[QUOTE=Syzygies;1931942]Its more like double the distance actually. Maybe it will take 3 times as long to get to by public transport, however S Bahn is sometimes not the best option to get to Darmstadt Nord (for easy walk to Sharks).[/QUOTE]We probably both know we can take regional trains to giessen too. But I still consider it outside of frankfurt. It is funny how alot here on the forum thinks otherwise while my german friends whom I lived with a few years ago were extremely strict when defining city borders. Essen was Essen, and not Dortmund or Dusseldorf etc. There were fields of wheat in between.