prices for ST were 150-200. Besides the everyday WGs, I met one girl that just came with her mates one night to have a drink and some food. She told me that every girl in Brazil will go with you for money. She did not have her I'd with her so she came to my hotel the next afternoon. I guess you could call her a semi-pro?

Barbarellas: I had a few drinks here. Most of the girls were really hot but they were quoting 350-500 ST. I did see a couple of the same girls from Barbarellas at The Balcony, obviously at much lower prices, but I did not enquire since they were not really my type.

In conclusion, my overall experience with Rio was good. Will I return? I am not sure. It seemed very expensive compared with other alternatives in Latin America.

Just my POV.

OAH[/QUOTE]Great report. Did you feel that Rio was superior in quality compared to other parts of the mongering world to justify the increased costs?

[QUOTE=World Travel 69; 1379032]Be careful walking over the manhole covers.

[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/27/world/americas/rio-de-janeiro-grapples-with-exploding-manholes.html?hpw&_r=0[/url][/QUOTE]Journalism is in such a state of decline. That report was all over the board. Most of it was just recycled from previous foreign media reports.

It would be nice to see a solid detailed report on how Rio is preparing (and is not prepared) for the Olympics. I think someone needs to shine a serious light on how bady tourism is managed at major attractions like the Christ Statue. That would be a story worth reading.