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[QUOTE=WestCoast1;1950218]. Where she comes up with the p140/ week for transport fare is also unknown to me. Amazing. She's an absolute sex fiend, wanting sex 4-5-6 times everyday (I dare say that if I had one of you good horny gents with me and her in a hotel room, she'd wear us both down to a nub in 24 hours, and she'd be wanting more), and her skinny pretty ass has been posted a number of times in the PG. There she is, one of the prettier and horniest women on earth, working for nada.[/QUOTE]Next we meet Westie LOL.

As for the pay this is no uncommon. I always tell the girls use BPI Express as was PHP200 to open at one time. I know foreign firms who pay into a bank account all the salaries of their staff who have to go and get their salary in cash (not allowed a bank card by the bank) and their employer will not pay into anyone accounts.

But am not amazed at your story as they really believe the politician. Unlike many in the rest of the world.

And am sure he can give her the cash to open the account but won't.

I posted this on the Cebu board as refers there but the comment from the airlines is a truism and those who fly a lot would agree.

Posted on Cebu forum.

This I think is good news? More Koreans is bad news IMHO but direct flights to Asia from Cebu is great news as I do hate going via Manila at times.

[URL]http://cebudailynews.inquirer.net/109039/ten-more-international-flights-from-cebu-before-year-ends[/URL]

The comment about "please upgrade the airports" is something discussed a lot on this board.

Hello,

I'm planning my first visit to the Philippines and had a question about dating sites like Pinalove.

Do you find it more effective to use direct opening with what you expect from the girl, or more generic pleasantries that you would use in "normal" internet dating? (and if so, at which point the details go into discussion, if at all?

[QUOTE=Sectoran;1953753]Hello,

I'm planning my first visit to the Philippines and had a question about dating sites like Pinalove.

Do you find it more effective to use direct opening with what you expect from the girl, or more generic pleasantries that you would use in "normal" internet dating? (and if so, at which point the details go into discussion, if at all?[/QUOTE]Of you take 5 minutes and try get the feel of this forum you will see a section called "Chat Rooms and Pen Pals". Lots of info regarding use of datingsites over there in general and for Pinalove more specific. You just need to do a little legwork yourself.

[QUOTE=Sectoran;1953753]Hello,

I'm planning my first visit to the Philippines and had a question about dating sites like Pinalove.

Do you find it more effective to use direct opening with what you expect from the girl, or more generic pleasantries that you would use in "normal" internet dating? (and if so, at which point the details go into discussion, if at all?[/QUOTE]As you are a first time poster you can be forgiven for posting this question here, whereas the information you seek can be found by putting in some time reading posts in the chat rooms and pen pals thread. Also, if you spring for the $20 membership fee, some of our more helpful brethren might even give you some private pointers through the PM function.

[QUOTE=Sectoran;1953753]Do you find it more effective to use direct opening with what you expect from the girl, or more generic pleasantries that you would use in "normal" internet dating? (and if so, at which point the details go into discussion, if at all?[/QUOTE]Contact me in PM for some thoughts.

[QUOTE=Sectoran;1953753]Hello,

I'm planning my first visit to the Philippines and had a question about dating sites like Pinalove.

Do you find it more effective to use direct opening with what you expect from the girl, or more generic pleasantries that you would use in "normal" internet dating? (and if so, at which point the details go into discussion, if at all?[/QUOTE]Soapy Smith has given you excellent advice. Read the thread "Chat rooms and Pen Pals" for advice.

Just a tip before you head off there. If you are too explicit about what you want in your profile, someone will report you and you will be blocked. Pinalove is virtually useless unless you pay for a membership, and that fee might be better spent on a membership of ISG here so that you can PM members and they can PM you.

Was not sure where you post this, but here seems as good a place as any.

So I've been chatting with a girl for about 2 months, she's 18 (or so she says), but not by much. She doesn't have a passport or any ID's beyond a Police Clearance letter (no photo) and a Voter Registration letter (with photo). Of course both could be fake. Anyone had any experience with this?

Usually I'd just forget it and err on the side of caution, but I don't want to throw away the chance to bang a fine young (legal) thing without due reason.

[QUOTE=Sectoran;1953753]Hello,

I'm planning my first visit to the Philippines and had a question about dating sites like Pinalove.

Do you find it more effective to use direct opening with what you expect from the girl, or more generic pleasantries that you would use in "normal" internet dating? (and if so, at which point the details go into discussion, if at all?[/QUOTE]There is a forum just on pinalove, you might want to read through that and get some useful information. If you have the time and patience, pinalove can be a good option.

[QUOTE=CallSignPapa;1954588]Was not sure where you post this, but here seems as good a place as any.

So I've been chatting with a girl for about 2 months, she's 18 (or so she says), but not by much. She doesn't have a passport or any ID's beyond a Police Clearance letter (no photo) and a Voter Registration letter (with photo). Of course both could be fake. Anyone had any experience with this?

Usually I'd just forget it and err on the side of caution, but I don't want to throw away the chance to bang a fine young (legal) thing without due reason.[/QUOTE]The temptation is great but be careful as there are scammers around that take advantage of this. Hard to do, but I would walk away. Foreigners are in glasshouses!

She should have school identification with photo even expired. If not I would give her a pass.

Oh I wouldn't go there but since you ask you must be worried about something. Don't trust IDs which are not SSS ID or passports. My rule after an extortion attempt. All other IDs are easily faked and can be bought at a place in Manila, but for the love of God of it, I can't seem to remember the name. Passports and SSS ids can also be faked of course but I think I am being paranoid enough. Experience runs its course I guess.

You probably know already and its been repeated many times but as a foreigner in Phils and especially when dealing with girls we have no rights. Doesn't matter if she provides you 6 different IDs who states she is of legal age. If she's not and authorities gets involved you are to be blamed and locked up. In best case they just want to press you from money (its soon x mas and all that shit). When your case is about to show up in court, in a 2 to 7 years time, then maybe you will get off easier providing the fact she in fact let you to believe she was of legal age. I don't want to go through this for a shag in a country where there are 1000's of willing more safe girls. Just my 1 cent.

[QUOTE=CallSignPapa;1954588]Was not sure where you post this, but here seems as good a place as any.

So I've been chatting with a girl for about 2 months, she's 18 (or so she says), but not by much. She doesn't have a passport or any ID's beyond a Police Clearance letter (no photo) and a Voter Registration letter (with photo). Of course both could be fake. Anyone had any experience with this?

Usually I'd just forget it and err on the side of caution, but I don't want to throw away the chance to bang a fine young (legal) thing without due reason.[/QUOTE]Not having reasonable identifying documents is surprisingly, even shockingly, common here. I would not consider that a de facto red flag. But frankly, if this girl is attempting to catch you in some kind ofunder age scam, [I]no amount of documents [/i] are guaranteed to help you, completely regardless of her actual age. Conversely, the average Pinoy, who is not in fact trying to perpetrate such a scam, cares or is aware that such a thing as under-18 or over-18 even exists. For example, I recently had to exasperatingly and repetitively explain to a GF why her 17-year-old niece could not work for me as a domestic helper, as being alone in my house with the niece would render me liable to criminal prosecution. The GF basically thought I was a fucking wingnut and probably lying. Most Filipinos have exactly zero idea what their actual laws are, (and excusably so, since it doesn't matter) and approximately zero of them are interested in, or have any knowledge of, or could even conceive of, the western craze of paedohysteria that has recently gripped America and other Anglophone countries. We're not playing on he same ball field.

Long story short, you are either 1) dealing with an extremely rare instance of a LT scammer, in which case it really doesn't make any difference what age she actually is, because the corrupt police involved in such a scam won't give a fuck if you have a picture of her ID, valid or not, as that is irrelevant to extracting cash from you; or, 2) dealing someone who has probably never even heard of such a thing as it mattering whether she is over 18, in which case it will also still be irrelevant. Personally, I would consider a voter registration letter with a photo sufficient to ally my fears, depending on context. The only concrete advice I might offer would be that if she is from / around / in Angeles, drop it, if from the provinces, you are almost certainly not in any danger, and if in a Manila or Cebu, grey area. As you have not provided any specifics, your gut is probably your best guide. (Not your dick.).

My feeling is though, that you may be inadvertently equating western rule of law jurisprudence systems with the Philippines, and thus assuming that a provably reasonable mistake of fact would be a factor if there is trouble. Actually that is not even a factor in some USA States, depending on the letter of the law, but I digress. It won't be. In reality the only relevant issue is whether you are being set up to be scammed or not, and that is something that you are probably in the best position to assess. If you are not sure of your footing, then take FastPiston's advice and just walk, there are plenty of opportunities available.

[QUOTE=CallSignPapa;1954588]So I've been chatting with a girl for about 2 months, she's 18 (or so she says), but not by much. She doesn't have a passport or any ID's beyond a Police Clearance letter (no photo) and a Voter Registration letter (with photo). Of course both could be fake. Anyone had any experience with this?
[/QUOTE]Lack of ID: not a red flag (common amongst poor).

Police clearance letter: That's 'unusual'. Do you mean NBI clearance? May indicate she has been on the emigration conveyor belt either OFW preparation or another amorous foreigner? The poor avoid police & don't have pesos to waste. Odd.

In any event, documents are easily rustled up from sidewalk 'notaries' and so are not to be relied on. Asian women often look young for their age to westerners eyes.

I've had 18 yr old virgins insist on impaling themselves on me and lived to tell the tale. Best advice is to look at her words & actions, get a vibe from the interpersonal interaction. Do you feel she is a husband hunter or, just looking to exchange body fluids for pesos? A little of both? Is it too good to be true: ie agrees to anything without emotion?

What do you know of her family after two months?

Ultimately there is no infallible detection of police set ups.

Meet in a public area. If she turns up with a chaperone, eye them both off. Trust your gut.

Although I 100% agree with almost everything Amavida said, and totally endorse his conclusions, I am going to chime in again with one exception; police clearance letters are very common here, as they are a requirement for almost any employment application. I wouldn't take having one as a sign of anything.