Good points. However we all take risks of one sort or the other. If you do take risks at least try to minimize them as much as possible.
It's why I always wear helmets....whether riding a bike or a chica :)
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Good points. However we all take risks of one sort or the other. If you do take risks at least try to minimize them as much as possible.
It's why I always wear helmets....whether riding a bike or a chica :)
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]Okay I'm going to blab after a recent trip.
La Roca's, is shut down. Thats the restaurant on the left as you go down the hill toward the beach. High traffic location, lets see what happens next if anything.
Terra linda is the new hotspot. Major money was invested and it shows. Will it last if they have to raise the prices to meet expectations?
Word is Europa condo owners want Diego to limit the mongerers. Could this be the begining of change coming to that end of Sosua? Will that area survive without mongerers? And Europa?
Passions has expanded. But last week the lineup had changed. Two months ago they had several new hot girls that werent there this trip. Is Are the prima girls getting wifed up with rich Europeans?
Throw in a very active hurricane season apon us, and Sosua could be in for a wild ride.
If Spirit shuts down could Jet blue step in? They fly basically the same type of planes. They are already centered at FLL to take over Spirits slots there. And it would allow them to expand very quickly and cost less.
Sosua appears to be a time bomb, tick-tick-tick. Same girls looking tired. Many beach stores closed, kids sleeping in the street, hotels changing, Domincan corruption, the haiti situatuation, and the economic problems. To a newbie it may be exciting, but after five years every trip is turning into the same bullshit. Even my regulars outside of sosua are looking tired and angry.
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Change is coming I can feel it, but I just don't know exactly what its going to be.[/QUOTE]How long was did Boca Chica have its run? BC I heard it used to be the place, but now its a ghost town the last time I was there.
What made bc go down?
The more time I spend in Sosua, the more I realise I have alot to learn! All week I have been passing by these massage spots in the street, with 4-7 girls sitting in front constantly asking all gringos if they want a massage. After asking the board and a couple of americans who live in the DR what the deal was with them, I decided to take the plunge.
Everyone gave me the scoop on these spots, A full body massage with a HJ/Bj combo. Great! Cant get more "Point and Click" than that! I went to the massage spot directly across the street from my hotel (Sea Breeze) and I got just that, a fucking massage!!! I paid 500 pesos for the hour massage with a french speaking girl named Janet. It was very difficult to communicate because she only spoke a few words of spanish and no english.
Went into the room, stripped down and the massage began. The massage was pretty good, nice hands. But after she did my legs and feet for the 4th time I started to think "Ok honey, when does the BJ start? Enough with my feet and ankles!" Well, the HJ/BJ never fucking happened!! Everytime I pulled the towel down to expose myself, she would readjust the towel to cover me back up!!! Apparently, I went to the only legitimate massage parlor in all of fucking sosua!!!!
I know I have to stop comparing the DR to other destinations, but fuck me, I cant even get a massage parlor correct? WTF?!! I know there is a learning curve to be had in the DR, but somethings should be cake walk.
Sorry for the rant, but I just wasted 500 pesos on a massage that I could have had at home for free.
[QUOTE=Bravo]Sorry for the rant, but I just wasted 500 pesos on a massage that I could have had at home for free.[/QUOTE]Ummm don't you negotiate the taxi price and destination in DR?
I have gotten some of the best RD500 head/massage in these sucio little spots in that area of town.
Better luck next time, ask for punk'in head @ Salon Figaro on Calle Ayuntimiento next trip. Tell her I sent you. She'll suck every last drop a jizz outa you and give you quick neck rub without any hastle. An RD100 Peso tip makes her happy!
[QUOTE=Buscemi]Ummm don't you negotiate the taxi price and destination in DR?
I have gotten some of the best RD500 head/massage in these sucio little spots in that area of town.
Better luck next time, ask for punk'in head @ Salon Figaro on Calle Ayuntimiento next trip. Tell her I sent you. She'll suck every last drop a jizz outa you and give you quick neck rub without any hastle. An RD100 Peso tip makes her happy![/QUOTE]Negociate taxi? Yes, definately. But I didnt think I needed to negociate something that should be automaticaly included in the services at a massage parlor.
The funny part about the whole experience was when I went to put on my clothes. With a smile she asked me "Did you like the massage? You are going to come back?" I just smiled and said "maybe"? As I was walking out I couldnt help but to laugh and think "Wow, she really thinks all I wanted was to have my back rubbed!" LOL!!"
Does punkin head have a name? I am leaving on wed, I would be willing to try another spot. I just have to figure out how to ask "are you going to suck my dick at the end of the massage" in french.
I rented this bike for $80 a day for 4 days in jan 2009, I went back jan 2010 vendor in front of terra lind hotel was asking $240 for a day, he must be nuts.
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[QUOTE=Bravo]I just have to figure out how to ask "are you going to suck my dick at the end of the massage" in french.[/QUOTE]
Chupa Chupa is pretty universal in Sosua!
there are two places across from sosua by sea the hotel, both non-sexual massages, m & m massage is non-sexual, kika's is non-sexual. the beauty salon close by the bon ice cream shop, the chica does bj massage. for a bj type massage place, follow buscemi's advice.
an hour long therapeutic massage here in new york i would never get for $13.88 us (500 pesos).
kika does give a good strong massage, don't expect a bj from her, she also has a place in cabarete.
[quote=bravo]the more time i spend in sosua, the more i realise i have alot to learn! all week i have been passing by these massage spots in the street, with 4-7 girls sitting in front constantly asking all gringos if they want a massage. after asking the board and a couple of americans who live in the dr what the deal was with them, i decided to take the plunge.
everyone gave me the scoop on these spots, a full body massage with a hj/bj combo. great! cant get more "point and click" than that! i went to the massage spot directly across the street from my hotel (sea breeze) and i got just that, a fucking massage!!! i paid 500 pesos for the hour massage with a french speaking girl named janet. it was very difficult to communicate because she only spoke a few words of spanish and no english.
went into the room, stripped down and the massage began. the massage was pretty good, nice hands. but after she did my legs and feet for the 4th time i started to think "ok honey, when does the bj start? enough with my feet and ankles!" well, the hj/bj never fucking happened!! everytime i pulled the towel down to expose myself, she would readjust the towel to cover me back up!!! apparently, i went to the only legitimate massage parlor in all of fucking sosua!!!!
i know i have to stop comparing the dr to other destinations, but fuck me, i cant even get a massage parlor correct? wtf?!! i know there is a learning curve to be had in the dr, but somethings should be cake walk.
sorry for the rant, but i just wasted 500 pesos on a massage that i could have had at home for free.[/quote]
[QUOTE=Chief Justice]How long was did Boca Chica have its run? BC I heard it used to be the place, but now its a ghost town the last time I was there.
What made bc go down?[/QUOTE]I've heard various rumors but maybe some "back in the day"boca chica guys can chime in.
[QUOTE=Bravo]The more time I spend in Sosua, the more I realise I have alot to learn! All week I have been passing by these massage spots in the street, with 4-7 girls sitting in front constantly asking all gringos if they want a massage. After asking the board and a couple of americans who live in the DR what the deal was with them, I decided to take the plunge.
Everyone gave me the scoop on these spots, A full body massage with a HJ/BJ combo. Great! Can't get more "Point and Click" than that! I went to the massage spot directly across the street from my hotel (Sea Breeze) and I got just that, a fucking massage! I paid 500 pesos for the hour massage with a french speaking girl named Janet. It was very difficult to communicate because she only spoke a few words of spanish and no english.
Went into the room, stripped down and the massage began. The massage was pretty good, nice hands. But after she did my legs and feet for the 4th time I started to think "Ok honey, when does the BJ start? Enough with my feet and ankles! " Well, the HJ/BJ never fucking happened! Everytime I pulled the towel down to expose myself, she would readjust the towel to cover me back up! Apparently, I went to the only legitimate massage parlor in all of fucking sosua!
I know I have to stop comparing the DR to other destinations, but fuck me, I can't even get a massage parlor correct? WTF?! I know there is a learning curve to be had in the DR, but somethings should be cake walk.
Sorry for the rant, but I just wasted 500 pesos on a massage that I could have had at home for free.[/QUOTE]Walk out of seabreeze, turn right, go to the corner and hang another right. Go two doors down next to the beauty salon. Or walk another 40 feet and look across the street right before casa ceyena.
There has been lots of writing here about traveling the road from Sosua to Caberette, then back, the dangers and advice etc.
Conversations with moto guys some years ago made me aware of a popular dirt road between the places. The guys tell me the locals usually use that dirt road between the towns instead of the main highway.
I have never been on the said road but thought people should know about it and maybe somebody can report on it sometime. On the Sosua side it begins just east of the Playa Chiquita Casino.
[QUOTE=Chief Justice]How long was did Boca Chica have its run? BC I heard it used to be the place, but now its a ghost town the last time I was there.
What made bc go down?[/QUOTE]
The way I remember reading about it there was a murder or two and subsequent crack down by the cops of all prostitution. After the initial crackdown it never came back to the previous quality level for girls that it was before.
I don't remember if the murder(s) was of a hooker(s) or of a tourist but I think it was a hooker(s) and happenned somewhere back around 2002 to 2004.
Schwmm
As I suspected but held back with it's as much a macho and attention grabbing thing as an enjoyment activity.
[QUOTE=Ehunter]There has been lots of writing here about traveling the road from Sosua to Caberette, then back, the dangers and advice etc.
Conversations with moto guys some years ago made me aware of a popular dirt road between the places. The guys tell me the locals usually use that dirt road between the towns instead of the main highway.
I have never been on the said road but thought people should know about it and maybe somebody can report on it sometime. On the Sosua side it begins just east of the Playa Chiquita Casino.[/QUOTE]Not sure if any road would go through Sea Horse Ranch. That gated community has multi million dollar homes, some on the beach, I don't think they would allow motos to drive near their property. Sea Horse ranch is on the north side (beach side of the road) between Sosua and Cabarete.
[url]http://www.sea-horse-ranch.com/[/url]
[QUOTE=Ehunter]There has been lots of writing here about traveling the road from Sosua to Caberette, then back, the dangers and advice etc.
Conversations with moto guys some years ago made me aware of a popular dirt road between the places. The guys tell me the locals usually use that dirt road between the towns instead of the main highway.
I have never been on the said road but thought people should know about it and maybe somebody can report on it sometime. On the Sosua side it begins just east of the Playa Chiquita Casino.[/QUOTE]I drove the paved road between Sosua and Cabarete twice a day for a week and had no problems either in the datime or night. It is a very good two lane road total distance about 7 miles. At night there was very little traffic but you have to watch out for the motorcycles which never seem to have tail lights.
Most of the problems I had driving in the DR was in the cities/towns not the roads between them.
Hope that helps.
[QUOTE=Chief Justice]How long was did Boca Chica have its run? BC I heard it used to be the place, but now its a ghost town the last time I was there.
What made bc go down?[/QUOTE]I have a friend (older guy,retired lawyer)who now resides in puerto plata,who i sent an e-mail asking about Boca Chica back in the days.He tells stories about Boca in the 90's.
He stated several reasons for the decline;
(1)Three prostitutes were murdered by two Puerto Rican guys and two Dominicans.
(2) Police were arresting women who were walking the streets sola late at night.
(3)Boca chica was getting darker(women).
(4)Political pressure from Santo Domingo about an open air sex market.
(5)Juan Dolio's emergence as a destination.
He also said that at one time Boca was full of Italian and German mongerers and everything was cool.Then the Americans started coming.He didnt know if American mongers were the cause of the down fall.
Could this happen to Sosua?
In my opinion"yes".
Will it happen"no".
If Sosua had three prostitutes murdered,police harrassment of prostitues,and political pressure,kiss Sosua as we know it goodbye.Or on a lesser note if Classicos,latinos,and merengue shut down,Sosua woud be reduced to walk up bars at night,could it survive?
Luckily the Italian and Dominican club owners are all politically connected.Plus Sosua has a nice beach compared to that so called beach in Boca.Sosua can always use its beach as a drawing point.
Chief Justice hope this answers your question.I just hope in ten years that the Sosua board doesnt look like the Boca board does now (empty). And that people arent asking"what happened".
[QUOTE=Schwmmr]As I suspected but held back with it's as much a macho and attention grabbing thing as an enjoyment activity.[/QUOTE]I dont concur,but we can agree to disagree.Riding is not about "showing off" to me.It's about feeling free.On an open road on a beautiful day is something only a real rider appreciates.
Also dont feel you have to 'hold back" your responses to any of my posts.I'm an open minded guy who values other peoples opinions,even when it goes against what i think.I consider Bq ribs a friend,but he doesnt hesitate to say when he has a different opinion than me.I'm about gaining knowledge,and the best way to do this is to register other peoples opinions.
Does anyone know if Terra linda allows two chica in your room?
[QUOTE=Ehunter]There has been lots of writing here about traveling the road from Sosua to Caberette, then back, the dangers and advice etc.
Conversations with moto guys some years ago made me aware of a popular dirt road between the places. The guys tell me the locals usually use that dirt road between the towns instead of the main highway.
I have never been on the said road but thought people should know about it and maybe somebody can report on it sometime. On the Sosua side it begins just east of the Playa Chiquita Casino.[/QUOTE]
There is a dirt road that starts at the end of Clisante, but it will be a very bumpy ride, but very very fun with an ATV or dirt bike.
[QUOTE=Terry U]There is a dirt road that starts at the end of Clisante, but it will be a very bumpy ride, but very very fun with an ATV or dirt bike.[/QUOTE]I have taken Clisante east, it ends about three minutes after you see the sign for playa chiquita casino, there is a gravelly road where it ends, you can go left or right, if you go right the road ends after about a 1/4 mile. There are some nice homes that sit on the water there. If you go towards the left, near there is an abandoned AMHSA Hotel there, the same company that owns the casa marina. I doubt there is a a dirt road on the north side (beach side) of the main road that goes to cabarete. That road would have to go through Sea Horse Ranch as well as through the Viva Wyndham Hotel that is closer to cabarete.
[QUOTE=Seiko1999]Does anyone know if Terra linda allows two chica in your room?[/QUOTE]
Negative, take your happy hour to Coco or Calypso, or make friends with another guest to check in chica number two!
[QUOTE=Seiko1999]Does anyone know if Terra linda allows two chica in your room?[/QUOTE]
Yes you can, but you have to tip the security guard 500 pesos and they have to enter and leave seperately because there are security cameras everywhere.
Also, one very important note. TL does NOT call you to verify that everything is ok when the chica is leaving!! So keep that in mind when you bring a girl back there, if you are in the shower, she could walk out with your valuables and security will not stop her or call you.
I have been reading for years that Russians were buying property in Sosua. I have not been in Sosua for a few years, have you seen a greater number of Russians in your recent visits?
Sea Horse ranch has their webpage available in Russian.
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]I have a friend (older guy,retired lawyer)who now resides in puerto plata,who i sent an e-mail asking about Boca Chica back in the days.He tells stories about Boca in the 90's.
He stated several reasons for the decline;
(1)Three prostitutes were murdered by two Puerto Rican guys and two Dominicans.
(2) Police were arresting women who were walking the streets sola late at night.
(3)Boca chica was getting darker(women).
(4)Political pressure from Santo Domingo about an open air sex market.
(5)Juan Dolio's emergence as a destination.
He also said that at one time Boca was full of Italian and German mongerers and everything was cool.Then the Americans started coming.He didnt know if American mongers were the cause of the down fall.
Could this happen to Sosua?
In my opinion"yes".
Will it happen"no".
If Sosua had three prostitutes murdered,police harrassment of prostitues,and political pressure,kiss Sosua as we know it goodbye.Or on a lesser note if Classicos,latinos,and merengue shut down,Sosua woud be reduced to walk up bars at night,could it survive?
Luckily the Italian and Dominican club owners are all politically connected.Plus Sosua has a nice beach compared to that so called beach in Boca.Sosua can always use its beach as a drawing point.
Chief Justice hope this answers your question.I just hope in ten years that the Sosua board doesnt look like the Boca board does now (empty). And that people arent asking"what happened".[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bravo]Yes you can, but you have to tip the security guard 500 pesos and they have to enter and leave seperately because there are security cameras everywhere.
Also, one very important note. TL does NOT call you to verify that everything is ok when the chica is leaving!! So keep that in mind when you bring a girl back there, if you are in the shower, she could walk out with your valuables and security will not stop her or call you.[/QUOTE]Yea the security is a cool dude. I forgot his name but take care of him and he will take care of you. I try to make sure I am cool with security anywhere I go.
I only have 5 trips to Sosua but have never paid more than 2500 for TLN.
ST rates are 1000-1500, TLN rates are 1500-2000. This said, there is also an investment in time screening the girl over a beer or two, a little conversation, etc.
I do not like alot of negotiations as it ruins it for me so I will just pass on the girl if she is too business-like. There will be another one to replace her in minutes.
The basis for my price is that I pay my favorita 2000 pesos (+200 pesos for the bus) and she comes from Santiago and stays with me for 24 hours+.
[QUOTE=Seiko1999]I rented this bike for $80 a day for 4 days in jan 2009, I went back jan 2010 vendor in front of terra lind hotel was asking $240 for a day, he must be nuts.[/QUOTE]When I read the $80/day I thought YOU were nuts. That is more than you pay for your hotel. That is $2400/month. My mortgage is not that much. You can buy a bike for that. In Thailand you can rent the whole month for $80. Que rip-off La Republica Dominicana!
[QUOTE=Bravo]I went to the massage spot directly across the street from my hotel (Sea Breeze) and I got just that, a fucking massage!!! I paid 500 pesos for the hour massage with a french speaking girl named Janet. It was very difficult to communicate because she only spoke a few words of spanish and no english.
But after she did my legs and feet for the 4th time I started to think "Ok honey, when does the BJ start? Everytime I pulled the towel down to expose myself, she would readjust the towel to cover me back up!!! Apparently, I went to the only legitimate massage parlor in all of fucking sosua!!!!
Sorry for the rant, but I just wasted 500 pesos on a massage that I could have had at home for free.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Buscemi]Ummm don't you negotiate the taxi price and destination in DR?
Better luck next time, ask for punk'in head @ Salon Figaro on Calle Ayuntimiento next trip. Tell her I sent you. She'll suck every last drop a jizz outa you and give you quick neck rub without any hastle. An RD100 Peso tip makes her happy![/QUOTE]Either this is some real funny shit or I'm hi off this vitamin v.
[QUOTE=Jaosousa]I have been reading for years that Russians were buying property in Sosua. I have not been in Sosua for a few years, have you seen a greater number of Russians in your recent visits?
Sea Horse ranch has their webpage available in Russian.[/QUOTE]I've seen big Russian planes at Puerto Plata airport,but I never see Russians,go figure.I've heard they have money invested in Cabarette.
One stay at Europa hotel their was a Russian mother and two daughters that owned a condo on the top floor. I was in the Jacuzzi with my date,and these two little Russian girls started playing with my date in the Jacuzzi. I got out of the Jacuzzi to take in this spectacle,plus I didn't want to get accused of anything crazy.
Not many people of color in Russia,but these girls didnt see color as an obstacle.Later I saw them playing with the Haitian children.Truly amazing shit.
Russian money could play into sosuas future, we will see.
[QUOTE=Jaosousa]I have been reading for years that Russians were buying property in Sosua. I have not been in Sosua for a few years, have you seen a greater number of Russians in your recent visits?
Sea Horse ranch has their webpage available in Russian.[/QUOTE]
I am told about 10% of Sea Horse Ranch is occupied by Russians (which description no doubt includes all East European peoples). Russians mainly keep to themselves in upmarket venues (although often seen in the Casino) but one sees increasing use of cyrillic script in hoardings and notices in the area with some realtors, insurance companies, etc, exclusively aimed at Russian speakers.
[QUOTE=Jaosousa]I have been reading for years that Russians were buying property in Sosua. I have not been in Sosua for a few years, have you seen a greater number of Russians in your recent visits?
Sea Horse ranch has their webpage available in Russian.[/QUOTE]
Go for a bite @ Sosua Ocean Village, the menus are in English/Russian/Spanish at the club. Prolly 75% Russian in there.
[QUOTE=Chief Justice]Yea the security is a cool dude. I forgot his name but take care of him and he will take care of you. I try to make sure I am cool with security anywhere I go.[/QUOTE]My experience was I brought back two but it was too early in the day that the security guard was there, the front desk wasn't happy, wanted to charge me another person per day, but in the end, I did not end up paying, perhaps its easier to do so when its not as early in the day.
[QUOTE=Buscemi]Negative, take your happy hour to Coco or Calypso, or make friends with another guest to check in chica number two![/QUOTE]
Go to Love n Care, the relatively new cabana in Sosua. Very nice but price is 500P for 4 hours.
[QUOTE=Charles Pooter]I am told about 10% of Sea Horse Ranch is occupied by Russians (which description no doubt includes all East European peoples). Russians mainly keep to themselves in upmarket venues (although often seen in the Casino) but one sees increasing use of cyrillic script in hoardings and notices in the area with some realtors, insurance companies, etc, exclusively aimed at Russian speakers.[/QUOTE]Appears they are not out mongering yet in Sosua in any great numbers, or maybe they bring their own sand to the beach.
Thanks for the reply.
[QUOTE=Buscemi]Go for a bite @ Sosua Ocean Village, the menus are in English/Russian/Spanish at the club. Prolly 75% Russian in there.[/QUOTE]I have no idea where Sosua Ocean Village is. Last time I was in Sosua, Infiti Blue had not even begun construction (I believe Russian money was involved with Infiti Blue). I read somewhere that Russians wanted to build in Charamicos and were behind the relocation of a bunch of families from Charamicos to some other location, probably La Union.
Any cute Russian chicas around?
[QUOTE=Chief Justice]Yea the security is a cool dude. I forgot his name but take care of him and he will take care of you. I try to make sure I am cool with security anywhere I go.[/QUOTE]
The night time security guard is ok, but he begs ALOT!! Constantly asked me to buy him phone cards or to give him a couple hundreds pesos or buy him a sandwich whenever I was leaving the hotel. It got very annoying after a while.
I went to the massage spot across the street from the hotel Casa Cayene. 2nd attempt was much better than the first try. Now before anyone slams mes, realise that I was flying blind. I had asked on the board what the price structure at a massage house was like, and got no answer, so I just took a shot.
I went with the only dominican girl in the spot, cant remember her name. 300Pesos for a 30 minutes massage. Very good massage, after she rubbed my back, she flipped me over and asked if I wanted a BJ. She told me the price was 2000 pesos!! That is the amount I pay for all night from Classico, so I balked at that price. She then lowered it down to 1500 and then to 1000 pesos (plus the 300 pesos for the massage). SInce I was supposed to leave for the airport in 20 minutes, I accepted the 1000 pesos, even though I thought it was kinda high.
Good news was that she was VERY good and I had an orgasm in only 10 minutes. I left the parlor with a big smila and made it back to the hotel in time to head off to the airport. Nice way to say goodbye to Sosua!
[QUOTE=Bravo]I went to the massage spot across the street from the hotel Casa Cayene. 2nd attempt was much better than the first try. Now before anyone slams mes, realise that I was flying blind. I had asked on the board what the price structure at a massage house was like, and got no answer, so I just took a shot.
I went with the only dominican girl in the spot, cant remember her name. 300Pesos for a 30 minutes massage. Very good massage, after she rubbed my back, she flipped me over and asked if I wanted a BJ. She told me the price was 2000 pesos!! That is the amount I pay for all night from Classico, so I balked at that price. She then lowered it down to 1500 and then to 1000 pesos (plus the 300 pesos for the massage). SInce I was supposed to leave for the airport in 20 minutes, I accepted the 1000 pesos, even though I thought it was kinda high.
Good news was that she was VERY good and I had an orgasm in only 10 minutes. I left the parlor with a big smila and made it back to the hotel in time to head off to the airport. Nice way to say goodbye to Sosua![/QUOTE]
I replied to you before. I said:
"Prices, like anything else, are subject to negotiation.
One trick is to negotiate a price for massage, then after the flip get your dick hard and then demand a big (excessive) fee to finish you off. Just watch out for that. 1000 pesos would be OK for real massage plus hand/mouth job, but the problem is that in most of these places the massage is rather perfunctory and is just a prelude to sexual activity rather than a real massage."
I would have offered her 700 plus the 300. In these places they aren't really offering proper massage, so the initial massage is rather cheap and the aim is just to get you in there and get your pants off, then upsell you. Of course the girl has to pay part of that money, probably the 300 pesos, to the house and gets the rest for herself, so it isn't all profit for her. Then again, if you go to Calypso, you will have to pay a few hundred pesos for the room.
The way to negotiate is to say that you don't really want the blow job or hand job. If she says, "but your dick is hard", say "Yes, but I am supposed to be meeting my novia in 1/2 an hour so I can't do it now." Tell her that no one can make you come, only your novia.
Make it a challenge for her to convince you that she can get the job done. Have her give you a free sample of her skills.
Let her persuade you by making an offer you can't refuse, then "reluctantly" accept it. Act like you are in command. You have to understand that these girls are mostly rather simple, but very proud of their sexual skills, so work with that to your advantage. let them prove themselves.
[QUOTE=Bravo]The night time security guard is ok, but he begs ALOT!! Constantly asked me to buy him phone cards or to give him a couple hundreds pesos or buy him a sandwich whenever I was leaving the hotel. It got very annoying after a while.[/QUOTE]I bought him a few sosua 'hamburgers' (mystery meat) off the truck.
[QUOTE=Buscemi]Better luck next time, ask for punk'in head @ Salon Figaro on Calle Ayuntimiento next trip. Tell her I sent you. She'll suck every last drop a jizz outa you and give you quick neck rub without any hastle. An RD100 Peso tip makes her happy![/QUOTE]Well tonight I did just that and Buscemi was right on the money.
I drove up the street hoping to find the place, but it was so small and out of the way, I missed it. So rather than drive around again, I parked a bit further up the street and walked back. I almost missed it again except as I walked by, I heard her 'Hola' a couple of times. I turned around and there she was, motioning me to come back.
She wasn't a bad looking woman. I would say in her mid to late 40s and was probably a knockout in her younger years but she still has a nice body IMHO and great tits with long wavy black hair.
The first words out of her mouth was that she would give me a great blow job and better than anyone else because she will take my leiche in her mouth. So I went for it, after all, that was why I was there!
The moment I walked in, she suggested 1000 and I said that was fine with me. Then we got down to business immediately. She was on me right away. My shirt was barely off and she started sucking my nipples. It felt amazing. It didn't take long until I was undressed and had her stroking my rock hard shaft with her mouth and hand. Then she started licking the boys and went lower.
I almost lost it right there, but managed to hold it together. She seemed to be really into it, moaning and licking every area she could get her tongue in to. She stopped just long enough to take off her clothes and before I knew what happened she took out a condom and we started doggie style. Then she climbed on top and in a few minutes she came (or so it seemed). She was pretty quiet about it.
A very few minutes later, she climbed off and resumed her amazing oral attention to my shaft and boys. Then while she stroked me with her hand, she started licking lower again and moaned. That did it. I couldn't hold back anymore and as she promised, as I was about to cum, she engulfed my shaft and I shot my load in her mouth.
Before I headed out, I dropped another 100, hugged her and left wondering what the hell just hit me. It was the most amazing experience and the fastest orgasm I ever had!
The only minor downside was that her fans didn't work so it was rather warm but that was a small consolation to me.
She said they should be working tomorrow. I hope to have some time to find out.
[QUOTE=Buscemi]Better luck next time, ask for punk'in head @ Salon Figaro on Calle Ayuntimiento next trip. Tell her I sent you. She'll suck every last drop a jizz outa you and give you quick neck rub without any hastle. An RD100 Peso tip makes her happy![/QUOTE]Well tonight I did just that and Buscemi was right on the money.
I drove up the street hoping to find the place, but it was so small and out of the way, I missed it. So rather than drive around again, I parked a bit further up the street and walked back. I almost missed it again except as I walked by, I heard her 'Hola' a couple of times. I turned around and there she was, motioning me to come back.
She wasn't a bad looking woman. I would say in her mid to late 40s and was probably a knockout in her younger years but she still has a nice body IMHO and great tits with long wavy black hair.
The first words out of her mouth was that she would give me a great blow job and better than anyone else because she will take my leiche in her mouth. So I went for it, after all, that was why I was there!
The moment I walked in, she suggested 1000 and I said that was fine with me. Then we got down to business immediately. She was on me right away. My shirt was barely off and she started sucking my nipples. It felt amazing. It didn't take long until I was undressed and had her stroking my rock hard shaft with her mouth and hand. Then she started licking the boys and went lower.
I almost lost it right there, but managed to hold it together. She seemed to be really into it, moaning and licking every area she could get her tongue in to. She stopped just long enough to take off her clothes and before I knew what happened she took out a condom and we started doggie style. Then she climbed on top and in a few minutes she came (or so it seemed). She was pretty quiet about it.
A very few minutes later, she climbed off and resumed her amazing oral attention to my shaft and boys. Then while she stroked me with her hand, she started licking lower again and moaned. That did it. I couldn't hold back anymore and as she promised, as I was about to cum, she engulfed my shaft and I shot my load in her mouth.
Before I headed out, I dropped another 100, hugged her and left wondering what the hell just hit me. It was the most amazing experience and the fastest orgasm I ever had!
The only minor downside was that her fans didn't work so it was rather warm but that was a small consolation to me.
She said they should be working tomorrow. I hope to have some time to find out.
[QUOTE=Bravo]I went to the massage spot across the street from the hotel Casa Cayene. 2nd attempt was much better than the first try. Now before anyone slams mes, realise that I was flying blind. I had asked on the board what the price structure at a massage house was like, and got no answer, so I just took a shot.
I went with the only dominican girl in the spot, can't remember her name. 300Pesos for a 30 minutes massage. Very good massage, after she rubbed my back, she flipped me over and asked if I wanted a BJ. She told me the price was 2000 pesos! That is the amount I pay for all night from Classico, so I balked at that price. She then lowered it down to 1500 and then to 1000 pesos (plus the 300 pesos for the massage). SInce I was supposed to leave for the airport in 20 minutes, I accepted the 1000 pesos, even though I thought it was kinda high.
Good news was that she was VERY good and I had an orgasm in only 10 minutes. I left the parlor with a big smila and made it back to the hotel in time to head off to the airport. Nice way to say goodbye to Sosua![/QUOTE]This is some funny shit after all.
I gave you step by step directions on how to get there(leave seabreeze, hang right, go to corner, hang another right). Great you made it there. Okkaaayyy I'm sure it was a girl sitting outside licking her lips as if she's been waiting for you all day. Probaly with some bullshit massage flyer in her hand.
Here's where you should say "600peso's completa". If she says no, throw your shoulders up and walk away, there is another place right across the street. You won't get two steps and she will say okay.
When you go in lay on your back for a half ass massage, but first tell her to take her top off. After U-turn over look at her titties and eyes, you should be getting excited.
Now she is going to try to only do a hand job, and get your money. This is where you offer a 200 propina for BJ.
Here's what you probaly did:
You probaly turned that corner and walked down that street with a newbie look on your face and asked how much for a massage. Sure she is going to say 2000pesos because you let her take contol. Also maybe you told her about the french girl around the corner that didn't give you what you wanted. And that you were leaving soon.
Then she slowly lowered her fee sensing your desperation. She had you there naked with an erection. For 1300 pesos she will remember you on your next visit.
Thanks for your report, much appreciated and funny.
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]I've seen big Russian planes at Puerto Plata airport,but I never see Russians,go figure.I've heard they have money invested in Cabarette.
One stay at Europa hotel their was a Russian mother and two daughters that owned a condo on the top floor. I was in the Jacuzzi with my date,and these two little Russian girls started playing with my date in the Jacuzzi. I got out of the Jacuzzi to take in this spectacle,plus I didn't want to get accused of anything crazy.
Not many people of color in Russia,but these girls didnt see color as an obstacle.Later I saw them playing with the Haitian children.Truly amazing shit.
Russian money could play into sosuas future, we will see.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply and the photos you posted earlier, looks like you had a cutie with you in terra linda, playing with your laptop.
[QUOTE=Frannie]I replied to you before. I said:
"Prices, like anything else, are subject to negotiation.
One trick is to negotiate a price for massage, then after the flip get your dick hard and then demand a big (excessive) fee to finish you off. Just watch out for that. 1000 pesos would be OK for real massage plus hand/mouth job, but the problem is that in most of these places the massage is rather perfunctory and is just a prelude to sexual activity rather than a real massage."
I would have offered her 700 plus the 300. In these places they aren't really offering proper massage, so the initial massage is rather cheap and the aim is just to get you in there and get your pants off, then upsell you. Of course the girl has to pay part of that money, probably the 300 pesos, to the house and gets the rest for herself, so it isn't all profit for her. Then again, if you go to Calypso, you will have to pay a few hundred pesos for the room.
The way to negotiate is to say that you don't really want the blow job or hand job. If she says, "but your dick is hard", say "Yes, but I am supposed to be meeting my novia in 1/2 an hour so I can't do it now." Tell her that no one can make you come, only your novia.
Make it a challenge for her to convince you that she can get the job done. Have her give you a free sample of her skills.
Let her persuade you by making an offer you can't refuse, then "reluctantly" accept it. Act like you are in command. You have to understand that these girls are mostly rather simple, but very proud of their sexual skills, so work with that to your advantage. let them prove themselves.[/QUOTE]
I like your comment about working on their pride of the sexual skills they provide. Pride is a powerful tool when used to get favor from someone.
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]This is some funny shit after all.
I gave you step by step directions on how to get there(leave seabreeze, hang right, go to corner, hang another right). Great you made it there. Okkaaayyy I'm sure it was a girl sitting outside licking her lips as if she's been waiting for you all day. Probaly with some bullshit massage flyer in her hand.
Here's where you should say "600peso's completa". If she says no, throw your shoulders up and walk away, there is another place right across the street. You won't get two steps and she will say okay.
When you go in lay on your back for a half ass massage, but first tell her to take her top off. After U-turn over look at her titties and eyes, you should be getting excited.
Now she is going to try to only do a hand job, and get your money. This is where you offer a 200 propina for BJ.
Here's what you probaly did:
You probaly turned that corner and walked down that street with a newbie look on your face and asked how much for a massage. Sure she is going to say 2000pesos because you let her take contol. Also maybe you told her about the french girl around the corner that didn't give you what you wanted. And that you were leaving soon.
Then she slowly lowered her fee sensing your desperation. She had you there naked with an erection. For 1300 pesos she will remember you on your next visit.
Thanks for your report, much appreciated and funny.[/QUOTE]
I am not complaining, but this little bit of information would have been great BEFORE I went to the massage parlor. LOL!! Your post told me the location of the place but you neglected to say the whole "Here's where you should say "600peso's completa" part. Frannie said 1000 pesos should be good, so I wasnt too far off. Now I know better and next time I will offer less money when I go back.
[QUOTE=Bobsthrobbinknob]The girls have a schedule of rates, so to speak. Are you new? Do you speak Spanish? Has she seen you there before? Will she see you again? Are you a nasty m'fr or really clean? Do you get laid in the States or where you live, or do you have a tough time there? Then, does she need rent, or just food tomorrow? A lot goes in to it for them, but rarely does it REALLY make sense.
Bottom line, I'm there TOO MUCH, speak fairly fluent "street" spanish, know about ALL the games, know most of them's husband/novio's, etc. I get some of them dropping by for 300-500 pesos on the way to the salon for salon money. Sometimes it's just A/C and Novellas in exchange for sex.
In the street during daytime, never more than 1000 pesos. Hold your ground guys, I'm telling you, they will hem and haw, but they WILL TAKE IT as opposed to nothing during the day.
At night that's different, when the boys from NYC and Boston are in Thurs. Sunday, forget it, 2500 minimum TLN, cause those guys don't even pay attention to the exchange rate. Saw one the other night, pay the bartender at Flow, 500 pesos for a beer and throw (2) 100 peso notes at the girl for a tip. I had to translate for her what he was doing, she couldn't believe it.
But. Most girls will go for 1500 TLN IF YOU HOLD YOUR GROUND. They may say no, and then next thing you know they walk the loop a time or two and they're back rubbing their ass cheeks in your crotch.
Bottom line, it's not much money either way. The best way to negotiate with a Dominicana is to say, I ONLY PAY 1500, never more to ANYONE. BUT. I promise, if you are really really good, I will tip you 500 pesos. Tie yourself on boys, they will work for that 500, and you're just paying the going rate, with a twist.[/QUOTE]When you nego with the girl for overnight, do you pay her when she leaves in the morning or pay her once she gets to your room?
[QUOTE=Bravo]I am not complaining, but this little bit of information would have been great BEFORE I went to the massage parlor. LOL!! Your post told me the location of the place but you neglected to say the whole "Here's where you should say "600peso's completa" part. Frannie said 1000 pesos should be good, so I wasnt too far off. Now I know better and next time I will offer less money when I go back.[/QUOTE]
IMHO, the place across the street is better. I forgot her name, but one of the chicas there (the dark black one with straightened hair) provides outstanding service. And she'll definitely go back to your room with you if you like.
[QUOTE=Bravo]I am not complaining, but this little bit of information would have been great BEFORE I went to the massage parlor. LOL! Your post told me the location of the place but you neglected to say the whole "Here's where you should say "600peso's completa" part. Frannie said 1000 pesos should be good, so I wasnt too far off. Now I know better and next time I will offer less money when I go back.[/QUOTE]My bad, you're correct I should have explained pricing better.
[QUOTE=Member #2041]IMHO, the place across the street is better. I forgot her name, but one of the chicas there (the dark black one with straightened hair) provides outstanding service. And she'll definitely go back to your room with you if you like.[/QUOTE]
Not trying to come across unappreciative, but these type of answers do not help. I am a DR newbie, but I have mongered for over 14 years now in brasil. I am used to giving/receiving specific answers to questions, not ones that are impossible to use. "A dark skin girl with straightened hair" is of absolutely no help without a name or picture, to a newbie.
[QUOTE=Jaosousa]Thanks for the reply and the photos you posted earlier, looks like you had a cutie with you in terra linda, playing with your laptop.[/QUOTE]Your welcome. Yeah that was my last good moment with her(forever). All hell was about to break loose. Thats the crazy chick I posted about in previous reports(shoe thrower, airport mugger, etc),
She asked if I was coming next month. I fucked up before I caught myself and tried to re-direct.
I replied next month I'm in Colom., then I caught myself and asked how her family was? I could see her mind processing this as she said nothing.
Here we go!
"You want to fuck other girls", "you never loved me", 'I only come to Sosua for you", "you promised me this laptop". Whoa I said one day I might give it to you. Also I gave you my old Blackberry and that fake iphone, that you gave to relatives.
Then she prayed, cried and started saying "muderficker". I asked her to be quiet for one minute so we can calm down. She never shut the fuck up.
I told her to "get the fuck out I'm thru with your ass"She said no. I threatened to call security. She said go ahead. I said lets go to the pool area to talk, she said no.
At this point I want her out my life completely. Something told me to do a room check being that she had been there two days:
Watch (check)
My touch phone (check)
Money count (check)
Platinum bracelet (check)
Camera (check)
Passport (check)
Credit cards (check)
I-touch ipod (ohoh)
I said nothing, snatched her purse off the bed stand and emptied it on the bed. Bingo. Being I let her play with it for two days she assumed it was her's.
To make a long story short I gave her a 3k pesos to get out and she left. She cheated herself because I was going to give her 5k pesos for the two days. Now she leaves text messages saying she's going to kill herself because I won't answer her phone calls. Damn if I want this type of drama I might as well go back to fucking with American chics. Anyway time gone, she is history and Colombia is coming. Life is good.
[QUOTE=Bravo]Not trying to come across unappreciative, but these type of answers do not help. I am a DR newbie, but I have mongered for over 14 years now in brasil. I am used to giving/receiving specific answers to questions, not ones that are impossible to use. "A dark skin girl with straightened hair" is of absolutely no help without a name or picture, to a newbie.[/QUOTE]
I think you’re asking a bit much.
I wouldn’t be able to adequately describe the average girl on the street and don’t think you would be able to do any better.
If you think about it, looking for the ONE girl with straight hair in a very limited cubby hole space isn’t too bad an instruction set. I am sure if the poster knew of other uniqueness to help he would have thrown them out. If not there are lots of girls around… don’t worry… be happy.
[QUOTE=Raj Chahal]When you nego with the girl for overnight, do you pay her when she leaves in the morning or pay her once she gets to your room?[/QUOTE]
Pay her when she gets to your room and chances are she won't be there in the morning, let alone after you come out of the shower that night...
Funny, when you read about it afterwards, not fun when you have to go through it. I have had similar situations.
Please post in the Dominican Republic thread about your Colombia adventures. To keep it DR related you could do a quick comparison. I have to do a trip to Colombia one of these days, it would be good to see how a Dom Rep vet compares the two countries, thanks.
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]Your welcome. Yeah that was my last good moment with her(forever). All hell was about to break loose. Thats the crazy chick I posted about in previous reports(shoe thrower, airport mugger, etc),
She asked if I was coming next month. I fucked up before I caught myself and tried to re-direct.
I replied next month I'm in Colom., then I caught myself and asked how her family was? I could see her mind processing this as she said nothing.
Here we go!
"You want to fuck other girls", "you never loved me", 'I only come to Sosua for you", "you promised me this laptop". Whoa I said one day I might give it to you. Also I gave you my old Blackberry and that fake iphone, that you gave to relatives.
Then she prayed, cried and started saying "muderficker". I asked her to be quiet for one minute so we can calm down. She never shut the fuck up.
I told her to "get the fuck out I'm thru with your ass"She said no. I threatened to call security. She said go ahead. I said lets go to the pool area to talk, she said no.
At this point I want her out my life completely. Something told me to do a room check being that she had been there two days:
Watch (check)
My touch phone (check)
Money count (check)
Platinum bracelet (check)
Camera (check)
Passport (check)
Credit cards (check)
I-touch ipod (ohoh)
I said nothing, snatched her purse off the bed stand and emptied it on the bed. Bingo. Being I let her play with it for two days she assumed it was her's.
To make a long story short I gave her a 3k pesos to get out and she left. She cheated herself because I was going to give her 5k pesos for the two days. Now she leaves text messages saying she's going to kill herself because I won't answer her phone calls. Damn if I want this type of drama I might as well go back to fucking with American chics. Anyway time gone, she is history and Colombia is coming. Life is good.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Raj Chahal]When you nego with the girl for overnight, do you pay her when she leaves in the morning or pay her once she gets to your room?[/QUOTE]Any chica who asks for the money up front is going to be trouble, period. Move on to another, even if you are 50 feet from your hotel and you have had a hardon for this one for the last hour in Classico's.
Whenever you hear "Papi, pay me first", she is going to be a scammer who wants quick money either for drugs, her pimp or whatever. Cut her loose and go get another.
[QUOTE=Impulsive2]Well tonight I did just that and Buscemi was right on the money.[/QUOTE]
We aim to please, glad you were able to make a deposit on Calle Ayuntimiento!
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]Your welcome. Yeah that was my last good moment with her(forever). All hell was about to break loose. Thats the crazy chick I posted about in previous reports(shoe thrower, airport mugger, etc),.......[/QUOTE]
Thanks Mr Gogo, I finally got to see the infamous shoe thrower. Watch out if she ever shows up wearing 6" heels.
Here is one good reason to be careful when renting a bike in Sosua.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaGvY25bBXU[/url]
[QUOTE=Bq Ribs]Thanks Mr Gogo, I finally got to see the infamous shoe thrower. Watch out if she ever shows up wearing 6" heels.
Here is one good reason to be careful when renting a bike in Sosua.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaGvY25bBXU[/url][/QUOTE]Man thats the funniest shit I've seen in a while.
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]I have a friend (older guy,retired lawyer)who now resides in puerto plata,who i sent an e-mail asking about Boca Chica back in the days.He tells stories about Boca in the 90's.
He stated several reasons for the decline;
(1)Three prostitutes were murdered by two Puerto Rican guys and two Dominicans.
(2) Police were arresting women who were walking the streets sola late at night.
(3)Boca chica was getting darker(women).
(4)Political pressure from Santo Domingo about an open air sex market.
(5)Juan Dolio's emergence as a destination.
He also said that at one time Boca was full of Italian and German mongerers and everything was cool.Then the Americans started coming.He didnt know if American mongers were the cause of the down fall.
Could this happen to Sosua?
In my opinion"yes".
Will it happen"no".
If Sosua had three prostitutes murdered,police harrassment of prostitues,and political pressure,kiss Sosua as we know it goodbye.Or on a lesser note if Classicos,latinos,and merengue shut down,Sosua woud be reduced to walk up bars at night,could it survive?
Luckily the Italian and Dominican club owners are all politically connected.Plus Sosua has a nice beach compared to that so called beach in Boca.Sosua can always use its beach as a drawing point.
Chief Justice hope this answers your question.I just hope in ten years that the Sosua board doesnt look like the Boca board does now (empty). And that people arent asking"what happened".[/QUOTE]Of course just like anything Sosua will have its rise and decline, but I don't know of anywhere else on the island that is as gringo friendly and convenient as Sosua. In order for another city to take sosua's place, there will have to be a lot of money invested into the infrastructure, night life and marketing. I know some of you mentioned new highways being built and maybe oneday the italians, russians, germans and whoever else has money invested in d. R. Just might make a town that is like a mini Rio DE Janerio or something. Plenty of clubs, beach and b******. But right now to me sosua is perfect for the monger who doesn't know spanish and just wants to lay up for a weekend or so.
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]"You want to fuck other girls", "you never loved me", 'I only come to Sosua for you", "you promised me this laptop". Whoa I said one day I might give it to you. Also I gave you my old Blackberry and that fake iphone, that you gave to relatives.
Then she prayed, cried and started saying "muderficker". I asked her to be quiet for one minute so we can calm down. She never shut the fuck up.
I told her to "get the fuck out I'm thru with your ass"She said no. I threatened to call security. She said go ahead. I said lets go to the pool area to talk, she said no.
[/QUOTE]Mr Gogo
Hey I got a $20 bet and a six pack of presidente that it's not over with u and that crazy broad. "PUSSY" is some powerful shit. Once you land in DR again she's going to track you down, put the pussy on you just the way you like it and your going to forgive her crazy ass lol
Is it me or does it seem like the real crazy broads give the best sexual experience!!!
[QUOTE=Chief Justice]......Of course just like anything Sosua will have its rise and decline, but I don't know of anywhere else on the island that is as gringo friendly and convenient as Sosua.........[/QUOTE]
I agree with you 100% on this. Sosua will always be the puta capital of the DR. No city will ever replace Sosua for being gringo friendly.
Santo Domingo will never, ever allow out in the open puta chasing. Boca Chica's rep has been so tarnished it will never bounce back. Juan Dolio and the other south coast beach towns won't allow the craziness that goes on in Sosua. Samana too much big money being invested there for mongers to take over.
There is no other city in the DR where you can always find English speaking people. My Spanish is terrible, terrible and at times I find myself in Santo Domingo going two or three days without meeting someone who speaks fluent English.
If it weren't for the mongers Sosua would shut down in a day. Sosua will survive as there will always be a new bunch of guys arriving.
[QUOTE=Bq Ribs]I agree with you 100% on this. Sosua will always be the puta capital of the DR. No city will ever replace Sosua for being gringo friendly.
Santo Domingo will never, ever allow out in the open puta chasing. Boca Chica's rep has been so tarnished it will never bounce back. Juan Dolio and the other south coast beach towns won't allow the craziness that goes on in Sosua. Samana too much big money being invested there for mongers to take over.
There is no other city in the DR where you can always find English speaking people. My Spanish is terrible, terrible and at times I find myself in Santo Domingo going two or three days without meeting someone who speaks fluent English.
If it weren't for the mongers Sosua would shut down in a day. Sosua will survive as there will always be a new bunch of guys arriving.[/QUOTE]There are other Sosua's,but the Germans and Italians go to great lengths to make sure Americans don't find out about it.Plus they learn the language.And are part of the culture(investments,marriage,children,).
There was just an interesting topic about tipping on the Medillin board.A guy that lives there advises against tipping(an American custom).Someone then stated that people don't like Americans because we want to dictate(force) our lifestyles on other cultures.I'm a proud American,but sometimes we are so arrogant that we fail to accept other cultures and traditions.We take but we dont give back sometimes.And we can be so selfish,even when it comes to our own.
Why isnt more American money invested in Sosua?It's because we dont support our own,as the Germans and Italians do.And the Germans and italians will never support our businesses(1)because of anti American views(2)because they have their own infrastructure.
DAMN,im watching the world cup and America just scored in the 90th minute.(calm down GoGo).
Iv'e lost my train of thought,but in closing.I feel very privledged to be American,but were not perfect.
[QUOTE=Coolie High]Mr Gogo
Hey I got a $20 bet and a six pack of presidente that it's not over with u and that crazy broad. "PUSSY" is some powerful shit. Once you land in DR again she's going to track you down, put the pussy on you just the way you like it and your going to forgive her crazy ass lol
Is it me or does it seem like the real crazy broads give the best sexual experience!!![/QUOTE]
I am in on this with you Coolie. Let's raise it to $50 and a case of Presidente.
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]There are other Sosua's,but the Germans and Italians go to great lengths to make sure Americans don't find out about it.Plus they learn the language.And are part of the culture(investments,marriage,children,).......[/QUOTE]
My comments about Sosua is that Sosua is the ONLY puta town in the DR where an English speaking gringo can get off the plane and find an abundant amount of putas in a English friendly speaking town. There is no other town with street lined puta bars. Let's not confuse those who live there with those who visit.
My first trips to Sosua I would hang out at Lou's bar and speak English all day long. I always met another monger who spoke English and would help with translations. Most hotels had an English speaking person. Couple this with the most putas centrally located and Sosua is not going anywhere.
Sosua has not changed much in the last five years. Only thing different are different faces of the mongers. Every year a new crew graduates from high school and sooner or later some of them will be the new guys in town.
Maybe things have changed and because I don't visit Sosua anymore I am not aware of it. My last zip through Sosua I could probably count the number of regular tourists on one hand (I know most are locked in the AIs).
One major change I have seen in Sosua is the amount of chica friendly hotels. Quite a few hotels that five years ago were not chica friendly now welcome the monger and his chica. Everything in Sosua is geared around the monger and his money.
My final words,,,,,,,,,,,,,,There is NO other Sosua in rep dom
In Sosua businesses come and go. When I first started going to Sosua, High Caribe was a large, popular discoteca about a mile from Classicos. The building is still there, it is close to where the Sosua Car wash is. D'Latinos was on the second floor of the white building, aboves Alf's Internet cafe on Ave Clisante, down the block and across the street from Classicos. Classicos didn't exist, when I first started going to Sosua.
I am not sure of the name of the bar that has D'Latinos in the back. It is an open air bar between El Flow and the Merengue Bar. I read years ago that an African American guy from the States bought that bar and renovated it, he may still be the owner today.
X bar across the street from Classicos has opened and closed several times, maybe the owners are Dominican.
The Italian guy who owns Sosua Bay Hotel and Classicos and who built the new casino, he doesn't get along with his own brother and they split their properties, with their hotel in Cabarete going to one brother. I am not sure if After One is still open.
Puerto Rican guys own Terra Linda.
There is a mix of Nationalities of business owners in Sosua. I can see how a German or a Dutch guy may want to stay in a hotel owned by a person who speaks his mother tongue.
Doesn't appear to be any hotels in Sosua that are owned by North Americans. Terra Linda is owned by Puerto Ricans and Puerto Rico is part of the United States.
When I stay in Santo Domingo, there are several smaller hotels owned by Americans, I would consider staying at those American owned hotels, one reason being that I could communicate with the owners in English. I can be lazy, it is just easier to communicate in English.
There was the white hotel across from New Garden that was empty for a long time, appears it may have been German owned.
I think there are a variety of factors that determine if a business is successful in Sosua. Nationality of the owners being a factor, but there are other factors as well. Not all German owned businesses do well, nor do all Italian owned businesses do well.
Some countries don't have a warm, tropical place in their countries. All of Germany is cold in the winter, all of Canada is cold in the winter, all of Holland is cold in the winter. The United States has Florida, the Gulf Coast and the south west, where it is warm in the winter. As such, Americans don't necessarily have to venture to another country to escape the cold winters. People from other countries might be more prone to open business in a tropical location like the Dom Rep, because they don't have that option in their own countries. Whereas Americans can open businesses in warmer parts of the U.S.
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]There are other Sosua's,but the Germans and Italians go to great lengths to make sure Americans don't find out about it.Plus they learn the language.And are part of the culture(investments,marriage,children,).
There was just an interesting topic about tipping on the Medillin board.A guy that lives there advises against tipping(an American custom).Someone then stated that people don't like Americans because we want to dictate(force) our lifestyles on other cultures.I'm a proud American,but sometimes we are so arrogant that we fail to accept other cultures and traditions.We take but we dont give back sometimes.And we can be so selfish,even when it comes to our own.
Why isnt more American money invested in Sosua?It's because we dont support our own,as the Germans and Italians do.And the Germans and italians will never support our businesses(1)because of anti American views(2)because they have their own infrastructure.
DAMN,im watching the world cup and America just scored in the 90th minute.(calm down GoGo).
Iv'e lost my train of thought,but in closing.I feel very privledged to be American,but were not perfect.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]There are other Sosua's,but the Germans and Italians go to great lengths to make sure Americans don't find out about it. [/QUOTE]These topics interest me quite a bit as I lived in Germany and did nothing but trade views with European people. I have never come across this keep away from American mentality though. How did this view settle into you ?
Germans are the most well traveled country in the world second to none. There country is cold weathered and their work force gets 6 weeks of vacation/yr and then add on a significant number of national holidays. (We are talking about a 10 month work year in exchange for a 50% tax bracket). This manifests into there being travel agents on every street corner that has windows plastered with tons of vacation offers. Most of the places I have never heard of. I remember seeing Puerto Plata quite frequently and at great prices. Spanish speaking countries are the places where Germans tend to go the least.
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]...Someone then stated that people don't like Americans because we want to dictate(force) our lifestyles on other cultures.[/QUOTE]This is exactly what the nations in the middle east have said, verbatim. No country likes the Americans shoving their version of democracy, morality, and society down their throats (TV) and I don't blame them. It is too bad the world tends to only remember the ugly American facade because as a country we are not as arrogant as portrayed.
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]I'm a proud American,but sometimes we are so arrogant that we fail to accept other cultures and traditions.We take but we dont give back sometimes.And we can be so selfish,even when it comes to our own.[/QUOTE]We do give as a nation... ONLY if there is longer term $ in it which is another reason why other countries resent us.
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]...And the Germans and italians will never support our businesses(1)because of anti American views(2)because they have their own infrastructure.[/QUOTE]I think it goes a little deeper than this. In the SF bay area, the Asians typically only spend their money at other Asian owned businesses. Latinos tend to do the same and for sure the Filipinos are no different. In general, people tend spend their money at places where they feel most comfortable with the mentality of the people they are buying from.
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]DAMN,im watching the world cup and America just scored in the 90th minute.(calm down GoGo).[/QUOTE]Hooray! I was giving up on them as they were in extra time... then BOOM!!!! Hopefully we don't have to play the Germans in the next round. They make me very uncomfortable being a very crafty bunch.
Ehunter,
Thanks for your considerate reply. From my view Germans are explorers, they seem to be the first, then later others come. Your post explained alot of why this is. Maybe if I lived in Germany I would have a different take on them. As I stated before before I think Wilfred(new Garden) is a great guy. But other Germans in Sosua seem distant. Maybe it steams from my desire to meet people from other countries, but Germans in Sosua don't appear receptive to this view.
Bq Ribs and Coolie high, my track record with this chic says you made a good bet LMAO. But she never tried to steal from me before. Even though she didn't look at it that way. I wouldn't fell like I can trust her around me anymore.
Currently I reside at a Sosua rehabilitation Facility at an undisclosed location. Also there are alot of former ISG members here for treatment. Homeland security has been notified that we are not allowed to board any flights with the Dominican Republic as a destination. Todays speakers are Colombian and Brazilian girls in bathing suits, preaching for their countries as future destinations. No presidente's are served.
[QUOTE=Jaosousa]In Sosua businesses come and go. When I first started going to Sosua, High Caribe was a large, popular discoteca about a mile from Classicos. The building is still there, it is close to where the Sosua Car wash is. D'Latinos was on the second floor of the white building, aboves Alf's Internet cafe on Ave Clisante, down the block and across the street from Classicos. Classicos didn't exist, when I first started going to Sosua.
I am not sure of the name of the bar that has D'Latinos in the back. It is an open air bar between El Flow and the Merengue Bar. I read years ago that an African American guy from the States bought that bar and renovated it, he may still be the owner today.
X bar across the street from Classicos has opened and closed several times, maybe the owners are Dominican.
The Italian guy who owns Sosua Bay Hotel and Classicos and who built the new casino, he doesn't get along with his own brother and they split their properties, with their hotel in Cabarete going to one brother. I am not sure if After One is still open.
Puerto Rican guys own Terra Linda.
There is a mix of Nationalities of business owners in Sosua. I can see how a German or a Dutch guy may want to stay in a hotel owned by a person who speaks his mother tongue.
Doesn't appear to be any hotels in Sosua that are owned by North Americans. Terra Linda is owned by Puerto Ricans and Puerto Rico is part of the United States.
When I stay in Santo Domingo, there are several smaller hotels owned by Americans, I would consider staying at those American owned hotels, one reason being that I could communicate with the owners in English. I can be lazy, it is just easier to communicate in English.
There was the white hotel across from New Garden that was empty for a long time, appears it may have been German owned.
I think there are a variety of factors that determine if a business is successful in Sosua. Nationality of the owners being a factor, but there are other factors as well. Not all German owned businesses do well, nor do all Italian owned businesses do well.
Some countries don't have a warm, tropical place in their countries. All of Germany is cold in the winter, all of Canada is cold in the winter, all of Holland is cold in the winter. The United States has Florida, the Gulf Coast and the south west, where it is warm in the winter. As such, Americans don't necessarily have to venture to another country to escape the cold winters. People from other countries might be more prone to open business in a tropical location like the Dom Rep, because they don't have that option in their own countries. Whereas Americans can open businesses in warmer parts of the U.S.[/QUOTE]Very good report.
Very informative,
Thanks
[QUOTE=Jaosousa] Doesn't appear to be any hotels in Sosua that are owned by North Americans. [/QUOTE]Correction, Canada is part of North America. Rockys is owned by a Canadian guy. Some rental condominiums are owned by people from the United States and from Canada.
Just read this on DR1
[url]http://www.****************north-coast/104013-police-swarm-merengue-classico-bar.html[/url]
In the last hour, (it is currently 12.50pm), dozens of police just swarmed the Merengue/Classico bar in Sosua. The owner, Armando, was apparently arrrested. I have heard tht this started yesterday but today's police bust was the first I have heard of it. Anybody got any info? Please post only if you have true information.
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]..........Bq Ribs and Coolie high, my track record with this chic says you made a good bet LMAO. But she never tried to steal from me before. Even though she didn't look at it that way. I wouldn't fell like I can trust her around me anymore.........[/QUOTE]
Just make sure you pay up.......... LOL
I don't think the chica was trying to steal your iTouch. You said she had been using it for two days so to her she was responsible for it. If I am correct she had it in her pocketbook before the argument started. Right? Now don't get me wrong if you packed your bags and left town without asking for it back it might have been the last time you would have seen it. That is not outright stealing. She borrowed it with hopes you would either forget or just give it to her.
Now the two of you kiss and make up cuz you know it won't be long and you are going to want to tap that stuff one more time. We men here so be honest. LMFAO
You really thinking about doing Columbia or Brazil. I don't entertain that though because anything over a 5 hour flight is not for me.
[QUOTE=Bq Ribs]Just read this on DR1
[url]http://www.****************north-coast/104013-police-swarm-merengue-classico-bar.html[/url]
In the last hour, (it is currently 12.50pm), dozens of police just swarmed the Merengue/Classico bar in Sosua. The owner, Armando, was apparently arrrested. I have heard tht this started yesterday but today's police bust was the first I have heard of it. Anybody got any info? Please post only if you have true information.[/QUOTE]Could this be the beginning of a change in Sosua as i predicted?
[QUOTE=Bq Ribs]Just read this on DR1
[url]http://www.****************north-coast/104013-police-swarm-merengue-classico-bar.html[/url]
In the last hour, (it is currently 12.50pm), dozens of police just swarmed the Merengue/Classico bar in Sosua. The owner, Armando, was apparently arrrested. I have heard tht this started yesterday but today's police bust was the first I have heard of it. Anybody got any info? Please post only if you have true information.[/QUOTE]When I read that other board, lots of bad news on there, about murders and thefts.
Funny, lol.
Jetblue has flights to Bogota. Nice thing about Jetblue, you can pay an extra $40 US and get seats in the first 4 rows which have more leg room. I agree, a 5 plus hour flight, crammed into an economy seat is almost like torture.
[QUOTE=Bq Ribs]Just make sure you pay up.......... LOL
I don't think the chica was trying to steal your iTouch. You said she had been using it for two days so to her she was responsible for it. If I am correct she had it in her pocketbook before the argument started. Right? Now don't get me wrong if you packed your bags and left town without asking for it back it might have been the last time you would have seen it. That is not outright stealing. She borrowed it with hopes you would either forget or just give it to her.
Now the two of you kiss and make up cuz you know it won't be long and you are going to want to tap that stuff one more time. We men here so be honest. LMFAO
You really thinking about doing Columbia or Brazil. I don't entertain that though because anything over a 5 hour flight is not for me.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]Currently I reside at a Sosua rehabilitation Facility at an undisclosed location. Also there are alot of former ISG members here for treatment. Homeland security has been notified that we are not allowed to board any flights with the Dominican Republic as a destination. Todays speakers are Colombian and Brazilian girls in bathing suits, preaching for their countries as future destinations. No presidente's are served.[/QUOTE]Aahh yes I believe I've gotten that brochure recently from homeland security. It was written in spainish and Portuguese and it was stating how the girls are cheaper in Columbia and the asses are phatter in Brazil. And because of that "SO-SOWER" should be ban from your future travel destination.
BUT the brochure forgot about notifying people that the flights are around 1500 dollars round trip. Ooh and you have to get a visa which cost another 200 just to touchdown in the country. Needless to say I burned the brochure. I'm still in my cheap bastard mode and in-love with the dominician/haitian culture.
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]Could this be the beginning of a change in Sosua as i predicted?[/QUOTE]
LOL, you are intent on the demise of So-Sewer............... The Su ain't going nowhere.
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]Very good report.
Very informative,
Thanks[/QUOTE]Passions Massage was a small open air bar with no walls, when I first arrived in Sosua. I can remember one trip going to look for Passions and I walked right by it. The owner had put up walls and I didn't recognize the place from the outside.
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]Ehunter,
Currently I reside at a Sosua rehabilitation Facility at an undisclosed location. Also there are alot of former ISG members here for treatment. Homeland security has been notified that we are not allowed to board any flights with the Dominican Republic as a destination. Todays speakers are Colombian and Brazilian girls in bathing suits, preaching for their countries as future destinations. No presidente's are served.[/QUOTE]How do I get there.
I need to go to rehab - how do I get there.
[QUOTE=Bq Ribs]LOL, you are intent on the demise of So-Sewer............... The Su ain't going nowhere.[/QUOTE]I say change you say demise,bottom line Sosua needs a Makeover. New venues,new names, new girls.The only thing new about Sosua is Terra Linda.
Jao made a good point.Not to long ago Sosua had high caribe as the spot, Sabor tells me the palace also was hot back then.Sosua reinvented itself to get where we are now.Time to do it again.Demise noo.
Any vets from back in those days,please tell us what was going on then.Thanks.
[QUOTE=Coolie High]Aahh yes I believe I've gotten that brochure recently from homeland security. It was written in spainish and Portuguese and it was stating how the girls are cheaper in Columbia and the asses are phatter in Brazil. And because of that "SO-SOWER" should be ban from your future travel destination.
BUT the brochure forgot about notifying people that the flights are around 1500 dollars round trip. Ooh and you have to get a visa which cost another 200 just to touchdown in the country. Needless to say I burned the brochure. I'm still in my cheap bastard mode and in-love with the dominician/haitian culture.[/QUOTE]I second that!
Jao
Terra Linda's owners are from Miami. However, they may be Puerto Rican.
And how about Jihad who owns Seabreeze. He is also from Miami but clearly not native. But then no one, here in Miami, is a native.
The white hotel across from NG is doing good biz with German tourists.
Lou who owns the Shark Bar is a New Yorker.
Derrick who owns Big D's is from Atlanta.
Fred who owns Cuba Libre is americano but I don't know from where.
And I'm wondering if the arrest of Armando is related to the killing of the Portland lawyer.
Thanks, I had read that owners of terra linda were puerto rican guys who used to own the Met Supermarkets in New York. The Cuban guys who own 305 in Santo Domingo live in miami, I was told.
I read about that American guy who was shot and killed in Sosua recently, supposedly nothing was stolen from the guy's house. That guy Armando was never simpatico with me.
[QUOTE=Koki9290]Jao
Terra Linda's owners are from Miami. However, they may be Puerto Rican.
And how about Jihad who owns Seabreeze. He is also from Miami but clearly not native. But then no one, here in Miami, is a native.
The white hotel across from NG is doing good biz with German tourists.
Lou who owns the Shark Bar is a New Yorker.
Derrick who owns Big D's is from Atlanta.
Fred who owns Cuba Libre is americano but I don't know from where.
And I'm wondering if the arrest of Armando is related to the killing of the Portland lawyer.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Koki9290]And I'm wondering if the arrest of Armando is related to the killing of the Portland lawyer.[/QUOTE]Good article about the American guy who was killed in Sosua, in English: [url]http://www.oregonlive.com/business/index.ssf/2010/06/tarlows_slaying_raises_questio.html[/url]
Armando is one of the owners of the Sosua Bay Hotel, Classicos and the new casino. The American guy who was killed and his partners had invested 1.8 million dollars into the casino. They were fighting Armando in Court for control of the hotel and casino.
Armando would be a prime suspect, someone you are fighting in court turns up dead, makes you a suspect.
[QUOTE=Koki9290]Jao,
Terra Linda's owners are from Miami. However, they may be Puerto Rican.
And how about Jihad who owns Seabreeze. He is also from Miami but clearly not native. But then no one, here in Miami, is a native.
The white hotel across from NG is doing good biz with German tourists.
Lou who owns the Shark Bar is a New Yorker.
Derrick who owns Big D's is from Atlanta.
Fred who owns Cuba Libre is americano but I don't know from where.
And I'm wondering if the arrest of Armando is related to the killing of the Portland lawyer.[/QUOTE]I think jihad is Pakistanian but grew up in Peru and Mia.
[QUOTE=Koki9290] And I'm wondering if the arrest of Armando is related to the killing of the Portland lawyer.[/QUOTE]I would never go into Classicos again and I would never stay at the Sosua Bay Hotel as long as that guy Armando is the owner of those places. Armando was not friendly when I said hello to him a few times and now it appears he is involved with the murder of an American lawyer in Sosua.
[QUOTE=Koki9290] And I'm wondering if the arrest of Armando is related to the killing of the Portland lawyer.[/QUOTE]Arrests made in the killing of the American lawyer in Sosua:
[url]http://www.dominicantoday.com/dr/local/2010/6/13/35996/Twoarrests-in-murder-of-US-lawyer-at-Dominican-resort-town[/url]
The police arrested a foreigner there, not Armando or anyone connected to the bar. It had something to do with a woman, he is already out.
[QUOTE=Jaosousa]I would never go into Classicos again and I would never stay at the Sosua Bay Hotel as long as that guy Armando is the owner of those places. Armando was not friendly when I said hello to him a few times and now it appears he is involved with the murder of an American lawyer in Sosua.[/QUOTE]This thing is getting deeper and deeper.
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]......bottom line Sosua needs a Makeover. New venues,new names, new girls.The only thing new about Sosua is Terra Linda........[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]........Any vets from back in those days,please tell us what was going on then.Thanks.[/QUOTE]
When was your first trip to Sosua? I made my first visit May 2005 and a quick drive through in May 2010. Things are basically the same. A few new bar names, different hotel names, more putas and more mongers with fewer regular tourists.
You want change? You need to change your location cuz the town of Sosua ain't gonna change.
Within a year I did four trips to Sosua (2005). I needed a change so I tried a trip Boca Chica/Sosua. In Boca Chica I found the cute chicas with sailor outfits, a new friend nipple lady and a different scene. Little did I know that was the beginning of the end of Sosua for me. Trip six to rep dom I went to Boca Chica/Santo Domingo. Hitting Santo Domingo nailed the coffin shut on my Sosua days. Once I hit SD I had no desire to return to Sosua.
In 2005 as mentioned John's Palace was the spot. Europa also was one of the main hotels to stay at. New Garden was under a different name and chica friendly but few guys knew about the place. One Ocean Place was the best low key chica friendly hotel. Lou's Shark Bar was on the beach. SeaCrets was preparing to open. You could roll out of your bed anytime at night and just about all the bars were open. No curfew in them days.
I have nothing against Sosua the way it is. I think the city is great for guys who like the wild west atmosphere of Sosua. Just my two pesos but I don't think Sosua needs to change a thing. Sosua will continue to survive just the way it is. NO makeover necessary.
Is the Magic Man still in town? Maybe he can help with the makeover.....
[QUOTE=Bq Ribs]When was your first trip to Sosua? I made my first visit May 2005 and a quick drive through in May 2010. Things are basically the same. A few new bar names, different hotel names, more putas and more mongers with fewer regular tourists.
You want change? You need to change your location because the town of Sosua ain't going to change.
Within a year I did four trips to Sosua (2005). I needed a change so I tried a trip Boca Chica/Sosua. In Boca Chica I found the cute chicas with sailor outfits, a new friend nipple lady and a different scene. Little did I know that was the beginning of the end of Sosua for me. Trip six to rep dom I went to Boca Chica/Santo Domingo. Hitting Santo Domingo nailed the coffin shut on my Sosua days. Once I hit SD I had no desire to return to Sosua.
In 2005 as mentioned John's Palace was the spot. Europa also was one of the main hotels to stay at. New Garden was under a different name and chica friendly but few guys knew about the place. One Ocean Place was the best low key chica friendly hotel. Lou's Shark Bar was on the beach. SeaCrets was preparing to open. You could roll out of your bed anytime at night and just about all the bars were open. No curfew in them days.
I have nothing against Sosua the way it is. I think the city is great for guys who like the wild west atmosphere of Sosua. Just my two pesos but I don't think Sosua needs to change a thing. Sosua will continue to survive just the way it is. NO makeover necessary.
Is the Magic Man still in town? Maybe he can help with the makeover.[/QUOTE]That's Batista, he smokes through his nose.
[QUOTE=Bq Ribs]When was your first trip to Sosua? I made my first visit May 2005 and a quick drive through in May 2010. Things are basically the same. A few new bar names, different hotel names, more putas and more mongers with fewer regular tourists.
You want change? You need to change your location because the town of Sosua ain't going to change.
Within a year I did four trips to Sosua (2005). I needed a change so I tried a trip Boca Chica/Sosua. In Boca Chica I found the cute chicas with sailor outfits, a new friend nipple lady and a different scene. Little did I know that was the beginning of the end of Sosua for me. Trip six to rep dom I went to Boca Chica/Santo Domingo. Hitting Santo Domingo nailed the coffin shut on my Sosua days. Once I hit SD I had no desire to return to Sosua.
In 2005 as mentioned John's Palace was the spot. Europa also was one of the main hotels to stay at. New Garden was under a different name and chica friendly but few guys knew about the place. One Ocean Place was the best low key chica friendly hotel. Lou's Shark Bar was on the beach. SeaCrets was preparing to open. You could roll out of your bed anytime at night and just about all the bars were open. No curfew in them days.
I have nothing against Sosua the way it is. I think the city is great for guys who like the wild west atmosphere of Sosua. Just my two pesos but I don't think Sosua needs to change a thing. Sosua will continue to survive just the way it is. NO makeover necessary.
Is the Magic Man still in town? Maybe he can help with the makeover.[/QUOTE]My first trip to Sosua was in 06. My dad and his brothers/buddies had been going to BB for years. Before 06 I didn't even know where the Dominican Republic was. My first trip was to BB and I loved it.
My Dad was doing a Grand opening for the biz in Cabarette. He was dissappointed because I hadn't taken an interest in the biz. We had a falling out, my credit card was shut down because I rented a car, and I had to much pride to ask anybody for anything.
After the grand opening everybody went to Classicos, my cousin and I had these two cuties. Its 3am we got girls and liquor and I'm ready to party. My cousin wants to go play in the ocean(at 3am)with these girls. I said fuck this and took the liquor and went to my room solo. An hour later one of the girls knocks on my door saying for a hundred dollars I can have her. I was broke, but said I was tired.
Well I'm eating breakfast and my cousin comes down with both chicks smiling. Everybody is looking at me like "WTF'. Everybody started ripping me, and I ripped back. We almost had a family riot at that breakfast table. I walked away, and went to Sosua and they didn't hear from me for months. Everybody eventually reconciled, but I was hooked on Sosua.
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo] ...But other Germans in Sosua seem distant. Maybe it steams from my desire to meet people from other countries, but Germans in Sosua don't appear receptive to this view.[/QUOTE]
I forgot to add this to my previous message, and most will find it appalling, as I did, bit it is true. I seem to remember a LAW in Germany that pertains to Low income earners, whereas these low income people are entitled to a vacation the same way as a person with a stable decent-earning job. The country gives those people money to take a vacation!!! This makes it even easier to understand why Germans are so well traveled.
Anyway, about your observation with Germans being distant.... Not only do non-Germans feel this way about them, but the Germans also agree they are this way themselves in their own country!!! LOL
It is carry over mentality that is hundreds of years old. Without getting into their history, Germans don't like associating outside their own immediate circles because it imposes commitments that come with the relationships that they rather not put energy into. Those commitments take away their time and use energy in ways which they don't think is "efficient".
In General, the shorter the term of the "value" commitment, the more likely it is you will get shunned. So dont take it personally because the Germans do this quite commonly to themselves too!
[QUOTE=Chief Justice]This thing is getting deeper and deeper.[/QUOTE]The American lawyer had been in the U.S. Military and served in Vietnam and Europe. He was a sports guy who played college basketball and ran marathons. He started a foundation to help Dominican kids pay for college. He bought a million dollar home in the playa chiquito section of Sosua.
Armando the guy who owns classicos, sosua bay hotel and victorian house, wanted to build a casino/convention center supposedly next door to the Victorian House.
The American lawyer who was killed was part of a group that invested 1.8 million with Armando, for Armando to build the casino and convention center.
Supposedly the work never got completed. The casino and convention center were supposed to open in 2007. The American lawyer fought Armando in Court for the last 3 years trying to get his group's 1.8 millions dollar investment back.
For the 1.8 million investment Armando received, he put up the Victorian House as collateral. A Dominican judge determined that the Victorian House would be auctioned off to the highest bidder and the proceeds going to American's group of investors.
The day before the Judge was to set an auction date, the American lawyer was shot 4 times in the bedroom of his home in Sosua. Supposedly the most recent documents regarding the ongoing battle with Armando were missing from his house. Expensive items in her his house including his Lexus motor vehicle, were not stolen.
The guy Armando may be a sociopath. I can remember the youtube video of him, when he was fighting with the Dominican owners of X bar. I knew a guy who used to work at Sosua Bay Hotel and he said Armando and one of his brothers did not like each other and they had to split the family owned business, which included hotels in Sosua and Cabarete. From the Oregon Live article, it states Armando had a business partner with whom he would have fights, where gunshots were fired. Maybe Armando did not kill the American lawyer. But for me, I would not support any business associated with a guy like Armando.
[QUOTE=Ehunter]I forgot to add this to my previous message, and most will find it appalling, as I did, bit it is true. I seem to remember a LAW in Germany that pertains to Low income earners, whereas these low income people are entitled to a vacation the same way as a person with a stable decent-earning job. The country gives those people money to take a vacation!!! This makes it even easier to understand why Germans are so well traveled.
Anyway, about your observation with Germans being distant.... Not only do non-Germans feel this way about them, but the Germans also agree they are this way themselves in their own country!!! LOL
It is carry over mentality that is hundreds of years old. Without getting into their history, Germans don't like associating outside their own immediate circles because it imposes commitments that come with the relationships that they rather not put energy into. Those commitments take away their time and use energy in ways which they don't think is "efficient".
In General, the shorter the term of the "value" commitment, the more likely it is you will get shunned. So dont take it personally because the Germans do this quite commonly to themselves too![/QUOTE]Your "statement" is wrong from A - Z
[QUOTE=Ehunter]I forgot to add this to my previous message, and most will find it appalling, as I did, bit it is true. I seem to remember a LAW in Germany that pertains to Low income earners, whereas these low income people are entitled to a vacation the same way as a person with a stable decent-earning job. The country gives those people money to take a vacation!!! This makes it even easier to understand why Germans are so well traveled.
Anyway, about your observation with Germans being distant.... Not only do non-Germans feel this way about them, but the Germans also agree they are this way themselves in their own country!!! LOL
It is carry over mentality that is hundreds of years old. Without getting into their history, Germans don't like associating outside their own immediate circles because it imposes commitments that come with the relationships that they rather not put energy into. Those commitments take away their time and use energy in ways which they don't think is "efficient".
In General, the shorter the term of the "value" commitment, the more likely it is you will get shunned. So dont take it personally because the Germans do this quite commonly to themselves too![/QUOTE]Thanks for your opinion.One day I hope to meet you over a beer.I think we will have a very interesting conversation.You seem well traveled and knowledgeable.
[QUOTE=Chief Justice]This thing is getting deeper and deeper.[/QUOTE]The killed American lawyer had invested in the new casino across from the Sosua Bay Hotel. From reading the articles it appeared that maybe they were planning on building something adjacent to the Victorian House. This link shows how the new casino was supposed to look when it opened in November 2007; [url]http://www.sosuabayresort.com/sosuabay-center.htm[/url]
Some members may not appreciate me posting information regarding the murder of an American in Sosua, on this thread. However for me, since Classicos, which is a popular monger hangout for Americans, is owned by a guy who may have tried to defraud a fellow American and quite possibly may have had something to with the American's murder, it might be useful information, so that mongers may decide to spend their money in other bars in Sosua and not stay at the Sosua Bay Hotel.
Very interesting and different start to Sosua chica chasing. I like many guys had finalized my divorce, realized I wasn't getting any younger and just decided to do something different. I always loved women so buying pussy was no big deal to me. I searched online and found a place in Florida you just show up, pay and they give you ladies to enjoy, hotel, food, the whole nine yards. Me being the cheap dude I am kept searching cuz they wanted way too much money.
I found a costa rica tica online message board. Did my research and off to Costa Rica I went. When I got back someone on the message board mentioned the Dominican Republic and Sosua. I took a chance and gave Sosua a try....................rest is history
Sosua has ruined a lot of good upstanding citizens...............hahahahaha
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]My first trip to Sosua was in 06. My dad and his brothers/buddies had been going to BB for years. Before 06 I didn't even know where the Dominican Republic was. My first trip was to BB and I loved it.
My Dad was doing a Grand opening for the biz in Cabarette. He was dissappointed because I hadn't taken an interest in the biz. We had a falling out, my credit card was shut down because I rented a car, and I had to much pride to ask anybody for anything.
After the grand opening everybody went to Classicos, my cousin and I had these two cuties. Its 3am we got girls and liquor and I'm ready to party. My cousin wants to go play in the ocean(at 3am)with these girls. I said fuck this and took the liquor and went to my room solo. An hour later one of the girls knocks on my door saying for a hundred dollars I can have her. I was broke, but said I was tired.
Well I'm eating breakfast and my cousin comes down with both chicks smiling. Everybody is looking at me like "WTF'. Everybody started ripping me, and I ripped back. We almost had a family riot at that breakfast table. I walked away, and went to Sosua and they didn't hear from me for months. Everybody eventually reconciled, but I was hooked on Sosua.[/QUOTE]
Suffice it to say that I find it appalling that you find it appalling. Or as my Haitian favorita once noted: "The poor do not get a vacation. They work 16 h a day. " In Germany, even the poor get a break.
Your other observations about the German psyche are just folklore. I am German. I am American. Two passports. And you do not have a clue.
[QUOTE=Ehunter]I forgot to add this to my previous message, and most will find it appalling, as I did, bit it is true. I seem to remember a LAW in Germany that pertains to Low income earners, whereas these low income people are entitled to a vacation the same way as a person with a stable decent-earning job. The country gives those people money to take a vacation! This makes it even easier to understand why Germans are so well traveled.
Anyway, about your observation with Germans being distant. Not only do non-Germans feel this way about them, but the Germans also agree they are this way themselves in their own country! LOL
It is carry over mentality that is hundreds of years old. Without getting into their history, Germans don't like associating outside their own immediate circles because it imposes commitments that come with the relationships that they rather not put energy into. Those commitments take away their time and use energy in ways which they don't think is "efficient".
In General, the shorter the term of the "value" commitment, the more likely it is you will get shunned. So don't take it personally because the Germans do this quite commonly to themselves too![/QUOTE]
[quote=dw1987]the police arrested a foreigner there, not armando or anyone connected to the bar. it had something to do with a woman, he is already out.[/quote]i read on another board, that the police took armando's computer and confirep001ed some of his guns. as a person on another board stated, the police usually do not show up with 12 or more officers for some petty crime involving a woman.
appears to me, the raid they carried out at classicos was part of the investigation into the murder of the american lawyer in sosua.
[QUOTE=Bq Ribs]I found a costa rica tica online message board. Did my research and off to Costa Rica I went. When I got back someone on the message board mentioned the Dominican Republic and Sosua. I took a chance and gave Sosua a try....................rest is history.[/QUOTE]My first time learning about DR started when I was in college. Found this board and was mesmerized by the stories the orignator J***yDR was reporting about Sosua and became hooked ever since. Finally made my journey to Sosua in 2007. First nite was overwelm by the selection.So much so that I pick an ugly broad cus I couldn't make up my mind. No matter got her to the crib and smashed her in the pool. Good memories
[QUOTE=Chief Justice]I think jihad is Pakistanian but grew up in Peru and Mia.[/QUOTE]
Jihad is Christian Maronite Lebanese and lived most of his life in Miami.
As last I checked this is a discussion board. To say "one does not have a clue" or "they are wrong from A-Z", without trying to validate your point is pointless. Please feel free to expand on your views on this topic. The only problem will be if we get away from the Sosua topic others will complain. But a brief reflection of your feelings is appreciated.
Jaososua, this is Sosua information regarding the topic of"murdered attorney in Sosua", it is relevant. The sad part is, that if this guy was a normal 'JOE" it would'nt be a topic. But this guy was an attorney, Business man, well educated, well respected, and American. This will vibrate all the way to President Lionel. The message must be recieved that non Dominicans can not be murdered without justice.
The subject of sex in Sosua has not been discussed recently. But recent events require dialog. There are major recent developments that affect ALL mongerers in Sosua. To be honest, this board regarding sex and adventure info has been reduced to five guys(J, Bq, CJ, Ch, SP,). So if your not a regular information provider, don't feel free to make a cameo appearance to critize and run away. Stand tall, make your point, and respect other peoples opinions. Respectfully yours GoGo.
[QUOTE=Don Antonio]Suffice it to say that I find it appalling that you find it appalling. Or as my Haitian favorita once noted: "The poor do not get a vacation. They work 16 h a day. " In Germany, even the poor get a break.
Your other observations about the German psyche are just folklore. I am German. I am American. Two passports. And you do not have a clue.[/QUOTE]
Well let me clue you in on something. It maybe folklore for some but they are hard opinions for other Germans. When all Germans get together and feel the same way about it your opinion might carry more weight. My impressions came from MULTIPLE people living there their whole life, not just part time. I just absorbed the information and passed it along. If you don't like what I passed along... then tough tiddlywinks.
Sorry though about my remarks about vacation and the use of the word "appalling". Shocking is probably a better word to use as I never thought I would ever learn of such a system. (not to mean that a low earner does not deserve a vacation)
Oh... and by the way... Since your the one who HAS a clue, why don't you provide your perspective as to why many accuse the Germans as being so despondent to strangers? Or, is it not acceptable for somebody with only half status to be qualified enough to give such an opinion?
[quote=dw1987]the police arrested a foreigner there, not armando or anyone connected to the bar. it had something to do with a woman, he is already out.[/quote]from oregon.live: "sosua police executed a search warrant thursday and confirep001ed a pistol and a revolver, said eddie bueno disla, the lead investigator on tarlow's killing. bueno said he had detained two people -- the driver and security guard of sosua businessman armando casciati."
[url]http://www.oregonlive.com/business/index.ssf/2010/06/dominicans_seize_guns_detain_t.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Ehunter]I stand buy everything I wrote. These impressions came from MULTIPLE people living there their whole life. I just absorbed them and passed them along. If you don't like what I passed along... then tough tiddlywinks.[/QUOTE]When I traveled through Europe there were stereotypes about every country, and even within countries there were stereotypes. When I was in my Milan, the Italians in Milan, would say the southern part of the country including Rome was corrupt. When I was in Rome, Italians in Rome would say people in Naples were thieves (the best chicas with the worst brothers, as some of my Roman friends would say about Naples).
The British had the get drunk and get rowdy stereotype. Germans were seen as being cold.
French people as being snooty, which I kind of agree with. I hung out with people from just about every country in Europe, except people from France. The French people I came across were never very friendly to me. I met people from many European countries and they would invite me to stay in their homes, even though they had just met me (as well as the University chicas).
I am English and I have generally found Germans to be sociable and helpful, whether in my country, their country (where I lived for a year) or a third country such as the DR. I have also found that even those doing quite menial jobs often speak good or excellent English.
Not surprising really as, despite having fought two major wars within the last hundred years, the two nations (with the Dutch) are racially, linguistically and culturally very close.
One area I would except from this is the older generation in the Catholic and rural South where people used to be more cut off from the rest of the World and were suspicious of foreigners and non-Catholics, though this has also changed in modern times.
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]......The subject of sex in Sosua has not been discussed recently. But recent events require dialog. There are major recent developments that affect ALL mongerers in Sosua. To be honest, this board regarding sex and adventure info has been reduced to five guys(J, Bq, CJ, Ch, SP,). So if your not a regular information provider, don't feel free to make a cameo appearance to critize and run away. Stand tall, make your point, and respect other peoples opinions. Respectfully yours GoGo.[/QUOTE]
True the subject of sex in Sosua has been side tracked a bit but you can't talk about pussy 24/7. You need to take time out to throw some shoes around. LOL You should have never told me that cuz I am gonna tease you to no end (simply cause I know you a man and can take the punches).
It would be nice to see some other guys jump in and speak their mind. One good thing about the DR forums guys don't get attacked if their view is different. I always click the pictures to see how many views they have. Amazing, a photo can have over one hundred views and no one can post any type of comment. Come on guys, if you don't like the pic at least post she one ugly ***** and post something better.
Although not a Sosua traveler I read this forum daily as there is always something new to learn. I have quite a few trips to rep dom under my belt but I still learn from newbies.
[QUOTE=Coolie High]My first time learning about DR started when I was in college. Found this board and was mesmerized by the stories the orignator J***yDR was reporting about Sosua and became hooked ever since. Finally made my journey to Sosua in 2007. First nite was overwelm by the selection.So much so that I pick an ugly broad cus I couldn't make up my mind. No matter got her to the crib and smashed her in the pool. Good memories[/QUOTE]
I know what you mean by being overwelmed by the selection of chicas. First time it happend to me I walked into the Blue Marlin bar in San Jose, Costa Rica. I have never seen so many fine ass chicas in one place in my life. Hell, I was a grown ass man and was about ready to turn around and run out the door. I didn't stay long as I needed some fresh air to regain my composure.
I still remember my first few trips to the DR and every ten seconds from the time I left the airport I would be turning my head to check out the chicas. I used to wonder why the locals never really bothered to notice the Dominicanas. I guess living in the DR and seeing these beautiful chicas every day of your life you don't take notice. Where I live in the USA I can go the entire day and maybe count a dozen fine chicas.
I agree with both of what you say Jaososua and Charles. I think what you experience depends on a lot of variables though. But to say what has been described is not accurate anymore as a sterotype is just plain ignorance.
I have come across what Bigups is talking about because I have seen what he describes as Germans being “cold”. Then the many young families I know relocating from the north of Germany to small villages in Reinland Falz (for work) today still feel like outsiders in their new villages. I have also spoken to those accused of being cold and did my best to echo their mentality.
FWIW, I was branded by most everyone as an American with an European mentality during the 10year time span I lived and worked there. I had lot of conversations with an awful lot of people mainly because I was considered by all as unique commodity in my environment.
Anyway, enough of this. DA has shown me he certainly is not the cultural authority and I certainly don’t claim the title myself. The intelligent reader probably might want to choose their position to be somewhere in between.
[QUOTE=Bq Ribs]True the subject of sex in Sosua has been side tracked a bit but you can't talk about pussy 24/7. You need to take time out to throw some shoes around. LOL You should have never told me that cuz I am gonna tease you to no end (simply cause I know you a man and can take the punches).
It would be nice to see some other guys jump in and speak their mind. One good thing about the DR forums guys don't get attacked if their view is different. I always click the pictures to see how many views they have. Amazing, a photo can have over one hundred views and no one can post any type of comment. Come on guys, if you don't like the pic at least post she one ugly ***** and post something better.
Although not a Sosua traveler I read this forum daily as there is always something new to learn. I have quite a few trips to rep dom under my belt but I still learn from newbies.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I'm a very silly guy,I love a good laugh.
The whole Colombia board is under quarentine. Its more flaming going on than info. I hope this board never gets to that point.
Newbies can breath new life into a board.
Do you ever wonder if their is a female mongers site? Nah,females are to sneaky to get caught like that. But what if,it would go like this;
I met this cheap ass guy that took me to the zoo and made me pay my own way. Then he bought some bbq ribs,potato salad and one presidente beer.He ate all the food and drank the one beer,then told me to strip for pics and sex.Then he called me a cab and asked for a propina to buy some more condoms and beer (cheap ).
(I know you can catch as well as pitch my brother )lmao.
[QUOTE=Coolie High]My first time learning about DR started when I was in college. Found this board and was mesmerized by the stories the orignator J***yDR was reporting about Sosua and became hooked ever since. Finally made my journey to Sosua in 2007. First nite was overwelm by the selection.So much so that I pick an ugly broad cus I couldn't make up my mind. No matter got her to the crib and smashed her in the pool. Good memories[/QUOTE]I ddnt know anything about Sosua until I made a few trips to Boca Chica and that got really boring after awhile and then I was on another board and met a guy name scott who owns a few condos in sosua, and when I was having problems with a chica in boca chica, he told me to come to sosua and I would never look at bc again. I have not been to bc since and don't plan to. I don't mind Santo Domingo but BC sucks. I don't see why pple waste their money there
Good post. I always learn something new from reading the posts here and I would like to see more members write posts.
Boycotting Classicos may be difficult for guys who go to Sosua, because it is one of the main places where chicas can be found in Sosua, at night. In my mind, the guy Armando, who owns Classicos, had something to do with the murder of a fellow American. If I ever entered Classicos again in the future and bought a beer there, I would be thinking to myself, that my money was going to a guy who is not nice (to put it mildly).
I can only speak for myself, but I know I will never stay at the Sosua Bay Hotel, while it is owned by Armando and I know I would never feel comfortable spending money in Classicos, with my money helping to support a guy like Armando.
There are some very nice and honest business owners in Sosua, those people should be rewarded with business.
I never met the American lawyer who was killed in Sosua. One of the things I can do is speak with my wallet and not support businesses that are owned by scoundrels and murderers.
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]As last I checked this is a discussion board. To say "one does not have a clue" or "they are wrong from A-Z", without trying to validate your point is pointless. Please feel free to expand on your views on this topic. The only problem will be if we get away from the Sosua topic others will complain. But a brief reflection of your feelings is appreciated.
Jaososua, this is Sosua information regarding the topic of"murdered attorney in Sosua", it is relevant. The sad part is, that if this guy was a normal 'JOE" it would'nt be a topic. But this guy was an attorney, Business man, well educated, well respected, and American. This will vibrate all the way to President Lionel. The message must be recieved that non Dominicans can not be murdered without justice.
The subject of sex in Sosua has not been discussed recently. But recent events require dialog. There are major recent developments that affect ALL mongerers in Sosua. To be honest, this board regarding sex and adventure info has been reduced to five guys(J, Bq, CJ, Ch, SP,). So if your not a regular information provider, don't feel free to make a cameo appearance to critize and run away. Stand tall, make your point, and respect other peoples opinions. Respectfully yours GoGo.[/QUOTE]
Fellas , I have been to Sosua in December and in April. What is the weather like at the end of October? Tropical storms?
[QUOTE=American Warrior]Fellas , I have been to Sosua in December and in April. What is the weather like at the end of October? Tropical storms?[/QUOTE]
Could well be, but unlikely to affect your trip adversely unless you are planning to collect wild flowers on the hillsides as well as fuck chicas.
[QUOTE=American Warrior]Fellas , I have been to Sosua in December and in April. What is the weather like at the end of October? Tropical storms?[/QUOTE]Within the last week there has been lots of rain in Dom Rep, some flooding and some deaths have occurred.
I vacationed in Sosua over ten times, different months of the year. Only one trip, did it it rain everyday and some streets (near the super super liquor store) had about two feet of water and were not passable for about a day. I don't remember what month it was when it rained everyday for 5 days.
October is a good month for prices, for travel to the Dom Rep, airline ticket prices are usually cheaper and hotel prices are usually cheaper in October. I have traveled in October in the past and had good weather in Dom Rep.
Even if it rains you can still have fun.
the youtube video is entitled: "la guerra de las discotecas en sosua" the video shows, i believe, the dominican owner of club x giving a speech at a public meeting, followed by some words from armando casciati.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cousrc3syok[/url]
[QUOTE=Charles Pooter]
Not surprising really as, despite having fought two major wars within the last hundred years, the two nations (with the Dutch) are racially, linguistically and culturally very close.
[/QUOTE]
Very true. Deep down, Hitler did not want to go to war with England as he considered them first cousins. Or some such equivalent.
(Once it was on of course, all that didn't mean squat.)
Schwmm
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo].....Do you ever wonder if their is a female mongers site? Nah,females are to sneaky to get caught like that. But what if,it would go like this;
I met this cheap ass guy that took me to the zoo and made me pay my own way. Then he bought some bbq ribs,potato salad and one presidente beer.He ate all the food and drank the one beer,then told me to strip for pics and sex.Then he called me a cab and asked for a propina to buy some more condoms and beer (cheap ).
(I know you can catch as well as pitch my brother )lmao.[/QUOTE]
LMAO, now don't go giving all my secrets away.
[quote=jaosousa]the youtube video is entitled: "la guerra de las discotecas en sosua" the video shows, i believe, the dominican owner of club x giving a speech at a public meeting, followed by some words from armando casciati.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cousrc3syok[/url][/quote]
lol, i think this armando guy is the same guy i sometimes see chasing around the female bartenders at merengue bar!
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]
I met this cheap ass guy that took me to the zoo and made me pay my own way. Then he bought some bbq ribs,potato salad and one presidente beer.He ate all the food and drank the one beer,then told me to strip for pics and sex.Then he called me a cab and asked for a propina to buy some more condoms and beer (cheap ).
(I know you can catch as well as pitch my brother )lmao.[/QUOTE]
Good one Gogo!
[QUOTE=Jaosousa]Good post. I always learn something new from reading the posts here and I would like to see more members write posts.
Boycotting Classicos may be difficult for guys who go to Sosua, because it is one of the main places where chicas can be found in Sosua, at night. In my mind, the guy Armando, who owns Classicos, had something to do with the murder of a fellow American. If I ever entered Classicos again in the future and bought a beer there, I would be thinking to myself, that my money was going to a guy who is not nice (to put it mildly).
I can only speak for myself, but I know I will never stay at the Sosua Bay Hotel, while it is owned by Armando and I know I would never feel comfortable spending money in Classicos, with my money helping to support a guy like Armando.
There are some very nice and honest business owners in Sosua, those people should be rewarded with business.
I never met the American lawyer who was killed in Sosua. One of the things I can do is speak with my wallet and not support businesses that are owned by scoundrels and murderers.[/QUOTE]Yea boycotting Classicos would be very hard to do especially if you are in sosua over 5 days. Its like tailgating to me. Yea tailgating at the football games my be cool for a few games but once in awhile you want to actually go into the games just to say you were there and to witness the atmosphere.
If I got to Sosua 5 days I have to at least go into classicos 2 or 3 days because I love women, liquor and music.
This armando fella, how has he lasted so long in DR. If he is the cause of numerous murders? Does he surround his self with 'mafioso' type pple 24/7? Is he mafia? If he is the root/cause of these murders then I imagine his days are numbered as well. Then again he may be a 'made man'. I am sure he has the police in sosua paid off. I don't remba seeing this fella when I was there. I need to call jihad and get the rundown.
[url]http://www.oregonlive.com/business/index.ssf/2010/06/dominicans_seize_guns_detain_t.html[/url]
[quote]as family and friends shared stories at art tarlow's memorial service friday afternoon in portland, police in the dominican republic awaited analysis of two guns recovered this week as part of the investigation into the lawyer's slaying.
tarlow, a prominent portland business and construction lawyer, was shot to death june 10 inside his winter home in sosua, a small town on the caribbean country's north coast. he was 68.
police have been investigating whether the death was connected to a legal battle waged by tarlow and a group of investors against a sosua businessman after a failed attempt to build a luxury casino. tarlow's group, mocarello, had recently won a $3.9 million lawsuit that would force the sale of a hotel that the investment group's documents said served as collateral.
sosua police executed a search warrant thursday and confirep001ed a pistol and a revolver, said eddie bueno disla, the lead investigator on tarlow's killing. bueno said he had detained two people -- the driver and security guard of sosua businessman armando casciati.
the investigator did not release the names of those detained or say where the search warrants were served.
casciati, the italian owner of the company that tarlow's group faced off with in court, has been told that he cannot leave the country, bueno said.
police sent the pistol and the revolver to the country's crime lab on wednesday to see if they matched with the gun used in the shooting.
"there's a lot of things i can't say over the phone," bueno said friday.
initial investors in the casino deal put in $1.8 million, with tarlow providing $100,000 in may 2004, according to mocarello documents. the $3.9 million was to cover the initial $1.8 million investment as well as damages, legal fees and a separate $750,000 lien on the property.
in an e-mail earlier this week, casciati told the oregonian that he believed mocarello's investors were all dominican and that a decision on the sale of the hotel remained in legal limbo.
"i never met mr. tarlow -- i did not even know of his existence," casciati wrote. "all the shareholders of mocarello are dominicans and i have no clue of other people having interests in this company."
-- laura gunderson[/quote]now if those guns match the one that killed tarlow then these guys are the dumbest killers in the world.
the plot thickens!
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]Yeah, I'm a very silly guy,I love a good laugh.
The whole Colombia board is under quarentine. Its more flaming going on than info. I hope this board never gets to that point.
Newbies can breath new life into a board.
Do you ever wonder if their is a female mongers site? Nah,females are to sneaky to get caught like that. But what if,it would go like this;
I met this cheap ass guy that took me to the zoo and made me pay my own way. Then he bought some bbq ribs,potato salad and one presidente beer.He ate all the food and drank the one beer,then told me to strip for pics and sex.Then he called me a cab and asked for a propina to buy some more condoms and beer (cheap ).
(I know you can catch as well as pitch my brother )lmao.[/QUOTE]That is funny shit, GOGO you don't forget a thing, roflmao.
Her next post would be something about her having to steal chocolates from the guy and the chocolates all melting inside her purse and how he only offered ham and cheese sandwiches to eat, with the decorative bird placed by the window staring down at them.
[QUOTE=SavePros321]Lol, I think this Armando guy is the same guy I sometimes see chasing around the female bartenders at Merengue bar![/QUOTE]He owns Merengue and Classicos. Some nights you can see him walking around merengue and classicos.
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]The subject of sex in Sosua has not been discussed recently. But recent events require dialog. There are major recent developments that affect ALL mongerers in Sosua. To be honest, this board regarding sex and adventure info has been reduced to five guys(J, Bq, CJ, Ch, SP,)[/QUOTE]Speaking of sex and adventure I just recently fucked a big girl. She was cute but still.......I gotta get back to Sosua soon so I can raise my level of quality broads that will serve me proper. I still smash fine broads in the states but when u ask them to swallow or take the ol porno shot to the face they look at u crazy. Viva Sosua! Viva ISG!
[QUOTE=Coolie High]Speaking of sex and adventure I just recently fucked a big girl. She was cute but still.......I gotta get back to Sosua soon so I can raise my level of quality broads that will serve me proper. I still smash fine broads in the states but when u ask them to swallow or take the ol porno shot to the face they look at u crazy. Viva Sosua! Viva ISG![/QUOTE]After what you sent me i would be counting pennies and pawning shit to get my ass back there.
[QUOTE=Jaosousa]He owns Merengue and Classicos. Some nights you can see him walking around merengue and classicos.[/QUOTE]
That's him then. In May I saw him casually sitting at Merengue bar around 3 or 4 in the afternoon on a Saturday while I was drinking there. A few minutes later he was flirting with one of the bartenders. He seemed like a guy that just keeps to himself. Didn't know he was/would be infamous though...
[QUOTE=SavePros321]This is one of the reasons why I only come to this board for information. Thank your for posting this and I hope everyone will pass the word. I personally have never been inside the place. Mainly because I never found reason to.[/QUOTE]best believe IF Classicos closes pple will shift to X Club-supply and demand. The gringos demand alcohol and pussy, Classicos and/or X Club supply the atmosphere (music, alcohol and bitches). It is what it is. The nightlife in sosua will go on and on and on.
I see that the German's in Sosua is a very popular topic on ISG. I am an american and lived amongst the Germans for about a year and a half. Like with all nationalities there are good ones and bad ones. Some of my good friends in Sosua were germans and was introduced to numerous of their german friends. I would go during lunch time to my friend's german restaurant for german lessons and all of the german's there would pitch in.
Of course germans would gravitate towards other germans when it comes down to food, drinks, and conversation. Yes, many of them speak english but they like their comfort zone. Also, why would an expat befriend a tourist? Who's only there for a couple of days.
I seriously doubt any tourist would get dirty looks if they go to a german restaurant and order a nice plate of curry wurtz mit brotchen, pommes frites and wash it down with a tall glass of Weissbier, "PROST!!" This is my humble opinion.
There is some drug kingpin who was based out of Santo Domingo. He had several Dominicans killed. The police caught some of the hired killers. Supposedly the killers were paid $30k US.
The American lawyer who was killed in Sosua, had invested $100k US in the casino deal. Appears some of his partners in the investment were Dominican. If you hire someone to kill the American lawyer, probably means that the $100k he invested will go to someone else or not have to get paid.
I am sure Armando has his connections in the Dom Rep and I am sure he has enemies there are well. I would bet, lots of deals are being made now behind closed doors, regarding bribes and payoffs.
Somebody thought they could make money by having the American killed, who those persons are, is the question. To me it involves something with the new casino that is owned by Armando.
[QUOTE=Chief Justice]Yea boycotting Classicos would be very hard to do especially if you are in sosua over 5 days. Its like tailgating to me. Yea tailgating at the football games my be cool for a few games but once in awhile you want to actually go into the games just to say you were there and to witness the atmosphere.
If I got to Sosua 5 days I have to at least go into classicos 2 or 3 days because I love women, liquor and music.
This armando fella, how has he lasted so long in DR. If he is the cause of numerous murders? Does he surround his self with 'mafioso' type pple 24/7? Is he mafia? If he is the root/cause of these murders then I imagine his days are numbered as well. Then again he may be a 'made man'. I am sure he has the police in sosua paid off. I don't remba seeing this fella when I was there. I need to call jihad and get the rundown.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jaosousa]That is funny shit, GOGO you don't forget a thing, roflmao.
Her next post would be something about her having to steal chocolates from the guy and the chocolates all melting inside her purse and how he only offered ham and cheese sandwiches to eat, with the decorative bird placed by the window staring down at them.[/QUOTE]
Now, now, now.........you ain't heard it all. So after the chica leaves she has left some of the sandwich behind. It was one of them long submarine roll type hotel room made sandwiches. Now another chica is coming over later on that night and Mr. Cheapo knows she likes to eat. What to do? Wipe off the styrofoam containter with a towel. Cut the ends of the sandwich with the teeth marks off. Neatly re-arrange the sandwich in the now clean container and presto........ a meal awaits Ms. Chubby.
What I have learned the hard way is what "we" think is nice for the chicas is way, way more than what they are used to. In most cases they don't really know how to appreciate the finer things in life. Keep it simple, keep her happy.
Always remember, every peso saved is a peso to put towards another flight ticket.
[QUOTE=Chief Justice][url]http://www.oregonlive.com/business/index.ssf/2010/06/dominicans_seize_guns_detain_t.html[/url]
Now if those guns match the one that killed tarlow then these guys are the dumbest killers in the world.
THE PLOT THICKENS![/QUOTE]
There are several "legal disputes" heading to mafia like endings as people are juggling for position. I got a bottle of crown black that it is the gun.
Im sorry the gentleman got his ass wooped by security; however, YOU NEVER ORDER WITHOUT KNOWING THE PRICE OR THAT YOU HAVE FUNDS TO COVER EVEN THE LARGEST SCREW THE TOURIST BILLS. Where I am from not only would yo have gotten your ass wooped but you would spend a night in jail until the tab is paid. Try that in Vegas, Atlantic City or Miami and it would have been a hell of a lot worse. They were pulling your leg, they wont touch him. The owners of the bars would never get any security if the dont back the people that are trying to protect their assets. If it was a forien owned spot, he definitly would not call for his ass to be beat.
Cardinal rule, ladies drinks are always astronomical. Everytime you get into premium brands in DR the price skyrockets. 1800 is high but not astronomical. That $50 for three shots...
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]For reasons like this no matter where I am I always ask for a menu before I start ordering or letting someone who is with me order. About 7 years ago in Nice, France me and 2 wingmen went into a cabaret. The first thing I did was ask for a menu. The first thing they did was order cocktails. Before I could open the menu good their drinks had arrived. 40 euro each. The cheapest thing in the menu was water at 35 euro.
Another friend was in Cancun and got stuck with the chica drinks the same way. He said it looked like a pitcher of Kool-Aid. He had to come off US$100 for it. He said he didn't have the money. The bouncer kindly walked him to the closest ATM.[/QUOTE]
This is a common scam in Beijing. Some girls will talk to you saying they want to learn english. They will then ask you go have a drink with them. Any punter will think if the girl drinks it will be easy to get into her pants. Many a guys have fallen for it paying upeards of $100 US dollars for a bottle of cheap wine.
I knew about the scam on one of the boards. When I was in Beijing I played along with the girl till the entrance to the bar, then pretended to look at my phone messages and said I need to go quickly to meet a friend. I did get her phone number and willingly gave mine.
She texted me and I told her about the scam she was aout to pull and asked if she would accompany me for a tour of Beijing and I will give her some money in instead of being scammed. After some hesitation she agreed and we had a great couple of days together. Ofcourse I did take care of her.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]For reasons like this no matter where I am I always ask for a menu before I start ordering or letting someone who is with me order. About 7 years ago in Nice, France me and 2 wingmen went into a cabaret. The first thing I did was ask for a menu. The first thing they did was order cocktails. Before I could open the menu good their drinks had arrived. 40 euro each. The cheapest thing in the menu was water at 35 euro.
Another friend was in Cancun and got stuck with the chica drinks the same way. He said it looked like a pitcher of Kool-Aid. He had to come off US$100 for it. He said he didn't have the money. The bouncer kindly walked him to the closest ATM.[/QUOTE]
Yeh...variants of this scam are all over the world. Kinda funny how three of us here read the same post and immediately thought of the same scam. :-)
My variant is France and Germany. Always stay out of places that remind you of an American type strip club. You walk in, sit down, a hot girl comes and sits down next to you and asks you to buy her a drink. A bottle of champagne comes with a $300 price tag while the bouncer eyes you for a reaction.
A few of the boys warned me of this beforehand so I knew better. If you want to get laid, go to brothel and don't mess around.
[QUOTE=Chief Justice][url]http://www.oregonlive.com/business/index.ssf/2010/06/dominicans_seize_guns_detain_t.html[/url]
Now if those guns match the one that killed tarlow then these guys are the dumbest killers in the world.
THE PLOT THICKENS![/QUOTE]I wasn't going to weigh in on this subject. But I decided to give my perspective, and leave it alone after this.
If you think Armando did it your wrong, he is being set up. And for the record I've seen him many times and he gives off a creepy feeling.
Motive; Who stands to gain or has reason.
(1)Not Armando, the judgement had been passed. Also why kill someone when you would be the prime suspect. Then conviently your driver has possibly the same gun in the car DAYS later. Wouldn't Armando have it done when he is out of the country and cover his tracks. Plus he said he never met Art.
(2)Who gains: The Dominican partners. They have the judgement. Armondo becomes a prime suspect. Also at stake are an oceanside resort, popular club and other investments in the Dr, that Dominican authorities might seize. Plus they move Art out as the front man with his shares.
As the new owners(dominicans) of the ocean front resort and property, along with the most popular club in Sosua, they are back in control. Armondo is through in Sosua even if he beats the charge. His name is mud, future investors will pass, and he will always be linked to a murder. He will have to sell at a loss just to move on.
But the main thing is bringing the responsible parties to trial, but in the Dominican Republic what you see might not be the truth.
How is a Cuba Libre the same price as a Sprite? Both of them are 100 pesos in Classicos!
[QUOTE=Bravo]How is a Cuba Libre the same price as a Sprite? Both of them are 100 pesos in Classicos![/QUOTE]I thought a cuba libre was rum and coke.
[QUOTE=Bq Ribs] What I have learned the hard way is what "we" think is nice for the chicas is way, way more than what they are used to. Keep it simple, keep her happy.
Always remember, every peso saved is a peso to put towards another flight ticket.[/QUOTE]True. Part of what makes Dom Rep a fun place is that you don't need to be a millionaire driving a Bentley, to have a beautiful chica on your arm. Many DR chicas, it does not take much to make them happy. Unlike some spoiled, high maintenance women here in the States.
[QUOTE=Jaosousa]I thought a cuba libre was rum and coke.[/QUOTE]It is.
Thats why I don't understand how they can be the same price.
Well don't forget about the Greeks!
LOL
[QUOTE=Jaosousa]When I traveled through Europe there were stereotypes about every country, and even within countries there were stereotypes. When I was in my Milan, the Italians in Milan, would say the southern part of the country including Rome was corrupt. When I was in Rome, Italians in Rome would say people in Naples were thieves (the best chicas with the worst brothers, as some of my Roman friends would say about Naples).
The British had the get drunk and get rowdy stereotype. Germans were seen as being cold.
French people as being snooty, which I kind of agree with. I hung out with people from just about every country in Europe, except people from France. The French people I came across were never very friendly to me. I met people from many European countries and they would invite me to stay in their homes, even though they had just met me (as well as the University chicas).[/QUOTE]
Because of all the great information provided by this board I had a great vacation in Sosua. I cannot thank you guys enough. As promised here is my report.
I returned home last week from my second trip to Sosua. Flew Continental non-stop from EWR to POP and stayed at the New Garden again. The POP immigration officer held up a ‘tips’ sign after processing my paper work. Right, next time hold up the sign before stamping the paper work, stupid. Just my luck the custom agent decided to check my bags. But he chose the dive bag and decided it was not worth going through. He did not ask for a tip. The cab from the NG was waiting for me as I exited the terminal. The NG is in the process of renovating rooms and just in time. The ceiling panel in my bathroom fell down and the door to the refrigerator cabinet was falling off. The pool could also use a face lift. But the new restaurant is great and the NG in my opinion is still the place to stay and play. The NG was dead on Sunday (no Chicas at all) because the owner was having a family party. The rest of the week started out slow but by Wednesday the place was hopping. I had a good time the first trip but had a better time this trip. An understanding of how the game is played gave me more confidence and a better game plan.
Basic Routine:
I spent the afternoons diving, arriving back at the NG around 5pm. After a quick shower and a beer I would select a house girl for a ST session followed by a nap and them a late dinner. By 11pm I would be out looking for a TLN. I was very lucky this trip. My selections were drama free and provided agreed upon services which ranged from acceptable to excellent. Maybe my success was the result of staying out of Classicos and off the strip as much as possible.
I also found out most of the chicas love toys. My small vibrating dildo and a magic wand were very popular. The key is to keep the size of the toys reasonable so they are not intimidating and to introduce them slowly.
My favorite routine was to get the chica comfortable (naked) in one of my t-shirts and enjoy a few drinks/beers on the balcony while listing to music. From there it was to the shower then to bed for round one. Followed a trip to the strip for some food. After a nice snack on the balcony on to round two then some sweet dreams. Often a bonus round would be delivered in the morning.
New Garden Girls
Had a NG chica most afternoons/early evenings. I don’t remember most of their names or what we actually did but they must have provided acceptable service because I don’t remember getting pissed at any of them.
Vicky, I do remember and had two sessions with her. She was a nice MILF who spoke some English and gave a great BBBJCIM. She liked her pussy and boobs played with but was ticklish when stroked anywhere else. She enjoyed the magic wand but had to have control of it. She sucked me as she use the wand on herself. The more excited she got the better job she did.
I spent a lot of time with Jessica last year & decide to give her a try again. Jessica is all business and has all kinds of ‘up sells’ to extract extra pesos out of you. This time while we were in the middle of a nice fuck when she asked if I want her ass and what I’m was willing to pay for it. Not a good time to open up negotiations. I like anal but she asked for 3,000 and I bet by the time we were done it would have cost me more so I took a pass. I did not even counter offer. Jessica did try her best but could not get the job done. We even used the dildo in my ass while she blew me. Eventually I paid her to leave.
Margareta
Information from this board indicated that Bar Central was a popular hangout for Haitian chicas. I always wanted to try one so I stopped in Monday night. Cool bar run by a German with great rock and roll videos playing and 80 pesos beers. Before I had a chance to scope out a Haitian, Margareta a cute Dominican was all over me. Her English was as good and my Spanish, none existent but she was sweet, playful and very determined to get me interested. She succeeded & I spent 4 nights with her. Margareta is new to the business (did not know what she was doing but took instruction well), is illiterate (could use the translator), needs the money (poorly dressed, several kids and a ring on her left hand fourth finger), not great at giving head but loves to fuck and enjoys spending time away from her shitty life. By the time she took care of family business and got to Sosua she was tired and hungry but she still treated me like a king. What she like at night was time to relax, some food, a few quick climaxes and sleep. But in the morning this girl could not give or get enough sex. She was a real morning person.
The first night Margareta was sitting on the bed while I looked for some music on the TV. When I sat down and leaned back against her she noticed the black heads on my back. The next thing I know she had me laying on my stomach while she picked at my back. When I had enough a quick shower was in order before the fun began. I had to take the lead but by the time I kissed and stroked my way down to her ‘Y’ she was very wet and only required a little tongue action to reach the first ‘O’. Margareta like the rest of the girls I meet loved oral sex and were very responsive. Anyway I decided it would be a good time to introduce the magic wand. So I grabbed it off the night table turned it on low & touched her chest just above the breasts. Big mistake. Margareta flew off the bed. She had no idea what happen and started to panic. It took quite awhile to claim her down & get her back on the bed. This time I showed her the wand and let her examine it. I turned it on and ran it up and down my arm to show her it did not hurt. Then I gently touch the back of her hand with it. She was hesitant at first but I slowly moved it up her arm and across her chest. By the time I reached the boobs she was hooked. Between my tongue, fingers and the wand she came many times. She was embarrassed each time she came and gave me a ‘wow’ as she hid her face in her hands or pillow. But she would soon spread her legs for more. The problem was my timing. By the time I was ready this girl was done. And I mean DONE. She crawled up into a ball and basically passed out. Lesson learned: ‘get yours first’. About 7:30am the next morning a freshly showered Margareta is waking me up and wants to play. While we were playing she answered her phone several times. I believe she did not expect to stay until late morning and had not arranged for proper child care. But she did not leaving until we both got off.
The next night I’m headed to the strip when a chica comes up & starts hitting me. I pushed her away, said I’m meeting my amigos and kept walking. By the time I rounded the corner she is back on me this time asking ‘no remember?, no remember?’. I had no clue who she was until I look down and recognized the blouse. It was Margareta in the same blouse with the big gold bars across the front she had on the prior night. What changed was her hair. She went from long curls with brown high lights to straight black hair. Back at the NG she strips down, puts on the t-sheet and starts empting the contents of her large hand bag. It was obvious that she was prepared to spend the night & would not be in any hurry to leave in the morning. She even brought a hair net to sleep in. While we were having drinks on the baloney Margareta started to massage my feet & saw the huge broken blister on the ball of my right foot. The next thing I knew she was cleaning it out and wanted scissors to cut way the dead skin. The girl was gentle and did a good job. When she was done off to the shower we went and then to bed for fun time. This time I made sure I got off before grabbing the magic wand. When we were done Margareta indicated she was hungry and wanted to go out for food. At 2:30am I did not think it was possible but was willing to give it a go. The restaurants were closed but she got us a couple of nice chicken sandwiches from a street vendor. We ate our meal on the balcony then played with the toys one more time before going to sleep. And I was right Margareta was in no hurry to leave in the morning. She would not stay for breakfast but it was after 10am when she left.
I don’t recall how I hooked up with Margareta for the third time but she somehow found me. We were both exhausted so the night consisted of a drink on the balcony and sleep. But the next morning she was ready to go again and again.
On Friday night the NG had a BBQ. 500 pesos for guest, 250 for accompanied chicas and it was good. The place was pack with chicas looking for a free meal and it would have been a lot of fun if the rain held off. When I got in line there was this cute chica with huge boobs standing by the corner of the bar trying to stay dry and looking miserable. I felt sorry for the girl & when I asked if she would like dinner her personality light right up. We joined a guy from NYC and his girl for a pleasant dinner. Shortly after 10pm in strolls Margareta. When she saw the other chica I could not decide if she was going to cry or go ballistic. She went on about meeting at 10pm and the other chica. I actually did not realize it was past 10 and played dumb. I offer her a seat between me and the guy from NYC. She quickly dragged the chair around me and sat between me and the other chica. It was quite a show with Margareta pissed at me but not wanting to push too hard and the other chica trying to protect her investment. After a bit I decided to defuse the situation and took Margareta to Bar Central. The videos were not playing and Margareta wanted something to eat so we went to a small Italian restaurant on the strip where her friend worked. I was not hungry but she had a nice bowel of pasta with meat sauce for 250 pesos. Once she was feed and watered all was well and back to the room we went for another incredible night and morning.
I would have kept Margareta for a fifth night but things got too personal. She started talking about the cost of milk and showed me how she needed new shoes. I did not want to hear about her problems so it was time for her to go.
La Passions
La Passions is a great bar and the ladies are top notch. Don’t think you could go wrong with any of the La Passion girls. You pay a premium but get a drama free, first class lady who will keep her end of the deal.
The first night I introduced myself to Peter & he introduced me to the bar manager. Don’t remember the manager’s name but she was great. Really looked after the interest of the bar, girls and customers. She was always around making sure everyone was happy and getting a fair deal. I asked her to set me up with a lady who spoke English. So she brings over Anabel. After a bit of flirting Anabel shows me the menu. When I pointed to the take out option she was all smiles. A nice easy night laid ahead for her. After she changed we sat at the bar and chatted with some of the girls. There was no hurry Anabel was off duty and I was enjoying the attention.
Back at the NG Anabel was great. BBBJ, DFKing, full service in any position and she happily took a pounding. Unfortunately she does not like toys but was very responsive to DATY and inserted fingers. In the morning she was a bit reluctant to put out but an offer of breakfast quickly changed her attitude.
A couple of nights later I want back to La Passions looking for Anabel. She was not working but the bar manager offered to call her. Did not sound like a good idea so I asked her to introduce me to someone else who spoke English. Samira was the lady she brought over. Samira was charming. Unfortunately timing was not in our favor. I wanted the 2,500 midnight take out price and but she was going off duty before midnight. So she introduced me to Kimberly. Kimberly was a tall stunner, universality educated, spoke English and was new to the business. Back at the NG she was great. She even grabbed the toys off the night stand and wanted to know how to use them. They were such a big hit she wanted to keep them. By morning I had had enough so we had a late breakfast and said our good-byes.
My last night in Sosua I went back to La Passions. Before I could get the attention of the bar manager Emely came by to say hello. Emely spoke no English but was cute and playful. Things were going good when Anabel appeared. Now I had a hard decision to make. Luckily Emely saw I was favoring Anabel and gracefully disappeared. Back at the new NG I followed my usual routine, got comfortable, relaxed with drinks on the balcony, showered and the games began. We finished round one with me standing and Anabel in the doggie position at the edge of the bed. Anabel rode me long and hard with her ass like only a dancer could. When we were done I asked if she was hungry which of course she was. So off to the strip we went for food. After a nice meal on the balcony round two consisted of an oral fest. I had nothing left in the morning so we had breakfast, said our good-bys and I packed for the trip to the airport.
Food
I ate a late breakfast every morning at the NG and skipped lunch. I had over priced ribs at Rocky’s one night and sampled the BBQ at the NG. I also tried the Scotch 'N' Sirloin Restaurant at the Terra Linda hotel. It was ok put pricy. The rest of the week I ate at the Casa Valeria. For 600 pesos I got an excellent dinner and drink served in a comfortable and relaxed environment. A couple of locals recommended the restaurant at the Hotel Orchidee. Maybe I’ll try it next time but the entrance does not look very appealing.
I also had several good late night snacks from the street vendors. The best way to deal with the vendors is to let your chica chose the vendor. Tell her to order whatever she wants but order two. Give her a couple hundred pesos and stand back. She’ll return with a great cheap snack.
Money:
The exchange shop around the corner from the Happy Bar on Duarte was giving 36.5 pesos to the dollar. Nice clean secure place. The street guys were giving 36 pesos’ to the dollar.
Beach:
After checking into the NG Sunday afternoon & running a few errands I headed to the beach. After walking up and down looking for all the places I read about I spent the rest of the afternoon at the Scandinavian beach bar nursing a few beers while watching the world past by. This was my first and only venture to the beach.
Diving:
I wanted to use Scuba Elite again this year but when I walk by on the way to the beach on Sunday they were closed. Monday afternoon I stopped by with my gear but Kerri was taking her son to the airport and was not running a trip. So I walk down the street and tried Northern Coast Diving. Dove two days with them and it was a disaster. They are a large commercial operation who mixed snorkelers, student divers and divers of mixed experience all on the same boat. I spent more time floating on the surface them I did on the bottom. It took forever to get everyone in and down and when the first newbie blew through their air the whole group had to surface. I went back to Scuba Elite the third day. Kerri runs a great boutique shop. Her male partner and dive master moved on so she now is a one women shop but appreciates the business and is willing to work with you. I spent the rest of the week diving with Kerri and a pleasant guy from an all inclusive. The diving is not world class but you do not go to the DR for the diving. It is just pleasant way to spend an afternoon. This year I did not get up for the morning dives.
Motos’
I used the motos’ for the first time this year. They are a great way to get around town. I would just hop on and tell the driver where I wanted to go. When I got off I would hand the driver 50 pesos, say gracias and walk way. I only had a minor issue once and I knew I was going to have a problem before getting on. On the way back from La Passion this guy pulls up on more of a sport bike then a moto. He was also wearing a leather jacket worth 350-400 us. When we reach the NG I handed him and Anabel's driver 50 pesos each. My driver started going on about wanting 100. I just said ‘no, 50’, took Anabel's hand and walk into the NG. Off course having the NG security guard standing at the curb probably help defuse the situation.
Phone
I brought a phone from the Claro shop on Pedro Clisante just beyond Dr. Rosen. The phone with a 100 peso card cost 495 pesos. I purchased an additional 500 peso card and called the States each night & made several local calls. The waitresses at the Casa Valeria help me set it up so the menus and recordings were in English. The phone had voice mail but I never used it so I don’t know if it actually worked. It was a good investment.
Pharmaceutical Help
Last year I tried the DR version of Viagra and had a reaction so decided to use only the prescription versions this year. I use Viagra at home but decided to try Cialis. I took 10mg each morning and I was good to go all day and all night. It got me hard at the appropriate times but did not leave me with a ragging hard on when to deed was done like Viagra does.
Street Kids & Vendors
There were a lot more Haitian street kids this year. They are a sad lot; truly hungry, thirsty and real desperate. Problem is they are also violent. So far the violence has been amongst themselves but sooner or later it will expand. There were also lots of old Haitian women/men walking around selling all kinds of stuff from hard boiled eggs to CDs. They were not aggressive. I just replied no gracias to their sales pitch and kept walking.
Tipping
I left the maid $5 each morning and a small bag of chocolates. It was money well spent. She could not do enough for me. My room was made up whenever I wanted, she left a pile of towels each day and I had at least a dozen & half bars of unused soap by the end of the week.
I also tipped the security guard $5 every couple of nights to watch my back. I did not need his help this year but it was good to knew he was round and knew me. He greeted me every night at the gate, would keep an eye on my room as he patrol & was at my side when I had the minor issue with the last moto guy. I also found him to be a source for ice. I like to drink scotch on the rocks but was drinking it ‘neat’ for lack of ice early in the week. One hot night while sitting on the balcony with my chica I notice the guard going to the ice box & filling up a pitcher so he would have cold water to drink. Down stairs I went with my translator & typed in ‘ice’. He shook his head ‘yes’, walked away and came back with a bag of ice for me. I was set for the rest of the week. I did have a funny situation with him one night. I tried to explain that I was going to dinner next door and if Margareta came looking for me have her wait or send her next door. After going back and forth I finally got a smile of understanding and he starts to run upstairs. I thinking ‘shit, Margareta is with someone and he is going pull her out of the room resulting in some very unhappy campers’. When I see him coming back down the stairs I start laughing my ass off. He was carrying an arm full of towels. How he interpreted me looking for Margareta for waiting towels is beyond me but he was definitely trying to accommodate me.
Chica Prices
There were guys talking about paying 500 pesos for BJs and no more than 1,000-1,500 for TLN. Then they would start telling horror stories about the chicas, who would leave early, not provide the services promised, try to up sell, stole things or just went crazy. I wanted drama free sessions with pleasant and playful chicas and was willing to pay a premium for it. I gave the NG girls 1200 to 1500 for ST, Margareta 2000 per night, and the La Passion girls 2500 to 3500 with a 500 tip. I enjoyed their services & had no problems with any of them. When the girls went into the bathroom to refreshing up I would leave the money and a small box of chocolates by their belongings. I also had a traveling toothbrush/toothpaste for each girl. Mouth wash, cups and plenty of clean towels were also available. If the chica was hungry we went to the strip for food after round one. While we ate our meal on the balcony I recharged. By the time we finished the chica was happy and we were both ready to go again. I treated the girls right and they treated me right.
I did have a funny misunderstanding with one NG chic. I offered 1,000 pesos for ST but she wanted 1500. It was getting dark and without my glasses I could not see well. I thought I had a 1,000 note, a couple of 100 notes and a couple of us dollars in my pocket. I showed her the money and indicated that was all I had. Well, see looked at the money, said something in Spanish and walked away. I could not understand why she would not take the 1200 for a quickie. When I got back to the room and put my glasses on I found out why she did not accept the offer. I did not have a 1000 note, just three 100 notes. Poor girl must have thought I was a real cheap bastard.
Whoever spends the last night with me gets the ‘spoils’ in the morning. Anabel was the lucky girl this year. I gave her the extra condoms, lub, baby oil, body cream, tooth brushes/paste, chocolates, soap, mouthwash, & cigarettes which she appreciated. I kept the toys.
Budget:
Airfare: frequent flyer miles + $97 tax
Airport parking: 8days $75
POP Taxi: $20+$5 tip @ 2 $50
Lodging : 7 nights @ $62 $434
Food: 700 pesos a day $140
Chicas: 4000 pesos per day $800
Diving: $70 per day for 6 days $420
Tips: maid, security guard, etc $70
Phone: $30
Misc: drinks, motos’, water, etc $150
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total $2,266
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(Be gentle guys, lol)
I am supposed to bring an "lindo" unlocked phone upon the return trip but i dont have any idea on what I should be looking for. Anyone have any suggestions for one that will work very well in the Dominican Republic?
She does not want a Blackberry (wasn't going to buy one to begin with) and am trying to explain to her that there is no sense in getting her an unlocked iPhone because half of the stuff on it will not work there (I know because have an iPhone) and the other half she won't know what to do with either. Without the data plan the phone is utterly useless.
Any help is most appreciated!
[QUOTE=SavePros321](Be gentle guys, lol)
I am supposed to bring an "lindo" unlocked phone upon the return trip but i dont have any idea on what I should be looking for. Anyone have any suggestions for one that will work very well in the Dominican Republic?
She does not want a Blackberry (wasn't going to buy one to begin with) and am trying to explain to her that there is no sense in getting her an unlocked iPhone because half of the stuff on it will not work there (I know because have an iPhone) and the other half she won't know what to do with either. Without the data plan the phone is utterly useless.
Any help is most appreciated![/QUOTE]I wrote a report about the i9(fake iphone Google it ).I puchased it at one of those electronic trade shows for 70usd.
It has all the gadgets without the internet.But I wouldn't do it.Family or Dominican dudes will eventually steal it.
Its a cut throat world when these girls pop up with something nice.
[QUOTE=SavePros321](Be gentle guys, lol)
I am supposed to bring an "lindo" unlocked phone upon the return trip but i dont have any idea on what I should be looking for. Anyone have any suggestions for one that will work very well in the Dominican Republic?
She does not want a Blackberry (wasn't going to buy one to begin with) and am trying to explain to her that there is no sense in getting her an unlocked iPhone because half of the stuff on it will not work there (I know because have an iPhone) and the other half she won't know what to do with either. Without the data plan the phone is utterly useless.
Any help is most appreciated![/QUOTE]
MY Iphone and HTC HD2 functioned exactly as did in the states. The only issue I had was when I put my Claro sim in. The American Versions are programmed differently. It disabled my GPS and Data. Only came back when I put my american sim back in. I bought an DR Iphone and put the sim in and everything worked. The USA Version is not the same phone. However, the DR Iphone worked with the USA sim. Really got to ensure the ROM is truly unlocked. Higher probability with foreign versions..
[QUOTE=Alex Deuce]MY Iphone and HTC HD2 functioned exactly as did in the states. The only issue I had was when I put my Claro sim in. The American Versions are programmed differently. It disabled my GPS and Data. Only came back when I put my american sim back in. I bought an DR Iphone and put the sim in and everything worked. The USA Version is not the same phone. However, the DR Iphone worked with the USA sim. Really got to ensure the ROM is truly unlocked. Higher probability with foreign versions..[/QUOTE]
Don't take them that shit, they REALLY DON'T DESERVE IT. Here are a couple of links to sites where I buy $50 IPhone clones. You can get about any clone you want, and let them complain if it doesn't suit. They can't use those HTC's and IPhones to capacity down there, and it's a lot easier to just hand them this with a small mini SD of bachata stuck in there and tell them to shut the fuck up and listen to their music.
[url]http://gizmoheart.com/index.php?p=catalog&parent=12&pg=1[/url]
[url]http://www.sourcinggate.com/[/url]
[QUOTE=Jaosousa]True. Part of what makes Dom Rep a fun place is that you don't need to be a millionaire driving a Bentley, to have a beautiful chica on your arm. [/QUOTE]
The problem is that too many guys who come from the states want to give the impression that they are millionaires and drive Bentleys.
[QUOTE=Alex Deuce]MY Iphone and HTC HD2 functioned exactly as did in the states. The only issue I had was when I put my Claro sim in. The American Versions are programmed differently. It disabled my GPS and Data. Only came back when I put my american sim back in. I bought an DR Iphone and put the sim in and everything worked. The USA Version is not the same phone. However, the DR Iphone worked with the USA sim. Really got to ensure the ROM is truly unlocked. Higher probability with foreign versions..[/QUOTE]
I just had my Iphone unlocked 4-5 days ago and EVERYTHING works properly. Just returned from SD today and used the GPS to return to POP, no problem. I think what you said regarding having it properly unlocked is key.
[QUOTE=Bobsthrobbinknob]Don't take them that shit, they REALLY DON'T DESERVE IT. Here are a couple of links to sites where I buy $50 IPhone clones. You can get about any clone you want, and let them complain if it doesn't suit. They can't use those HTC's and IPhones to capacity down there, and it's a lot easier to just hand them this with a small mini SD of bachata stuck in there and tell them to shut the fuck up and listen to their music.
[url]http://gizmoheart.com/index.php?p=catalog&parent=12&pg=1[/url]
[url]http://www.sourcinggate.com/[/url][/QUOTE]
Muchas gracias! Those iPhone knock-offs are exactly what I was looking for. I would always see chicas with them while there but never knew the name of them. Glad to see they are only $50, lol!
[QUOTE=Greek Niko]Well don't forget about the Greeks!
LOL[/QUOTE]
The Greeks are the heros of sex! Otherwise, we wouldn't here those sweet words, "Papi, mi culo es tuyo!"
My Greek friends father was from a small village in Crete. He told me, "If you don't smack a woman once in a while, and fuck her in the ass, she'll never behave!" hahaha
Well, I'm not sure if I agree with the smack part, but the ass part works for me!
Once you start down that slippery slope, of having the chicas dictate what gifts they want, it usually never stops. On your next trip she will ask for a laptop.
I had one chica who wanted a motorola razor cell phone, years ago, I bought her a prepaid one at walmart for around $80 dollars. I stopped seeing that chica.
My last trip I gave a chica a $20 watch I bought at Walmart and she was very happy. A few years ago I gave another chica a $20 Samsung cell phone, she still has the phone and uses it and I still see that chica.
I like to give gifts, but I like to give gifts on my terms. When chicas start dictating to me, that they want this model or that model of phone, it is a red flag. To me, I don't care how my cell phone looks, I am happy with a $20 Samsung phone.
For many chicas in DR, a cell phone is like a fashion accessory, like a louis vuitton bag (to me they look nothing special and slightly ugly). It is a just a status symbol.
I doubt any of their Dominican or Haitian boyfriends give them any gifts. Some chicas could easily give whatever gifts they get, to their Dominican or Haitian boyfriends.
It is nice to be generous with a person you like, but, be careful, some chicas will use and abuse a guy just as well as some guys use chicas.
It is your money (I don't like anyone telling me how to spend my money), giving her a $50 or $100 or more, phone may make economic sense, the chica might be very happy with the gift and stay with you for three or more days. So you might be saving money in the long run, rather than if you went out and paid different chicas to be with you for three or more days. Some chicas will factor in that you gave them a nice gift, but some chicas will still ask for money, even if you gave them a nice gift.
If the chica is hardcore in her demands for a particular expensive phone, then it might be best to walk away from her. There are plenty of non-high-maintenance chicas in DR, no need to have to have a greedy DR chica by your side.
These are just my two pesos, you are a big boy, you know what is right for you.
[QUOTE=SavePros321](Be gentle guys, lol)
I am supposed to bring an "lindo" unlocked phone upon the return trip but i dont have any idea on what I should be looking for. Anyone have any suggestions for one that will work very well in the Dominican Republic?
She does not want a Blackberry (wasn't going to buy one to begin with) and am trying to explain to her that there is no sense in getting her an unlocked iPhone because half of the stuff on it will not work there (I know because have an iPhone) and the other half she won't know what to do with either. Without the data plan the phone is utterly useless.
Any help is most appreciated![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=La Isla]The Greeks are the heros of sex! Otherwise, we wouldn't here those sweet words, "Papi, mi culo es tuyo!"
My Greek friends father was from a small village in Crete. He told me, "If you don't smack a woman once in a while, and fuck her in the ass, she'll never behave!" hahaha
Well, I'm not sure if I agree with the smack part, but the ass part works for me![/QUOTE]There are a few funny Dominican songs that are about anal sex. Herculito by Aguakate is one, the guy sings about his two sons, one is named herculito, the way the song is song, lots of double meanings, "mami, dame culito" (give me ass) is the way: "dame herculito" sounds.
The other song is vulgar and called Dominicano Asficcio or something like that. The guy calls his chica on the phone asking for anal sex and tells her to make sure she cleans her ass good, because the last time it had the smell of brakes from the car.
Greece is a fun place to travel to, lots of sex on those islands.
[QUOTE=SavePros321]Muchas gracias! Those iPhone knock-offs are exactly what I was looking for. I would always see chicas with them while there but never knew the name of them. Glad to see they are only $50, lol![/QUOTE]You can also get some phones here for decent prices:
[url]http://www.ubid.com/electronics/cell-phones/?ellftlnk=1[/url]
[QUOTE=Jaosousa]Once you start down that slippery slope, of having the chicas dictate what gifts they want, it usually never stops. On your next trip she will ask for a laptop.
I had one chica who wanted a motorola razor cell phone, years ago, I bought her a prepaid one at walmart for around $80 dollars. I stopped seeing that chica.
My last trip I gave a chica a $20 watch I bought at Walmart and she was very happy. A few years ago I gave another chica a $20 Samsung cell phone, she still has the phone and uses it and I still see that chica.
I like to give gifts, but I like to give gifts on my terms. When chicas start dictating to me, that they want this model or that model of phone, it is a red flag. To me, I don't care how my cell phone looks, I am happy with a $20 Samsung phone.
For many chicas in DR, a cell phone is like a fashion accessory, like a louis vuitton bag (to me they look nothing special and slightly ugly). It is a just a status symbol.
I doubt any of their Dominican or Haitian boyfriends give them any gifts. Some chicas could easily give whatever gifts they get, to their Dominican or Haitian boyfriends.
It is nice to be generous with a person you like, but, be careful, some chicas will use and abuse a guy just as well as some guys use chicas.
It is your money (I don't like anyone telling me how to spend my money), giving her a $50 or $100 or more, phone may make economic sense, the chica might be very happy with the gift and stay with you for three or more days. So you might be saving money in the long run, rather than if you went out and paid different chicas to be with you for three or more days. Some chicas will factor in that you gave them a nice gift, but some chicas will still ask for money, even if you gave them a nice gift.
If the chica is hardcore in her demands for a particular expensive phone, then it might be best to walk away from her. There are plenty of non-high-maintenance chicas in DR, no need to have to have a greedy DR chica by your side.
These are just my two pesos, you are a big boy, you know what is right for you.[/QUOTE]Yea its funny, I was talkin to a chick who I never fuked because of her attitude and she had the nerve to tell me its her sons bday next week and can I bring a playstation for him next time I come down. I'm like 'ya right'. She told me she gets $100 us a pop in sosua. I was thinkin to myself 'she better get her own playstation'
[QUOTE=Jaosousa]There are plenty of non-high-maintenance chicas in DR, no need to have to have a greedy DR chica by your side.
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Absolutely. And the less greedy ones are likely to be more affectionate and stable and more deserving of your cash.
[QUOTE=Jaosousa]Some chicas could easily give whatever gifts they get, to their Dominican or Haitian boyfriends.[/QUOTE]
Anything resaleable is likely to be given to, or taken from them by, their local boyfriend or "chulo". Or sold for less than you paid for it to buy food for themselves and children or to pay the rent. This last is a better use of your money but better to give them cash in the first place.
[QUOTE=Jaosousa]Some chicas will factor in that you gave them a nice gift, but some chicas will still ask for money, even if you gave them a nice gift.
[/QUOTE]
Very few will consider a gift as part payment of their normal fee. The rule is:
Give if it gives you pleasure to give. But don't expect gratitude or appreciation of what the gift is worth.
As ever there are exceptions to all of above but wise to assume your chica is not one of the exceptions. Then you might just get a pleasant surprise but don't count on it!
[QUOTE=Bobsthrobbinknob]Don't take them that shit, they REALLY DON'T DESERVE IT. Here are a couple of links to sites where I buy $50 IPhone clones. You can get about any clone you want, and let them complain if it doesn't suit. They can't use those HTC's and IPhones to capacity down there, and it's a lot easier to just hand them this with a small mini SD of bachata stuck in there and tell them to shut the fuck up and listen to their music.
[url]http://gizmoheart.com/index.php?p=catalog&parent=12&pg=1[/url]
[url]http://www.sourcinggate.com/[/url][/QUOTE]These look like good "traveling phones" for the prudent monger, LOL. SIM it up when you get there, and you're talking ... at the end of the trip, "if you're feeling generous," you could leave it with La Favorita. Or not, if you're not.
(Meanwhile, [i]your genuine[/i] phone stays safe in the safe, or safe at home.)
Great Report,
I have been to POP and was thinking about Sousa, sounds like you had a great trip. Is NG within walking distance to most stuff? And are there always chicas at NG for you to choose. I also was at BB and that was good but so far out of the way, was thinking about FOD but not a lot of info.
Thanks
[QUOTE=John from NJ]Because of all the great information provided by this board I had a great vacation in Sosua. I cannot thank you guys enough. As promised here is my report.
I returned home last week from my second trip to Sosua. Flew Continental non-stop from EWR to POP and stayed at the New Garden again. The POP immigration officer held up a ‘tips’ sign after processing my paper work. Right, next time hold up the sign before stamping the paper work, stupid. Just my luck the custom agent decided to check my bags. But he chose the dive bag and decided it was not worth going through. He did not ask for a tip. The cab from the NG was waiting for me as I exited the terminal. The NG is in the process of renovating rooms and just in time. The ceiling panel in my bathroom fell down and the door to the refrigerator cabinet was falling off. The pool could also use a face lift. But the new restaurant is great and the NG in my opinion is still the place to stay and play. The NG was dead on Sunday (no Chicas at all) because the owner was having a family party. The rest of the week started out slow but by Wednesday the place was hopping. I had a good time the first trip but had a better time this trip. An understanding of how the game is played gave me more confidence and a better game plan.
Basic Routine:
I spent the afternoons diving, arriving back at the NG around 5pm. After a quick shower and a beer I would select a house girl for a ST session followed by a nap and them a late dinner. By 11pm I would be out looking for a TLN. I was very lucky this trip. My selections were drama free and provided agreed upon services which ranged from acceptable to excellent. Maybe my success was the result of staying out of Classicos and off the strip as much as possible.
I also found out most of the chicas love toys. My small vibrating dildo and a magic wand were very popular. The key is to keep the size of the toys reasonable so they are not intimidating and to introduce them slowly.
My favorite routine was to get the chica comfortable (naked) in one of my t-shirts and enjoy a few drinks/beers on the balcony while listing to music. From there it was to the shower then to bed for round one. Followed a trip to the strip for some food. After a nice snack on the balcony on to round two then some sweet dreams. Often a bonus round would be delivered in the morning.
New Garden Girls
Had a NG chica most afternoons/early evenings. I don’t remember most of their names or what we actually did but they must have provided acceptable service because I don’t remember getting pissed at any of them.
Vicky, I do remember and had two sessions with her. She was a nice MILF who spoke some English and gave a great BBBJCIM. She liked her pussy and boobs played with but was ticklish when stroked anywhere else. She enjoyed the magic wand but had to have control of it. She sucked me as she use the wand on herself. The more excited she got the better job she did.
I spent a lot of time with Jessica last year & decide to give her a try again. Jessica is all business and has all kinds of ‘up sells’ to extract extra pesos out of you. This time while we were in the middle of a nice fuck when she asked if I want her ass and what I’m was willing to pay for it. Not a good time to open up negotiations. I like anal but she asked for 3,000 and I bet by the time we were done it would have cost me more so I took a pass. I did not even counter offer. Jessica did try her best but could not get the job done. We even used the dildo in my ass while she blew me. Eventually I paid her to leave.
Margareta
Information from this board indicated that Bar Central was a popular hangout for Haitian chicas. I always wanted to try one so I stopped in Monday night. Cool bar run by a German with great rock and roll videos playing and 80 pesos beers. Before I had a chance to scope out a Haitian, Margareta a cute Dominican was all over me. Her English was as good and my Spanish, none existent but she was sweet, playful and very determined to get me interested. She succeeded & I spent 4 nights with her. Margareta is new to the business (did not know what she was doing but took instruction well), is illiterate (could use the translator), needs the money (poorly dressed, several kids and a ring on her left hand fourth finger), not great at giving head but loves to fuck and enjoys spending time away from her shitty life. By the time she took care of family business and got to Sosua she was tired and hungry but she still treated me like a king. What she like at night was time to relax, some food, a few quick climaxes and sleep. But in the morning this girl could not give or get enough sex. She was a real morning person.
The first night Margareta was sitting on the bed while I looked for some music on the TV. When I sat down and leaned back against her she noticed the black heads on my back. The next thing I know she had me laying on my stomach while she picked at my back. When I had enough a quick shower was in order before the fun began. I had to take the lead but by the time I kissed and stroked my way down to her ‘Y’ she was very wet and only required a little tongue action to reach the first ‘O’. Margareta like the rest of the girls I meet loved oral sex and were very responsive. Anyway I decided it would be a good time to introduce the magic wand. So I grabbed it off the night table turned it on low & touched her chest just above the breasts. Big mistake. Margareta flew off the bed. She had no idea what happen and started to panic. It took quite awhile to claim her down & get her back on the bed. This time I showed her the wand and let her examine it. I turned it on and ran it up and down my arm to show her it did not hurt. Then I gently touch the back of her hand with it. She was hesitant at first but I slowly moved it up her arm and across her chest. By the time I reached the boobs she was hooked. Between my tongue, fingers and the wand she came many times. She was embarrassed each time she came and gave me a ‘wow’ as she hid her face in her hands or pillow. But she would soon spread her legs for more. The problem was my timing. By the time I was ready this girl was done. And I mean DONE. She crawled up into a ball and basically passed out. Lesson learned: ‘get yours first’. About 7:30am the next morning a freshly showered Margareta is waking me up and wants to play. While we were playing she answered her phone several times. I believe she did not expect to stay until late morning and had not arranged for proper child care. But she did not leaving until we both got off.
The next night I’m headed to the strip when a chica comes up & starts hitting me. I pushed her away, said I’m meeting my amigos and kept walking. By the time I rounded the corner she is back on me this time asking ‘no remember?, no remember?’. I had no clue who she was until I look down and recognized the blouse. It was Margareta in the same blouse with the big gold bars across the front she had on the prior night. What changed was her hair. She went from long curls with brown high lights to straight black hair. Back at the NG she strips down, puts on the t-sheet and starts empting the contents of her large hand bag. It was obvious that she was prepared to spend the night & would not be in any hurry to leave in the morning. She even brought a hair net to sleep in. While we were having drinks on the baloney Margareta started to massage my feet & saw the huge broken blister on the ball of my right foot. The next thing I knew she was cleaning it out and wanted scissors to cut way the dead skin. The girl was gentle and did a good job. When she was done off to the shower we went and then to bed for fun time. This time I made sure I got off before grabbing the magic wand. When we were done Margareta indicated she was hungry and wanted to go out for food. At 2:30am I did not think it was possible but was willing to give it a go. The restaurants were closed but she got us a couple of nice chicken sandwiches from a street vendor. We ate our meal on the balcony then played with the toys one more time before going to sleep. And I was right Margareta was in no hurry to leave in the morning. She would not stay for breakfast but it was after 10am when she left.
I don’t recall how I hooked up with Margareta for the third time but she somehow found me. We were both exhausted so the night consisted of a drink on the balcony and sleep. But the next morning she was ready to go again and again.
On Friday night the NG had a BBQ. 500 pesos for guest, 250 for accompanied chicas and it was good. The place was pack with chicas looking for a free meal and it would have been a lot of fun if the rain held off. When I got in line there was this cute chica with huge boobs standing by the corner of the bar trying to stay dry and looking miserable. I felt sorry for the girl & when I asked if she would like dinner her personality light right up. We joined a guy from NYC and his girl for a pleasant dinner. Shortly after 10pm in strolls Margareta. When she saw the other chica I could not decide if she was going to cry or go ballistic. She went on about meeting at 10pm and the other chica. I actually did not realize it was past 10 and played dumb. I offer her a seat between me and the guy from NYC. She quickly dragged the chair around me and sat between me and the other chica. It was quite a show with Margareta pissed at me but not wanting to push too hard and the other chica trying to protect her investment. After a bit I decided to defuse the situation and took Margareta to Bar Central. The videos were not playing and Margareta wanted something to eat so we went to a small Italian restaurant on the strip where her friend worked. I was not hungry but she had a nice bowel of pasta with meat sauce for 250 pesos. Once she was feed and watered all was well and back to the room we went for another incredible night and morning.
I would have kept Margareta for a fifth night but things got too personal. She started talking about the cost of milk and showed me how she needed new shoes. I did not want to hear about her problems so it was time for her to go.
La Passions
La Passions is a great bar and the ladies are top notch. Don’t think you could go wrong with any of the La Passion girls. You pay a premium but get a drama free, first class lady who will keep her end of the deal.
The first night I introduced myself to Peter & he introduced me to the bar manager. Don’t remember the manager’s name but she was great. Really looked after the interest of the bar, girls and customers. She was always around making sure everyone was happy and getting a fair deal. I asked her to set me up with a lady who spoke English. So she brings over Anabel. After a bit of flirting Anabel shows me the menu. When I pointed to the take out option she was all smiles. A nice easy night laid ahead for her. After she changed we sat at the bar and chatted with some of the girls. There was no hurry Anabel was off duty and I was enjoying the attention.
Back at the NG Anabel was great. BBBJ, DFKing, full service in any position and she happily took a pounding. Unfortunately she does not like toys but was very responsive to DATY and inserted fingers. In the morning she was a bit reluctant to put out but an offer of breakfast quickly changed her attitude.
A couple of nights later I want back to La Passions looking for Anabel. She was not working but the bar manager offered to call her. Did not sound like a good idea so I asked her to introduce me to someone else who spoke English. Samira was the lady she brought over. Samira was charming. Unfortunately timing was not in our favor. I wanted the 2,500 midnight take out price and but she was going off duty before midnight. So she introduced me to Kimberly. Kimberly was a tall stunner, universality educated, spoke English and was new to the business. Back at the NG she was great. She even grabbed the toys off the night stand and wanted to know how to use them. They were such a big hit she wanted to keep them. By morning I had had enough so we had a late breakfast and said our good-byes.
My last night in Sosua I went back to La Passions. Before I could get the attention of the bar manager Emely came by to say hello. Emely spoke no English but was cute and playful. Things were going good when Anabel appeared. Now I had a hard decision to make. Luckily Emely saw I was favoring Anabel and gracefully disappeared. Back at the new NG I followed my usual routine, got comfortable, relaxed with drinks on the balcony, showered and the games began. We finished round one with me standing and Anabel in the doggie position at the edge of the bed. Anabel rode me long and hard with her ass like only a dancer could. When we were done I asked if she was hungry which of course she was. So off to the strip we went for food. After a nice meal on the balcony round two consisted of an oral fest. I had nothing left in the morning so we had breakfast, said our good-bys and I packed for the trip to the airport.
Food
I ate a late breakfast every morning at the NG and skipped lunch. I had over priced ribs at Rocky’s one night and sampled the BBQ at the NG. I also tried the Scotch 'N' Sirloin Restaurant at the Terra Linda hotel. It was ok put pricy. The rest of the week I ate at the Casa Valeria. For 600 pesos I got an excellent dinner and drink served in a comfortable and relaxed environment. A couple of locals recommended the restaurant at the Hotel Orchidee. Maybe I’ll try it next time but the entrance does not look very appealing.
I also had several good late night snacks from the street vendors. The best way to deal with the vendors is to let your chica chose the vendor. Tell her to order whatever she wants but order two. Give her a couple hundred pesos and stand back. She’ll return with a great cheap snack.
Money:
The exchange shop around the corner from the Happy Bar on Duarte was giving 36.5 pesos to the dollar. Nice clean secure place. The street guys were giving 36 pesos’ to the dollar.
Beach:
After checking into the NG Sunday afternoon & running a few errands I headed to the beach. After walking up and down looking for all the places I read about I spent the rest of the afternoon at the Scandinavian beach bar nursing a few beers while watching the world past by. This was my first and only venture to the beach.
Diving:
I wanted to use Scuba Elite again this year but when I walk by on the way to the beach on Sunday they were closed. Monday afternoon I stopped by with my gear but Kerri was taking her son to the airport and was not running a trip. So I walk down the street and tried Northern Coast Diving. Dove two days with them and it was a disaster. They are a large commercial operation who mixed snorkelers, student divers and divers of mixed experience all on the same boat. I spent more time floating on the surface them I did on the bottom. It took forever to get everyone in and down and when the first newbie blew through their air the whole group had to surface. I went back to Scuba Elite the third day. Kerri runs a great boutique shop. Her male partner and dive master moved on so she now is a one women shop but appreciates the business and is willing to work with you. I spent the rest of the week diving with Kerri and a pleasant guy from an all inclusive. The diving is not world class but you do not go to the DR for the diving. It is just pleasant way to spend an afternoon. This year I did not get up for the morning dives.
Motos’
I used the motos’ for the first time this year. They are a great way to get around town. I would just hop on and tell the driver where I wanted to go. When I got off I would hand the driver 50 pesos, say gracias and walk way. I only had a minor issue once and I knew I was going to have a problem before getting on. On the way back from La Passion this guy pulls up on more of a sport bike then a moto. He was also wearing a leather jacket worth 350-400 us. When we reach the NG I handed him and Anabel's driver 50 pesos each. My driver started going on about wanting 100. I just said ‘no, 50’, took Anabel's hand and walk into the NG. Off course having the NG security guard standing at the curb probably help defuse the situation.
Phone
I brought a phone from the Claro shop on Pedro Clisante just beyond Dr. Rosen. The phone with a 100 peso card cost 495 pesos. I purchased an additional 500 peso card and called the States each night & made several local calls. The waitresses at the Casa Valeria help me set it up so the menus and recordings were in English. The phone had voice mail but I never used it so I don’t know if it actually worked. It was a good investment.
Pharmaceutical Help
Last year I tried the DR version of Viagra and had a reaction so decided to use only the prescription versions this year. I use Viagra at home but decided to try Cialis. I took 10mg each morning and I was good to go all day and all night. It got me hard at the appropriate times but did not leave me with a ragging hard on when to deed was done like Viagra does.
Street Kids & Vendors
There were a lot more Haitian street kids this year. They are a sad lot; truly hungry, thirsty and real desperate. Problem is they are also violent. So far the violence has been amongst themselves but sooner or later it will expand. There were also lots of old Haitian women/men walking around selling all kinds of stuff from hard boiled eggs to CDs. They were not aggressive. I just replied no gracias to their sales pitch and kept walking.
Tipping
I left the maid $5 each morning and a small bag of chocolates. It was money well spent. She could not do enough for me. My room was made up whenever I wanted, she left a pile of towels each day and I had at least a dozen & half bars of unused soap by the end of the week.
I also tipped the security guard $5 every couple of nights to watch my back. I did not need his help this year but it was good to knew he was round and knew me. He greeted me every night at the gate, would keep an eye on my room as he patrol & was at my side when I had the minor issue with the last moto guy. I also found him to be a source for ice. I like to drink scotch on the rocks but was drinking it ‘neat’ for lack of ice early in the week. One hot night while sitting on the balcony with my chica I notice the guard going to the ice box & filling up a pitcher so he would have cold water to drink. Down stairs I went with my translator & typed in ‘ice’. He shook his head ‘yes’, walked away and came back with a bag of ice for me. I was set for the rest of the week. I did have a funny situation with him one night. I tried to explain that I was going to dinner next door and if Margareta came looking for me have her wait or send her next door. After going back and forth I finally got a smile of understanding and he starts to run upstairs. I thinking ‘shit, Margareta is with someone and he is going pull her out of the room resulting in some very unhappy campers’. When I see him coming back down the stairs I start laughing my ass off. He was carrying an arm full of towels. How he interpreted me looking for Margareta for waiting towels is beyond me but he was definitely trying to accommodate me.
Chica Prices
There were guys talking about paying 500 pesos for BJs and no more than 1,000-1,500 for TLN. Then they would start telling horror stories about the chicas, who would leave early, not provide the services promised, try to up sell, stole things or just went crazy. I wanted drama free sessions with pleasant and playful chicas and was willing to pay a premium for it. I gave the NG girls 1200 to 1500 for ST, Margareta 2000 per night, and the La Passion girls 2500 to 3500 with a 500 tip. I enjoyed their services & had no problems with any of them. When the girls went into the bathroom to refreshing up I would leave the money and a small box of chocolates by their belongings. I also had a traveling toothbrush/toothpaste for each girl. Mouth wash, cups and plenty of clean towels were also available. If the chica was hungry we went to the strip for food after round one. While we ate our meal on the balcony I recharged. By the time we finished the chica was happy and we were both ready to go again. I treated the girls right and they treated me right.
I did have a funny misunderstanding with one NG chic. I offered 1,000 pesos for ST but she wanted 1500. It was getting dark and without my glasses I could not see well. I thought I had a 1,000 note, a couple of 100 notes and a couple of us dollars in my pocket. I showed her the money and indicated that was all I had. Well, see looked at the money, said something in Spanish and walked away. I could not understand why she would not take the 1200 for a quickie. When I got back to the room and put my glasses on I found out why she did not accept the offer. I did not have a 1000 note, just three 100 notes. Poor girl must have thought I was a real cheap bastard.
Whoever spends the last night with me gets the ‘spoils’ in the morning. Anabel was the lucky girl this year. I gave her the extra condoms, lub, baby oil, body cream, tooth brushes/paste, chocolates, soap, mouthwash, & cigarettes which she appreciated. I kept the toys.
Budget:
Airfare: frequent flyer miles + $97 tax
Airport parking: 8days $75
POP Taxi: $20+$5 tip @ 2 $50
Lodging : 7 nights @ $62 $434
Food: 700 pesos a day $140
Chicas: 4000 pesos per day $800
Diving: $70 per day for 6 days $420
Tips: maid, security guard, etc $70
Phone: $30
Misc: drinks, motos’, water, etc $150
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total $2,266
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[QUOTE=Jaosousa]Once you start down that slippery slope, of having the chicas dictate what gifts they want, it usually never stops. On your next trip she will ask for a laptop.
I had one chica who wanted a motorola razor cell phone, years ago, I bought her a prepaid one at walmart for around $80 dollars. I stopped seeing that chica.
My last trip I gave a chica a $20 watch I bought at Walmart and she was very happy. A few years ago I gave another chica a $20 Samsung cell phone, she still has the phone and uses it and I still see that chica.
I like to give gifts, but I like to give gifts on my terms. When chicas start dictating to me, that they want this model or that model of phone, it is a red flag. To me, I don't care how my cell phone looks, I am happy with a $20 Samsung phone.
For many chicas in DR, a cell phone is like a fashion accessory, like a louis vuitton bag (to me they look nothing special and slightly ugly). It is a just a status symbol.
I doubt any of their Dominican or Haitian boyfriends give them any gifts. Some chicas could easily give whatever gifts they get, to their Dominican or Haitian boyfriends.
It is nice to be generous with a person you like, but, be careful, some chicas will use and abuse a guy just as well as some guys use chicas.
It is your money (I don't like anyone telling me how to spend my money), giving her a $50 or $100 or more, phone may make economic sense, the chica might be very happy with the gift and stay with you for three or more days. So you might be saving money in the long run, rather than if you went out and paid different chicas to be with you for three or more days. Some chicas will factor in that you gave them a nice gift, but some chicas will still ask for money, even if you gave them a nice gift.
If the chica is hardcore in her demands for a particular expensive phone, then it might be best to walk away from her. There are plenty of non-high-maintenance chicas in DR, no need to have to have a greedy DR chica by your side.
These are just my two pesos, you are a big boy, you know what is right for you.[/QUOTE]
This chica was with me everyday for every hour my last trip and only would leave when I asked her to. Planning to have the same setup this go-around. Plus I get "extras" with her (not going to spell out what those extras are, but I luv my extras :))
But yeah, there is no way in hell I am buying a chica a laptop. I am a tech junky myself and I am not going to give her something like that when that money could have gone to a new iPhone 4G, MacBook Pro, or iPad. I agree with what you and others said; something as expensive as a laptop would probably just get taken, stolen, or sold.
thanks for the report. Sounds like a good trip, straightforward and no hassles!
Sometimes I get the feeling that guys in Sosua need to be reminded that these chicas are putas, and not real girlfriends.
[QUOTE=John from NJ]Because of all the great information provided by this board I had a great vacation in Sosua. I cannot thank you guys enough. As promised here is my report.[/QUOTE]Very good post, thanks. Hielo (hee el oooo) is ice. Almost sounds like yellow in English.
[QUOTE=Member #2041]Sometimes I get the feeling that guys in Sosua need to be reminded that these chicas are putas, and not real girlfriends.[/QUOTE]I get that feeling too.
-Helpmann :)
[b][url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=996512&postcount=5214]How Do You Know if She's a Ho?[/url][/b]
[b][url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=996512&postcount=5214]How Do You Know if She's a Ho?[/url][/b][/QUOTE]
Haha...that's great. But, people always have and always will believe what they want to believe. The story is as old as mankind....
You may want to revise #7 to read: If she's barely literate in her own language, but speaks English, Italian, French, Dutch, German or any other language fairly well, then chances are she's a Ho."
[QUOTE=Chief Justice]You can also get some phones here for decent prices:
[url]http://www.ubid.com/electronics/cell-phones/?ellftlnk=1[/url][/QUOTE]
Oh SHit!! I didnt know those phones were knock offs! I dont even own an Iphone and I was sitting in Sosua thinking "who in the hell is buying these girls 400 dollar phones?" hahaha!! I never even knew there were knock off iphones. I will have to pick one up for myself! Does anyone know if you can use these phones in Rio and the DR?
[QUOTE=Charles Pooter] And the less greedy ones are likely to be more affectionate and stable and more deserving of your cash.[/QUOTE]I agree, why swim with sharks when you can swim with dolphins.
[QUOTE=Bravo]Oh SHit!! I didnt know those phones were knock offs! I dont even own an Iphone and I was sitting in Sosua thinking "who in the hell is buying these girls 400 dollar phones?" hahaha!! I never even knew there were knock off iphones. I will have to pick one up for myself! Does anyone know if you can use these phones in Rio and the DR?[/QUOTE]As long as you get an unlocked gsm or cdma you are good practically anywhere you go.
Top 5 Reason why Gringos try to change a Ho to a Housewife from another country
1. She's cheaper then a regular broad or ho in the USA
2 She's FINER and YOUNGER then a regular broad or ho in the states
3. She makes your toes curl. She's satisfy all your SEXUAL DESIRES. You know the ones that you have to check off your "kick the bucket list" before you die
4. She's CHEAPER then these broads in the States!
5. There would be no ISG forum without hoes!
So in conclusion GOD BLESS my Dominican/Haitian Hoes. I Salute You!!!
[QUOTE=Member #2041]Sometimes I get the feeling that guys in Sosua need to be reminded that these chicas are putas, and not real girlfriends.[/QUOTE]
Daaayaaammm, it's so long since I've had a "real girlfriend" that I completely slipped my gears when three of Blackbeard's lovelies came up to me on my first day and started feeling me up.
But I stand by my statement about getting an "I-Clone" for travel. And yes, if I find myself a "favorita" I would probably think in terms of "nice parting gifts" as the old TV game-shows called 'em.
Actually, now is the time of year that bikinis are going to be hitting the clearance racks at Wal-Mart and the like. And in the DR, swimming pools are a year-round thing....
[QUOTE=Member #2041]Sometimes I get the feeling that guys in Sosua need to be reminded that these chicas are putas, and not real girlfriends.[/QUOTE]true indeed but there isn't anything wrong with having favorites. I wouldn't bring any chica a brand new Iphone but I may spend up to $200 on a gift if I know I am getting at least 3 days worth of some passionate fucking and sucking. Hell, it beats taking one of these american chicks out spending up to $100 bux a night on a frivolous date that isn't/won't go anywhere. If I have a condo, I put my chicas to work. Cooking, cleaning and. Well yall kno the rest.
[QUOTE=John from NJ]Because of all the great information provided by this board I had a great
I spent a lot of time with Jessica last year & decide to give her a try again. Jessica is all business and has all kinds of ‘up sells’ to extract extra pesos out of you. This time while we were in the middle of a nice fuck when she asked if I want her ass and what I’m was willing to pay for it. Not a good time to open up negotiations. I like anal but she asked for 3,000 and I bet by the time we were done it would have cost me more so I took a pass. I did not even counter offer. Jessica did try her best but could not get the job done. We even used the dildo in my ass while she blew me. Eventually I paid her to leave. [/QUOTE]TIME OUT! DAMN the jokes! Did you just say that you had a dildo up your ass while she was giving you head! I hope to Jesus mother and Joseph that was a typo. I'm a freak but damn that. LMFAO
Other then that GREAT report!
[QUOTE=Coolie High]TIME OUT! DAMN the jokes! Did you just say that you had a dildo up your ass while she was giving you head! I hope to Jesus mother and Joseph that was a typo. I'm a freak but damn that. LMFAO
Other then that GREAT report![/QUOTE]Don't front Coolie, you know there are some photos of you floating around sosua with a big dildo up your rectum. Lololol
[QUOTE=Coolie High]TIME OUT! DAMN the jokes! Did you just say that you had a dildo up your ass while she was giving you head! I hope to Jesus mother and Joseph that was a typo. I'm a freak but damn that. LMFAO
Other then that GREAT report![/QUOTE]
I am hoping that was a typOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooo that sounds like it hurt.
[QUOTE=Negro562]I am hoping that was a typOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooo that sounds like it hurt.[/QUOTE]Not a typo. What can I say? I enjoy a prostrate massage with either a small buzzing dildo or a finger while receiving oral. The dildo in question is not a 9 inch monster. It is about 4 inch long and a little thicker than the average middle finger. It provides a great sensation. It feels like you are cuming through both your ass and dick at the same time. Try it, you may like it.
[QUOTE=John from NJ]Not a typo. What can I say? I enjoy a prostrate massage with either a small buzzing dildo or a finger while receiving oral. The dildo in question is not a 9 inch monster. It is about 4 inch long and a little thicker than the average middle finger. It provides a great sensation. It feels like you are cuming through both your ass and dick at the same time. Try it, you may like it.[/QUOTE]
OKAAAAAAAAAY! TMI!
[QUOTE=Coolie High]Top 5 Reason why Gringos try to change a Ho to a Housewife from another country
1. She's cheaper then a regular broad or ho in the USA
2 She's FINER and YOUNGER then a regular broad or ho in the states
3. She makes your toes curl. She's satisfy all your SEXUAL DESIRES. You know the ones that you have to check off your "kick the bucket list" before you die
4. She's CHEAPER then these broads in the States!
5. There would be no ISG forum without hoes!
So in conclusion GOD BLESS my Dominican/Haitian Hoes. I Salute You!!![/QUOTE]
Not to name names but a member on here, I love like a brother, had been going down to find just the right one to lay his seed for just the above reasons. Needless to say he found success and is relatively happy with her and his 2 Genetic tested kids (Got to check paternity with these ladies with all the mixed blood you cant know what your child will look like) in Miami Florida.. He is IKETurnerish and has no issues to date.
[QUOTE=John from NJ]Not a typo. What can I say? I enjoy a prostrate massage with either a small buzzing dildo or a finger while receiving oral. The dildo in question is not a 9 inch monster. It is about 4 inch long and a little thicker than the average middle finger. It provides a great sensation. It feels like you are cuming through both your ass and dick at the same time. Try it, you may like it.[/QUOTE]
We understand that you are lying down prostrate, but what part of you is getting massaged?
[QUOTE=Chief Justice]Don't front Coolie, you know there are some photos of you floating around sosua with a big dildo up your rectum. Lololol[/QUOTE]Ooh I see you got jokes! Next time you go to DR I'ma find a midget for you that's going stick her whole arm up your ass while blowing you. Let me know if you like it lololol.
[QUOTE=John from NJ]Not a typo. What can I say? I enjoy a prostrate massage with either a small buzzing dildo or a finger while receiving oral. The dildo in question is not a 9 inch monster. It is about 4 inch long and a little thicker than the average middle finger. It provides a great sensation. It feels like you are cuming through both your ass and dick at the same time. Try it, you may like it.[/QUOTE]WOW so that wasn't a typo. I heard it all. Hell I'm now ready for a member here thatll step up and say he raw dogs all these broads and eat ass whenever possible! The Brazil boards already have a member like this while the Sosua board has a member that takes a 4 inch dildo up his ass while trying to SKEET in the broad mouth. And I cant forget about Chiefs midget. LMFAO
[QUOTE=Alex Deuce]Not to name names but a member on here, I love like a brother, had been going down to find just the right one to lay his seed for just the above reasons. Needless to say he found success and is relatively happy with her and his 2 Genetic tested kids (Got to check paternity with these ladies with all the mixed blood you cant know what your child will look like) in Miami Florida.. He is IKETurnerish and has no issues to date.[/QUOTE]Hey tell your boy to write about his Ho to housewife transformation. LORD knows I would love to here it. Haven't heard a success story yet so to me if one make it WE all make it.
After seeing my child hood hero on national tv breakdown and cry cus his wife took the house, the cars AND got another dude laying up in his bed like he paid for it, marriage to a woman in the States has scared the SHIT outta me. So I'll take my chances with my DR bonitas anyday cus I'm not marrying any regular broad in the states
BTW my child hood hero was Hulk Hogan
[QUOTE=Coolie High]WOW so that wasn't a typo. I heard it all. Hell I'm now ready for a member here thatll step up and say he raw dogs all these broads and eat ass whenever possible! The Brazil boards already have a member like this while the Sosua board has a member that takes a 4 inch dildo up his ass while trying to SKEET in the broad mouth. And I cant forget about Chiefs midget. LMFAO[/QUOTE]
Coolie I bet there are a whole lot of secrets being kept off this board. Everyone probably has a few things they won't post. At least minature dildo man tell it like it is. What they say, Don't knock it till you try it............
[QUOTE=Bq Ribs]Coolie I bet there are a whole lot of secrets being kept off this board. Everyone probably has a few things they won't post. At least minature dildo man tell it like it is. What they say, Don't knock it till you try it............[/QUOTE]Coolie High, the real "connaisseure"
[QUOTE=Bq Ribs]Coolie I bet there are a whole lot of secrets being kept off this board. Everyone probably has a few things they won't post. At least minature dildo man tell it like it is. What they say, Don't knock it till you try it.[/QUOTE]Miniature Dildo Man. ROTFLMAO! Yeah we all have secrets but something's should remain just that. A SECRET! Having a 4 inch dildo up your ass to get maximum pleasure is one of them.
Hell I sometimes like to have a broad choke on Mighty Joe Young til she's pukes on it but you don't see me telling everyone that. Wait a minute! I just did!
[QUOTE=John from NJ]Because of all the great information provided by this board I had a great vacation in Sosua. I cannot thank you guys enough. As promised here is my report.
[/QUOTE]
I'm a little late to the party but I just wanted to let you know I added this to the ROD thread. I am finally planning a long postponed and much needed trip and this report was outstanding! Thanks dude.
2J
[QUOTE=Coolie High]Hey tell your boy to write about his Ho to housewife transformation. LORD knows I would love to here it. Haven't heard a success story yet so to me if one make it WE all make it.
After seeing my child hood hero on national tv breakdown and cry cus his wife took the house, the cars AND got another dude laying up in his bed like he paid for it, marriage to a woman in the States has scared the SHIT outta me. So I'll take my chances with my DR bonitas anyday cus I'm not marrying any regular broad in the states
BTW my child hood hero was Hulk Hogan[/QUOTE]
He has on several occasions only to be shouted down. Actually, I know of more success stories than horror to be honest; especially when the age difference is reasonable. 50 year old dude and 19-21 year old chicas ain't gone work in normal society. What makes you think its gone work here. I can't do it. It's like marrying the team *****. You know, the chick that sucked n fucked the entire team while she was dead sober and loved it!
Once I had a flight from Mia to Pop, and had the pleasure of sitting next to this retired attorney. He was an older brother who had a son attenting the you whom he wasn't vibing with. Basically he was an older gentelman with a healthy pension and alone. His monthly pension was 12k a month. He had a house in puerto plata.
Being I was raised by older women I learrned to respect my elders so I just listened to dude talk. The house was 1000usd per month. The girls mom was working in Santigo for two hundred USD a month as a maid. He decided to put mom on his payroll and do the right thing. He bought the property next door for 12k USD for his girl to teach her money handling skills. He stated his girl calls ten times a day to check in which annoyed him. I'm thinking he got some gold digger.
Well we get to Pop clear baggage and this fine chic and her mom come running up to him and grab his luggage. He tries to introduce me but she doesn't seem interested. This chic is fine, dressed in work out clothes and driving a M5.
Most Dominican chics crave attention, but this girl was focussed on him, oblivious to anything else. He invited me to his house for dinner, but I knew I couldn't accept because his girl was to fine.
So I ask myself, being he put mom on the payroll and set the girl up sweet would she fuck up?
After his third call I decided to accept dinner. A fish fry with mom and daughter treating him like a king. But I noticed the girl was absent not hanging around him and I. We ate, drank and had a ball at his pool/patio, so I popped the question.
How do you know that you can trust the girl when your gone? He said "if she fucks up with all the shit iv'e done for her and her mom, good ridense". He was old school but he wasnt a fool. Being he took care of the mom offered some trust from her.
The question is if your getting a big pension is it worth it to sacrice a small portion of it for happynesss? He did.
[QUOTE=Alex Deuce]He has on several occasions only to be shouted down. Actually, I know of more success stories than horror to be honest; especially when the age difference is reasonable. 50 year old dude and 19-21 year old chicas ain't gone work in normal society. What makes you think its gone work here. I can't do it. It's like marrying the team *****. You know, the chick that sucked n fucked the entire team while she was dead sober and loved it![/QUOTE]Tell your boy with all seriousness to come back and re-tell his story cus Im trying to be like him within the next 5-8yrs. I’m still young with no kids but soon I want to eventually do the Cosby routine and settle down. Now I know the fellas can be hard on the broads sometime and for good reason. Some of these broads have more game then the Parker brothers. But any monger who has successfully found a sweetheart down here regardless if she took money for sex at the time should never feel like there going to get rip if they tell us there success. Hell a success story is what I want to read.
And yeah I agree with you the age part. If your 50 and she’s 20 then there’s going to be a higher possibility of shit not working out. But hey I’m no expert. If you think you gotta a chance with the broad go for it
[QUOTE=Coolie High]Miniature Dildo Man. ROTFLMAO! Yeah we all have secrets but something's should remain just that. A SECRET! Having a 4 inch dildo up your ass to get maximum pleasure is one of them.
Hell I sometimes like to have a broad choke on Mighty Joe Young til she's pukes on it but you don't see me telling everyone that. Wait a minute! I just did![/QUOTE]You younger guys just wait, as you get older you will have to get a prostate exam. To get your prostate examined, the doctor has to lube up his finger and enter your ass.
If a chica wants to tongue my anus, I have no problem with that.
[QUOTE=Ehunter]Yeh...variants of this scam are all over the world. Kinda funny how three of us here read the same post and immediately thought of the same scam. :-)
My variant is France and Germany. Always stay out of places that remind you of an American type strip club. You walk in, sit down, a hot girl comes and sits down next to you and asks you to buy her a drink. A bottle of champagne comes with a $300 price tag while the bouncer eyes you for a reaction.
A few of the boys warned me of this beforehand so I knew better. If you want to get laid, go to brothel and don't mess around.[/QUOTE]
Reminds me of a couple of other scams I know about. There is one in Puerto Plata (forgot the name of the restaurant) where the restaurant rips the tourist off for a $100 meal and a 10% "commission" goes to the taxi driver who recommended the place.
I made the same mistake in Athens, Greece when I asked the taxi driver to recommend a restaurant. After being driven 45 minutes we were so hungry we didn't care the menu didn't have prices -- I think I paid about $500us for a meal for three. Lesson learned.
I'll definitely be steering away from Club X.
The Man Tour Guy
[QUOTE=Alex Deuce]He has on several occasions only to be shouted down. Actually, I know of more success stories than horror to be honest; especially when the age difference is reasonable. 50 year old dude and 19-21 year old chicas ain't gone work in normal society. What makes you think its gone work here. I can't do it. It's like marrying the team *****. You know, the chick that sucked n fucked the entire team while she was dead sober and loved it![/QUOTE]
I know quite a few local success stories. If you are looking for a long term relationship, you want find a chica who new to the game and hasn't been ho-ified yet. Either that or a girl on the sidelines like a bartender or waitress.
The Man Tour Guy
[QUOTE=Thedrman]I know quite a few local success stories. If you are looking for a long term relationship, you want find a chica who new to the game and hasn't been ho-ified yet. Either that or a girl on the sidelines like a bartender or waitress.
The Man Tour Guy[/QUOTE]
Seems like a good idea, but you never know about the bartenders and waitresses!! I know a number of my buddies have fucked bartenders from some of the spots in sosua. Most guys think the girls arent working and never hit on them!
My own experience. I was getting along really well with the big titty bartender at Terra Linda. But after being asked for money on three separate occasions (Hair Salon, Nails & Sick Child) I am now convinced she is a former hoe, who is now working as a bartender! Luckily, I know the signs and she wont be able to string me along and suck money from me, while holding out on the pussy (Like she is a good girl). Next time I go to Sosua, I will just tell her to come to my room after her shift. When she shows up, I will be waiting for her wrapped in towel! Worst that can happen is she will get mad and leave and I will just go out and grab another hoe to take her place.
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]After his third call I decided to accept dinner. A fish fry with mom and daughter treating him like a king. But I noticed the girl was absent not hanging around him and I. We ate, drank and had a ball at his pool/patio, so I popped the question.
How do you know that you can trust the girl when your gone? He said "if she fucks up with all the shit iv'e done for her and her mom, good ridense". He was old school but he wasnt a fool. Being he took care of the mom offered some trust from her.
[/QUOTE]Mr. Gogo I gotta ask and I know I might be a lil perverted but do you think your boy is smashing the mom as well. If he is I gotta shake this mans hand.
[QUOTE=Jaosousa]You younger guys just wait, as you get older you will have to get a prostate exam. To get your prostate examined, the doctor has to lube up his finger and enter your ass.
If a chica wants to tongue my anus, I have no problem with that.[/QUOTE]Now I have no problems of having a honey toss your salad while your about to SKEET in her hair. Hell having a fine broad toss your salad is HIGHLY recommended when you come to Sosua. Just remember to not kiss the broad afterwards.
[QUOTE=Coolie High]Tell your boy with all seriousness to come back and re-tell his story cus Im trying to be like him within the next 5-8yrs. I’m still young with no kids but soon I want to eventually do the Cosby routine and settle down. Now I know the fellas can be hard on the broads sometime and for good reason. Some of these broads have more game then the Parker brothers. But any monger who has successfully found a sweetheart down here regardless if she took money for sex at the time should never feel like there going to get rip if they tell us there success. Hell a success story is what I want to read.
And yeah I agree with you the age part. If your 50 and she’s 20 then there’s going to be a higher possibility of shit not working out. But hey I’m no expert. If you think you gotta a chance with the broad go for it[/QUOTE]
That’s up to him if he wants to wade into the jungle again. However, I know he is on ISG pretty regularly. A couple notes:
1. Why do we assume that it’s always the woman that reverted? Anyone ever thought that the monger reverted back to chasing? Roughly 60% of the failures I have seen this has been the case. It’s like the sinner complex. When they transform to repent and go straight housewife they become Catholic SuperJesuses and allow the monger no leeway in transgressions. A guy that is use to having multiple partners is even harder to change than the woman that did it to survive.
2. Why would anyone try to Wifey a Puta that has kids by a Haitian or Dominican? It’s the Baby Daddy Pussy in his and her eyes until or unless he throws it away. In normal society it’s a damn struggle. What do you think is going on here? The BF most cases are the Common Law or actual husband acting as her pimp. He allows her to prostitute herself to feed the household. Some may say "How can you tell she has kids?" Dude, if you bang 5 non-baby chicks and 5 baby chicks you can figure that shit out in like 4 seconds. It always has that hollow feel at the back and gets loose easily despite how it starts. This non scientific method coupled with the common practice of cesareans is a dead give away. Yes, I even find this hollow feel in women that have had cesareans. Loss of perineal tone is a common occurrence for all deliveries (Muscles around the couchie get stressed from holding back 5-10 pounds for 5 mounts and need to be exercised back into shape -OBYGN Uncle, Sorry I know pussy) Also, if you pay attention to her conversations with other chicas, it will become quite evident she has kids. (Spanish is important even as my conversational skills suck but I understand all that is said around me.) Else all fails, take her to the Doctor to get a physical.
3. Again, just like the guys in the Brazil forum, why do you think a hot mid 20's Dominican or Brazilian left alone for months at a time would be faithful; accordingly, why would you think after being brought to America or another country this same chick wont be hypnotized by the lights?
4. But to be real with you Coolio, there is something about the way a Latin Woman takes care of her man. At my boy’s house in Miami, neither he his son nor I are allowed to serve ourselves, wash the cloths, cook or clean the dishes. Nothing! Its some ole school Leave it to beaver shit. The mans job is to provide and mow the lawn both literally and proverbially. He got her a little BS job but she works longer hours (His mother keeps the kids) She goes and picks up the kids from his moms and rushes home to feed all of them. She gets pissed off if he comes homes and cooks. Until he met her he was the Team Chef that had mad skills. All I keep hearing is that She got a cousin! Tempted at times….Only thing that gets me is that the converted to Catholicism for her. I’m a Deist so as long as you are monotheistic I don’t care; however, in the words of Fred G. Sandford: “that’s some powerful pussy to make a man change gods”. Actually, most of the guys that married a catholic dominican that had kids do this.
But back to the mater of Sousua. I am still working on my google monger maps. Anyone, have any holes in the wall or must see spots hit me up. I got all the usual. Looking for off the beaten path.
[QUOTE=Thedrman]I know quite a few local success stories. If you are looking for a long term relationship, you want find a chica who new to the game and hasn't been ho-ified yet. Either that or a girl on the sidelines like a bartender or waitress.
The Man Tour Guy[/QUOTE]
Was not Grey Dred and a couple of the old timers from this board very succesfull in making those transitions. The old crew on her had tons of great info and were very willing to share with no pretense upon what you intended to do with it. NOw, we have too many people telling you how and what to do with your money and Dick!
[QUOTE=Coolie High]Mr. Gogo I gotta ask and I know I might be a lil perverted but do you think your boy is smashing the mom as well. If he is I gotta shake this mans hand.
Coolie high you wild bro, nah he aint smashing ma dukes.But his chic was obedient as fuck.Impressed me alot but I never trust chics with my heart outside of my family.
Now I have no problems of having a honey toss your salad while your about to SKEET in her hair. Hell having a fine broad toss your salad is HIGHLY recommended when you come to Sosua. Just remember to not kiss the broad afterwards.[/QUOTE]I guess im old school but a chic even tries to lick my ass and I lose all respect for her.
[QUOTE=Alex Deuce]1. Why do we assume that it’s always the woman that reverted? Anyone ever thought that the monger reverted back to chasing?...[/quote][b]I'm not saying it's the only reason why these relationships don't last, but it's rare to find a DR monger that stops chasing tail after he gets married. At the extreme, I knew one guy who used to fly to the DR every month (4-day trips) to chase tail, while his Dominican wife took care of the kids. He did this for over 4+ years!![/b]
[quote]2. Why would anyone try to Wifey a Puta that has kids by a Haitian or Dominican? It’s the Baby Daddy Pussy in his and her eyes until or unless he throws it away...[/quote][b]Nobody should "wifey" a puta and nobody but nobody should "wifey" a puta with kids!! All of these girls, who are selling their asses and are over the age of 20, have kids. Generally, this is the reason why they are selling their asses in the first place, to feed their kids and their baby daddy/chulo. The only way you can change the situation somewhat to your advantange is to impregnante her. I HIGHLY discourage doing this because most puta's make the worst mothers and the 18-year financial obligation.[/b]
[quote]3. Again, just like the guys in the Brazil forum, why do you think a hot mid 20's Dominican or Brazilian left alone for months at a time would be faithful...? [quote][b]When dealing with putas, don't take your dick out, because another guy will find his way in. [/b]
[quote]4. But to be real with you Coolio, there is something about the way a Latin Woman takes care of her man. At my boy’s house in Miami, neither he his son nor I are allowed to serve ourselves, wash the cloths, cook or clean the dishes. Nothing! Its some ole school Leave it to beaver shit...![/QUOTE][b]True, so damn true! Shit, I remember one friend's live-in girlfriend practically washed and dried my hands before we sat down to dinner. They're some good girls to be had in the DR, if you stay out (way out) of tourist areas like Boca Chica, Sosua, Puerto Plata, and Punta Cana. [/b]
[b][url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=996512&postcount=5214]How Do You Know if She's a Ho?[/url][/b]
-Helpmann :)
[QUOTE=Alex Deuce]That's up to him if he wants to wade into the jungle again. However, I know he is on ISG pretty regularly. A couple notes:
1. Why do we assume that it's always the woman that reverted? Anyone ever thought that the monger reverted back to chasing? Roughly 60% of the failures I have seen this has been the case. A guy that is use to having multiple partners is even harder to change than the woman that did it to survive.[/QUOTE]Yeah its hard for a monger to REALLY settle down with one broad. Matter of fact its impossible for me to be with totally just one woman. Its not going to happen. So if I lose my broad from my infidelity, fuck it. I'll just have to find another.
[QUOTE=Alex Deuce]2. Why would anyone try to Wifey a Puta that has kids by a Haitian or Dominican? It's the Baby Daddy Pussy in his and her eyes until or unless he throws it away.[/QUOTE]Damn so I guess I have no hope with my current girlfriend. She lives in caberate and her ex husband whose dominician lives in santo domingo with there 2yr old baby.
[QUOTE=Alex Deuce]4. But to be real with you Coolio, there is something about the way a Latin Woman takes care of her man. At my boy's house in Miami, neither he his son nor I are allowed to serve ourselves, wash the cloths, cook or clean the dishes. Nothing! Its some ole school Leave it to beaver shit. The mans job is to provide and mow the lawn both literally and proverbially.[/QUOTE]Now that's what I'm talking about. Have no problems being the main bread winner while she takes care of the rest. Your boy should be writing us about how his broad fluffs his pillow as he leans back on the couch after a hard days work. Your boy is holding out LOL
Thanks for the knowledge. Its good to know that its actually possible to find a sweetheart in DR that you can settle down too.
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]I guess im old school but a chic even tries to lick my ass and I lose all respect for her.[/QUOTE]Not even the t'aint? the area between the balls and the anus, aint the balls and itaint the anus.
Laying on your back, chica down below licking your balls, you never had a chica go lower near the ass with her tongue?
The more hard core chicas will stick their tongue in the ass.
As you regulars know I got a "special one" who treats this older guy like a king. So do her family. With all that unconditional hospitality shown me (unconditional that is except for the occasional remittance) I finally invited her to come visit me this summer. Hey its cheaper than going down there and I know her habits well enough after all this time to figure we'd have a good time.
To recap, the deal is I give her a few bucks out of my entertainment allowance, (less than I spend on beer in a month, or a date, or a couple hours in a strip club) and she gives me a 24/7 wife, lover, translater wingman, anytime I want to go down there.
I'm like the older guy quoted in a recent post here who says something like "She has a good thing going, if she f...ks it up, good riddance to her!" I mean its a win/win for me.
Either I continue to get a fantasy romance, or she screws me at some point and I'm free to monger again in Sosua without having to hide from her friends/family.
Hell, the prospect of being free in Sosua has its merits. I could even hook up with a couple guys on this board and buy 'em a beer for all their good advice and support.
Anyway I send her ticket money tell her the date and wait. And wait! Meanwhile I'm asking when? She is going on as normal, with email etc, but no excitement about coming. Yeah, she says I'll look for ticket soon. But she's supposed to be here by now.
OK, that's it I stop talking to her, and a part of me thinks you guys are right, I've been ripped off. Then she asks for a little money to take her kid to family on the other side of the island, whaaat? Now I'm sure.
I give her shit, and write her off, and nurse my wounds (ticket money) and recall the game, yeah there was even a laptop and phone involved, classic chica game, and figure the ticket money went to some no good novio down there, who's now telling her to try and get more. It seems out of "character" for her, but who knows what goes on down there, and you guys were right after all.
But inside I'm smiling a little. I always had control, I'm free, and I had a good ride for the money, so now I'm checking out flights to Sosua next month. Back to square one, cold Presidente in my fave bar. Life is simple, Life is good, right?
Whoah, wrong! my phone starts ringing, emails and texts start flooding my cell phone, which I don't bother to answer. As I'm deleting, one message opens and I'm reading she's pissed at me because I told her "end of July" and she wanted to come end of June, which we'd agreed earlier and talked about when I was down there. She says ticket money is in her bank account and she is sending it back to me.
Checked my earlier email - turns out that I made mistake in tranlating June 30 and it came out July 30. Shit!
So I'm up here waiting for a month, getting pissed, and she's down there putting in time til I say she can come July 30. But, this novelo drama was caused by me, not her. Now I'm thinking everything that went down in the last two months WAS in "character" for her. Under the circumstances she behaved as expected.
OK, I say, lo soliento mi amor, here's a little something for your family trip and I'll see you end of July.
Meanwhile my mongering trip to Sosua is on hold (for now)
[QUOTE=Jaosousa]Not even the t'aint? The area between the balls and the anus, aint the balls and itaint the anus.
Laying on your back, chica down below licking your balls, you never had a chica go lower near the ass with her tongue?
The more hard core chicas will stick their tongue in the ass.[/QUOTE]To each his own. But to be there laying on my back with my legs cocked, like a chic waiting to get fucked, as she tickles your shitter, takes away from me feeling like a man.
Funny story:
You know what I do for a living so we have to take annual physicals. Well this rookie is there(doctors office). He's 6'5 all muscles. He's bragging about all the special operation training he had in the Marines. He goes in smiling standing tall. An hour later he comes out walking slow with his head down. He looked like someone just stole his puppy. I asked sheepishly"what happened". He said"I got violated dog"and"you can't tell anyone about this" I say okay as he walks away taking small steps.
My turn and after 20 years they haven't got me yet. They keep saying next year and I say okay. Well the male doctor tried to be slick. He didn't even ask he just started putting on the gloves and lubbing them. I'm talking fast trying to slow him down but he is focused. I say you can do the PSA blood sample, he says thats not the most accurate way. I then say I'll do it next year and he looks at my chart and says thats not working again. He's holding up the gloved hand and I realize this joker has huge hands Damn!
My mind is working fast here, and I remember this little female doctor. So I ask him if she can do it instead. The lesser of two evils I figure.
Well she did it and I'm walking out the doctors office with my head down. I look over and the Marine was sitting under a tree shaking his head. He kept repeating"that shit wasnt right man".
[QUOTE=Oakie]As you regulars know I got a "special one" who treats this older guy like a king. So do her family. With all that unconditional hospitality shown me (unconditional that is except for the occasional remittance) I finally invited her to come visit me this summer. Hey its cheaper than going down there and I know her habits well enough after all this time to figure we'd have a good time.
To recap, the deal is I give her a few bucks out of my entertainment allowance, (less than I spend on beer in a month, or a date, or a couple hours in a strip club) and she gives me a 24/7 wife, lover, translater wingman, anytime I want to go down there.
I'm like the older guy quoted in a recent post here who says something like "She has a good thing going, if she f...ks it up, good riddance to her!" I mean its a win/win for me.
Either I continue to get a fantasy romance, or she screws me at some point and I'm free to monger again in Sosua without having to hide from her friends/family.
Hell, the prospect of being free in Sosua has its merits. I could even hook up with a couple guys on this board and buy 'em a beer for all their good advice and support.
Anyway I send her ticket money tell her the date and wait. And wait! Meanwhile I'm asking when? She is going on as normal, with email etc, but no excitement about coming. Yeah, she says I'll look for ticket soon. But she's supposed to be here by now.
OK, that's it I stop talking to her, and a part of me thinks you guys are right, I've been ripped off. Then she asks for a little money to take her kid to family on the other side of the island, whaaat? Now I'm sure.
I give her shit, and write her off, and nurse my wounds (ticket money) and recall the game, yeah there was even a laptop and phone involved, classic chica game, and figure the ticket money went to some no good novio down there, who's now telling her to try and get more. It seems out of "character" for her, but who knows what goes on down there, and you guys were right after all.
But inside I'm smiling a little. I always had control, I'm free, and I had a good ride for the money, so now I'm checking out flights to Sosua next month. Back to square one, cold Presidente in my fave bar. Life is simple, Life is good, right?
Whoah, wrong! my phone starts ringing, emails and texts start flooding my cell phone, which I don't bother to answer. As I'm deleting, one message opens and I'm reading she's pissed at me because I told her "end of July" and she wanted to come end of June, which we'd agreed earlier and talked about when I was down there. She says ticket money is in her bank account and she is sending it back to me.
Checked my earlier email - turns out that I made mistake in tranlating June 30 and it came out July 30. Shit!
So I'm up here waiting for a month, getting pissed, and she's down there putting in time til I say she can come July 30. But, this novelo drama was caused by me, not her. Now I'm thinking everything that went down in the last two months WAS in "character" for her. Under the circumstances she behaved as expected.
OK, I say, lo soliento mi amor, here's a little something for your family trip and I'll see you end of July.
Meanwhile my mongering trip to Sosua is on hold (for now)[/QUOTE]Your the new Coolie High. I look forward to your reports as a did his. Can't wait to see how it turns out.
[QUOTE=Coolie High]Damn so I guess I have no hope with my current girlfriend. She lives in caberate and her ex husband whose dominician lives in santo domingo with there 2yr old baby.[/QUOTE]
I look at it like this; What kind a woman does not have her kids with her or her fam when divorcing while working for extended periods? The man should be working. How does he have time to take care of a 2 year old? Ever tried raisin a 2 year old boy? Its like dealing with bugs bunny on crack!
Thats always a bad sign! You never leave things of value unless you plan on returning to the holder or you dont give damn about the object and thats worse.. JMHO!
Hell, you know Game! I know your playin/tripping with fools by the way you write!
Back Down in Sosoua Beginning of Aug (work) and then Santo Domingo Mid Nov-Jan. Get at me if your planning. I got millions of hilton points so I will base there in both cities. Also, Been working LatinEuro hard for supposed "Non Pros" saw three chicks from GirlsHouse and Casa Modelos and bust out laughing. Got a lead on 9 that say they have no children. Nov-Jan going to be interesting. I plan on wifing up and enjoying the culture for a minute while working. I got short patients for BS so I am sure Ill go through evaluations of the nine!
[QUOTE=Oakie]So I'm up here waiting for a month, gxetting pissed, and she's down there putting in time til I say she can come July 30. But, this novelo drama was caused by me, not her. Now I'm thinking everything that went down in the last two months WAS in "character" for her. Under the circumstances she behaved as expected.
OK, I say, lo soliento mi amor, here's a little something for your family trip and I'll see you end of July.
Meanwhile my mongering trip to Sosua is on hold (for now)[/QUOTE]Oakie, on a serious tip calm down. U can't find nothing that isnt there. Your steadily trying to find a fuckup in ur relationship and u can't find it. Now ur borderline trying to sabotage a good thing
And for love of God stop worrying about the age difference. The difference between Mr. Gogo's boy and you is that hes not worrying about shit. If somethings should every arise we all know you'll handle the situation properly. Until then be cool.
Don't fuck up ur success story. Where all rooting for you.
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]I guess im old school but a chic even tries to lick my ass and I lose all respect for her.[/QUOTE]
You must waste a lot of money on toilet paper then?
[QUOTE=Charles Pooter]You must waste a lot of money on toilet paper then?[/QUOTE]Your one liners are getting pretty good Lmao.
Girls I've been taliking to on HI 5 and badoo in preparation for Medillin.
[QUOTE=Charles Pooter]You must waste a lot of money on toilet paper then?[/QUOTE]
I also loose respect for them! Exactly after they finish!
[QUOTE=Coolie High]........Thanks for the knowledge. Its good to know that its actually possible to find a sweetheart in DR that you can settle down too.[/QUOTE]
Just in case you didn't know, you have a much better chance of winning the Mega Bucks Lottery than bringing a Dominicana to the USA. It just ain't gonna happen.
[QUOTE=Bq Ribs]Just in case you didn't know, you have a much better chance of winning the Mega Bucks Lottery than bringing a Dominicana to the USA. It just ain't gonna happen.[/QUOTE]
You marry Putas: YES
You marry Normal: No, % Divorce actually less than marrying an American
Its real simple, stay out of Sosua and the normal tourist strolls and find a normal Dominicana. ***** can stay with you all day she is a Pro w/no real job and no drive!
I live in Miami, I see the success and failures everyday! The failures have two things in common X HO and Age Differential! Remember, you taking an old Ho and putting her in a fresh new market.....She will be fugging out both pants legs the moment you pull yours out.
Real simple; You shop in the sewers dont be mad when you find shit!
[QUOTE=Alex Deuce]You marry Putas: YES
You marry Normal: No, % Divorce actually less than marrying an American
Its real simple, stay out of Sosua and the normal tourist strolls and find a normal Dominicana. ***** can stay with you all day she is a Pro w/no real job and no drive!
I live in Miami, I see the success and failures everyday! The failures have two things in common X HO and Age Differential! Remember, you taking an old Ho and putting her in a fresh new market.....She will be fugging out both pants legs the moment you pull yours out.
Real simple; You shop in the sewers dont be mad when you find shit![/QUOTE]
It is my understanding if you are NOT a well established Dominican just no way will they be granted a Visa to visit the USA. Now the chicas who currently have Visas won't hardly be hooking up with anyone on this board.
You know and I know the only reason them chicas are in LOVE with us is because of the contents of our wallets. Yes there are few, very, very, very, very, few exceptions.
My main novia is a keeper for now.
She has her own car, has a professional job, has her own home, has her own cell LOL and never once asked me for any $$$$$$
She is 40ish 5'11 and divorced with 2 boys. We compliment each other real well since I am 46. I have been with the young ones but this one is real good to me. The only time she wanted something was some change at the airport to pay for parking. I grabbed all the pesos I had and went to give it to her. She said nooooo that was too much she just wants change. I put all the pesos about 4000 or so in her purse telling her hell I can't spend it in Afghanistan.
I hope to get an apartment in SD in Jan or so and won't hesitate to have this novia with me. Just have to finalize my miserable divorce first.
When I come in from the world I am at I bring some jewelry that I get here real cheap- $15-20. 00 for a bracelet, earring, necklace set in Silver. She goes gaga over it and me LOL and I also give some to her Mom and #1 Amiga.
And O yes esto culo es mio mami! And I always slap that culo!
[QUOTE=La Isla]The Greeks are the heros of sex! Otherwise, we wouldn't here those sweet words, "Papi, mi culo es tuyo!"
My Greek friends father was from a small village in Crete. He told me, "If you don't smack a woman once in a while, and fuck her in the ass, she'll never behave!" hahaha
Well, I'm not sure if I agree with the smack part, but the ass part works for me![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bq Ribs]It is my understanding if you are NOT a well established Dominican just no way will they be granted a Visa to visit the USA. Now the chicas who currently have Visas won't hardly be hooking up with anyone on this board.
You know and I know the only reason them chicas are in LOVE with us is because of the contents of our wallets. Yes there are few, very, very, very, very, few exceptions.[/QUOTE]
Dude! Thats all women that look at men via their wallets! Its the Provider Protector instinct! Just like men look for dem lips and hips. Natural selection is a biatch! You expect Dominican Ladies to be different?
EXACTLY!
Your making my points! I aint looking to import a Puta! Im looking for a Lady! She cant get a visa, she definitely s not wifely material. Personally, I don't want her ass if she cant minimally meet these requirements (a job, a house, verifiable family, a bank account.) Big red flag screaming HOOOOOOOOOOO! See Below. It details why they will and wont allow a visa.
OOOOO, want to bet they wont fugg with one of us? Speak for yourself!
[url]http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/denials/denials_1361.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Alex Deuce]......Personally, I don't want her ass if she cant minimally meet these requirements (a job, a house, verifiable family, a bank account.) Big red flag screaming HOOOOOOOOOOO! See Below. It details why they will and wont allow a visa.
OOOOO, want to bet they wont fugg with one of us? Speak for yourself!
[url]http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/denials/denials_1361.html[/url][/QUOTE]
I don't need the Visa link. A chica meeting your requirements probably doesn't need or want you and also probably has no desire to leave rep dom. Seems the only ones looking to get out of rep dom are those who have none of the things you list.
Give me some reasons why a chica with a house, money in the bank, a car would leave the sunny beautiful island of the DR to be with you? This ought to be good.
How many phone numbers you got for some of them chicas living in Naco, Piatinni, Bella Vista? Not counting the putas you find online.
[QUOTE=Alex Deuce]......OOOOO, want to bet they wont fugg with one of us? Speak for yourself!........[/QUOTE]
I try to be for real when I post. I don't come on this board pretending to be the MAN and know it all. You travel to the DR just like everyone else on this board, to buy pussy........plain and simple.
Funinthesun, clear out some of your PM's por favor.
As much as I want to chime in on the current topic running, I shall refrain. I thought we ended this one last month :(
Only thing I have to say is what Devin the Dude says: "Do what the fuck you wanna do." I am not one to tell a grown man what to do so...
Just pray that the idiots in Washington pull their heads out of their asses before we are all jobless because at that point we will all be sitting around longing for the days when we could discuss even having the option of marrying putas...
[url]http://finance.yahoo.com/news/79-million-jobs-lost-many-cnnm-1248019835.html?x=0[/url]
[QUOTE=Bq Ribs]
Give me some reasons why a chica with a house, money in the bank, a car would leave the sunny beautiful island of the DR to be with you? This ought to be good.[/QUOTE]
Same reasons I get normal bitches @ 6'4 300. I gots Money, I makes Money, I got a House, I live in sunny florida and to top it off I have a personality with Game. I aint a pimp but dont test me! Dont get the love of Debaucheries fuck it up for you.
[QUOTE=Bq Ribs]
How many phone numbers you got for some of them chicas living in Naco, Piatinni, Bella Vista? Not counting the putas you find online.[/QUOTE]
The answer to your second question is 4 ( A teacher, A secretary and two federal officers) You forget, I am a government contractor and my dealings put me in numerous normal social situations despite my shitty spanish.
[QUOTE=Bq Ribs]I try to be for real when I post. I don't come on this board pretending to be the MAN and know it all. You travel to the DR just like everyone else on this board, to buy pussy........plain and simple.[/QUOTE]
No, you come as a smart azz! The question is: "why do I buy pussy?" The answer is simple: "Biatch cause I can!" What red blooded man would not? +70k estimated selling ass in the capital alone and its legal. I spend less on casas taking two a day for month than i spend on cocktails afterwork at Diamond, Tootsies and Da Lexxx in a weekend.Hell this simple than that; I AM A FREAK!
I like how you try to clean up your series of dumb comment at the end with an ignorant observation on a board about finding and buying pussy...SMDH
I may be wrong but from reading some of the reports I get a feeling some guys may be thinking....... hmmmm maybe I will bring mi novia to the states for a visit.
When you have some spare time do some reading on this site.
[url]http://dominicanstotheusa.com/forum/[/url]
[QUOTE=Bq Ribs]I may be wrong but from reading some of the reports I get a feeling some guys may be thinking....... hmmmm maybe I will bring mi novia to the states for a visit.
When you have some spare time do some reading on this site.
[url]http://dominicanstotheusa.com/forum/[/url][/QUOTE]
ROTFLMAO
Fellas, Just do you!
The experts a kill ya high er time!
No doubt in my mind. You the MAN and when I grow up I want to be just like you.
Have a nice day.........
[QUOTE=Alex Deuce]Same reasons I get normal bitches @ 6'4 300. I gots Money, I makes Money, I got a House, I live in sunny florida and to top it off I have a personality with Game. I aint a pimp but dont test me! Dont get the love of Debaucheries fuck it up for you.
The answer to your second question is 4 ( A teacher, A secretary and two federal officers)
No, you come as a smart azz! The question is: "why do I buy pussy?" The answer is simple: "Biatch cause I can!" What red blooded man would not? +70k estimated selling ass in the capital alone and its legal. I spend less on casas taking two a day for month than i spend on cocktails afterwork at Diamond, Tootsies and Da Lexxx in a weekend.Hell this simple than that; I AM A FREAK!
I like how you try to clean up your series of dumb comment at the end...[/QUOTE]
First it is near impossible to bring a chica to the USA for a visit unless she has about 200, 000 pesos in the bank, a job, and owns a house. Then Immigration may consider a visa. I have been coming here on vacation for 5 years, twice a year, last Fall I moved here permanently. Bought a house and now live with my novia. She gets up early in the morning and has my coffee ready while I read the latest in mongering. I don't do shit! All day, everyday. Nuttin' except sit on my ass and wait to be served. I have never heard any complaints because that is the way roles are played out here. My pensions pay for everything including taking care of her 3 kids. How she kept that pussy so tight is a mystery to me. Anyway, I still have pesos left over to go out 3 or 4 times a month for extra curricular activity. Bring a chica to the USA? Are you out of your friggin' mind! My chica has never had it so good, I love her dearly but having been married before to an import in the USA, let me clue you in, once Americanized, they ain't worth a shit. Live here, find a ho' who wants to retire from working on her back, and she'll love you to the end. She'll call you Papi and her King, because' all her friends are dirt poor and wondering how they will feed the kids because the Papi ran off on them. She will never leave you because you go out on the side. She has too much to lose. This is a man's world here. Living here and loving it.
[QUOTE=Bq Ribs]No doubt in my mind. You the MAN and when I grow up I want to be just like you.
Have a nice day.........[/QUOTE]
Keep ya pimp cup empty, ill fill it with the game and learnz ya!
Honestly, each Dominica is different and want different things. You just got to figure they game out and look at the big picture of what you want and what they are mentally/socially/physically able to give. Don't look for a lady in a ***** house and don't think all Dominicans are Ho's. Vast majority are not. Socially and religiously conservative and faithful on average than Americans.
Whats so damn hard understanding not wifing up a Puta?
[QUOTE=Riky Rapido]........ I don't do shit! All day, everyday. Nuttin' except sit on my ass and wait to be served.........[/QUOTE]
LMAO, you my friend are living the life........... BTW, great post.
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]Girls I've been taliking to on HI 5 and badoo in preparation for Medillin.[/QUOTE]
Damn, I get this funny feeling we won't be hearing much from you on the Sosua board once you get back. (see pics post #6231)
[QUOTE=Riky Rapido]First it is near impossible to bring a chica to the USA for a visit unless she has about 200, 000 pesos in the bank, a job, and owns a house. Then Immigration may consider a visa. I have been coming here on vacation for 5 years, twice a year, last Fall I moved here permanently. Bought a house and now live with my novia. She gets up early in the morning and has my coffee ready while I read the latest in mongering. I don't do shit! All day, everyday. Nuttin' except sit on my ass and wait to be served. I have never heard any complaints because that is the way roles are played out here. My pensions pay for everything including taking care of her 3 kids. How she kept that pussy so tight is a mystery to me. Anyway, I still have pesos left over to go out 3 or 4 times a month for extra curricular activity. Bring a chica to the USA? Are you out of your friggin' mind! My chica has never had it so good, I love her dearly but having been married before to an import in the USA, let me clue you in, once Americanized, they ain't worth a shit. Live here, find a ho' who wants to retire from working on her back, and she'll love you to the end. She'll call you Papi and her King, because' all her friends are dirt poor and wondering how they will feed the kids because the Papi ran off on them. She will never leave you because you go out on the side. She has too much to lose. This is a man's world here. Living here and loving it.[/QUOTE]Thats what i'm talking about keeping it real.A man wants to be treated like a king,respected,and fucked right.And who better to fuck you right but an ex punta who has learned to appreciate a good thing.I dont want some pretty,stuckup,dry pussy,moody chick thats always complaining.I dont want an educated christian girl from a good family.I dont care if every dude on this board has run a train on her,as long as she's been tested and trying to turn her life around im going to be her friend(never marry).Guys on this board travel the world slanging dick because they got pesos,but these girls trick to feed their kids and we look down on them when they try to change.Im going to open an ex-punta transition clinic that prepares girls for reentry to the real world.And half the guys on this board will be lining up at the door.
[QUOTE=Bq Ribs]Damn, I get this funny feeling we won't be hearing much from you on the Sosua board once you get back. (see pics post #6231)[/QUOTE]Nah Ricky Rapidos post woke me up.
He said he don't do shit but get fucked and get served.
[QUOTE=Riky Rapido]First it is near impossible to bring a chica to the USA for a visit unless she has about 200, 000 pesos in the bank, a job, and owns a house. Then Immigration may consider a visa. I have been coming here on vacation for 5 years, twice a year, last Fall I moved here permanently. Bought a house and now live with my novia. She gets up early in the morning and has my coffee ready while I read the latest in mongering. I don't do shit! All day, everyday. Nuttin' except sit on my ass and wait to be served. I have never heard any complaints because that is the way roles are played out here. My pensions pay for everything including taking care of her 3 kids. How she kept that pussy so tight is a mystery to me. Anyway, I still have pesos left over to go out 3 or 4 times a month for extra curricular activity. Bring a chica to the USA? Are you out of your friggin' mind! My chica has never had it so good, I love her dearly but having been married before to an import in the USA, let me clue you in, once Americanized, they ain't worth a shit. Live here, find a ho' who wants to retire from working on her back, and she'll love you to the end. She'll call you Papi and her King, because' all her friends are dirt poor and wondering how they will feed the kids because the Papi ran off on them. She will never leave you because you go out on the side. She has too much to lose. This is a man's world here. Living here and loving it.[/QUOTE]
This is an excellent point. I could see not bringing her to the States as an upside simply because 1. She already has a family base/support system in place, and 2. Your money goes a lot further down there, and she will know where and how to buy without getting you hit with the "gringo tax."
Granted, not every is drawing a pension, so the prospect of moving there for most at this point (including myself) is slim to none. However, I can see not wanting to be away from your novia for long periods of time, which is why most will opt to "bring her over." If a visitor's visa won't do then you might have to wife her (Fiancee Visa).
However, keep things in perspective. Plucking a girl from over there and bringing her to the States may do more damage than good. For one, she doesn't know anyone, and more than likely doesn't speak much English. Me bringing a girl here to Texas would be like dropping her off in the middle of the Amazon. And I live in a huge city! She wouldn't be out driving around on the roads because she doesn't know anything or where anything is, and also does not know the traffic laws. Leaving her at home everyday would get old very fast and eventually she'll begin to want to wander or talk with your unemployed (by choice) neighbor during the day...and seriously, are you going to go through all that trouble of bringing her over here just to have her working at McDonald's or WalMart???
So if you can afford to, it may be a good idea to set your novia up with a place on her home turf and visit as often as you can until you can eventually move there for good (which seems to be what the one guy did from Mr. Gogo's story a few post back). And get the mom, grandmother, or aunt involved. Someone that will keep her ass in check and remind her that if she fucks this up (by having other dudes in your home when you are not there) she will go from sugar to shit so fast it'll make her head spin.
Later on down the line you can bring her to the States for a visit...if only to let her see first hand how good she's got it over in her country and how fucked up things can be here. But she'll love the food and shopping, no doubt. We got sum good eat'in here in Texas!
P.S. Some of you know how huge the homes can get to be in the South. So if you can afford a $200,000 here in the South then I can only imagine what that amount fetches you in the DR. But if you are dropping that kind of money on a home in the DR then it is probably a good idea that you are living there permanently. A chica in a $200,000 in the DR would lose her damn mind and by the time you get there the whole family would be living there as if it was the freakin Taj Mahal, lol!
[QUOTE=Riky Rapido]First it is near impossible to bring a chica to the USA for a visit unless she has about 200, 000 pesos in the bank, a job, and owns a house. Then Immigration may consider a visa. I have been coming here on vacation for 5 years, twice a year, last Fall I moved here permanently. Bought a house and now live with my novia. She gets up early in the morning and has my coffee ready while I read the latest in mongering. I don't do shit! All day, everyday. Nuttin' except sit on my ass and wait to be served. I have never heard any complaints because that is the way roles are played out here. My pensions pay for everything including taking care of her 3 kids. How she kept that pussy so tight is a mystery to me. Anyway, I still have pesos left over to go out 3 or 4 times a month for extra curricular activity. Bring a chica to the USA? Are you out of your friggin' mind! My chica has never had it so good, I love her dearly but having been married before to an import in the USA, let me clue you in, once Americanized, they ain't worth a shit. Live here, find a ho' who wants to retire from working on her back, and she'll love you to the end. She'll call you Papi and her King, because' all her friends are dirt poor and wondering how they will feed the kids because the Papi ran off on them. She will never leave you because you go out on the side. She has too much to lose. This is a man's world here. Living here and loving it.[/QUOTE]
Its hard, I know FIRST SECOND & THIRD Hand but not that damn hard. The backlog is the killer and a screwed application is the death note. It has to be extremely specific and error free and most are chalked full of errors. You don't have to own a house nor have much money as verifiable ongoing employment suffices. If what you say is the case, you got a lotta broke as Dominicans in Miami and NY that caught a raft or something. Its a lie, the letter counts when congruent to the application. They check the Invitees stability to factor; Is this a reliable address to find the applicant if need to deport. They need to know you will be returning home is the key. The invitation letter must match the application. Invitees with apartments get red flagged as is not reliable addresses. Homeland Security is swamped as well as the state department they wont evaluate trash applications and they have finite to issue in a sea of millions.
Personally, i would never bring a ***** back. However,when kids are involved you got to do what is in their long term best interest unless you want them educated in DR but some are selfish and shortsighted like that. I would be living like you. Enjoying my life and all snipped up not to have to worry about kids. I got 310k left of 450k equity. Coupled with my investment, I could sell this piece and live like riley down there. Average Dominican lives of something like between 4,485 and 7,360 pesos thats like 150-200. I would yield that weekly off my shittiest investment not to mention if Social Security exist in 25 years. Hell naw! I would be doing the moving..
[QUOTE=Oakie]I finally invited her to come visit me this summer. Hey its cheaper than going down there and I know her habits well enough after all this time to figure we'd have a good time.[/QUOTE]
Can you report about how easy/hard it is to get a girl into the states for your own pleasure?
Once I was banging this ho who was waiting for a phone call from this German guy she was stringing along. The Guy wanted to fly her out to Germany for a holiday but it was learned that for her to travel she needed to have a bank account with money in it before she could even apply for a passport.
Anyway, I learned the Dominican government was making her jump through many hoops just to allow her to travel.
As a side note this girl was fun. I would be there banging her doggie while she talked to the guy about how much she loved him and could not wait to be with him. Then almost exactly one year later she was still getting calls from this guy. She told me the same guy was just here before I arrived and just got back to Germany. So I told her if that guy calls while I am with her she was going to get my dick up her cootch. Funny how I did not get any reaction from her on that.
Then sure enough the guy calls not too long after. So I ripped open her pants, pulled them and the rest of her clothes off, and I boned her through all 30 min of the conversation without any signs of protest at all. Luckily we were in the room while this went down. Sometimes I would start to banging her with force and she would look back at me with a scowl because I was giving her away on the phone. I had fun doing this and even today we have this understanding that if any guys call her while I am there she should expect the bone as long as the phone stays to her ear. She was fine with it :-)
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]Girls I've been taliking to on HI 5 and badoo in preparation for Medillin.[/QUOTE]
Medillin is on my list for next time too... I got a buddy from Bogota and he speaks highly of the girls himself.
[QUOTE=Alex Deuce]I also loose respect for them! Exactly after they finish![/QUOTE]
Having a girl that takes the initiative on her own is quite a turn on. The whole act just makes me hotter knowing I got a real uninhibited WH--- on my hands.
[QUOTE=Ehunter]Medillin is on my list for next time too... I got a buddy from Bogota and he speaks highly of the girls himself.[/QUOTE]I'm going to do a daily post selectively.
It wouldn't be appropriate to post here and the Medillin board is full of arguments.
Be looking for my posts via pm.
[QUOTE=Alex Deuce]I look at it like this; What kind a woman does not have her kids with her or her fam when divorcing while working for extended periods? The man should be working. How does he have time to take care of a 2 year old? Ever tried raisin a 2 year old boy? Its like dealing with bugs bunny on crack!
Thats always a bad sign! You never leave things of value unless you plan on returning to the holder or you dont give damn about the object and thats worse.. JMHO!
Hell, you know Game! I know your playin/tripping with fools by the way you write!
[/QUOTE]Damn that's soo true. Like I was telling Chief the other day while he was schooling me up on game about my girl, I told’em I'm mesmerize by her beauty, BUT I don't trust it! Especially while I'm 3000miles away
But yeah if I make it down there in Aug we mos definitely got to hookup.
You know us debating about should we bring a broad over to the states or not is pointless cus the reality is if you have the MONEY, DR is your oyster. You seriously can do whatever the fuck you want and get away with it. So trust and believe if you got the bread you can get the paperwork right and she'll be in the states in no time.
Now the question is how do each of us individually want to deal with theses broads and what is it that you want from a broad. Me I'm still dealing with the hoes cus what can I say, Coolie love these hoes. Now when it comes time to settle down with a main broad then best believe I'm not going to settle down with a ho. Now by all means if you want to give a ho a shot at being a housewife then by all means do you.
Treat ALL these broads from the sweethearts to the hoes like Burger King, "HAVE IT YOUR MUTHAFUCKING WAY"! If your order is fucked up take that muthfucker back or drop her ass off by the curb and go get what you paid for.
That is funny. It is a weird feeling. I felt like I had to take shit, when the doctor was doing that exam.
Prostate exam is important, prostate cancer it is a very treatable cancer if it is diagnosed early.
Penis is for liquid waste disposal, ass is for solid waste disposal. Not sure what God was thinking when he combined the liquid disposal pipe, with the make babies pipe.
Nice photos of the Colombianas. A few Colombianas told me, they enjoy anal sex. Anal sex seems to be more readily available in Colombia, I don't know for sure, just from my conversations with some Colombianas.
There are a few pay sites with many chicas from Colombia, who have webcams, many of those chicas will do just about anything on webcam, once you pay to enter their private chat, some will give out their msn messenger info, so that you can chat more with them and possibly hook with them, when you travel to Colombia.
Have fun in Locolombia. lol.
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]To each his own. But to be there laying on my back with my legs cocked, like a chic waiting to get fucked, as she tickles your shitter, takes away from me feeling like a man.
Funny story:
You know what I do for a living so we have to take annual physicals. Well this rookie is there(doctors office). He's 6'5 all muscles. He's bragging about all the special operation training he had in the Marines. He goes in smiling standing tall. An hour later he comes out walking slow with his head down. He looked like someone just stole his puppy. I asked sheepishly"what happened". He said"I got violated dog"and"you can't tell anyone about this" I say okay as he walks away taking small steps.
My turn and after 20 years they haven't got me yet. They keep saying next year and I say okay. Well the male doctor tried to be slick. He didn't even ask he just started putting on the gloves and lubbing them. I'm talking fast trying to slow him down but he is focused. I say you can do the PSA blood sample, he says thats not the most accurate way. I then say I'll do it next year and he looks at my chart and says thats not working again. He's holding up the gloved hand and I realize this joker has huge hands Damn!
My mind is working fast here, and I remember this little female doctor. So I ask him if she can do it instead. The lesser of two evils I figure.
Well she did it and I'm walking out the doctors office with my head down. I look over and the Marine was sitting under a tree shaking his head. He kept repeating"that shit wasnt right man".[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Lagocache]Ha! This reminds me of this chica from Puerto Plata that I met on Hi5. I saw a bunch of pictures of her with different gringos so I knew what she was about. Sent her a message asking for her number and she gave it without hesitation or explanation. When I asked if I could call her when I come to town, she told me she'll be waiting "mi amor." Called her on Friday, she spent that night with me in Sosua. I return to the States and she and I are chatting every day on Messenger. After two days she has an emergency and needs $300. Oh, but she loves me very much, though! After telling her up front I'm not sending her a dime because I don't know her like that, she gives up on the emergency story. 10 minutes later she's telling me she wants to get her hair and nails done, but a new outfit, and throw a birthday party for her cousin but doesn't have any money. *****, if I'm not gonna send you a dime for an "emergency" why the hell would I send you money for shit like that????? LOL
I keep telling her I know what she does for money and I'm not the only dude she talks to but she insists she has nobody. I have discussion after discussion telling her how I'd have more respect for her if she were just up front with me, but she won't do it. She insists that she loves me and wants to be with me. :yawn:
Since nobody posts pics anymore, here are pics of her. She doesn't speak any English, but if anybody wants her number I'll give it via PM. She's bony with big, perfect tits and her pussy was so tight I could barely get in there at first.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the photos, I mostly travel to Colombia, but the pic's you posted reminded me of a few Chicas I had in Sosua the one time I was there last Nov. Even though I think the girls in Colombia are a little more beautiful than the ones in the DR one thing that was great was a BBBJ was much easier to get in the DR than in Colombia.Matter of fact I almost always have to pay extra for one in Colombia while in BC and Sosua I almost always got one without even asking for it. My only problem is Spirit does not go to POP so it is a pain to go to Sosua from either SD or Santiago.
As far as the talk of bring a Chica to the USA, I think it is much better to stay with them in their own Country. From what I have heard it takes about six months before the Gringas in the USA ruin the new girl. They hate how good the new girl treats her man so they go all out to fix that.
[QUOTE=Vics Picks]
As far as the talk of bring a Chica to the USA, I think it is much better to stay with them in their own Country. From what I have heard it takes about six months before the Gringas in the USA ruin the new girl. They hate how good the new girl treats her man so they go all out to fix that.[/QUOTE]
Thats if you bring a Puta! Learn the Difference. Its beyond ignorance to say all Dominicans that mess with Gringos are *****s. Get out of the sewers before you talk.
You wanna know what happens when you bring over Putas? Look through BackPages, Craiglist or you favorite escort site around NY, Boston, Mia and Jersey (some passing for Brazillian) the faces that show up will leave you in stitches. Believe me, Normal Dominicans know the Puta's and can tell one when they see them. Dinner with my boy and his Wife is fugging Hilarious and scary at the same time. (Her damn Bros Talk to much)
The problem is the difference in the guys that are sport fugging and the guy that are filling missing sex needs. You cant get a girl from the Grocery Store or Normal social settings, your not going to get a Decent Dominica even if you speak perfect spanish.
Stop Guessing and Over Generalizing....
[QUOTE=Alex Deuce]...Believe me, Normal Dominicans know the Puta's and can tell one when they see them...[/QUOTE]That's the truth!
-Helpmann :)
[QUOTE=Alex Deuce]Thats if you bring a Puta! Learn the Difference. Its beyond ignorance to say all Dominicans that mess with Gringos are *****s. Get out of the sewers before you talk.
You wanna know what happens when you bring over Putas? Look through BackPages, Craiglist or you favorite escort site around NY, Boston, Mia and Jersey (some passing for Brazillian) the faces that show up will leave you in stitches. Believe me, Normal Dominicans know the Puta's and can tell one when they see them. Dinner with my boy and his Wife is fugging Hilarious and scary at the same time. (Her damn Bros Talk to much)
The problem is the difference in the guys that are sport fugging and the guy that are filling missing sex needs. You cant get a girl from the Grocery Store or Normal social settings, your not going to get a Decent Dominica even if you speak perfect spanish.
Stop Guessing and Over Generalizing....[/QUOTE]
Lets see what you are talking about. I said bringing a Chica from the DR. I did not say bringing a Puta. You posted this- Its beyond ignorance to say all Dominicans that mess with Gringos are *****s. Get out of the sewers before you talk. Read my post again and you will see who is Guessing and Over Generalizing
I deal with both kinds and even that I was talking about BBBJ's in DR, I thought I changed the subject to what you guys were talking about earlier.
F all women. They are all just moist holes to relieve some tension. GET MONEY! I have never heard of a man that had a problem dealing with a fat money roll.
My rules:
1.) The best woman is also the worst woman.
2.) Even your sister wants to spend your money.
3.) She would fuck another in a heartbeat.
4.) There is no woman worth wilding out about.
5.) If she gave him some pussy it's his pussy.
6.) Women outnumber men 5 to 1 so, what's the problem.
7.) If she is hanging out with you and she is cool with me I most likely already fucked her or will be fucking her in the future.
8.) Whatever you want from a broad can be negotiated.
9.) The door is always open (Coming and going!)
10.) If she is sleep or in the bathroom go in the purse and jack her. She would get you!
This applies to all women world wide. Not just American and Dominicans. ALL OF THEM!
[QUOTE=Vics Picks]Lets see what you are talking about. I said bringing a Chica from the DR. I did not say bringing a Puta. You posted this- Its beyond ignorance to say all Dominicans that mess with Gringos are *****s. Get out of the sewers before you talk. Read my post again and you will see who is Guessing and Over Generalizing
I deal with both kinds and even that I was talking about BBBJ's in DR, I thought I changed the subject to what you guys were talking about earlier.[/QUOTE]
And I said:
[QUOTE=Alex Deuce]Thats if you bring a Puta! Learn the Difference. Its beyond ignorance to say all Dominicans that mess with Gringos are *****s. Get out of the sewers before you talk[/QUOTE]
Reading is fundamental as well as comprehension. Your generalization was that all Dominica young ladies (I.E. Chicas) are susceptible to the bright lights of America and the influence of the feminist. My retort, since I must interpet The Queens English, was that the Generalization of all Dominicans (I.E.Chicas) without differentiation between Putas and non-sex workers is overstated and does not represent the available examples found in multiple relationships, interactions and communities that I and many more have seen first hand. To use the generic term of Chicas exemplifies the direct definition of the term IGNORANCE (ONE LACKING COMPLETE KNOWLEDGE OF A SUBJECT) and Generalization (attributing the actions of some to a population of all)
Now, despite your attempt to change the subject, we find a tremendouse disconnect from the underworld of Tricks n Johns to the society of "Civilized Behavior" where most live. Once you learn to differenciate, get at me we might be able to have a civilized conversation.
Negro562, Damn ! But for the most I agree! However, you got to kove rhe go gettas. At leasr they bring puzz, Game and asundry assets ti the table.
[QUOTE=Coolie High]Damn that's soo true. Like I was telling Chief the other day while he was schooling me up on game about my girl, I told’em I'm mesmerize by her beauty, BUT I don't trust it! Especially while I'm 3000miles away
But yeah if I make it down there in Aug we mos definitely got to hookup.[/QUOTE]Like I alway say, seperate the chica from her beauty and pussy and most likely you aint got shyt but a broad thats good for a fuking and an occasional meal. And that goes for most of these american chics too. A lot of us meet beautiful breezys and get mesmerized but at the end of the day she benefits and you sitting there looking broke and stupid. This is why I tell chicks in the dr and america that I want to be friends and get to know them. Fuk all that 'I luv you shyt' in the first 6 mos. Lets get to know each other without labels bc once you wear that novio label, thats when the lies come in bc they expect things from you and will lie. Lie and lie again to drain you. But when you do not have a label, expectations are whatever and in TIME you will get to know what your chica is made of. And that is universal.
I noticed a lot of chicks in america especially when I was in atl are quick to want to make your their man bc they need help with their bills and when I say I just want to be friends, they most likely run away from me bc I am not what they are looking for bc they want somebody to rush in a pay this and that. Same thing for dr honeys. Same shyt different smell. They will screw you, suck you. So called love you but if you can't get to the WU. FUCK U! And then on to the next. Its a game and you have to love it bc its played everywhere.
Mr Gogo,
What hotel allowed you to have 2 chicas?
All women are putas to some extent. It's a matter of degree. Streetwalkers and other full time hookers are at the bottom of the barrel, but there are many pay for play ladies, part timers, occasional income supplementors that lead otherwise "respectable" lives.
Back home if a guy has, or is in line to get, lots of money, "respectable" chicks will throw themselves at him and f''''k him in hopes of hooking in to economic security. Big house, big car, big company, big job - you know the deal. And yet these women marry into it and are treated with respect. They'll still f...k the chaufer or the personal trainer or the favorite waiter on the side.
Like the old joke, it's just a matter of price.
So the debate about NEVER hooking up with a puta should include her status on the ladder. Obviously wifing a streetwalker or bringing her back home would be a joke.
Having a relationship with the chica from the bank who is very selective who she occasionally f...ks for money may be a different matter. Some have to ply the streets, but some have more options.
And a Dominican chica may be more faithful than any woman from another country.
How many guys in the States can find a virgin to marry?
My 2 cents
Negro562, I was on my Iphone and my phat fingers got in the way. My statement was: I agree! However, you got to love the "go gettas." At least they bring puzzy, Game and a sundry assets to the table. In short, I love a ***** that will grind for hers. A player just got to figure how to get on her team...Lets not even talk about the bi-sexual ones......OOOOOOO Mufasa!
[QUOTE=Alex Deuce]Negro562, I was on my Iphone and my phat fingers got in the way. My statement was: I agree! However, you got to love the "go gettas." At least they bring puzzy, Game and a sundry assets to the table. In short, I love a ***** that will grind for hers. A player just got to figure how to get on her team...Lets not even talk about the bi-sexual ones......OOOOOOO Mufasa![/QUOTE]Ooh yeah no doubt. Chief said it the best to me the other day when he was like, I want a broad that BELIEVES IN ME. Not just Love me but believes in me
Now Katz we'll ask what's the difference. A woman that BELIEVES in u love you for u and only u. She's just just not in it for the economic comeup but she genually wants to be on ur team no matter what
A broad that Loves you well u can experience that everyday at Sosua. There are broads that'll make ur toes curl. But that's all she about. She ain't down with ur team. Soon ass shit goes bad she's gone
You know I'm starting to think that AD, Cheif, Mr. Gogo and few others was brought up on some old school Don Magic Juan pimp shit LMFAO
[QUOTE=Chief Justice]Like I alway say, seperate the chica from her beauty and pussy and most likely you aint got shyt but a broad thats good for a fuking and an occasional meal. And that goes for most of these american chics too. A lot of us meet beautiful breezys and get mesmerized but at the end of the day she benefits and you sitting there looking broke and stupid. This is why I tell chicks in the dr and america that I want to be friends and get to know them. Fuk all that 'I luv you shyt' in the first 6 mos. Lets get to know each other without labels bc once you wear that novio label, thats when the lies come in bc they expect things from you and will lie. Lie and lie again to drain you. But when you do not have a label, expectations are whatever and in TIME you will get to know what your chica is made of. And that is universal.
I noticed a lot of chicks in america especially when I was in atl are quick to want to make your their man bc they need help with their bills and when I say I just want to be friends, they most likely run away from me bc I am not what they are looking for bc they want somebody to rush in a pay this and that. Same thing for dr honeys. Same shyt different smell. They will screw you, suck you. So called love you but if you can't get to the WU. FUCK U! And then on to the next. Its a game and you have to love it bc its played everywhere.[/QUOTE]
The above is *****101 in a nutshell...
[QUOTE=Chief Justice]Like I alway say, seperate the chica from her beauty and pussy and most likely you aint got shyt but a broad thats good for a fuking and an occasional meal. And that goes for most of these american chics too. A lot of us meet beautiful breezys and get mesmerized but at the end of the day she benefits and you sitting there looking broke and stupid. This is why I tell chicks in the dr and america that I want to be friends and get to know them. Fuk all that 'I luv you shyt' in the first 6 mos. Lets get to know each other without labels bc once you wear that novio label, thats when the lies come in bc they expect things from you and will lie. Lie and lie again to drain you. But when you do not have a label, expectations are whatever and in TIME you will get to know what your chica is made of. And that is universal.
I noticed a lot of chicks in america especially when I was in atl are quick to want to make your their man bc they need help with their bills and when I say I just want to be friends, they most likely run away from me bc I am not what they are looking for bc they want somebody to rush in a pay this and that. Same thing for dr honeys. Same shyt different smell. They will screw you, suck you. So called love you but if you can't get to the WU. FUCK U! And then on to the next. Its a game and you have to love it bc its played everywhere.[/QUOTE]
I am a older guy than most Mongers and I thought I knew a little bit about how to play the game, but your post about telling the girls that you just want to be friends first is spot on. Thank you since that is now an addition to my game.
[QUOTE=Chief Justice]Like I alway say, seperate the chica from her beauty and pussy and most likely you aint got shyt but a broad thats good for a fuking and an occasional meal. And that goes for most of these american chics too. A lot of us meet beautiful breezys and get mesmerized but at the end of the day she benefits and you sitting there looking broke and stupid. This is why I tell chicks in the dr and america that I want to be friends and get to know them. Fuk all that 'I luv you shyt' in the first 6 mos. Lets get to know each other without labels bc once you wear that novio label, thats when the lies come in bc they expect things from you and will lie. Lie and lie again to drain you. But when you do not have a label, expectations are whatever and in TIME you will get to know what your chica is made of. And that is universal.
I noticed a lot of chicks in america especially when I was in atl are quick to want to make your their man bc they need help with their bills and when I say I just want to be friends, they most likely run away from me bc I am not what they are looking for bc they want somebody to rush in a pay this and that. Same thing for dr honeys. Same shyt different smell. They will screw you, suck you. So called love you but if you can't get to the WU. FUCK U! And then on to the next. Its a game and you have to love it bc its played everywhere.[/QUOTE]You are right, a chic in the DR will probaly give you some ass if you say you love her or want to be her friend. But most women believe in a guy riding up on a white horse and riding away with her into the sunset(romance). If you say you want to be her friend she loses this fantasy and degrades you to the "bullshit guy". Every guy she passes on the street wants to be her friend and fuck. I want her to think i'm "the one". She plays her game i play mine. By saying you want friendship your thowing your trump card away. Understand were talking about young chics that still believe in love,why not use that to your advantage?
In the states it's a totally different playing field. I dont trust none of these tricks here. We dont have the upper hand. So i play the "i just want to be friends role" that way they know i just want a piece of ass nothing else. You cant play on their need for romance here because the consequences are serious. Chics here are not going to let you out of a 'relationship" without payback.
Back in the day i could tell a chic"I'ts not you i have to find myself" and dip. That shit dont work anymore,chics want to fuck my cars up,i gotta fight her brothers,her girlfriends look at you and roll there eyes,and momma is going to church praying against you.
In the Dr you can play the romance game because we can dissappear whenever we see fit. We call the game,make our rules,then decide if we want to keep playing.
But in closing,there is nothing like seeing the excitement in a chic when she see's you walking up,that friends dont get.
i am still waiting for some of the so called know it alls, on this board to tell me where on this planet a piece of pussy is 100% absolutely free. i am ready to buy an airplane ticket to that magical shangri la land of free pussy.
i have read posts here where some mongers insist that it is impossible to have a normal girlfriend in dr. my opinion, sour grapes. some guys for whatever reason can't or are unwilling to to have a normal girlfriend in dr, therefore to make themselves feel better they will say any dr chica who has a gringo boyfriend is a puta.
i am not here to categorize and label every relationship that may exist between a dr chica and a gringo. i am not here to defend every dominican chica.
i would love to hear a conversation between a monger who believes that all dr chicas who have a gringo boyfriend are putas and one of those so called putas. i am sure the chica would respond in several ways: 1. that the ignorant monger is too dumb to learn spanish and could never have a conversation with a normal dr chica. 2. that the monger is physically unattractive and no normal chica would want to be with him. 3. that the monger is disrespectful, rude and/or exhibits other anti-social behaviors that no normal chica would tolerate.
some guys really should stay in sosewer, it is the perfect place for them.
[quote=oakie]all women are putas to some extent. it's a matter of degree. streetwalkers and other full time hookers are at the bottom of the barrel, but there are many pay for play ladies, part timers, occasional income supplementors that lead otherwise "respectable" lives.
back home if a guy has, or is in line to get, lots of money, "respectable" chicks will throw themselves at him and f''''k him in hopes of hooking in to economic security. big house, big car, big company, big job - you know the deal. and yet these women marry into it and are treated with respect. they'll still f...k the chaufer or the personal trainer or the favorite waiter on the side.
like the old joke, it's just a matter of price.
so the debate about never hooking up with a puta should include her status on the ladder. obviously wifing a streetwalker or bringing her back home would be a joke.
having a relationship with the chica from the bank who is very selective who she occasionally f...ks for money may be a different matter. some have to ply the streets, but some have more options.
and a dominican chica may be more faithful than any woman from another country.
how many guys in the states can find a virgin to marry?
my 2 cents[/quote]
[QUOTE=Too Jaded]What was it they were presenting? Were they showing their daughters in the hopes for marriage so that the daughter could go to the Big PX In The Sky and send back some financial support or was it more of a temporary accommodation and if so what were they hoping for in return? Or were they just being friendly?
I have heard of similar things happening in Thailand but there it is a marital arrangement. I believe you would tour one of the more rural villages, find the girl you like, pay the father $400 and take your new bride with you. Not exactly my style but it works for some guys who just want a nice non-westernized spouse.[/QUOTE]
You pick one, fuck her over and leave boy its "Next of Kin" you know the film with Patrick Swayze. You best not never return to DR much less the village.... They expect Marriage or the very least a substantial Dowery/user fee! Its best to pass...This is a custom found in many cultures.
[QUOTE=Jaosousa]Ho is a degrading term and reading some of these recent posts, I can see how some guys may believe it is OK to be evil with a chica, because in their minds she is just a ho, therefore they believe it is OK to abuse her. Its not even about sex, its about power and abusing another human being. Sick. One guy mentioned robbing from a chica's purse. How low can you go. If an American guy in DR steals from a chica, that guy is a total loser.[/QUOTE]I suppose some of us have an optimistic view that we can change thei world by being human, showing them something different. It's always worked for me, but I'm incurably romantic.
Truth is the world is full of putas that will try to rip you off, and yes, guys that will try to rip them off.
It's the human condition.
Count me out of that.
I find life is like a mirror - ya get back just what you give.
[quote=jaosousa]i am still waiting for some of the so called know it alls, on this board to tell me where on this planet a piece of pussy is 100% absolutely free. i am ready to buy an airplane ticket to that magical shangri la land of free pussy.
some guys really should stay in sosewer, it is the perfect place for them.[/quote]
i have seen many posts claiming there is free booty in rio, bangkok, etc. but going dining/clubbing with non-proze leads to bad booty, drama and demands for more money because familiarity breeds contempt. better to keep it business like. even dudes from sao paulo have to pay to play in rio and us even more!
i would like to do some legit [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord117][CodeWord117][/url] (wind related), i like batchata (dr slide guitar) and the dr girls back here have nice personalities. i am caught between sosua (cabriete), dr and cartegena colombia. colombia has it's attractions but the wind is perfect in cabriete. i would like to have a nice massage and a nice "monica" after a day of getting beat up by the wind, and i speak enough spanish to get by. is there any available girls in cabrete? i mean ones that would give a nice massage and some extra similar to the other stops mentioned on this site?
any recomondations? you look like a person in touch with reality, so please advise!
thanks
[QUOTE=Coolie High]Ooh yeah no doubt. Chief said it the best to me the other day when he was like, I want a broad that BELIEVES IN ME. Not just Love me but believes in me
Now Katz we'll ask what's the difference. A woman that BELIEVES in u love you for u and only u. She's just just not in it for the economic comeup but she genually wants to be on ur team no matter what
A broad that Loves you well u can experience that everyday at Sosua. There are broads that'll make ur toes curl. But that's all she about. She ain't down with ur team. Soon ass shit goes bad she's gone
You know I'm starting to think that AD, Cheif, Mr. Gogo and few others was brought up on some old school Don Magic Juan pimp shit LMFAO[/QUOTE]Way to go Coolie!
We all want the chica to see something different in us than the "average" monger. Meanwhile all of us are looking for something that makes her diiferent from the average puta.
What a f....ing mess!
But hey, that the fun in Sosua, finding out. Ya never know!
[quote=buledaddy]i have seen many posts claiming there is free booty in rio, bangkok, etc. but going dining/clubbing with non-proze leads to bad booty, drama and demands for more money because familiarity breeds contempt. better to keep it business like. even dudes from sao paulo have to pay to play in rio and us even more!
i would like to do some legit [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord117][CodeWord117][/url] (wind related), i like batchata (dr slide guitar) and the dr girls back here have nice personalities. i am caught between sosua (cabriete), dr and cartegena colombia. colombia has it's attractions but the wind is perfect in cabriete. i would like to have a nice massage and a nice "monica" after a day of getting beat up by the wind, and i speak enough spanish to get by. is there any available girls in cabrete? i mean ones that would give a nice massage and some extra similar to the other stops mentioned on this site?
any recomondations? you look like a person in touch with reality, so please advise!
thanks[/quote]
the place is called cabarete. it is only a dollar ride from sosua by public taxi, but you can find girls in cabarete, and massage too, though you will probably have more choice in sosua. staying in cabarete is a good idea if you want to stay in a vacation hotel or apartment and socialize with other non mongering tourists, because you can zip over to sosua any time you like for massage and nookie.
[quote=jaosousa]i am still waiting for some of the so called know it alls, on this board to tell me where on this planet a piece of pussy is 100% absolutely free. i am ready to buy an airplane ticket to that magical shangri la land of free pussy.
i have read posts here where some mongers insist that it is impossible to have a normal girlfriend in dr. my opinion, sour grapes. some guys for whatever reason can't or are unwilling to to have a normal girlfriend in dr, therefore to make themselves feel better they will say any dr chica who has a gringo boyfriend is a puta.
i am not here to categorize and label every relationship that may exist between a dr chica and a gringo. i am not here to defend every dominican chica.
i would love to hear a conversation between a monger who believes that all dr chicas who have a gringo boyfriend are putas and one of those so called putas. i am sure the chica would respond in several ways: 1. that the ignorant monger is too dumb to learn spanish and could never have a conversation with a normal dr chica. 2. that the monger is physically unattractive and no normal chica would want to be with him. 3. that the monger is disrespectful, rude and/or exhibits other anti-social behaviors that no normal chica would tolerate.
some guys really should stay in sosewer, it is the perfect place for them.[/quote]hay jas. i love sosua!
monger/puta is like the old joke. i'm looking for the perfect one, but why would a perfect one waste her time with me?
puta=john. i know, because i am a john. we're no better or worse than they are, hell we're actually worse because they don't pay us, we pay them! follow the money!
bottom line has nothing to do with puta designations.
all women are essentially the same. it's just that in sosua good pussy is plentiful and cheap compared to where we normally live. it could take years, if ever, to duplicate for free what we can do in one week down there. then of course we find it wasn't really free after all.
it's basic economics. long live sosua! and thank the gods it's there!
[quote=jaosousa]i am still waiting for some of the so called know it alls, on this board to tell me where on this planet a piece of pussy is 100% absolutely free. i am ready to buy an airplane ticket to that magical shangri la land of free pussy.
i have read posts here where some mongers insist that it is impossible to have a normal girlfriend in dr. my opinion, sour grapes.[/quote]
this discussion never ends. it all depends on your situation. if you are reasonably young, attractive, socially well situated, and looking for a wife and you speak a reasonable amount of spanish, then of course you can find her outside of the lowest level of society. dominicans use the word "nivel" to indicate class or social status.
however if you are an older guy and you want a relationship with a beautiful young women, there is going to have to be a quid pro quo no matter where you are.
here in the us i am currently having a very passionate affair with a beautiful african american woman who is 30 years my junior and a bit less than half my age. she is a coworker, and i knew her for nearly 3 years before the affair started a couple of months ago. she is a licensed professional, married living with her husband of ten years, and has a child with him. there is no way on earth that she can be described as a hooker.
we have a very loving and affectionate relationship that is genuine in every way, and sexually she is probably even more enthusiastic than me,
yet she has hit me up a couple of times for $100 cash to help pay her bills for childcare and professional exams.
this is the simple reality of life today. if a woman is having a relationship with you, it is usually because she sees that relationship as cost effective. it doesn't mean that she doesn't love you or care for you, but if you run out of money you can be sure that the relationship will run out of steam.
i don't resent this, because it is asking rather a lot to expect a very attractive woman to be your love interest purely for the sake of romance and nothing else. i still think i am incredibly lucky to have her.
marriage itself is a type of business contract, so guys need to be realistic and not go around with mills and boon fantasies in their heads.
OK One more try at this.
Why do some guys persist in denigrating the best market for pussy this guy has ever seen.
What's all this bullshit about calling them all putas and their families all pimps?
It's like some kind of self loathing.
When the Bounty landed in Tahiti the native girls were swimming out to meet them. Sex for trinkets.
In some cultures (Inuit), the highest honor you could give a travelling guest is your bed and your wife.
It's just cultural differences, and I for one say "Vive la difference!"
[QUOTE=Frannie].....Here in the US I am currently having a very passionate affair with a beautiful African American woman who is 30 years my junior and a bit less than half my age. She is a coworker, and I knew her for nearly 3 years before the affair started a couple of months ago. She is a licensed professional, married living with her husband of ten years, and has a child with him. There is no way on earth that she can be described as a hooker.......[/QUOTE]
You are proud to come on a puta board bragging about having an affair with a married woman living with her husband? You my friend are what I consider the scum of the earth, low life, piece of shit. I hope her husband finds out and comes in the office one day and kicks your MFing ass.
sawadee ka (hello in thai) and thanks.
the wind was always ripping every time i visited cabarete. frank reyes is a well known dominican bachatero. there are frequent concerts throughout the dom rep.
cabarete is a small beach town about 15 minutes east of sosua. there is a main road that runs through the town, with bars, restaurants, hotels, wind surfing and kite boarding schools/rental places that sit facing a fairly wide beach.
i have not been in cabarete in about three years. the last time i was there, lots of new construction of condominium complexes was ongoing.
mr gogo is a very nice guy on this board. mr gogo has a business in cabarete and would have more up to date information on cabarete. you may want to send him a pm, with any specific questions you may have.
when i used to stay in cabarete, my wingman would always get a therapeutic massage from a chica named kika, price back then was about 400 pesos for an hour. my wingman said she gave an excellent massage, with no extras, no happy endings. kika has a small massage studio in sosua and she told me she had a massage place in cabarete. i will try to find her business card, because you can call her to set up a time and place as to when it would be most convenient for you to get a massage.
i hung out at night a few times in cabarete, what i saw then, was mostly younger tourists partying at the bars that face the beach. you could easily take a taxi or small bus to sosua to find chicas. if you encounter a chica you like in sosua, get her cell number and invite her to cabarete. the chica will pay less than 100 pesos for transportation from sosua to cabarete. if you only want her for late afternoons or early evenings many chicas will be amenable to that.
la passion massage in sosua, has a webpage with many photos of the chicas who have worked there. at la passions, rooms on site (or you can take chicas out), just about everything is on the menu, except maybe anal sex.
i have seen websites for some newer condominium complexes in cabarete, that rent out nice apartments on a nightly or weekly basis. chica friendly hotels in cabarete, i don't know. there is a cabana complex about about 5 minutes from the center of cabarete. a cabana is a discreet love motel that usually costs less than $20 for a 4 hour room rental. most cabanas are clean.
there used to be an all inclusive hotel in cabarete, last time i was there it was closed. i am not sure if there are any all inclusive hotels presently in cabarete.
cabarete is about 30 minutes from puerto plata airport.
some tourist chicas go topless on the beach in cabarete.
in youtube search for cabarete, or wind surfing cabarete or kite boarding cabarete, there will be numerous videos that could give you an idea of how cabarete is.
you can buy a dominican cell at claro for 500 pesos ($13 us).
years ago i was interested in going to cartagena, colombia. from what i read cartagena in august gets filled up with italian mongers and the chica prices go up. there are some nice condo and apartment rentals in cartagena. supposedly very hot and muggy in cartagena.
santa marta, colombia appears to have some very nice beaches, not sure how it is for windsurfing. san andres, colombia supposedly has very nice beaches.
los roques, venezuela also supposedly has very nice beaches.
any questions just ask.
[quote=buledaddy]i have seen many posts claiming there is free booty in rio, bangkok, etc. but going dining/clubbing with non-proze leads to bad booty, drama and demands for more money because familiarity breeds contempt. better to keep it business like. even dudes from sao paulo have to pay to play in rio and us even more!
i would like to do some legit [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord117][CodeWord117][/url] (wind related), i like batchata (dr slide guitar) and the dr girls back here have nice personalities. i am caught between sosua (cabriete), dr and cartegena colombia. colombia has it's attractions but the wind is perfect in cabriete. i would like to have a nice massage and a nice "monica" after a day of getting beat up by the wind, and i speak enough spanish to get by. is there any available girls in cabrete? i mean ones that would give a nice massage and some extra similar to the other stops mentioned on this site?
any recomondations? you look like a person in touch with reality, so please advise!
thanks[/quote]
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]You are right, a chic in the DR will probaly give you some ass if you say you love her or want to be her friend. But most women believe in a guy riding up on a white horse and riding away with her into the sunset(romance). If you say you want to be her friend she loses this fantasy and degrades you to the "bullshit guy". Every guy she passes on the street wants to be her friend and fuck. I want her to think I'm "the one". She plays her game I play mine. By saying you want friendship your thowing your trump card away. Understand were talking about young chics that still believe in love, why not use that to your advantage?
In the states it's a totally different playing field. I don't trust none of these tricks here. We don't have the upper hand. So I play the "I just want to be friends role" that way they know I just want a piece of ass nothing else. You can't play on their need for romance here because the consequences are serious. Chics here are not going to let you out of a 'relationship" without payback.
Back in the day I could tell a chic"I'ts not you I have to find myself" and dip. That shit don't work anymore, chics want to fuck my cars up, I have to fight her brothers, her girlfriends look at you and roll there eyes, and momma is going to church praying against you.
In the Dr you can play the romance game because we can dissappear whenever we see fit. We call the game, make our rules, then decide if we want to keep playing.
But in closing, there is nothing like seeing the excitement in a chic when she see's you walking up, that friends don't get.[/QUOTE]So true, I agree.
[QUOTE=Too Jaded]What was it they were presenting? Were they showing their daughters in the hopes for marriage so that the daughter could go to the Big PX In The Sky and send back some financial support or was it more of a temporary accommodation and if so what were they hoping for in return? Or were they just being friendly?
I have heard of similar things happening in Thailand but there it is a marital arrangement. I believe you would tour one of the more rural villages, find the girl you like, pay the father $400 and take your new bride with you. Not exactly my style but it works for some guys who just want a nice non-westernized spouse.[/QUOTE]That story sounds like BS to me.
[QUOTE=BuleDaddy]Any recomondations? please advise!
Thanks[/QUOTE]Search for cabarete kite surf in youtube and you will find videos. This one is entitled Kite Boarding in Cabarete Dominican Republic: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tSPKruxF8s[/url]
Another one entitled Cabaret 2008 from youtube: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5dxaMzK3Dk&feature=related[/url]
[QUOTE=Frannie]Here in the US I am currently having a very passionate affair with a beautiful African American woman who is 30 years my junior and a bit less than half my age. She is a coworker, and I knew her for nearly 3 years before the affair started a couple of months ago. She is a licensed professional, married living with her husband of ten years, and has a child with him. There is no way on earth that she can be described as a hooker.[/QUOTE]Hold up! Where's the ref! Time out! Did u really just say that your girl that youur dealing with can't be consider a hoe although she is married, and is living with her spouse with kids while she’s fucking you. GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE! If she's not a W***E than what is!
When the husband finds out I hope he smack the shit out that hoe. Even if the husband did some foul shit her doing that ain't right. There's a proper way to do everything and that shit ain't it
[QUOTE=Frannie]This discussion never ends. It all depends on your situation. If you are reasonably young, attractive, socially well situated, and looking for a wife and you speak a reasonable amount of Spanish, then of course you can find her outside of the lowest level of society. Dominicans use the word "nivel" to indicate class or social status.
However if you are an older guy and you want a relationship with a beautiful young women, there is going to have to be a quid pro quo no matter where you are.
Here in the US I am currently having a very passionate affair with a beautiful African American woman who is 30 years my junior and a bit less than half my age. She is a coworker, and I knew her for nearly 3 years before the affair started a couple of months ago. She is a licensed professional, married living with her husband of ten years, and has a child with him. There is no way on earth that she can be described as a hooker.
We have a very loving and affectionate relationship that is genuine in every way, and sexually she is probably even more enthusiastic than me,
YET she has hit me up a couple of times for $100 cash to help pay her bills for childcare and professional exams.
This is the simple reality of life today. If a woman is having a relationship with you, it is usually because she sees that relationship as cost effective. It doesn't mean that she doesn't love you or care for you, but if you run out of money you can be sure that the relationship will run out of steam.
I don't resent this, because it is asking rather a lot to expect a very attractive woman to be your love interest purely for the sake of romance and nothing else. I still think I am incredibly lucky to have her.
Marriage itself is a type of business contract, so guys need to be realistic and not go around with Mills and Boon fantasies in their heads.[/QUOTE]I'm alot younger than you, and I know not to get myself in bullshit. You travel to the DR and Haiti banging chics, and I have no problem with that. But when a guy who supposedly has many more years of expirience than me choose's to risk his employment and safety, not to mention adding to the destruction of a family, to his resume for a piece of ass I take issue with that.
And to say she isn't attracted to you for romantic reasons makes you a trick. Whats the difference between a girl in the DR asking for child care expenses and one in your workplace asking for child care expences? All I'm saying is keep the playing on the playing field because the last thing you need is her husband waiting in the bushes for you to come home.
Here in the States, super good looking guys, famous guys and guys in positions of power will get free pussy thrown at them on a frequent basis.
The average American guy will have to spend some money on a normal attractive American chica to get sex from her (buying her flowers, taking her out to eat, etc).
If an American guy marries an American woman and that American guy decides to totally stop spending any money on his wife, more than likely that wife will say bye. (same for a normal American girlfriend)
I would never say all American woman who marry American men are putas. I would never say that All American women who date American men are putas. Without being able to know how every American woman truly thinks, if I made such a statement, I would be a total ******* and it would be very insulting to many guys who have American wives, American girlfriends or American daughters.
Some guys on this board believe it is OK to state as fact that all Dominican chicas who may go out with an American are Putas.
It is an insult to me and it is an insult to all the Dominican chicas who have gone out with me. It is also a purely stupid statement coming from guys who have never met the Dominican chicas I have dated and do not how these chicas truly think.
Frannie, you dating a married woman, I am in no position to make a judgment. Maybe the married woman is married to the biggest monger on the planet, maybe her husband is boning so many other women, that she is getting no attention from him. Maybe she caught him having numerous affairs and maybe he told her to go and have an affair. Some married guys enjoy seeing their wives have sex with other guys. I don't know the particulars of your situation so I would not pass judgment.
Maybe the married woman has a connection with you, that she no longer has with her husband.
God bless some of the guys on this board, they believe they are god's gift to women and that women should be lining up for the privilege of having sex with them for free, both here in the U.S. and in the Dom Rep.
[QUOTE=Frannie]This discussion never ends. It all depends on your situation. If you are reasonably young, attractive, socially well situated, and looking for a wife and you speak a reasonable amount of Spanish, then of course you can find her outside of the lowest level of society. Dominicans use the word "nivel" to indicate class or social status.
However if you are an older guy and you want a relationship with a beautiful young women, there is going to have to be a quid pro quo no matter where you are.
Here in the US I am currently having a very passionate affair with a beautiful African American woman who is 30 years my junior and a bit less than half my age. She is a coworker, and I knew her for nearly 3 years before the affair started a couple of months ago. She is a licensed professional, married living with her husband of ten years, and has a child with him. There is no way on earth that she can be described as a hooker.
We have a very loving and affectionate relationship that is genuine in every way, and sexually she is probably even more enthusiastic than me, YET she has hit me up a couple of times for $100 cash to help pay her bills for childcare and professional exams.
This is the simple reality of life today. If a woman is having a relationship with you, it is usually because she sees that relationship as cost effective. It doesn't mean that she doesn't love you or care for you, but if you run out of money you can be sure that the relationship will run out of steam.
I don't resent this, because it is asking rather a lot to expect a very attractive woman to be your love interest purely for the sake of romance and nothing else. I still think I am incredibly lucky to have her.
Marriage itself is a type of business contract, so guys need to be realistic and not go around with Mills and Boon fantasies in their heads.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bq Ribs]You are proud to come on a puta board bragging about having an affair with a married woman living with her husband? You my friend are what I consider the scum of the earth, low life, piece of shit. I hope her husband finds out and comes in the office one day and kicks your MFing ass.[/QUOTE]
Your on a monger site calling someone scum. You my friend are a tool. If a married women is giving it up not a thing wrong if taking it. A slice of bread taken from a cut loaf is never missed! For the other guy continue to enjoy. Pussy is pussy and the only really free pussy out there is married pussy and it is good!
[QUOTE=Freetime]Your on a monger site calling someone scum. You my friend are a tool. If a married women is giving it up not a thing wrong if taking it. A slice of bread taken from a cut loaf is never missed! For the other guy continue to enjoy. Pussy is pussy and the only really free pussy out there is married pussy and it is good![/QUOTE]
I don't mind being a tool. I just won't be a home wrecker. Too much pussy in this world to deal with married women.
I heard that there are Russian girls working in Sosua/Cabarete. If anyone can provide contact info, I would really appreciate it.
[QUOTE=Bq Ribs]I don't mind being a tool. I just won't be a home wrecker. Too much pussy in this world to deal with married women.[/QUOTE]
If the pussy is being given your not the problem for taking it. The home was all ready broken if it is getten given out. You sound like one of the lossers that has an ex or two (may be more) out there that was giving it up on you while you were married. Just a bit bitter are you. In the USA the best pussy is from married women, they don't want to be wined & dinned, they are not looking for a wedding ring all they want is sex. Win/Win.
[QUOTE=Freetime]......You sound like one of the lossers that has an ex or two (may be more) out there that was giving it up on you while you were married. Just a bit bitter are you.........[/QUOTE]
Yet another mind reader.
Jao, you seem to be a sweet guy in that you like to answer everyones questions in every thread. Certainly helpful and if thats your thing (which itseems to be) enjoy. But, did'nt your mother teach you not to suffer fools!?!. The guys an idiot and just trying to stir it up - fine, not the first and not the last but you give these fools legs their posts dont justify. Just nod, smile and move on - much the way you would when seeing a retard on the street...
[QUOTE=Jaosousa]How is it that a young guy can live over 90% of the time in a foreign country without having a job in that Country? (Independently wealthy, Lottery winner, mommy and daddy paying the bills, drug dealer?). How can a rich young guy only have 1000 pesos ($27 US)?
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[QUOTE=Freetime]If the pussy is being given your not the problem for taking it. The home was all ready broken if it is getten given out. You sound like one of the lossers that has an ex or two (may be more) out there that was giving it up on you while you were married. Just a bit bitter are you. In the USA the best pussy is from married women, they don't want to be wined & dinned, they are not looking for a wedding ring all they want is sex. Win/Win.[/QUOTE]Hey Freetime shouldn't you be in manila, or AC somewhere. Why are u even on the Sosua board. Yeah I know cus u can but seriously I've never seen or heard u post any meaniful thing on this board so who gives a fuck what u think
Ain't nothing worse than a donkey that hasn't contribute to zero info come outta no where and start dissing a Senior Monger that's been providing useful info in DR.
Let me clue u in since I suspect u have to much free time on ur hands. The rule goes like this. If u haven't posted any "useful information" on this Sosua/DR board before DO NOT come on here and disrespect a monger(especially a senior monger)that's been putting in work and knowledge for this board. Ur suppose to know your role, sip on your cup of joe while reading and more importantly SHUT THE FUCK UP!
We don't come to your neck of the woods and talk dumb shit to a high ranking member on your board and we want the same courtesy. The issue at hand is between two senior mongers that's been putting in work in the DR board. They have the right to speak there mind. Last thing we need is for u to join in and post your bullshit. Soo either post some knowledge that we all can use or get the fuck off our board and take your bullshit back to Manila somewhere
[QUOTE=Freetime]If the pussy is being given your not the problem for taking it. The home was all ready broken if it is getten given out. [/QUOTE]
You have quite a twisted and selfish mentality. Bottom line is, two wrongs do not make a right. Correct, you did not cause the problem in HER marriage but you would contribute or compound the problems elsewhere.
This is the kind of stuff most 17yo kids need to be counseled on before they progress in life. Most likely you are well over 17 which means your philosophies are already set up like dried concrete.
So if you KNOW she is married, it is an act of selfish stupidity thinking it is OK to proceed. Yes, she was stupid enough to open herself up to you, but why do you have to be stupid enough to grab it. All you do is follow her over the cliff.
What your actually doing is helping to F-up the personalities of the innocent children that may be involved. Which in the long run, your helping to F-up the well being of society. Now most likely you don’t care as you only care about what happens to you directly and not anyone else. Here in lies the real problem, it is called being selfish.
If you’re not worried about the harm that may come your way on behalf of the husband then just keep it up. If you’re ever seriously injured your never going to get my sympathy. That’s just karma coming around to get you.
So tell me Carnac, you going to guess I am one of those x-married types you accuse others of being? Well your wrong there too. I will turn the table on you though. I am guessing your part of a family where these types of shenanigans are commonplace.
I agree.
But words are powerful and to me it is important to fight stereotypes wherever they may exist. If a guy doesn't know history he is bound to repeat it.
I am not a religious fanatic or a holier than thou type. In the United States many prostitutes have been murdered by serial killers and others. Maybe the guys who killed those prostitutes rationalized killing those women by saying they were just hos.
Many examples throughout history where a particular group of people got a label attached to them and after that is was seen as OK to kill and abuse that group of people.
I personally prefer the word pro to describe what some guys refer to as a ho.
The word ho is derived from a word that begins with the letter W. The owner of this site has determined that he will not allow the W word to appear on his site, which I have no problem with.
[QUOTE=Rjsss212]Jao, you seem to be a sweet guy in that you like to answer everyones questions in every thread. Certainly helpful and if thats your thing (which itseems to be) enjoy. But, did'nt your mother teach you not to suffer fools!?!. The guys an idiot and just trying to stir it up - fine, not the first and not the last but you give these fools legs their posts dont justify. Just nod, smile and move on - much the way you would when seeing a retard on the street...[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ehunter]You have quite a twisted and selfish mentality. Bottom line is, two wrongs do not make a right. Correct, you did not cause the problem in HER marriage but you would contribute or compound the problems elsewhere.
This is the kind of stuff most 17yo kids need to be counseled on before they progress in life. Most likely you are well over 17 which means your philosophies are already set up like dried concrete.
So if you KNOW she is married, it is an act of selfish stupidity thinking it is OK to proceed. Yes, she was stupid enough to open herself up to you, but why do you have to be stupid enough to grab it. All you do is follow her over the cliff.
What your actually doing is helping to F-up the personalities of the innocent children that may be involved. Which in the long run, your helping to F-up the well being of society. Now most likely you don’t care as you only care about what happens to you directly and not anyone else. Here in lies the real problem, it is called being selfish.
If you’re not worried about the harm that may come your way on behalf of the husband then just keep it up. If you’re ever seriously injured your never going to get my sympathy. That’s just karma coming around to get you.
So tell me Carnac, you going to guess I am one of those x-married types you accuse others of being? Well your wrong there too. I will turn the table on you though. I am guessing your part of a family where these types of shenanigans are commonplace.[/QUOTE]You were likely part of some chuch that got in to your head. That is what churches do, they are all cults. If you don't believe in that crap (I don't) marriage or the idea of marriage is a joke any ways. Your on a monger site dumb ass, half the guys here that monger are married.
Hello. I am not but I like fucking hot married women when I can. Peace
[QUOTE=Ehunter]You have quite a twisted and selfish mentality. Bottom line is, two wrongs do not make a right. Correct, you did not cause the problem in HER marriage but you would contribute or compound the problems elsewhere.
This is the kind of stuff most 17yo kids need to be counseled on before they progress in life. Most likely you are well over 17 which means your philosophies are already set up like dried concrete.
So if you KNOW she is married, it is an act of selfish stupidity thinking it is OK to proceed. Yes, she was stupid enough to open herself up to you, but why do you have to be stupid enough to grab it. All you do is follow her over the cliff.
What your actually doing is helping to F-up the personalities of the innocent children that may be involved. Which in the long run, your helping to F-up the well being of society. Now most likely you don’t care as you only care about what happens to you directly and not anyone else. Here in lies the real problem, it is called being selfish.
If you’re not worried about the harm that may come your way on behalf of the husband then just keep it up. If you’re ever seriously injured your never going to get my sympathy. That’s just karma coming around to get you.
So tell me Carnac, you going to guess I am one of those x-married types you accuse others of being? Well your wrong there too. I will turn the table on you though. I am guessing your part of a family where these types of shenanigans are commonplace.[/QUOTE]Great post EHunter.
You get my vote for post of the year.
To bad Carnac will never understand it.
And he has the nerve to call you a "dumbass".
[QUOTE=Jaosousa]How is it that a young guy can live over 90% of the time in a foreign country without having a job in that Country? (Independently wealthy, Lottery winner, mommy and daddy paying the bills, drug dealer?). How can a rich young guy only have 1000 pesos ($27 US)?[/quote]Back in October 2009 you posted that you were living in Haiti. Nine months later you post that you have been living in Sosua for a year.
Damn Gents lets move on to the fun. Jao, I know Ayyypapi, like most of us all his post arent 100% informative. PM him as I do and he'll give you whatever you need and if you need a good wingman he's your guy. Tried and proven. And like me has his own business and anyone in that same position will tell you they can have $25 cash to their name today and $60k tommorow. It s the ebb and flow of biz.
we have a couple guys who feel they can jump on this board and say stupid shit. you will be called on it. as coolie high said if your not contributing info here, stfu.
ayyiipapi, i like what you said about fucked up wing men. but the club beatdown has more to it that your not telling. you wanted to talk shit when you saw the bill instead of negotiating a settlement, those guys in black don't play with drunks. lesson learned handle your alcohol. period.
carnac, 36 posts in three years. you want to jump over here to defend banging married women in the states, when this is an international forum. go back to asia for your ladyboys.
frannie, you don't get a pass on this one. this is a prime example when you have two fucked up individuals. one guy starts some bullshit then leaves the other one hanging. switch out syndrome.
i guess frannie can't get to his computer because he is to busy peeking out the window looking for the husband.
[QUOTE=Sawassdee] Damn Gents lets move on to the fun. Jao, I know Ayyypapi, like most of us all his post arent 100% informative. PM him as I do and he'll give you whatever you need and if you need a good wingman he's your guy. Tried and proven. And like me has his own business and anyone in that same position will tell you they can have $25 cash to their name today and $60k tommorow. It s the ebb and flow of biz.[/QUOTE]Thanks,
You have confirmed that the other guy is a real life monger. Reading his posts, I had a suspicion that he was some teenager sitting in the basement of his Mom's house, writing bogus reports.
I will take Rjsss212 excellent advice: Just nod, smile and move on.
[QUOTE=Freetime]...Mongers are no more likely to have your back and are just as judgemental as any one as seen by your and some other posters words of wisdom, even is they are lacking any real wisdom. Would I trust a monger, not unless the trust is earned and not if they are a half witted judgement fool with two faces lol.[/QUOTE]On this forum, it doesn't take too long to figure out the men from the boys, the heroes from the trolls, and the coolheaded from the flamers.
-Helpmann :)
[QUOTE=Jaosousa]
This is the International Sex Guide. not the International Ho Guide, not the International Puta Guide, this sight is about all things Sex Internationally, which includes pay for play and sex with with non-pro chicas.
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Thanks, Jao.
It is interesting that the point of my original post that some people found so shockingly immoral was that you really can't distinguish between amateurs and pros, because even when relationships are based primarily on sentiment and lust, there is an expectation that the man will reimburse expenses, give gifts etc. Often the only difference is that a pro is playing a short game, but an amateur is playing a long game with potentially much greater rewards.
[I]"It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single man in possession of a good fortune must be in want of a wife.
However little known the feelings or views of such a man may be on his first entering a neighbourhood, this truth is so well fixed in the minds of the surrounding families, that he is considered as the rightful property of some one or other of their daughters."[/I]
These are the opening lines of Pride and Prejudice by Jane Austen, but couldn't they equally describe the arrival of a tourist in Sosua?
In a large workplace in the USA, extramarital affairs between marrieds are not particularly uncommon. Sometimes these affairs lead to a dissolution of a marriage and the formation of a new bond, but often they just provide a discreet welcome relief for a marriage that has gotten sexually boring or inactive and help to keep the family home together. When it comes to sport fucking, there is hardly anything purer than two people who both equally want to fuck each other.
I think that in any mainstream political or social forum the idea that men who pay for sex are deeply shocked at the idea of extramarital affairs would be met with bewilderment. That is not to say that such sentiments are not sincere, but they are probably more self revelatory than the posters intended.
[QUOTE=Helpmann]On this forum, it doesn't take too long to figure out the men from the boys, the heroes from the trolls, and the coolheaded from the flamers.
-Helpmann :)[/QUOTE]
Agree those guys that call them selfs "high ranking" or "senior monger" are all ways the biggest joke. They give themselfs self appointed ranks and it comes off as funny. Some guys think they are king of the boards and they do not like the fact they the boards are open and free, there are no kings here and we all have the same rank lol. Now in real life there are those of us that fuck other peoples wifes and there are those that have wifes being fucked by other people; I will stick to the group I am in. Peace
[QUOTE=Rjsss212] Just nod, smile and move on ...[/QUOTE]Very nice photos you posted on the Jamaica thread, thanks for sharing.
[QUOTE=Freetime]Agree those guys that call them selfs "high ranking" or "senior monger" are all ways the biggest joke. They give themselfs self appointed ranks and it comes off as funny. Some guys think they are king of the boards and they do not like the fact they the boards are open and free, there are no kings here and we all have the same rank lol. Now in real life there are those of us that fuck other peoples wifes and there are those that have wifes being fucked by other people; I will stick to the group I am in. Peace[/QUOTE]You do realize that when helpmann spoke of trolls and flamers he was talking about you! Stupid muthafucker! What you think when he was talking heroes you were in that category. Get the fuck out of here!.
When you come to this board you give respect and you get respect back. You haven't given it and you wonder why no one on here could gives a fuck about what you say. You recently come back on this board already with just 34 post and then spend the next 5 post disrespecting people like your mother never raised you better. And not a single informative post from you.
But I'm done talking to you. I thought you were at least a mammal, but I was wrong. Your a snake so please carry-on with your bullshit rambling. Cus that's what donkeys, I mean snakes do
Now back to the matter at hand. PUSSY! What's the word in DR. Has anyone been to Sosua lately. Like to start the new dialogue to once again what we ALL can agree to and love, even Freetime b***h ass(unless as Mr. Gogo suggest which I don't doubt that you really do love ladyboys then in that case never mind), Tities!
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo] But the club beatdown has more to it that your not telling. [/QUOTE]I have been reading the posts on this site everyday for at least the last three years and I have never seen another post where a monger said he got beat up by bouncers in the Dominican Republic.
When ayyypapi wrote a post mentioning my mother, at that moment if I could have reached through the computer screen and grabbed his neck with my hands, it would not have been a pretty site.
I am tranquil now and I feel bad that I wasted the time of other mongers with my posts concerning ayyypapi, for that I apologize to other mongers on this board.
For ayyypapi, I wish him well and I hope he has a long and happy mongering career.
[QUOTE=Helpmann]On this forum, it doesn't take too long to figure out the men from the boys, the heroes from the trolls, and the coolheaded from the flamers.
-Helpmann :)[/QUOTE]Some guys know the difference between being kinky with a chica where no body get hurts and other guys who are just very angry and can and will physically hurt a chica.
I may sound like a prude when I suggest toning down the use of certain words. There may be some angry dudes on this board, who may read posts where certain words are used and those posts may give validation to a certain guy's way of thinking, that it is ok to get violent on a chica.
A murder of a puta in Dom Rep by a Gringo, would have consequences for all mongers who visit DR. My humble opinion.
Sorry to interrupt the B. S. With a trivial and unrelated topic, but, somebody told me that there was a lot of fine a$$ for the taking in a small town on the North Coast of the Dominican Republic. Places with names like La Passion, New Garden Hotel, Hotel Europa, Club X, Merengue Club, Classico's come to mind. There's a beach to relax and recover from long romps in the sack with women who flow like wine with the passion of a wild-eyed siren. Anybody got any news?
Because I'm on my damn way and if all the dudes are talking about each others Bitchassness, then there's going to be a helluvalot more women for me! I'll see y'all Thursday night. I'll be the smilin brotha with the bald head and the giddy, newbie Puerto Rican wingman on my side. If you see me, hit me up. I'll tell you some stories!
Yippie Kiyay,
Rodeo
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo][QUOTE=Sawassdee]Here we go again with the stupid shit. You just threw your boy under the bus, then said he is a standup guy.[/QUOTE]"like most of us all posting arent 100% informative". I don't keyboard bully. I look forward to crossing paths soon in our travels, hopefully we can enjoy a presidente.
Till then continue to pass the beer, whiskey and chicas.
[QUOTE=Jaosousa]I have been reading the posts on this site everyday for at least the last three years and I have never seen another post where a monger said he got beat up by bouncers in the Dominican Republic.
When ayyypapi wrote a post mentioning my mother, at that moment if I could have reached through the computer screen and grabbed his neck with my hands, it would not have been a pretty site.
I am tranquil now and I feel bad that I wasted the time of other mongers with my posts concerning ayyypapi, for that I apologize to other mongers on this board.
For ayyypapi, I wish him well and I hope he has a long and happy mongering career.[/QUOTE]Jao,
Yo no need to apologize! You felt you needed to speak on somethings you felt that was out of pocketed/out of line and Katz respect that. That why I love this board. If something doesn't sound right you will get called out. *
Disagreements will come and go but never feel that you wasted time speaking on things you feel needed to be address on this board.
[QUOTE=Coolie High]You do realize that when helpmann spoke of trolls and flamers he was talking about you! Stupid muthafucker! What you think when he was talking heroes you were in that category. Get the fuck out of here!.
When you come to this board you give respect and you get respect back. You haven't given it and you wonder why no one on here could gives a fuck about what you say. You recently come back on this board already with just 34 post and then spend the next 5 post disrespecting people like your mother never raised you better. And not a single informative post from you.
But I'm done talking to you. I thought you were at least a mammal, but I was wrong. Your a snake so please carry-on with your bullshit rambling. Cus that's what donkeys, I mean snakes do
Now back to the matter at hand. PUSSY! What's the word in DR. Has anyone been to Sosua lately. Like to start the new dialogue to once again what we ALL can agree to and love, even Freetime b***h ass(unless as Mr. Gogo suggest which I don't doubt that you really do love ladyboys then in that case never mind), Tities![/QUOTE]Cool your not cool at all to your "Get the fuck out of here!" One more time, you don't tell me or any other posters what to do. You are a bit slow lol. What a tool you counted my post lol. You real don't have a life at all do you. Well other then this board that you think you are the king of. It must hurt to find out the one thing you had going is not real. Your not the king! You did count my post, your life must be borring to do that and if one reads your post and thinks "coolheaded" well see what you posted above and it is easy to see helpman could not have been posting about you or he does not know what "coolheaded" means. Peace
[QUOTE=Jaosousa]I have been reading the posts on this site everyday for at least the last three years and I have never seen another post where a monger said he got beat up by bouncers in the Dominican Republic.[/QUOTE]Hell, I was a newbie monger in 2009, but I didn't have to learn that when you're out of your neighborhood playing with skilled pros, bouncers, pimps etc on THEIR own ground, you always watch your OWN back.
We all have that innate feeling when we are partying - Am I in control here? Do I have enough dinero to get me out of a jam? (an extra 100 tucked in my sock etc)
Hey it's their bar, and if you are overcharged, you made a bad choice, or a bad imperssion when you walked in. They make the rules, and you can either make like some consumer advocate, and try and set the whoe place straight (bad choice) or you can pull out the emergency stash, or moto concho to the ATM and then get your ass outa there! (good choice)
So you make a bad choice and get ripped off once in a while, its part of the game. Better than finishing up in the alley. You don't hafta go back There's lots more bars.
Where I drink, they know me. I can leave my beer on the bar tell 'em I'll be back in 5, and hop a motoconcho to the ATM. Hell, I can even check bar down the street, and they know I'll be back.
If you're smart, you make the manager/bouncer your first new friend, then the putas.
In that order!
[QUOTE=Jaosousa]Thanks,
I will take Rjsss212 excellent advice: Just nod, smile and move on.[/QUOTE]
Excellent advice anywhere, and maybe most excellent here.
I've certainly "stepped in it" enough times myself that I know the smell, the feel of it squishing up between my toes, and the way my neighbors' noses wrinkle in disgust. And yet I can't resist jumping into those suspect mud puddles, either.
All that any of us can know of any of you - unless we meet you somewhere on a punting expedition - is your screen name and whatever we read in your posts. If you've made a lot of good reports that make sense and are informative, my hat's off to you! If I see you get in a flame-war occasionally, I'll wait for the smoke to clear. If [i]all[/i] I've seen you post are flames and insults, oh well....
NOW, how about punting in So'sewer? I'm afraid I was only in town mornings, for the scuba diving, last month.
I am thinking about breaking my Sousa cherry sometime during the 1st 2 weeks in August. I will be flying from Philadelphia to POP. I can book my trip pretty much at the last minute, if necessary.
Anybody have suggestions on a cheap flight? Trying to package a flight and hotel is hard b/c you fly into POP, but stay in Sousa (correct?).
Where should I stay? I want to be able to walk to the beach and to the bars/clubs for chicas. BTW, I speak only a little Spanish.
I will not be renting a car b/c I will be happy with the beach/chicas for entertainment and don't want the p.i.t.a. of the crazy driving.
Suggestions, please.
Thanks!
Prices are ridiculously high during the vacation season. Why rent a car? For the cost of renting a car and insurance, you could have an extra daily piece of puta. Take buses, guagau's, and taxis. Just watch your wallet when a chica slids up to you in a public transport. I have been pick pocketed twice of phone and a little money. Otherwise than that, I have never felt unsafe here. Check into the New Garden, if no room there, they have a nice counterpart 100 yards away. The beaches are in walking distance or you can take a motar, motor bike, and the operator will take you any place. Ask the price first. Oh! Continental flies only on a Tuesday and Thursday. Check on this. Flight is direct and lands midday. I have lived here, not in Sosua, for nearly a year and see owning a car as a pain in the ass. Not only that, they drive crazy here. The food is good in Sosua, and so is the pussy. You might look into the Colibri at the other end of Calle Pisante. Almost across the street from Passions. This a good motel with lots of space and pool. No hassles with guests.
Good luck.
For package deals to Sosua you would have to stay in a hotel that is not chica friendly. Orbitz, travelocity, expedia usually have the Casa Marina All inclusive hotel listed in an air/hotel package.
If you want to go for 7 nights, use Orbitz code: 200entertain, to take $200 off the air/hotel package.
Casa Marina is a decent all inclusive hotel in Sosua, it is a 5 minute walk to the bars where the chicas hang out. If you choose the casa marina, you would have to rent a second room somewhere for your sexual adventures.
Hotel Orchidee and Rockys have rooms for about $25-$30 per night.
In the past I paid about $500 for an air/hotel package from New York to Puerto Plata airport (pop) staying at the casa marina hotel.
If you don't want to do a package deal, then book your airfare and make reservations at one of the chica friendly hotels, new garden, terra linda and there are others. There are also condo rentals available in Sosua.
[QUOTE=Ath Trainer]I am thinking about breaking my Sousa cherry sometime during the 1st 2 weeks in August. I will be flying from Philadelphia to POP. I can book my trip pretty much at the last minute, if necessary.
Anybody have suggestions on a cheap flight? Trying to package a flight and hotel is hard b/c you fly into POP, but stay in Sousa (correct?).
Where should I stay? I want to be able to walk to the beach and to the bars/clubs for chicas. BTW, I speak only a little Spanish.
I will not be renting a car b/c I will be happy with the beach/chicas for entertainment and don't want the p.i.t.a. of the crazy driving.
Suggestions, please.
Thanks![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sawassdee][QUOTE=Mr Gogo]"like most of us all posting arent 100% informative". I don't keyboard bully. I look forward to crossing paths soon in our travels, hopefully we can enjoy a presidente.
Till then continue to pass the beer, whiskey and chicas.[/QUOTE]Yeah if you buying the first one, and keep your friend with the bad Karma away from me.
[QUOTE=Jaosousa]If you ever meet Mr Gogo in person, you will learn that he is one of the nicest guys you could hang out with. As a wingman Mr Gogo is well aware of any and all security issues.
Bouncers only getting paid in tips in DR? I have never seen it. I have seen very few people give bouncers tips in DR. You can tip a bouncer if you want, but my experiences in DR, the bouncers are getting paid by the owner of the bar/club.
I haven't been to Sosua in a while, so I could be wrong.[/QUOTE]There are bouncers and doormen in sosua that I do tip. But it allows me vip status. Front row tables, no pat downs, doors opened for me, chic info, etc
One dude is this bad ass karate expert that used to do security at latinos. Sometimes I invite him up to sosua and let him hang with me. When we depart I slide him a 1k note and say its for his kids. So yes I do tip.
For a package deal staying at an all inclusive hotel in Sosua you will pay more in August and you will pay more if you travel alone (per person price if you travel with a wingman will be less for a package deal). Prices drop in September and October.
You may might to search for 7 night package deals from Newark (ewr airport code) to Puerto Plata (pop airport code) in orbitz. Midweek departures are usually cheaper. Promo code 200entertain will take $200 off a 7 night package deal on Orbitz.
I looked on Orbitz for the first two weeks in August, package prices are almost double, of the prices in September and October. I wouldn't pay the package price they want for August.
For August, your best bet might be to look for the lowest airfare and then book a room in a chica friendly hotel in Sosua.
All the well discussed chica friendly hotels on this board, are less than a 10 minute walk to the beach.
You don't need a car in Sosua. Sosua is very small, just about everything is a five minute walk away.
Puerto Plata Airport is less than 15 minutes away from Sosua.
[QUOTE=Ath Trainer]I am thinking about breaking my Sousa cherry sometime during the 1st 2 weeks in August. I will be flying from Philadelphia to POP. I can book my trip pretty much at the last minute, if necessary.
Anybody have suggestions on a cheap flight? Trying to package a flight and hotel is hard b/c you fly into POP, but stay in Sousa (correct?).
Where should I stay? I want to be able to walk to the beach and to the bars/clubs for chicas. BTW, I speak only a little Spanish.
I will not be renting a car b/c I will be happy with the beach/chicas for entertainment and don't want the p.i.t.a. of the crazy driving.
Suggestions, please.
Thanks![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jaosousa]If you ever meet Mr Gogo in person, you will learn that he is one of the nicest guys you could hang out with. As a wingman Mr Gogo is well aware of any and all security issues.......[/QUOTE]
You mentioned in another post let's get back to business of chica chasing. I agree. I have only personally met three guys on this board, Jao, Boricua, and Joe Roma...oops plus Panman. All of these guys would bend over backwards to help you out. Jao is the friendliest person I have ever met, sometimes just too nice and caring.
I have never met Mr Gogo but exchanged a few messages with him and he is cool with me.
If we reflect the chaos began from posters who have never contributed nothing so let's get back to normal.
I liked the old days when we chatted about the best place to eat or even buy the cheapest ham and cheese sandwich.
Today, sunny and hot in SD. Chicas sexy as usual. Presidente is cold and the Brugal you still need to pour the first few drops on the ground for el muero (sp).
Peace..........
[QUOTE=Jaosousa]For package deals to Sosua you would have to stay in a hotel that is not chica friendly. Orbitz, travelocity, expedia usually have the Casa Marina All inclusive hotel listed in an air/hotel package.
If you want to go for 7 nights, use Orbitz code: 200entertain, to take $200 off the air/hotel package.
Casa Marina is a decent all inclusive hotel in Sosua, it is a 5 minute walk to the bars where the chicas hang out. If you choose the casa marina, you would have to rent a second room somewhere for your sexual adventures.
Hotel Orchidee and Rockys have rooms for about $25-$30 per night.
In the past I paid about $500 for an air/hotel package from New York to Puerto Plata airport (pop) staying at the casa marina hotel.
If you don't want to do a package deal, then book your airfare and make reservations at one of the chica friendly hotels, new garden, terra linda and there are others. There are also condo rentals available in Sosua.[/QUOTE]
Many of the Sosua Hotels are now $20, and $25 w/ A/C. All of them are suffering and discounting. The same for the all inclusives, Playa Dorado had the big boys in to try and see what they can do to help spur business. Deals everywhere, so before you book on a web-site, call.
[QUOTE=Oakie]If you're smart, you make the manager/bouncer your first new friend, then the putas.[/QUOTE]Agreed in Sosua its all about who you know. You should get to know the managers and bouncers whenever possible. Damn near ever time I went into Classicos I slid the bouncer some bread and told him to cover my ass just in case. Taking care of and befriending the right people goes along way down there
[QUOTE=Freetime]
Cool your not cool at all to your "Get the fuck out of here! " One more time, you don't tell me or any other posters what to do. You are a bit slow LOL. What a tool you counted my post LOL. You real don't have a life at all do you. Well other then this board that you think you are the king of. It must hurt to find out the one thing you had going is not real. Your not the king! You did count my post, your life must be borring to do that and if one reads your post and thinks "coolheaded" well see what you posted above and it is easy to see helpman could not have been posting about you or he does not know what "coolheaded" means. Peace[/QUOTE]My Man! Right on Q for another bullshit post. Carry-on! LMFAO
thanks coolie high.
i have a woman in my family who was the victim of a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]. i tried to comfort her many times after the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] when she would cry for hours.
i had a brazilian girlfriend, when she was young her father came home one day and shot her mother in front of her and her brothers and sisters, and then he killed himself in front of them.
i had an african american girlfriend in new york, her sister was shot in the neck by the boyfriend. she was paralyzed from the neck down after the shooting and died a year later.
i had a puerto rican girlfriend when i lived in california, her mother was killed by one of the cubans who castro released from his prisons, who came to the u.s. during the mariel boat-lift.
not all dominican chicas are sweet and innocent. for me, if a chica really pisses me off, it is just best for me to walk away and calm down.
[quote=coolie high]jao,
yo no need to apologize! you felt you needed to speak on somethings you felt that was out of pocketed/out of line and katz respect that. that why i love this board. if something doesn't sound right you will get called out. *
disagreements will come and go but never feel that you wasted time speaking on things you feel needed to be address on this board.[/quote]
[quote=ath trainer]i am thinking about breaking my sousa cherry sometime during the 1st 2 weeks in august. i will be flying from philadelphia to pop. i can book my trip pretty much at the last minute, if necessary.
anybody have suggestions on a cheap flight? trying to package a flight and hotel is hard b/c you fly into pop, but stay in sousa (correct?).
where should i stay? i want to be able to walk to the beach and to the bars/clubs for chicas. btw, i speak only a little spanish.
i will not be renting a car b/c i will be happy with the beach/chicas for entertainment and don't want the p.i.t.a. of the crazy driving.
suggestions, please.
thanks![/quote]i'm in phila and i've been 2x. if you like the safe girls in your face all day night.
blackbeard. went there my 1st trip good but i like sosua more my speed. more open different than bb. new garden is cool and the teralinda is a nice spot girl friend and very nice.
[QUOTE=Jaosousa]Sawadee Ka (hello in thai) [/QUOTE]Make sure you change that to sawasdee "khrap" before you hit the Land of Smiles or people will think you are hitting for the other team. Khrap is used by males while kha is used by females at the end of a phrase to show politeness or that you have good home training.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Make sure you change that to sawasdee "khrap" before you hit the Land of Smiles or people will think you are hitting for the other team. Khrap is used by males while kha is used by females at the end of a phrase to show politeness or that you have good home training.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I remember a few words in thai.
Wuk way, supposedly means dick head in thai. I went to school with some thai guys and they taught me some words.
Those guys are judges, prosecutors and generals in the army in thailand now. Rich guys whose parents could afford to have them study in the U.S. The Thai Military paid for some of the other guys.
They were good in kick boxing.
I have done that too. Exited a bar or casa with an open bar tab, in DR and went to an ATM machine. The banco popular ATM in Sosua, is one minute from Classicos on a moto. There is a security guy standing near that ATM machine late at night.
I remember one time in Santo Domingo, I exited coppa discoteca (I had an open bar tab) and I took a taxi to get some chica at her house. I was gone for an hour. I got back to coppa ordered more drinks with the chica, no problem.
[QUOTE=Oakie]Hell, I was a newbie monger in 2009, but I didn't have to learn that when you're out of your neighborhood playing with skilled pros, bouncers, pimps etc on THEIR own ground, you always watch your OWN back.
We all have that innate feeling when we are partying - Am I in control here? Do I have enough dinero to get me out of a jam? (an extra 100 tucked in my sock etc)
Hey it's their bar, and if you are overcharged, you made a bad choice, or a bad imperssion when you walked in. They make the rules, and you can either make like some consumer advocate, and try and set the whoe place straight (bad choice) or you can pull out the emergency stash, or moto concho to the ATM and then get your ass outa there! (good choice)
So you make a bad choice and get ripped off once in a while, its part of the game. Better than finishing up in the alley. You don't hafta go back There's lots more bars.
Where I drink, they know me. I can leave my beer on the bar tell 'em I'll be back in 5, and hop a motoconcho to the ATM. Hell, I can even check bar down the street, and they know I'll be back.
If you're smart, you make the manager/bouncer your first new friend, then the putas.
In that order![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Frannie]Thanks, Jao.
It is interesting that the point of my original post that some people found so shockingly immoral was that you really can't distinguish between amateurs and pros, because even when relationships are based primarily on sentiment and lust, there is an expectation that the man will reimburse expenses, give gifts etc. Often the only difference is that a pro is playing a short game, but an amateur is playing a long game with potentially much greater rewards.
[I]"It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single man in possession of a good fortune must be in want of a wife.
However little known the feelings or views of such a man may be on his first entering a neighbourhood, this truth is so well fixed in the minds of the surrounding families, that he is considered as the rightful property of some one or other of their daughters."[/I]
These are the opening lines of Pride and Prejudice by Jane Austen, but couldn't they equally describe the arrival of a tourist in Sosua?
In a large workplace in the USA, extramarital affairs between marrieds are not particularly uncommon. Sometimes these affairs lead to a dissolution of a marriage and the formation of a new bond, but often they just provide a discreet welcome relief for a marriage that has gotten sexually boring or inactive and help to keep the family home together. When it comes to sport fucking, there is hardly anything purer than two people who both equally want to fuck each other.
I think that in any mainstream political or social forum the idea that men who pay for sex are deeply shocked at the idea of extramarital affairs would be met with bewilderment. That is not to say that such sentiments are not sincere, but they are probably more self revelatory than the posters intended.[/QUOTE]
A brilliant post. It got me googling for quotes. I couldn't find anything that would be an appropriate continuation of this line of commentary, but at least I stumbled on an appropriate biblical reading for next Sunday's sermon.
"Yet she increased her whorings, remembering the days of her youth, when she played the wh0re in the land of Egypt 20 and lusted after her paramours there, whose members were like those of donkeys, and whose emission was like that of stallions. 21 Thus you longed for the lewdness of your youth, when the Egyptians fondled your bosom and caressed your young breasts."
A reading from the Book of Ezekiel. Let us meditate on these images.
[QUOTE=Jaosousa]I have done that too. Exited a bar or casa with an open bar tab, in DR and went to an ATM machine. The banco popular ATM in Sosua, is one minute from Classicos on a moto. There is a security guy standing near that ATM machine late at night.
I remember one time in Santo Domingo, I exited coppa discoteca (I had an open bar tab) and I took a taxi to get some chica at her house. I was gone for an hour. I got back to coppa ordered more drinks with the chica, no problem.[/QUOTE]There's many simple things that a newbie can learn, to make his trip enjoyable, comfortable, and yes, even safer than home.
I said before, first find your happy zone, hotel, bars, motoconcho guys, come back to the same places, and build familiarity there, and spend the bulk of your budget there. Its amazing all the value added services you get when they know they'll be getting most of your business. They'll take care of you like family. There are couple of motoconcho guys that have been around for ever, and are more or less attached to the bar. They come in and always a big welcome. You can take off with them anytime to the ATM, or your other friendly bar to check out the action, and no worries about an open bar tab. I usually have two going at the same time. In Sosua they always know my routine.
And yes, (more to the point here) the chicas see all this and want to be part of it. Hell if he knows i'm waiting for my chica to show up, one over-zealous manager will tell the putas to move on, stop bugging me for cigarettes. Hey. I tell him, chill out, it's OK, I like the attention while I'm waiting.
I see gringos wandering around in different bars with attitude, arguing price with barristas or chicas, or others with that deer in the headlights look, and I feel sorry for them.
Their week is so much inferior to mine, but I'll bet when all is tallied up, we spend about the same.
[QUOTE=Frannie]These are the opening lines of Pride and Prejudice by Jane Austen, but couldn't they equally describe the arrival of a tourist in Sosua?
In a large workplace in the USA, extramarital affairs between marrieds are not particularly uncommon. Sometimes these affairs lead to a dissolution of a marriage and the formation of a new bond, but often they just provide a discreet welcome relief for a marriage that has gotten sexually boring or inactive and help to keep the family home together. When it comes to sport fucking, there is hardly anything purer than two people who both equally want to fuck each other.[/QUOTE]Adultery is the glue that holds marriages together. It sounds good on paper or in a fairy tale to be with only one person the rest of one's life, but realistically something like that would drive most people fucking crazy.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Adultery is the glue that holds marriages together. It sounds good on paper or in a fairy tale to be with only one person the rest of one's life, but realistically something like that would drive most people fucking crazy.[/QUOTE]Adultery is the glue that holds marriges together? Therein lies the problem, people tend to look outside of their marriages for answers.
I've never been married and never will. Because I'm honest with myself. I like new pussy so why fool myself and act like one is enough. Plus I got to much shit to give anybody half, yeah I'm a selfish MF. I view marriage as a sacred bond between two commited people. I've also seen first hand from both parents, who had multiple marriages, the destruction divorce has. Were talking about being broke down emotionally, financially, and mentally.
I look at marriage as a lock on the door. If someone wants to be with you when the door is always open to leave, thats more telling of the relationship you have.
I pass married guys every night when I get off work. They stay in the parking lot trying to strike up a conversation with anyone that will listen. They hate to go home, they are stuck.
My best friend asked last week to stay in one of my vacant rooms. I told him I would pay for him to stay in a hotel for a couple days. I NEVER get in peoples marriage. You will always regret it. Because when they work it out they look at you as the one who interfeared.
A few years ago I went to the strip club with a married friend of mine. He got 200usd out of the atm to go to a hotel with a stripper. The next day his wife called and said I'm no longer welcomed in their home because I tricked her husband into getting money for MY strippers.
Stay out of other peoples marriage, its nothing but trouble when you get involved. If someone is trying to get you involved, it's a setup.
Frannie I came down on you hard because you have many years on this earth and I feel you should have know better. Especially after you come across here as a very educated individual. I guess you feel entitled. Sometimes the smartest guys lack basic common sense. You appear to be a non confontational guy, and I like that about you. We will continue to debate, and for the record I have no I'll will toward anybody here.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Make sure you change that to sawasdee "khrap" before you hit the Land of Smiles or people will think you are hitting for the other team. Khrap is used by males while kha is used by females at the end of a phrase to show politeness or that you have good home training.[/QUOTE]I have never been to Thailand, when I start to learn a foreign language, I always remember the bad words first. I na Ma, may mean FU in thai, lol.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Adultery is the glue that holds marriages together. It sounds good on paper or in a fairy tale to be with only one person the rest of one's life, but realistically something like that would drive most people fucking crazy.[/QUOTE]Also don't forget that paying for sex is illegal in almost all US states, thus narrowing the ethical options other than crossing a border or flying overseas.
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]Adultery is the glue that holds marriges together? Therein lies the problem, people tend to look outside of their marriages for answers.
... I view marriage as a sacred bond between two commited people. ...[/QUOTE]
What is it about men who've never been married being more reverent of the marital bond than those who have actually been married?
I'm married and my wife sent me to Sosua on my birthday last month. I came home and showed her pictures of the girls I was with and told her of all of my exploits. Now THAT is the glue that holds my marriage together. :-D
[QUOTE=Lagocache]What is it about men who've never been married being more reverent of the marital bond than those who have actually been married?
I'm married and my wife sent me to Sosua on my birthday last month. I came home and showed her pictures of the girls I was with and told her of all of my exploits. Now THAT is the glue that holds my marriage together. :-D[/QUOTE]
Did your wife show you her pictures from your time away?
[QUOTE=Negro562]Did your wife show you her pictures from your time away?[/QUOTE]
Yup. Would you like me to share with the board?
[QUOTE=Lagocache]Yup. Would you like me to share with the board?[/QUOTE]So let me get this straight while your wife let u go to Sosua and do ur thing she also does her thing and then yaw come back together and share pics or ur sexual escapades like everything is all good. Sounds like something I saw out of an HBO Real Sex series. I can see how the conversation went down
"And look honey in this pix you can see that I was getting head with a condom on so as you can see I practice safe sex while I was in Sosua. Hubby that's soo nice here's a pix of me and the mail man bending me over the hood of ur car *in the garage. If you look closely you'll see the magnum xl condom on the hood of the car as well. Aaww ur the greatest wife a man could ever have. Love You"! LMFAO
[QUOTE=Coolie High]So let me get this straight while your wife let u go to Sosua and do ur thing she also does her thing and then yaw come back together and share pics or ur sexual escapades like everything is all good. Sounds like something I saw out of an HBO Real Sex series. I can see how the conversation went down
"And look honey in this pix you can see that I was getting head with a condom on so as you can see I practice safe sex while I was in Sosua. Hubby that's soo nice here's a pix of me and the mail man bending me over the hood of ur car *in the garage. If you look closely you'll see the magnum xl condom on the hood of the car as well. Aaww ur the greatest wife a man could ever have. Love You"! LMFAO[/QUOTE]
You Stupid!
ROFLMAO~
[QUOTE=Negro562]Did your wife show you her pictures from your time away?[/QUOTE]
That's why my wife goes with me and takes the pictures for me. Nothing but constant 3-somes. Aint nothing like a bi-sexual Latina wife. Shit sometimes Im the one that should be jealous some chicas really dig being with her more than me. But I gotz the loot they understand that. Dudes I meet sometime say wow you brought your wife your my hero and Im like no man my wife is your hero. Hey to each his own what I have works for me. I get to have my cake and eat it too. but you can be sure that I treat my wife as well as I can how many dudes can roll with thier wives on the hunt. She actually makes good choices in chicas too, being Latina she can see through a lot of the bullshit some chicas may try to pull. We both have the same taste in chicas too, so that helps. Anyway to all the Single guys, Married, Couples, enjoy yourselves, life goes by quick. Its all about connecting for positive pussy experiences.
Peace.
Has anyone ever been to the Hospitals in the DR (more specifcally, the ones in Puerto Plata)? I ask because I'm just curious what they are like as far as setup and operation.
A chica I talk to from time to time went to the Hospital with her cousin who had a fever. At first the aunt was there, but once the aunt returned she had to go be with her cousin all night. To me it seemed as if they were doing 24hr rotating guard shifts or "watch standing" (for ex-military heads) for the cousin. Is this done because if no one is with the cousin then she runs the risk of being neglected treatment in the hospital? Here in the States most of us just drop their asses off (family members) and expect that they will be well taken care of by the hospital staff (or risk being sued).
Also, I know fevers are not contagious, but whatever is causing the fever could be. Most of us are not going to rack up unnecessary medical bills over a fever. Most people I know (family and friends in the States) just stay at home until it passes unless it becomes severe. This DR chica lives with a lot of youngins in her household (her kids, sisters kids, prima's kids, Tia's kids, etc.). Having the cousin go stay in the hospital a few days for a fever seems like a knee-jerk reaction to me, but is it (Dominican) wisdom that it is better for the sick person not to be in the house so as not to infect everyone else in the home? Or is treatment there cheap enough to where they can go to the hospital for every little thing? (I don't say this last part to sound petty. It is just that the Aunt was sick once and they went to the hospital. They were there no more than two hours, lol).
[QUOTE=Coolie High]So let me get this straight while your wife let u go to Sosua and do ur thing she also does her thing and then yaw come back together and share pics or ur sexual escapades like everything is all good. Sounds like something I saw out of an HBO Real Sex series. I can see how the conversation went down
"And look honey in this pix you can see that I was getting head with a condom on so as you can see I practice safe sex while I was in Sosua. Hubby that's soo nice here's a pix of me and the mail man bending me over the hood of ur car *in the garage. If you look closely you'll see the magnum xl condom on the hood of the car as well. Aaww ur the greatest wife a man could ever have. Love You"! LMFAO[/QUOTE]
LOL I was just being facetious. My wife isn't into stuff like that. I've told her she can do stuff on the side since she allows me to but she thinks it's uglier for women to sleep around but normal for men. She was home with the kids while I was away.
[QUOTE=Coolie High]So let me get this straight while your wife let u go to Sosua and do ur thing she also does her thing and then yaw come back together and share pics or ur sexual escapades like everything is all good. Sounds like something I saw out of an HBO Real Sex series. I can see how the conversation went down
"And look honey in this pix you can see that I was getting head with a condom on so as you can see I practice safe sex while I was in Sosua. Hubby that's soo nice here's a pix of me and the mail man bending me over the hood of ur car *in the garage. If you look closely you'll see the magnum xl condom on the hood of the car as well. Aaww ur the greatest wife a man could ever have. Love You"! LMFAO[/QUOTE]LOL, that is funny.
[QUOTE=SavePros321]Has anyone ever been to the Hospitals in the DR (more specifcally, the ones in Puerto Plata)? I ask because I'm just curious what they are like as far as setup and operation.
A chica I talk to from time to time went to the Hospital with her cousin who had a fever. At first the aunt was there, but once the aunt returned she had to go be with her cousin all night. To me it seemed as if they were doing 24hr rotating guard shifts or "watch standing" (for ex-military heads) for the cousin. Is this done because if no one is with the cousin then she runs the risk of being neglected treatment in the hospital? Here in the States most of us just drop their asses off (family members) and expect that they will be well taken care of by the hospital staff (or risk being sued).
Also, I know fevers are not contagious, but whatever is causing the fever could be. Most of us are not going to rack up unnecessary medical bills over a fever. Most people I know (family and friends in the States) just stay at home until it passes unless it becomes severe. This DR chica lives with a lot of youngins in her household (her kids, sisters kids, prima's kids, Tia's kids, etc.). Having the cousin go stay in the hospital a few days for a fever seems like a knee-jerk reaction to me, but is it (Dominican) wisdom that it is better for the sick person not to be in the house so as not to infect everyone else in the home? Or is treatment there cheap enough to where they can go to the hospital for every little thing? (I don't say this last part to sound petty. It is just that the Aunt was sick once and they went to the hospital. They were there no more than two hours, lol).[/QUOTE]
UPDATE: Through PM's I am Finding that it is mostly just customary for a family member to stay with someone in the hospital full time. From what people have been telling me the care is pretty good despite having to wait for long periods of time before you can be seen.
[QUOTE=SavePros321]Has anyone ever been to the Hospitals in the DR (more specifcally, the ones in Puerto Plata)? [/QUOTE]Some people pay for health insurance in DR and the insurance will pay for the hospital stay.
Tropical country with tropical diseases. Dengue exists in DR and has resulted in deaths in the DR. Intestinal parasites are common.
Frequent power outages in some communities will effect refrigeration. During power outages there may be no running water.
Some women from the United States go to DR to get cosmetic surgery, breast implants, liposuction etc., price is usually 1/3 what the cost would be in U.S.
I know one successful Doctor here in New York who studied medicine in DR. There are many doctors in the US who studied medicine in the DR.
Makes no sense to me why the DR government doesn't do more with solar power and ethanol from sugar cane.
[QUOTE=TeamHorny]That's why my wife goes with me and takes the pictures for me. Nothing but constant 3-somes. Aint nothing like a bi-sexual Latina wife. Shit sometimes Im the one that should be jealous some chicas really dig being with her more than me. But I gotz the loot they understand that. Dudes I meet sometime say wow you brought your wife your my hero and Im like no man my wife is your hero. Hey to each his own what I have works for me. I get to have my cake and eat it too. but you can be sure that I treat my wife as well as I can how many dudes can roll with thier wives on the hunt. She actually makes good choices in chicas too, being Latina she can see through a lot of the bullshit some chicas may try to pull. We both have the same taste in chicas too, so that helps. Anyway to all the Single guys, Married, Couples, enjoy yourselves, life goes by quick. Its all about connecting for positive pussy experiences.
Peace.[/QUOTE]My mind needs to know.
How many years into your marriage did you and your wife start exploring?
Whose idea was it and was it accepted easily?
Negatives and positives?
I've had bi girlfriends and seeing two girls loving is an amazing expirience.
The was they take their time,and the natural passion women have is exciting.
Was your wife bi when you first got married?
Do you find most Dominican women are receptive to this?
Is your wife allowed other men, or is she just into women?
[QUOTE=TeamHorny]That's why my wife goes with me and takes the pictures for me. Nothing but constant 3-somes. Aint nothing like a bi-sexual Latina wife. Shit sometimes Im the one that should be jealous some chicas really dig being with her more than me. but you can be sure that I treat my wife as well as I can how many dudes can roll with thier wives on the hunt. [/QUOTE]
So that's why it's TEAM Horny. You are one EXTREMELY fortunate dude, as long as your wife lets you have some on the side while she's enjoying herself with "some's" other side!
[QUOTE=Lagocache]LOL I was just being facetious. My wife isn't into stuff like that. I've told her she can do stuff on the side since she allows me to but she thinks it's uglier for women to sleep around but normal for men. She was home with the kids while I was away.[/QUOTE]Ooh ok! Now that's a loving lasting relationship for that ass. While you're in Sosua she's taking care of the kids. Does your wife has a sister. I'm serious.
[QUOTE=Jaosousa]That story sounds like BS to me.[/QUOTE]
It may sound that way, but it's not. I know of one person who actually did it. Why do you think that Russians have mail order brides but think it completely implausible that you can go to the villages outside Korat and negotiate a marriage with a little stipend to the family to help them support themselves?
I also discussed it with some of my Thai girlfriends back when I was in BKK.
Ultimately it doesn't really matter and is OT. I was just wondering if the context was similar here.
[QUOTE=SavePros321]Has anyone ever been to the Hospitals in the DR (more specifcally, the ones in Puerto Plata)? I ask because I'm just curious what they are like as far as setup and operation.
A chica I talk to from time to time went to the Hospital with her cousin who had a fever. At first the aunt was there, but once the aunt returned she had to go be with her cousin all night. To me it seemed as if they were doing 24hr rotating guard shifts or "watch standing" (for ex-military heads) for the cousin. Is this done because if no one is with the cousin then she runs the risk of being neglected treatment in the hospital? Here in the States most of us just drop their asses off (family members) and expect that they will be well taken care of by the hospital staff (or risk being sued).
Also, I know fevers are not contagious, but whatever is causing the fever could be. Most of us are not going to rack up unnecessary medical bills over a fever. Most people I know (family and friends in the States) just stay at home until it passes unless it becomes severe. This DR chica lives with a lot of youngins in her household (her kids, sisters kids, prima's kids, Tia's kids, etc.). Having the cousin go stay in the hospital a few days for a fever seems like a knee-jerk reaction to me, but is it (Dominican) wisdom that it is better for the sick person not to be in the house so as not to infect everyone else in the home? Or is treatment there cheap enough to where they can go to the hospital for every little thing? (I don't say this last part to sound petty. It is just that the Aunt was sick once and they went to the hospital. They were there no more than two hours, lol).[/QUOTE]
Dude- Been living here a lot of years and it's usually kids that go for hospital stays with the fever. If she was in the hospital with her cousin for the overnight stay, that is common because they usually stay in the hospital with the family member to act as a type of nurse because the tending staff is so small. But, usually when it is a fever thing they either go and get a shot or go get hooked up to an IV overnight. It is common.
Also, it depends on the fever they got. Dengue (1 week or more hospital stay), Febrie Tyfo (Typhoid fever for me and you) (3 days or they send you home with the ampilicin coctail), Some other fevers require hospital stays but usually it's the shot and head home. Pray to God it's not the Fibre Tyfo because that shit is pretty rough. I caught that and I had a small hospital stay but was out the game for almost 2 months. It really drops you immune system.
I don't know Russia and I don't know Thailand. I have been to many parts of the Dom Rep. I know many guys who monger in Dom Rep. I have never heard of a such story.
The story is, some older gringos pull into some small Dominican village and all the families are there to welcome the old gringos, and the families have lined up their young daughters for the old gringos. (try getting a group of Dominicans to do something in unison, like showing up all at the same time at the same location, at the same hour, for free). Not to mention that there are some very religious people in DR. That story makes it look like Dominicans are savages who would offer their daughters away to some old gringos who just show up in the village, for free.
Maybe it could be a nighttime movie on Cinemax (a/k/a skinamax) or a good story for Penthouse forums. I don't see any basis in reality in that story.
When I wrote this story is BS, your words: "It may sound that way, but it's not."
I may be wrong. How many trips into the campo in the DR have you made?
Prove me wrong, please. I am sure any monger who goes to the DR would love to go to a village where the townspeople offer their young daughters to old gringos for free.
[QUOTE=Too Jaded]It may sound that way, but it's not. I know of one person who actually did it. Why do you think that Russians have mail order brides but think it completely implausible that you can go to the villages outside Korat and negotiate a marriage with a little stipend to the family to help them support themselves?
I also discussed it with some of my Thai girlfriends back when I was in BKK.
Ultimately it doesn't really matter and is OT. I was just wondering if the context was similar here.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jaosousa]Some people pay for health insurance in DR and the insurance will pay for the hospital stay.
Tropical country with tropical diseases. Dengue exists in DR and has resulted in deaths in the DR. Intestinal parasites are common.
Frequent power outages in some communities will effect refrigeration. During power outages there may be no running water.
[/QUOTE]
Jao, you hit the nail on the head as always.
Sometimes when I talk to her they have no electricity, and then it comes back on later in the day or at night. I ask her if her food is still good because of this and she always says yes. From my experience with hurricanes we were always taught to leave the fridge closed for as much as possible when the power goes out to keep the food from spoiling. Maybe they are applying this principle.
Also it has been raining a lot in Puerto Plata, and she sometimes complains about mesquitoes.
[QUOTE=Negro562]
Also, it depends on the fever they got. Dengue (1 week or more hospital stay), Febrie Tyfo (Typhoid fever for me and you) (3 days or they send you home with the ampilicin coctail), Some other fevers require hospital stays but usually it's the shot and head home. Pray to God it's not the Fibre Tyfo because that shit is pretty rough. I caught that and I had a small hospital stay but was out the game for almost 2 months. It really drops you immune system.[/QUOTE]
Is there anything they can do as far as immunizations? Not sure if there even is such for Dengue (I know there is for typhoid).
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]
I've had bi girlfriends and seeing two girls loving is an amazing expirience.[/QUOTE]Agreed! There's nothing better then to have two females passionately kiss while your waiting to figure out when to jump in like your playing double douch. Didn't think it was even possible to find females in DR that are bi but talkin to a senior member recently he has assured me that there's no shortage of bi-females
So when I return I'ma hit the Sosua campaign trail and find two ladies thall let me have a real 3some sexual extravaganza.
[QUOTE=Westy]..........6. How's October, weather-wise? I know it's near the end of hurricane season........[/QUOTE]
This is the only one I can help you with. I wouldn't be too concerned about hurricanes on the north coast. You may get a lot of rain as a result of a hurricane hitting the south coast but that is usally about it.
Actually hurrican season is a good time to go because most times you will find the airline prices are at their lowest.
[QUOTE=Coolie High]Agreed! There's nothing better then to have two females passionately kiss while your waiting to figure out when to jump in like your playing double douch. Didn't think it was even possible to find females in DR that are bi but talkin to a senior member recently he has assured me that there's no shortage of bi-females
So when I return I'ma hit the Sosua campaign trail and find two ladies thall let me have a real 3some sexual extravaganza.[/QUOTE]Women make love slow, men make love fast.
Pour a drink, kick back and let them take their time. If you jump in to soon you wont get the full show. You have to take away the threat of you running up and poking one of them. They have to think it's about them.
They are great teachers.
To see a girl start at the other girls heel, and lick up the backside of her leg as it's up in the air. Then kiss the inside of her thighs, making the other woman gyrate and moan with antisapation. Then to see the girl grab the others girls head, and hump it as she comes. After she cums good they will kiss and cuddle. Then they will realize you are still there, and signal for you to join.
Iv'e walked up to bi chics that are together and offerd 40usd just to watch. But i tell them i want a two hour show. Half the time they let me join in, but i'm cool either way. It's like watching a forbidden pleasure.
[QUOTE=Alex Deuce]She only stopped the bouncer to protect her gravy train. [/QUOTE]That is too funny, LOL.
Just got back from the longest trip I've taken to Sosua. First time back since December. Random, general observations:
Stayed at New Garden. I'll post more details in the Sosua Hotels thread, but I have to give kudos to NG. It seems they've stepped it up quite a bit. The "Miss New Garden. July" pagent was hilarious. The BBQ Buffet afterwards was good too. I'm definitely going to plan my next trip around that contest. The next one is August 14. They had several buffet dinners available on different nights which was really convenient for the large party I was part of. The restaurant seems to have improved. Jennie has the office in order. They've updated several rooms in the "old wing" and working on more. And apparently digital cable has made its way to Sosua. So the cable offering (and wireless connections) is improved at NG and throughout Sosua.
Even the puta barnacles that hang around the pool are better.
The overall talent level is down. The upper echelon has thinned out quite a bit. A lot of the familiar faces from the last 2-3 years or so aren't around, but there are a lot of new chicks. The "middle class" is respectable, but there are quite a few uglies running around. Because of this. Plus the overall downturn in gringo traffic. Prices are down (good for us). Classicos isn't even worth going into except Thurs, Fri, and Sat. Lot of university chicas on Friday and Saturday. I hate to see what's going to happen when school gets back in session.
Funny. One slow night I was in Classicos kinda early and the boogah percentage was really high. And the DJ started rocking "Ice, Ice Baby" much to the delight of the boogahs on the dance floor and I thought I was in the third circle of hell.
As an aside: I didn't know the bartenders at El Flow were available for takeout. Guess I never really paid attention to it. I snatched one at 3am outside of Club X thinking I was being slick, but she explained they're available if you pay the salida. Or wait until they get off.
Rumba Bar (across the street from El Flow) seems to be a nice alternative to El Flow. Plus the 15 foot outdoor screen is going to be popular come football season. I can see Americans flocking to that bar for MNF or Cowboys games. Construction at La Passions and is expected to be done by the end of the month. Kinda curious to see what he's come up with. There are a new set of girls there. Only two or three left overs.
There are a couple of cheapo "dominican" food spots that have popped up on Pedro Clisante. One, near the exchange bank down by PJs, was there when I was there in December. They always run out of food by 3pm. Two more have popped up further up the street. One is a small fried chicken shack that's right next to 4 Roses Bar. Another is a little further down in that strip with the barbershops/salons and the market. Susanna's has moved also. It's now in the restaurant space with the wooden storefront across from the sports book on Pedro Clisante (It used to be back in an alley).
Overall there seems to be more improvement in Sosua in the last 6 or 7 months versus what I've seen over the previous 4 years (I was on the every-other-month plan for a few years). If only the talent would follow in lockstep. But there was enough to keep me interested. And enough to keep me finding ways to come back. *sighs*.
Happy punting.
Do
What cross streets are the street walkers at in Sosua and Puerto Plata?
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]Women make love slow, men make love fast.
Pour a drink, kick back and let them take their time. If you jump in to soon you wont get the full show. You have to take away the threat of you running up and poking one of them. They have to think it's about them.
They are great teachers.
To see a girl start at the other girls heel, and lick up the backside of her leg as it's up in the air. Then kiss the inside of her thighs, making the other woman gyrate and moan with antisapation. Then to see the girl grab the others girls head, and hump it as she comes. After she cums good they will kiss and cuddle. Then they will realize you are still there, and signal for you to join.[/QUOTE]Man you should be a porno director. U got my nipples hard while I was reading ur post. Lol! Reminds me of a story with my ex.
She was bi and we would always have 3somes from time to time. We found the broad that we like and took her back to our crib. The scene was set. Had both the honeys bucky naked in my bed touching and kissing like you read in the magazine. As I'm Watching I'm slowly taking my clothes off. Yeah buddy, the scene is getting heated so I'm like fuck it I'm jumping in. ACTION! I see the other girl on top eat me ex pussy like it's her last supper. Got the condom on and ima bout to smash this broad froggy style while she eaten my ex
The honey see me approach her and in mid eaten my ex pussy she stops me. CUT! WTF! What's wrong. She tells me that she only does girls and not guy in other words she's only fucking my ex and that's it. First I was pissed cus I no longer hadthe starring role but I'm like fuck it I'm still the director. So I smoothly jump out the scene and let them continue.*
While they were going at it I went to the kitchen, pop some popcorn got me a coke from he fridge and went back to the bedroom. Didn't want to mess the mojo up so I set in the chair leaned back and watch two girls go at it with a coke and a smile
Jao, AD, Ayypapi, The rest of my esteem colleagues. I'm going to make a plea like Rodney King did when there was civil unrest like it's been in the Sosua boards the past week
"Can't we all just get along"
1. New Garden, Tierra Linda, Casa Valeria, Orquidea, or where else? I know these and some others are on Calle Dr. Rosen, and I believe they're between the beach and Pedro Clisante. Good pool, good beach access, good chica access, a decent restaurant on or near premises - all valued by me.
Sosua is very, very small so any of the hotels are 1-2 minutes from the action. The only chica-friendly hotel on the beach is Sosua Bay Beach Club (part of Sosua Bay Resort).
2. I hear about New Garden chicas - are they "on the staff" like Blackbeard's, or freelancers who are welcome for the "monger-friendly" atmosphere?
No, they are allowed to hang out and you negoiate on your own . They are usually nothing much but a few are good for afternoon fun.
3. Avda. Pedro Clisante appears to be ground zero - from "Calle What?" to "Calle What?"
The main part of Pedro Clisante is only 1 block, there are some other place 5-10 minutes further down PC. Sosua is small!
4. Going rate for chicas "on the strip"? What's a good offer; what's a good target; ST and TLN?
Day: 1000 for ST
Night: 1000-1500 ST, TLN is 1500-2000.
5. Places to target? Places to avoid? Likewise, chicas to target/avoid?
Not much happening in Seacrets but stop by for a look if you want. LaPassion's is 2500 for a 1 hour session onsite but you can salida the girls out for 500 after 12pm (1pm on weekends). The girls go back and forth all night so all you have to do is get a seat say in Merengue bar and watch the parade.
6. How's October, weather-wise? I know it's near the end of hurricane season.
Weather is always a crap shoot.
p.s. I have been reading the Argentina site and this is my next place to visit.
[QUOTE=Jaosousa]For whatever reason I cannot recall seeing a screen on a window in many of the homes I have been to in DR. I stay in a luxury apartment in SDQ, no screens on any of the windows there. Better hotels in SDQ, Jaragua, Palacio, V Centanario no screens on the windows.
I don't know how you would hang a mosquito net if you stay a few nights in a hotel, unless you travel with tools or unless the room has a four poster bed.[/QUOTE]I've stayed in three, ranging from a shack to a multi-family apartment over a store to a house with a store front. Extended family and kids everywhere!
They all had an indoor toilet with various degrees of fixtures, but only one had running water. The others had a plastic barrel of room temperature water, which is constantly refilled by buckets brought up from a street commuinity tap.
You use a scoop to pour it over your head in a shower stall, or to flush the toilet.
The beds are used on a kind of shift rotation, As a guest, you get a clean bed, but later you go back to your "room" or curtained off area and the bed is full of sleeping kids. Wake up and one is curled up beside your chica,
The first two had some sort of mosquito netting curtained around the baby's beds. I never saw a window screen. My chica asked what I'd like for special dinner, chicken or goose (very special). I say chicken, she points to the yard and says which one?
I watch them chase it, kill it, pluck it and cook it. Best I ever tasted!
You are treated like family, after breakfast, one of the little girls wanted to take me down to the rio. No thanks, but they all said I should go while they cleaned up.
Now, I come from a very uptight commuinty and you just don't go walking off to the woods hand in hand with a young girl. I made sure I stayed on the road in public view, while she ran around and proudly showed me her favorite places.
Rest of the time drinking coffee, beer, playing dominoes and cards. Kids are fascinated my simple cards tricks, and "miising finger" tricks and won't leave you alone. They vie for your attention, and the little ones who get pushed out of the games go off and cry.
For a change an evening at a local bar is nice,
So, not for the faint of heart, but I must say the 3 days I spent with them was the best time I ever had, in spite of the inconveniences.
Oh yeah, the "on topic" part.
Forget about sex till you get back to the hotel in town with your chica.
And a chica that gets you thru all this with a smile on your face is very "special" indeed.
[QUOTE=Docinho]Just got back from the longest trip I've taken to Sosua. First time back since December. Random, general observations:
Stayed at New Garden. I'll post more details in the Sosua Hotels thread, but I have to give kudos to NG. It seems they've stepped it up quite a bit. The "Miss New Garden. July" pagent was hilarious. The BBQ Buffet afterwards was good too. I'm definitely going to plan my next trip around that contest. The next one is August 14. They had several buffet dinners available on different nights which was really convenient for the large party I was part of. The restaurant seems to have improved. Jennie has the office in order. They've updated several rooms in the "old wing" and working on more. And apparently digital cable has made its way to Sosua. So the cable offering (and wireless connections) is improved at NG and throughout Sosua.
Even the puta barnacles that hang around the pool are better.
The overall talent level is down. The upper echelon has thinned out quite a bit. A lot of the familiar faces from the last 2-3 years or so aren't around, but there are a lot of new chicks. The "middle class" is respectable, but there are quite a few uglies running around. Because of this. Plus the overall downturn in gringo traffic. Prices are down (good for us). Classicos isn't even worth going into except Thurs, Fri, and Sat. Lot of university chicas on Friday and Saturday. I hate to see what's going to happen when school gets back in session.
Funny. One slow night I was in Classicos kinda early and the boogah percentage was really high. And the DJ started rocking "Ice, Ice Baby" much to the delight of the boogahs on the dance floor and I thought I was in the third circle of hell.
As an aside: I didn't know the bartenders at El Flow were available for takeout. Guess I never really paid attention to it. I snatched one at 3am outside of Club X thinking I was being slick, but she explained they're available if you pay the salida. Or wait until they get off.
Rumba Bar (across the street from El Flow) seems to be a nice alternative to El Flow. Plus the 15 foot outdoor screen is going to be popular come football season. I can see Americans flocking to that bar for MNF or Cowboys games. Construction at La Passions and is expected to be done by the end of the month. Kinda curious to see what he's come up with. There are a new set of girls there. Only two or three left overs.
There are a couple of cheapo "dominican" food spots that have popped up on Pedro Clisante. One, near the exchange bank down by PJs, was there when I was there in December. They always run out of food by 3pm. Two more have popped up further up the street. One is a small fried chicken shack that's right next to 4 Roses Bar. Another is a little further down in that strip with the barbershops/salons and the market. Susanna's has moved also. It's now in the restaurant space with the wooden storefront across from the sports book on Pedro Clisante (It used to be back in an alley).
Overall there seems to be more improvement in Sosua in the last 6 or 7 months versus what I've seen over the previous 4 years (I was on the every-other-month plan for a few years). If only the talent would follow in lockstep. But there was enough to keep me interested. And enough to keep me finding ways to come back. *sighs*.
Happy punting.
Do[/QUOTE]Do,
Nice report! Need to get back down there asap! Damn do I miss the promise land
Hey guys.
I had a great time in DR. Stayed at New Garden. Shout out to Wilfredo the manager.
While there. They had a Bday party with a bikini contest. The promoters were Dos Caras. Pretty cool party had about 100 gurls. All dressed in white!
Pretty much all the gurls from Classicos was there. LOL
Below is a link via utube. And some pics of Rosa and her sis. I fuked both. Enjoy. I know I did!
Later
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMA3mEC9jxU[/url]
[QUOTE=Oakie]I've stayed in three, ranging from a shack to a multi-family apartment over a store to a house with a store front. Extended family and kids everywhere!
They all had an indoor toilet with various degrees of fixtures, but only one had running water. The others had a plastic barrel of room temperature water, which is constantly refilled by buckets brought up from a street commuinity tap.
You use a scoop to pour it over your head in a shower stall, or to flush the toilet.
The beds are used on a kind of shift rotation, As a guest, you get a clean bed, but later you go back to your "room" or curtained off area and the bed is full of sleeping kids. Wake up and one is curled up beside your chica,
The first two had some sort of mosquito netting curtained around the baby's beds. I never saw a window screen. My chica asked what I'd like for special dinner, chicken or goose (very special). I say chicken, she points to the yard and says which one?
I watch them chase it, kill it, pluck it and cook it. Best I ever tasted!
You are treated like family, after breakfast, one of the little girls wanted to take me down to the rio. No thanks, but they all said I should go while they cleaned up.
Now, I come from a very uptight commuinty and you just don't go walking off to the woods hand in hand with a young girl. I made sure I stayed on the road in public view, while she ran around and proudly showed me her favorite places.
Rest of the time drinking coffee, beer, playing dominoes and cards. Kids are fascinated my simple cards tricks, and "miising finger" tricks and won't leave you alone. They vie for your attention, and the little ones who get pushed out of the games go off and cry.
For a change an evening at a local bar is nice,
So, not for the faint of heart, but I must say the 3 days I spent with them was the best time I ever had, in spite of the inconveniences.
Oh yeah, the "on topic" part.
Forget about sex till you get back to the hotel in town with your chica.
And a chica that gets you thru all this with a smile on your face is very "special" indeed.[/QUOTE]Your experience and descriptions almost mirror a trip I took to a small "town" just west of Azua earlier this year to meet my "regular"s family. Enjoyable trip but sobering to see how these people live every day,the poverty is gut wrenching to say the least.
I'm not a drinker. Many times when I go on the strip, I just hang out in front of the clubs, bars. I like to see the chica parade passing by going from one bar to the other. On my last visit to sosua, I notice that once or twice a week, There's jeep or truck with flashing lights on top, Police will get out and start walking up and down the strip. This is not the tourist police. This is the other police dressed in an army looking uniform. Out of nowhere the police start to lightly begin a pat down on me, I guess to find something illegal. I'm very aware at this point is to remain as calm as possible. Police ask me for id. The only thing I have on me is a copy of my passport and a big key chain logo with hotel seabreeze on it. I'm afro-american, at this point he knows I'm american. The way this police is conducting himself is in an unnecessary harassing way(bad attitude). After a good ten minutes go by, The police said to me, Nigger! The next time, If I don't have my original id(passport or state), I'm going to jail. Police man is just as dark as me. For the rest of the night, They continue up and down the strip in a harassing way. The local's told me they do this to everybody. I come to realize, that if you go inside the bar(club), they will not bother you. That's what I did the next time I saw them. I want no contact with them. It's like they want to make trouble for you. I still love Sosua!
I leave this Wed. for the DR and will be at BB's but will also spend some time in Sosua and I want to thank everyone for all of the information that has been posted. I will post any information or observations I feel are of interest when I return.
This is one of my favorite threads however this week I have been surprized at how far off topic this thread has gone. The negative tone and comments have for the most part gotten in the way of any real intel being provided. No finger pointing but ...... enough is enough.
Thank you all again.
[QUOTE=Oakie] I never saw a window screen. [/QUOTE]Good post. The windows usually have metal shutters, usually no glass and no screens. Tin roofs (bring a tube of silicone to patch any holes in the tin, to keep rain water out), no air conditioning, lucky if there are fans and an inversor to power the lights and a fan, when the neighborhood has no electricity. Sometimes no running water to wash your hands after you go to the bathroom (could be good to bring some hand sanitizer). A small flashlight to see your way around when the power goes out and if the house doesn't have an inversor. Cloth curtains in the doorways, usually not many wood interior doors. The houses are usually kept very clean inside.
I don't understand why many homes don't have screens to keep out the flies and mosquitoes.
The young kids are funny, give them one dollar and they go crazy and run to a colmado to buy candy or an icy.
[QUOTE=Docinho]Just got back from the longest trip I've taken to Sosua. First time back since December. Random, general observations:
Stayed at New Garden. I'll post more details in the Sosua Hotels thread, but I have to give kudos to NG. It seems they've stepped it up quite a bit. The "Miss New Garden. July" pagent was hilarious. The BBQ Buffet afterwards was good too. I'm definitely going to plan my next trip around that contest. The next one is August 14. They had several buffet dinners available on different nights which was really convenient for the large party I was part of. The restaurant seems to have improved. Jennie has the office in order. They've updated several rooms in the "old wing" and working on more. And apparently digital cable has made its way to Sosua. So the cable offering (and wireless connections) is improved at NG and throughout Sosua.
Even the puta barnacles that hang around the pool are better.
The overall talent level is down. The upper echelon has thinned out quite a bit. A lot of the familiar faces from the last 2-3 years or so aren't around, but there are a lot of new chicks. The "middle class" is respectable, but there are quite a few uglies running around. Because of this. Plus the overall downturn in gringo traffic. Prices are down (good for us). Classicos isn't even worth going into except Thurs, Fri, and Sat. Lot of university chicas on Friday and Saturday. I hate to see what's going to happen when school gets back in session.
Funny. One slow night I was in Classicos kinda early and the boogah percentage was really high. And the DJ started rocking "Ice, Ice Baby" much to the delight of the boogahs on the dance floor and I thought I was in the third circle of hell.
As an aside: I didn't know the bartenders at El Flow were available for takeout. Guess I never really paid attention to it. I snatched one at 3am outside of Club X thinking I was being slick, but she explained they're available if you pay the salida. Or wait until they get off.
Rumba Bar (across the street from El Flow) seems to be a nice alternative to El Flow. Plus the 15 foot outdoor screen is going to be popular come football season. I can see Americans flocking to that bar for MNF or Cowboys games. Construction at La Passions and is expected to be done by the end of the month. Kinda curious to see what he's come up with. There are a new set of girls there. Only two or three left overs.
There are a couple of cheapo "dominican" food spots that have popped up on Pedro Clisante. One, near the exchange bank down by PJs, was there when I was there in December. They always run out of food by 3pm. Two more have popped up further up the street. One is a small fried chicken shack that's right next to 4 Roses Bar. Another is a little further down in that strip with the barbershops/salons and the market. Susanna's has moved also. It's now in the restaurant space with the wooden storefront across from the sports book on Pedro Clisante (It used to be back in an alley).
Overall there seems to be more improvement in Sosua in the last 6 or 7 months versus what I've seen over the previous 4 years (I was on the every-other-month plan for a few years). If only the talent would follow in lockstep. But there was enough to keep me interested. And enough to keep me finding ways to come back. *sighs*.
Happy punting.
Do[/QUOTE]
A couple questions about the Univ. girls:
Do they tend to speak more English than the other girls?
When do they go back to school.
How do their looks, performance, price compare to the full time girls?
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Mr Nando Nyc]Hey guys.
I had a great time in DR. Stayed at New Garden. Shout out to Wilfredo the manager.
While there. They had a Bday party with a bikini contest. The promoters were Dos Caras. Pretty cool party had about 100 gurls. All dressed in white!
Pretty much all the gurls from Classicos was there. LOL
Below is a link via utube. And some pics of Rosa and her sis. I fuked both. Enjoy. I know I did!
Later
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMA3mEC9jxU[/url][/QUOTE]I hope that broad on YouTube with the blue lingerie with tattoos on her back that the camera man was all up on wasn't nobodies girlfriend cus my boy was smashing that on a kitchen table while we were in Sosua.
I'm serious.
[QUOTE=Tablefall]I'm not a drinker. Many times when I go on the strip, I just hang out in front of the clubs, bars. I like to see the chica parade passing by going from one bar to the other. On my last visit to sosua, I notice that once or twice a week, There's jeep or truck with flashing lights on top, Police will get out and start walking up and down the strip. This is not the tourist police. This is the other police dressed in an army looking uniform. Out of nowhere the police start to lightly begin a pat down on me, I guess to find something illegal. I'm very aware at this point is to remain as calm as possible. Police ask me for id. The only thing I have on me is a copy of my passport and a big key chain logo with hotel seabreeze on it. I'm afro-american, at this point he knows I'm american. The way this police is conducting himself is in an unnecessary harassing way(bad attitude). After a good ten minutes go by, The police said to me, Nigger! The next time, If I don't have my original id(passport or state), I'm going to jail. Police man is just as dark as me. For the rest of the night, They continue up and down the strip in a harassing way. The local's told me they do this to everybody. I come to realize, that if you go inside the bar(club), they will not bother you. That's what I did the next time I saw them. I want no contact with them. It's like they want to make trouble for you. I still love Sosua![/QUOTE]Glad you kept your cool while the police was harassing u. Soon as the guy said the N-word to me I wouldve started laughing my ass off. Especially when the muthafucker is the same complexion as me. *Then I would've offered him and his guy a beer. *
I know it sounds crazy but if you see those officers again offer them a beer or slide the guy a few hundred peso. Trust me the small act of kindness/generosity can go ALONG WAY down there
Ooh and when you see him make sure you put your arm next to his to show him that yaw damn near resemble the same skin complexion and tellem, Black is Black.
This is my first trip to DR. I'm in Sosua. I was checking if anyone would like to meet up for a few beers. The 1st round will be on me.
EJ
[QUOTE=Manizales911]Your experience and descriptions almost mirror a trip I took to a small "town" just west of Azua earlier this year to meet my "regular"s family. Enjoyable trip but sobering to see how these people live every day,the poverty is gut wrenching to say the least.[/QUOTE]True, Mani, but they are generally hard working (cooking, cleaning, washing, taking care of the kids etc) and manage to live on very little. But they also know how to party when Santa Clause (me) comes to visit. They live full and passionate lives compared to a lot of lonely people up north here in the big city, who never relate to anything but their TV set.
What is "sobering" though is that my amazing experiences, as a white guy, being accepted into a third world family and lovin it, are not unique. I'm learning that quite a few of you guys have done more or less the same, but after waking up hung over, putting on the coffee, bringing up the water for a shower, finding a comfortable spot to kick back and drink beer, going for a beer with the brothers,having kids all over you, after a few days, you really become family. If you saw us all hanging out, you wouldn't know 'til the end of the night who was my chica. We don't sit aroud holding hands fer chissakes.
Also "sobering" is that the game played by my "special" chica, seems to be standard issue, even down to the terms used in her messages - Mi cielo, mi principe, mi corozon. Could be from any one of them. Do they all go to the same chica school?
But she is special in that she sells more than sex. She sells compatibility, total trust and reliablity, 24/7 total devotion and inclusion in her family and there's a market for that. I know, I'm one.
I now believe its not a "game" her and her family are playing. The chica may have a script, but to the rest of the family, male and female, it's just an accepted way of life for them.
I've never posted much real useful information on this board, because I'm still "negotiating" with my chica, and not sure yet how it will turn out. The chicas seem to be so smart that I'm paranoid they or somebody in the family, reads this board and I don't want to be identified while I'm laying out my game plan here for all to see. So bear with me, no names and places yet. I'm also dead scared of hearing one of you guys telling me you're down there right now with my "special" chica, with your dick in her mouth (:0). (I'd rather not know)
Won't take long to settle the question, tho, and then I'll post some pics, and give out my favorite locations and reviews.
But I always think the general info about my "relationship" can be useful to those guys who prefer a regular girlfriend, and are interested in what's involved.
Think of it as an alternative way to spend your vacation, although except for these "meeting family trips", you'll mostly find us partying on Pedro Cilante.
I had something to say about the "fathers" I've seen down there who have multiple families, and it's not as harsh as you might think, but I'll leave that for another time, if anyone's interested.
With his perspective of the chica and extended families. I have been to the farthest end of the dirt road where poverty is unlike anything I had seen in the 5 years being here. He understands that the chica who introduced him to family, she lays down with other guys to put food on the table for her children and family. Simple as that. He also knows that if he commits to this woman, she will be faithful and devoted to him-to the end. It is like this, I chica I met recently told me she has 3 kids, the youngest being 4 months. I doubt very much she was unfaithful to the father of her kids, but when he walked out on her with no support, what is a chica to do to feed her kids. Unemployment here is over 15%.
[QUOTE=Mr Nando Nyc]Hey guys.
I had a great time in DR. Stayed at New Garden. Shout out to Wilfredo the manager.
While there. They had a Bday party with a bikini contest. The promoters were Dos Caras. Pretty cool party had about 100 gurls. All dressed in white!
Pretty much all the gurls from Classicos was there. LOL
Below is a link via utube. And some pics of Rosa and her sis. I fuked both. Enjoy. I know I did!
Later
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMA3mEC9jxU[/url][/QUOTE]I was there two. Cool Party but they could of picked a better looking ***** for $300 price money. The one in the Blue could of won but she had a stink attitude.
[QUOTE=Riky Rapido]Unemployment here is over 15%.[/QUOTE]That's not bad at all, considering unemployment in Spain is 20%.
[QUOTE=Forcesteeler]I was there two. Cool Party but they could of picked a better looking ***** for $300 price money. The one in the Blue could of won but she had a stink attitude.[/QUOTE]
Is that $300USD prize money for the bikini contest winner?
[QUOTE=Bq Ribs]Is that $300USD prize money for the bikini contest winner?[/QUOTE]Yes the winner won $300 dollars.
[QUOTE=Forcesteeler]Yes the winner won $300 dollars.[/QUOTE]That is a nice little piece of change for the winner. Was there an entrance fee? Where did the prize money come from?
[QUOTE=Bq Ribs]That is a nice little piece of change for the winner. Was there an entrance fee? Where did the prize money come from?[/QUOTE]Its was a private party and there was no entrance fee. Price came from the Twins that throw the party. Dos Caras
[QUOTE=Lagocache]That's not bad at all, considering unemployment in Spain is 20%.[/QUOTE]
Yes, but they count in the 85% employed anyone who earns anything at all during the month. And they don't count women as unemployed if her man has earned anything at all. By First World methods of assessment it is more like 40%.
Also there is virtually no social security safety net so being employed is a lot more desperate in the DR.
Hey CP, where are you getting this data?
[QUOTE=Charles Pooter]Yes, but they count in the 85% employed anyone who earns anything at all during the month. And they don't count women as unemployed if her man has earned anything at all. By First World methods of assessment it is more like 40%..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Rjsss212]Hey CP, where are you getting this data?[/QUOTE]
For the record, I was being a bit (here I go using that word again for the 2nd time in my last 3 posts) facetious. There's no way in hell the unemployment rate in the DR is only 15%.
[QUOTE=Lagocache]For the record, I was being a bit (here I go using that word again for the 2nd time in my last 3 posts) facetious. There's no way in hell the unemployment rate in the DR is only 15%.[/QUOTE]You know it, I know it, and hopefully everyone reading this board knows it. The only problem is the Dominican Today doesn't know it. I thought you got your information from this article.
CP's explanation makes more sense than the newpaper article.
[url]http://dominicantoday.com/dr/economy/2009/10/19/33595/Dominican-Republic-unemployment-unchanged-at-15[/url]
I usually check the CIA world fact book for stuff like this but I strongly believe that they do not update their info regularly if at all, so I was hoping that someone had better data. I remember CP posting once he's livin' large in POP and thought he might be tuned in...
[url]https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/dr.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Bq Ribs]You know it, I know it, and hopefully everyone reading this board knows it. The only problem is the Dominican Today doesn't know it. I thought you got your information from this article.
CP's explanation makes more sense than the newpaper article.
[url]http://dominicantoday.com/dr/economy/2009/10/19/33595/Dominican-Republic-unemployment-unchanged-at-15[/url][/QUOTE]
I am not an expert on anything. I haven't been everywhere and seen it all. I don't hold a masters degree. But with my limited experience here's my take.
Police:
Medellin police act like they are more interested in getting criminals. No harassment of tourists, very safe city.
Dr police harass tourists, and are always looking for a handout.
Advantage: Medellin.
Taxis:
You can ask a taxi driver in the DR where Anna lives and he knows. Very knowledgable about their areas, and others.
Medellin taxis would sometimes ask other taxis where to go. One lady we had to tell to stop for red lights. Some drivers wouldn't even pick us up. All the cabs are the same and are everywhere.
Advantage: DR
Women:
Medellin women are HOT HOT HOT. Very lady like and focused. Wife type material. Pale skin, long black hair, dressed classy, and confident. Some wear to much makeup and fake boobs are popular. I didn't see any ugly women, only a hand full of average girls. I've never been to Russia or Argentina, but in my opinion, as a group Colombianas are the most beautiful women on earth.
DR girls project sex. They are about attention, and give off a sexual vibe.
DR girls make your dick hard, Medellin girls make you smile. Upon first impression, do you want a lady? Or do you want a freak? I could never trust a Dominicana in a serious relationship. But Colombian girls I could.
Advantage: Dominicanas because I don't want a wife, just a fuck. If you want a good girl that will probaly be faithfull, then Medellin.
Infrastucture:
Medellin is an organized, clean, and well put together place.
Dr is totally fuck up. Need I say more.
Strip clubs:
Medellin has several strip clubs with on site rooms. Price's there range from 40-65usd for 40 minutes to an hour.
DR doesn't have but a couple strip clubs.
Advantage: Medeliin.
Casas:
This is where they are simular. Different casa's have different prices.
Advantage: Tie
Weather:
All depends on what time of year you go.
Location:
No contest.
Advantage Dr.
Bang for the buck:
Dr has cheaper plane tickets. Food prices in both are dependent on where you eat. Dr has money changers everywhere. Medeliin is not acceptable to American money. One change place would only change 200usd. He stated that in the past alot of American money was drug related. Hence the crack down.
Advantage Dr.
Pussy prices:
Pussy is available almost everywhere in the Dr for as low as 30usd and as high as 150usd.
Pussy is not available everywhere in Medellin. Strip clubs and casas vary from 20usd to 150usd. Also speaking spanish get you easier and cheaper pussy.
Will I go back to Medellin?
Sure one day because there is so much I want to C. But for right now I'm missing the Dr bad.
I have pics, but the Colombian girls are so sweet I'm not sure I'll post. Atleast I won't till I leave manana.
Mr Gogo,
Cuban women are very similiar to the Dominicans except they are business savy, hard working and dont use drugs.There are many light skinned girls.
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]I am not an expert on anything. I haven't been everywhere and seen it all. I don't hold a masters degree. But with my limited experience here's my take.
Police:
Medellin police act like they are more interested in getting criminals. No harassment of tourists, very safe city.
Dr police harass tourists, and are always looking for a handout.
Advantage: Medellin.
Taxis:
You can ask a taxi driver in the DR where Anna lives and he knows. Very knowledgable about their areas, and others.
Medellin taxis would sometimes ask other taxis where to go. One lady we had to tell to stop for red lights. Some drivers wouldn't even pick us up. All the cabs are the same and are everywhere.
Advantage: DR
Women:
Medellin women are HOT HOT HOT. Very lady like and focused. Wife type material. Pale skin, long black hair, dressed classy, and confident. Some wear to much makeup and fake boobs are popular. I didn't see any ugly women, only a hand full of average girls. I've never been to Russia or Argentina, but in my opinion, as a group Colombianas are the most beautiful women on earth.
DR girls project sex. They are about attention, and give off a sexual vibe.
DR girls make your dick hard, Medellin girls make you smile. Upon first impression, do you want a lady? Or do you want a freak? I could never trust a Dominicana in a serious relationship. But Colombian girls I could.
Advantage: Dominicanas because I don't want a wife, just a fuck. If you want a good girl that will probaly be faithfull, then Medellin.
Infrastucture:
Medellin is an organized, clean, and well put together place.
Dr is totally fuck up. Need I say more.
Strip clubs:
Medellin has several strip clubs with on site rooms. Price's there range from 40-65usd for 40 minutes to an hour.
DR doesn't have but a couple strip clubs.
Advantage: Medeliin.
Casas:
This is where they are simular. Different casa's have different prices.
Advantage: Tie
Weather:
All depends on what time of year you go.
Location:
No contest.
Advantage Dr.
Bang for the buck:
Dr has cheaper plane tickets. Food prices in both are dependent on where you eat. Dr has money changers everywhere. Medeliin is not acceptable to American money. One change place would only change 200usd. He stated that in the past alot of American money was drug related. Hence the crack down.
Advantage Dr.
Pussy prices:
Pussy is available almost everywhere in the Dr for as low as 30usd and as high as 150usd.
Pussy is not available everywhere in Medellin. Strip clubs and casas vary from 20usd to 150usd. Also speaking spanish get you easier and cheaper pussy.
Will I go back to Medellin?
Sure one day because there is so much I want to C. But for right now I'm missing the Dr bad.
I have pics, but the Colombian girls are so sweet I'm not sure I'll post. Atleast I won't till I leave manana.[/QUOTE]
You seem to spend a lot of time in the DR but have an eye for Colombian chica's. Have you tried the Lesser Antiles (Aruba, St Martin, Curacao)? Located in the Caribbean, and have facilities stocked primarily with Colombian woman. Prices start at $30/half hour.
Excellent post comparing the two cities Mr Gogo.
I am not an expert on anything either but I have traveled both countries extensively. There are only two things that I would like to add:
Even though you may get a taxi driver that may not know every nook and cranny in a pretty big city in Colombia,he generally won't try to fuck you as all the taxis are metered and very reasonably priced. Medellin happens to be more expensive than any of the smaller cities in Colombia though. Most of the taxi drivers in the DR are fucking thieves,not all but most.
The ladies:
This just my personal preference, I love both Colombianas and Dominicanas but the thing about the Colombianas is that they have the looks and if you get the right gal that wants to give you a true GFE you will be hooked. If you are strictly a sport fucker (I am no longer one) then I guess Dominicanas could have an edge but I will take a passionate Colombiana any day over a "rough around the edges" Dominicana every time.
If it were not for the lower cost of flights and the shorter travel time I honestly would NEVER go to the DR over Colombia in a million years. That being said,I leave for POP in about five hours from now,good night all.
[QUOTE=Ath Trainer]You seem to spend a lot of time in the DR but have an eye for Colombian chica's. Have you tried the Lesser Antiles (Aruba, St Martin, Curacao)? Located in the Caribbean, and have facilities stocked primarily with Colombian woman. Prices start at $30/half hour.[/QUOTE]Actually I've always liked darker chics. But the Colombian girls are so sweet. Their demeanor, and beauty was a refreshing change for me. Thanks for the info, I'm going to search those boards for future destinations.
[quote=adinga]mr gogo,
cuban women are very similiar to the dominicans except they are business savy, hard working and dont use drugs.there are many light skinned girls.[/quote]yeah in know, but i also heard the police frown on mongerers in cuba.
there are two married cuban sisters who live next door to each other across the street from me in the us.
neither works and they came to this country five years ago. the highlight of my day is when i see them outside, so i can run inside and peek out the blinds.
Been to DR, but Brazil is 100X better. The Women are Fit and are the most beautiful women in the world. The Food is the best i ever tasted.
The Problem is that the ticket prices amd hotels are expensive but its well worth it.
I used to have a gf in Medellin and she treated me very well, fed and sexed me like no other. The only problem I have with Colombian women, well most of them, is that they are extremelly jealous, attach themselves alot, and demand too much attention. I was always faithful with my paisa gf but I had to take her crap constantly about where I was and who I was talking to. I know people here in the US with Colombian wives and they almost seem like their lives became miserable. They have a good housewife that cooks and takes care of the kids but that is about it. My friend can't even receive phone calls and she becomes suspicious. If he tells her to stay in her place she gets really mad. A Colombian woman pissed off is a scary thing to see or be around.
I haven't been around the DR for so long. But one of the things that quickly got my attention is how laid back the women seemed to be. I am constantly banging pros and going out to drink and the few nice ladies I met never questioned or pressured me in any way. I have the impression a Dominican woman has a better sence of reality about how my life is in the US. They don't hold grudges for very long, are easier to satisfy.
Now besides the women, a few personal opinions:
Dominican food has more variety than Colombian food. Bachata sounds better than Vallenato. I can meet all of the DR with my own rental car while in Colombia you travel 8 to 14 hours by bus from city to city. Colombian weather is better, except in the city of Barranquilla where it is so hot. Colombian tourism offers more to see. Colombian hotels in Bogota and Medellin are more expensive than some Santo Domingo hotels. Colombia pro scene is spread around, there is no Sosua like place in Colombia. Dominican beer is better than Colombian beer, which always gives me the runs. DR has Brugal and Colombia has aguardiente (yuck).
I don't know why else I like the DR more, maybe I am still bitter the 2 Colombian relationships I had never worked out after all the time and money I put into them. I wish I would've ventured into mongering while in Colombia and get a better idea how to compare pros.
[QUOTE=Panman]I used to have a gf in Medellin and she treated me very well, fed and sexed me like no other. The only problem I have with Colombian women, well most of them, is that they are extremelly jealous, attach themselves alot, and demand too much attention. I was always faithful with my paisa gf but I had to take her crap constantly about where I was and who I was talking to. I know people here in the US with Colombian wives and they almost seem like their lives became miserable. They have a good housewife that cooks and takes care of the kids but that is about it. My friend can't even receive phone calls and she becomes suspicious. If he tells her to stay in her place she gets really mad. A Colombian woman pissed off is a scary thing to see or be around.
I haven't been around the DR for so long. But one of the things that quickly got my attention is how laid back the women seemed to be. I am constantly banging pros and going out to drink and the few nice ladies I met never questioned or pressured me in any way. I have the impression a Dominican woman has a better sence of reality about how my life is in the US. They don't hold grudges for very long, are easier to satisfy.
Now besides the women, a few personal opinions:
Dominican food has more variety than Colombian food. Bachata sounds better than Vallenato. I can meet all of the DR with my own rental car while in Colombia you travel 8 to 14 hours by bus from city to city. Colombian weather is better, except in the city of Barranquilla where it is so hot. Colombian tourism offers more to see. Colombian hotels in Bogota and Medellin are more expensive than some Santo Domingo hotels. Colombia pro scene is spread around, there is no Sosua like place in Colombia. Dominican beer is better than Colombian beer, which always gives me the runs. DR has Brugal and Colombia has aguardiente (yuck).
I don't know why else I like the DR more, maybe I am still bitter the 2 Colombian relationships I had never worked out after all the time and money I put into them. I wish I would've ventured into mongering while in Colombia and get a better idea how to compare pros.[/QUOTE]Good post, but Dominican women are crazy as shit. Just wait you will C. I was thinking a quick hop to Sosua this week but AA wanted 528usd to change my flight. So I booked another week here in Medellin for 328 change fee. I; m not ready to quit fucking my Colombiana yet.
[QUOTE=Coolie High]Agreed! There's nothing better then to have two females passionately kiss while your waiting to figure out when to jump in ... [/QUOTE]Listin Diario online has classified ads, I found this one: "Ventas Varios, 2 AMIGAS BX 18 y 19 años te esperan para tu masaje erótico, ayurvédico, tántrico y ana-prostático."
Two bisexual amigas, waiting for you, erotic massage.
The phone numbers can be found in the listin diario classified advertisement section for Dominica Republic. Some guys meet pros from the ads on mundo anuncio.
[QUOTE=Manizales911]Excellent post comparing the two cities Mr Gogo.
I am not an expert on anything either but I have traveled both countries extensively. There are only two things that I would like to add:
Even though you may get a taxi driver that may not know every nook and cranny in a pretty big city in Colombia,he generally won't try to fuck you as all the taxis are metered and very reasonably priced. Medellin happens to be more expensive than any of the smaller cities in Colombia though. Most of the taxi drivers in the DR are fucking thieves,not all but most.[/QUOTE]I second that. Colombian taxis are cut and dry. They use the meter then have a chart of what you are to pay. POP - Sosua, SDQ - Boca Chica: $20 for a 10 minute ride? Fuck me. I pay $7 from the airport in Bogota to downtown and $20 from the airport in Cali to La Sexta 40 minutes away.
Also the reason that they didn't pick Mr Gogo up is that they probably had a call already. If you think it is bad in MDE try Dubai. I tried to get a taxi for an hour in the hot sun, but they were all headed to calls. I finally ended up jumping on a bus.
[QUOTE=Manizales911]The ladies:
This just my personal preference, I love both Colombianas and Dominicanas but the thing about the Colombianas is that they have the looks and if you get the right gal that wants to give you a true GFE you will be hooked. If you are strictly a sport fucker (I am no longer one) then I guess Dominicanas could have an edge but I will take a passionate Colombiana any day over a "rough around the edges" Dominicana every time.[/QUOTE]Ditto. My Colombia mongering is very limited. That is 1 chica in Santa Marta, 1 in Barranquilla, and a few in Santa Fe in Bogota, all low-end spots. My non-pro count I won't even try to add up. Colombiana any day as you said, and I agree with Mr Gogo, after 70+ countries Colombia has my vote as the most beautiful women on the planet.
[QUOTE=Panman]I used to have a gf in Medellin and she treated me very well, fed and sexed me like no other. The only problem I have with Colombian women, well most of them, is that they are extremelly jealous[/QUOTE]Shit, all women are jealous. I had a Mexicana in California try to go through my computer last week after I told her several times not to touch my shit. She opened an email with pictures that a Colombiana sent me back in April. I told her damn, that was 3 months ago. I don't even know her anymore!
[QUOTE=Panman]I can meet all of the DR with my own rental car while in Colombia you travel 8 to 14 hours by bus from city to city.[/QUOTE]Yeah, but you can fly to any city in Colombia from Bogota (maybe with the exception of San Andreas) for $50.
[QUOTE=Panman]Colombian hotels in Bogota and Medellin are more expensive than some Santo Domingo hotels. [/QUOTE]Depends on what type of place you like to stay in. I've stayed at a rinky dink, community bathroom place in Bogota for $6. My usual hotel was $25 but they just went up to $40. [url]http://www.hotelelvirrey.com/[/url] I tell you the thing I hate about Colombia is that you have to pay for the room per person. When I was a newbie me and 2 wingmen went and had to stay the night in Bogota and wait for our Cali flight the next day. We called ourselves getting a room with 3 beds. Same fucking price as it would have been if we would have gotten 3 separate rooms.
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]Actually I've always liked darker chics. But the Colombian girls are so sweet. Their demeanor, and beauty was a refreshing change for me. Thanks for the info, I'm going to search those boards for future destinations.[/QUOTE]If you like darker ones then go to Cartagena. Expensive as shit but the whole damn city is black. I was shocked when I went there last year. Also Barranquilla and Cali have a lot of black people. I wouldn't recommend Barranquilla for mongering though.
I have been to Sosua and BC once last Nov. ( a long cab ride ) I have been to MDE a lot more and matter of fact I am there right now.
The Casa are around $16 for a half hour in MDE with some very pretty girls working. In the DR I did not go to any Casas.
Yes the girls in Colombia are very jealous. The only woman I have found who are worse are the girls in lima.
The weather in MDE is better than the Dr.
The prices for P4P are much more expensive in the Dr, but a BBBJ is more easier to get in the DR. Most of the time it was a given.
One of the biggest difference is the food prices. In MDE you can eat more cheaply than in the DR. Even the suoermarket prices in Sosua are very high compared to MDE.
The taxi part I think is the worst thing in the DR. $25 from the SD airport to BC is a joke,and from what I have read on this board from POP to Sosua is not much better. Compareing the women is a tough one. In MDE they are for the most part very pretty and light skined where as in the DR they are darker, but some are very pretty also.
All that said what makes the DR very interesting to me is the beach. When in the DR I spend the afternoon swimming and relaxing on the beach. In MDE there is not much for me to do except hunting.
[QUOTE=Adinga]Mr Gogo,
Cuban women are very similiar to the Dominicans except they are business savy, hard working and dont use drugs.There are many light skinned girls.[/QUOTE]
During my little time in Cuba (about 2 years) I thought Cuba had it all. Light. Dark. Whatever you could possibly want plus, Cuban broads had better personalities than DR chicas.
I know that seems crazy because I have been in the DR half a decade now.
[QUOTE=Vics Picks]I have been to Sosua and BC once last Nov. ( a long cab ride ) I have been to MDE a lot more and matter of fact I am there right now.
The Casa are around $16 for a half hour in MDE with some very pretty girls working. In the DR I did not go to any Casas.
Yes the girls in Colombia are very jealous. The only woman I have found who are worse are the girls in lima.
The weather in MDE is better than the Dr.
The prices for P4P are much more expensive in the Dr, but a BBBJ is more easier to get in the DR. Most of the time it was a given.
One of the biggest difference is the food prices. In MDE you can eat more cheaply than in the DR. Even the suoermarket prices in Sosua are very high compared to MDE.
The taxi part I think is the worst thing in the DR. $25 from the SD airport to BC is a joke,and from what I have read on this board from POP to Sosua is not much better. Compareing the women is a tough one. In MDE they are for the most part very pretty and light skined where as in the DR they are darker, but some are very pretty also.
All that said what makes the DR very interesting to me is the beach. When in the DR I spend the afternoon swimming and relaxing on the beach. In MDE there is not much for me to do except hunting.[/QUOTE]
If it's like that, then I need to check out Medellin because I thought the public beach in Sosua sucks ass, anyway.
[QUOTE=Lagocache]If it's like that, then I need to check out Medellin because I thought the public beach in Sosua sucks ass, anyway.[/QUOTE]
Lagocache I thought I was the only one who thought Sosua's beach sucked.
Mr Gogo are you trying to start a mad exodus of Sosua with your comparison report?
[QUOTE=Bq Ribs]Lagocache I thought I was the only one who thought Sosua's beach sucked.
Mr Gogo are you trying to start a mad exodus of Sosua with your comparison report?[/QUOTE]Could be, then I'll be the only mongerer there. LMAO
Bq I hope you don't think Boca Chica is the french Riviera.
In all my visits I have never been in the water at Sosua beach. Sosua beach is for picking up girls, kicking back and having a beer with a great view, and buying tee shirts.
[QUOTE=Lagocache]If it's like that, then I need to check out Medellin because I thought the public beach in Sosua sucks ass, anyway.[/QUOTE]
I stayed at the tennis hotel I think was called Voramar. They had a little beach nearby that was great. Rough water but it was good exercise.
Only locals were there .
I spent the mornings scuba-diving off Sosua, last month, when I was staying at Blackbeard's. I've been to prettier beaches, better surf, more and nicer feminine scenery - but the diving was fine, the reefs pretty healthy (some bleached soft-corals but not enough to call it "ruined"), and the swimming was fine between dives.
We aren't choosing Sosua for the beach, anyways. At least I'm not. I'll go back because I can do scuba-diving all day and muff-diving all night.
[quote=Vics Picks]All that said what makes the DR very interesting to me is the beach. When in the DR I spend the afternoon swimming and relaxing on the beach.[/quote]
[QUOTE=Lagocache]If it's like that, then I need to check out Medellin because I thought the public beach in Sosua sucks ass, anyway.[/QUOTE]
[quote=Bq Ribs]Lagocache I thought I was the only one who thought Sosua's beach sucked.[/quote]
[quote=Mr Gogo]In all my visits I have never been in the water at Sosua beach. Sosua beach is for picking up girls, kicking back and having a beer with a great view, and buying tee shirts.[/quote]
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]......Bq I hope you don't think Boca Chica is the french Riviera.
In all my visits I have never been in the water at Sosua beach. Sosua beach is for picking up girls, kicking back and having a beer with a great view, and buying tee shirts.[/QUOTE]Boca Chica the French Riveria? hmmmmm
My primary reason to go to the beach is to check out the chicas.
Does Playa Boca Chica still shut down at dark? Nothing like having a meal at sunset on the beach.
[QUOTE=Bq Ribs]Boca Chica the French Riveria? hmmmmm
My primary reason to go to the beach is to check out the chicas.
Does Playa Boca Chica still shut down at dark? Nothing like having a meal at sunset on the beach.[/QUOTE]
At least you can feel at home with the panoramic view of Caucedo @ sunset, has that Newark essence to it.
[QUOTE=Bq Ribs]Boca Chica the French Riveria? hmmmmm
My primary reason to go to the beach is to check out the chicas.
Does Playa Boca Chica still shut down at dark? Nothing like having a meal at sunset on the beach.[/QUOTE]Last time I was there, they did shut down at dark. Cabarette beach is the best for night dinning and entertainment.
Dominicans go to the beach on Sunday's. I stay at Zappata. They have a bar, chairs, and a gate for privacy. As women walk by seeing me kick back, they try to make eye contact hoping for an invitation. But when Mckinsey worked there he would have whatever I wanted sent in house.
[QUOTE=Westy]I spent the mornings scuba-diving off Sosua, [/QUOTE]Some photos from years ago of around Sosua.
[QUOTE=Jinks]I have been looking at going to the DR for a while. Since I can't go to brazil because right now I just don't want the hassle of getting a VISA right now, I figure I hit up DR first. I want to go to Sousa for my first trip and stay at the New Garden. I plan August/September timeframe. I have been reading some reports and I think I made a good choice for my first trip. I will be by myself and hopefully there will be no problem with that. Right now a ticket is costing me about $500. $700 right now. I plan to stay for 7 days. Is there any thing as far as sight seeing and picture taking while I'm there? Does the New Garden have women that works there or around the area. Is it safe for a person traveling by himself? Should I pay no more that 2000 for short or long stay? Should I bring my own Condoms? Any general info about Sousa and the women and things to do would be just great.
Thanks guys[/QUOTE]Some photos during the daytime, to give you an idea what Sosua is like. These photos are from years ago, but not much changes in Sosua.
I will be in Sosua at the beginning of August. It will be my first time. does anybody have a recommendation for a la passion girl: a girl to have fun with in the evening and more a porn star experience than a a GFE.
Thanks for your support.
Vesuv
[QUOTE=Vesuv]I will be in Sosua at the beginning of August. It will be my first time. does anybody have a recommendation for a la passion girl: a girl to have fun with in the evening and more a porn star experience than a a GFE.
Thanks for your support.
Vesuv[/QUOTE]Sorry I can't help you with the girl ,but I like your attitude about having a porn star over a GFE. Sometimes you just want to hammer them without all the mi amors.
I'm headed down to Sosua in mid September and am thinking about staying at the New Garden Hotel (due to the overwhelming number of great reviews in the forum and because I stayed at the lackluster europa in 2006). I was wondering if anybody who stayed there recently, thinks I would have trouble bringing non cedula haitian girls into my room? If you have any specific recommendation about which rooms or hotels for that matter are better that would be much appreciated (I'm a low key, horny bastard who wants get back to my room w/puta with the least obstacles possible)
[QUOTE=Vesuv]I will be in Sosua at the beginning of August. It will be my first time. does anybody have a recommendation for a la passion girl: a girl to have fun with in the evening and more a porn star experience than a a GFE.
Thanks for your support.
Vesuv[/QUOTE]Can only comment on Madalin, definitely not PSE, but who knows about the other chicas. Havn't been with a passion girl in over a year now ( 4 trips down there since).
Hi all
I brought a girl back last night who had been on my case since I've been here, so at last I thought I'd do her the priviledge of doing some nocturnal business with her, but low and behold she turned out to be a total nightmare, do not go with this one she is a big time hustler. We fixed the deal at 1000 pesos and I'd bought her a couple of beers too, but before we even got round to doing it she was asking for the money up front, which in my school of thoughts is a big no no, for obvious reasons. After telling her she had to leave she promptly decided that that was a very bad idea with me and after finishing up she wanted an extra 500 pesos! It took me 15 minutes to get her out and the only way I was able to was by threatening her that I would tell all the guys in the bar where she hangs out that this is what she does so stay well clear from her. Otherwise she's pretty much banging, but the consequential headache afterwards if you're not street is not worth it.
Description, about 5 4" black, current with fringe and hair at back shoulder length, she has really pretty Chinese eyes and she dresses quite fashionably with diamonte encrusted belt type thing. She has quite a full bottom and like 34C breasts, very nice figure, and she has slight muffin tops, a bit of meat on the bone type thing. She also has a slight chip in one of the front top teeth and she goes by the name of STEPHANIE, despite using her friend's I. The last called Linda, so that's a bad to start with. She hangs around the Central bar or next bar or 2.
Warning, stay away from her, she is a complete pain in the ass aswell. Take care all and watch out as a few of these girls like to try and pull this trick and at 2am its not very nice to try and get them out of your room but if they do try and pull this stunt, tell them that you'll tell everybody in the bar, and don't be worried about calling for the night watchman to throw them out.
Peace out
[QUOTE=Vesuv]I will be in Sosua at the beginning of August. It will be my first time. does anybody have a recommendation for a la passion girl: a girl to have fun with in the evening and more a porn star experience than a a GFE.
Thanks for your support.
Vesuv[/QUOTE]I'll be there too so if you want to hook up cool, but you shld just go in thre and have a drink and then just observe and interview. Because I can tell you so and so is goood but she may not be good with you. Just go in there and kick back and you will know eventually who you would like and who may 'like' you. Also, try and go a little early bc sometimes guys take the good meat right out of there. LOL
Thanks Chief Justice
I drove to Sosua on my way back from Las Terrenas and spent the last 2 nights at the New Garden. Met a guy at the hotel who looked lost and spoke zero spanish so I decided to help him out around the place and in the process have a wingman because I hate walking and drinking around here alone.
As I sat by El Flow one of the girls I banged on my last trip recognized me and invited herself to sit on my table. I had very good memories of our time together, so I didn't mind seeing her again. Her counsin was a tall and thick freak that got my new wingman interested. Everything was perfect up to the point all four of us went to my room and decided to take shots of patron.
After my wingman left with the cousin to his room, my girl starts to talk about how hurt she feels because I never called her. She started crying and freaking out about how she had been waiting for my phone call for the last seven months and how she had fallen in love with me. She questioned me as to why I was so cold and treated women like trash. She yelled across the balcony to tell her friend about how much of a monster I am and even the security guard looked puzzled.
By this time my dick was soft and my buzz was gone as I became extremelly agravated with this drama. After l told her to get out she calls her cousin's cell phone crying and in the process disturbs my wingman's session as the cousin comes running worried something bad had happened. The mood was gone for both of us so we attempted to kick them both out of my room but not before I had to give my girl 1000 pesos. She had demanded 2000 but I told her that not even over my dead body that was going to happen and that I was ready to fight every single one of her pimps to keep my money.
Once they left we hit Classicos at 2 am trying to make up for lost time and get another piece of ass. My wingman was quick to find himself someone and I was approached by a sweet lady from Santiago. We agreed to 2000 pesos after much negotiating and headed to the room. She was one of these women that looked better with clothes on. When the tight pants and bra comes off she looks like Flubber and has more stripes around her body than a zebra. Her pussy really stunk as I hit it doggie and my mind still wasn't fully recovered from the real life soap opera I had gone thru. Eventually the lower head wasn't in sync with the upper one and there was no way in hell I was going to cum.
She eventually got tired and got dressed and I didn't even try to stop her. Gave her the money and tried to sleep with the thought I couldn't bust a nut in Sosua on my first night back.
[QUOTE=Panman]When the tight pants and bra comes off she looks like Flubber and has more stripes around her body than a zebra. Her pussy really stunk.[/QUOTE]ROFLMAO, I can relate and I am sure other mongers have had similar type experiences, thanks for the post.
Hi,
As a 47 yr old male I plan to visit Sosua November 2010. I like a little luxury and privacy. I work my hobby pretty low key and discrete. So I am looking for a luxurious hotel, close to the beach that will give me no problems when I want to bring back a chica every now and then. Any suggestions anyone?
PP2
[QUOTE=Panman]After my wingman left with the cousin to his room, my girl starts to talk about how hurt she feels because I never called her. She started crying and freaking out about how she had been waiting for my phone call for the last seven months and how she had fallen in love with me. She questioned me as to why I was so cold and treated women like trash. She yelled across the balcony to tell her friend about how much of a monster I am and even the security guard looked puzzled.
By this time my dick was soft and my buzz was gone as I became extremelly agravated with this drama. After l told her to get out she calls her cousin's cell phone crying and in the process disturbs my wingman's session as the cousin comes running worried something bad had happened. The mood was gone for both of us so we attempted to kick them both out of my room but not before I had to give my girl 1000 pesos. [/QUOTE]Are you saying that you did not fuck her but had to give her 1000 pesos anyway? Shit I wouldn't have given that broad bus fare. How many times has someone said that you have the money so you are in charge? You let her flip the script on you. You fucked her last time and it was good so what? You should have been cordial when she came up. Hello, how is everything? Then cut her loose. Tell her that you don't want a girlfriend. That you just want to relax and enjoy yourself and fuck who you want. She started that acting and in love bullshit and you should have cut it off right there. Tell her that you two were just fucking and you gave her money to fuck you. Don't get caught up in those games. I would only repeat with someone who I know with 100% certainty doesn't start drama. And usually if I do repeat I don't have to pay. Variety is the spice of life. Why would I keep running to Sosua paying the same broads to fuck me? That gets too much into girlfriend territory.
You're even worse than me :( "The mood was gone for both of us so we attempted to kick them both out of my room but not before I had to give my girl 1000 pesos."
A smelly pussy that really sucks man. Nothing in this world is worser than that , except maybe farting during sex.
[QUOTE=Panman]I drove to Sosua on my way back from Las Terrenas and spent the last 2 nights at the New Garden. Met a guy at the hotel who looked lost and spoke zero spanish so I decided to help him out around the place and in the process have a wingman because I hate walking and drinking around here alone.
As I sat by El Flow one of the girls I banged on my last trip recognized me and invited herself to sit on my table. I had very good memories of our time together, so I didn't mind seeing her again. Her counsin was a tall and thick freak that got my new wingman interested. Everything was perfect up to the point all four of us went to my room and decided to take shots of patron.
After my wingman left with the cousin to his room, my girl starts to talk about how hurt she feels because I never called her. She started crying and freaking out about how she had been waiting for my phone call for the last seven months and how she had fallen in love with me. She questioned me as to why I was so cold and treated women like trash. She yelled across the balcony to tell her friend about how much of a monster I am and even the security guard looked puzzled.
By this time my dick was soft and my buzz was gone as I became extremelly agravated with this drama. After l told her to get out she calls her cousin's cell phone crying and in the process disturbs my wingman's session as the cousin comes running worried something bad had happened. The mood was gone for both of us so we attempted to kick them both out of my room but not before I had to give my girl 1000 pesos. She had demanded 2000 but I told her that not even over my dead body that was going to happen and that I was ready to fight every single one of her pimps to keep my money.
Once they left we hit Classicos at 2 am trying to make up for lost time and get another piece of ass. My wingman was quick to find himself someone and I was approached by a sweet lady from Santiago. We agreed to 2000 pesos after much negotiating and headed to the room. She was one of these women that looked better with clothes on. When the tight pants and bra comes off she looks like Flubber and has more stripes around her body than a zebra. Her pussy really stunk as I hit it doggie and my mind still wasn't fully recovered from the real life soap opera I had gone thru. Eventually the lower head wasn't in sync with the upper one and there was no way in hell I was going to cum.
She eventually got tired and got dressed and I didn't even try to stop her. Gave her the money and tried to sleep with the thought I couldn't bust a nut in Sosua on my first night back.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Peter Pan #2]Hi,
As a 47 yr old male I plan to visit Sosua November 2010. I like a little luxury and privacy. I work my hobby pretty low key and discrete. So I am looking for a luxurious hotel, close to the beach that will give me no problems when I want to bring back a chica every now and then. Any suggestions anyone?
PP2[/QUOTE]You sound like me on my first trip.
I would recommend Casa Valaria, small quiet and very private. Discreet is the word there. No chicas allowed in the pool, but you can kick back on your semi private poolside terrace.
Family run, but they are cool to quiet chicas as long as you bring them in and take them out.
A/C, room safe and clean for about 50 us per night, and its as close to the action as you need to be.
It's a 10 minute walk to the beach, but on that walk you get so distracted by the action that like me, you'll probably never make it :)
[QUOTE=Peter Pan #2]Hi,
As a 47 yr old male I plan to visit Sosua November 2010. I like a little luxury and privacy. I work my hobby pretty low key and discrete. So I am looking for a luxurious hotel, close to the beach that will give me no problems when I want to bring back a chica every now and then. Any suggestions anyone?
PP2[/QUOTE]El Neptuno apartments are nice. I rented from an American guy who owned the apartment, internet and a safe, in that 2 bedroom apartment. There are several apartments in El Neptuno that are for rent. The guy I rented from his first name was Ray. This link has a page to an El Neptuno apartment rental: [url]http://www.planetvacationrentals.com/3792/[/url]
Blue Bayou condominium is a place that has gotten good reviews: [url]http://www.bluebayouatsosua.com/[/url]
[QUOTE=Oakie]You sound like me on my first trip.
I would recommend Casa Valaria, small quiet and very private. Discreet is the word there. No chicas allowed in the pool, but you can kick back on your semi private poolside terrace.
Family run, but they are cool to quiet chicas as long as you bring them in and take them out.
A/C, room safe and clean for about 50 us per night, and its as close to the action as you need to be.
It's a 10 minute walk to the beach, but on that walk you get so distracted by the action that like me, you'll probably never make it :)[/QUOTE]
I second Oakie and they also ave a decent little restaraunt that I had a great meal at last week. Casa Valeria is right next door to the Hotel New Garden that has been mentioned a great deal in other's previous posts so I won't repeat here.
On my last two trips however I discovered Hotel El Rancho, 3 minute walk away and I like this place better. It was recommended to me by the owner of Casa Valeria when he was full and I couldn't get a room. My future trips will forever be at El Rancho. Here's why:
1) Rooms are $45 a night and the place was just built less than a year ago.
2) Located on a much quieter dead end side street with its own private and protected PUBLIC beach about 100 yards away. Just walk into the adjacent all inclusive and follow the clifftop to the stairs to the beach. No riffraff at all on this beach, none. Trust me, its public.
3) The entire town is within easy walking distance to everything from El Rancho just like Casa Valeria.
4) Exchange your dollars at the street corner with the money exchangers right there. Safe and convenient and they offer the highest street rate. I would exchange exactly $100 USD every time i needed it and be on my way.
5) Chica friendly, they hold her ID card ("cedula") and she doesn't get it back till you walk her out. Strict security guard always on duty at the desk 24/7.
6) Little bar/rest out back serves a decent, cheap breakfast. After the beach just jump into their little pool to cool off. You can eat dinner there and watch them cook it for you.
7) Everything works in the room, A/C, ceiling fan, TV, hot water, and its clean. I was just there for 3 nights several days ago after a 5 day bangfest at BlackBeards.
Their URL: [url]www.hotelelranchososua.com[/url]
Have a great trip!
[QUOTE=Panman]After my wingman left with the cousin to his room, my girl starts to talk about how hurt she feels because I never called her. She started crying and freaking out about how she had been waiting for my phone call for the last seven months and how she had fallen in love with me. She questioned me as to why I was so cold and treated women like trash. She yelled across the balcony to tell her friend about how much of a monster I am and even the security guard looked puzzled.
[/QUOTE]
You know she just needed a little cuddle and to be told you really did love her...
Old Schoolers send me a PM. It's time!
[QUOTE=Peter Pan #2]Hi,
As a 47 yr old male I plan to visit Sosua November 2010. I like a little luxury and privacy. I work my hobby pretty low key and discrete. So I am looking for a luxurious hotel, close to the beach that will give me no problems when I want to bring back a chica every now and then. Any suggestions anyone?
PP2[/QUOTE]
I'd say Terra Linda fills the bill. If cost were more important than max luxury, I'd say El Rancho or Casa Valeria. If a wild party scene right in the hotel's front yard were the criteria, I'd say New Garden. They are all within around 100 meters of each other on the same street.
[QUOTE=Member #2041]I'd say Terra Linda fills the bill. If cost were more important than max luxury, I'd say El Rancho or Casa Valeria. If a wild party scene right in the hotel's front yard were the criteria, I'd say New Garden. They are all within around 100 meters of each other on the same street.[/QUOTE]
Club Residencial is another option and very low key, it is a 10 minute walk from the strip on Pedro Clisante. These are apartments with daily maid service.
[QUOTE=Plemas1]Hi all
I brought a girl back last night who had been on my case since I've been here, so at last I thought I'd do her the priviledge of doing some nocturnal business with her, but low and behold she turned out to be a total nightmare, do not go with this one she is a big time hustler. We fixed the deal at 1000 pesos and I'd bought her a couple of beers too, but before we even got round to doing it she was asking for the money up front, which in my school of thoughts is a big no no, for obvious reasons. After telling her she had to leave she promptly decided that that was a very bad idea with me and after finishing up she wanted an extra 500 pesos! It took me 15 minutes to get her out and the only way I was able to was by threatening her that I would tell all the guys in the bar where she hangs out that this is what she does so stay well clear from her. Otherwise she's pretty much banging, but the consequential headache afterwards if you're not street is not worth it.
Description, about 5 4" black, current with fringe and hair at back shoulder length, she has really pretty Chinese eyes and she dresses quite fashionably with diamonte encrusted belt type thing. She has quite a full bottom and like 34C breasts, very nice figure, and she has slight muffin tops, a bit of meat on the bone type thing. She also has a slight chip in one of the front top teeth and she goes by the name of STEPHANIE, despite using her friend's I. The last called Linda, so that's a bad to start with. She hangs around the Central bar or next bar or 2.
Warning, stay away from her, she is a complete pain in the ass aswell. Take care all and watch out as a few of these girls like to try and pull this trick and at 2am its not very nice to try and get them out of your room but if they do try and pull this stunt, tell them that you'll tell everybody in the bar, and don't be worried about calling for the night watchman to throw them out.
Peace out[/QUOTE]Does this chica have what looks like a see section scan on the belly and a small scar at the corner of her left eye? If so, I know her well! LOL I actually spent a traveled around the D. R. With her for a few days. We stayed in Boca Chica for a few days, Las Terrenas for 2, And a night in Santo Domingo. Her real name is "Crislande", and yes she is a pain in the ass. That being said, she can fuck like hell and actually LIKES it in the ass! She can be a little pushy at times, but, telling her "Shut the fuck up, or get the fuck out! " works wonders on her attitude! She won't really cause you any trouble, and will never steal anything from you. She speaks good english, spanish, french, and creole, and will actually watch out for your money, cell phone, etc. She takes no shit from from anyone that tries to screw you an lets them know with a firm "Mothafucka, Fuck You! " hahaha. Send her to the salon to get her hair and nails done, and buy her a cheap meal, and she will fuck you for just about nothing. If she ever gets your number, she will call incessantly, make you her boyfriend, and ask for money, LOL! All in all, she is actually a VERY fun girl to hang with. She also goes by the name of "Natalie". If you see her again, tell her Terry said hello!
Thanks guys for all the advice. I'll look into it. Last year I spend a week at the Victorian House so I do know the area. I did like that hotel though they were not really chica friendly. I hear they now have a beach club in that same resort that is more easy on the single traveller. Maybe that would be an option too.
[QUOTE=Geolopes]
7) Everything works in the room, A/C, ceiling fan, TV, hot water, and its clean. I was just there for 3 nights several days ago after a 5 day bangfest at BlackBeards.
Their URL: [url]www.hotelelranchososua.com[/url]
[/QUOTE]
One question for you. I know it may seem like a small detail but it makes all the difference in the world to me.
Do the rooms in Rancho have decent curtains that can block out the morning sun? That was my biggest complaint about Sea Breeze, their cheap ass curtains. As soon as the sun came up at 7AM, it would flood the room with light and I couldnt get any sleep.
[QUOTE=Bravo]One question for you. I know it may seem like a small detail but it makes all the difference in the world to me.
Do the rooms in Rancho have decent curtains that can block out the morning sun? That was my biggest complaint about Sea Breeze, their cheap ass curtains. As soon as the sun came up at 7AM, it would flood the room with light and I couldnt get any sleep.[/QUOTE]
The rooms don't get real bright and the curtains block out some of the light. I always use a sleep mask for that reason and share your concern. I prefer the 2nd floor rooms for added security and quiet. The ground floor rooms seem like they might be darkest opposite the pool side but I didn't care for these owing to its close proximity to the casa right across the not quite high enough wall. My second floor room was opposite the pool side and was very quiet and was better shaded with trees. The pool side seems like it might be a bit brighter with sunlight but not really that bad. The 2nd floor rooms also have little balconies. Best bet, 2nd floor, opposite the pool side. Room #18 is a bit larger and cost $50/night as it has a small kitchenette. Room #14 (I think) is on the street side and I declined that room. The street its on is pretty quiet even during the day and very quiet at night. Decent restaraunt across the street along with a "massage" parlor. Barber shop right next door, nice lady gave my wingman a haircut while I read the paper.
[QUOTE=Vesuv]I will be in Sosua at the beginning of August. It will be my first time. does anybody have a recommendation for a la passion girl: a girl to have fun with in the evening and more a porn star experience than a a GFE.
Thanks for your support.
Vesuv[/QUOTE]Talk to the bar manager. She will introduce to the right girl.
[QUOTE=John from NJ]Talk to the bar manager. She will introduce to the right girl.[/QUOTE]1. Have a beer and check them out.
2. If one looks like she could fill the bill, buy her a beer and talk. If she turns your crank get her to show you the back room facilities.
3. By that time you're ready and willing, if not go back to (1.)
Report on 4 day Trip to Sosua/Puerto Plata.
A colleague of mine (WM for wingman) and I traveled to SOA/POP on July 13 for 4 days. Most of the arrangements were made through Ed, El Jefe de Mantours (18299698687; [email]themantourinfoatthemantour.net[/email]), because he showed considerably more initiative in being helpful than other resources I uncovered. I have been to the DR before on four occasions; but, not the North Coast.
In order to properly evaluate the remarks I am about to offer, I think it is useful to understand a bit about my WM & me, as our circumstances/preferences will not be everyone's. We are not frequent mongerers. I have been to all the hotspots; but WM has not. We run businesses, so multiple trips per year are not in the cards. We are financially successful and made it clear that we are looking to optimize the value of our experiences in country – not secure the lowest cost option. At the same time, we made it VERY CLEAR that if we suspect we are being "played", we will terminate the relationship immediately. In short, our goal was the highest quality mongering experience at prices commensurate for that level in the area. Not NYC prices; but NYC talent at DR prices.
Here a summary of experiences from two 1st time visitors to the area:
Airport Transfers – My WM and I arrived 3 hours apart. We retained Ed from Mantours to collect us at $30 per transfer. Since there were two separate transfers involved, it was $70.
Accommodations – After identifying our preferences, doing as much research as Google had available, interacting with resources like Ed plus Field of Dreams, Blackbeards and multiple "villas" agents, I selected the FOD to start. My reasons were on the perceptions that FOD had: 1) talent on premise; 2) best rooms in a property with talent on site; 3) better proximity to outside options. The price I was quoted for best available room was $100 pn. I since learned they can be had for $35 at this time of year, because local tourism in the toilet.
As an aside – I strongly suggest you develop the ability to demonstrate controlled outrage (WTF? Are you crazy? That's way too much.), because it will serve you well on many occasions in the DR (and most other mongering locales to which I have been).
On the evening before departure, I got a call from Ed(again, El Jefe de Mantours – my name, not his) saying the FOD had just laid off all their onsite talent in some dispute over permits. Ed and I discussed various other options. Blackbeards had a problem with one night, so Ed booked us rooms at The New Garden hotel just off the strip in El Batey, which is the area of Sosua where the girlie nightclubs are. Ed made it clear that if we didn't like the NGH, no harm – no foul. NGH is chica-friendly. Some properties are not, especially the all-inclusive ones.
I went to work on finding a villa online. There are lots. I found one that I negoticiated for $450 pn (from $800-1200) about 3 miles outside El Batey. Upon arrival, Ed took me to C. It was beyond Hollywood. Absolutely amazing. Huge pool area, outside/inside kitchens, 5 BR, etc. However, for some reason, I decided not to pull the trigger until WM arrived.
To cut things short, we eventually rented a 3 BR villa with pool from Casa Linda Rentals ([url]www.Casalindacity.com[/url]). Place was perfect. Great pool. AC. Just the right solution for the two of us. Shorter drive to action than the hacienda I viewed first and only $170 pn, which divided by 3 separate BR = $57 before taxes. The NGH was $65 pn and, believe me, there was no comparison. The only drawback from the Casa Linda villa was that transportation was needed. Cabs are available and rental cars are cheap (don't know how cheap, but I reckon $35-50 for SUV). I could not have been more satisfied with our CL villa, even the help around was great, finding us things like corkscrews from the neighbors. BTW – Casa Linda always has multiple villas of all size available for ST rental.
Food: In short, eat well before you go. Again, taste matters. We like nice restaurants, a botella de vino and decent (not great, just well prepared) food. We found none. We ate out twice. Both outside Sosua near POP. Once in Costambar and one Corespi. Ambiance in both was good. Food was edible; but, utterly unremarkable. What we did find were Supermercados, where we could buy tenderloins, vegetables, vino & charcoal. So we cooked at the villa three nights (with help custom selected by us from the local entertainment community in El Batey). I guess there are local eating establishments that will ensure you get your needed carbs fix; but, we have no experience therein.
Entertainment Options:
Blackbeards – is a well known, talent on premises property with rooms, bar, restaurant and rotating shifts of companions, available bi-hourly or all evening, I'm told. We stopped in on Friday evening at Ed's suggestion just to C. Plenty of girls on premise at 6 PM. Newbies coming in for the night shift as we sat at the bar. A few gringo residents around. Very attractive common areas – bars, restaurant, etc. Did not see rooms. Prices for company depend on your requirements. There is a bi-hourly rate if you are a resident. There is an overnight rate (Toda La Noches). And there is the option of walking in off the street and taking a girl out. For this, there would be an all-inclusive rate including a bar fine. Unfortunately, I failed to determine these rates. But an email to Ed will suffice in that regard. Overall, BB is the best (only?) place to consider, if you want potential companions on premises. There is no option to walk from BB to other nightlife. However, taxis, rental cars, etc. Are not difficult to secure.
Field of Dreams – no girls on site, hence no reason to consider. Anyhow, the bar & dining facilities are more substantial at BBs.
El Batey – is the area of Sosua and the main street is Pedro Clisante and it's hard to miss. There are probably 10 bars. All open in front. And this is where the nightlife in Sosua is concentrated. The girls (by 9 pm, there must be 100-150) float from one bar to another, trying to corral a mark. They are very friendly. They are looking for $100 for overnight. They will gladly settle for 3000 Dominican pesos, which is about $90. I suspect you can browbeat to lower. We did not try. Like all joints of this kind worldwide, the better looking girls tend to be younger and are less negotiable. Until later, when caballero pickings thin out and one is in danger of not hooking up. But y'all know about that. We ended up taking girls home for barbecues and a different cast for overnights on 3 of the 4 nights we were there. I would rate the girls we took home – in terms of looks & build from 5 to 7. 5. I did not see any 9's or 10's. Not a one.
However, that having been said, I felt the overall quality was no worse than Rio, if you did your homework and didn't allow Sr. Bacardi to manage your decisions.
Puerto Plata Bars – don't bother. Loud, crummy, maybe even dangerous. In & right back out of 3, so that was our sample.
Passions – Quite well publicized disco in Sosua. Have a website. We just popped in for a very brief tour and walked out because Sr Bacardi told me there was no super talent there. This club deserves a better look than we gave it. I am told they have some very nice girls there from time to time ("depends on the night"). These girls (like to ones at Cristal in POP) must get hired by the Club, so, presumably the standard in higher than on the street in El Batey. We just don't know, because we did not partake seriously.
Cristal – is a disco in Pueto Plata just up from the Malecon, which is the beach road. It, too, is well known. Here we did partake on the last night, albeit in the early evening (8-10 pm). The selection was excellent, even though early by disco standards. We took several out for a casino junket, dancing at Classico's Disco (more on that later) in El Batey and TLN. The rate is fixed. $140 all in – bar fine and the lady. You pay at the cashier in Cristal before you leave. There is SIMPLY NO QUESTION that the talent on average in Cristal blows away the completion. Drinks cost 50% more ($6). Girls cost more. But that's because Mercedes cost more than Mercurys.
Our Preferred Option – is a disco called Classico's, which is upstairs from one of the street bars in El Batey. They charge admission for guys, not girls. It only opens at 11pm, so you have to chill a bit and manage Sr Bacardi in the afternoon. But, it is the best scene we found. There are too many girls to count. We tipped our way into a preferred table in the corner each night. $20 gets it done. The talent was always on parade. Groups of 3 or 4 stand in front of your table, shake a bit and see what happens. No need to pull the trigger too soon here. The first night I was there I had a lady meeting me after her shift as a bartender ended, so I was solo for the first hour in Classico's. I saw a stunner and simply managed to collect her number for a rendezvous the next day, which culminated in her meeting me for a drink at 4 followed a nice "early" evening at the villa. And, BTW, she showed up with friends, whom we also brought home to help cook. No fee just some "carne". If (when?) my WM & I return to this area, we will simply go to Classico's the first night, build a network and "tap" our network there from – arranging beach lunches, villa suppers and all kinds of other "good, clean" fun.
Some Other Observations:
1) Younger girls (all must be 18, so 18-22) are in better shape and prettier; but we find them boring and only interested in getting to the part where they get paid. We like interest, respect, and participation in our activities, including the platonic ones. There is no question that investing a bit of time in the person with whom you plan to spend more time (say 6 hours) is time well spent, if you hope to avoid a low contact, low content robotic experience;
2) All girls carry protection and use. At least the ones, we encountered did;
3) 98. 3% of all girls you meet will be single parents with an esposa who has taken to the wind and left them to support several kids by taking to the streets. Most would love to hook up with a gringo, who can: 1) marry them and take them out of here; 2) marry them and stay here; 3) put them up in a better lifestyle here with visiting privileges; 4) send them a few $ per month. If you wish to avoid penetrating questions in this context, best to lay your cards out early. Believe me, because you are married with a family in the US or elsewhere will not reduce your chances one Dominican peso;
4) The companion rates are fairly standard. I think someone said there are rooms in El Batey, where you can finance an hour rendezvous, if that's your desire. We didn't have any interest in quickies, eschewing them for longer "dates" (some of which we regretted and called to any early halt with no discount);
5) Most girls will gladly provide their phone number if it can lead to a contact later. They have no problem understanding you are hooked up at the moment; but, you may contact them later;
6) US Cell phones & text messaging work in DR for Sprint & ATT. ATT enabled emails. My Sprint BB was supposed to; but, I never got it hooked up and my people in US knew to text if necessary. I was able to call all DR telephone #s, cell & land, as needed. Text also worked fine locally. No need to buy a local phone. None.
7) We prefer no hassle and efficiency. I speak enough basic Espanol to feel very comfortable communicating on my own. WM does not. However, we prefer being in the care of someone like Ed of Mantours, who s fluent and knows the area. Hence, we retained Ed for the duration. We paid him a daily fee and he rented an SUV, because his vehicle was in the shop & too small. We paid for his meals while he was on duty. Ed handled everything including arranging a group rate with no surprises when necessary.
8) The only real negative, other than undistinguishable restaurants, was that I did lose a chunk of $ to a pickpocket in the street in El Batey. Took 15 seconds. She popped up from a street side table, started gyrating as I tried to get past, bumped me only slightly and I was out $1500. Classic gringo stupidity for carrying that amount. You don't need more than three or four hundred, even to cover Cristals, so don't carry more unless you are going to the Casino. Once you go to the street, leave the balance locked in the car. Too bad I ignored the 500 hundred thousand warning about pickpockets I've heard over the years. I guess, "if ya going to be stupid, ya have to be tough. "
Summary: Good trip. Convenient as hell. One hour 40 mins NS from Miami. Very reasonable on every level. When you read about these Fantasy Night vacations for $3500 for 4 nights with pre-arranged, guaranteed companions, I think to myself that's crazy. I inquired if people knew about the chicas involved with these fantasy vacations, because there are several in DR closer to Santa Domingo. Turns out they did and they are the same or similar to the better talent in SOA/POP, which you get to see & touch every night before you sign up. Especially, if you spend a few $ in Cristal & Classico's. Believe me, rent your own villa, hire Ed to handle all your details and you will end up with a comparable to better experience for 50% less.
Soa/POP is no Brazil. It is nowhere near as pretty or clean. The villas are nice; but, there are no Marriott's or the like. No Termas either. There is no Copacabana or Ipanema. There are, however, enough girls of all kinds to fill out your dance card and it is a lot closer. And it's a lot easier to tell your significant other that you are going to the Dr to play golf & fish than explain Rio. I've never been to Medellin or Cartagena, but, I sure as hell would like to. I have been to Costa Rica many times, Manila thrice. Phuket several times and most Western European cities countless times. I've sampled in all. Sosua/POP is a nice, close, cheap option for a couple of days.
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Great write-up.
But it seems that you had money to burn; I would venture that the same trip could be done for less than 50% of your outlay w/ a much better experience. Reading between the lines it seemed that you had "Stupid Gringo. Please take advantage of me", tattooed on your forehead.
No offense intended, just some honest-to-goodness feedback.
[QUOTE=K Cirbu]Report on 4 day Trip to Sosua/Puerto Plata.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=K Cirbu]Report on 4 day Trip to Sosua/Puerto Plata....
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Excellent very accurate report. I don't quite agree about the quality of restaurants as I think there are many good options, but that is a matter of personal taste.
Cristals and La Passion should more accurately be described as brothels than discos. At least at the Classico disco you do have a few tourists with girlfriends showing up to dance, drink, hang out, but Cristals and La Passion are strictly in the business of rental sex.
Also agree very much about the 18-year-olds. Nice to look at, but not a lot of fun to spend time with. Good chemistry on the relationship level invariably leads to better sex--and yes, most are available for anything from a quickie to marriage.
[QUOTE=K Cirbu]6) US Cell phones & text messaging work in DR for Sprint & ATT. ATT enabled emails. My Sprint BB was supposed to; but, I never got it hooked up and my people in US knew to text if necessary. I was able to call all DR telephone #s, cell & land, as needed. Text also worked fine locally. No need to buy a local phone. None. [/QUOTE]Cell phones from the US work in Dom Rep, the problem is the roaming charges, upwards of $3 per minute.
You can buy a local cell phone for 500 pesos ($13 US) and thereafter buy a 500 peso calling card that will give you a good amount of minutes. Some guys buy chips (200 pesos) and thereafter buy calling cards.
Using the call centers in Dom Rep is another way to save money when you have to make international calls.
I'd be curious to see what level of talent your outlay of dinero garnered you. Any pix?
Your comment regarding what you'd do if you returned is right on point. However, you should hit Crystal's on your first night, collect some numbers and have those girls come to your BBQ. They are all available during the day for no more than 2000P for the very hottest.
And Classicos will always provide a couple 8-9s on Thursday thru Sunday nights if you work it right. Lots of fresh girls come into town to make a quick payday on trhe weekends.
New Garden cannot match your villa for luxury but what you will find there is a plethora of information about everything including what chicas are available and for what. You have 30-40 guys there at any given time with various levels of knowledge of Sosua and the DR. Breakfasts are show and tell with everyone comparing their acquisitions from the night before. I suspect that is one reason your guide didn't want you staying there because he woiuld quickly become superfulous.
The important thing is that you had a good time. Hope you try it again now that you know the lay of the land.
Dude, Please tell me she only grabbed 1,500 pesos, not $1,500 USD! Normally, when I hit the strip I only carry about 2000 pesos for dinner, drinks, etc and pay the chica from my room safe. I always wear cargo pants with zipper/button pockets to safely carry my stuff on my trips outside the wire. Plenty of room in the pockets for your camera. Exchange your dollars maybe 1-200 USD at a time openly in public with the money changers on any street corners, with a wingman of course and you won't have any problems.
[QUOTE=K Cirbu]Report on 4 day Trip to Sosua/Puerto Plata.
8) The only real negative, other than undistinguishable restaurants, was that I did lose a chunk of $ to a pickpocket in the street in El Batey. Took 15 seconds. She popped up from a street side table, started gyrating as I tried to get past, bumped me only slightly and I was out $1500. Classic gringo stupidity for carrying that amount. You don't need more than three or four hundred, even to cover Cristals, so don't carry more unless you are going to the Casino. Once you go to the street, leave the balance locked in the car. Too bad I ignored the 500 hundred thousand warning about pickpockets I've heard over the years. I guess, "if ya going to be stupid, ya have to be tough. "
[quote=K Cirbu]Puerto Plata Bars – don't bother. Loud, crummy, maybe even dangerous. In & right back out of 3, so that was our sample.
Cristal: The rate is fixed. $140 all in – bar fine and the lady. You pay at the cashier in Cristal before you leave. There is SIMPLY NO QUESTION that the talent on average in Cristal blows away the completion. Girls cost more. But that's because Mercedes cost more than Mercurys[/quote].
Excellent trip report.
Nice to see Man-Tour get a kind word. I guess he wished clients like you came along every week!
I spend a lot of time in those Puerto Plata bars. Loud and crummy they certainly are but I don't think particularly dangerous. I did once have a bottle of cough medicine stolen from under my very nose. Does that count?
And you would be surprised how often I see those $140 Mercedes from Cristal in them, just having a good time dancing or with their friends, and only too willing to go for 2000 pesos ($55) for the night (no salida and no payment in advance which is a "no-no" for me). Some girls at Cristal don't get a client for two or three weeks at a stretch and they are hungry. As I said, guys like you don't come along very often.
I always leave my back pockets empty. The front right pocket is my vault for all valuables. Room key, photo copy of passport, Big bills. I never go in this pocket or let anyone near it. Front left pocket is fun money. This is the only pocket I frequent.
Any bullshit I get, receipts, business cards, chicas phone numbers, all go in the rear pocets because these are not valuables.
Keep girls hands above your shoulders when in close. Chicas like to rub your dick. The good feeling you start to get from this lowers your defense.
I got picked several years ago in Classicos. I was feeling good dancing with these two chicas. One in front one in back. I was also getting a dick massage. When I did my count in the morning I was 120usd short. Between the liquor, music, and girls dancing I got caught slipping. Turned out to be a good thing because I would have never thought that could happen to me.
Also don't let the kids linger around you. If they see an opportunity they will get you.
Make sure you develope a comfort zone and defend it. If your comfort zone is violated stand up and step back. Have a "don't fuck with me" look on your face. Depending on the situation, step back two steps and have an exit stagedy. Only fight when you have no other options.
Always watch your back. Alot of guys can come up behind you and put you in a choke hold and your got. Stay around crowds. Beware of strangers that don't show their hands.
[QUOTE=Charles Pooter]I spend a lot of time in those Puerto Plata bars. Loud and crummy they certainly are but I don't think particularly dangerous. I did once have a bottle of cough medicine stolen from under my very nose. Does that count?[/quote]
Depends on the cough medicine. The brand with the gold net on the bottle might tempt any thief....:D
Cristal's impressed me as pretty elegant, and the girls I saw there were beauties. But that's their office, where they do their job of snuggling up to every potential "Sugardaddy Bigbucks" that comes in; and the shop sets the rates for them. How much of that $140 goes to the girl?
Some of us insist on driving the Mercedes, drinking the Courvoisier XO, and making a splash. And some of us have found what we enjoy elsewhere. I think I'd have more fun chatting with you at an outside table at Consulado, Sir Charles, with Brugal and mixers; and I'm sure I'd learn more about life in the DomRep.
[QUOTE=Westy]
Cristal's impressed me as pretty elegant, and the girls I saw there were beauties.[/QUOTE]
A couple of weeks back we tried to introduce a couple of American mongers to Cristal. When we arrived, early evening, there was a mob of what I took to be street hookers and their chulos round the door, which was barred. I thought it was some kind of demo or protest. Gradually I realised these were the Cristal's chicas. There had been some sort of power failure so they were locked out. Believe me, they did not look so elegant without their sexy dresses and heavy make-up. In fact they looked no different from your average cross-section in the better-class bars (Chakerero, Esteban, Enigma, etc), maybe because the same girls rotate through these bars in search of clients so indeed they are no different.
It is all in the presentation. As you say, Cristal is the most elegant (indeed the only elegant) location in Puerto Plata, but desperate times have driven even Cristal to play the music at eardrum-bleeding levels and allow the chicas to mob customers when they enter so I avoid the place now.
[QUOTE=Westy]
How much of that $140 goes to the girl?[/QUOTE]
$90. $50 for the house.
Cristal have just built some new cabins for the girls on the roof. I believe they pay 2000 a month to live there and that includes breakfast and comida. So they only need one client a month to cover their food, lodging and other basics. Not a bad deal. They are allowed out for two hours each day so just time to turn a trick if you get their celular number. Other Cristal chicas live off site.
[QUOTE=Westy]
Some of us insist on driving the Mercedes, drinking the Courvoisier XO, and making a splash. And some of us have found what we enjoy elsewhere. I think I'd have more fun chatting with you at an outside table at Consulado, Sir Charles, with Brugal and mixers; and I'm sure I'd learn more about life in the DomRep.[/QUOTE]
I look forward to that sometime, but remember I am fairly new here myself and still have it all to learn.
Incidentally I don't at all criticise K Cirbu. If his time is in shorter supply than his money then he took the right course in hiring Man-Tour (of whom I have heard no bad yet, apart from John at Barba Negra). And I am sure $140 means less to him than $35 does to me so why waste time hunting for bargains? There aren't enough people like him around to drive up prices so he's not hurting us. And he posted an honest and unboastful, "warts and all" report.
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]I always leave my back pockets empty. The front right pocket is my vault for all valuables. Room key, photo copy of passport, Big bills. I never go in this pocket or let anyone near it. Front left pocket is fun money. This is the only pocket I frequent.
Any bullshit I get, receipts, business cards, chicas phone numbers, all go in the rear pocets because these are not valuables.
Keep girls hands above your shoulders when in close. Chicas like to rub your dick. The good feeling you start to get from this lowers your defense.
I got picked several years ago in Classicos. I was feeling good dancing with these two chicas. One in front one in back. I was also getting a dick massage. When I did my count in the morning I was 120usd short. Between the liquor, music, and girls dancing I got caught slipping. Turned out to be a good thing because I would have never thought that could happen to me.
Also don't let the kids linger around you. If they see an opportunity they will get you.
Make sure you develope a comfort zone and defend it. If your comfort zone is violated stand up and step back. Have a "don't fuck with me" look on your face. Depending on the situation, step back two steps and have an exit stagedy. Only fight when you have no other options.
Always watch your back. Alot of guys can come up behind you and put you in a choke hold and your got. Stay around crowds. Beware of strangers that don't show their hands.[/QUOTE]
Excellent advice. I try to follow the exact same procedures including your "pocket drill".
I've been told that the quality of chicas in El Boehm is almost that of Crystal's. I haven't been there in about a year and my past experiences there were that there was 1-2 hotties and the rest did nothing for me. Also always felt they were overpriced. Both places have real honest to God putas, which is a good thing and a bad thing.
[QUOTE=Koki9290]I've been told that the quality of chicas in El Boehm is almost that of Crystal's. I haven't been there in about a year and my past experiences there were that there was 1-2 hotties and the rest did nothing for me. Also always felt they were overpriced. Both places have real honest to God putas, which is a good thing and a bad thing.[/QUOTE]
They seem to have a higher proportion of slim, pale-skinned cibaeñas then anywhere else on the North Coast and these appeal to the more racially prejudiced among rich Dominicans and gringos, which is how they get away with charging such high prices.
Although they charge as much or more than Cristal for drinks and chicas, the ambiance is poky (an awkward L-shaped room) and, whether it is the lighting or something else, some of their chicas don't look too healthy to me. Sort of decadent, and not in a good way.
[QUOTE=Koki9290]Both places have real honest to God putas, which is a good thing and a bad thing.[/QUOTE]
Not sure what you mean by this. In what way do their putas differ professionally from those at, say, Barba Negra or Passions? I have found at all venues a spectrum from experienced and hard-core to "fresh out of the campo and only ever fucked family members".
From Dominican Today: "Dominican Republic authorities announced Wednesday an investigation into the death of a British national Denise D. Courtnay, 60, whose decomposed body was found in a grassy area near the town Cabarete, Sosúa (north). A police source said the foreigner, who owned three apartments in Cabarete and Sosúa, had disappeared one week ago and prompted a search by agents and some residents. "
I have not seen any new information on the murdered American lawyer Art Tarlow.
"A British millionairess strip club owner has been stabbed to death while on holiday in the Dominican Republic. Denise D'Courtenay, 60, had been missing for a week before her decomposing body was discovered in bushes on a beach on the Caribbean holiday island's north coast on Monday. Police are today hunting a military policeman in his early thirties who had allegedly been stalking her. Staff at the hotel where she was staying say they saw Ms D'Courtenay, a former model, with Hector Amauris de la Cruz on the day she disappeared."
Have to be careful.
[QUOTE=Jaosousa]From Dominican Today: "Dominican Republic authorities announced Wednesday an investigation into the death of a British national Denise D. Courtnay, 60, whose decomposed body was found in a grassy area near the town Cabarete, Sosúa (north). A police source said the foreigner, who owned three apartments in Cabarete and Sosúa, had disappeared one week ago and prompted a search by agents and some residents. "
I have not seen any new information on the murdered American lawyer Art Tarlow.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jaosousa]From Dominican Today: "Dominican Republic authorities announced Wednesday an investigation into the death of a British national Denise D. Courtnay, 60, whose decomposed body was found in a grassy area near the town Cabarete, Sosúa (north). A police source said the foreigner, who owned three apartments in Cabarete and Sosúa, had disappeared one week ago and prompted a search by agents and some residents. "
I have not seen any new information on the murdered American lawyer Art Tarlow.[/QUOTE]
The Daily Mail has a more detailed story on Denise D'Courtnay (Dominican Today got her name wrong). She owned a strip club in London and may have been a former stripper herself. Possibly she was being stalked by some guy in the DR. I am sure that more will come out about this story.
[QUOTE=Charles Pooter]They seem to have a higher proportion of slim, pale-skinned cibaeñas then anywhere else on the North Coast and these appeal to the more racially prejudiced among rich Dominicans and gringos, which is how they get away with charging such high prices.[/QUOTE]
Such a limited view through the prism of racism.. humpf!
I like medium to dark skinned women. Does that make me a racist? I see a light skinned woman and nothing happens, I see a brown skinned woman, and my heart jumps pace, my prostate throbs and I immediately consider what she would be like in bed.
Why is it any different for men who simply react the same way to lighter skinned women? Racist? We use that term too much, when a little more depth of thought could explain it accurately.
As far as charging more, they have a niche, and the women who make it there do a better job of maintaining their bodies, their hair, their nails, and clothing. It is an upper echelon from the perspective of appearance (not skin color). Take the same girl and put her in Sosua, with the standard PUTA garb and she'll command Sosua prices.
La Passion, Vikings, El Boheim, and others all have their market, but RACISTS, that's ridiculous. Simply ridiculous and you should be ashamed for assigning that definition to them.
[QUOTE=Bobsthrobbinknob]I see a light skinned woman and nothing happens, I see a brown skinned woman, and my heart jumps pace, [/QUOTE]I know the feeling. My heart does the same thing whenever I see a pink-lined pussy.
Does Anybody has a bus schedule from sosua to sti and whats the best bus to take and also can you catch a bus fromsosua to Sti Airport.
[QUOTE=Stebo419]Does Anybody has a bus schedule from sosua to sti and whats the best bus to take and also can you catch a bus fromsosua to Sti Airport.[/QUOTE]that takes multiple riders to Puerta Plata. Usually it is a Camry, cost is 40 pesos, and not one of those vans that packs 'them in like sardines. From PoP, take a small bus to, el rotondo, in Santiago. Cost is 100 pesos. Then cross the street and then take taxi either to the Matum where you can pick up a van to the airport, or have the taxi take you to the airport. Ask the driver first the cost. It should be around 500 pesos. Total time of travel will be about two and a half to three hours. Getting through Santiago is a *****. Or you can always take the CaribTours bus, big modern superbus from Sosua. Get off at the terminal in Las Colinas, the first stop. The second stop is closer to the airport, but the bus goes through downtown traffic. Take the taxi from there to the airport. Same price, 4 or 500 pesos.
[QUOTE=Stebo419]Does Anybody has a bus schedule from sosua to sti and whats the best bus to take and also can you catch a bus fromsosua to Sti Airport.[/QUOTE]
Caribe Tours schedule is online. I think Metro runs hourly. I don't think either goes direct to Santiago International Airport.
[url]http://www.caribetours.com.do/site/portada/[/url]
[url]http://www.puertoplataguide.com/Buses.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Bobsthrobbinknob]Such a limited view through the prism of racism.. humpf!
I like medium to dark skinned women. Does that make me a racist? I see a light skinned woman and nothing happens, I see a brown skinned woman, and my heart jumps pace, my prostate throbs and I immediately consider what she would be like in bed.
Why is it any different for men who simply react the same way to lighter skinned women? Racist? We use that term too much, when a little more depth of thought could explain it accurately.
La Passion, Vikings, El Boheim, and others all have their market, but RACISTS, that's ridiculous. Simply ridiculous and you should be ashamed for assigning that definition to them.[/QUOTE]
You misunderstand. This is nothing to do with what turns their crank. They may get raging hard-ons when in the proximity of a black girl. It is a question of whom it is socially acceptable for them to be seen with, let alone accompany, when out with their family, friends or business associates. If you don't understand that then you know nothing about the DR.
I said nothing about Passions or Viking. My remarks were specifically aimed at El Bohen and their typical clientele.
[QUOTE=Bobsthrobbinknob]
As far as charging more, they have a niche, and the women who make it there do a better job of maintaining their bodies, their hair, their nails, and clothing. It is an upper echelon from the perspective of appearance (not skin color). Take the same girl and put her in Sosua, with the standard PUTA garb and she'll command Sosua prices.[/QUOTE]
But I am glad you apparently agree that the girls at El Bohen are essentially no better or worse than the girls elsewhere, and that the customers are paying a 3000 peso premium to cover the cost of a 500 peso dress and 50 pesos' worth of warpaint.
I'll be in Sosua from Sept 1st-4th. Anybody else on these boards going? I'm goin solo on this trip. Need a wingman that knows the area. Bottle of henney on me!
[QUOTE=Westy](Picks up a sprig of parsley) What's this?
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I'm impressed. You sure know your history well.
[QUOTE=Riky Rapido]that takes multiple riders to Puerta Plata. Usually it is a Camry, cost is 40 pesos, and not one of those vans that packs 'them in like sardines. From PoP, take a small bus to, el rotondo, in Santiago. Cost is 100 pesos. Then cross the street and then take taxi either to the Matum where you can pick up a van to the airport, or have the taxi take you to the airport. Ask the driver first the cost. It should be around 500 pesos. Total time of travel will be about two and a half to three hours. Getting through Santiago is a *****. Or you can always take the CaribTours bus, big modern superbus from Sosua. Get off at the terminal in Las Colinas, the first stop. The second stop is closer to the airport, but the bus goes through downtown traffic. Take the taxi from there to the airport. Same price, 4 or 500 pesos.[/QUOTE]
Hey man, where are you. Call me.
[QUOTE=Westy](Picks up a sprig of parsley) What's this?
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Just in case anyone wanted a quick history lesson:
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parsley_Massacre[/url]
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Can anyone recommend any good restaurants in Cabarete? Trying to do something different this time around instead of the usual Baileys, Rocky's, Tipico Alberto's, etc. (all are still very good by the way).
No need to mention the restaurant at TL. That's already a given since I'll be staying there :)
[QUOTE=SavePros321]Just in case anyone wanted a quick history lesson:
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parsley_Massacre[/url]
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Can anyone recommend any good restaurants in Cabarete? Trying to do something different this time around instead of the usual Baileys, Rocky's, Tipico Alberto's, etc. (all are still very good by the way).
No need to mention the restaurant at TL. That's already a given since I'll be staying there :)[/QUOTE]
Try Oshays. Jose is an Irishman who moved to the Dominican Republic and set up a restaurant along the beach. It is a restaurant/sports bar and during the superbowl they would set up a big screen on the beach so customers can watch. They have the best shepherds pie I have ever tasted. Highly recommended but I found it a bit pricey for the DR. I go there at least once on every trip. take a carrito there.
[QUOTE=SavePros321]Just in case anyone wanted a quick history lesson:
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parsley_Massacre[/url]
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Can anyone recommend any good restaurants in Cabarete? Trying to do something different this time around instead of the usual Baileys, Rocky's, Tipico Alberto's, etc. (all are still very good by the way).
No need to mention the restaurant at TL. That's already a given since I'll be staying there :)[/QUOTE]
If you are there on a Saturday night, try Tropicoco in Cabarete. They have an all you can eat buffet for around 400P and the food is excellent.
[QUOTE=Streetkings01]I'll be in Sosua from Sept 1st-4th. Anybody else on these boards going? I'm goin solo on this trip. Need a wingman that knows the area. Bottle of henney on me![/QUOTE]Me and My 2 boyz will also be ther from 9/1-9/7. We will be at BB on the1st and coming to sosua at Casa Cayena on the 2nd-7th. Holla at me if you tryna roll with us.
[QUOTE=Koki9290]If you are there on a Saturday night, try Tropicoco in Cabarete. They have an all you can eat buffet for around 400P and the food is excellent.[/QUOTE]What kind of food?
I might go up there.
Let's get back to the topic of pussy por favor! Yo Chief I believe your up to bat. Hit a grand slam for us while your in Sosua and find a real 3some with girl on girl action. Ooh and don't forget about the midget!
P.S. And please remember to refrain from smashing Sade if you see her in the club.
Thats my job.
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[QUOTE=Chief Justice]What kind of food?
I might go up there.[/QUOTE]The place is owned by a European woman. They have fresh bread and butter, tossed salad, pasta salads, potato salads, a few different veggies, 2-3 types of potatoes, roast beef, roast pork, roast chicken, grilled fish (usually dorado), its a pretty complete layout. And a desert table with a great chocolate mousse, fresh fruit and a couple different cakes.
Took four guys there with me in June including two who live in Sosua and they loved it.
[QUOTE=Bobsthrobbinknob]I was referring to the El Boheim situation however. Sure, one can make an argument of racism, but these are NOT girls that the men are walking around with, or shamed by. This is "privado", so the fact that they are red, yellow, black, or white really isn't a SOCIAL problem, it's a personal private preference.[/QUOTE]Hi Bob. We aren't far from agreement, but I can't accept that Dominicans inside El Bohen are in any way "en privado". Firstly, any Dominican who can afford to drink there will be a "name", some known business man, politician or gang boss. And in the DR everybody knows everybody else's business within half hour of something happening. But more importantly, you will invariably see them there in small groups rather than singly or in pairs. They go in groups to show off in front of, or impress, business contacts, family members or members of their or rival syndicates. These are the very people they would not want to see them associating with a dark-skinned chica.
In this connection, I used to lambast the owner of a bar in the Haitian batey in Muñoz for charging the same 400 pesos salida as bars in town, despite the fact his was a tin-hut with a dirt floor and a metal drum to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] in for a toilet. But after a while I realised he was cashing in on exactly that market, Dominican guys who would sneak out there (sure in the knowledge none of their respectable friends would ever see them in that "no go" territory, as they would see it) to dance with or maybe fuck Haitian girls. Either because it was their sexual preference or maybe because it was "forbidden" and therefore more exciting.
[QUOTE=Koki9290]The place is owned by a European woman. They have fresh bread and butter, tossed salad, pasta salads, potato salads, a few different veggies, 2-3 types of potatoes, roast beef, roast pork, roast chicken, grilled fish (usually dorado), its a pretty complete layout. And a desert table with a great chocolate mousse, fresh fruit and a couple different cakes.
Took four guys there with me in June including two who live in Sosua and they loved it.[/QUOTE]You going to be there this week right? Lets go!
[QUOTE=Chief Justice]You going to be there this week right? Lets go![/QUOTE]Sorry but we'll have to do it in Sept.
I'm in La Capital this weekend.
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[QUOTE=Biggdirtyredd]Me and My 2 boyz will also be ther from 9/1-9/7. We will be at BB on the1st and coming to sosua at Casa Cayena on the 2nd-7th. Holla at me if you tryna roll with us.[/QUOTE]I'm wit that!
Just got an email that there will be a Miss New Garden Competition on August 14th.
Free drinks, BBQ, and girls for $20
Anybody there right now? How is the weather? Any good? On my weather forecast it says it's raining the next 7 days... I know I can't trust any weather forecast for the DR.. so I'm asking here...
@ Streetkings01
I'll arrive on Sep 3 for my 4th trip. Where are you staying?
I have always used weather.com and it is usually fairly close.
[QUOTE=Renegade23]Anybody there right now? How is the weather? Any good? On my weather forecast it says it's raining the next 7 days... I know I can't trust any weather forecast for the DR.. so I'm asking here...
@ Streetkings01
I'll arrive on Sep 3 for my 4th trip. Where are you staying?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Thelmas Gone]I have always used weather.com and it is usually fairly close.[/QUOTE]Or night, it comes and goes, and lots of sunshine, weather is not an issue here in the DR. Well, sometimes there is a tropical pattern of several days, but it is rare. Carry an umbrella for the come and go morning, afternoon and evening showers. The weather is hardly a topic of discussion.
[QUOTE=Coolie High]Let's get back to the topic of pussy por favor! Yo Chief I believe your up to bat. Hit a grand slam for us while your in Sosua and find a real 3some with girl on girl action. Ooh and don't forget about the midget!
P.S. And please remember to refrain from smashing Sade if you see her in the club.
Thats my job.[/QUOTE]Its like I previously stated. The same five guys keep this board going. Your seeing now what happens when they arent active. The newbies jump on initially for info but don't give back.
Last trip report that I remember was Coolie Highs. Without the newbies becoming proactive this board will decline. The Santo Domingo board has more interesting chatter at present.
Sure it could be that Sosua has cooled off.
I'm on the Medellin tip right now but Sosua will always be my first love.
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]Its like I previously stated. The same five guys keep this board going. Your seeing now what happens when they arent active. The newbies jump on initially for info but don't give back.
Last trip report that I remember was Coolie Highs. Without the newbies becoming proactive this board will decline. The Santo Domingo board has more interesting chatter at present.
Sure it could be that Sosua has cooled off.
I'm on the Medellin tip right now but Sosua will always be my first love.[/QUOTE]Mr. Gogo,
I believe Oakie has been letting us know about his journey with his girl after my report. We also had special cameos from newbies such as recently as K Cirbu and the other newbie that like to have a dildo up his ass while trying to skeet in a broad mouth(sorry I will never forget that post) lmao.
Yeah I was recently in TJ(check my Tijuana report post) where u get a timed 15 minutes of loving with a dead fish broad. So needless to say I need to get my ass back to Sosua asap
[QUOTE=Coolie High]Mr. Gogo,
I believe Oakie has been letting us know about his journey with his girl after my report. We also had special cameos from newbies such as recently as K Cirbu and the other newbie that like to have a dildo up his ass while trying to skeet in a broad mouth(sorry I will never forget that post) lmao.
Yeah I was recently in TJ(check my Tijuana report post) where u get a timed 15 minutes of loving with a dead fish broad. So needless to say I need to get my ass back to Sosua asap[/QUOTE]You are correct. See you in Sosua.
Peace Fellas. I do not really have a lot to report because my day 1 has been kinda slow. Anyway, I arrive at POP around 245pm and jump into a taxi with a fella I met at the airport. He was staying at Sosua Bay and I am staying at New Garden. I get to new garden and check in. There are a few people around. Few chicas by the pool. I drop off my luggage and then proceed to turn on my phone. I usually go to the place on the corner near the bus station. Now its about 3 sumn but I am waiting bc my amigos are flying in from Jersey at about 430. At this point I am running on fumes bc I was on a 1130 pm flight from Cali and I reached mia around 755a. I can't sleep on planes so I was tired as heck. I walk up to sea breezes to touch bases with Jihad and as we are catching up 2 of my friends arrive and my other homebody they said checked in at new garden. I greet the fellas and then proceed to back to new garded to meet my other homeboy. My homebody at new garden ddnt know my other homeboys from jersey. We had a few conference calls and they got to know each other and basically were good friends once they met at the new york airport. Anyway, my boy is in his room. I give him a phone that he has to turn on to use and I walk with him to get it turned on and to the supermarket. Although, my homie has been to sosua for a night, he has never been in sosua fulltime. Anyway, as we are walking to the supermarket there are several girls on the prowl, greeting us, especially me since I been there several times. I spot one girl in particular that I wanted to hit before but never got around to it. She seems me and puts here arms around me and can't stop kiss me and smiling. At this point I am feeling good but tired as heck. We talk briefly and I get the number. In the back of mind, I'm like I'm fuking her tonight. Her body was looking gooood. My homeboy talks to her friend which looked ok but end of later doing happy hour with her friend and another chick later. Got to luv sosua. I heard the chicks thru the walls moaning and got me so horny I dayum near started to look for my baby oil. Lolol.
We walked by el flows and chicas were everywhere you looked. As far as the eye can C. We get our goods and then go back the room to put in frig. Etc. We went to sea breeze to check in with the other half of the crew to get the plan for the night. We then go back to our rooms to get a kick back before the festivities. At this point I still hvnt not gotten any sleep.
CLASSICOS. We hit classicos kinda early 1130 or so. So I can show my homeboy the set up. Women everywhere but slow but around 1230, it seemed like somebody dropped off women bc the women like sand. Shiiittt. My other homies from jersey were chilling with us at classicos, but one of them who is a sosua vet grabbed a chick he knew and his homebody who is a newbie grabbed her friend. We were sitting downstairs at classicos. Once I saw all the chicas going up the stairs. My homie and I leave them and go up stairs. Ratio like 10: 1 literally. Chicas. Chicas. Chicas. Not a lot over 7-8 but you would of found plenty to put on your mustache for the night. LOL. I'm running around classicos like a kid in toys are us LITERALLY. Chicas grabing me left and right for one bc lots of chicas knew me from before and want a piece of the chief and also the ratio was 10: 1. Most of the guys looked like they came from Mars. I really feel sorry for some of the chicas. I was running around trying to figure out who I am fucking. I ran into an old pieace and decided since I have a lot of history with her and even tho I am on my second wind, I fuk her tonight bc its less stress. When I know there are a lot of chicas watching me, I do not like to walk out with chicas. I whisper in my chicks ear. 'meet me at new garden in 5 mins. She repeats what I said and I say ok. I leave. Now on the way out, I bump into a haitian that I always wanted to fukk but she seemed boring but her ass is sizzling. We talk and I tell her I'll call her manana. Now as I leave her and hit the corner, I get ran down by another chica who I met about 1 yr ago but never fuked. Long story with her but I met her when I first came to sosua, and she wasnt a hard puta. She was sweet. I ddnt get a chance to fuk but when I came bak she asked for 3k. So I put her on the backburner. We been talkin on I'm and now she is like give me what you want to give me. Anyway, she rushes me and says I hve too many chicas and if I don't fuk her tonight, I will never get the pussy. At this point I got the counter in my head bc my other chica is meeting me. So bullshitted her and tell her I will be back. I'm just running to the room to use the bathroom. She is like 'yea right'. Anyway. Back to the hotel I go. At this point its about 15 mins. No chica. I'm like hmmm. I text the chica that I made the appointment with and the chica with all the body from earlier. The one with the body calls me immediately and tell her to come to the chief so she can smell what the chief is cooking. She comes and the session was good even tho I was tired as hell. The other chica end up callin but the chief was knee deep by then
Coolie. No I have not seen sadie.
Does anyone know a girl of about 35 years working as a masseur in Cabarete called Fresian?
Chief,
Nice reporting! I see your enjoying all those honeys down there. See this is why I never use any dominician dating site to pre meet a broad. Once u get to the promise land there are soooo many ladies to choose from that you’ll forget the broad you met online.
Now stay focus thru all that sexy ass and find that heavenly 3some ……and that midget
[QUOTE=Freeman 53]Does anyone know a girl of about 35 years working as a masseur in Cabarete called Fresian?[/QUOTE]
She sounds a real cow.
[QUOTE=Charles Pooter]She sounds a real cow.[/QUOTE]
A Fresian is a horse, you are slipping Pooter.
What is wrong with her, she is only 1/2 your age old boy!
[QUOTE=Buscemi]A Fresian is a horse, you are slipping Pooter.
[/QUOTE]
I am Pooter. I never slip!
[url]http://www.thecattlesite.com/breeds/dairy/24/friesian[/url]
[QUOTE=Buscemi]What is wrong with her, she is only 1/2 your age old boy![/QUOTE]
I make it a rule never to fuck any chica whose grandfather could be older than me. In fact one of my previous regular's great-grandfathers was only five years older than me. Isn't the DR wonderful?
[QUOTE=Buscemi]A Fresian is a horse, you are slipping Pooter.
What is wrong with her, she is only 1/2 your age old boy![/QUOTE]
Sir Pooter is right. How dare you question the Authority?
Friesians were the main dairy cow breed in the UK but now have been replaced by the Holstein breed.
[QUOTE=Charles Pooter]I am Pooter. I never slip!
[url]http://www.thecattlesite.com/breeds/dairy/24/friesian[/url]
I make it a rule never to fuck any chica whose grandfather could be older than me. In fact one of my previous regular's great-grandfathers was only five years older than me. Isn't the DR wonderful?[/QUOTE]Buscemi is a genius.
"The Friesian (also Frisian) is a horse breed originating in Friesland, a province of the Netherlands. Although the breed's conformation resembles that of a light draft horse, Friesians are graceful and nimble for their size. During the Middle Ages, it is believed that the ancestors of Friesian horses were in great demand as war horses throughout continental Europe."
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friesian_horse[/url]
You are both correct. Either way, if the woman resembles a horse or a cow, that is not good, unless you like big women.
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo] The newbies jump on initially for info but don't give back.[/QUOTE]
Well I'm finally breaking away from the office and coming the week after next to celebrate another year of my life. I'll be sure to give back as much as I can and while I don't often get to do repeat visits I think I may have to make Dom. Rep. a regular thing. There is just something about it that seems to be calling me.
As for info I can easily cull this board and figure things out as I go, but there is one question I need to ask. I remember reading awhile ago about some chick named Pumpkin Face or something like that who apparently won Olympic Gold in cocksucking. I need to find this oral artisan, but can't find the old post that mentioned her. Any chance I might coax some info and maybe even idiot-proof directions? If you'd rather wait til I show up and can bribe you with beers on my tab that would be cool too.
Cheers,
2J
[QUOTE=Too Jaded]I remember reading awhile ago about some chick named Pumpkin Face or something like that who apparently won Olympic Gold in cocksucking. I need to find this oral artisan, but can't find the old post that mentioned her. Any chance I might coax some info and maybe even idiot-proof directions?[/QUOTE]
Funny you ask that, because I spent a few minutes driving around Sosua looking for the place upon remembering the same report. Maybe I should've asked for turn by turn directions from the New Garden. There's something about 40 year old women with knob polishing skills that always attract my attention. Here is the report:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1035046&postcount=6047[/url]
[QUOTE=Coolie High]Mr. Gogo,
I believe Oakie has been letting us know about his journey with his girl after my report. We also had special cameos from newbies such as recently as K Cirbu and the other newbie that like to have a dildo up his ass while trying to skeet in a broad mouth(sorry I will never forget that post) lmao.[/QUOTE]Hey Coolio, I'm still alive and kicking.
Not much to report tho. The chica sorta screwed my schedule by arranging to come up to visit me. A bad translation screwed up the dates, then she has family in from the States for all of August. Bottom line I haven't been to Sosua paradiso since April, and I'm missing it like hell. Never had the kind of fun you guys have down there, but what the hell, at my age I can't handle all that shit. That's YOUR job, and I'll just read and enjoy.
She says she'll be here end of August so we'll see if it happens. I'll post what happens when you take a chica out of her home base. If she handles herself half as well up here as she does down there we'll have a good time.
Trick is to keep it like a big joke and don't take it serious. Mi vida, mi cielo, mi principe and all that shit. Just enjoy it and see if she manages to f****k things up. She's surprised me by her stayin power for the last 18 months, so I think she's real happy with the relationship. I was thinking we'd never get past the first week, but hey!
Worst case - she pisses me off - she goes home - I get to be free in Sosua paradiso again and I'll be lookin for the midget's phone no.
I'm lovin it.
[QUOTE=Panman]Funny you ask that, because I spent a few minutes driving around Sosua looking for the place upon remembering the same report. Maybe I should've asked for turn by turn directions from the New Garden. There's something about 40 year old women with knob polishing skills that always attract my attention. Here is the report:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1035046&postcount=6047[/url][/QUOTE]
The older women is in Salon Figaro on the right hand side of Calle Ayuntimiento, same side as Eddy Sport's bar! Make a left at SUPER SUPER liquor store and it is about 1/2 a mile down on your right. She trys to get 3K out of you, but will give you a Completa for a Grand, maybe a small propina!
Pumpkin Head is the younger one that works there, maybe 22, a bit plump, but she gives a great rushed BBBJ for RD500. I am happy to share my secret BBBJ spots, but guys please stick to these prices.
One more great BBBJ spot is the back of the salon just to the right of Happy Bar, RD500 and they will clean your pipes, it is a real Salon, so be casual walking in asking for head!
Thanks, Buscemi. I promise: not a peso more!
[QUOTE=Buscemi]The older women is in Salon Figaro on the right hand side of Calle Ayuntimiento, same side as Eddy Sport's bar! Make a left at SUPER SUPER liquor store and it is about 1/2 a mile down on your right. She trys to get 3K out of you, but will give you a Completa for a Grand, maybe a small propina!
Pumpkin Head is the younger one that works there, maybe 22, a bit plump, but she gives a great rushed BBBJ for RD500. I am happy to share my secret BBBJ spots, but guys please stick to these prices.
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Doesnt that cause problems? How can you pay two women who work in the salon different prices for the same service? if you pay the older woamn 1K, wont PH get mad when you offer her 500pesos?
Is this massage place before you cross Dr.Alejo Martinez?
I guess I am jaded because I am totally not impressed with the talent during the week in Sosua. I guess I have been in country too long.
[QUOTE=Oakie]Worst case - she pisses me off - she goes home - I get to be free in Sosua paradiso again and I'll be lookin for the midget's phone no.[/QUOTE]Oakie,
Worst case scenario is that she’ll be stalking ur ass even after you breakup. She will not give up on her meal ticket that easy lol! Hey but keep us all posted on when ur girl comes to America. That should be very interesting
P.S. Chief has the midgets number lmfao
Just curious if Sosua has any kind of significant massage parlor style scene comparable to the very abundant MP situation in say San Jose. I do enjoy the MP setup.
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Bravo]Doesnt that cause problems? How can you pay two women who work in the salon different prices for the same service? if you pay the older woamn 1K, wont PH get mad when you offer her 500pesos?[/QUOTE]
The Abuela is the Broker, and PH is just a Sales Agent of BBBJ Salon-Figaro S.A., so it is a win win for Abuela as she gets a cut of every cock PH sucks, whether it be RD500 or RD1500! PH may suck 4 cocks an hour, while Abuela is lucky she gets one FS a day.
At the end of the day, all that really matters is PH feeds her mini Pumpkins and Abuela takes care of her grandchildren's school uniforms, and you have no leche left!
[QUOTE=Buscemi]The older women is in Salon Figaro on the right hand side of Calle Ayuntimiento, same side as Eddy Sport's bar! Make a left at SUPER SUPER liquor store and it is about 1/2 a mile down on your right. She trys to get 3K out of you, but will give you a Completa for a Grand, maybe a small propina!
Pumpkin Head is the younger one that works there, maybe 22, a bit plump, but she gives a great rushed BBBJ for RD500. I am happy to share my secret BBBJ spots, but guys please stick to these prices.
![/QUOTE]
Does that RD500 include the 300RD for the massage? So 500 total or 500 for the BJ + the 300 for the massage for a total of RD800?
[QUOTE=Bravo]Does that RD500 include the 300RD for the massage? So 500 total or 500 for the BJ + the 300 for the massage for a total of RD800?[/QUOTE]
You are killing me, it's RD500 to drop a load in her mouth and leave, you need to go to La Passion and get a "massage" for RD1300, or go to Kiki/M&M for a dynamite traditional massage for RD600.
This is monger 101, EVERYTHING is negotiable in RD, not set in stone, you want a massage plus BBBJ ask for it, and tell them what you are paying, don't ASK! Not every establishment/provider is point and click my friend.
[QUOTE=Buscemi]You are killing me, it's RD500 to drop a load in her mouth and leave, you need to go to La Passion and get a "massage" for RD1300, or go to Kiki/M&M for a dynamite traditional massage for RD600.
This is monger 101, EVERYTHING is negotiable in RD, not set in stone, you want a massage plus BBBJ ask for it, and tell them what you are paying, don't ASK! Not every establishment/provider is point and click my friend.[/QUOTE]
Thx for your patience. I have that attitude that "the only dumb queston is the one you do not ask". I am headed down on wed, I will just negociate for the BJ and skip the massage.
[QUOTE=Bravo]Thx for your patience. I have that attitude that "the only dumb queston is the one you do not ask". I am headed down on wed, I will just negociate for the BJ and skip the massage.[/QUOTE]
No problema, ask away!
You really should be able to find 30 minute neck/back rub with a BBBJ finale for RD700-800 these days. These chicas move around so you may not always find a PH on the first mission. She no longer has bright orange hair, but still retains the name in my chica nomenclature.
PS: Did I meet you @ Herman's a few years ago?
[QUOTE=Buscemi]No problema, ask away!
You really should be able to find 30 minute neck/back rub with a BBBJ finale for RD700-800 these days. These chicas move around so you may not always find a PH on the first mission. She no longer has bright orange hair, but still retains the name in my chica nomenclature.
PS: Did I meet you @ Herman's a few years ago?[/QUOTE]
Uh oh, I didnt know the girls move around from salon to salon. I guess I better start collecting cell numbers. I doubt if we have met, my very first trip to the DR was in June. Headed back for a 5 day trip this week. I will keep the 800 pesos price in my head when negociating this week for the massage and BJ. Thx for the help!
I wake up the next day with the chica and we get it in again and she leaves, but come to find out she left her phone and earrings. Anyway, my homie who is staying in new garden with me and my homeboys come from sea breeze to eat with us. We are chilling changing war stories and we see a chica with a nice ass getting her I'd bc she was with one of new gardens customers. As she get her I'd she sees us starring so of course she comes and says Hi. We can tell she is a major freak and my boys frm sea breeze proposition her for a train. She is with it and they proceed to sea breeze. They filmed this broad and she gets it INNN.
We go to the beach to get my fish(I do this religiously) and I spot a chica who is cute and wanted to give the chief a piece before but she was just ok so I never got with her. More on this crazy broad later.
From the beach we go to sit at la rumba to drink and spot the chicas and again. Chicas everywhere. Geez. We are drinking and networking. I got several chicas numbers. I then got bak to the room to get my head right.
Classicos. Shiiiit. Classicos is pack with chicas. Again I was like a kid in toys are us again. I was sitting at a table with jihad and the chicas were daym near in line to talk to the chief. I would do my rounds just to touch bases but since there is a man shortage. Espcially good looking men like the chief(I'm diggin talking in third persn. Lolo) women could not leave me alone. I litteraly and chicas on the left and right tryng to pull me in their direction. The chief had to really and truly walk downstairs just go get a breather. But your commander and chief luvs the girls so I had to give them what they wanted. Lolol. Every chicas I wld talk to would tell me all the chicas were looking for me. I'm laughing like wow. Have to lov SOSUA. And oh, that crazy chica from the beach from earlier would follow me around and try to tell every chica that I was her man and she did not care bc she loved me so much. Lololoo. The chief was getting very angry but I really had to laugh bc the shyt was funny
At the end of the night I settled for a cute chica. Probably around 7. We go back to the room and do our do. She was just ok. She was almost a dead fish until the chief stuck it in her. I didn't like that bc I like for the chica to be anxious to please the chief. LOL
Coolie, I hope you are sitting down. A SAW SADIE. I was having bfast and was talking to some country guy and he said he had a chica in the room and she had a nice place in caberette (sounded familiar). I asked if she looked like sade. He said yes. Showed me a pic. Its your novia! He wifed her up for 5 days so far. Lolol. Don't commit suicide. Lolol. He said she been tossin his salad and the whole nine. I was like dayyuummm. Coolie eating leftovers. Lolol. The next day I saw them 2 eating bfast together
Yow kenny, send me a pm with your math.
Bravo, Buscemi and Too Jaded. Thank you very much for your posts. I always find myself down in the DR looking for great oral talent but I guess I'm a bad scout. I never understood why people go to Passions so much when there are so many massage places available and you could probably get better deals there but I can't judge since I never been to Passions.
I will look for this PH legend. I remember reading about this one girl Margarita who works at a massage parlor across from Belkis massage parlor. I believe the hotel next to it is Casa Cayena and its on the same block as the ice cream place. I've had her and she can deep throat but in my experiences she has been a little lazy with her work.
I appreciate your posts guys keep up the good work.
[QUOTE=Buscemi]... it is a real Salon, so be casual walking in asking for head![/QUOTE]
I was going to ask you what exactly you mean by 'salon' as in my head I am imagining a bunch of blue-haired viejas getting perms, all watching me with suspicion as I walk in. But the inner-monger in me kind of wants to figure the rest out on my own. With location and price guidelines I should do just fine and may even walk out with a funny story (me walking in and pantomiming a BBBJ) to share with you guys afterwards.
[QUOTE=Chief Justice]Coolie, I hope you are sitting down. A SAW SADIE. I was having bfast and was talking to some country guy and he said he had a chica in the room and she had a nice place in caberette (sounded familiar). I asked if she looked like sade. He said yes. Showed me a pic. Its your novia! He wifed her up for 5 days so far. Lolol. Don't commit suicide. Lolol. He said she been tossin his salad and the whole nine. I was like dayyuummm. Coolie eating leftovers. Lolol. The next day I saw them 2 eating bfast together[/QUOTE]And you wonder why I was adamant about NOT sending this broad money. WHY? Cus I don't trust it. LOL! Naw but Sade have to eat too. I'm not mad at her. If you have to eat ass to pay the rent then so be it. Times are tough these days.
BTW your boy was getting sloppy seconds not ol Coolie High! Found her first so I would advised your boy to not kiss that broad. I put my signature a FEW times on her lips and face
Let this be a lesson to ALL NEWBIES that go to Sosua and fall inlove and want to wife her up. I don't care how fine she is or how many times she calls your ass if you think she's going to be faithful while your living in another country you lost your damn mind. Don't trust it.
Good posting Chief! Now get to the part about the damn midget. LOL
[QUOTE=Too Jaded]I was going to ask you what exactly you mean by 'salon' as in my head I am imagining a bunch of blue-haired viejas getting perms, all watching me with suspicion as I walk in. But the inner-monger in me kind of wants to figure the rest out on my own. With location and price guidelines I should do just fine and may even walk out with a funny story (me walking in and pantomiming a BBBJ) to share with you guys afterwards.[/QUOTE]Funny I pictured madge from old palmolive comerical
[QUOTE=Chief Justice]I wake up the next day with the chica and we get it in again and she leaves, but come to find out she left her phone and earrings. Anyway, my homie who is staying in new garden with me and my homeboys come from sea breeze to eat with us. We are chilling changing war stories and we see a chica with a nice ass getting her I'd bc she was with one of new gardens customers. As she get her I'd she sees us starring so of course she comes and says Hi. We can tell she is a major freak and my boys frm sea breeze proposition her for a train. She is with it and they proceed to sea breeze. They filmed this broad and she gets it INNN.
We go to the beach to get my fish(I do this religiously) and I spot a chica who is cute and wanted to give the chief a piece before but she was just ok so I never got with her. More on this crazy broad later.
From the beach we go to sit at la rumba to drink and spot the chicas and again. Chicas everywhere. Geez. We are drinking and networking. I got several chicas numbers. I then got bak to the room to get my head right.
Classicos. Shiiiit. Classicos is pack with chicas. Again I was like a kid in toys are us again. I was sitting at a table with jihad and the chicas were daym near in line to talk to the chief. I would do my rounds just to touch bases but since there is a man shortage. Espcially good looking men like the chief(I'm diggin talking in third persn. Lolo) women could not leave me alone. I litteraly and chicas on the left and right tryng to pull me in their direction. The chief had to really and truly walk downstairs just go get a breather. But your commander and chief luvs the girls so I had to give them what they wanted. Lolol. Every chicas I wld talk to would tell me all the chicas were looking for me. I'm laughing like wow. Have to lov SOSUA. And oh, that crazy chica from the beach from earlier would follow me around and try to tell every chica that I was her man and she did not care bc she loved me so much. Lololoo. The chief was getting very angry but I really had to laugh bc the shyt was funny
At the end of the night I settled for a cute chica. Probably around 7. We go back to the room and do our do. She was just ok. She was almost a dead fish until the chief stuck it in her. I didn't like that bc I like for the chica to be anxious to please the chief. LOL
Coolie, I hope you are sitting down. A SAW SADIE. I was having bfast and was talking to some country guy and he said he had a chica in the room and she had a nice place in caberette (sounded familiar). I asked if she looked like sade. He said yes. Showed me a pic. Its your novia! He wifed her up for 5 days so far. Lolol. Don't commit suicide. Lolol. He said she been tossin his salad and the whole nine. I was like dayyuummm. Coolie eating leftovers. Lolol. The next day I saw them 2 eating bfast together
Yow kenny, send me a pm with your math.[/QUOTE]
Is the country guy the dude that wears glasses at night and walks around with the hennessey bottle. If so, that guy is funny. I guess Sadie is the Alicia Silverstone look alike.
[blue]Greetings everyone,
In recognition of his many great contributions to the Forum, I have given Ayyyypapi his own thread titled "Ayyyypapi in the Dominican Republic".
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2227[/url]
Those of you who wish to join him in the discussions in his new thread are welcome to do so.
I've also moved all of his previous "contributions" to this new thread, creating "[i]The Collected Works of Ayyyypapi in the Dominican Republic[/i]" for those of you who are interested.
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
Hey Guys,
First of all I want to say I am in awe of your knowledge, guidance , and openness you have with newbies to the D.R. As well to newbies to mongering in general.
My background:
Senior Member
Join Date:*06-14-02
Paid membership to ISG.
I have been doing my thing in America and Thailand but now I want to try D.R.
I have just a few short questions.
1. As a newbie, fat, non Spanish speaker, I have gathered that the best way to ease into this is go the Sosua -BB route.
2. Any ISG members discount/upgrades at BB's?.
3. A man tour?
4. How much to fly between Santa Domingo and POP?
5. What about small gifts for the WG's , Tee shirts from Texas,key chains or what do you think would “grease the wheels”?
6. Cheep way to get a local phone?.
Any other quick advice would be great and I thank all of you in advance
[QUOTE=DownTowner]Hey Guys,
First of all I want to say I am in awe of your knowledge, guidance , and openness you have with newbies to the D.R. As well to newbies to mongering in general.
My background:
Senior Member
Join Date:*06-14-02
Paid membership to ISG.
I have been doing my thing in America and Thailand but now I want to try D.R.
I have just a few short questions.
1. As a newbie, fat, non Spanish speaker, I have gathered that the best way to ease into this is go the Sosua -BB route.
2. Any ISG members discount/upgrades at BB's?.
3. A man tour?
4. How much to fly between Santa Domingo and POP?
5. What about small gifts for the WG's , Tee shirts from Texas,key chains or what do you think would “grease the wheels”?
6. Cheep way to get a local phone?.
Any other quick advice would be great and I thank all of you in advance[/QUOTE]I can't answer all, DownTowner, but I'll step up to those I can ... [quote=Ponderosa]At BBs you get the controlled environment of "working girls" sitting around waiting for you to "ask them out" in a small gated community.
In Sosua you get the semi-controlled environment of "working girls" going to the disco at night waiting for you to "ask them out" in what doubles as a resort town.[/quote]BB's is very good, i think, for someone who doesn't speak Spanish and who is new to the DomRep scene. Certainly I liked it a lot - though I do speak some Spanish. That being said, my next DomRep trip will be part Sosua, part BB's.
BB's does not, to my knowledge, offer "discounts/upgrades" to ISG members. But their regular prices are, IMHO, [i]very[/i] reasonable. Plus, their food is good, their beer is cold, and I was able to coach the bartender to make a very decent caipirinha (well, caipiRONha, as they had no cachaca).
The Man Tour is pretty good for a newbie, I think. At any rate I enjoyed it. Ed is an expat American who is fluent in Spanish and has lived in PP for some years. He drives you around to the "hot spots" of Puerto Plata, or Sosua if you prefer; he "covers your six" as necessary, helps negotiate with the chicas, and gives you a decent introduction to the night-life. I didn't take quite so full advantage of the Tour, as I was going scuba-diving early the next morning; but I felt I got my money's worth. (My report: [post]1034724[/post])
SDQ-POP flights, I haven't got a clue. I flew American from Miami straight into POP. No doubt DFW-MIA-POP would be about the same.
Chica gifts? I'd be thinking more on the line of items slightly more "personal" than Texas T-shirts or especially keychains. ... You know, swim caps might be nice - a lot of them spend their afternoons in the pool, they spend quite a lot on having their hair done, and something that would help them keep their hair nice could be quite welcome.
I've heard that the Claro outlets are pretty good for inexpensive phones. Any unlocked GSM phone should work, though; just put in a local SIM card, buy some phone-time for it, and you'd be good to go....
Hope this helps.
Speaking absolutely no Spanish can make things a little difficult. If you live alone, you can usually change the cable television settings so that you can see subtitles in English or Spanish on you television (depending what language they are speaking) or watch DVD movies that offer Spanish subtitles, is a way to learn some Spanish somewhat painlessly.
Learn a few words such as: Cuanto (how much). You don't need to speak Spanish to have fun in Dom Rep, but knowing some basic Spanish words for mongering will be useful.
Claro and Orange are the two biggest cell phone companies. I have never used Orange. Claro has phone shops in every town. A cheapy ZTE brand cell phone with 100 pesos in minutes included costs about 500 pesos at Claro.
Blackbeards is getting excellent reviews.
Sosua is fairly easy. If you stay at New Garden Hotel more than likely you will meet fellow mongers who may be able to help you out with translations and advice on the ground.
Any gift you may want to give is usually appreciated by the chicas.
Some guys bring chocolate to share with the chicas, or Baileys alcohol.
Plenty of big guys in Dom Rep. Plenty of big guys with fine chicas in Dom Rep.
You may want to split your time between Blackbeards and Sosua, maybe do the first three nights at Blackbeards and then move to Sosua for your last three nights.
[QUOTE=DownTowner]Hey Guys,
First of all I want to say I am in awe of your knowledge, guidance, and openness you have with newbies to the D. R. As well to newbies to mongering in general.
My background:
Senior Member
Join Date: *06-14-02
Paid membership to ISG.
I have been doing my thing in America and Thailand but now I want to try D. R.
I have just a few short questions.
1. As a newbie, fat, non Spanish speaker, I have gathered that the best way to ease into this is go the Sosua.BB route.
2. Any ISG members discount/upgrades at BB's?.
3. A man tour?
4. How much to fly between Santa Domingo and POP?
5. What about small gifts for the WG's, Tee shirts from Texas, key chains or what do you think would "grease the wheels"?
6. Cheep way to get a local phone?.
Any other quick advice would be great and I thank all of you in advance[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Westy]I can't answer all, DownTowner, but I'll step up to those I can ... BB's is very good, i think, for someone who doesn't speak Spanish and who is new to the DomRep scene. Certainly I liked it a lot - though I do speak some Spanish. That being said, my next DomRep trip will be part Sosua, part BB's.
BB's does not, to my knowledge, offer "discounts/upgrades" to ISG members. But their regular prices are, IMHO, [i]very[/i] reasonable. Plus, their food is good, their beer is cold, and I was able to coach the bartender to make a very decent caipirinha (well, caipiRONha, as they had no cachaca).
The Man Tour is pretty good for a newbie, I think. At any rate I enjoyed it. Ed is an expat American who is fluent in Spanish and has lived in PP for some years. He drives you around to the "hot spots" of Puerto Plata, or Sosua if you prefer; he "covers your six" as necessary, helps negotiate with the chicas, and gives you a decent introduction to the night-life. I didn't take quite so full advantage of the Tour, as I was going scuba-diving early the next morning; but I felt I got my money's worth. (My report: [post]1034724[/post])
SDQ-POP flights, I haven't got a clue. I flew American from Miami straight into POP. No doubt DFW-MIA-POP would be about the same.
Chica gifts? I'd be thinking more on the line of items slightly more "personal" than Texas T-shirts or especially keychains. ... You know, swim caps might be nice - a lot of them spend their afternoons in the pool, they spend quite a lot on having their hair done, and something that would help them keep their hair nice could be quite welcome.
I've heard that the Claro outlets are pretty good for inexpensive phones. Any unlocked GSM phone should work, though; just put in a local SIM card, buy some phone-time for it, and you'd be good to go....
Hope this helps.[/QUOTE]There's no good way to fly from SDQ to POP. There has been and may still be small plane service once or twice a day but it's expensive and probably doesn't coordinate well with your flights. You can take a bus from Santo Domingo and be in Sosua in 4 or 5 hours (including 45 minutes in the cab to get to the station).
Little feminine gifts like cute panties (which can be a buck or two at discount stores), lipsticks, perfume.
A cheap gsm phone with an hour of time was about 500 pesos complete in the box with charger last time I was there (less than $15). It's good to use a cheap phone, an Iphone can get you robbed. If you bring a phone from home leave it in the safe. Many chicas are at any given time phoneless and the your cheap phone makes a very desirable gift on departure to such a needy chica (she can be expected to show more gratitude for a 500 peso phone if she needs one than for the 500 pesos themselves). I think most low end models will text, and that's often a better option than trying to speak bad spanish over the phone (which it seems to me is much harder than speaking in person where you can see their reaction and gesture.)
Slightly better models you buy unlocked GSM on ebay can earn major credit as a last day gift with fresher chicas (though not likely the ones at BBs or Classicos). To some chicas fresh from the campo a phone like that is only earned with days of anything you want, anytime you want it, Papi.
All I can Say is WOW, I am ready to go and I think I'll know what I'm doing.
Mr Jackson, Users like these:
Westy -Jaosousa -Marc Anthony are your biggest assets
Again thanks guys...you rock
[QUOTE=Buscemi]One more great BBBJ spot is the back of the salon just to the right of Happy Bar, RD500 and they will clean your pipes, it is a real Salon, so be casual walking in asking for head![/QUOTE]Uhhh. Just how in the fuck am I supposed to be casual when walking in asking for head?
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Uhhh. Just how in the fuck am I supposed to be casual when walking in asking for head?[/QUOTE]
I tried to share a few off the beaten path BBBJ spots on this site, apparantly
everybody needs point and click these days.
Stick with La Passion or Fred's so there is no misunderstanding what your intentions are!
[QUOTE=Westy] I didn't take quite so full advantage of the Tour, as I was going scuba-diving early the next morning; .[/QUOTE]
Westy - How was the diving in POP. Is the diving quality worth bringing your own equipment for daylies?
[QUOTE=DownTowner]All I can Say is WOW, I am ready to go and I think I'll know what I'm doing.
Mr Jackson, Users like these:
Westy -Jaosousa -Marc Anthony are your biggest assets
Again thanks guys...you rock[/QUOTE]Just the fact they did not say RTFF says a lot for the guys on the DR forum. I personally appreciate the new or fresh information over a year old post which may no longer apply.
I know Mr. GoGo would like to see more new people post but it is hard to help a person if you have only been to the DR a couple of times yourself and some of these guys could be travel writers rather than mongers so it is hard for a less experienced person to like they can contribute.
I would like to join DownTower in showing my appreciation to the main contributers to this board and hope some day I to can share my experiences with newbies.
BM
[QUOTE=LuvBlkWomen]Westy - How was the diving in POP. Is the diving quality worth bringing your own equipment for daylies?[/QUOTE]
I thought the diving was pretty good. Of course, Hispaniola is a volcanic island - there's enough runoff that you don't get the "gin-clear" waters of a coral island like the Caymans or Cozumel. The reefs are quite healthy, although you will see the occasional few bleached-out soft corals (they look like a bare tree in the winter). I didn't see any really big fish, but the usual suspects were all around - parrotfish, triggerfish, sergeant-majors, a few lionfish (that should be speared!), the occasional "interesting character" (once a semi-buried ray, once a small spotted moray) and plenty of the smaller ones that hide out in the soft corals like sparrows in a tree.
I bring my own equipment because I'm used to it and I like it the way I have it set up. For my BC, I use a Transpac harness with Trek wings and integrated weight pockets - I won't find [i]that[/i] in a shop's rental gear, will I? And my regulator is a "semi-Hogarthian" setup, with a 7-foot hose for my primary (I wrap it around me, bandolier-style) and a bungie necklace to keep my octo around my neck. I tell my buddies that if they need air, just grab my primary out of my mouth.
Blackbeard's dive excursions are handled by Diwa Dominica; their shop is in Puerto Plata, across the highway from the Brugal Rum warehouse, but they truck you to Sosua Bay for their diving excursions. They have a "six-pack" panga for the dives; no shelter aboard, so bring a hat and maybe sunscreen. Two guides and three to five customers - a very good ratio.
Next trip, I'll go to Sosua the first few days, to be next-door to the diving, then finish up with a couple of "deco days" with Barba Negra. "John from NJ" recommended Scuba Elite in Sosua, and I want to give them a try; otherwise I might meet Diwa at the Sosua boat-ramp. (Northern Coast was a cattle-car dive operation, according to John....)
We aren't going to the Dom Rep for the diving, but it's a nice bonus to dive in warm water and it's a "licit" excuse for the trip.
Hope this helps - Westy
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Uhhh. Just how in the fuck am I supposed to be casual when walking in asking for head?[/QUOTE]Walk in giver her a lollipop, see how she works it over.
"Stick with La Passion or Fred's"
Whats Freds?
Kaiju
[QUOTE=Bogiemaker]Just the fact they did not say RTFF says a lot for the guys on the DR forum. I personally appreciate the new or fresh information over a year old post which may no longer apply.
I know Mr. GoGo would like to see more new people post but it is hard to help a person if you have only been to the DR a couple of times yourself and some of these guys could be travel writers rather than mongers so it is hard for a less experienced person to like they can contribute.
I would like to join DownTower in showing my appreciation to the main contributers to this board and hope some day I to can share my experiences with newbies.
BM[/QUOTE]I actually prefer when newbies share their expiriences with us. Coolie high and Oakie are prime example's of newbie's giving you the good and bad and being honest about their adventure's. It remind's us of our first time.
I alway's said a newbie's first couple report's are the best because they have no fear. Once they a seasoned vets they are scared of making mistake's.
After my first trip to the DR I was driving to the airport solo singing Spanish love songs. And I didn't speak Spanish. She put on this newbie, but don't tell anyone.
Hey guys,
What are my options for traveling between Cabarete, Sosua and Puerto Plata? Taxi, Bus? Or is renting a car/Van better? Man, it's real work trying to find Ocean view Chica friendly hotels. At least it's hard for me. Anyone got any help on this? I'd appeciate it, believe me.
Kaiju
[QUOTE=Buscemi]I tried to share a few off the beaten path BBBJ spots on this site, apparantly
everybody needs point and click these days.
Stick with La Passion or Fred's so there is no misunderstanding what your intentions are![/QUOTE]I wish you had your own forum on the board for these BBBJ spots and specialists. I'm not a la passion kind of guy but what is Fred's??
I would love to have a woman who can go all day whenever I wanted. I also want to know more about this pumpkinhead and others like her.
Thanks again for your posts.
[QUOTE=Kaiju]Hey guys,
What are my options for traveling between Cabarete, Sosua and Puerto Plata? Taxi, Bus? Or is renting a car/Van better? Man, it's real work trying to find Ocean view Chica friendly hotels. At least it's hard for me. Anyone got any help on this? I'd appeciate it, believe me.
Kaiju[/QUOTE]You can go to Sosua Bay Hotel.
You do not really need to rent a car to go from Cabarete, Sosua and PP unless you really want to.
[QUOTE=Kaiju]Hey guys,
What are my options for traveling between Cabarete, Sosua and Puerto Plata? Taxi, Bus? Or is renting a car/Van better? Man, it's real work trying to find Ocean view Chica friendly hotels. At least it's hard for me. Anyone got any help on this? I'd appeciate it, believe me.
Kaiju[/QUOTE]In my experiences I've noticed that taxi guys (the ones who drive to and from the airport) along with the local car guys (the ones that make numerous stops and pick up numerous passengers) all don't mind giving you their cell phone number and are more than happy to take you whereever you want to go.
The taxi's who don't make the stops to pick up others will charge you more. But I've also learned that the local car guys are willing to negotiate to take you wherever you want to go. I remember going to the airport for 300 to 500 pesos in one from sosua (by the way I paid that much so I could travel alone and direct with no stops).
In DR its really about what you negotiate and the contacts you make. So I'm pretty sure you can find someone willing to drive you whereever you want to go for a price, just ask for their card or number.
About the chica friendly hotels, they are out there but I'm not sure if they are ocean view. I've only stayed at Don Antonio and New Garden and they are no definitely arent ocean view but they are definitely chica friendly. Sosua Bay has a guest house that is like 50 bucks a night last time I saw, this was last year around this time. Its right next to Sosua beach and its 2 all inclusive hotels but I noticed when I saw another entrance there was a beach house, I went inside and questioned a bit and found out the beach house or beach club isn't all inclusive and I believe they allow you one guest.
[QUOTE=Kaiju]Hey guys,
What are my options for traveling between Cabarete, Sosua and Puerto Plata? Taxi, Bus? Or is renting a car/Van better? Man, it's real work trying to find Ocean view Chica friendly hotels. At least it's hard for me. Anyone got any help on this? I'd appeciate it, believe me.
Kaiju[/QUOTE]Are you familiar with the terrain? That determine's your options.
Private taxi between Sosua and Cabarette is 15usd but public taxi is about 50pesos.
Please excuse my silliness but is the ocean front hotel for you or the chica? and why?
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Uhhh. Just how in the fuck am I supposed to be casual when walking in asking for head?[/QUOTE]
Don't say anything conspicuous or rude. Just walk in with a raging boner which is the passive internationally recognized sign least prone to being lost in translation. Get a shave while you're at it, but maintain the erection; it should tent the apron they put on you and be impossible to look away from.
Seriously, I have tried yet but I think that all that is needed is a certain kind of eye contact to get your desire across.
[QUOTE=Kaiju]Hey guys,
What are my options for traveling between Cabarete, Sosua and Puerto Plata? Taxi, Bus? Or is renting a car/Van better? Man, it's real work trying to find Ocean view Chica friendly hotels. At least it's hard for me. Anyone got any help on this? I'd appeciate it, believe me.
Kaiju[/QUOTE]Are you going for the view of the ocean or to bang chicas?
[QUOTE=Kaiju]Hey guys,
What are my options for traveling between Cabarete, Sosua and Puerto Plata? Taxi, Bus? Or is renting a car/Van better? Man, it's real work trying to find Ocean view Chica friendly hotels. At least it's hard for me. Anyone got any help on this? I'd appeciate it, believe me.
Kaiju[/QUOTE]When I'm with my regular, for routine travel between these places, shopping, taking the kids out etc. we never take a taxi, but use the local cars and vans that seem to regularly ply the route picking up passengers here and there. I think it's called publico?
It's a great deal, only costs a few pesos, compared to the standard taxi fare of 25 US, but it may get a little crowded sometimes.
Problem is, the locals know when and where to wait for it, but I'd never find it on my own.
Anybody here know the routine?
For aiport trips and an evening out we usually take a taxi.
[QUOTE=Uhhh. Just how in the fuck am I supposed to be casual when walking in asking for head?[/quote]Just ask for regular F/S.
They'll probably throw in the head.
LOL
[QUOTE=John from NJ] I gave the NG girls 1200 to 1500 for ST, Margareta 2000 per night, and the La Passion girls 2500 to 3500 with a 500 tip. I enjoyed their services & had no problems with any of them.[/QUOTE]Great REPORT-THANKS. Everything I needed to know. This will be my second trip and I feel that I will have much more control!
Not clear on how much you paid for La Passion girls. Did you pay LP 2500 for take out and an additional 3000-4000 to the girl? Not sure how much to budget for each girl per nite. Can anyone clairfy?
Thanks!
This is my first trip to the DR, and in the interest of honesty and clarity I am going to try and report episodically as things happen. It is meant to share a newbie's insights for the benefit of those that follow, as well as an opportunity for a bullshit check against from the veterans. Bottom line is while I didn't all out fail or act like as asshole I paid a little bit too much and didn't get the most for my dollar; I will need to make some minor course corrections as I proceed through the week.
As for me, I am in my latter thirties, as gringo as they come, speak passable gringo spanish, and am normal looking. I've never been married either but I am am a sympatico sweetheart to these girls. I've spent most of my mongering while traveling through the middle-east or asia on business but have also been lucky enough to hit both Costa Rica and MDE in the past couple of years.
I arrived yesterday via MIA with light baggage; I hate traveling heavy so I plan on using the lavanderia at least once in my seven days. You have to pay US$10 at the airport for a tourist card, pass through immigration, and then have a cursory bag check. It was all very low key and I wasn't shaken down for any propinas along the way. I arranged with the Hotel New Garden for a taxi pickup for US$20 this trip, but when you exit the airport there will be a mob of taxi drivers vying for your business if you like to negotiate over nickels and dimes.
The ride to Sosua is less then ten minutes from there. I was surprised with how easily I conversed with my taxi driver Silvio. I am far from fluent and rarely get a chance to speak Spanish but sometimes my mind unblocks and I do much better (this also happens when I've had a few but not too many drinks).
Checked in at the hotel with Omar which was very easy. I got a top floor room with the jacuzzi. Fortunately I don't use elevators which is good because they don't have one, so if you're old and out of shape request a bottom floor room. The place has a nice pool and patio dining area that is well staffed and usually has a harem of girls that will make your initial wick-dipping effortless.
At this point I was very tired and I hadn't released in a week so I was looking only for a quality BBBJ so I decided to hit La Passion. One of the other mongers at the hotel chided me a bit for this, which I respect on one level but each person and situation is different. He wants to be a player and enjoys the hunt. I wanted to be serviced without any hassle or drama.
So I walked down Pedro Clisante to La Passion. I stopped into the Claro station and picked up a cellphone for DR$500 which comes with a small amount of minutes. I don't plan on talking much so I didn't buy a card. Along the way I was propositioned by Haitian shoe shine boys, who were persistent despite the fact I was wearing sandals. There were also a few sharks along the way, particularly one on the right near one of the clubs (I forgot the name) who had a 'menu' with pictures of very hot chicas and spoke fluent English. For some reason this rang all sorts of alarms for me, especially when he tried to shepherd me into the club/hotel. Now this is in plain view on Clisante so I wasn't worried about being stabbed or robbed, but it very well could have been a costly hustle had I not excused myself. Maybe I'll give it a whirl later in the week to TOFTT and report back.
I made it to La Passion looking for Yari. I walked in and was amazed at the wall of smoking chicas behind the bar. I sat down and ordered water (as a severe problem drinker in the past I have completely given up alcohol these days), and Bella was there to just stare at me like I'm the Gringo Adonis. In fact it is a little unsettling at first because I was expecting I could sit down, preview the ladies, and have one sit down with me, but this place operates differently. Instead there are like twenty chicas in little, skimpy sailor suits behind the bar or walking on the bar and they all are in love with you. As Bella and a few passers-by stared at me I felt obligated to talk with them which threw me off, but frankly I think I was just being an AFC. Not only could I have just shut my mouth and enjoyed myself but I could have easily requested a different chica. But Bella is fucking hot so I just got lucky despite being an idiot.
So I asked for the menu, and only wanting BBBJ I went for the DR$1300 masaje. Went out back, gave myself a quick shower while she prepared the room, and then laid down for the massage prelude. She took off her top and showed off a nice tight little body and some spectacular tetas naturales and climbed aboard my back for the massage. She did an excellent job on my aching ankles and feet, then turned me over, tied up her hair in a cute white ribbon, poured some honey (miel) on my cock, and went to town and looked at me through the mirror. I take awhile to cum, and while she wasn't impatient she went to HJ mode a couple times expecting me to come, so I guess CIM was not gonna happen. Anyway I ended up cumming a load that I suspect may have triggered some local seismic activity, then I washed up and gave her DR$500 as a propina. In reality DR$200 would have been plenty but cumming clouds my judgment like a drug, and I was in the hopes that a repeat might lead to some CIM as her looks and overall personality are quite alluring. Looking back on it that was probably dumb but I'm also not here to quibble over $5.
By the way, La Passion is still under construction so no soapy massages. Also the girl (at least this time) doesn't shower you down and the water is cold. Not a big deal but these little things are what differentiate Bangkok's legendary massage service from what is otherwise an outstanding service at La Passion.
I walked up and down Clisante a couple times to get my bearings when a motocicleta dude approached me with some impeccable English. Now while he is indeed an angling shark my alarms did not go off with him and I knew this might be an opportunity to learn a bit about the area. So I jumped on his bike and he drove me around for an hour. Basically it was Man Tour Lite. I found Salon Figaro for future visitation, and we stopped and talked with chicas and I got a couple numbers. In fact I couldn't believe how easy it is to approach just about any chica. It is as if every chica knows that stepping out on Pedro Clisante is like putting up a sign and the goodnCatholic girls know to stay away. Every girl I made eye contact with gave me a wink or a smile and was easily approachable. I got a couple numbers on my cellphone.
When I got back to NG I talked with a couple tigresas. They wanted to double-team but I instead asked them to give me competitive sales pitch, and they turned on each other quite easily, LOL. I was very tired by this point and really needed to eat. So I ordered room service, took a shower, and ate. I then went downstairs for an espresso and ran into Marlin and Maria, whose fotos are in Gogo's thread. These two were a trip. Again, they were very easy going and did not trip my usual alarm bells despite being far from 'gazelles'. Marlin is a dark-skinned honey with a great sense of humor that is a just a little bit on the wild side. Out of the two she seems to have a genuine horny side that requires no coaxing to do anything. Marlin is also a cutie and seemed to be the leader of the two, but I was in love with Maria who has a certain Asian-Indian facial quality that I Just wanted to make my own. What I especially liked was that these girls seemed to be loyal to one another when I tried to play them against each other. Obviously I could have taken just either/or but I was kind of just going with the flow and decided to give them both an audition.
Anyway I negotiated ST from both of them for US$40 each (approx. DR$1400). While I did expressly clarify that I wanted deep BBBJ and not just the virginal schoolgirl kiss and peck I forgot to specify CIM. Guys, you have to make sure you get them to agree to whatever you want before the magic happens. I know, it detracts from the whole Romeo fantasy some of us like to have but you have to liken it to buying a car or house from a hot chick. Flirt all you want but you don't buy/accept the car until you specify/verify the options. With chicas in the DR you're in fact buying a service from these girls that has its own set of 'options'. Unless it is stipulated beforehand you seriously risk a "no paga, no placer' situation.
As we went up to my room I mentioned I had a 'juguete' (vibrating dildo) and they actualy got a bit excited. We got upstairs and the fun started. They seemed to understand I was interested in watching them perform on each other, and they managed to upsell me a bit ($10 more) and frankly I didn't give a shit by this point. So I sat on my chair and watched them use my vibrator on each other along with all the usual lesbian show. Eventually I managed to get in between the two of them, and you know how the rest goes. Afterwards we all cleaned up and joked in the shower and they were in no hurry to leave. No clock watching, no bullshit, just a nice combination of business and pleasure, I like it when the chicas actually manage to let loose and have a good time without being stoned, drunk, or destroying the hotel room. Eventually we traded numbers and they left holding hands, and I hit the jacuzzi to loosen up and then had an espresso before bed. I had to fend off more chicas at the bar by saying "Ya lo hago con tres chicas... NO PUEDO MAS!", LOL. I love this place already.
By the way, as far as Spanish goes, here is my take on the issue. Unlike MDE where Spanish is almost mandatory, you can monger here quite easily knowing little or no Spanish at all. The hotels are staffed by bilingual staff. They have American TV channels. The menus are in English, Spanish, German, and Italian. The German Claro store speaks fluent English. Many of the (more aggressive) street sharks speak near-fluent English. Most of the girls I met speak at least broken English which allows for some hilarious opportunities to practice pointy-talkie Spanglish. As for me I understood the girls almost 100% as they just knew to speak a little more slowly and simply like they would a grade-schooler.
Bottom line is Spanish will get you much farther if you wish to go outside the tourist areas or buy from the inside, local market and get the best deals and be treated like a player. But you can have a very good time here just being a gringo reading from a phrase book. If you do try and speak spanish, don't try and be fancy. Stick to the present tense because it is better to speak the right words incorrectly than to end up saying gibberish. I tried some fancy verb conjugation myself and got some hilarious "WTF?" looks.
BTW, one thing I was happy to see is how well our black brothers dominate here in DR. While I myself am whiter than snow and am certainly no race apologist I have seen firsthand some of the blatant racism that brothers get in South America and Asia where prices with the girls suddenly double or they completely refuse. Not so much here in the DR, and in fact I've already seen that the finest chicas on the arm of a brother. I hope I can pick up some game from you guys.
More to cum.
2J
Great report TooJaded, seem's like you already got game.
Wilfred and Omar aren't going to tell you this but if your on the fourth floor you have a secret. On both ends on the top are open party space's. You can party there and see the whole city and it's very private. Go to the top floor hang a left and go to the end and open that door and Sosua is there with a great view. There is a the same thing on the other end but you have to go through your balcony door.
Gave you a few tip's in my thread also. Can't wait for your next report.
[QUOTE=Too Jaded].....Bottom line is while I didn't all out fail or act like as asshole I paid a little bit too much and didn't get the most for my dollar; I will need to make some minor course corrections as I proceed through the week.....
More to cum.
2J[/QUOTE]
You will pay too much for something on your first trip, hundreth trip, and every trip in between. You have the right attitude, don't worry about it where it spoils your fun.
Looks like you are off to a good start. I always enjoy reading the reports from DR newbies as it brings back memories. Enjoy the rest of your trip and keep us posted.
Excellent day 1 report. Look forward to day 2.
I have not been to Sousa yet, and appreciated you taking me step by step through your first day there. That first day in a new location is always a little scary and tense, until you get comfortable with your new venues. On a short trip, this can take a major bite out of your time if you spin your wheels too long. I now feel more comfortable with the process of getting off the plane, and getting to the hotel to set up your base. The language barrier is always a concern to me. My Spanish is improving, which really seems to make things easier, and more enjoyable.
Keep the reports coming!
[QUOTE=Kaiju]Hey guys,
What are my options for traveling between Cabarete, Sosua and Puerto Plata? Taxi, Bus? Or is renting a car/Van better? Man, it's real work trying to find Ocean view Chica friendly hotels. At least it's hard for me. Anyone got any help on this? I'd appeciate it, believe me.
Kaiju[/QUOTE]
Rent a car at the airport. I always do. Why you ask?
I like to roam around with or without Chica on my side. I have approached many "normal" girls on the road and most hopped into my car. Nothing more romantic than taking your chica over the mountains to Santiago. Along the way there are many small rivers where you can go take a dip in cold mountain water. Nothing beats a BJ while driving. Or roaming your hand all over her body.
Meet girls on the road, take them to cabanas etc becomes easy. I also like to visit casinoes, disco places and local streets. Never been in trouble or accidents. In fact one time when I had a flat some local guys changed the tire and when I offered money would not take it. Many a time I have given rides to schoolboys and girls on the way to their school. Nobody complained saying I am a child molester. Many of these children walk a long way to school and appreciate the lift. You should hear them singing and enjoying the ride. If I had a girl with me they are happily grilling her about her relationship with me. Although I am not fluent in Spanish I can understand very well.
In fact I hardly walk. i go to the carwash or any place stop over for a drink and enjoy the scenery. I have gone to local gatherings and sit with them. On weekends they are out in some local bar or restaurent. Never felt threatened, even danced with few local girls who are with their family.
When you have a car you have the freedom to dine, drink, fuck wherever you choose even in the car.
Ok. enough rambling. How best to rent a car?
Do some research on the net and shop around all sites to find specials. It is cheaper by the week. I would rent a medium size car because there are potholes in many roads. Do not buy any insurance when you book the car. At the airport when you pick up the car they offer you bumper to bumper coverage with emergency service for about $20/day. American bought insurance coverage will be a problem because it takes time for them to verify and get approved etc in case you get into an accident.
So have fun with the freedom instead of sitting with the sweaty moto guy.
[quote=sammon]rent a car at the airport. i always do. why you ask?
i like to roam around with or without chica on my side. i have approached many "normal" girls on the road and most hopped into my car. nothing more romantic than taking your chica over the mountains to santiago. along the way there are many small rivers where you can go take a dip in cold mountain water. nothing beats a bj while driving. or roaming your hand all over her body.
meet girls on the road, take them to cabanas etc becomes easy. i also like to visit casinoes, disco places and local streets. never been in trouble or accidents. in fact one time when i had a flat some local guys changed the tire and when i offered money would not take it. many a time i have given rides to schoolboys and girls on the way to their school. nobody complained saying i am a child molester. many of these children walk a long way to school and appreciate the lift. you should hear them singing and enjoying the ride. if i had a girl with me they are happily grilling her about her relationship with me. although i am not fluent in spanish i can understand very well.
in fact i hardly walk. i go to the carwash or any place stop over for a drink and enjoy the scenery. i have gone to local gatherings and sit with them. on weekends they are out in some local bar or restaurent. never felt threatened, even danced with few local girls who are with their family.
when you have a car you have the freedom to dine, drink, fuck wherever you choose even in the car.
ok. enough rambling. how best to rent a car?
do some research on the net and shop around all sites to find specials. it is cheaper by the week. i would rent a medium size car because there are potholes in many roads. do not buy any insurance when you book the car. at the airport when you pick up the car they offer you bumper to bumper coverage with emergency service for about $20/day. american bought insurance coverage will be a problem because it takes time for them to verify and get approved etc in case you get into an accident.
so have fun with the freedom instead of sitting with the sweaty moto guy.[/quote]damn i hate being an asshole but it's called for here. that's the worst post ever. i don't think you should be recommending anyone pick up school children, even it's an innocent ride. you don't speak spanish and you have a school aged child in your car, how are you going to explain this to the police?
and just because you have a chica with you that could possibly verify your story, she will flip her story for whatever her dominican police friend say's. you my friend are setting yourself up. whats the point? you want to be percieved as a great guy? or is this your way of giving back?
go back a couple months ago someone wisely stated that insurance don't mean shit. when you get in an accident in the dr it's who you know and how many peso's you got that will determine the outcome.
on top of this you condone drinking and driving in the dr? let me get this straight. your pulled over for an accident after drinking, with an ****d child you don't know, with fucked up insurance, and you don't speak spanish. somehow i think you like putting yourself in bad situation's.
Too Jaded
Great post.. Believe me, you have not been overspending. I got the ATM receipts to prove it. Take a mental note of who is asking what prices. Your always going to pay more when your a horney bastard a wash in a sea of what you like. Once the thrill is gone then you will be able to operate. However, there will be a few that you will gladly beat the market for. Also, some of the quoted prices on here are outright lies by x-pats and are for Putas you would not dare touch..
Have fun & be safe.
[QUOTE=Kaiju]Hey guys,
What are my options for traveling between Cabarete, Sosua and Puerto Plata? Taxi, Bus? Or is renting a car/Van better? Man, it's real work trying to find Ocean view Chica friendly hotels. At least it's hard for me. Anyone got any help on this? I'd appeciate it, believe me.
Kaiju[/QUOTE]Hey now Sammon has posted ALL the positive so I'm going to discuss the negative. To be honest if this will be your first time in DR then highly recommend that you do not rent or drive a car at all.
It's the worst driving that I've ever seen. FUCK getting a blow job while driving. Put twohands on the steering wheel look both ways and behind you at all times and pray to the almighty that you make it to your destination safely. It's that bad down there.
Do a little research on this Sosua board. In this past year you'll find the forefathers discussing to drive or not to drive and the discussion wasnt pretty. One monger got scamed and went to Jail!*
IMHO find and talk to a cab driver get his number and have him pick you up and take you to where ever you want to go. So if he gets into an accident the liability is not on you.
[QUOTE=Sammon]Rent a car at the airport. I always do. Why you ask?
I like to roam around with or without Chica on my side. I have approached many "normal" girls on the road and most hopped into my car ... So have fun with the freedom instead of sitting with the sweaty moto guy.[/QUOTE]
Irresponsible post. This may be your fantasy, or if you are an experienced traveller and monger with a good grasp of Spanish every word could be true, but any newbie trying to imitate that behaviour would be sticking their head in a noose.
[QUOTE=Coolie High]Hey now Sammon has posted ALL the positive so I'm going to discuss the negative. To be honest if this will be your first time in DR then highly recommend that you do not rent or drive a car at all.
It's the worst driving that I've ever seen. FUCK getting a blow job while driving. Put twohands on the steering wheel look both ways and behind you at all times and pray to the almighty that you make it to your destination safely. It's that bad down there.
Do a little research on this Sosua board. In this past year you'll find the forefathers discussing to drive or not to drive and the discussion wasnt pretty. One monger got scamed and went to Jail!*
IMHO find and talk to a cab driver get his number and have him pick you up and take you to where ever you want to go. So if he gets into an accident the liability is not on you.[/QUOTE]
Great post Coolie............... I agree with you 100%
I agree guys. It's dangerous but rewarding. I've driven the vast majority of times that I been there. But I speak Spanish and I started out driving on the North Coast which is relatively easy. It really gets crazy when you head over to Santiago and Santo Domingo. Not for the faint of heart and the risks you take are dead serious with jail and money penalties especially for dribving while gringo.
That being said, the freedom a car gives you provides some great experiences, especially outside the cities. Picking up chicas along side the road is easy to do but few are ready to blow you as thanks for the ride. But it happens. More often, you end up with a kiss, a little carinosa and a phone no.)
You get to experience the people outside the cities where the pace is slow and they have time to talk and share. One time, two buddies and I drove from Sosua over to Gaspar Hernandez for the afternoon. Just cruised around town, talking to chicas, eating ice cream, hanging in the car wash behind the Shell. Other times, I've stopped in pueblitos for a bite or a drink and just shot the shit with people. Pretty chicas always seem to appear when there is a gringo around. Another fun thing to do is to cruise off the main highway up into the hills and see what you can see.
But as the more experienced mongers cautioned,you better speak Spanish and have a good head on your shoulders before taking the risk.
[QUOTE=Bq Ribs]Great post Coolie............... I agree with you 100%[/QUOTE]Me & my wingman drove down in La Romana. He drove & to fit in he drove like a nut. We hooked up with a waiter at casa de campo who took us to the local bars. We were like the side show at the circus. Our guide only was afforded cervases on us which was cool for us & him. He took us to places we would have never found. The second time we went to the local places we hooked up with the same two chicas. We didn't have a guide. My crazy wingman driving got nervous as the chicas were blowing us as we drove. I told him just to keep driving around in circles until the girls come up for air. On a side note are all Dominican chicas only interested in short term dinero. Pro or am Is there any hope that there is a beautifull, honest, faithfull Dominican chica.
The truth about renting, owning, driving around in the DR has been well documented.
Many have been caught up in scams. "The small town rental company rents there vehicle to you. A couple of days into the rental, your vehicle is stolen(by the rental company). And we all know where that story ends. "
You rent a vehicle. Have an accident. And if you live. You wish you hadn't.
You cruise around without a care in the world. And you have a great time. Without any problems at all.
All this being said.
I am a frequent traveler to the DR. I have access to my choice of vehicles and I keep a motorcycle at bay for my convenience trips (short trips and no rain). I use taxis without too much concern, motoconchos for the deliveries and publicos, buses for expanding my phone-list.
Life is a calculated risk and the rewards must be worth it in the end when you tally it all up.
[QUOTE=Koki9290]
You get to experience the people outside the cities where the pace is slow and they have time to talk and share. One time, two buddies and I drove from Sosua over to Gaspar Hernandez for the afternoon ...[/QUOTE]
Some of this stuff newbies can do by public transport extremely cheaply. Gaspar Hernandez, Rio San Juan, Sabaneta de Yasica, Imbert, Navarrete, etc are all towns which would cost less than $8 return to visit on the bus. And once in these towns, which are very small, you can walk everywhere.
It would take quite a few short holidays on the North Coast before a newbie runs out of places to visit by bus or carrito. After that it may be time to think about hiring a car.
From my discussions with other mongers and dominicans, that if you rent from the bigger companies and pay for the third party liability insurance, in the event of an accident, I have been informed there will be no jail time. If you rent from a smaller no name company, then that company may not have adequate insurance to keep you out of jail in the event of an accident.
I stopped one night at around 10pm for two well dressed chicas who were standing on the side of the road near the playa dorada complex in Puerto Plata, they were pleasant and if I wanted, I could have had sex with them, I would have had to pay something, but they were pleasant and were not hard core pros.
I have seen numerous chicas on the sides of roads waiting for gua guas, that motioned for me to stop and give them a ride.
Being in the Dom Rep without a car, I can't do it. The main highways are in good condition and oftentimes not a lot of traffic on the main highways (if you drive in the middle part of the day). On Friday evenings after 5pm, the highways from Santo Domingo going north (towards costanza, santiago etc) and east (towards juan dolio, la romana, bavaro etc) will have more traffic as people leave the city for the weekend.
If you drive slow, take your time, drive like a grandma going to church on Sunday, you should have no problems driving in Dom Rep. Driving at night and driving during heavy rains, not fun in Dom Rep.
[QUOTE=Koki9290]I agree guys. It's dangerous but rewarding. I've driven the vast majority of times that I been there. But I speak Spanish and I started out driving on the North Coast which is relatively easy. It really gets crazy when you head over to Santiago and Santo Domingo. Not for the faint of heart and the risks you take are dead serious with jail and money penalties especially for dribving while gringo.
That being said, the freedom a car gives you provides some great experiences, especially outside the cities. Picking up chicas along side the road is easy to do but few are ready to blow you as thanks for the ride. But it happens. More often, you end up with a kiss, a little carinosa and a phone no.)
You get to experience the people outside the cities where the pace is slow and they have time to talk and share. One time, two buddies and I drove from Sosua over to Gaspar Hernandez for the afternoon. Just cruised around town, talking to chicas, eating ice cream, hanging in the car wash behind the Shell. Other times, I've stopped in pueblitos for a bite or a drink and just shot the shit with people. Pretty chicas always seem to appear when there is a gringo around. Another fun thing to do is to cruise off the main highway up into the hills and see what you can see.
But as the more experienced mongers cautioned,you better speak Spanish and have a good head on your shoulders before taking the risk.[/QUOTE]
In defense of Sammon, I would be lying if I said that I hadn't done most of those things in the DR. Drinking and driving (when it was legal), blow-jobs in the car, and almost everything Sammon refers to, BUT driving kids home. These actions were reckless and stupid and I wouldn't recommend them to anyone.
Nevertheless, the car is "King" in Latin America, especially in The Dominican Republic and Cuba. Having a car in the DR, gives you greater freedom to get around and meet women. With greater freedom comes greater liability. If you visit the DR frequently and drive, it's not a matter of "if," but "when" you will have an accident. I have had (3) flat tires, hit a dog (bumper damage), have had (2) accidents with motoconcho drivers (one insignificant and one significant) and I count myself lucky.
For the first trip, there's little reason to be driving and very little need if one is staying on the North Coast. Just take the bus.
-Helpmann :)
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[QUOTE=Kaiju] Man, it's real work trying to find Ocean view Chica friendly hotels. At least it's hard for me. Anyone got any help on this? I'd appeciate it, believe me.
Kaiju[/QUOTE]As Chief Justice wrote Sosua Bay Hotel has ocean view rooms in a monger section of their hotel (I would never stay in Sosua Bay Hotel/Victorian House, I am 90% certain the Italian owner of Sosua Bay Hotel was involved with the murder of an American). Victorian House is not chica friendly.
Blue Bayou condo rental has ocean views. Some apartments in el neptuno have a partial ocean view. El Neptuno apartments are across the street from the Victorian House. I don't know if any rooms at hotel rancho have ocean views: [url]http://www.hotelelranchososua.com[/url]
Cabarete has numerous condo rentals with ocean views, do a search in google: Apartments Cabarete. [url]http://www.activecabarete.com/lodging/[/url]
There are a few villas for rent in Sosua that sit on the water.
On the mountain road between Montellano and Santiago, I saw school kids hitchhiking, they were young, wearing uniforms. No sidewalks on that road and no school buses. I did not stop. I can see how some kids want to get home quickly and not have to walk in the heat, up hills, on a road with no sidewalks and it is probably normal for them to hitch hike. If I was them I would probably be trying to hitch a ride too. Some school kids with money pay a motoconcho for the ride home. That mountain road is dangerous, it has many curves, no guardrails in some places and people walk on the narrow road, because there are no sidewalks.
[QUOTE=Helpmann]In defense of Sammon, I would be lying if I said that I hadn't done most of those things in the DR. Drinking and driving (when it was legal), blow-jobs in the car, and almost everything Sammon refers to, BUT driving kids home. These actions were reckless and stupid and I wouldn't recommend them to anyone.
Nevertheless, the car is "King" in Latin America, especially in The Dominican Republic and Cuba. Having a car in the DR, gives you greater freedom to get around and meet women. With greater freedom comes greater liability. If you visit the DR frequently and drive, it's not a matter of "if," but "when" you will have an accident. I have had (3) flat tires, hit a dog (bumper damage), have had (2) accidents with motoconcho drivers (one insignificant and one significant) and I count myself lucky.
For the first trip, there's little reason to be driving and very little need if one is staying on the North Coast. Just take the bus.
-Helpmann :)
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Chief Justice:
Sosua Bay Hotel is chica friendly? Thanks for that. I'll check that one out.
Mr. GoGo:
Nope, I've never been to the Dominican Republic before and the ocean view is for me. I kinda like listening to the waves while I get a blow job.
Too Jaded:
Thanks for your reporting. I like how you tell it my man.
Gentlemen:
Thanks for pointing out irresponsible posts.
Taxi/Cab drivers it will be then.
Kaiju
I live in the Washington-Baltimore area, in the suburbs, and that means I just about have to drive everywhere. It's fifty miles to the marina where I keep my sailboat; my one remaining close relative lives twenty-five miles away; before I retired, I commuted forty miles each way each day.
Do I really want to bring my auto-dependent lifestyle on vacation? Not really, if I don't need it. Nice to take a vacation from driving, too.
Part of the pleasure of my Blackbeard's vacation was that I [i]wasn't[/i] driving everywhere. The beach was a couple of minutes' walk; Jenny's was maybe ten minutes away. Food, beverages, conversation and poontang were right on the premises. Why would I need a car?
My next trip will be to Sosua, and I plan to go scuba-diving in the afternoons. Google Earth shows me that it's maybe a ten-minute walk from any of the Calle Dr. Rosen hotels to the end of the beach where Diwa Dominica's boat picked us up. Once again, I can do that without renting a car. Why add a rental car to [i]my[/i] trip, if "shank's mare" will take me where I have to go - or, if I'm going farther, I could get there by publico?
Of course, as always, Your Mileage May Vary....
[QUOTE=Coolie High] FUCK getting a blow job while driving.[/QUOTE]I get a little bashful when I am getting head in the car and a bus passes me on the highway and the passengers can look down into my car.
Thank God that I quit smoking, so next time in DR I will have a extra free hand to keep on the steering wheel. lol
i would recommend a first timer to drive in the dr if: you could communicate in spanish, has some driving experience outside of the us, and can spend a few days evaluating the scene before making that decision.
the reason you want to speak spanish is because you could get pulled over and need to understand what's going on. you might need to bullshit yourself away from an accident or scam. when i drove from sdq to sosua, i often took the mountain road northeast of santiago. many people flagged me for short rides. it was fun meeting local people from the country side, but i was aware of who i stopped for, which were mostly elders or women. some of the times in that route there was a police blockade with officers looking for weapons and drugs. they would ask to see my car rental papers and then let me go, never asked me for money or talked down to me. other times teenagers would stretch a rope across the road to force me to stop and ask for money. the first time i saw this i almost shit my pants, as i thought i was about to get robbed at gunpoint. then i found out the kids mostly have fun and are satisfied with a 5 or 10 peso coin.
driving in brazil and peru is hell compared to the dr, so to me the dr seemed quite enjoyable on the road. the main highways are in great condition and the rental cars are mostly automatic, which makes it a bit easier depending on what you drive back home. i did drink beers while driving, but i was driving around samana peninsula away from heavy traffic and populated towns. the few women that travelled by my side encouraged me to buy jumbo beers on the side of the road, apparently that is normal behavior in the dr. i never got a bj on the road and now i regret never asking for one.
be ready to accept that you will hit something and the outcome is dictated from how well you can drive in and out of those situations. in santo domingo it is normal and expected to bumper check publicos in rush hour, scrape the corners of your car while attempting to change lanes in heavy traffic, and hitting your mirror on other vehicles driving too close to you. in the north there are no big traffic jams, but you will see many motorcycles in puerto plata and be very aware of their presence. i had one minor accident in a total of nearly 30 days driving in my 2 previous trips. i hit the rear of a publico without brake lights and bent the corner of my front bumper. i took off quickly because i did not injure anyone plus i was nervous and did not want to play stupid and wait and see what could happen. i filled an accident report with casa del condutor and the rental company didn't charge me anything.
i think sammon was a bit misunderstood because he is giving advice to a first timer as if he was a dr regular, but in fact sammon sounds like a very experienced dr traveller with clear knowledge of what he does and its consequences. i will continue to drive in the dr because it is fun and the day they tell us foreigners can't do that anymore i will be very disappointed. on a side note, boricua online thinks i drive great in santo domingo because most likely i am a very louzy driver in the us. i think he is right.
[QUOTE=Helpmann][url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=338429&postcount=597]New Years in Boca (Great Day! a.k.a. the Gap-Toothed Girl)[/url][/b][/QUOTE]A friend of mine from the island of St Vincent always said to me chicas with a gap between their two front teeth are always good in bed. lol.
I find the chicas who have a little bit of the dracula type fang teeth, usually are freaks in bed.
Helpmann was having fun and posting in ISG about his adventures in Boca Chica in 2005.
Thanks for the posts. I haven't tried the handcuffs yet, lol.
Very good posts. Before my second trip I broke the "my 2 cents" rule and booked online thru Orbitz for a rental vehicle in Alamo. Bad mistake, not only did they not have the car I paid for, all they could give me was a manual gear auto. Eventually after some bitching they gave me a chevy aveo that was reserved for someone else arriving later that day, but had to pay a small price increase. Any plans to return to Cuba anytime soon?
[QUOTE=Panman]Very good posts. Before my second trip I broke the "my 2 cents" rule and booked online thru Orbitz for a rental vehicle in Alamo. Bad mistake, not only did they not have the car I paid for, all they could give me was a manual gear auto. Eventually after some bitching they gave me a chevy aveo that was reserved for someone else arriving later that day, but had to pay a small price increase. Any plans to return to Cuba anytime soon?[/QUOTE]I reserve online through the Alamo website. Problem with using Orbitz or other travel websites to book rental cars is that oftentimes the travel sites don't give you all the insurance options for the rental car.
At the Alamo website I reserve at least 24 hours in advance, decline the CDW/LDW insurance which can cost $20-$25 per day (my mastercard credit card provides that coverage). I choose the third party liability insurance for about $5 per day and tire/glass insurance for about $3 per day.
I haven't had a problem with Alamo when arriving at las americas airport in Santo Domingo, they have always had my reservation and a few times upgraded me for free. I use one of the coupon codes from this site and save about $50: [url]http://travel.bjs.com/promotion/bjs/carrental/default.asp#alamo[/url]
Nice sunny day, good music in the car, on the way to meet a cute chica, driving on a smooth highway without a lot of traffic, can be a pleasant experience in Dom Rep.
[QUOTE=Panman]...Any plans to return to Cuba anytime soon?[/QUOTE]Four or five years ago, I would have loved to have returned to Cuba. Now, I'll just wait until US travel restrictions are lifted.
-Helpmann :)
[QUOTE=Charles Pooter]Some of this stuff newbies can do by public transport extremely cheaply. Gaspar Hernandez, Rio San Juan, Sabaneta de Yasica, Imbert, Navarrete, etc are all towns which would cost less than $8 return to visit on the bus. And once in these towns, which are very small, you can walk everywhere.
It would take quite a few short holidays on the North Coast before a newbie runs out of places to visit by bus or carrito. After that it may be time to think about hiring a car.[/QUOTE]
Taking guaguas or publicos gets you embedded in the country too.
Hiring a car is just getting to know some taxi drivers and making a deal to pay a flat fee plus gas for the day. My experience is that it about as cheap or cheaper to get a car and driver as it is to rent a car. I paid 1000 pesos plus gas ($27) in sosua last year for an 8 hour day. A rental with insurance would have been more and I still would have had to pay for gas.
Once you have somebody you like you can get them by cell phone anytime.
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]Go back a couple months ago someone wisely stated that insurance don't mean shit. When you get in an accident in the DR it's who you know and how many peso's you got that will determine the outcome.[/QUOTE]You are spot on with this one. One example happened to me last month in another LA country. I was in Nicaragua at the beginning of last month. I called myself getting back with an ex girlfriend there. She decided to take me to a romantic spot called Masaya. On the way an 18 year old girl in a Nissan Truck with the chrome bumper bars hit us square in the back of my ex girl's little Kia. Her father and other family members were with her.
We were on a main two-way street blocking traffic about 5pm. It was taking the police a long time to come so we moved the cars off to the side. It took the police an hour and a half to arrive. The father kept trying to get out of it saying he would pay $20 for the damage. Surprisingly it wasn't damaged bad. The bumper just had a small crack in it. But it was definitely going to cost more than $20.
The police finally arrived. He wrote some things up then everyone had to follow him to the station. The girl admitted hitting us in the back. My ex girl was told to come to the station the following Tuesday to pick up the police report. Somehow when she got the report it said that it was inconclusive because the cars were moved so the policeman could not tell what happened.
It was suspected that the girl's father paid off the policeman. Then get this. She called me saying I had to give her $250 to get the car fixed. As it turns out the whole thing was MY fault. If I wouldn't have come to see her then she wouldn't have called off work and wouldn't have been trying to go to that place so the accident would never have happened to begin with. I told her that she would have to wait until the 15th of Neveruary because this month I had to send some money to Thailand to help a friend who has a sick buffalo.
[QUOTE=Jaosousa]A friend of mine from the island of St Vincent always said to me chicas with a gap between their two front teeth are always good in bed. lol.
I find the chicas who have a little bit of the dracula type fang teeth, usually are freaks in bed...[/QUOTE]I've heard that myth too. Gap-Toothed girl was no better or worse than most DR girls.
I've also explored other myths as well. Women who are fantastic dancers, pregnant, older, drunk, Haitian, submissive, Brazilian, and I haven't found any strong correlation between those traits and bedroom performance. Personally, very experienced eighteen year old girls who have been selling their pussy for the last three - five years and can easily take it in the ass are the best. These girls still want to have fun, still believe in love, and physically have the energy to perform.
-Helpmann :)
[b][url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=577334&postcount=903]Helpmann's Scale[/url][/b]
[QUOTE=Jaosousa]On the mountain road between Montellano and Santiago, I saw school kids hitchhiking, they were young, wearing uniforms. No sidewalks on that road and no school buses. I did not stop. I can see how some kids want to get home quickly and not have to walk in the heat, up hills, on a road with no sidewalks and it is probably normal for them to hitch hike. If I was them I would probably be trying to hitch a ride too. Some school kids with money pay a motoconcho for the ride home. That mountain road is dangerous, it has many curves, no guardrails in some places and people walk on the narrow road, because there are no sidewalks.[/QUOTE]
All things come with some risk. Accidents can happen anywhere anytime. I have lots of experiences driving in other countries so much so that I always rent a car. As I said this gives me the freedom to roam around with or without girls( Mostly with). In DR situation I am not into drinking all day or waiting till classico opens or not much of a beach person laying on the beach drinking. Rental cars come with unlimited mileage.
I disagree with other forum members saying newbies should not rent a car. How does the newbie gets the experience if he never tries? If he rents a car and uses extreme caution , next time he will be a pro.
Why many think people renting cars are doomed? We certainly are not interested in demolishion derby in DR.
As to the Bumper to Bumper insurance get it at the counter when you rent the car. As a added benefit credit card coverage is ok. Be aware that if you have an accident it takes a long time for the credit card company to approve the coverage and send money. They will not let you leave the country till the compensation is paid. This counter coverage is approved by the rental company whether it is Alamo, Avis or whatever. Yes it was $20/day last time. Many times it is more expensive than the rental. It is local coverage and if you get into a accident they will send somebody to take care of it and also help you with the police although I have not experienced because I never had a accident whenever I rented a car anywhere.
[QUOTE=Helpmann]I've heard that myth too. Gap-Toothed girl was no better or worse than most DR girls.
I've also explored other myths as well. Women who are fantastic dancers, pregnant, older, drunk, Haitian, submissive, Brazilian, and I haven't found any strong correlation between those traits and bedroom performance. Personally, very experienced eighteen year old girls who have been selling their pussy for the last three - five years and can easily take it in the ass are the best. These girls still want to have fun, still believe in love, and physically have the energy to perform.
-Helpmann :)
[b][url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=577334&postcount=903]Helpmann's Scale[/url][/b][/QUOTE]Nice photos.
Any photos of the chica with the different sized breasts?
[QUOTE=Sammon]All things come with some risk. Accidents can happen anywhere anytime. I have lots of experiences driving in other countries so much so that I always rent a car. As I said this gives me the freedom to roam around with or without girls( Mostly with). In DR situation I am not into drinking all day or waiting till classico opens or not much of a beach person laying on the beach drinking. Rental cars come with unlimited mileage.
I disagree with other forum members saying newbies should not rent a car. How does the newbie gets the experience if he never tries? If he rents a car and uses extreme caution , next time he will be a pro.
Why many think people renting cars are doomed? We certainly are not interested in demolishion derby in DR.
As to the Bumper to Bumper insurance get it at the counter when you rent the car. As a added benefit credit card coverage is ok. Be aware that if you have an accident it takes a long time for the credit card company to approve the coverage and send money. They will not let you leave the country till the compensation is paid. This counter coverage is approved by the rental company whether it is Alamo, Avis or whatever. Yes it was $20/day last time. Many times it is more expensive than the rental. It is local coverage and if you get into a accident they will send somebody to take care of it and also help you with the police although I have not experienced because I never had a accident whenever I rented a car anywhere.[/QUOTE] Europcar ''created'' several extra charges that I had to pay because Visa would only accept their word. I, a Visa customer was helpless! AVOID both!
Last flight into SDQ, I sat next to an Mexican guy married to a Dominicana. We were talking about how crazy the roads were here and he commented that the primary rule for driving in La Republica is if you have an accident, don't stop.
And I refuse to use Alamo because they failed to honor a reservation twice. once was x-mas time but the other was not a holiday. There mentality was not customer service oriented, to say the least. The owners of Alamo at SDQ also own another car rental agency there, Hertz? or Avis?, I think.
[QUOTE=Koki9290]Last flight into SDQ, I sat next to an Mexican guy married to a Dominicana. We were talking about how crazy the roads were here and he commented that the primary rule for driving in La Republica is if you have an accident, don't stop.
And I refuse to use Alamo because they failed to honor a reservation twice. once was x-mas time but the other was not a holiday. There mentality was not customer service oriented, to say the least. The owners of Alamo at SDQ also own another car rental agency there, Hertz? or Avis?, I think.[/QUOTE]From what I understand all the big named car rental businesses in Dom Rep are owned by Dominican companies (they have a license agreement with the big named companies). If you look at the credit card receipt you sign at the car rental counter, the name of the company on the receipt is not Alamo, it is some company with S.A. at the end of the name.
Throughout the years of renting cars in DR, I have gotten to know people at Alamo and I have given them tips and small gifts, they know me. Before every trip I have a Dominican friend call the guy I know at Alamo, to confirm that everything is in order with the rental car.
The guy I know at Alamo told me that the same group of people own Avis, Nelly, Budget and Hertz and maybe Europcar. I had a problem with an Avis van that I rented in Puerto Plata and a guy wearing a Budget shirt came to repair the vehicle.
Avis tried to overcharge me twice the first two times I rented cars in Dom Rep and for that I said Adios to Avis.
Alamo is not perfect, Alamo pissed me off my last trip, but overall I can't complain. I would probably stay away from the Chevrolet Aveo, when renting from Alamo.
I don't think the other rental companies offer glass/tire insurance.
Alamo and National are partners in Dom Rep.
[QUOTE=Alex Deuce]Also, some of the quoted prices on here are outright lies by x-pats and are for Putas you would not dare touch.[/QUOTE]
I don't know which ex-pats, and which prices, you are talking about so I cannot agree or disagree with you.
But ex-pats should, and normally do, pay considerably less than short-term visitors. For any one of four reasons:
1) The chicas may see them as repeat customers, or potential repeat customers, if they keep their prices realistic. With short-term visitors they just grab what they can whilst available.
2) The chicas know that ex-pats know what prices the chicas charge to locals (usually to Dominicans as few Haitians have any spare cash to spend on putas). So they feel they can get away with charging double to ex-pats but maybe not the three- or four-times as much they may charge short-term visitors. Typical prices might be for ST 500 to locals, 1000 to ex-pats, 1500 or 2000 to visitors. TLN 750 to locals, 1500 to ex-pats, 2500 or 3000 to visitors.
3) Once a chica has been with an ex-pat once and he has treated her decently she knows that she will be getting paid for undergoing, if not exactly an enjoyable experience, at least a comfortable and not unpleasant one, whereas with short-term visitors she is always taking a risk of being ill-treated.
4) If a chica sees a gringo living alone (like me) she sees him as a realistic target for marriage (or quasi-marriage). So they do more for less in the hope of furthering the connection. "More" might be in bed or around the house. I try to play fair and not lead them on dishonestly but it is hard to get the balance right.
As for chicas "no-one would want to touch", the ex-pat should be at an advantage as he has unlimited time to sort through who is available and is under no pressure to make a selection. There is many a chica on the Strip whom I initially found attractive but after repeating sightings over many months I am glad I invested my money elsewhere.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I took a newbie to Cristal last week and he was contemplating paying 1500 salida plus 3500 TLN for a chica I wouldn't have fucked had she paid me. We all have different tastes.
Another guy I recently took to my local puta bar for Dominicans felt so uncomfortable in that environment that he wouldn't even look at the chicas available. Granted, most of them were unappetising but from time to time I have found little diamonds there happy to stay the night for 1000 pesos and giving great service.
You have to look past the packaging whether it is Cristal or your local dive and that is easier for an ex-pat to do.
Of course there are some chicas no-one should touch, druggies or those who obviously have health problems. And their are lots of washed-up broken-ass ex-pats on the North Coast (usually drug addicts or alcoholics) who might resort to fucking anything, but those guys don't post on w h o r eboards.
That is the upside to being an ex-pat. There are also considerable downsides, mainly to do with security. The chicas and their possibly criminal friends know where you live and maybe what you have worth stealing. And if they set you up to scam you with false accusations you cannot dash to the nearest airport and exit the country. Not to mention the repeated demands for hand-outs. Just because I fucked a chica once before Noah's Flood doesn't mean I have to buy them a drink or a meal every time they see me on the Strip years later, but they all try it on.
[QUOTE=Hunts] Is there any hope that there is a beautifull, honest, faithfull Dominican chica.[/QUOTE]I would say yes. Problem for me is settling down with one chica. The chicas get tired of my disappearing act, when I go to be with other chicas, and the chicas give me the adios treatment afterwards.
This topic has been discussed on this board before. Some guys believe every Dominican chica is only after a guy's money (or a Visa to get off the island) and that no Dominican chica could fall in love with a foreigner. I believe you can find faithful beautiful chicas in Dom Rep, some guys may call me naive or stupid, no problem, but it is what I believe.
[QUOTE=Charles Pooter]I don't know which ex-pats, and which prices, you are talking about so I cannot agree or disagree with you.
But ex-pats should, and normally do, pay considerably less than short-term visitors. For any one of four reasons:
1) The chicas may see them as repeat customers, or potential repeat customers, if they keep their prices realistic. With short-term visitors they just grab what they can whilst available.
2) The chicas know that ex-pats know what prices the chicas charge to locals (usually to Dominicans as few Haitians have any spare cash to spend on putas). So they feel they can get away with charging double to ex-pats but maybe not the three- or four-times as much they may charge short-term visitors. Typical prices might be for ST 500 to locals, 1000 to ex-pats, 1500 or 2000 to visitors. TLN 750 to locals, 1500 to ex-pats, 2500 or 3000 to visitors.
3) Once a chica has been with an ex-pat once and he has treated her decently she knows that she will be getting paid for undergoing, if not exactly an enjoyable experience, at least a comfortable and not unpleasant one, whereas with short-term visitors she is always taking a risk of being ill-treated.
4) If a chica sees a gringo living alone (like me) she sees him as a realistic target for marriage (or quasi-marriage). So they do more for less in the hope of furthering the connection. "More" might be in bed or around the house. I try to play fair and not lead them on dishonestly but it is hard to get the balance right.
As for chicas "no-one would want to touch", the ex-pat should be at an advantage as he has unlimited time to sort through who is available and is under no pressure to make a selection. There is many a chica on the Strip whom I initially found attractive but after repeating sightings over many months I am glad I invested my money elsewhere.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I took a newbie to Cristal last week and he was contemplating paying 1500 salida plus 3500 TLN for a chica I wouldn't have fucked had she paid me. We all have different tastes.
Another guy I recently took to my local puta bar for Dominicans felt so uncomfortable in that environment that he wouldn't even look at the chicas available. Granted, most of them were unappetising but from time to time I have found little diamonds there happy to stay the night for 1000 pesos and giving great service.
You have to look past the packaging whether it is Cristal or your local dive and that is easier for an ex-pat to do.
Of course there are some chicas no-one should touch, druggies or those who obviously have health problems. And their are lots of washed-up broken-ass ex-pats on the North Coast (usually drug addicts or alcoholics) who might resort to fucking anything, but those guys don't post on w h o r eboards.
That is the upside to being an ex-pat. There are also considerable downsides, mainly to do with security. The chicas and their possibly criminal friends know where you live and maybe what you have worth stealing. And if they set you up to scam you with false accusations you cannot dash to the nearest airport and exit the country. Not to mention the repeated demands for hand-outs. Just because I fucked a chica once before Noah's Flood doesn't mean I have to buy them a drink or a meal every time they see me on the Strip years later, but they all try it on.[/QUOTE]Excellent post.
I had 3 accidents in the states within the span of 2 years (one my fault, and the other 2 someone elses.). I have been driving in the DR for 5 years or so now, and have been here many, many times during that period, and have never had an accident, major or minor. What I have learned during this time is that it's not so much how others drive, but how I drive. I drive as defensively here as I would anywhere else. Doesn't mean I haven't had close calls but, because I was cautious and alert. I was able to avoid disaster.
My attitude is that if you can drive anywhere, you can drive here, with just a bit more caution. I'm with the school of thought that you miss out on so much limiting yourself. And, besides, I have no desire to take public transportation and find myself crammed into a fu**ing guagua or taxi with no air-con and a bunch of sweaty people, myself included.
The benefits of driving here are great but, obviously, not for everybody.
When I rent a car in the Dominican Republic, I still have to keep my guard up. Even if the car rental agency has a good reputation (Thrifty and Alamo/National) it's still relative to the crooks (Hertz and Europcar).
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1. I make a reservation on the company website (I don't book on Orbitz or Expedia).
2. I use a credit card that has a low limit (less than $1,000). Enough to cover the deposit and one that can cover the insurance (AmEx is great!!)
3. I show-up on time and I bring print-outs of my reservation.
4. If available, I get insurance on the windshield and tires.
5. I get to know all of the employees well and by name to insure better service (they know me and my women ;)).
6. I do a thorough inspection of the car, before I sign-off on the vehicle.
7. I keep a photocopy of my International Driver's License and US driver's license in the glove compartment.
8. I keep the rental agency office number on my cellphone.
9. After I return the car, I make sure that the carbon copies are torn-up
10. Even after the trip, I keep an eye on the charges to my credit card.[/color]
I have never rented a vehicle in POP, 2x at STI, and 20+ at SDQ. At SDQ, I deal with the rental agency clerks in the external facility (near the rentals), NOT the ones in the airport. For the last three-years, I have rented through Thrifty. Prior to that I used Alamo/National. Generally, I pay less than $200/week (taxes included) for a 4-door compact car (Aveo or Sentra).
Driving in the Dominican Republic is no joke. Not only are the drivers aggressive, but the poor lighting, awful road conditions, quantity of motorcycles, broken traffic lights, tiguere cops, and POS vehicles that we have to share road with make the DR a very challenging driving environment.
-Helpmann :)
[b][url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=997517&postcount=4173] Do Not Use Hertz In The DR!![/url][/b]
[QUOTE=Koki9290]..........And I refuse to use Alamo because they failed to honor a reservation twice. once was x-mas time but the other was not a holiday. There mentality was not customer service oriented, to say the least. The owners of Alamo at SDQ also own another car rental agency there, Hertz? or Avis?, I think.[/QUOTE]
That is what happened to me last trip. I made a reservation online with Alamo.com. I arrived at the Maximo Gomez office and the tweety bird that works there told me no cars were available. This homo acted like it was no big deal and continued to talk to his buddy on the phone. He took my cell number and said he would call when a car was available, maybe some time later that day.
I never received a call and ended up renting from Eurocar the next day. When I returned home I wrote a complaint to the Alamo Headquarters knowing darn well they wouldn't help much as the Alamo offices are independently owned. Headquarters returned an email a few days later. All Alamo in the DR had to say was next time I make a reservation online to email them a copy of the reservation. I am like WTF.
I rented with Dollar this trip and the one thing I don't like is they have a Dollar Rent a Car bumper sticker plastered on the rear of the vehicle. To me this just says tourist, go rip him off.
Customer Service in the DR for the most part does not exist.
[QUOTE=Jaosousa]A friend of mine from the island of St Vincent always said to me chicas with a gap between their two front teeth are always good in bed. lol.
I find the chicas who have a little bit of the dracula type fang teeth, usually are freaks in bed. [/QUOTE]Now that I think about it you are absolutely right..from my experience. My Santiago gf has those dracula teeth and she is a stone cold freak. To add one more, if you want some really good pussy find a girl whose second toe is longer than her big toe.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Now that I think about it you are absolutely right..from my experience. My Santiago gf has those dracula teeth and she is a stone cold freak. To add one more, if you want some really good pussy find a girl whose second toe is longer than her big toe.[/QUOTE]That's where I draw a line. Crooked toes are a deal breaker for me. How can you date a chic when every toe points a different way?
Lmao.
Helpman
I would add in that if you get the car during the day, in addition to inspecting the car, I also take a bunch of pix from all angles and all parts to document the prior damage.
If I'm staying on SDQ for the most part, then I forego the tire and windscreen insurance but if I'm going to be on the road, it is a must.
[QUOTE=Bq Ribs]
Customer Service in the DR for the most part does not exist.[/QUOTE]I would have to say I had excellent customer support from Budget at POP. They were there to help with the police report after the accident and were timely getting reports to me via email so I had my insurance claim within a month. I used Barrons through Expedia so can not comment on the credit card insurance. I never did try to get my $220 back from Budget on the liability insurance but the guy who talked me on the phone while I was at the clinic was very helpful.
I have never driven in SD but found the North coast fairly easy to drive except for the motorcycles everywhere. I agree knowing a little Spanish will go a long way getting fuel and directions. I do not know much Spanish but learning more every day.
With the non existent Delta connection into POP it looks like I will need to fly into SDQ next trip and drive to Sosusa. Should be an interesting trip. If other members have any tips on driving from SD to Sosusa I would be interested in your input. I understand going through Nauga is the best route. Does anybody have any input on Budget at SDQ?
Thanks
Ok, I may have gone a little to hard and too fast in my first couple days because now I feel like the 'walking wounded'. But I'll continue where I left off.
I am not the most hardcore monger, and am enjoying the sun, the pool, and the escape from the daily grind as much, if not more, than the chicas. So anyway I was down at the pool on Sunday just relaxing with a book while sitting in the pool or the sunbeds. It was early and I was not looking for action but at some point struck up a conversation with a chick name Pela who told me she is a CMT and not a sex worker. Yeah, right. I noticed that she had a Betty Boop handbag which I know for a fact I read earlier was a gift from another one of you guys! So anyway I agreed to a DR$500 'clinical' massage, we went upstairs, and while she is a good masseuse it of course ended up turning into a DR$1000 ST. Nice face, a bit of a post-natal kangaroo pooch, and good BBBJ.
As you may remember I mentioned that I might TOFTT and check out that place over by Passion with the hustlers outside. My motoconcho errand guy Charli like everyone else of course is a paid hustler including this place. Knowing I could turn his loyalties in my favor I agreed to go with him for a Sunday 'pool party' and figured I would check out what the deal is. The place is called CMP (Caribbean Men's Paradise).
Sunday night was relatively hustle free (although the real sell would come later). When I got there there was a darker-skinned dominicana named Angel with huge tits I started chatting and lightly feeling up. Being the typical white guy she is a bit thick for my tastes but I ended up taking her for a test drive later in the evening. They wanted me to sign some kind of membership form but I refused, so Fernando (el jefe) told the receptionist girl (Tomarys) I was cool and to let me in. I went to the bar and had a couple drinks. I ended up letting my comedic side out and started telling the girls I was an American super-villain named "El Lechero Loco" along with some other tonteria. This amused the girls, and particularly Angel, to no end and is now my official name in this place.
Anyway, while Angel is not my type normally I got the impression that she would be excellent so I talked to Fernando about the Salida. I also used this opportunity to chat up the receptionist who is so damned cute and shy and even went so far as to describe the beautiful caramelo bebes we could make together and I swear she actually blushed a little.
Fernando came back and explained how things work (or how he wanted me to think they work) and basically they want to be the escort service that competes/complements with La Passion's massage house. DR$1000 salida to the house and DR$2500 for TLN with the chica (they said they don't offer ST as a rule but read further). They apparently feel that their chicas are hotter and quality controlled, STD-tested, et cetera to warrant the higher price. Frankly while it is expensive I am surprised they didn't try to open higher.
I wasn't interested in TLN, I just wanted to sample the service. I explained that to Fernando, and assured that him that while I wasn't a cheap charlie I wasn't interested in TLN and was simply checking the place out. I said I might be interested in ST. Eventualy I managed ST DR$1500 without clock watching + DR$1000 salida and use of one of their on-premises hotel rooms. These are hotel rooms which are not in service and frankly for good reason. Normally I wouldn't agree to such a steep price for ST but I knew there was a deeper angle to discover so I agreed. They even give you a receipt.
I went upstairs with Angel and before we even got started she was squeezing her huge melons and squirting me with milk. I was too stunned to be angry and then I just had to laugh because I figured it would make a great story. So if any of you guys like to suckle on huge milky boobs, Angel is your girl. The AC was broken so we just opened the doors and went at it. I have to give this girl an A+++ for effort as she seems to love nothing more than to suck cock and talk dirty. She is also is not grossly fat, but again I tend to go for flacitas. She sucked every last drop and swallowed my leche so much that I ended up having to take a day off on Monday to refill.
Meanwhile Charli my new errand boy was downstairs getting Tomarys' phone number under the nose of management for a more conventional form of date without the salida on her day off (i.e. go out during the day, have dinner, have GFE sex, but of course still give her something for tuition/rent/medicine). This kind of bummed me out actually because she looked so innocent and shy, but I got over it quickly and may call her.
I went downstairs and got some drinks comped by Fernando and left shortly thereafter. But Fernando asked me to meet him the following afternoon to discuss a new service he is offering, and this is what was trying to discover.
So the next day I went snorkeling in the morning and then went swimming in the pool. I met up with a couple mongers including the guy who runs The Teflon Monger blog which is worth reading. The guy is pretty cool, and is easily recognizable from the fotos on his blog. I recommend buying him a drink and learning from this guy as he is on Sosua trip number #11 in barely a year.
I ended up getting a major sunburn at the pool after my sunblock washed off. I mean mi cuerpo me duele MUCHO! And what is worse is all that snorkeling has my lower back muscles very sore because it was just me and Andy the swiss guide so we ended up free diving and swimming some extra distance, and I am apparently way out of fucking shape. So I got no pussy at all on Monday in order to recuperate.
I went back to CMP to get the hard sell and met up with Pierre, a canuck and fellow recovering booze-hound who has been in the DR for about 20 years. After setting the initial rapport they explained their setup, which is basically a prepaid membership which gives you access to a private resort, included car rental or chauffeured taxi, or network of hotels and selection from what I admit is a rather impressive catalog of chicas. Basically it is like a timeshare for pussy, and I also got the very distinct impression that this 'VIP' service might eliminate certain barriers (i.e. BBFS) for longer term engagements. I also managed to gather some outside info that Fernando is also a retired police officer of some rank.
Anyway, like most of you here I was like HELL NO and not interested. So while friendly and respectful it turned into a car sale tactic. They offered a couple lower tiers of membership but again this is not at all for me, and Fernando eventually realized he was wasting his time. If you are a rich business owner or lawyer or whatever who would otherwise go to Oxygen or Vikings and want to party like a rockstar with a harem of hot chicas that get tested twice a month that you might be able to get lesbian party or GFE BBFS service from and can afford to drop $$$$ at a time then maybe this is for you. Hell if if I was wealthy I would possibly consider it myself. But for the rest of us that earn an honest living and come here to stretch our dollar's value I recommend that you stay away.
So while it cost me a little extra out of pocket for the short-time loving hopefully I can at least say I've done my part to go out and report some fresh info to the board.
On the way home I ran into Maria, the Asian-Indian looking flacita who was dressed all up like a schoolgirl in tiny purple shorts and purple hi-top sneakers looking all kinds of illegally hot. She and I sat down at Flow for a drink and made tentative plans for TLN.
I ended up finishing the evening with a great meal at Scotch and Sirloin and woke up this morning howling from the sunburn and back ache. So I may use that as an excuse to go out to find a chica to rub some lotion on my back and then let me lay back, relax, and service me. Because in this way I have something in commmon with Mel Gibson: "I deserve to be BLOWN!".
You gotta sympathize with that crazy son of a b*tch.
P.S. I have to mention my motoconcho guy Charli. When I met him I knew he was a local hustler but I have turned his loyalty. It was as easy as letting him earn some money and being friendly but assertive with him and letting him know I am not a gullible chump (I also told him I would post his pic and name online is he cheats me). I've bought him a few drinks and walked/drove around bullshitting with him, and he is arranging my jeep safari for which he gets a commission. I also gave him DR$500 when he needed a 'loan' as an advance on some taxi services so now he drives me around and has his wife do my laundry, and I also have him doing some other errands I don't yet want to mention (nothing illegal) until the end of my trip. We get along well and while it is still business of course I now have a local 'source' of intel. On my next trip hopefully I won't need him. But in the end his services won't cost me more than DR$500 plus a few drinks (plus his commissions which I don't pay) and both of us are happy.
[QUOTE=Too Jaded] The place is called CMP (Caribbean Men's Paradise).[/QUOTE]
Great report TJ!
Where exactly is this clip joint located?
[quote]New Years in Boca (Great Day! A. K. A. The Gap-Toothed Girl)
. The party starts to wind down, so I take the girls home and head back to the hotel. I am tired and it's not even 7pm. At the hotel I transfer my photos to my laptop and rest a bit. Around 8pm I head to the "Perch. " I chat with Ex-Pat a bit, then Yennifer arrives. She's brought a friend.
This girl is smoking, cute face, and all the good things (and none of the bad) are sticking way the hell out. I forget about my 2 leches w/ Fuck Puppet and Yennifer, "Lopi", and I all walk off to my hotel. Once we arrive back at the hotel, all I know is that I am fucking this girl.
We have some drinks, I give Yennifer $RD100 for her find, thanks baby, I offer Lopi Road$600 for her services, she agrees, I see Yennifer off, and I start to get down to business. Lopi removes her top and I notice something.
One boob is bigger than the other. She has a "D" and a "C. " I guess that's better than a "B" and an "A, " but it is bit of a let down. Oh well, I am still going to bang Lopi, but perhaps, I need to take a better look at her ass. I get her on her stomach and start banging her from behind. I love the feel of her ass hitting my thighs and after 20-30 minutes of fucking and sucking I cum.
Life is good,
Helpmann[/quote]LMFAO, great post along with the photos.
Great report.
Keep them coming.
Mr. E,
What a classy way to present us your 1000th post on ISG.
Good post, good timing and congratulations, Mr. E. Thank you for your contribution to the board.
P
[QUOTE=Buscemi]Great report TJ!
Where exactly is this clip joint located?[/QUOTE]
It is in the former El Batey Restaurant/Campo Bar which is right before La Passion if you're heading east. It has a cabana look to it and a great big sign that says "Caribbean Men's Paradise" in front.
I spent a good part of the afternoon with The Teflon Monger this afternoon and mentioned the place to him and learned something interesting. He's pretty sure that it was operating until recently under a different name and that some guys he knows used the service and had some kind of crazy gonzo-style interlude with a group of girls from the service. TTM himself is into some more gonzo shit than I myself prefer (just Google him to find his site) so it must have been quite off the hook.
Anyway it still isn't a service I am interested in but you may get better mileage from the girls you find there albeit it at a premium.
So anyway, I made an arrangement for TLN with Maria, the Asian-Indian looking flacita I mentioned earlier. I called her at noon and told her I'd meet her at 6PM at NG, we'd go eat, and to bring some a swimsuit. I also offered to give her a very generous DR$2500 which she accepted.
Anyway, I get back to the hotel today around 4PM (two hours early) and guess who is already there sitting at the bar? You got it, it was Maria. I knew she wasn't there because she just couldn't wait to get on 2Js cock but I went and said hi and told her I had to go get a shave and that I would be back soon, and meanwhile told Rafael to give her a drink.
I got back at around 4:45PM and was unsure what to do. I didn't know if she was there trying to ST before our 'date'. While I have absolutely no illusions about these chicks I thought if she was it would be in incredibly bad taste to come to NG where I am actually staying to try and pick up a ST so close to our agreed upon time for TLN.
So anyway I went and very nicely asked her if she was hungry, and she said no. I asked her if she was ready to go with me, and she said no. I asked her what she wanted to do and she said something about waiting for her friend, but all in all it was kind of impatient and frankly a little bitchy.
So I said OK and walked away like a chump, thinking maybe I misunderstood some part of the dynamic. But only for a minute. Then I went back and told her very calmly that she need not worry, that I changed my mind, and that she was free for the entire evening to do whatever she wants. She started to act surprised but I nonchalantly walked away before she could try any bullshit. Her attitude just ruined it, which is too bad because my tongue in her pussy the previous night sure felt tight and she tastes dulce.
Worst is I had actually been looking forward to the evening and resisted the temptation to blow a load with another chica earlier because I wanted to make sure I had my full effect ready.
As much as I wanted to just let bygones be bygones I knew I couldn't let that shit go as it would have set the tone for the evening. If we ever do hook up it better be following a promise to make it up to me any way her little mouth can!
Edit: I just looked out my window and saw her walking back to Clisante all alone. So she didn't get the ST or TLN with Too Jaded. HA! I am sure she won't walk far before someone else scoops that shit up but it still made me feel good to see her walking away.
Gotta admit I was a little surprised to see Maria walking towards the N.G. as Perla and I were exiting this afternoon. And I don't think she was there two hours before the appointed time just because dominicanas like to be early.
Good move blowing her off bro - that chica to me projects major "my shit doesn't stink" attitude like few others around here.
GR; i.e. "The Teflon Monger"
[QUOTE=Too Jaded]So anyway I went and very nicely asked her if she was hungry, and she said no. I asked her if she was ready to go with me, and she said no. I asked her what she wanted to do and she said something about waiting for her friend, but all in all it was kind of impatient and frankly a little bitchy.
So I said OK and walked away like a chump, thinking maybe I misunderstood some part of the dynamic. But only for a minute. Then I went back and told her very calmly that she need not worry, that I changed my mind, and that she was free for the entire evening to do whatever she wants. She started to act surprised but I nonchalantly walked away before she could try any bullshit.[/QUOTE]Walked away like a chump? Sounds like you walked away like a champ. You said you were not a hardcore monger, but it sure looks like you are a real player. Right then and there when you told her she was free to go, dismissed, that her services were no longer needed; you let her know that she was not the only game in town and you were not going to be affected for one second by any bullshit. Thanks for not going up to her crying, begging, and kissing up like many other so-called mongers would have done.
Aha! The wily and diabolical "Lechero Loco" has met his match in the ripe and libidinous Angel! It's double trouble for him!
And here comes Captain Save-A-Ho to save the day! Swooping in on poor rejected little Maria, he doffs his super-hero hood, sweeps her off her feet, wraps her in his crusader's cape, and carries her off to his own secret hideaway for a rapturous and over-paid TLN session....
:D :D :D
ROFLMAO at your "Day 2-3" story. CMP sounds interesting - for some - but I'm not ready to buy a time-share either.
By the way, I'm with Mr. E - you may not describe yourself as a player, but your handling of Maria shows you've got more game than Parker Brothers. There are plenty of other fish in Sosua Bay. Well done!
[QUOTE=Too Jaded]So I said OK and walked away like a chump, thinking maybe I misunderstood some part of the dynamic. But only for a minute. Then I went back and told her very calmly that she need not worry, that I changed my mind, and that she was free for the entire evening to do whatever she wants. She started to act surprised but I nonchalantly walked away before she could try any bullshit. Her attitude just ruined it, which is too bad because my tongue in her pussy the previous night sure felt tight and she tastes dulce.[/QUOTE]Whooooa holdem up cowboy! Did you just say you were eating pussy like it's on the buffet menu? Your not going to start eating ass too are you LOL
Naw but I'm just fucking with u. I've gotten caught up in the moment a couple times and put my snorkels on and went deep sea diving in the pussy but PLEASE don't make it a habit. Only your main broad should you be going scuba diving on. To the rest fuck'them
BTW you were right about canceling the evenin plans with her. Always follow your instinct. Shit wasn't feeling right between yaw at that time so by all means tell her to get the fuck-on! Waaay too many honeys to put up with the slightest bullshit in DR.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Walked away like a chump? Sounds like you walked away like a champ. You said you were not a hardcore monger, but it sure looks like you are a real player. Right then and there when you told her she was free to go, dismissed, that her services were no longer needed[/QUOTE]Yo Mr. E reminds me of a famous quote by Oran "Juice" Jones
[quote]Cus you DISMISSED! That's right, Silly rabbit
TRICKS are made for kids don't you know that!
U without me is like cornflakes without the MILK!!
This is my WORLD your just a squirrel trying to get a NUT!
Now get on outta here......."[/quote]Words to live by lol!
I was in Sosua very recently and renewed my aquaintance with a cute little Haitian-Dominican chica called Julietta (D.O.B. 7/15/88). I believe she has one child, but you wouldn't know it. She is available in the daytime, but she also asked to to go and spend the night with her at her house in Montellano, which I declined. She is rather sweet and is looking for a boyfriend. I don't quite know what to make of her, since she has told me she loves me (yeah, right) based on a fairly brief acquaintance, but she did ask me to see if I could find a friend of mine for her, and one good turn deserves another.
You can find her hanging out at the massage parlor that is on your right as you walk towards Casa Marina, just before Casa Marina (about 30 meters) and next to an Internet Cafe. She gave me a very good pedicure too. If I was younger and single I might follow up on her, but I can't.
Check her out if interested. She is VERY cute. Speaks good Spanish and Creole, not sure about English. I don't think she goes out in the bars at night.
I went to Santo Domingo in June and now planing to go back in October, but I am wondering is grass that much greener in Sosua. I'm just trying to learn spanish and was fairly hard getting around bye my lonesome? Any opinions as to where I should go?
Travelling out of the country for the 3rd time thanks.
[QUOTE=Frannie]I was in Sosua very recently and renewed my aquaintance with a cute little Haitian-Dominican chica called Julietta (D.O.B. 7/15/88).[/QUOTE]
Sorry, would love to help out but she is over my age limit.
[QUOTE=Charles Pooter]Sorry, would love to help out but she is over my age limit.[/QUOTE]
I know, that's why she wants to hook up before middle age sets in with a vengeance.
Never really gave DR much of a thought until I started seeing a nice mulatta up in Canada, but during my winter vacation, I don't want to continue to freeze my butt off by driving up further north, so I started thinking where it is that I can find more exotic mix-raced girls and some decent weather during the winter. Then I find that DR is full of hot mulatta who kind of look black but also kind of don't. The girls I find totally attractive are the current crop of La Passion models. As soon as I find some time off, I'm so there.
[QUOTE=Jaosousa]I believe you can find faithful beautiful chicas in Dom Rep, some guys may call me naive or stupid, no problem, but it is what I believe.[/QUOTE]
It is true, they can be faithful and loving.... until the money runs out.
[QUOTE=Bobsthrobbinknob]It is true, they can be faithful and loving.... until the money runs out.[/QUOTE]True for just about every attractive woman on this planet. 99% of attractive women on this planet will not be with a penniless, homeless guy for a protracted period of time.
An average foreign guy, with an average job can find a beautiful Dominican woman who could be faithful.
You do not have to be a millionaire to have a beautiful woman on your arm in Dom Rep.
You will have to spend some money on the chica. Normal guys with normal girlfriends usually spend money on their girlfriends.
[QUOTE=Hunts] Is there any hope that there is a beautiful, honest, faithful Dominican chica.[/QUOTE]
My wife is beautiful and faithful, not so sure about the honest, though. Still you can't have everything.
She walks through customs coming into the US with two large suitcases packed with food from the DR.
Customs officer: "Do you have any food in those cases ma'am?"
Wife (big smile): "Food? Comida? Oh, no senor, seguro que no".
Customs officer (checking out her ass): "Follow the green dots."
[QUOTE=Frannie]I know, that's why she wants to hook up before middle age sets in with a vengeance.[/QUOTE]
I don't have a picture, but when I saw this photo on the Haiti forum I thought it was the same chica. Very similar appearance.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=138097[/url]
[QUOTE=Frannie]My wife is beautiful and faithful, not so sure about the honest, though. Still you can't have everything.
She walks through customs coming into the US with two large suitcases packed with food from the DR.
Customs officer: "Do you have any food in those cases ma'am?"
Wife (big smile): "Food? Comida? Oh, no senor, seguro que no".
Customs officer (checking out her ass): "Follow the green dots."[/QUOTE]
And who's that person who say's Hola Amor on your facebook wall? "Oh that's my cousin" lol
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Walked away like a chump? Sounds like you walked away like a champ. You said you were not a hardcore monger, but it sure looks like you are a real player. Right then and there when you told her she was free to go, dismissed, that her services were no longer needed; you let her know that she was not the only game in town and you were not going to be affected for one second by any bullshit. Thanks for not going up to her crying, begging, and kissing up like many other so-called mongers would have done.[/QUOTE]And she probably respected him more bc he didn't chump up to her. I noticed when I have to get hard on some of those chicas, the next time they see me they go out of their way to accommodate me. Rules in D. R
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Go hard or go home!
I already bought my ticket! I don't know what drove me to buy a ticket at the spur of the moment. OK, it was the La Passion models page and the fact that I haven't had a vacation since April, well, if you can call 4 days off plus a quick run up to Canada a vacation. In any case, if anybody from this report is going to be there, drop me a PM.
[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver]And who's that person who say's Hola Amor on your facebook wall? "Oh that's my cousin" lol[/QUOTE]Strange, but I posted 2 additions to this report already, but they have yet shown up at all. Waiting for moderation perhaps?
Thanks TJ, I only deal with freelance chicas in Sosua.
[QUOTE=Too Jaded]It is in the former El Batey Restaurant/Campo Bar which is right before La Passion if you're heading east. It has a cabana look to it and a great big sign that says "Caribbean Men's Paradise" in front.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Coolie High]Naw but I'm just fucking with u. I've gotten caught up in the moment a couple times and put my snorkels on and went deep sea diving in the pussy but PLEASE don't make it a habit. Only your main broad should you be going scuba diving on. To the rest fuck'them[/QUOTE]
Aww come on now Coolie. It's bad enough I didn't get into the Mile High Club, now you're talking trash on scuba diving like it was muff diving. :D
(Well there is the "Filthy Fathoms Club," devoted to people who get it on underwater. But I'm still disappointed that I didn't get a chance to "Fly United" with a spinner riding my joystick while we were flying in my Tri-Pacer.)
[QUOTE=Frannie]I don't have a picture, but when I saw this photo on the Haiti forum I thought it was the same chica. Very similar appearance.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=138097[/url][/QUOTE]
Nice indeed. I remember her. I was looking for a jewellry store which was closed at the time when I saw her. But I would prefer a dominicana from a nearby pharmacy :)
[QUOTE=Buscemi]Thanks TJ, I only deal with freelance chicas in Sosua.[/QUOTE]Especially at those rates.
You should be able to get TLN for those prices.
was out in Sosua last night and I could have sworn I was in Haiti.
[QUOTE=Buscemi]Thanks TJ, I only deal with freelance chicas in Sosua.[/QUOTE]
Same here. I hope it doesn't seem like I was trying to endorse them in any way; I just wanted everyone to know (and particularly the newbies like me) what the deal was if they just happen to walk into El Batey or get hassled by one of the street hustlers wearing a CMP shirt.
[QUOTE=Escort King]Especially at those rates.
You should be able to get TLN for those prices.[/QUOTE]
Understood, and I even said that upfront. And of course I got the usual reply from management about how their chicas are higher class, quality controlled, and guaranteed drug and disease free, and even said there was a money-back guarantee, blah blah. This isn't exactly a legally binding, notarized agreement so I took it all with a grain of salt.
In the end I only agreed to the ST in order to figure out the deeper mystery of this place's operation, and TLN was even more expensive (DR$1000 + DR$2500 + implied propina)!
[QUOTE=Too Jaded]Same here. I hope it doesn't seem like I was trying to endorse them in any way; I just wanted everyone to know (and particularly the newbies like me) what the deal was if they just happen to walk into El Batey or get hassled by one of the street hustlers wearing a CMP shirt.[/QUOTE]
Just keep posting your trip report mate, great read, no need to explain yourself, just hump and have safe fun!
[QUOTE=Too Jaded]Understood, and I even said that upfront. And of course I got the usual reply from management about how their chicas are higher class, quality controlled, and guaranteed drug and disease free, and even said there was a money-back guarantee, blah blah. This isn't exactly a legally binding, notarized agreement so I took it all with a grain of salt.
In the end I only agreed to the ST in order to figure out the deeper mystery of this place's operation, and TLN was even more expensive (DR$1000 + DR$2500 + implied propina)![/QUOTE]
It's all marketing, nothing more, but you can drive yourself crazy looking for the best deal in town. The most important thing is the chemistry between you and any individual chica, no matter what the circumstances of the commercial transaction. I think if you end the day feeling like you would like to get back with her again, then you have had your money's worth.
[QUOTE=Bobsthrobbinknob]It is true, they can be faithful and loving.... until the money runs out.[/QUOTE]
I'm sure the same would apply to my friends and relatives. Some of them might put up with me but that would strain any relationship.
[QUOTE=Negro562]was out in Sosua last night and I could have sworn I was in Haiti.[/QUOTE]
This is 100% correct and unfortunate if you no NOT like the Haitianas, I was just there and it seems like all the Dominicans are bitching about it but not doing shit about it. Huge huge influx since the earthquake.. It looks like now you have to live with it or just better not to go if its not your style.
How do you guys deal with chicas that come up to you completely unsolicited and refuse to go away?
As annoyed as I am with every motoconcho and cambio guy hounding me with every step, I can live with that. And I can stand the endless parade of unsolicited introductions from chicas every 30 secs when all I want is to sip my drink and survey the sea of chicas in front of me.
What I can't stand is the chica who won't fucking go away. I was sitting at the Merengue waiting for a friend when some chica comes and stares at me all serious and evil, no smile, no nothing but this weirdly intense asnd creepy look. I kindly told her no, but she just kept staring. After progressively terse attempts I finally started to get annoyed and told her to get the fuck away from me, at which point she made up some bullshit about how she was free to just stand there between me and the seat next to me (and stare at me like a crazy person). I mean really, has this approach ever worked?
I ended up paying my tab and leaving my drink unfinished. I think I might be finally getting a little tired of Sosua, and the Haitians in particular. I am going to get into trouble if I give in to my urge to start angrily telling them all to go fuck themselves.
2J
[QUOTE=Too Jaded]How do you guys deal with chicas that come up to you completely unsolicited and refuse to go away?
As annoyed as I am with every motoconcho and cambio guy hounding me with every step, I can live with that. And I can stand the endless parade of unsolicited introductions from chicas every 30 secs when all I want is to sip my drink and survey the sea of chicas in front of me.
What I can't stand is the chica who won't fucking go away. I was sitting at the Merengue waiting for a friend when some chica comes and stares at me all serious and evil, no smile, no nothing but this weirdly intense asnd creepy look. I kindly told her no, but she just kept staring. After progressively terse attempts I finally started to get annoyed and told her to get the fuck away from me, at which point she made up some bullshit about how she was free to just stand there between me and the seat next to me (and stare at me like a crazy person). I mean really, has this approach ever worked?
I ended up paying my tab and leaving my drink unfinished. I think I might be finally getting a little tired of Sosua, and the Haitians in particular. I am going to get into trouble if I give in to my urge to start angrily telling them all to go fuck themselves.
2J[/QUOTE]How about I'm in Latinos disco with my date and blow job Mary walks up rubbing her two finger's together. On top of that she's pregnant and I never banged her.
We'll she dropped to the floor yelling my name after I told her I was broke.
[QUOTE=Too Jaded]I ended up paying my tab and leaving my drink unfinished. I think I might be finally getting a little tired of Sosua, and the Haitians in particular. I am going to get into trouble if I give in to my urge to start angrily telling them all to go fuck themselves.[/QUOTE]
Another thing I noticed which bothered me alot was the amount of kids running around begging for money. There were times I was having a drink at some bar and as soon as I received my change for the bill I was getting tapped on my back by some kid begging. One day I let it get to me and told them rudely go away, gets old when it happens several times a day. The kids then started taunting and flipping me off, so I just had to go before one of them decided to take a step further and do something dumb. Let me not even get started on the haitian souvenir shops located on the way to the laundry lady, I just asked a NG girl I knew from my past trips to drop off and pick up my laundry for me.
The best way I was able to get rid of persistent women in Sosua was to persistently offer them 500 pesos for the deed, which seemed to turn them off quicker than throwing sand in their vagina.
[QUOTE=Too Jaded]How do you guys deal with chicas that come up to you completely unsolicited and refuse to go away...[/QUOTE]The only true "puta repellent" that I know of is another woman.
Nevertheless, if I'm by myself in Boca Chica or Sosua having a drink, and some biatch tries to move on me, I politely indicate with my head and/or hand that this ain't happening. If the biatch ignores my gestures and sits down anyway, I maintain my ground, politely ignore her, and get back to the business of chica hunting. It's her country, it's her town, and this is her business. She's just trying to make a living. If she has any sense, eventually, she will get up and look for a sucker somewhere else. I don't say a word to them (perhaps a polite chuckle), but I don't lose my cool.
Nevertheless, if the biatch put her hands on me, affectionately or otherwise, I have to believe that she either has no sense or thinks that I am weak or stupid. That's when my polite smirks and gestures become evil and ugly, like I could crack my Presidente bottle over their fucking head.
-Helpmann :)
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[QUOTE=Jamesbrown9]I went to Santo Domingo in June and now planing to go back in October, but I am wondering is grass that much greener in Sosua. I'm just trying to learn spanish and was fairly hard getting around bye my lonesome? Any opinions as to where I should go?
Travelling out of the country for the 3rd time thanks.[/QUOTE]
Without spanish Santo Domingo must be hard. I would recommend you try out Sosua for a few days. In Sosua you don't need any Spanish to get by, and everything you need is conveniently easy to find. I usually get tired of it after 3 days there because I tend to find more variety and beauty in the Capital. I will most likely be going back for a week in October as well, but I am not going to Sosua in this next trip.
The best turn off for women is to hear YOUR woman is coming shortly.
"Espero mi novia"
Waiting for my girlfriend; works almost all the time
U
[QUOTE=Too Jaded]How do you guys deal with chicas that come up to you completely unsolicited and refuse to go away?2J[/QUOTE]There's a lot to be said for basing yourself around one or two home bars. They get to know you and will look out for you.
At the two bars I frequent you will eventually see all available chicas in town anyway, so you don't miss a thing.
Tomas, the manager at the corner bar has it down to a fine art. He reads body language and if you don't look interested he tells 'em to move on, they're not buying drinks anyway.
Sometimes, he gets a little too zealous cause he knows I'm waiting for my chica, who he knows and likes even though she treats him like shit sometimes. A couple of fine young chicas will come up smiling, asking for cigarettes etc, and before I can fantasize about a threesome, he's there protecting me, and hustling them out.
Hey Tomas, it's ok, I'll buy 'em a drink, and hope my chica shows up late.
She arrives with mock outrage, and I tell her I thought they were her "cousins". We all laugh cause she know I won't game from our family bar. Why spoil a good thing?
Early on, if I knew my chica was going home to bambina, laundry etc, I used to make eye contact with a potential, on my way to el banios, and indicate she should hang around awhile. Thought I was being smart.
Don't know how, but everybody, including my chica, seemed to know what I was up to, and those knowing smiles from my chica and the barristas, kept me from wandering.
There's so many other opportunities in Sosua, so its never a problem.
[QUOTE=Frannie]It's all marketing, nothing more, but you can drive yourself crazy looking for the best deal in town. The most important thing is the chemistry between you and any individual chica, no matter what the circumstances of the commercial transaction. I think if you end the day feeling like you would like to get back with her again, then you have had your money's worth.[/QUOTE]
I agree with you 100%. I think most of us get lost in the thought of getting value and forget that the main thing is to find that girl who really turns you on after the deed is done. When you are planning to see her again you know you did well in your choice. The best ones are the ones who when you are home and you are making plans to return and you call her to see if she is still in the area.
There are some nutty chicas in Sosua.
I used to play the video game "Doom" and on the bottom part of the screen was the main character's face, the guy was always looking side to side (looking for some monster to pop out) raising his eyebrows with a mean face. Sometimes that is how I try to have my face in certain places in Dom Rep, sort of a mean face, even though I am laughing to myself inside. It's like poker, you can't give certain chicas even the slightest opening for them to think they can approach you.
Some of the chicas are crazy and it will not matter what you say. I have said in the past: "Esperando por mi novia, ella es en el baño" = I am waiting for my girlfriend, who is in the bathroom. My wingman is a little more rude, he says "Tu no eres mi tipo, adios" = You are not my type, goodbye.
[QUOTE=Too Jaded]How do you guys deal with chicas that come up to you completely unsolicited and refuse to go away?
As annoyed as I am with every motoconcho and cambio guy hounding me with every step, I can live with that. And I can stand the endless parade of unsolicited introductions from chicas every 30 secs when all I want is to sip my drink and survey the sea of chicas in front of me.
What I can't stand is the chica who won't fucking go away. I was sitting at the Merengue waiting for a friend when some chica comes and stares at me all serious and evil, no smile, no nothing but this weirdly intense asnd creepy look. I kindly told her no, but she just kept staring. After progressively terse attempts I finally started to get annoyed and told her to get the fuck away from me, at which point she made up some bullshit about how she was free to just stand there between me and the seat next to me (and stare at me like a crazy person). I mean really, has this approach ever worked?
I ended up paying my tab and leaving my drink unfinished. I think I might be finally getting a little tired of Sosua, and the Haitians in particular. I am going to get into trouble if I give in to my urge to start angrily telling them all to go fuck themselves.
2J[/QUOTE]
Ok guys, I will be leaving shortly and while I am preparing my final report I had an idea that might be fun.
I am going to leave the cellphone I bought with Wilfred (the manager at New Garden) with some credits and phone numbers of chicas I put on my A-list. Anyone who wants it just ask Wilfred. Use the phone, add your own chicas to it if you like, and then leave it with Wilfred when you leave for the next guy coming in.
We shall call it 'The Monger Phone' and pass it from one generation of newbies to the next in a self-sustaining cycle of renewal.
Now on the phone there are some good numbers (I go for the small flacitas, so YMMV):
- Paola hangs at the NG and has hands down the best personality. She gives a great massage and also good BBBJ. She runs around with a Betty Boop bag and while she is a vet she is fun to hang with and wants to please you.
- Claribel is my local Thandie Newton look alike and is analogous to a Thai Spinner. She is muy carinosa, hangs out at Merengue, and personally is my ATF.
- I reported on Marlin in my first report and is pretty kinky and very fun. She has no problem doing threesomes or even massaging your prostate if you're into ass play.
Take it and run, then pass the baton, my brothers.
[QUOTE=Too Jaded]Claribel is my local Thandie Newton look alike and is analogous to a Thai Spinner. She is muy carinosa, hangs out at Merengue, and personally is my ATF.-[/QUOTE]Wow Thandie Newton my all time favorite fantasy woman. Hope you guys don't wear her out before I get there in October.
Thanks for the posts TJ the monger phone sounds like a fun idea if the guys post a short description of the girls so you know who you are calling.
[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver]If you do NOT like the Haitianas ... better not to go if its not your style.[/QUOTE]
Excellent advice! Spend your holidays in Santiago, Santo Domingo, or maybe Colombia or elsewhere abroad and leave the haitianas in Sosúa to those of us who appreciate them.
Cheaper, better service, better educated on the average (many of them speak three languages just for starters), more appreciative, less demanding, and physically fitter. Looks are a matter of personal preference but I ain't complaining.
I look forward to Sosúa being 100% haitianas. The way things are going I may not have long to wait.
[QUOTE=Jaosousa]Some of the chicas are crazy and it will not matter what you say. I have said in the past: "Esperando por mi novia, ella es en el baño" = I am waiting for my girlfriend, who is in the bathroom. My wingman is a little more rude, he says "Tu no eres mi tipo, adios" = You are not my type, goodbye.[/QUOTE]
My favorite is: mi novia ven rapido, ella loca, animale, posible mirar tu conmigo y roto botella, rumpa su cabeza"
My girlfriend is coming soon and she's crazy, an animal, and if she sees you near me, she just might break a bottle over your head.
They can't run away fast enough.
[QUOTE=Charles Pooter]I look forward to Sosúa being 100% haitianas. The way things are going I may not have long to wait.[/QUOTE]
You do realize there there is an entire country full of Hatianas right next door?
Haitan women are very unique as someone stated. But don't forget that hidden cultural dynamic.
As a non Haitian, appeciate the good qualities because if you fuck them over it's hell to pay.
That hidden dynamic is the unknown. The super natural. The mystical knowledge.
It's there but it's not displayed outwardly.
An older Haitian lady told me"if you go in the water you're going to get wet"
I'm not trying to take up space here. But I will elaborate further in my forum next week.
Chickens feet to all.
[QUOTE=Too Jaded]Ok guys, I will be leaving shortly and while I am preparing my final report I had an idea that might be fun.
I am going to leave the cellphone I bought with Wilfred (the manager at New Garden) with some credits and phone numbers of chicas I put on my A-list. Anyone who wants it just ask Wilfred. Use the phone, add your own chicas to it if you like, and then leave it with Wilfred when you leave for the next guy coming in.
We shall call it 'The Monger Phone' and pass it from one generation of newbies to the next in a self-sustaining cycle of renewal.
Now on the phone there are some good numbers (I go for the small flacitas, so YMMV):
- Paola hangs at the NG and has hands down the best personality. She gives a great massage and also good BBBJ. She runs around with a Betty Boop bag and while she is a vet she is fun to hang with and wants to please you.
- Claribel is my local Thandie Newton look alike and is analogous to a Thai Spinner. She is muy carinosa, hangs out at Merengue, and personally is my ATF.
- I reported on Marlin in my first report and is pretty kinky and very fun. She has no problem doing threesomes or even massaging your prostate if you're into ass play.
Take it and run, then pass the baton, my brothers.[/QUOTE]TJ,
That is the most awesome idea I have heard of since reading these forums. I will be in POP next week and will try to get to Sosua at some point and grab that phone. I'll be sure to add a few numbers of my own on it.
[QUOTE=Too Jaded]You do realize there there is an entire country full of Hatianas right next door?[/QUOTE]
There is not, however, a country that has any sort of useful tourism infrastructure at present right next door. I will just add that during my visit to Sosua a couple of months after the earthquake, 3 of the 4 best chicas that I went with were Haitianas.
I always say thanks but I'm not interested, I have a novia. The next question is where is she? Waiting for me in my bed.
If you tell them you're waiting for her, the aggressive ones are gonna come back when they see you're still alone
[QUOTE=Bobsthrobbinknob]My favorite is: mi novia ven rapido, ella loca, animale, posible mirar tu conmigo y roto botella, rumpa su cabeza"[/QUOTE]"rompa tu cabeza" might be more correct. su cabeza might mean you are referring to the head of your girlfriend. I am no expert in Spanish, so any clarification would be appreciated.
Some of the Sosua chicas are crazy and won't go away no matter what a guy may say.
[QUOTE=Too Jaded]You do realize there there is an entire country full of Hatianas right next door?[/QUOTE]
I was recently in Haïti on non-mongering business. I was lucky to find a small hotel room at US$110 with no hot water and aircon that had only two settings - "off" or "tornado", and switching between them was accompanied by an impressive display of sparks and burning rubber. The breakfast menu was the previous night's spaghetti served cold.
So why should I want to go there again to monger* when, as members have just posted, there are more haitianas than I can handle just down the road in Sosúa, and as many as I can handle on my doorstep here in Puerto Plata?
Sitting at Dominican Billy's new cafe on the Malecon I have had four fresh haitianas straight out of Haïti fall into my lap in two days. Talk about shooting fish in a barrel! A pair of them had never even heard of Sosúa.
But two months after they find their way there they will have learned to lie, cheat and steal as competently as any dominicana, so you have to catch them while still fresh.
Instead of complaining about the new intake, members should be complaining about the dominicanized veterans.
*But I do intend to support BadBear's new venture as soon as my funds and schedule permit, not so much to gain a mongering advantage as for my more general cultural education.
[QUOTE=Jaosousa]There are some nutty chicas in Sosua.
I used to play the video game "Doom" and on the bottom part of the screen was the main character's face, the guy was always looking side to side (looking for some monster to pop out) raising his eyebrows with a mean face. Sometimes that is how I try to have my face in certain places in Dom Rep, sort of a mean face, even though I am laughing to myself inside. It's like poker, you can't give certain chicas even the slightest opening for them to think they can approach you.
Some of the chicas are crazy and it will not matter what you say. I have said in the past: "Esperando por mi novia, ella es en el baño" = I am waiting for my girlfriend, who is in the bathroom. My wingman is a little more rude, he says "Tu no eres mi tipo, adios" = You are not my type, goodbye.[/QUOTE]
I had exactly that experience at Merengue the couple of times I tried. I never even made it up to the disco. Sooner or later I will try it. You definitely have to learn to say no to buying drinks or even paying polite attention to chicas you are not interested in (which is most of them in Merengue). This place is a good illustration of Helpman's Tigres. Gazelles are very rare here. The last time I tried the intensity of the charges by the tigres was increasing and one was standing there arguing with me about why I didn't want her to sit with me. There was a haitiana spinner about 20 feet away sitting by herself quietly wearing what looked to me kind of like a kids formal dress with ruffles (she was 24). I hadn't even looked at her much but I was aware of her and thinking about going over there. She wouldn't even look me in the eye. As the Tigre got really irritating I answered her questions about why I didn't want her to sit with me by saying my novia is here. She said "What?". I said yeah, that's her right there, pointing to the haitiana who had a deer in the headlights look as I was pointing at her and gesturing for her to come over to me.
The closer she got the cuter she looked and the happier I was with the whole impulse. The tigre was insisting that that was not my novia. The haitiana gazelle was denying she was my novia and I was suddenly relaxed and enjoying the fact that I was acting as crazy as the tigre and I had her confused- and that put me back in control.
I found the haitiana cute and charming in her first responses. She got over her initial shock quickly. She turned out to be a novia GFE experience in fact and I was with her for two weeks. She was literally trying it for the first time and had only been there for twenty minutes or so when I called her over and insisted she was my novia. I ended up taking her home and treating and paying her very well. Days later she viewed it as a sort of mystical experience and me as supernaturally sent to her.
[QUOTE=Marc Anthony]Days later she viewed it as a sort of mystical experience and me as supernaturally sent to her.[/QUOTE]
LOL. Several haitianas have told me "God sent you to me", usually when I pay them or give them presents. It is such a strange thing to say, especially when I have just had my dick up their ass, that I think it must be some sort of traditional Haitian saying after making a new friend or completing a satisfactory deal with a stranger.
Dadycool, I see that you are from Montreal. LOL, and I thought I had found Mecca when I first stumbled on Montreal 5 years ago. You mean I can have a hot Quebec girl for $130 USD, and because there is no cloak and dagger hassle, it is as easy as calling up for food delivery? I couldn't believe it in contrast with the U.S. where I don't play due to frustration with the insanity.
Anyhow, it would appear that you had a great time down in Sosua. What are the pros and cons? I do know that in Montreal, the girls tend to stick around, so they want to have a good reputation, so if you just do a bit of digging, you'll know how the girl will look and perform before even meeting her. I don't suppose that is the case in Sosua with maybe the exception of the La Passion girls. Knowing the difference, would you go back again?
[QUOTE=Dadycool]I'm still in DR at the moment and I've just spent lots of time with the sweety I met on the first night. We spent the night chillin' by the pool with other friends, then went to the room and had a good night sleed just hugging and kissing (no banging!) cause I just wanted so much for now. Went down to the restaurant after a shower for breakfast, later she left to get her 2 year old kid that I wanted to see (beautiful boy with his mother's eyes). I give her 1000 pesos to teach me spanish and stay with me all day and night and add 500 if we get into FS. I'm really getting all the best that life can offer and I'm enjoying every damn minute of it GEEEEEEZZZZZ. This is way more than GFE that I experience in Montreal. I have to to say that I'm lucky enough to have met many good fellow mongers from other forums that I feel safe with. They are being very caring and we watch each others backs. Plenty of good people around in my hotel and other hotels close by. Big Mike21 got a few of out to Puerto Plata for a tour and we had a hell of a good time. Party last night in Classicos for Buck's birthday that I just saw pictures of! Looks like it was really something but I could'nt go cause I had only cheap stuff to wear (all of my stuff was at the cleaners and was'nt back yet) and it would of offended my chica to be seen at such a classy place with a poorly dressed gringo. I respect that and understand her. She told me that she did'nt want the other chicas to laugh at me!
I'm going to a pool party at the Seabreeze this afterrnoon and it will have a bikini contest, free booze and food. Hey! Another shitty day in heaven!
Talk to you later.
Dadycool[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Charles Pooter]LOL. Several haitianas have told me "God sent you to me", usually when I pay them or give them presents. It is such a strange thing to say, especially when I have just had my dick up their ass, that I think it must be some sort of traditional Haitian saying after making a new friend or completing a satisfactory deal with a stranger.[/QUOTE]They could mean as punishment.
[QUOTE=Too Jaded]Ok guys, I will be leaving shortly and while I am preparing my final report I had an idea that might be fun.
I am going to leave the cellphone I bought with Wilfred (the manager at New Garden) with some credits and phone numbers of chicas I put on my A-list. Anyone who wants it just ask Wilfred. Use the phone, add your own chicas to it if you like, and then leave it with Wilfred when you leave for the next guy coming in.
We shall call it 'The Monger Phone' and pass it from one generation of newbies to the next in a self-sustaining cycle of renewal.
Now on the phone there are some good numbers (I go for the small flacitas, so YMMV):
- Paola hangs at the NG and has hands down the best personality. She gives a great massage and also good BBBJ. She runs around with a Betty Boop bag and while she is a vet she is fun to hang with and wants to please you.
- Claribel is my local Thandie Newton look alike and is analogous to a Thai Spinner. She is muy carinosa, hangs out at Merengue, and personally is my ATF.
- I reported on Marlin in my first report and is pretty kinky and very fun. She has no problem doing threesomes or even massaging your prostate if you're into ass play.
Take it and run, then pass the baton, my brothers.[/QUOTE]A blast hanging with you over the past week bro. Hope your flight back wasn't too sad.
A couple of quick corrections on the chica names. Paola is actually "Perla" at the New Garden. Kind of a mother hen there with excellent pro massage skills. Lots of mileage at 31 with anything but a tight body, but very enthusiastic in the sack and willingly goes for her own pleasure. Both sessions with her have been very hot, at an average of 1200 pesos full service (though she didn't take a full pop en la boca as promised).
Claribel more frequently uses the name "Maria" when working, nice vet chica on the strip, usually out there trolling Latinos/Merengue by around 8pm, rarely goes upstairs to Classicos.
Marlin I think is actually spelled "Marlene". Slightly thick big booty chica with reddish/brown hair hanging around the New Garden presently. Fun, kinky and great personality.
I left the phone with Wilfred just before departing yesterday. For whoever picks it up: the voicemail code is 1234.
I couldn't have timed it any better. As I got to the airport my back went out on me and I barely managed to limp my way home... all that fucking finally caught up to me!
[QUOTE=Escort King]They could mean as punishment.[/QUOTE]
Perhaps not Bon Dieu, but a lesser god, who is less fussy about that as long as I took my time and used plenty of lubricant.
[QUOTE=Marc Anthony]There was a haitiana spinner about 20 feet away sitting by herself quietly wearing what looked to me kind of like a kids formal dress with ruffles (she was 24)... I said yeah, that's her right there, pointing to the haitiana who had a deer in the headlights look as I was pointing at her and gesturing for her to come over to me... I was suddenly relaxed and enjoying the fact that I was acting as crazy as the tigre and I had her confused- and that put me back in control.
I found the haitiana cute and charming in her first responses. She got over her initial shock quickly. She turned out to be a novia GFE experience in fact and I was with her for two weeks. She was literally trying it for the first time and had only been there for twenty minutes or so when I called her over and insisted she was my novia. I ended up taking her home and treating and paying her very well. Days later she viewed it as a sort of mystical experience and me as supernaturally sent to her.[/QUOTE]Good post, you found a Gem, nice.
I hope you guys are looking at my lastest post where the monger special prices are very affordable. If you guy a ticket from FLL on Spirit it is almost a weekend affordable trip. I have ventured into the DR many times in the last 30 years and believe me even the Dominicans were easier to deal with here in Haiti. That was until some butthole decided to turn the Dominican houses into DR style houses and started charging the ridiculous prices that only the UN, NGOs, and help groups can afford with our tax money and donations. Before, you could go to the houses in Carrefoure and pick up a Dominican girl that was model material, take her back to your pad, show her a little Spanish TV, show her the kitchen, and then lay back and get fed like a king and screwed half to death before you would take her back and get another. And it would cost you maybe $20 for an all nighter or $50 for an all weeker. The Haitian girls change when they go to the DR and you guys need to take advantage while I am not too busy. When I start building the Mansion by the Sea, I will not have time to troll with you as much. Come on down
BB2000
[QUOTE=Charles Pooter]I was recently in Haïti on non-mongering business. I was lucky to find a small hotel room at US$110 with no hot water and aircon that had only two settings - "off" or "tornado", and switching between them was accompanied by an impressive display of sparks and burning rubber. The breakfast menu was the previous night's spaghetti served cold.
So why should I want to go there again to monger* when, as members have just posted, there are more haitianas than I can handle just down the road in Sosúa, and as many as I can handle on my doorstep here in Puerto Plata?
Sitting at Dominican Billy's new cafe on the Malecon I have had four fresh haitianas straight out of Haïti fall into my lap in two days. Talk about shooting fish in a barrel! A pair of them had never even heard of Sosúa.
But two months after they find their way there they will have learned to lie, cheat and steal as competently as any dominicana, so you have to catch them while still fresh.
Instead of complaining about the new intake, members should be complaining about the dominicanized veterans.
*But I do intend to support BadBear's new venture as soon as my funds and schedule permit, not so much to gain a mongering advantage as for my more general cultural education.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Geeberish]Dadycool, I see that you are from Montreal. LOL, and I thought I had found Mecca when I first stumbled on Montreal 5 years ago. You mean I can have a hot Quebec girl for $130 USD, and because there is no cloak and dagger hassle, it is as easy as calling up for food delivery? I couldn't believe it in contrast with the U.S. where I don't play due to frustration with the insanity.....[/QUOTE]
I too stumbled onto the Canadian "escort" scene about that same time, spending a good amount of time in Niagara Falls and then Montreal. I had my first "sex tourist" experience when I was in Montreal for a week on business. Five girls in four nights and I thought I was living the high life. I spent a little more than $600 US with the exchange rate at the time. Now I look at how much farther that cash goes in the DR!
In the DR on that same amount of money I get AT LEAST 5 TLNs and 5 ST vs. 5 one hour stints in Montreal with the hope of "multiple shots on goal" if junior was up for it and the girl was agreeable. There is something to be said for the little French spinners I got in Montreal (I love spinners) but I can find spinners here in the DR and mix it up with different body types as well. If you like white meat, Canada is great, but I fell in love with the darker girls. I get off the same when I hear those little Frenchies talking French when I peg them as I do when I hear "AYE PAPPIE" from my little Spanish speaking Dominicans. And having the girls come to your door of the hotel on time like ordering delivered pizza is great, but the GFE in Canada is a far cry from the GFE I get here. The girls in Canada always have one eye on the cash and the other on the clock. Tick, tock,Tick, tock.
Now I save my money for a real sex holiday here in the DR.
[QUOTE=Getrhythm]Claribel more frequently uses the name "Maria" when working, nice vet chica on the strip, usually out there trolling Latinos/Merengue by around 8pm, rarely goes upstairs to Classicos.[/QUOTE]Is that the Maria in your Teflon Monger blog post from August 26? If so, very nice and great job with the blog, very entertaining, informative and some very decent lookers among your photos. Personally with my limited free time over the next year Medellin CO has to be my preferred destination until that gets old (if it ever does...)..but maybe 2012 I will finally do Sosua especially if I can work another sabbatical.
I hope you have successfully laid down the law with the Haitian "wife" since your last blog post...
Apologies if this has been discussed previously but...
Has Herman renovated Siempre Sol yet?
He told us it was being done in August.
[QUOTE=Oakie]Tomas, the manager at the corner bar has it down to a fine art. He reads body language and if you don't look interested he tells 'em to move on, they're not buying drinks anyway.[/QUOTE]Oakie,
Sounds like a great place to hang out. But there are bars on just about every corner. Do you recall the name of the bar(s)?
Ponderosa,
Thanks for the apples to apples comparison. I'm very glad to see that you are now having a better time in the DR. I did some quick mental calculations, and with a stay of one week, DR will work out to be a better vacation. In terms of total dollars spent, it will be about the same, but with the beach, the massage parlors, it will feel more like a vacation. The other thing with MTL is that since I have lived there, it no longer feels like a playground because I already know the city like the back of my hand and because at any moment, I could walk into someone I know. Then I'd have to explain why I'm there. Also, the winter is brutal. MTL will probably end up being a summer long weekend get away couple of times a year.
I don't have any particular allegiance to white girls. A hot girl is a hot girl. In fact, from some of the videos I have seen from La Passion girls, they are very attractive to me.
[QUOTE=Ponderosa]I too stumbled onto the Canadian "escort" scene about that same time, spending a good amount of time in Niagara Falls and then Montreal. I had my first "sex tourist" experience when I was in Montreal for a week on business. Five girls in four nights and I thought I was living the high life. I spent a little more than $600 US with the exchange rate at the time. Now I look at how much farther that cash goes in the DR!
In the DR on that same amount of money I get AT LEAST 5 TLNs and 5 ST vs. 5 one hour stints in Montreal with the hope of "multiple shots on goal" if junior was up for it and the girl was agreeable. There is something to be said for the little French spinners I got in Montreal (I love spinners) but I can find spinners here in the DR and mix it up with different body types as well. If you like white meat, Canada is great, but I fell in love with the darker girls. I get off the same when I hear those little Frenchies talking French when I peg them as I do when I hear "AYE PAPPIE" from my little Spanish speaking Dominicans. And having the girls come to your door of the hotel on time like ordering delivered pizza is great, but the GFE in Canada is a far cry from the GFE I get here. The girls in Canada always have one eye on the cash and the other on the clock. Tick, tock, Tick, tock.
Now I save my money for a real sex holiday here in the DR.[/QUOTE]
Thanks in advance!
[QUOTE=Wrongedswed]Great REPORT-THANKS. Everything I needed to know. This will be my second trip and I feel that I will have much more control!
Not clear on how much you paid for La Passion girls. Did you pay LP 2500 for take out and an additional 3000-4000 to the girl? Not sure how much to budget for each girl per nite. Can anyone clairfy?
Thanks![/QUOTE]You pay the fee to the bar manger. The amount is determined by when you take the lady out. 3500 for TLN after 9:30pm?? and 2500 TLN after midnight midweek. I enjoyed the company of my ladies so I brought them breakfast and gave them a 500 tip.
I had the best results with a ‘take it or leave it’ pricing strategy. If the chica refused my price no big deal there were plenty of others around. If she excepted I knew she was happy with the amount and would provide decent services. Negotiating with a chica especially when she was all over me usually resulted in over paying for poor service.
However I was reading the blog of a monger who had a unique strategy. His philosophy was instead of using a time oriented pricing system use a performance oriented pricing system. “You think you are that good? I’ll pay you based on how many times you can make me cum. 500 pesos per leche.”
I’m not sure the 500 pesos per leche concept would work for me but a time/performance pricing system might work. I would consider offering 1500 pesos for TLN (maybe 2000 to the right chica) with an additional 500 pesos for each leche beyond the first. What do you guys think? Would it get the chicas to work harder or would they think I’m just another crazy gringo?
[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver]Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]
You can buy a daily membership to Sosua Bay Club or D'Luis gym, both on Pedro Clisante at opposite extremes. There is an overpriced Gold's Gym about a 15 minute walk out of Sosua in Sosua Ocean Village.
[QUOTE=John from NJ]I had the best results with a ‘take it or leave it’ pricing strategy. If the chica refused my price no big deal there were plenty of others around. If she excepted I knew she was happy with the amount and would provide decent services. Negotiating with a chica especially when she was all over me usually resulted in over paying for poor service.
However I was reading the blog of a monger who had a unique strategy. His philosophy was instead of using a time oriented pricing system use a performance oriented pricing system. “You think you are that good? I’ll pay you based on how many times you can make me cum. 500 pesos per leche.”
I’m not sure the 500 pesos per leche concept would work for me but a time/performance pricing system might work. I would consider offering 1500 pesos for TLN (maybe 2000 to the right chica) with an additional 500 pesos for each leche beyond the first. What do you guys think? Would it get the chicas to work harder or would they think I’m just another crazy gringo?[/QUOTE]
Try it. My impression in general is that the more you treat it as a negotiated transaction the more it will feel like one. I try to soften that aspect with a new chica by saying that I'm sure she is worth more but I can't afford anymore than x. To me the best sex is when she is trying to "turn you out" as a novio. The fact that you agreed to payment is your security that you don't owe her anything more.
[QUOTE=John from NJ]Oakie,
Sounds like a great place to hang out. But there are bars on just about every corner. Do you recall the name of the bar(s)?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, its on the corner of Pedro Cliante and Dr. Rosen.
As for your "negotiation strategy" thing is, there's no "road map" to negotiating. Sure, you'll get some good advice from the guys here, but the game depends so much on the personality of the monger, the chica, the current financial situation of both, and that thing hanging between your legs. If it comes to life by just talking to her, you should be willing to pay a little more because you at least you know you are halfway there.
A steak costs costs more than a big mac, but its always your choice.
You might even decide to invest a little time in "training" one up a little for repeat performances.
What's fun in Sosua is you can spend a whole week like some hollywood producer and his casting couch.
Enjoy the game, and don't be put off by one unsatisfying experience. The next one might blow you away.
[QUOTE=John from NJ]I had the best results with a ‘take it or leave it’ pricing strategy. If the chica refused my price no big deal there were plenty of others around. If she excepted I knew she was happy with the amount and would provide decent services. Negotiating with a chica especially when she was all over me usually resulted in over paying for poor service...[/QUOTE]I don't of any real short-cuts to negotiations. You have to feel the woman out to get an idea of how much she will accept, without tipping your hand by asking her how much. In reference to service, avoid the tigueres.
-Helpmann :)
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[QUOTE=Marc Anthony]Try it. My impression in general is that the more you treat it as a negotiated transaction the more it will feel like one. I try to soften that aspect with a new chica by saying that I'm sure she is worth more but I can't afford anymore than x. To me the best sex is when she is trying to "turn you out" as a novio. The fact that you agreed to payment is your security that you don't owe her anything more.[/QUOTE]
Brief but wise. I want to meet this guy, Marc Anthony. He understand mongering because he understands people. And I think he (usually) likes them, too.
[quote=Wrongedswed]
Not clear on how much you paid for La Passion girls. Did you pay LP 2500 for take out and an additional 3000-4000 to the girl? Not sure how much to budget for each girl per nite. Can anyone clarify?[/quote]
They will give you a printed menu, just like a restaurant menu, listing the various services and prices for in-house and takeaway. The prices you pay to take out a chica depend on the time of day/night. If my memory is correct they start at around 5000 pesos if taken early in the day and drop to 2500 if taken at closing time. Guys who are clients of Passions may correct me on the actual prices, but you get the general idea.
The fee you pay in advance when you take the girl out includes her money and Passions' cut. There is no need to pay more but it is usual to give the girl her motoconcho fee home (or back to the bar) when she leaves. Many guys give a tip (say 500 pesos) if they are completely satisfied but it is not required or expected. Of course if the chica goes above and beyond the call of duty like complying with your unusual sexual practices (or cleaning your apartment and cooking you a nice dinner) then you should pay extra.
2500 + 4000 for the night? Gimme a break! It makes my eyes water to pay more than 1500 a night for any chica, which is why I don't patronise Passions, but they provide an excellent service for guys on short holidays with more money than time. Enjoy!
[QUOTE=Charles Pooter]They will give you a printed menu, just like a restaurant menu, listing the various services and prices for in-house and takeaway. ![/QUOTE]
The menu is on their website. [url]http://www.lapassion-sosua.com/menu.php?soundstatus=off[/url]
I personally liked La Passions and the menu makes things pretty clear cut except what you can get the chica to do for 2500 DOP . I liked the soapy massage over the other full service menu item.
[QUOTE=Bogiemaker]The menu is on their website. [url]http://www.lapassion-sosua.com/menu.php?soundstatus=off[/url]
I personally liked La Passions and the menu makes things pretty clear cut except what you can get the chica to do for 2500 DOP . I liked the soapy massage over the other full service menu item.[/QUOTE]
RD2500 is onsite one hour FS Soapy/FULL service in a plush orange and black jungle decor room with a private shower, or takeout FS after midnight Mon-Wed, TLN!
Pricey for an hour, but sometimes you gotta say WTF!
I had to have Sara one day onsite, and it was worth it, she rode me like a cowgirl in heat.
[QUOTE=Buscemi]RD2500 is onsite one hour FS Soapy/FULL service in a plush orange and black jungle decor room with a private shower, or takeout FS after midnight Mon-Wed, TLN!
Pricey for an hour, but sometimes you gotta say WTF!
I had to have Sara one day onsite, and it was worth it, she rode me like a cowgirl in heat.[/QUOTE]
I kinda like the Soapy myself and I must say they do have a lot of cute chicas there. Easy picken's for an afternoon relaxation.
Have you seen what Peter has done with the bar area? It is tons better than the old bar and it is nice to see Peter investing in his business. It is kinda funny having the girl hand you a menu on the services when you inquire. Sort of like looking for what kind of steak and trimmings you want when you go to Outback Steak House (LOL).
[QUOTE=Cuero99]Is that the Maria in your Teflon Monger blog post from August 26?[/QUOTE]
No, she is the one from his June "Who Made Salad" post. She is much hotter in person. But she won't do TLN as she has to be home by 3AM which was frustrating at times.
Ahhh, and all this talk about Passions has me reminiscing on Bella... that girl is numero uno all the way. I really kind of wish I had barfined her for my birthday. Have they finally completed construction on the soapy area? I was bummed that it wasn't available when I was there.
[QUOTE=Ponderosa]Have you seen what Peter has done with the bar area? It is tons better than the old bar and it is nice to see Peter investing in his business.[/QUOTE]
La Passion is too much like Mons Venus with full service now, not the little Blow Job shack in DR it used to be. Peter runs a tight ship and is probably dressing it up to sell one day.
I actually preferred the spot when it was a thatched roof and a Massage/BBBJ was RD900 with the Eye-Sore discount!
[QUOTE=Buscemi]La Passion is too much like Mons Venus with full service now, not the little Blow Job shack in DR it used to be. Peter runs a tight ship and is probably dressing it up to sell one day.
I actually preferred the spot when it was a thatched roof and a Massage/BBBJ was RD900 with the Eye-Sore discount![/QUOTE]With the small German Hamburger joint right next door. No outside walls, then there were two thatched covered bars. I could sit at the bar and look at the building across the street which seems like it has been for sale for a while.
[QUOTE=Bogiemaker]The menu is on their website. [url]http://www.lapassion-sosua.com/menu.php?soundstatus=off[/url]
I personally liked La Passions and the menu makes things pretty clear cut except what you can get the chica to do for 2500 DOP . I liked the soapy massage over the other full service menu item.[/QUOTE]
Gees! I went to the menu and saw a pic of Ninel Conde!
(Famous (in Mexico and among Latins) actress and singer).
Wow, I can have Ninel Conde for only 2500 DR pesos!
What a deal.
[QUOTE=Yanqui69]Gees! I went to the menu and saw a pic of Ninel Conde!
(Famous (in Mexico and among Latins) actress and singer).
Wow, I can have Ninel Conde for only 2500 DR pesos!
What a deal.[/QUOTE]
Good eye. If you Google image "ninel conde rose" it comes up in the first bunch. Actually as long as you catch her on duty you can get a massage and BJ from her for only 1300. If she takes the CIM be sure to give her a couple hundred peso tip.
If you fly into the DR what is the best city to fly into?
Also how much would a taxi cost to get from the airport to Sosua
[QUOTE=Jamesbrown9]If you fly into the DR what is the best city to fly into?
Also how much would a taxi cost to get from the airport to Sosua[/QUOTE]
Impossible to answer without knowing your ultimate destination and what you're going there for.
Puerto Plata and Sosua are on the north coast. Puerto Plata is the north coast airport.
Santo Domingo is on the south coast.
What are your plans?
[QUOTE=Jamesbrown9]If you fly into the DR what is the best city to fly into?
Also how much would a taxi cost to get from the airport to Sosua[/QUOTE]Thats a vague question Soul brother Brown. You have a few options when going to the Dr. You have Santiago, Santo Domingo and Puerto Plata. Santo doming is about 3.5 hour drive away from Sosua, Santiago is about an hour or so. If your main destination is Sosua, fly into Puerto Plata, but depending on your flight circumstances you could fly into Santiago and take the Bus or cab it to Sosua. The easiest option for you would be to fly into POP (Puerto Plata) and take a taxi to Sosua. I normally rent a car when I go But I can remember a guy taking me from Pop to Sosua for 500 pesos.
[QUOTE=Jamesbrown9]If you fly into the DR what is the best city to fly into?
Also how much would a taxi cost to get from the airport to Sosua[/QUOTE]
Since this is the Sosua thread and thats the city I assume you are talking about, Flying into Puerto Plata (pop) is the easiest way to get their by far, some of my Ft Lauderdale guys or NYC guys fly into Santiago and then pay $60-$80 for a Taxi.. from POP you pay $25 for a 4 mile ridiculously short ride from La Union, If I see a regular I can usually get away with $20, try to find some guys going to the same hotel and split a cab if applicable.
[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver]Since this is the Sosua thread and thats the city I assume you are talking about, Flying into Puerto Plata (pop) is the easiest way to get their by far, some of my Ft Lauderdale guys or NYC guys fly into Santiago and then pay $60-$80 for a Taxi.. from POP you pay $25 for a 4 mile ridiculously short ride from La Union, If I see a regular I can usually get away with $20, try to find some guys going to the same hotel and split a cab if applicable.[/QUOTE]I mean, the taxi thing from the airport to sosua, like, for example, I can take a taxi from Puerta Plata, with 5 or 6 other people, mostly chicas, for 40 pesos, less than $1.50 us. Yesterday I took a bus, for a nice ride from Samana to POP, for 300 pesos. Five hours, for a total of about $11 bucks. Make sure you ask a couple of drivers their price before getting in the taxi.
[QUOTE=Jaosousa]With the small German Hamburger joint right next door. No outside walls, then there were two thatched covered bars. I could sit at the bar and look at the building across the street which seems like it has been for sale for a while.[/QUOTE]
I used to like La Passion better a few years ago. I went there quite recently and couldn't stand the garish halloween colors decor and uniforms for the chicas and the loud pounding music. Difficult to talk to the girls with that going on.
Once it was charming, now it seems sleazy. I had one drink and left. I have had good times there in the past and they are probably still to be had if you get the right girl. I just don't care for the ambience now.
They are reporting that a crack-down on the hooker business began last Saturday!
Here's my take on trying to answer the question about how much you should pay for a chica. How about this? It came to me in a dream.
Think of it as getting something to eat. Its just like food, So:
How hungry are you?
When was the last time you ate?
What do you feel like eating?
Take out, take home, or eat in?
Are you on a diet?
Check the menu, the good stuff is pricier.
How much money do you have?
Do you want to be eating a little all day, or splurge at dinner time?
You bored with the usual, want something different?
Is the kitchen clean, or don't you care?
Do they wipe off the spilled ketchup, before you sit down?
Will you need Pepto Bismol?
All these considerations determine what you pay and what you get. Same for chicas.
[QUOTE=Jamesbrown9]If you fly into the DR what is the best city to fly into?
Also how much would a taxi cost to get from the airport to Sosua[/QUOTE]
From POP to Sosua is a standard of $$25 for the 15 min ride. They expect a tip but its not necessary.
If you go down often, your taxi amigo will charge $20.
If your chica meets you at the airport, give her the $25 to pay the taxi and she'll be smiling all the way to town. :)
[QUOTE=Sidney]They are reporting that a crack-down on the hooker business began last Saturday![/QUOTE]
What? can you elaborate?
[QUOTE=Kman1]What? can you elaborate?[/QUOTE]
This effort seems calclated, political, and economic. If they eliminate the undocumented Haitians, there will be more money for those from RD. More RD chicas will arrive to work. The wages may rise. More money will be retained in the RD. Much less money will be sent to Haiti. Probably, less crime and agression. And of course, more votes for the establishment.
[QUOTE=Sidney]This effort seems calclated, political, and economic. If they eliminate the undocumented Haitians, there will be more money for those from RD. More RD chicas will arrive to work. The wages may rise. More money will be retained in the RD. Much less money will be sent to Haiti. Probably, less crime and agression. And of course, more votes for the establishment.[/QUOTE]
I'm heading over next friday with the posse', ill give you the 411 but in the past sousua and the government have made these types of (threats) promises where the girls who worked in the bars had to walk around with name tag photo IDS when leaving work after hours and were scared to be on the streets after closing for fear of being picked up by the POLITUR. I have a feeling that this might be some sort of similar project all under the guise of rounding up the many illegal haitianas but who knows. The other side of me says that this might be all hyperbole and when I get there it will just be more of the same ole hyjinxs.. lol
[QUOTE=Sidney]This effort seems calclated, political, and economic. If they eliminate the undocumented Haitians, there will be more money for those from RD. More RD chicas will arrive to work. The wages may rise. More money will be retained in the RD. Much less money will be sent to Haiti. Probably, less crime and agression. And of course, more votes for the establishment.[/QUOTE]
I assume you are talking about deporting all undocumented Haitians (not just putas) since you say that "less money will be sent to Haïti" and the amount sent back by putas is a tiny percentage of all the remittances (less than 1%?).
That will not happen since it suits the rich and powerful to have a source of (almost) slave labor working hard for a pittance. As you yourself say "wages may rise". This is not what employers want.
And the DR government already has every legal right to deport undocumented and illegal immigrants (which they do from time to time anyway), so why would they need a new initiative to justify it?
And even if they did deport them, the border guards would soon let them back in. It is a profitable racket for them.
[QUOTE=Charles Pooter]I assume you are talking about deporting all undocumented Haitians (not just putas) since you say that "less money will be sent to Haïti" and the amount sent back by putas is a tiny percentage of all the remittances (less than 1%?).
That will not happen since it suits the rich and powerful to have a source of (almost) slave labor working hard for a pittance. As you yourself say "wages may rise". This is not what employers want.
And the DR government already has every legal right to deport undocumented and illegal immigrants (which they do from time to time anyway), so why would they need a new initiative to justify it?
And even if they did deport them, the border guards would soon let them back in. It is a profitable racket for them.[/QUOTE]Sir Charles good day to you.
If were talking about hard labor(construction), the Haitians are more efficient and the Dominicans' don't want to work at those wage's. Yes employer's in this sector benefit.
If were talking about "tricking in Sosua" the above paragraph does not apply. Haitiana's and Dominican'a can compete equally providing the same service at roughly the same price's. It only effect's the rich and powerful Dominican's when the Haitian's get superior number's and the Dominicana's can't compete. When this happen's there is less tourism dollar's going into the Dominican economy and more being sent to Haiti.
I don't know about a new Haitian initiative. But over the last few month's(since the earthquake) the Dominican govt has toned down it's contempt for Haiti as the world watches under the humanitarian cover.
Also sorry about the closing Of "The New Fod" i know you have a sense of humor?
[QUOTE=Sidney]They are reporting that a crack-down on the hooker business began last Saturday![/QUOTE]
I did not notice this during the past weekend. Met a Haitian, who provided outstanding service.
I would have to agree with the professor. I saw nothing of a crackdown and also enjoyed as much company with the chicas from Haiti as I wanted.
[QUOTE=Thomrn10]I would have to agree with the professor. I saw nothing of a crackdown and also enjoyed as much company with the chicas from Haiti as I wanted.[/QUOTE]
hahahaha, when i go to the DR, i bang anything and everything i need too!! jajajaja lol Guys Do the same, just DONT over pay!
[QUOTE=Thomrn10]I would have to agree with the professor. I saw nothing of a crackdown and also enjoyed as much company with the chicas from Haiti as I wanted.[/QUOTE]
It did indeed happen, but it was nothing more than the usual politur "money grab" - cash = release. If you think that any of these hookers is getting deported, you're kidding yourself...
Btw, where's the "Sousa expert" with the dedicated thread? Shouldn't he be covering this shit?
[QUOTE=Premier1].......Btw, where's the "Sousa expert" with the dedicated thread? Shouldn't he be covering this shit?[/QUOTE]
You talking about Ayyyypapi or Mr Gogo? Ayyyypapi seems to have vanished and Mr Gogo is off in Columbia chasing chicas.
[QUOTE=Premier1]It did indeed happen, but it was nothing more than the usual politur "money grab" - cash = release. If you think that any of these hookers is getting deported, you're kidding yourself...
Btw, where's the "Sousa expert" with the dedicated thread? Shouldn't he be covering this shit?[/QUOTE]If your talking about me, thank's for the compliment but I'm not an expert on anything. If you read my post's I do stupid shit like the next guy but my heart is good. I will be in Santo Domingo, Santiago, And Sosua next month, so I will reserve judgement about current event's until then.
My thread is basically for anything in the DR, it keeps the Sosua board on topic. Since you won't post on my "dedicated thread" let me ask here:
What do they do with the influx of new Haitian's?
What economic affect will this have on Dominican's?
Will Haitian's be deported?
Please redirect replies to the" Mr. Gogo thread" where everyone can discuss this while keeping the Sosua thread reserved for Sosua.
[QUOTE=Bq Ribs]You talking about Ayyyypapi or Mr Gogo? Ayyyypapi seems to have vanished and Mr Gogo is off in Columbia chasing chicas.[/QUOTE]
The former...
[QUOTE=Premier1]The former...[/QUOTE]
I always felt it was best not to temp fate. (LOL)
[QUOTE=Premier1]It did indeed happen, but it was nothing more than the usual politur "money grab" - cash = release. If you think that any of these hookers is getting deported, you're kidding yourself...
Btw, where's the "Sousa expert" with the dedicated thread? Shouldn't he be covering this shit?[/QUOTE]
I think it may be a bit more than a money grab. There's some politics involved with the new regime, and politics is ALWAYS about money. I have been informed that it was the National Police, so a bit more serious.
Bar Central was not allowing entry to Haitians (however they knew... profiling?) without proper ID and Visa.
I will have a LOT more info in a couple days, my regular girl is Haitiana, and last time I was there her visa had expired about 6 months prior. She hasn't been out a night since last Saturday, but said as long as she's with me it will be fine... (who knows?).
Part of the historical problem there is that when there are fewer and fewer gringos (and that's a sad sad fact), there are too many girls. The girls fight amongst themselves, and any of you that have seen, IMO the Haitianas are much more violent, especially with the broken bottle attacks.
Then, as evidenced 4 weeks ago, I saw very few of the Dominicanos (yes, the chulos) that hang out at Flow and such with nice haircuts, new shoes and clothes, etc. It was obvious when the money is slow to come in, the chicas bail on everyone but themselves and their kids. There have been a few serious violent events in Charamicos... more than normal recently.
In Cliff Notes: I think (IMO) this is a supply and demand issue that is being "corrected". It makes a hell of a lot more sense to "cleanse" the streets of undocumented working girls than ridding it of the Legal ones and ones that don't cause problems.
Take it for what it's worth, if history is any predictor, all the girls that BEHAVE properly will be allowed to stay. It might cost them pesos or a bit of pleasuring, but doubt THE GOOD ONES will be sent home.
[QUOTE=Bobsthrobbinknob]I think it may be a bit more than a money grab. There's some politics involved with the new regime, and politics is ALWAYS about money. I have been informed that it was the National Police, so a bit more serious.[/QUOTE]
You were misinformed. It was indeed the Politur - I saw it unfold from my chair at the Central bar. Same exercise took place last night.
Btw:
New regime/old regime - same bi*ch different skirt.
National Police/Politur - same bi*ch differerent skirt.
Hola guys,
What does this all mean for a first timer? Should I be worried about going down to Sosua and wait until next year? Will all the chica biz go to Puerto Plata from now on? I'm just thinking out loud here.
Kaiju
[QUOTE=Premier1]You were misinformed. It was indeed the Politur - I saw it unfold from my chair at the Central bar. Same exercise took place last night.
Btw:
New regime/old regime - same bi*ch different skirt.
National Police/Politur - same bi*ch differerent skirt.[/QUOTE]From my experience the National Police are more hard core than the Politur (tourist police).
When there is a serious crime the Politur, from what I have seen, pass the investigation over to the National Police.
I have not seen the Politur out very late at night, usually the very late at night patrols, are done by the National Police.
From what I saw, when I was detained in the small Sosua police station, next door to the Supermarket, many of the National Police guys were wearing civilian clothes.
[QUOTE=Jaosousa]From my experience the National Police are more hard core than the Politur (tourist police).
When there is a serious crime the Politur, from what I have seen, pass the investigation over to the National Police.
I have not seen the Politur out very late at night, usually the very late at night patrols, are done by the National Police.
From what I saw, when I was detained in the small Sosua police station, next door to the Supermarket, many of the National Police guys were wearing civilian clothes.[/QUOTE]
I was referring to corruption...
[QUOTE=Premier1]............It's a shame... going on six weeks in Sousa and my camera hasn't left the suitcase...[/QUOTE]The more time you spend in rep dom the fewer photos one seems to take. For a long time I would come home with hundreds of photos. Lately I have been taking fewer and fewer pics. Some of the chicas I was with last few trips didn't know I had a camera. LOL
[QUOTE=Bq Ribs]The more time you spend in rep dom the fewer photos one seems to take. For a long time I would come home with hundreds of photos. Lately I have been taking fewer and fewer pics. Some of the chicas I was with last few trips didn't know I had a camera. LOL[/QUOTE]
Pics lol? Pics will be more of a thing of the past.. Why you may ask imho?
#1 WAY WAY too many Captain Save a Ho's
#2 The girls are getting very astute to sites like this one and don't even like "candid" beach or street pics anymore, never mind the bedroom frolick.
#3 Gringos might be scared as well.. Wasn't there a story a year or 2 back where a gringo got held in jail and was extorted for $5k for making sex pics with a girl then uploading them to a site like this one. The chica then claimed and reported to the police that it was "defamation of character". The gringo was jailed until he came up with the $5k fine "bribe" to avoid a lengthy jail sentence. Apparently the puta and the police had a nice scam going. I'm sure she received a healthy kickback!
[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver]Pics lol? Pics will be more of a thing of the past.. Why you may ask imho?
#1 WAY WAY too many Captain Save a Ho's
#2 The girls are getting very astute to sites like this one and don't even like "candid" beach or street pics anymore, never mind the bedroom frolick.
#3 Gringos might be scared as well.. Wasn't there a story a year or 2 back where a gringo got held in jail and was extorted for $5k for making sex pics with a girl then uploading them to a site like this one. The chica then claimed and reported to the police that it was "defamation of character". The gringo was jailed until he came up with the $5k fine "bribe" to avoid a lengthy jail sentence. Apparently the puta and the police had a nice scam going. I'm sure she received a healthy kickback![/QUOTE]Great points not to mention that when a pic is posted it gets 2000 views and one person says thankyou. You get person info requests from guys that have never posted a pic in their ISG life. I have friends from ISG that I exchange personal pics with other ways privately. I'm an amateur photographer but this is not the place for that anymore.
[QUOTE=Premier1]I was referring to corruption...[/QUOTE]Corruption, the National Police are the Pros and the Politur are the rookies. The head of the National Police for the Dominican Republic used to golf with an older Spanish guy who got caught trying to ship 1200 kilos of cocaine from Santo Domingo to Spain.
Looks like the murder of the rich American lawyer in Sosua will never be solved.
It means nothing, just go and have a good time. No one will bother you in any of these areas. Have a great trip.
[QUOTE=Kaiju]Hola guys,
What does this all mean for a first timer? Should I be worried about going down to Sosua and wait until next year? Will all the chica biz go to Puerto Plata from now on? I'm just thinking out loud here.
Kaiju[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Kaiju]Hola guys,
What does this all mean for a first timer? Should I be worried about going down to Sosua and wait until next year? Will all the chica biz go to Puerto Plata from now on? I'm just thinking out loud here.
Kaiju[/QUOTE]
I was there over Labor Day, and you should be fine.
ummmmmmm, who was that and where was it? i didn't hear a peep about that.
[quote=puerto la cruz]ummmmmmm, who was that and where was it? i didn't hear a peep about that.[/quote]from oregonlive: "art tarlow, a well-known portland business and construction trial lawyer, was found dead friday, fatally shot at his winter home in the dominican republic. he was 68... he was drawn to the caribbean country's northern coast, one of the less developed stretches of the island, where he could spend more time getting to know the locals and their culture. he bought a million-dollar oceanfront home in sosúa in 2002 and soon, began telecommuting part time to his busy portland law firm tarlow naito & summers llp."
[url]http://topics.oregonlive.com/tag/art%20tarlow/index.html[/url]
Hello to all. I just walked in the door after a great week in Sosua! I read a couple of posts about the police crackdown and thought I would comment. Yes there is a crackdown going on. It's not an all out "raid", but it is evident. That being said, there was no problem finding talent. The police are out at night, but are pretty much stationary. Any girl walking the strip alone at night is a target. I spent most of the week with my Haitian "girlfriend", and she told me the deal. If a girl walks alone past the police she could be picked up. They are taken to the station and have to pay a 600 peso fine. After the fine they are free to go. Doesn't matter if they have a passport and visa or not. If the girl is walking with male company she is left alone. Period. The police don't enter the bars at all. MANY times I was walking with my girl, and another girl asked if she could walk with us. Sometimes it was one girl, other times three or four. We walked past the police and they didn't even give us a glance! Once inside a bar, the girl is free to work her trade. The motoconcho's are being pulled over left and right. The helmet law is being enforced. There was plenty of talent, and if I wasn't told what was going on, I wouldn't have even noticed. Most nights were actually very busy,and the police didn't detract from my week at all. I also have to give high marks to The Hotel Terra Linda. That is where I stayed, and it was fabulous. If you stay for 6 days or more, the rate is $60 per night. $69 for less than 6 days. Breakfast was included, and it was a very good breakfast at that! The pool was maintained very well, and the place was spotless! No problem bringing girls back. They have a rule about one girl per guy, but that is negotiable, like everything else down in the D.R. Slip the night guard a $200 peso "propina", and your good to go. The girl just has to be out by 6 a.m. Every time I saw him, he smiled, and asked if I was going to have extra company that night! He really seems to enjoy the rule, and the tip that it brings him each night! hahaha! Everyone who worked there was fabulous. The bartender by the pool in the afternoon was really great, and worked his ass of to please me. The drinks were VERY reasonable, and STRONG!! A couple of girls were let in in the afternoon, and they were more than happy to jump in the pool, and have a little "fun". I was also told that if you stop by, and buy a couple of beers, you can use the pool for free! The pool is very big, clean, and new. Stop by and check it out, you won't be disappointed!
Also just got back from a week in Sosua. The Politur grabbed girls almost every night and not just Haitanas. Dominicanas without cedulas also went to jail and had to pay the 600P fine. As with any action like this, there was some harassment or so the chicas reported. One of my regulars from POP had me meet her at the Parada and walk her to NG. There were two Politur who came by the NG just before the bar closed at 11 pm on the 2-3 nights when I was hanging there. Had a few slow nights in the discos and lots of new faces. Many of the regulars were missing. Not near the talent that I saw on my last visit over Memorial Day.
[QUOTE=Koki9290]Also just got back from a week in Sosua. The Politur grabbed girls almost every night and not just Haitanas. Dominicanas without cedulas also went to jail and had to pay the 600P fine. As with any action like this, there was some harassment or so the chicas reported. One of my regulars from POP had me meet her at the Parada and walk her to NG. There were two Politur who came by the NG just before the bar closed at 11 pm on the 2-3 nights when I was hanging there. Had a few slow nights in the discos and lots of new faces. Many of the regulars were missing. Not near the talent that I saw on my last visit over Memorial Day.[/QUOTE]So you could go window shopping at the police station with pesos in hand?
[QUOTE=Escort King]So you could go window shopping at the police station with pesos in hand?[/QUOTE]
I remember a few years back when they were having shake downs in Boca Chica a guy posted doing just that. He said when the girls got arrested he would go to the jail and search out a chica he liked. He would pay her bail and in return he ended up with a TLN for the price of bail money. It's a Win-Win...........
Going for a week on friday, Ill give you the 411 to the best of my knowledge, I know a couple of cops and politur there. See what they have to say..
[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver]Going for a week on friday, Ill give you the 411 to the best of my knowledge, I know a couple of cops and politur there. See what they have to say..[/QUOTE]I was there last night, on Pedro Clisante, and without any exaggeration, at 11pm, there about 4 to 1 ratio of chicas to guys. It is a buyers market.
[QUOTE=Bq Ribs]I remember a few years back when they were having shake downs in Boca Chica a guy posted doing just that. He said when the girls got arrested he would go to the jail and search out a chica he liked. He would pay her bail and in return he ended up with a TLN for the price of bail money. It's a Win-Win...........[/QUOTE]
I remember an old post by Dominican Billy with pictures of doing just this at the jail in puerto plata years ago. I don't find it in a cursory search. He liberated a bunch of chicas at once.
[QUOTE=Marc Anthony]I remember an old post by Dominican Billy with pictures of doing just this at the jail in puerto plata years ago. I don't find it in a cursory search. He liberated a bunch of chicas at once.[/QUOTE]The Sosua police station is a small concrete block building, no glass in the window openings, one old desk near the entrance with an old cabinet where they store the belts and other items of the people they detained. No computer, I don't recall seeing a typewriter, I don't recall seeing any supplies (no pens or paper).
The holding cells were upstairs, up a set of stairs that have no guardrails. The morning I was there, they released the people who were detained the night before, around 8am. No paperwork, personal property was thrown on the one desk and the people who were getting released just grabbed their stuff.
I've been to Sosua/POP 4 or 5 times and I'm coming back for a week next Thursday. I plan to rent a car and was thinking about driving East from Sosua past Cabarate and exploring out towards Samana. Has anyone ever made this road trip and explored towns like Rio San Juan, Abreu, Cabrera, Las Terranas or Samana. I've read a lot of the Forum but haven't read much about these locations.
[QUOTE=Kyle Fox]I've been to Sosua/POP 4 or 5 times and I'm coming back for a week next Thursday. I plan to rent a car and was thinking about driving East from Sosua past Cabarate and exploring out towards Samana. Has anyone ever made this road trip and explored towns like Rio San Juan, Abreu, Cabrera, Las Terranas or Samana. I've read a lot of the Forum but haven't read much about these locations.[/QUOTE]From Samana, north on the coastal route to Puerta Plata. It was very scenic with miles of shoreline and many beaches. This is a beautiful country. The farms and fields, tropical hardwoods, hills, mountains, some of the most beautiful country of the DR. I would suggest a guagua or small bus to medium sized bus. You might get lucky and get a front seat. Just ask a motorbike driver to leave you at the bus stop. Once you get on the Peninsula to Samana, there is a lot of road construction. From POP, it is a 5 hour ride.
[QUOTE=Kyle Fox]I've been to Sosua/POP 4 or 5 times and I'm coming back for a week next Thursday. I plan to rent a car and was thinking about driving East from Sosua past Cabarate and exploring out towards Samana. Has anyone ever made this road trip and explored towns like Rio San Juan, Abreu, Cabrera, Las Terranas or Samana. I've read a lot of the Forum but haven't read much about these locations.[/QUOTE]Easy ride, I drove to Laguna Gris Gris from Sosua and I stopped in Rio San Juan. When I drove a few years ago the roads were 90% good, a few places with some potholes, but overall the roads were good.
Samana is nice, there is Las Terrenas, Limon Falls, Playa Rincon.
A good pair of sunglasses with polarized lenses can cut down on the glare and improve visibility while driving, when it is very sunny.
You will drive through some towns, so drive slower when going through the towns. The road when I drove had very little traffic.
Something I always think about bringing with me, but I always forget is a package of Windex wipes (glass cleaner) for the rental car. Driving at night in Dom Rep with a dirty windshield, the oncoming traffic headlights glare is worse when a windshield has smudge on it. You can also use the windex wipes to clean the wiper blades. Lots of dust in DR, so the car and the glass will get dirty fairly quickly.
Been there done that a couple times. Easy going the whole way.
Rio San Juan is nice with Laguna Gri Gri and Playa Caleton. Good places to eat. Nice basic hotel on the water.
Gaspar Hernandez has a good car wash and a disco.
Las Terrenas has a small strip and good beaches outside of town.
Samana is a little too quiet to my mind's eye. But I had some friends who really enjoyed the limited night life.
I have been here a couple days, and I can't really say that I love it or hate it. OK, to be 100% honest, I alternate between loving it and hating it. Having the girls "Hola" me as I walk past their bars is certainly an experience that never happens back in the States, and when I am able to put my mind on island time, I can prop myself up against an outdoor bar over a Presidente while the afternoon lazily crawls by me. This is not something I can bring myself to do back in the States; there are simply too many things to be done. With that said, Sosua clearly is a small town in a developing nation, and the farther I got from the beach area, the more obvious that point is made with the vacant lots strew with garbage, the guards with shotguns, the stray dogs, and little kids pestering you for change, etc. Take it with a grain of salt because I haven't been globetrotting in the last 15 years, so if these kinds of things don't jar you, then you'll have a great time. I see plenty of expats and frequent visitors seeming quite at home here.
La Passion is really nice. The girls are all solid 7 to 9s, and some of the girls are even more amazing in person, and they are exactly what I'm into. They have features that aren't African, but they all have dark, smooth skin. The one hour all inclusive was cheap by North American standards, but I know that I overpaid by Sosua standards. I was too tire to negotiate, so for ease of use, I got what I needed, but the service was far below average of anything I have gotten in the past few years. The BJ was a short, and then the girl hopped right to FS and proceeded to bang me out in 5 minutes. After a long day, I wasn't into prolonging the session into a marathon either, so I didn't complain. I'd like to see if the quality of the sessions improve with me more rested.
Unlike the first time when I visited Montreal or Toronto, I did not say to myself in the first day that I'll definitely be back because there isn't a world-class city to go along with the action. If I do come back, I'd like to spend half of my vacation in an all inclusive resort being surrounded by beautiful if somewhat sterile scenery after I have gotten my fill of the action of course.
Thanks for the board for letting me know the lay of the land before I arrived.
Greetings:
Will be heading back to the DR soon. Would appreciate current update on the following:
What is the current market rate for ST and TLN?
What is the street rate on DRP for US$?
Have not booked trip yet, have notced on travel review sites reviews of Casa Marina with complaints about professional girls on site. Especialaly on weekneds when hotel is open to locals. Has the CM become guest friendly? What happens on weekends with locals at the hotel?
Is Sosua by the Sea guest friendly these days? If not, then:
What hotels are now recommended?
Thanks.
Hi,
I am planning to spend about 4-6 weeks, middle of January.
Because I need to work on the internet first of all, I consider an an appartment more apppropiate compared to a hotel room.
Can anybody recommend an agency ?
And how much $ for cost of living for a month, excluding fun ?
I want a gym close by, and need fast internet.
Thanx in advance.
[QUOTE=Erasmus]Greetings:
Will be heading back to the DR soon. Would appreciate current update on the following:
What is the current market rate for ST and TLN?
What is the street rate on DRP for US$?
Have not booked trip yet, have notced on travel review sites reviews of Casa Marina with complaints about professional girls on site. Especialaly on weekneds when hotel is open to locals. Has the CM become guest friendly? What happens on weekends with locals at the hotel?
Is Sosua by the Sea guest friendly these days? If not, then:
What hotels are now recommended?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]I've been here just over a month now, and I think it's fair to say that with the current lack of tourism, there's been something of a "market adjustment" regarding prices. Very strong buyer's market at present - it's been easy to pull girls out of Classicos for 1000 pesos short time with very little negotiation required. 1500-2000 is common for TLN, though I've gotten as low as 1000 from a few haitian girls.
Exchange rate is still good - just got 36.9 from the bank today. The D.R. remains very economical compared to Colombia or Brazil, where the dollar is getting killed.
To the best of my knowledge, Casa Marina is still not a "monger-friendly" hotel. No knowledge of Sosua By the Sea. But there's a host of other options, including the popular "ground zero" New Garden, Terra Linda just up the street, Sea Breeze, Europa, Don Antonio, etc., all of which are chica friendly.
Erasmus I can help answer a couple of your questions, but not all. My group's rule of thumb for ST and TLN is DOP1500 ST and DOP2500 TLN standard aka MAX. Anything else, and I feel like you're fuxing the game up. For those I GOT TO have, I go up to those prices, and else wise, if the vibe/energy is really good (vibe/energy is always requisite. Learned that the hard way after my 1st trip) but she's more like a 7 than a 9 appearance-wise, I'll low ball and see if she accepts. Street exchange rate, while I do not know it at this moment, I've never found to be more than a peso or two different from the rate you might find on google "X USD to DOP" searches and such. Airport exchange and other thieving spots are different, though.
Regarding lodging, I used to stay at Residencial Hispaniola (sorta upscale villas, but affordable) as 1st choice, but in recently speaking to the manager there, I learned they've become far-less chica friendly than in previous trips. "I don't want to see them! " was one of her quotes from our conversation in August. I've heard many good things about Terra Linda, so I'm giving that a shot here soon. Will report back in a few weeks.
[QUOTE=Erasmus]Greetings:
Will be heading back to the DR soon. Would appreciate current update on the following:
What is the current market rate for ST and TLN?
What is the street rate on DRP for US$?
Have not booked trip yet, have notced on travel review sites reviews of Casa Marina with complaints about professional girls on site. Especialaly on weekneds when hotel is open to locals. Has the CM become guest friendly? What happens on weekends with locals at the hotel?
Is Sosua by the Sea guest friendly these days? If not, then:
What hotels are now recommended?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Reiner Otto]Hi,
I am planning to spend about 4-6 weeks, middle of January.
Because I need to work on the internet first of all, I consider an an appartment more apppropiate compared to a hotel room.
Can anybody recommend an agency?
And how much $ for cost of living for a month, excluding fun?
I want a gym close by, and need fast internet.
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]If you need a reliable as opposed to just fast Internet connection, then the hotel wireless probably isn't going to do it for you. I was testing some program I was writing that required Internet access, and for a good two hours, I couldn't get on. I'm not sure if it was the wireless or the fact that I typed in the wrong password, but for work, I wouldn't count on the hotel wireless.
I'll be in town this weekend and would love to watch the UFC matches on pay-per-view. Any chance a bar in Sosua or Puerto Plata will have it?
[QUOTE=Getrhythm]I've been here just over a month now, and I think it's fair to say that with the current lack of tourism, there's been something of a "market adjustment" regarding prices. Very strong buyer's market at present - it's been easy to pull girls out of Classicos for 1000 pesos short time with very little negotiation required. 1500-2000 is common for TLN, though I've gotten as low as 1000 from a few haitian girls.
Exchange rate is still good - just got 36.9 from the bank today. The D.R. remains very economical compared to Colombia or Brazil, where the dollar is getting killed.
To the best of my knowledge, Casa Marina is still not a "monger-friendly" hotel. No knowledge of Sosua By the Sea. But there's a host of other options, including the popular "ground zero" New Garden, Terra Linda just up the street, Sea Breeze, Europa, Don Antonio, etc., all of which are chica friendly.[/QUOTE]
I live down here and I endorse all these remarks as "spot on".
The Dominican Peso shadows the US dollar so the exchange rate is never going to stray too far unless and until the DR Govt announces a major economic rethink. As they weren't hurt too badly directly by the recent recession (only indirectly with loss of tourism), and as the world economy is slowly on the mend, I don't foresee any major changes in the near future.
After being here for 1/2 a week, I am slowly adjusting to the stray dogs, the empty lots right next to the good-looking condos and homes, and the constant selling by the moto guys, the bar guys, and the food vendors. I'm even getting used to being ass grabbed by the girls, some of whom I wouldn't mind having private relations with save for the fact that negotiating in public still seems rather strange to me.
I ate some chicken grilled on an old oil drum BBQ and haven't worshipped at the porcelain altar as a result. Perhaps Tony Bourdain is right in that the street vendors don't stay in business long by poisoning their customers. Later today I'll try some of the delicious looking baked noodles and rice and beef from a vendor down the street.
I'm enjoying being able to go to a bar and drink a beer or two without calculating what percentage of my hourly wage those beers are costing me. Even with tips, the beers are only $1.50 to $2.00, so I can concentrate on BSing with the bar owners and fellow patrons or just chilling.
Today I'll be venturing to the beach in the late afternoon after a nap of course. My head is clearer than it has been in the past 4 months. I have written more code for my own business than I have in the past 4 weeks. Mistakes that I couldn't figure out for the last week got resolved in 10 minutes, and the new code I wrote are not full of problems. I guess not being constantly stressed out by the BS of work has ameliorating effects on one's mind, so this is why people take vacations! :)
Those are the good parts. The not so good parts has been the girls. The one super hot chick I pulled out of a well known bar was more interested in playing with my computer than playing with me. It was a strange experience. While I appreciated the half (distracted?) GFE and half PSE, the session left me feeling unfulfilled. I hope to get at least one wow session before the week is done.
[QUOTE=Geeberish]After being here for 1/2 a week, I am slowly adjusting to the stray dogs, the empty lots right next to the good-looking condos and homes, and the constant selling by the moto guys, the bar guys, and the food vendors. I'm even getting used to being ass grabbed by the girls, some of whom I wouldn't mind having private relations with save for the fact that negotiating in public still seems rather strange to me.[/QUOTE]Glad you got over the constant harassment of people literally begging for your money or begging for you to buy something from their establishment. To me that's the main NEGATIVE that I have about Sosua. Its a small town so everybody knows if your an out of towner and they have no problems begging you from sunrise to sundown. They bug the shit out of you cus they know you don't live there and that youll be leaving soon.
Just be firm with them and show no weakness. They can spot a sucker a mile away
[QUOTE=Geeberish]Those are the good parts. The not so good parts has been the girls. The one super hot chick I pulled out of a well known bar was more interested in playing with my computer than playing with me. It was a strange experience. While I appreciated the half (distracted?) GFE and half PSE, the session left me feeling unfulfilled. I hope to get at least one wow session before the week is done.[/QUOTE]Be careful with some of the super fine chicas down there. They know that there fine so they want to charge more and if they've been in Sosua for a long time then your experience with her is going to suck.
I know its hard to negotiate a price all out in the street, it was difficult for me the first time, so instead find a female that you have chemistry with, don't ask about price.
Just go off of chemistry and instinct. In other words just pretend that your in a bar in your home town and your trying to find a female to take home. Find a vibe or connection with that honey. See if she's digging you. Body language can tell me a lot about a woman. We all want the finest woman we see but now you're the one being hunted so take your time. Your checking her attitude, her scent of perfume, her eyes and hips, just watching and seeing if she's moving to your rhythm or if her eyes is on you like urs is on her.
I know it may sound a little unorthodox but from my experience the best females I had was when I didn't say a word about money and vise-versa. I still paid them in the end so I figure out the going price rate for "newbies that don't speak no espanol rate" and go from there.
(BTW I believe the current newbie-no espanol rate is Daytime action usually be between 1500-2000 peso and night time is between 2000-2500 peso)
Coolie, good advice! I go out quite a few days a week back in the States to go Salsa dancing, and I know exactly what you mean. I can dance my butt off with the "wrong" girl and still have the dance end just in a friendly hug and a look that says, "Don't bother asking for my phone number." With the right girl, I can feel the crowd disappear, and it's just me, her, and the music, and when a Bachata comes on, she's there looking for me for a slow dance.
LOL, I should have adopted the same approach here. Instead, I took that hot chick out again thinking that the 2nd time is the charm. Nope, instead of making wild sex, she watched TV, ate my food, drank my beer, and fell asleep. She's in the other bed sleeping now. LOL, this is the TWE, Tired Wife Experience, about which I have always been dreaming. With North American pros, even if they don't find you attractive in the least bit, they'd still bang you out with a PSE and part way cordially. I have never had a TWE in my entire life. Let this be a lesson to other Sosua newbies to go with the girls who dig you, and if you must go with the hottest chick, then don't pick her from an establishment that demands payment up front at 10 PM.
[QUOTE=Geeberish]Coolie, good advice! I go out quite a few days a week back in the States to go Salsa dancing, and I know exactly what you mean. I can dance my butt off with the "wrong" girl and still have the dance end just in a friendly hug and a look that says, "Don't bother asking for my phone number." With the right girl, I can feel the crowd disappear, and it's just me, her, and the music, and when a Bachata comes on, she's there looking for me for a slow dance.
LOL, I should have adopted the same approach here. Instead, I took that hot chick out again thinking that the 2nd time is the charm. Nope, instead of making wild sex, she watched TV, ate my food, drank my beer, and fell asleep. She's in the other bed sleeping now. LOL, this is the TWE, Tired Wife Experience, about which I have always been dreaming.[/QUOTE]Time out! Damn the jokes! Are you telling me that you hav a broad right now in Sosua that's eating up your shit, watching tv and fell asleep without giving you no sex. WTF
I hope to GOD you throw that B***H OUT as soon as you finish typing that report. Hell let's see her there's a 6 hour time difference fo each report to post so hopefully by the time you read this post you wouldve kicked that broad to the curve and found you another honey-dip
A broad eating up your shit and falling asleep in your bed and not take care of your needs first? I wish a hoe would. If that broad ain't out your presense by the time you read this I'm going call up the rest of the OG's of this forum(Mr. Gogo, Helpmann, Chief, Jao, BQ Ribs, Sir Charles, BoricuaOnline, etc) and get your monger license revoked.
That's damn near blasphemy to go to Sosua and have a woman NOT serve you just the way you like it. You have the money which means you have the power.
[QUOTE=Geeberish] I was testing some program I was writing that required Internet access, and for a good two hours, I couldn't get on. [/QUOTE]
Hi, may be, you are a collegue ?
I know so ancient languages like ALGOL, Basic, C, Cobol, Fortran, PL/1. Forgot the "A": And a few Assemblers :-) But now more into some web stuff ...
[QUOTE=Reiner Otto]Hi, may be, you are a collegue ?
I know so ancient languages like ALGOL, Basic, C, Cobol, Fortran, PL/1. Forgot the "A": And a few Assemblers :-) But now more into some web stuff ...[/QUOTE]
ALGOL? Didn't they, uh, write that in cuneiform on clay punch-cards? :D
I spent a few hours hanging out at CMP two weeks ago and liked it better than Passions. It is physically a better spot to have some drinks and play with the girls than Passions, esp. the new Passions. No hardselling, like you are sitting at a villa as opposed to the NY strip club style Passions.
The menu only had ST rates ($2500) and takeout from 9:00PM ($5000, ouch!).
The girls were on par with Passions as well.
I did not session with any of the girls, just played around with them and gave a small propina when I left.
[quote=coolie high]time out! damn the jokes! are you telling me that you hav a broad right now in sosua that's eating up your shit, watching tv and fell asleep without giving you no sex. wtf
i hope to god you throw that b***h out as soon as you finish typing that report. hell let's see her there's a 6 hour time difference fo each report to post so hopefully by the time you read this post you wouldve kicked that broad to the curve and found you another honey-dip
a broad eating up your shit and falling asleep in your bed and not take care of your needs first? i wish a hoe would. if that broad ain't out your presense by the time you read this i'm going call up the rest of the og's of this forum(mr. gogo, helpmann, chief, jao, bq ribs, sir charles, boricuaonline, etc) and get your monger license revoked.
that's damn near blasphemy to go to sosua and have a woman not serve you just the way you like it. you have the money which means you have the power.[/quote]
actually there is a good lesson here. she is playing the "i'm a good girl role" but everyone must understand that a "good girl" would not go anywhere near sosua. sosua is about money and sex period, don't get it twisted fellas.
interesting story.
once a wingman and i went to santiago to see my regular(good girl) and her friend. i gave my wingman the prep talk. we are staying in cabarette not sosua. i also told him no matter what don't say sosua.
well were sitting at the table with the family and he asks me what time classicos closes? i ignore him but the girls brother asks him"classicos in sosua"? he said "yeah". when sosua was mentioned everyone stopped eating and looked at me. i continued eating as i felt everyone staring. then my girl asks my boy if we were staying in cabarette. he said yes with me. then she asks what hotel? my boy looked at me as i ate(for help) then said newgarden in cabarette. her brother says newgarden is in sosua. i'm thinking"this motherfucker just killed me" so now i have to throw his dumb ass under the bus. i said i'm in cabarette and he is staying in sosua. we finish eating and my girl says i'm going home with you. i say i'm tired and just want to sleep and rest. needless to say she never called me and i never called her again. as me and my boy drive to classicos i ask"do you remember the gameplan" he gave me the fuck them hoes speech and i let it go.
[QUOTE=mho]I spent a few hours hanging out at CMP two weeks ago and liked it better than Passions. It is physically a better spot to have some drinks and play with the girls than Passions, esp. the new Passions. No hardselling, like you are sitting at a villa as opposed to the NY strip club style Passions.[/quote]Sorry for the dumb question but could not find other mentions of CMP.
What/Where is CMP?
Thanks!
[QUOTE=mho]I spent a few hours hanging out at CMP two weeks ago and liked it better than Passions. It is physically a better spot to have some drinks and play with the girls than Passions, esp. the new Passions. No hardselling, like you are sitting at a villa as opposed to the NY strip club style Passions.
The menu only had ST rates ($2500) and takeout from 9:00PM ($5000, ouch!).
The girls were on par with Passions as well.
I did not session with any of the girls, just played around with them and gave a small propina when I left.[/QUOTE]
That is FAR too much money. You can have a girl for a few days for $5.000 DOP.
[QUOTE=Professor 1]That is FAR too much money. You can have a girl for a few days for $5.000 DOP.[/QUOTE]
Im sure MHO knows this but was just passing along the info for anybody who might think they would want to partake.
I need some help , I was in Sosua a few years back and stayed at hotel Europa. I will be going back in February and want to know Should I stay at Europa or New Garden? Are both Female friendly? Cons / Pros?
Also we went to a place (Bar) that was like 20 minutes away from Europa that was in the middle of nowhere It was a Bar that was in the woods and looked like a bamboo tiki hut and in the back was some rooms for the girls to do their business. I want to visit that place again but dont know the name any help?
stayed at hotel europa, i know people have moved on to new garden, sea breeze etc etc, but the europa for me is "good enough" clean enough and huge rooms, ive been going there since 02' and diego who can get difficult from time to time has always given me a good rate and treated me well, the rest of my posse' stayed at sosua bay and the sea breeze. p.s. bring your own toilet paper, i'm serious.
i like to eat at ricky's which is right up the block from the hotel, the food is always good and fresh, not cheap though for comida tipico, rice, chicken, salad and a soda can cost you 280-350pesos($10) with small tip. then there are the usual good places, pj's, bologna pizza. choose your destinations carefully to avoid the shits. this can fuck up your whole trip.
hung out a lot at the beach, my friends working at the beach are in dire straights, it is very very slow and the people seem to be in desperation. you will be bombarded by every single type of vendor known to man, say yes or no aggressively or they will never leave. my friend says that the politur is harassing the girls that used to walk along the beach in abundance. bad move for the tourist trade.
real bright spot, cmp sosua is a real gem! the owner is from spain and a real nice guy! they created this place to offer competition for passions and i think they hit it spot on.. it is about 2 blocks before passions on the same side of the street. it is more like a resort with girls lounging around chairs and tables in all states of dress(around 20), rather than some kind of thai bar ala passions where all the girls wear the same outfits, are on the other side of the bar on which you just share a hand hold moment and really stare you down (so fake) like you are brad pitt and the last man on earth.. plus the owner of passions thinks hes a real tough guy and seems to rub me the wrong way. to each his own.
at cmp sosua the ladies are very friendly but not overly aggressive, now here"s the kicker, not one chica in there asked me for one peso or for anything not even for one beer, obviously this must have been something that was strictly enforced to the girls. so something happens when girls don"t ask me for drinks, i offer one to them! after having a beautiful girl sit on my lap for a long while i am also glad to give up some small amount of pesos for their time for which she is very much obliged.
last but not least, the pool party on saturday's never have i seen gringos have such a great time all in one place, plenty of naked women for all, good food, great pictures, good dj and not one gringo with attitude. just an all around good time with a wet t-shirt contest at the end to top it all off. i would like to post some pics but it would involve a lot of "face editing"
night life: start at rumba and flow, both have cheap large beers and good place to start off looking at any eye candy and free lancers walking by. next stop latinos down stairs, look at the eye candy, free lancers and watch the girls walk up the stairs(nice pantie shots lol) next? upstairs to classicos, always a selection of hell no's and some not bads and few hotties.
this is a buyers market guys with a 4 girls to 1 ration. i was able to negotiate tln with some of the higher end girls for 1500, plus 50 pesos for motoconcho. how was i able to do this you may ask? simple, i speak perfect spanish, i don't look bad, dress well, pretty good shape now, have gift of gab(most important) and i tell them that "i pay 1500, look around and if either if us don't find anything we go together. i tell you 9 times out of 10 i was going home with the girl. all you mongers out there paying 2500-3500 are just fucking shit up for everybody else, don't give a shit or are weekend warriors who just want to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] away their money. tighten up your negotiating skills son and don't be afraid to walk.
then for you night owls hit the casino just up the street open til like 7am, all the left over gringos and ladies will end up there for a last chance gig.
final thoughts, many less haitans around imo, less street walkers, much much more police and politur presence. good or bad? i'm not sure yet. got shaken down though. police pulled me over on my scooter for not wearing my helmet, they were on pedro clisante and not on the main road above were they usually hang out. i tried everything.. "no speakey spanish, i know the police sergeant, i'm a tourist who has been coming down for 8 years", blah blah blah, the guy wouldn't budge he wanted to be greased no matter what. he threatened to confirep001e my moto. so while filling out the "official" paper work i asked him what was the process he said that i needed to go to some bank and wait in line and pay this shit then return to the police station with the paid receipt. i then told him "how about i just give it to you and you drop the money off" he said "ok" i gave him the money and the "official infraction" went into a rain puddle in the water and my 1000 pesos went into his pocket.
if they start hassling tourists as a norm over there to get greased for petty bullshit i will not be returning for this was my first run in with the law in 8 years. this practice will only hurt the tourism business in the end. you can't imagine how many poor motoconch drivers are so upset with the policia and transito there.
Where abouts is CMP ?
[quote=miamiheatluver]...got shaken down though. police pulled me over on my scooter for not wearing my helmet, they were on pedro clisante and not on the main road above were they usually hang out. i tried everything.. "no speakey spanish, i know the police sergeant, i'm a tourist who has been coming down for 8 years", blah blah blah, the guy wouldn't budge he wanted to be greased no matter what. he threatened to confirep001e my moto. so while filling out the "official" paper work i asked him what was the process he said that i needed to go to some bank and wait in line and pay this shit then return to the police station with the paid receipt...[/quote]were you pulled over by amet, the national police, or the politur?
thanks,
helpmann :)
[QUOTE=Helpmann]Were you pulled over by AMET, the National Police, or the Politur?
Thanks,
Helpmann :)[/QUOTE]
Definitely NOT Politur, Green Shirts Blue Pants maybe?
[QUOTE=BigSmile]Where abouts is CMP ?[/QUOTE]
CMP EL BATEY, is an acronym for "Carribbean Men's Paradise", It is about 2 blocks before Passions(same side of street). Address is PEDRO CLISANTE 32
[quote=mr gogo]actually there is a good lesson here. she is playing the "i'm a good girl role" but everyone must understand that a "good girl" would not go anywhere near sosua. sosua is about money and sex period, don't get it twisted fellas.
interesting story.
once a wingman and i went to santiago to see my regular(good girl) and her friend. i gave my wingman the prep talk. we are staying in cabarette not sosua. i also told him no matter what don't say sosua.
well were sitting at the table with the family and he asks me what time classicos closes? i ignore him but the girls brother asks him"classicos in sosua"? he said "yeah". when sosua was mentioned everyone stopped eating and looked at me. i continued eating as i felt everyone staring. then my girl asks my boy if we were staying in cabarette. he said yes with me. then she asks what hotel? my boy looked at me as i ate(for help) then said newgarden in cabarette. her brother says newgarden is in sosua. i'm thinking"this motherfucker just killed me" so now i have to throw his dumb ass under the bus. i said i'm in cabarette and he is staying in sosua. we finish eating and my girl says i'm going home with you. i say i'm tired and just want to sleep and rest. needless to say she never called me and i never called her again. as me and my boy drive to classicos i ask"do you remember the gameplan" he gave me the fuck them hoes speech and i let it go.[/quote]
hey everone makes mistakes,but you made a great point in your instructions and it was no use. the fuck them hoes speech does not cut it with a good girl you really like. the longer i monger, the more i learn the value of a good wingman.
[quote=mr gogo]actually there is a good lesson here. she is playing the "i'm a good girl role" but everyone must understand that a "good girl" would not go anywhere near sosua. sosua is about money and sex period, don't get it twisted fellas.
interesting story.
once a wingman and i went to santiago to see my regular(good girl) and her friend. i gave my wingman the prep talk. we are staying in cabarette not sosua. i also told him no matter what don't say sosua.
well were sitting at the table with the family and he asks me what time classicos closes? i ignore him but the girls brother asks him"classicos in sosua"? he said "yeah". when sosua was mentioned everyone stopped eating and looked at me. i continued eating as i felt everyone staring. then my girl asks my boy if we were staying in cabarette. he said yes with me. then she asks what hotel? my boy looked at me as i ate(for help) then said newgarden in cabarette. her brother says newgarden is in sosua. i'm thinking"this motherfucker just killed me" so now i have to throw his dumb ass under the bus. i said i'm in cabarette and he is staying in sosua. we finish eating and my girl says i'm going home with you. i say i'm tired and just want to sleep and rest. needless to say she never called me and i never called her again. as me and my boy drive to classicos i ask"do you remember the gameplan" he gave me the fuck them hoes speech and i let it go.[/quote]i would of half way respected him if he said 'oh my bad, i fuked up, ' but the 'fuk them hoes' speech is lame especially in that situation. sounds like he had a little haterade in him or he just had no class bc why didn't he ask you that on the low or txt you that question. you do not bring classicos up in that situation. even if just meet a girl that may be a 'good girl' you do not mention classicos.
[quote=miamiheatluver]stayed at hotel europa, i know people have moved on to new garden, sea breeze etc etc, but the europa for me is "good enough" clean enough and huge rooms, ive been going there since 02' and diego who can get difficult from time to time has always given me a good rate and treated me well, the rest of my posse' stayed at sosua bay and the sea breeze. p.s. bring your own toilet paper, i'm serious.
i like to eat at ricky's which is right up the block from the hotel, the food is always good and fresh, not cheap though for comida tipico, rice, chicken, salad and a soda can cost you 280-350pesos($10) with small tip. then there are the usual good places, pj's, bologna pizza. choose your destinations carefully to avoid the shits. this can fuck up your whole trip.
hung out a lot at the beach, my friends working at the beach are in dire straights, it is very very slow and the people seem to be in desperation. you will be bombarded by every single type of vendor known to man, say yes or no aggressively or they will never leave. my friend says that the politur is harassing the girls that used to walk along the beach in abundance. bad move for the tourist trade.
real bright spot, cmp sosua is a real gem! the owner is from spain and a real nice guy! they created this place to offer competition for passions and i think they hit it spot on.. it is about 2 blocks before passions on the same side of the street. it is more like a resort with girls lounging around chairs and tables in all states of dress(around 20), rather than some kind of thai bar ala passions where all the girls wear the same outfits, are on the other side of the bar on which you just share a hand hold moment and really stare you down (so fake) like you are brad pitt and the last man on earth.. plus the owner of passions thinks hes a real tough guy and seems to rub me the wrong way. to each his own.
at cmp sosua the ladies are very friendly but not overly aggressive, now here"s the kicker, not one chica in there asked me for one peso or for anything not even for one beer, obviously this must have been something that was strictly enforced to the girls. so something happens when girls don"t ask me for drinks, i offer one to them! after having a beautiful girl sit on my lap for a long while i am also glad to give up some small amount of pesos for their time for which she is very much obliged.
last but not least, the pool party on saturday's never have i seen gringos have such a great time all in one place, plenty of naked women for all, good food, great pictures, good dj and not one gringo with attitude. just an all around good time with a wet t-shirt contest at the end to top it all off. i would like to post some pics but it would involve a lot of "face editing"
night life: start at rumba and flow, both have cheap large beers and good place to start off looking at any eye candy and free lancers walking by. next stop latinos down stairs, look at the eye candy, free lancers and watch the girls walk up the stairs(nice pantie shots lol) next? upstairs to classicos, always a selection of hell no's and some not bads and few hotties.
this is a buyers market guys with a 4 girls to 1 ration. i was able to negotiate tln with some of the higher end girls for 1500, plus 50 pesos for motoconcho. how was i able to do this you may ask? simple, i speak perfect spanish, i don't look bad, dress well, pretty good shape now, have gift of gab(most important) and i tell them that "i pay 1500, look around and if either if us don't find anything we go together. i tell you 9 times out of 10 i was going home with the girl. all you mongers out there paying 2500-3500 are just fucking shit up for everybody else, don't give a shit or are weekend warriors who just want to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] away their money. tighten up your negotiating skills son and don't be afraid to walk.
then for you night owls hit the casino just up the street open til like 7am, all the left over gringos and ladies will end up there for a last chance gig.
final thoughts, many less haitans around imo, less street walkers, much much more police and politur presence. good or bad? i'm not sure yet. got shaken down though. police pulled me over on my scooter for not wearing my helmet, they were on pedro clisante and not on the main road above were they usually hang out. i tried everything.. "no speakey spanish, i know the police sergeant, i'm a tourist who has been coming down for 8 years", blah blah blah, the guy wouldn't budge he wanted to be greased no matter what. he threatened to confirep001e my moto. so while filling out the "official" paper work i asked him what was the process he said that i needed to go to some bank and wait in line and pay this shit then return to the police station with the paid receipt. i then told him "how about i just give it to you and you drop the money off" he said "ok" i gave him the money and the "official infraction" went into a rain puddle in the water and my 1000 pesos went into his pocket.
if they start hassling tourists as a norm over there to get greased for petty bullshit i will not be returning for this was my first run in with the law in 8 years. this practice will only hurt the tourism business in the end. you can't imagine how many poor motoconch drivers are so upset with the policia and transito there.[/quote]great report and excellent take on the scene at present. agree that cmp offers a much-needed alternative to passions, and am anxious to check out the pool party tomorrow. also, there's absolutely no reason to pay more than 1500 for anything in the current buyer's market. overall a great value scene, though i could sure do without a lot of the street urchins begging for money constantly.
[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver]Im sure MHO knows this but was just passing along the info for anybody who might think they would want to partake.[/QUOTE]Agree, $5000 is too high for me as I have a few trips under my belt. The price is probably on par with Passions (9:00PM until ?) but still too high, maybe on principle alone.
As MiamiHeatLuver said, it is a really nice relaxing spot. I hope they get some business or else the girls will go and it will become another failed business in Sosua.
I really have no problem with a reasonable salida because if I want it, then I should have it. There was 2 menus, one with a $1000 peso salida but I was told that was an error and the only salida was the $5000 (ouch again).
Hopefully, they will work on the salida a bit and lower or pro-rate it a bit. Lower the price to get more business, sell more drinks etc.
Yes, I know that I can go to Classicos and get an independent and say "Fuck the sailda" but it is always good to have some alternate palces to go, switch it up a bit.
[QUOTE=Bigbx222]I need some help , I was in Sosua a few years back and stayed at hotel Europa. I will be going back in February and want to know Should I stay at Europa or New Garden? Are both Female friendly? Cons / Pros?
Also we went to a place (Bar) that was like 20 minutes away from Europa that was in the middle of nowhere It was a Bar that was in the woods and looked like a bamboo tiki hut and in the back was some rooms for the girls to do their business. I want to visit that place again but dont know the name any help?[/QUOTE]New Garden or Terra Linda.
[QUOTE=mho]Agree, $5000 is too high for me as I have a few trips under my belt. The price is probably on par with Passions (9:00PM until ?) but still too high, maybe on principle alone.
As MiamiHeatLuver said, it is a really nice relaxing spot. I hope they get some business or else the girls will go and it will become another failed business in Sosua.
I really have no problem with a reasonable salida because if I want it, then I should have it. There was 2 menus, one with a $1000 peso salida but I was told that was an error and the only salida was the $5000 (ouch again).
Hopefully, they will work on the salida a bit and lower or pro-rate it a bit. Lower the price to get more business, sell more drinks etc.
Yes, I know that I can go to Classicos and get an independent and say "Fuck the sailda" but it is always good to have some alternate palces to go, switch it up a bit.[/QUOTE]
p.s. Ive seen almost all of the chicks from CMP at classicos in the wee hours were as i've seen some Passions girls there as well, just in smaller numbers at Classicos as well.. There you can save on the multa(salida).
Are the chicas still hanging out at the New Garden?
Are things really as bad as they say lately pussy wise.
[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver]p.s. Ive seen almost all of the chicks from CMP at classicos in the wee hours were as i've seen some Passions girls there as well, just in smaller numbers at Classicos as well.. There you can save on the multa(salida).[/QUOTE]For me, the value of the girl drops exponentially with the time of night and the number of drinks that I have had. Coming back to the hotel at 3:30 and struggling to bust one (I have done this many times) is not really a TLN in my book.
Some of my best nights in Sosua have been,
1. Having my nightly chica prearranged and arriving early, mess around, pool or dinner, mess around, TV/drinks/food, mess around, good night sleep, morning session, breakfast and then "adios mi amor".
2. Going on a bar crawl and spending time with my friends, the girls become secondary at this point and sometimes I will come back alone just to get some sleep.
I guess what I am trying to say is that I would not sweat a reasonable salida. Not everything should come down to worrying about $500-1000 pesos, you should aim to have the best time possible when you are on vacation.
[QUOTE=TeamHorny]Are the chicas still hanging out at the New Garden?
Are things really as bad as they say lately pussy wise.[/QUOTE]
Who says that?
Any report I have read on this or other boards from sensible posters says that it is business much as usual. Certainly on my last two visits to Sosúa this month there have been as many chicas as ever.
There are longer term issues to do with the economy and fall off in tourists which may be affecting the number and quality of chicas. Long-time visitors report that quality "semi-putas" are being driven off the scene by more hard-core or desperate chicas but this is nothing to do with the reported purge. (If anything, the "purge" might help to reverse that trend).
I think there is some truth in what they say but it is also that after five or so years of visits the excitement wears off and guys get more picky. They compare the scene today with a selective pick in their memories from the best over several years. We all do this whether talking about our favorite music, sports players, restaurants, or whatever. It is how the "old days were best" syndrome comes about.
A lot of those guys are now going to Colombia instead. I have no doubt that in five years they will be saying "Colombia is not what it was" and this will be partly true because increased demand pushes up prices and an influx of weekend warriors who speak no Spanish and don't know how to behave will harden the chicas as it has done in Sosúa. But also it will be the selective memories at work.
[QUOTE=Charles Pooter]Who says that?
A lot of those guys are now going to Colombia instead. I have no doubt that in five years they will be saying "Colombia is not what it was" and this will be partly true because increased demand pushes up prices and an influx of weekend warriors who speak no Spanish and don't know how to behave will harden the chicas as it has done in Sosúa. But also it will be the selective memories at work.[/QUOTE]
Very well put, ive been going to Colombia as well since 2005 and literally seen prices DOUBLE in Medellin and TRIPLE in Cartagena so ive been going to other cities through connecting flights and keep my mouth SHUT, lol
Hey Guys,
I am heading to Sosua with a couple friends and we are thinking of renting this place [url]http://www.1villacalifornia.com[/url] which I know several members have stayed at. The question I have is this in a gated community or is it available to some thieves to rob the place?
Thanks
[quote=mr gogo]actually there is a good lesson here. she is playing the "i'm a good girl role" but everyone must understand that a "good girl" would not go anywhere near sosua. sosua is about money and sex period, don't get it twisted fellas.
interesting story.
once a wingman and i went to santiago to see my regular(good girl) and her friend. i gave my wingman the prep talk. we are staying in cabarette not sosua. i also told him no matter what don't say sosua.
well were sitting at the table with the family and he asks me what time classicos closes? i ignore him but the girls brother asks him"classicos in sosua"? he said "yeah". when sosua was mentioned everyone stopped eating and looked at me. i continued eating as i felt everyone staring. then my girl asks my boy if we were staying in cabarette. he said yes with me. then she asks what hotel? my boy looked at me as i ate(for help) then said newgarden in cabarette. her brother says newgarden is in sosua. i'm thinking"this motherfucker just killed me" so now i have to throw his dumb ass under the bus. i said i'm in cabarette and he is staying in sosua. we finish eating and my girl says i'm going home with you. i say i'm tired and just want to sleep and rest. needless to say she never called me and i never called her again. as me and my boy drive to classicos i ask"do you remember the gameplan" he gave me the fuck them hoes speech and i let it go.[/quote]many girls from santiago say they are good, or they seem good, got had by some up there. diana and her friend jael frequently visit sosua and got taken by them. i was with diana and her friend kept wanting to, do me , meanwhile i see jael in sosua and passed on being good to her. many of girls come semi pro down to sosua for extra loot, be ware if you run into the so called "good girl"
[QUOTE=Manizales911]Hey Guys,
I am heading to Sosua with a couple friends and we are thinking of renting this place [url]http://www.1villacalifornia.com[/url] which I know several members have stayed at. The question I have is this in a gated community or is it available to some thieves to rob the place?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
That house is around the corner from Art Tarlow's home in Playa Chiquita. To answer your question, it is not in a "gated" community, most larger villas there are individually walled in, in the case of Mister Tarlow, someone had the keys.
[url]http://www.oregonlive.com/business/index.ssf/2010/06/tarlows_slaying_raises_questio.html[/url]
My sept. 2010 trip. Banged some new faces never seen before. Repeated with 3 chicas from last year. Very few tourists compared to other years. Lapassions used to be the bomb, Now, the new lapassions is dead to me. Not worth my time. There's a Men's Club with the same type pricing as Lapassion, not worth my time. With more experience plus spanish, I could get short time from 500. 1000rd. I pay no more than mil peso. The women from other latin countries may be better, but Sosua, It's closer and cheaper for me. Tourist police seem to harass the chicas walking the streets, so they have to walk with a man or run into the bars, club. Cannot tell how long Sosua is to survive with the Tourist police harassing the chicas. I had mucho fun mixed in with relaxation. I go for the chicas in the range of 5, 6, 7, 8. For me, My age preference is 25 and up. Don't like them any younger. Just when I think I need a day or night of rest, I end up banging another one. Is it just me? But El Flow always seem to have some fight incident every time I visit. Another trip filled with good memories.
[QUOTE=Manizales911]Hey Guys,
I am heading to Sosua with a couple friends and we are thinking of renting this place [url]http://www.1villacalifornia.com[/url] which I know several members have stayed at. The question I have is this in a gated community or is it available to some thieves to rob the place?
Thanks[/QUOTE]It's in a gated community. Guards at the front gate and all through the compound. Nothing to worry about.
[QUOTE=Megaman71]Many girls from Santiago say they are good, or they seem good, got had by some up there. Diana and her friend Jael frequently visit Sosua and got taken by them. I was with Diana and her friend kept wanting to, do me , meanwhile I see Jael in sosua and passed on being good to her. Many of girls come semi pro down to Sosua for extra loot, be ware if you run into the so called "good Girl"[/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice, but i don't trust any women outside my family. The minute you trust them they do some fucked up shit. If you dont trust them that stupid shit doesnt surprise you.
[QUOTE=Megaman71]Many girls from Santiago say they are good, or they seem good, got had by some up there. Diana and her friend Jael frequently visit Sosua and got taken by them. I was with Diana and her friend kept wanting to, do me , meanwhile I see Jael in sosua and passed on being good to her. Many of girls come semi pro down to Sosua for extra loot, be ware if you run into the so called "good Girl"[/QUOTE]
Duke. If they are visiting Sosua they are hoes. There is no such thing as a good Santiago girl that comes to Sosua except with here family during semana Santos. If she is from Santiago and she is in Sosua she is looking for some money.
[QUOTE=Negro562]Duke. If they are visiting Sosua they are hoes. There is no such thing as a good Santiago girl that comes to Sosua except with here family during semana Santos. If she is from Santiago and she is in Sosua she is looking for some money.[/QUOTE]
Well said and Spot on.. I try to explain this to my newbie friend who's girlfriend came from Santiago who he met in Classicos but is now rehabbed.. he he he he lol.. I will rescue him!
The theme of this report is Accountability. I was on my 5th trip to Sosua and this was my first visit since spending 8 weeks in Sosua 2 years ago.
Accountability (as defined by Miriam-Webster online): an obligation or willingness to accept responsibility or to account for one's actions.
This is what it is all about.
Hotel Don Andres: Stayed here 3 nights for $40/night. Very basic accomodations but Bert and Henrik are friendly and reliable. They have some nice 2 room apartments that have more space than other places. I returned here because of good reliable service in the past and its chica friendly.
Hotel: Terra Linda: I had very poor or no Internet connection during my 3 days stay here. They are one of the most expensive hotels in the area, yet they did not get this right. I inquired to the front desk multiple times and they kept telling me they would get to it. I believed them at first but after the 2nd day I grew weary of "I'll look into it very soon". I'm a regular internet user who checks email regularly, uses Skype to make calls to the States and likes to do a bunch of surfing. I ended up leaving my hotel to do those things and going to the small internet hole in the wall just up the street. That is totally unsatisfactory compared to paying $69 vs. $40 or $55 I paid at other places with very reliable Internet service. Upon checkout, I asked the clerk on duty to provide me a small refund to compensate the service that was paid for and not provided. He told me that there was a problem with the service and he could not do anything, they would have to call someone. I said I paid for a service for which I didn't receive, and yes this was his problem. He went on with the "well, this is the DR and one can't control these things. " Meanwhile, the unattractive hole in the wall just 40 yards away had reliable Internet service each time I left my comfortable hotel room to use the Internet.
An owner /manager came out of an office right by the front desk and was overhearing my complaining. He asked the clerk directly, "When does this customer check out? " I interjected and said "I'm leaving today". The clerk told him I was in the process of checking out right now and he said "Good" to the clerk and did not address me although I was 4 feet way. This total disrespect was very infuriating. I promised them on the spot I would write a letter which would cause them to lose hundreds of dollars. Here I've kept my promise. Too bad they did not keep theirs.
Now accountability: This hotel will not get any repeat business from me. That costs them about one week every year or $483/year, and probably $1500 over the next 4 years. This all could have been saved if they would have refunded $4-$5 per day for the lack of Internet service. There was no apology, no I'm sorry, no offer any type of other compensation. Just "sorry, there is a problem and it is not within our control". I gave them an opportunity to be accountable and did not respond. This failure to be accountable is a bad business decision as no doubt this report may cost them several thousand dollars more in lost business. It is a nice hotel, but for someone who depends on reliable Internet service, this is not the place for you.
One other annoyance I had was that I was in the middle of a nice romantic swim in the pool with a beautiful chica and a waiter comes up and asks us if we want a drink. WHILE we are swimming. WTF! Never interrupt me when I'm in the pool with my chica.
LA PASSIONS: I have been to this place on each visit I've made to Sosua, usually just to look and once going with a chica onsite. I found the lineup to be much younger and tighter bodies than in previous visits. I took Rhianna out the first night because she gave me just a great vibe while we talked in the bar. She is beautiful and her face reminds me of Halle Berry between her eyes and her mouth. She was a great GFE although in the morning she did not want to french kiss. That was a little disappointing after an otherwise great night. Good eager service, friendly and super adorable. She did perform very well in the morning, just no kissing. She has a great-shaped B-cup breasts that you can't really tell when she has a shirt on. I am still day dreaming about her 3 days after my return. I paid 3500DP for takeout at 10pm, return at 10am. That is a big amount for Sosua, however the roughly $100 is 5 couch dances at my local gentlemen's club. In that respect, it is a great price.
There was another smoking girl at La Passions named Diana. She had a wonderfully flat stomach and legs to die for. She was taken 2 nights I wanted her. I met one guy who got an onsite BJ. He said her service was lackluster and she didn't take her top off so I'm probably better off for not going with her. But I found her body so tight I just loved to sit and watch her in the small outfits. One other good thing about La Passions is they wear skimply clothing and occasionally remove tops and strip down to the G-string. This is great to know what you are going to get ahead of time. Often times at Classico's or Latinos the girl can look good in clothes but fall apart upon disrobing.
CARRIBEAN MEN'S PARADISE. I stopped here which is 2 blocks from La Passions on the side closer to Latinos. It is a good second option with plans similar to La Passions. I thought the lineup was better at La Passions, but some very doable girls here. I was there twice and the worst part was there was not many other guys. While this could be an advantage, I had the feeling that my move to talk to a girl, buy a drink, etc. Was being watched by about 20 pairs of eyes and I didn't light that feeling. I spoke to one girl who said she used to work in La Passions for several years. She was 29, look 25-26. The idea of the mileage on her for several years at La Passions was discouraging and I didn't go with her.
CLASSICO'S, LATINOS, EL FLOW, etc. I spent a good deal of time walking up and down the street of sitting at a table and watching the traffic go by. Having lived here for 8 weeks 2 years ago, I notice a good bit of change. Some bars are now closed and very quiet while El Flow, Rumba and X-Club now exist and have decent crowds. La Rumba is owned by a guy from New York and cater to a more upscale Dominican crowd and I did not see much chica action over there. El Flow seemed to also be mostlly local Dominicans but many of the girls were in play. Latinos dance floor was much quieter than 2 years ago and didn't really get busy until later, about 12am.
I met a pretty Haitian named Joselin at Classicos. She was about 5'6", nice body, large breasts and very pretty smile. I interviewed her and about what she did/didn't do and she said "anything you want. " I took her back to my place and she was a relatively poor performer who gave me "cold fish" service. That is a girl who lies on the bed and expects to lay there and you do them. I had directly told her that french kissing was very important to me and she said no problem. Well here she said she didn't like to do that. In my mind I picked her up and threw her out on the street. I hate when chicas do this.
Here's a case where a chica who could earn repeat business and get a good tip if she offered good service. She lost out. 2 nights later I saw her again at Latinos. She came up to me and smiled and said "let's go". I said sorry, you did not french kiss the way I wanted last time. She said she would this time. I said that is no good, you have to be accountable for your actions last time and you were not trustworthy. Her face/body was an 8, but her service was a 4.
The age of the chicas I was with was 22, 19, 20, 19, 20. I personally love the young skin and tight bodies of the younger chicas. Not to mention the idea of low mileage. Yes some of them are immature and haven't mastered good techniques.
Friday afternoon I was walking to the beach to go for a swim and as I walk past El Flow I saw this incredible young and beautiful face. I kept going another 2 stores down and then thought to myself, "What the hell am I doing? This is the youngest, freshest face I've seen down here in years. " I went back to El Flow and approached her and her friends. Her name was Daniella (Denis Daniellla on her ID). She had great natural boobs, a low-cut shirt to expose them and very tight body all around. I asked her is she had a bathing suit and she said she didn't. I said if I bought you one would you go swimming with me. She agreed and I bought her a suit and we went back to Terra Linda for a swim. She claimed her friend was a Sosua regular and this was her first time and she didn't plan to "work" as her friend did.
She came back to the hotel room changed into the bathing suit and DAMN if she wasn't amazing looking. Not a flaw on this girl. We went down to the pool and did some cuddling, kissing and light swimming. There were 3-4 guys throwing a football in the pool and I could read all of their minds, "Where the hell did you find this fine girl? I want her as soon as you are done with her. " She dressed well, carried herself well, a different class then the Sosua locals. After the swim we came back up to my hotel room. She cuddled with me in her underwear but was not open to doing anything more. I told her I wanted to spend more time with her and she said she wanted to get back to her friend. I walked her back to El Flow to meet her friend. She told me she was planning to go back to Santiago later that night. I left her and went for dinner.
Two hours later I was walking by El Flow and there was Daniella with her friend. I was happy to see her even though I felt she lied to me. She said here friend had made her stay and that she wanted to leave. Seemed like they were just enjoying the music, the crowd and the beer at El Flow. I couldn't totally figure it out. I offered to take both her and her friend just to see if they were open to it. She said they were "waiting" for someone. My mentira-meter (lie detector) was going off quite loudly now. I left again. Ninety minutes later I walked by and heard her friend Michelle trying to negotiate a price with someone. I'm still confused by that one. I wanted to ask "You don't like my money? "
Later this night I came across Eliani, a cute 20-year old who has 1 bambino. I got her number and made plans for Sunday morning. She's a pretty girl though has 2 scratches at the top left-side of her cheek. I didn't ask how she got them. I think 8-10pm on Thursday through Sunday is the primetime to meet a lot of good talent and get their phone numbers for later. I did call her Sunday and had her come over to my room at Terra Linda. She came over and immediately said she was hungry. I gave her 250 pesos to get food and return. She did. She got chicken and rice, brought it back and then ate it. Then she was tired. I let her nap for 15 minutes on the "cama rica" (rich bed). After that we showered and fooled around some. Overall her personal hygiene left something to be desired. I did DATY but the bad smell (even after a shower) killed my enthusiasm for that shortened my visit there.
Overall she has a great little body, breasts show some from the bambino. I had thought I might spend a couple of hours and really go at it with her but something about her said "this girl is unclean" and it killed my desires. She ended up being with me for 2. 5 hours with meal, nap, music time and shower included. I gave her 1500DP. I had 700 pesos sittiing open on the counter. She asked for a 500DP tip. I said no, I had paid her well and also gotten her lunch. I gave her 100DP. She grabbed the 2nd 100DP note and said can I have this too. Please, Please, Please. I said no. I have been very generous with you and it was ugly to be begging (I speak reasonable Spanish). She cried and whined and kept pleading. I said please put my 100 pesos back, I did not give that to you. I said if you don't, I will talk to the manager here. She finally conceded and said "Here's your F-ing 100 pesos. " The 100 pesos, about $3 isn't that much, but it was the principle. The fact that I could be very generous with her, accomodating her hunger, tiredness, etc. Then, when she picked up my 100 pesos and I asked for my own money back, she got really upset with me for asking for something that was mine. That is the street-chica element that I do not like about Sosua.
Sunday night I went back to La Passions and wanted to go with Diana or petite girl who had both caught my eye of previous visits. Bases on my friends weak review of Diana, I went for petite girl. If you go do Passions website, you can see photos of all the girls who work there. I found the girls better looking that their posted pictures. I really liked petite girls' look and got a good vibe from her. I did take her TLN for $3500. The one thing about La Passions is that they are accountable to the owner of the place, so stealing and other abusive behavior is very unlikely. This is worth something in Sosua as my experience with 20+ girls there is that roughly 50% under perform what is promised and 20% of the street chicas lie, deceive and get abusive.
Petite girl and I got back to my place, she was a good sport and came down to the pool in bra and panties at 11pm and stuck her feet in the water while I took a swim. We went back to the room and started making out. She has a great little body, a little spinner. She has 1 child and her breasts did reflect that. I did notice on this trip more than any other how the girls who had children had much more sagging breasts than those without children. This never stuck out so much to me before. I wonder how much of it depends on how the girls nurses and maintains herself. I have even found a few chicas that have breasts that are like deflated tires.
So I'm making out with petite girl and a pattern is developing. I told her in the bar I really like french kissing and she says that is fine with a smile/wink. Well as we kiss, it goes kiss for 2 seconds then she turns her head so I'm at her cheek and neck. Then I reposition face to face to kiss her mouth and the pattern repeats. I cannot get into it. I stop and tell her and she says Ok. She then starts kissing me but very forcefully puts her arm behind my head and pulls my head hard towards hers. This was way to forceful to be enjoyed. I tell her I don't like the arm behind my head. She then kisses me hard with her lips tight, rubbing hard back and forth across the front of my mouth. I'm wondering if she is trying to do what I want or is she exaggerating and trying to hurt/annoy me and saying "Ok, you wanted hard, deep kisses, here you go! " Whatever the hell is was, it was not soft and sweet. What I was looking for.
I stopped, laid on my back and said "I don't feel good". She asked if there was a problem. I said I was looking for something soft and sweet and this didn't appear to be working out. She said that it was important that I was happy and if I didn't like her, I could get my money back and go for another girl. WHAT? Did she really say that? I was a little afraid she might be about to get hysterical angry with me and I was cautious. I was trying to tell her I thought she was beautiful, and I liked her, but the chemistry in bed did not seem to be working. She agreed and didn't seem to be upset. She said she would give me my money back and I could get another girl, maybe from Carribiean Men's Paradise.
If this girl did not work at La Passions, there is no way in hell there would ever have been a conversation about returning money. The fact that she was accountable to the business owner was worth a lot. She took out 3000 and laid it on the bed and said here. Now when you pay $3500 for takeout at Passions, the girl gets $2500 and the house gets $1000. I gave her back $1000 as I didn't want her to lose money and respected her willingness to return my money. I really so, so respect La Passions for having girls who would do this. That is the kind of accountability and customer service that has customers return.
I gave petite girl a ride to the moto concho stand so she could get a ride home. She gave me a polite, professional goodbye even though she very likely was annoyed herself at the events of the night.
Later in the evening I found "Lady" in Classico's around 3am. She was the best of what was around at that hour. 19, lives in Sosua, 1 child. She has a really nice body though again having a child her breasts are not what they once were. Her performance was lackluster "here I am, do me". I so enjoy when a girl is sexy and energetic versus just laying on her back and waiting for you to come to her. If I could invent a system for chica pricing, the price should be $500DP and then service bonuses of $500-$1500 based on performance, so the cold fish would earn $1000 and the top-performers would earn $2000.
When you just have 1 week in the DR, having top-performers or at least having a provider who is accountable for their quality of service is a very important thing.
Thanks to everyone for reading and thanks to those before me for sharing their stories and knowledge. All the best.
this right here is too funny! hope she wasn't a dime!
[quote=mr gogo]actually there is a good lesson here. she is playing the "i'm a good girl role" but everyone must understand that a "good girl" would not go anywhere near sosua. sosua is about money and sex period, don't get it twisted fellas.
interesting story.
once a wingman and i went to santiago to see my regular(good girl) and her friend. i gave my wingman the prep talk. we are staying in cabarette not sosua. i also told him no matter what don't say sosua.
well were sitting at the table with the family and he asks me what time classicos closes? i ignore him but the girls brother asks him"classicos in sosua"? he said "yeah". when sosua was mentioned everyone stopped eating and looked at me. i continued eating as i felt everyone staring. then my girl asks my boy if we were staying in cabarette. he said yes with me. then she asks what hotel? my boy looked at me as i ate(for help) then said newgarden in cabarette. her brother says newgarden is in sosua. i'm thinking"this motherfucker just killed me" so now i have to throw his dumb ass under the bus. i said i'm in cabarette and he is staying in sosua. we finish eating and my girl says i'm going home with you. i say i'm tired and just want to sleep and rest. needless to say she never called me and i never called her again. as me and my boy drive to classicos i ask"do you remember the gameplan" he gave me the fuck them hoes speech and i let it go.[/quote]
Kyle F.
I am asking you this because you have been to Sosua in the last 2 weeks and you have experience traveling in the area.
According to posts on another site, these has been a major crackdown in Sosua. They say girls girls are being arrested on the street if they are not with an escort. They also report that there is no action in town during the day, and only late at night at the 2 largest discos. They claim the the mayor is trying to get all chicas of the street and it is working.
At first this report seemed beleiveable. Another site (****) had over 200 inquires on this but they closed the thread on this.
Since then I have read several reports from Sosua including yours, which do not mention a crackdown. The guys who seemed to start this are a couple of bitter egotists who seem like like they might start a hoax.
So I ask you, are there any signs of an actual crackdown in Sosua? I know things are slower than they used to be, but that would be far from a crackdown.
[QUOTE=Kyle Fox]Now accountability: This hotel will not get any repeat business from me. That costs them about one week every year or $483/year, and probably $1500 over the next 4 years. This all could have been saved if they would have refunded $4-$5 per day for the lack of Internet service. There was no apology, no I'm sorry, no offer any type of other compensation. Just "sorry, there is a problem and it is not within our control". I gave them an opportunity to be accountable and did not respond. This failure to be accountable is a bad business decision as no doubt this report may cost them several thousand dollars more in lost business. It is a nice hotel, but for someone who depends on reliable Internet service, this is not the place for you.[/QUOTE]
I was in PP from mid August to late September and was staying at my apartment and the internet was ATROCIOUS. It might very well have been just as bad in Sosua. So, do I believe it may have been beyond the control of the hotel in Sosua? Yes. However, do I believe that they should have compensated you for their inability to provide you what you paid for? Absolutely! Then again, this is the DR.
[QUOTE=Kyle Fox]So I'm making out with petite girl and a pattern is developing. I told her in the bar I really like french kissing and she says that is fine with a smile/wink. Well as we kiss, it goes kiss for 2 seconds then she turns her head so I'm at her cheek and neck. Then I reposition face to face to kiss her mouth and the pattern repeats. I cannot get into it. I stop and tell her and she says Ok. She then starts kissing me but very forcefully puts her arm behind my head and pulls my head hard towards hers. This was way to forceful to be enjoyed. I tell her I don't like the arm behind my head. She then kisses me hard with her lips tight, rubbing hard back and forth across the front of my mouth. I'm wondering if she is trying to do what I want or is she exaggerating and trying to hurt/annoy me and saying "Ok, you wanted hard, deep kisses, here you go! " Whatever the hell is was, it was not soft and sweet. What I was looking for.
I stopped, laid on my back and said "I don't feel good". She asked if there was a problem. I said I was looking for something soft and sweet and this didn't appear to be working out. She said that it was important that I was happy and if I didn't like her, I could get my money back and go for another girl. WHAT? Did she really say that? I was a little afraid she might be about to get hysterical angry with me and I was cautious. I was trying to tell her I thought she was beautiful, and I liked her, but the chemistry in bed did not seem to be working. She agreed and didn't seem to be upset. She said she would give me my money back and I could get another girl, maybe from Carribiean Men's Paradise.
If this girl did not work at La Passions, there is no way in hell there would ever have been a conversation about returning money. The fact that she was accountable to the business owner was worth a lot. She took out 3000 and laid it on the bed and said here. Now when you pay $3500 for takeout at Passions, the girl gets $2500 and the house gets $1000. I gave her back $1000 as I didn't want her to lose money and respected her willingness to return my money. I really so, so respect La Passions for having girls who would do this. That is the kind of accountability and customer service that has customers return.
I gave petite girl a ride to the moto concho stand so she could get a ride home. She gave me a polite, professional goodbye even though she very likely was annoyed herself at the events of the night.
Later in the evening I found "Lady" in Classico's around 3am. She was the best of what was around at that hour. 19, lives in Sosua, 1 child. She has a really nice body though again having a child her breasts are not what they once were. Her performance was lackluster "here I am, do me". I so enjoy when a girl is sexy and energetic versus just laying on her back and waiting for you to come to her. If I could invent a system for chica pricing, the price should be $500DP and then service bonuses of $500-$1500 based on performance, so the cold fish would earn $1000 and the top-performers would earn $2000.[/QUOTE]Kyle Fox,
Nice reporting! Yeah that sucks that you had a couple of dead fish. Shit happens in Sosua. I love to french kiss as well and if a female can't oblige to a simple kiss then it's time for her to get the fuck out! Luckily you got your money back cus usually you take the "L" and pay there ass too leave.
Curious were you able to find a true novia that satisfied your needs while in Sosua or were all the broads you dealt with have some issue?
Many thanks, Kyle, for taking the trouble to write such a detailed and literate report.
You have been unusually honest about everything. I must say you don't seem a good fit for Sosúa. You come across as very precise, rational, hygienic and fair-minded. Sosúa is sloppy, irrational, squalid and opportunistic (or worse).
I had to laugh about your reporting the waiter who offered you drinks in the pool. Had that annoyed me it would have lasted about two seconds and I would have forgotten about it two minutes later. You are kind of finely tuned, aren't you? You won't live to my age if you sweat the small stuff.
I am amazed at your story of the Passions chica returning all your money, having already gone that far. I have never heard of such a thing and I think any other guys expecting the same customer service will be in for a disappointment.
By the way, the chicas there are often very reluctant to kiss. Many would accept your dick up their ass but not kiss you on the lips. Partly it is just a hygiene thing but it is also a superstition that they reserve kissing for their "real" boyfriend or partner. Those that will kiss are maybe not in a steady relationship at that time.
Like you I prefer chicas of 22 and under but I wouldn't rely on them having low mileage. Most of them will have been fucking guys in the barrios for a few pesos since they were 14 or earlier. And usually without condoms.
Dominicans and even gringos running businesses in the DR don't do refunds. My landlord, who has lived here for 17 years, bought a brand new grill. First time he used it all the enamel crazed and came loose. When he took it back for a refund they said they couldn't give a refund "because it had been used".
Of course you are right to "punish" Terra Linda by withdrawing your custom and posting a negative report. But understand this. They don't care! They don't think about the money they will lose tomorrow, let alone next year. All they want is for this annoying customer to get the hell out and leave them in peace for the rest of the day.
[b]Accountability (as defined by Miriam-Webster online): an obligation or willingness to accept responsibility or to account for one's actions.[/b]
I live in the DR and love my life here, but if there is one thing which is diametrically opposed to the Dominican mentality it is "accountability" and that applies from the President down to the lowest street-rat. It is not necessarily that they are craftily evading responsibility. They simply do not understand the connection between cause and effect.
A chica I spent a few days with was cooking with her one-year old playing round her feet. The child was splashed with hot oil and suffered (and continues to suffer) great pain. When the police arrested the mother she was baffled as "obviously I didn't mean to do it". It was just bad luck (or God's will for the religious ones).
It was obviously God's will that your internet did not work.
[QUOTE=Bimmy5]Kyle F.
I am asking you this because you have been to Sosua in the last 2 weeks and you have experience traveling in the area.
According to posts on another site, these has been a major crackdown in Sosua. They say girls girls are being arrested on the street if they are not with an escort. They also report that there is no action in town during the day, and only late at night at the 2 largest discos. They claim the the mayor is trying to get all chicas of the street and it is working.
At first this report seemed beleiveable. Another site (****) had over 200 inquires on this but they closed the thread on this.
Since then I have read several reports from Sosua including yours, which do not mention a crackdown. The guys who seemed to start this are a couple of bitter egotists who seem like like they might start a hoax.
So I ask you, are there any signs of an actual crackdown in Sosua? I know things are slower than they used to be, but that would be far from a crackdown.[/QUOTE]
There is definitely a crackdown. Mainly targeting unescorted and undocumented girls which, in the nature of things, includes many haitianas.
Hard to distinguish the effect of this from the usual seasonal downturn and the effects of the economic downturn. Also many "oldtimers" are saying there is general decine in quality since the "good old days". This may be true but is a separate issue and would not be obvious to those who have only been going there within the last four years anyway.
Nothing to stop anyone going with a positive mind and having their usual great time. May need to shift your asses away from the New Garden and the Strip a bit more and explore the surrounding areas, but you will be glad you did afterwards.
Well said sir.
If you are of a positive mind and demeanor you can take a lemon and make lemonade.
The "crackdown" has occurred in the past and it will happen again in the future.
To me its NO IMPORTA because I know how to navigate the island and not just depend on 1 street (Pedro Clisante) to satisfy my carnal desires.
Carpe Diem...
[QUOTE=Charles Pooter]There is definitely a crackdown. Mainly targeting unescorted and undocumented girls which, in the nature of things, includes many haitianas.
Hard to distinguish the effect of this from the usual seasonal downturn and the effects of the economic downturn. Also many "oldtimers" are saying there is general decine in quality since the "good old days". This may be true but is a separate issue and would not be obvious to those who have only been going there within the last four years anyway.
Nothing to stop anyone going with a positive mind and having their usual great time. May need to shift your asses away from the New Garden and the Strip a bit more and explore the surrounding areas, but you will be glad you did afterwards.[/QUOTE]
Great report Kyle.
And I applaud your business model.
NEVER REWARD BAD BEHAVIOR...
Well done.
[QUOTE=Kyle Fox]The theme of this report is Accountability. I was on my 5th trip to Sosua and this was my first visit since spending 8 weeks in Sosua 2 years ago.
Accountability (as defined by Miriam-Webster online): an obligation or willingness to accept responsibility or to account for one's actions.
This is what it is all about.
Hotel Don Andres: Stayed here 3 nights for $40/night. Very basic accomodations but Bert and Henrik are friendly and reliable. They have some nice 2 room apartments that have more space than other places. I returned here because of good reliable service in the past and its chica friendly.
Hotel: Terra Linda: I had very poor or no Internet connection during my 3 days stay here. They are one of the most expensive hotels in the area, yet they did not get this right. I inquired to the front desk multiple times and they kept telling me they would get to it. I believed them at first but after the 2nd day I grew weary of "I'll look into it very soon". I'm a regular internet user who checks email regularly, uses Skype to make calls to the States and likes to do a bunch of surfing. I ended up leaving my hotel to do those things and going to the small internet hole in the wall just up the street. That is totally unsatisfactory compared to paying $69 vs. $40 or $55 I paid at other places with very reliable Internet service. Upon checkout, I asked the clerk on duty to provide me a small refund to compensate the service that was paid for and not provided. He told me that there was a problem with the service and he could not do anything, they would have to call someone. I said I paid for a service for which I didn't receive, and yes this was his problem. He went on with the "well, this is the DR and one can't control these things. " Meanwhile, the unattractive hole in the wall just 40 yards away had reliable Internet service each time I left my comfortable hotel room to use the Internet.
An owner /manager came out of an office right by the front desk and was overhearing my complaining. He asked the clerk directly, "When does this customer check out? " I interjected and said "I'm leaving today". The clerk told him I was in the process of checking out right now and he said "Good" to the clerk and did not address me although I was 4 feet way. This total disrespect was very infuriating. I promised them on the spot I would write a letter which would cause them to lose hundreds of dollars. Here I've kept my promise. Too bad they did not keep theirs.
Now accountability: This hotel will not get any repeat business from me. That costs them about one week every year or $483/year, and probably $1500 over the next 4 years. This all could have been saved if they would have refunded $4-$5 per day for the lack of Internet service. There was no apology, no I'm sorry, no offer any type of other compensation. Just "sorry, there is a problem and it is not within our control". I gave them an opportunity to be accountable and did not respond. This failure to be accountable is a bad business decision as no doubt this report may cost them several thousand dollars more in lost business. It is a nice hotel, but for someone who depends on reliable Internet service, this is not the place for you.
One other annoyance I had was that I was in the middle of a nice romantic swim in the pool with a beautiful chica and a waiter comes up and asks us if we want a drink. WHILE we are swimming. WTF! Never interrupt me when I'm in the pool with my chica.
LA PASSIONS: I have been to this place on each visit I've made to Sosua, usually just to look and once going with a chica onsite. I found the lineup to be much younger and tighter bodies than in previous visits. I took Rhianna out the first night because she gave me just a great vibe while we talked in the bar. She is beautiful and her face reminds me of Halle Berry between her eyes and her mouth. She was a great GFE although in the morning she did not want to french kiss. That was a little disappointing after an otherwise great night. Good eager service, friendly and super adorable. She did perform very well in the morning, just no kissing. She has a great-shaped B-cup breasts that you can't really tell when she has a shirt on. I am still day dreaming about her 3 days after my return. I paid 3500DP for takeout at 10pm, return at 10am. That is a big amount for Sosua, however the roughly $100 is 5 couch dances at my local gentlemen's club. In that respect, it is a great price.
There was another smoking girl at La Passions named Diana. She had a wonderfully flat stomach and legs to die for. She was taken 2 nights I wanted her. I met one guy who got an onsite BJ. He said her service was lackluster and she didn't take her top off so I'm probably better off for not going with her. But I found her body so tight I just loved to sit and watch her in the small outfits. One other good thing about La Passions is they wear skimply clothing and occasionally remove tops and strip down to the G-string. This is great to know what you are going to get ahead of time. Often times at Classico's or Latinos the girl can look good in clothes but fall apart upon disrobing.
CARRIBEAN MEN'S PARADISE. I stopped here which is 2 blocks from La Passions on the side closer to Latinos. It is a good second option with plans similar to La Passions. I thought the lineup was better at La Passions, but some very doable girls here. I was there twice and the worst part was there was not many other guys. While this could be an advantage, I had the feeling that my move to talk to a girl, buy a drink, etc. Was being watched by about 20 pairs of eyes and I didn't light that feeling. I spoke to one girl who said she used to work in La Passions for several years. She was 29, look 25-26. The idea of the mileage on her for several years at La Passions was discouraging and I didn't go with her.
CLASSICO'S, LATINOS, EL FLOW, etc. I spent a good deal of time walking up and down the street of sitting at a table and watching the traffic go by. Having lived here for 8 weeks 2 years ago, I notice a good bit of change. Some bars are now closed and very quiet while El Flow, Rumba and X-Club now exist and have decent crowds. La Rumba is owned by a guy from New York and cater to a more upscale Dominican crowd and I did not see much chica action over there. El Flow seemed to also be mostlly local Dominicans but many of the girls were in play. Latinos dance floor was much quieter than 2 years ago and didn't really get busy until later, about 12am.
I met a pretty Haitian named Joselin at Classicos. She was about 5'6", nice body, large breasts and very pretty smile. I interviewed her and about what she did/didn't do and she said "anything you want. " I took her back to my place and she was a relatively poor performer who gave me "cold fish" service. That is a girl who lies on the bed and expects to lay there and you do them. I had directly told her that french kissing was very important to me and she said no problem. Well here she said she didn't like to do that. In my mind I picked her up and threw her out on the street. I hate when chicas do this.
Here's a case where a chica who could earn repeat business and get a good tip if she offered good service. She lost out. 2 nights later I saw her again at Latinos. She came up to me and smiled and said "let's go". I said sorry, you did not french kiss the way I wanted last time. She said she would this time. I said that is no good, you have to be accountable for your actions last time and you were not trustworthy. Her face/body was an 8, but her service was a 4.[/QUOTE]
I wanted to get report or some feedback on el colibiri. I have my trip planned for this upcoming January with a group of friends. I wanted to know how far away from the strip is this hotel and if it would be problems when bringing the ladies back. I previously stayed at the casa marina before for my 1st trip and now where trying to step it up a little. The group consists of 4-7 people and we wanted to have an apartment style hotel. Any recomendations will help. Any villa/condo thats in walking distance of the strip would be good if not any hotel with apartments of suites close to the strip.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Bimmy5]Kyle F.
I am asking you this because you have been to Sosua in the last 2 weeks and you have experience traveling in the area.
According to posts on another site, these has been a major crackdown in Sosua. They say girls girls are being arrested on the street if they are not with an escort. They also report that there is no action in town during the day, and only late at night at the 2 largest discos. They claim the the mayor is trying to get all chicas of the street and it is working.
At first this report seemed beleiveable. Another site (****) had over 200 inquires on this but they closed the thread on this.
Since then I have read several reports from Sosua including yours, which do not mention a crackdown. The guys who seemed to start this are a couple of bitter egotists who seem like like they might start a hoax.
So I ask you, are there any signs of an actual crackdown in Sosua? I know things are slower than they used to be, but that would be far from a crackdown.[/QUOTE]I was in Sosua and Santo Domingo recently and yes, there's a clean up going on. Sosua still had ladies, specially at night but they were afraid of being picked up and the area in El Conde (SD) had very little action. No, it's not a hoax!
If you can read Spanish, this will tell you what's going on:
Directly from Politur website:
Fecha de publicación: 27/09/2010 8:56:49
POLITUR, FISCALIA Y POLICIA NALCIONAL ENCABEZAN OPERATIVOS EN ZONAS DE RECREACION TURISTICA.
La Dirección General de la Policía de Turismo (POLITUR), en coordinación con la Fiscalía del Distrito y la Policía Nacional, realizó un gran operativo en las zonas del Malecón, Parque Independencia, Zona Colonial, Av. Sarasota, entre otros puntos, donde fueron detenidas decenas de personas, dentro de ellas mujeres que se dedican a la prostitución en los entornos de los complejos turísticos, situación denunciada por diferentes sectores afectados.
El gran despliegue de estos operativos coordinados encabezados por POLITUR y que contó con casi un centenar de miembros y diecisiete fiscales, se realizó luego de una reunión que sostuviera la Asociación de Hoteles de Santo Domingo, con varias autoridades encabezada por Ministro de Turismo, Lic. FRANCISCO JAVIER GARCIA donde se trataron varios temas, como la electrificación del Malecón, reforzamiento de la seguridad en la zona, relanzamiento de Ciudad Colonial, entre otros.
Durante el operativo fueron halladas decenas de armas blancas y otros objetos cortantes, así como también la sustancia denominada “plomerito ó acido del diablo”, que portaban muchas de las mujeres detenidas.
El Mayor General PEDRO ANTONIO CACERES CHESTARO, E.N., (DEM), Director de POLITUR, manifestó que estos operativos se mantendrán permanentemente no solo en esta zona turística de la capital, sino que nuestro supervisores tienen las instrucciones para que se realicen en todos los polos turísticos del país donde POLITUR tiene presencia, porque nuestra misión es precisamente mantener y mejorar el clima de paz, tranquilidad y sosiego que viven estas zonas de recreación y descanso escogidas por nuestros visitantes.
Ok, I am in Sosua right now. I did see police/army? Last night at the main intersection of Clisante and Rosen, but I didn't see any effect on the girls. In fact, I wish they would crack down a little just so I can walk down the street in peace, at least during daylight hours. This place is nothing but an open brothel. It is my first time here so here is my report in a nutshell.
Go in any bar on the main street you see local women sitting alone and assume they are working. It is not complicated. The major places, Classicos etc, have more. You will not be allowed to sit alone long. I usually tell them right away, in Spanish, go away and leave me alone, unless I am interested. I'd say 80% of them I would pay *not* to touch me. The other 20% are excellent depending what you are into. I have found 2000 to be the typical price but I don't bargain too hard if I like the girl. Then I finally found Passions which is way down the other end of Clisante. I was told the girls will leave you alone unless you call them. This is not true but they are much easier to deal with, and more importantly, much hotter. The 'menu' of services gives you prices up front and you have some nice rooms and they are expanding. Plus from my experience and others says level of service much higher. There are some other clubs as mentioned nearby but I didn't try them because there were so many I liked in Passions.
Fwiw, I always walked to and from Passions even though parts are very seedy. It is a long walk. If you are not used to this just take the mototaxi who are almost as annoying as the street girls.
There are some really good people here but this place has seem much better days.
[QUOTE=Rebel Monger]...I was in Sosua and Santo Domingo recently and yes, there's a clean up going on. Sosua still had ladies, specially at night but they were afraid of being picked up and the area in El Conde (SD) had very little action. No, it's not a hoax![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bimmy5]Kyle F.
I am asking you this because you have been to Sosua in the last 2 weeks and you have experience traveling in the area.
According to posts on another site, these has been a major crackdown in Sosua. They say girls girls are being arrested on the street if they are not with an escort. They also report that there is no action in town during the day, and only late at night at the 2 largest discos. They claim the the mayor is trying to get all chicas of the street and it is working.
At first this report seemed beleiveable. Another site (****) had over 200 inquires on this but they closed the thread on this.
Since then I have read several reports from Sosua including yours, which do not mention a crackdown. The guys who seemed to start this are a couple of bitter egotists who seem like like they might start a hoax.
So I ask you, are there any signs of an actual crackdown in Sosua? I know things are slower than they used to be, but that would be far from a crackdown.[/QUOTE]
I was in SDQ this past weekend for 5 days and did not see one chica on the Malecon nor on Independencia. Ran into one chica, cute little spinner named Alexandra, outside the restaurant next door to the Mystik Hotel but when we came out of the Girl's House twenty minutes later she was gone. She went down to the casino and not a minute too soon as the Police pulled up at the exact spot where she had been hanging.
I had been in Sosua the first week in September and the Politur was randomly cracking down on chicas without cedulas, walking alone and Haitianas at that time. At that time, 600P got them out. I've been told it has gotten worse and they aren't letting them out til the next morning. There were still plenty of chicas but as usual this time of year, the selection was not what it will be in late November, December and January.
[QUOTE=Kyle Fox]She was a great GFE although in the morning she did not want to french kiss.[/QUOTE]I am the same damn way when a chick tries to kiss me in the morning. Hell our breath has been marinating all night into a hellified dragon. The last thing I want to do with a girl in the morning is kiss her in the mouth. Not even if we just brushed our teeth. You need to give it to at least noon for the funk to settle back down. Chill dude and forget that morning kissing shit. That's nasty!
Hell man, when I got a massage from Rihanna she wouldn't french kiss me :( A lot of the other girls did.
Originally Posted by Kyle Fox
She was a great GFE although in the morning she did not want to french kiss.
What's the situation with chicas friendly hotels with girls "on site" in Sosua?
[QUOTE=Philippe22]What's the situation with chicas friendly hotels with girls "on site" in Sosua?[/QUOTE]New Garden has a steady stock on site, and many others are just a short walk away.
They all want to be your steady 'novia' for during your stay.
Are there any sorts of newspapers or magazines in Sosua or POP that will have classifieds for girls?
I'm arriving to Cabarete next week.
For the Spirit Air Specialist, I have a great deal on car service with Santiago pick up to drop off in Sosua or Puerta Plata. PM me for more details.
[QUOTE=Jargrophob]Are there any sorts of newspapers or magazines in Sosua or POP that will have classifieds for girls? I'm arriving to Cabarete next week.[/QUOTE]
No. That's not how the trade works on the North Coast.
Why would you want to look at a brief and probably misleading newpaper entry when you can walk out of your door and choose "in the flesh"?
Remember that most of the DR population is illiterate (consistently rated worst educated population in Latin America in survey after survey) and, judging by many posts on w h o r e boards like this one, a lot of mongers are hardly better. Of course there are newspapers, but you rarely see anyone reading one except in barbershops or dentists (etc) waiting rooms.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]I am the same damn way when a chick tries to kiss me in the morning. Hell our breath has been marinating all night into a hellified dragon. The last thing I want to do with a girl in the morning is kiss her in the mouth. Not even if we just brushed our teeth. You need to give it to at least noon for the funk to settle back down. Chill dude and forget that morning kissing shit. That's nasty![/QUOTE]
You know, they make mouthwash for that.
Yeah, sorry for the late check in, but my last two days in the DR turned around completely when I met an expat living in Cabarete. This guy has more regular girls then you can count on two hands, and he was nice enough to show me around to the nicer areas outside of Sosua and to introduce me to some of his girlfriends' friends. Changed my take on DR completely. I am now seeing one of his girlfriends' roommate.
Frankly, I have nothing against Sosua as a resort if I were to stick close to the beach area. There is a casino, plenty of decent restaurants and bars, and a beautiful beach. However, if judging by what others have said about regular girls and their reactions to Sosua, for my return trip, I would like to have a hotel recommendation for Cabarete. All I need is something on par with the Sea Breeze but not in Sosua. So far I have not found anything comparable except for Hotel Kaoba which averages $64/night on Expedia. Any other suggestions?
Can anyone tell me if Los Balcones Condos in Sousa chica friendly?
[QUOTE=Geeberish]............, for my return trip, I would like to have a hotel recommendation for Cabarete............ Any other suggestions?[/QUOTE][url]http://www.activecabarete.com/[/url]
[QUOTE=Geeberish]Any other suggestions?[/QUOTE]Most likely not what you are looking for but I spent four days with a chica at the Kite Beach Hotel. I rented the one bedroom condo for $95/night and it was real nice and they did not mind if I had a young woman with me. There is a bar/restaurant in the condo complex by the beach. I liked it but the chica thought it was kind of boring because she wanted casinos and discos every night.
If you want a nice condo and are into or might want to try wind surfing I would recommend this place as a great place to kick back and relax. It is about 1/2 mile from downtown Cabarete so that might also be a problem.
[url]http://kitebeachhotel.com/prices.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Malikh12]Can anyone tell me if Los Balcones Condos in Sousa chica friendly?[/QUOTE]These are individul private owned appartments, but there is some common regulations. There are restrictions, but I think you will be able to bring in a girl with valid id.
[QUOTE=Bq Ribs][url]http://www.activecabarete.com/[/url][/QUOTE]Thanks for the link. This is a really useful site because it has more variety under the accommodation tab than at most US travel sites which contains mostly tourist hotels. This is great. Thanks again.
Thanks Vagabond, I'll let everyone know if it's chica friendly or not.
I am going to DR first time and like to know which city will be the best option for fun and all nighters.
1. Puerto plata
2. Punto cana
3. Sousa
4. S domingo
Or any recomendation. Usually how much is for all nighter in dollars. Is it mostly dark or tan skin ladies or white also.
Thanks
Anyone in the Sosua/Puerto Plata/ Cabarette area that knows personally a good dentist? I need a cleaning, filling, and info on how the whitening treatment works. Also pricing would be helpfull.
My regular dentist here in Florida is three months out for an appointment.
The new office had a special but you have to get exams and xrays as a new patient. Then after the exam and xray they will give you pricing then a cleaning. How can you do an exam if my teeth havent been cleaned?
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]Anyone in the Sosua/Puerto Plata/ Cabarette area that knows personally a good dentist? I need a cleaning, filling, and info on how the whitening treatment works. Also pricing would be helpfull.
My regular dentist here in Florida is three months out for an appointment.
The new office had a special but you have to get exams and xrays as a new patient. Then after the exam and xray they will give you pricing then a cleaning. How can you do an exam if my teeth havent been cleaned?[/QUOTE]
I always use Dr Fredy E Lepe and have no complaints. He always says "If my work was unsatisfactory, come back and I will redo it for free." I am not sure if we should consider that as a recommendation or not, but I have never needed to take him up on the offer. It is certainly a most un-Dominican attitude. (My landlord bought a new top-of-the-range gas grill. Started to use it that evening and the top enamel shattered to pieces. Took it back next morning for a refund. Shop told him "That happened because it got hot. We cannot replace it because it has been used." Now that [u]is[/u] a most Dominican attitude.
Maybe the answer there lies in Dr Lepe being Peruvian and not Dominican. He trained, so I understand, in Peru and the US. He speaks good English.
What I like about him: he has a painless drill and his prices are reasonable.
What I don't like about him: he plays sloppy romantic Spanish "elevator music" while he is working and, even worse, sings along with it out of key.
He works in a practice with four other dentists, some of them specialists in particular fields. Whenever I ask for an appointment it always turns out to be for a Tuesday. Maybe that is the only day he works. Or maybe he likes to clear up the fussy gringos first thing in the week (the whole place is closed Mondays) so he can relax for the rest of the week.
Worth having your teeth cleaned just to ogle three of the surgery assistants there.
Calle Duarte no.75 (corner with Villenueve), Puerto Plata.
Calle Duarte is one-way down to Parque Central and he is near the top end (Eastern end) so you cannot drive "upstream" from Parque Central.
[email]fredylepe@hotmail.com[/email]
809 586 6666
Before you take me up on my recommendation I should warn you I am English. Apparently we have the lowest standards in the galaxy when it comes to tooth care (although I was unaware of this until I moved to the DR and started mixing with North Americans big time) so you may give my recommendation reduced weight.
[quote=love bite]i am going to dr first time and like to know which city will be the best option for fun and all nighters.
1. puerto plata
2. punto cana
3. sousa
4. s domingo
or any recomendation. usually how much is for all nighter in dollars. is it mostly dark or tan skin ladies or white also.
thanks[/quote]no disrespect but please rtff! the forefathers have answered these types of questions a million times in just this year alone. no one can really give you a definite answer on what place you should start at cus it all depends on your style. you want "the no worries and have everything at your feet atmosphere" then bb is the place. do you want to hit the strip club crystals and have 30 females [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] you as soon as you walk thru the door then tune in to puerto plata forum for more details.
are you an alpha male that can with stand aggressive females ready to conquer you mentally, physically and more importantly your wallet. they have the potential to make your toes curl and cause havoc breaking your shit all at the same time. or how about the constant begging from the natives, can you stay firm and say no or become a sucker. if your a hustler and don't mind the hustle then sosua is for u
santo domingo forum is blazing right now with wealth of knowledge. no doubt if you choose sd as your destination itll be smooth sailing cus the knowledge is up to date and accurate.
as far as the pricing goes for female to be honest there's no real set pricing. if your a "gringo that speak no spanish" then your going to pay more. if you're an o. g. like mr. gogo that's been to dr multiple times and knows the game and spanish your paying way less. if you live in dr like sir charles your paying them next to nothing. and when you can tell the difference between a gazelle and a tigre a mile away like helpmann you'll pay them in bikini outfits instead of pesos
as far as what the females look like tune in to mr. gogo in dr forum and check out the video mr. gogo himself posted of all that heavenly glory that dr has to offer.
Thanks Sir Charles
[QUOTE=Love Bite]I am going to DR first time and like to know which city will be the best option for fun and all nighters.
1. Puerto plata
2. Punto cana
3. Sousa
4. S domingo
Or any recomendation. Usually how much is for all nighter in dollars. Is it mostly dark or tan skin ladies or white also.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Sousa has my vote. I paid $55-$75 (2000-2500 pesos) for all nighters, la passion chicas $97 (3500 pesos). Most of my ladies were dark to tan skinned.
Take the time an read the boards. All important subjects have been discussed. Then come back with specific questions.
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]Anyone in the Sosua/Puerto Plata/ Cabarette area that knows personally a good dentist? I need a cleaning, filling, and info on how the whitening treatment works. Also pricing would be helpfull.
My regular dentist here in Florida is three months out for an appointment.
The new office had a special but you have to get exams and xrays as a new patient. Then after the exam and xray they will give you pricing then a cleaning. How can you do an exam if my teeth havent been cleaned?[/QUOTE]
I have always used Dra Yunesca Tavares, whose office is right opposite the Messon supermarket in the center of Puerto Plata, next door to the Jimenez clothing store. She speaks a bit of English. Is listed in the DR telephone directory under Dra Daysi Ortiz. Very charming lady. Definitely recommended.
[QUOTE=Love Bite]I am going to DR first time and like to know which city will be the best option for fun and all nighters.
1. Puerto plata
2. Punto cana
3. Sousa
4. S domingo
Or any recomendation. Usually how much is for all nighter in dollars. Is it mostly dark or tan skin ladies or white also.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Sosua. $60. Dark.
[QUOTE=Frannie]Sosúa. $60. Dark.[/QUOTE]
--- Sosúa for sure until you build up your knowledge.
--- $40 to $60
--- from coffee to dark chocolate. White chicas are very rare there and either lacking in some department or command a big premium.
[QUOTE=Frannie]I have always used Dra Yunesca Tavares, whose office is right opposite the Messon supermarket in the center of Puerto Plata, next door to the Jimenez clothing store. She speaks a bit of English. Is listed in the DR telephone directory under Dra Daysi Ortiz. Very charming lady. Definitely recommended.[/QUOTE]Made an appointment with Dr. Lepe already but thanks.
[QUOTE=Frannie]I have always used Dra Yunesca Tavares, whose office is right opposite the Messon supermarket in the center of Puerto Plata, next door to the Jimenez clothing store. She speaks a bit of English. Is listed in the DR telephone directory under Dra Daysi Ortiz. Very charming lady. Definitely recommended.[/QUOTE]
Messon supermarket closed three years ago once La Sirena arrived so I hope this lady is still around these days. If so, a useful recommendation. There are three Tienda Jiménez stores in Puerto Plata, Frannie means the main one (not the one next to Caribe Tours).
Hi,
Does anyone have a list of massage parlors with happy endings?
I know Passions does the massage/soapy thing but do others?
Thanks,
Kaiju
[QUOTE=Frannie]I have always used Dra Yunesca Tavares, whose office is right opposite the Messon supermarket in the center of Puerto Plata, next door to the Jimenez clothing store. She speaks a bit of English. Is listed in the DR telephone directory under Dra Daysi Ortiz. Very charming lady. Definitely recommended.[/QUOTE]Made an appointment with Dr. Lepe already but thanks.
[QUOTE=Coolie High]If you live in DR like Sir Charles your paying them next to nothing.[/QUOTE]
I wish! But you're right. When one has fuck all to do all day except ogle at chicas, and an ever diminishing sex-drive makes making a decision a lot less urgent than it used to be, one can wait for a bargain to fall into your groin.
Good post, by the way, CH. The OP's level of Spanish is the vital missing data. "Nil" or "Beginners", it has got to be Blackbeards or Sosúa now Field of Dreams is no longer an option (pause here to weep a tear). Decent Spanish and Santo Domingo or Santiago (or anywhere else for that matter) spread wide their metaphorical legs to welcome him.
[quote=kaiju]hi,
does anyone have a list of massage parlors with happy endings?
i know passions does the massage/soapy thing but do others?
[/quote]
basically any arrangement for sexual services between you and a massage therapist is a personal arrangement between the two of you.
as businesses they don't advertise happy endings because they are not licensed as brothels.
however money always talks and in reality you can get a happy ending from pretty much any massage therapist as long as she knows you will be discreet about it.
but i would just let it happen spontaneously if it happens. in general i would rather get a good massage and then find someone else for the sex than get a lousy massage which is a thin pretext for a handjob. sometimes you just get lucky and it all comes together. there is a cute haitian-dominican girl in sosua from whom i have had several massages and a few fucks--all good.
[QUOTE=Love Bite]I am going to DR first time and like to know which city will be the best option for fun and all nighters.
1. Puerto plata
2. Punto cana
3. Sousa
4. S domingo
Or any recomendation. Usually how much is for all nighter in dollars. Is it mostly dark or tan skin ladies or white also.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Choice of destination often depends on what airport you may want to fly into. Many guys from Europe get good rates on Charter flights to Punta Cana.
Punta Cana is mostly large all inclusive hotels. Prices for chicas tend to be higher in Punta Cana. Punta Cana and Bavaro are adjacent to one another. Very nice beaches in Bavaro. Punta Cana/Bavaro venues are spread out, you will need to take taxis or motorcycle taxis to get around, unless you choose a hotel that is close to where the p4p chicas hang out. Airport code for punta cana airport is PUJ.
Santo Domingo is a large busy city with no beach. There is a crackdown on street prostitution going on now in Santo Domingo. Price for street chicas used to start around 1, 000 pesos (US $27) for short time. Bargains can always be found in Santo Domingo. Airport code is SDQ. More flights and generally less expensive to fly into Santo Domingo.
Puerto Plata city has two strip type clubs, Bohem and Crystal with takeout prices for chicas of over $100US. Ten minutes from Puerto Plata Airport (POP) is the small beach town of Sosua. There are now 2 in-house places with chicas in Sosua, CMP and Passions. Sosua is mostly a town with freelance chcias. You go to the bars at night and look around for an attractive chica, call her over, discuss price and if there is a meeting of the minds on price and service, away you go. You can negotiate for short term or all night. Prices always vary, as does service.
Blackbeards I guess is about 45 minutes from Puerto Plata airport. Blackbeards has chicas on site, the prices are set for short term and all night.
Many guys on this board have previously posted, usually best to take a chica for short term, before you commit to an all nighter. Some sexy looking chicas can be duds in bed.
[QUOTE=Jaosousa]Choice of destination often depends on what airport you may want to fly into. Many guys from Europe get good rates on Charter flights to Punta Cana.
Punta Cana is mostly large all inclusive hotels. Prices for chicas tend to be higher in Punta Cana. Punta Cana and Bavaro are adjacent to one another. Very nice beaches in Bavaro. Punta Cana/Bavaro venues are spread out, you will need to take taxis or motorcycle taxis to get around, unless you choose a hotel that is close to where the p4p chicas hang out. Airport code for punta cana airport is PUJ.
Santo Domingo is a large busy city with no beach. There is a crackdown on street prostitution going on now in Santo Domingo. Price for street chicas used to start around 1, 000 pesos (US $27) for short time. Bargains can always be found in Santo Domingo. Airport code is SDQ. More flights and generally less expensive to fly into Santo Domingo.
Puerto Plata city has two strip type clubs, Bohem and Crystal with takeout prices for chicas of over $100US. Ten minutes from Puerto Plata Airport (POP) is the small beach town of Sosua. There are now 2 in-house places with chicas in Sosua, CMP and Passions. Sosua is mostly a town with freelance chcias. You go to the bars at night and look around for an attractive chica, call her over, discuss price and if there is a meeting of the minds on price and service, away you go. You can negotiate for short term or all night. Prices always vary, as does service.
Blackbeards I guess is about 45 minutes from Puerto Plata airport. Blackbeards has chicas on site, the prices are set for short term and all night.
Many guys on this board have previously posted, usually best to take a chica for short term, before you commit to an all nighter. Some sexy looking chicas can be duds in bed.[/QUOTE]
I liked how you said that $27 is the going rate, and that bargains can always be found. With the prices we pay for similar service in the States, and other mongering locations (TJ, SXM, CUR), $27 "is" a bargain. There are strip clubs near me where you can't get a 4 minute couch dance for 27.
Nice report!
Thanks Jaosousa. You explained it really nice. I think I will stick with puerto plata or suosa. Because I am looking for free lancer and all nighters.
Take care
[QUOTE=Love Bite]Thanks Jaosousa. You explained it really nice. I think I will stick with puerto plata or suosa. Because I am looking for free lancer and all nighters.
Take care[/QUOTE]Sosua is very easy, you will have fun.
There are some fine chicas in Crystals in Puerto Plata, but with prices over $100.
Sosua has a mix of chicas, light skin to dark skin, Dominican and Haitian chicas.
Passions Massage in Sosua has a webage with photos of their chicas, if you are curious.
Most of the chicas are not thieves. There are always a few nutty chicas and always a few thieves in every bunch, so guard your valuables (leave unnecessary valuables at home).
Just about everything in Sosua is within a 5-10 minute walk. There are supermarkets and liquor stores.
[QUOTE=Ath Trainer]I liked how you said that $27 is the going rate, and that bargains can always be found. With the prices we pay for similar service in the States, and other mongering locations (Tijuana, SXM, CUR), $27 "is" a bargain. There are strip clubs near me where you can't get a 4 minute couch dance for 27.
Nice report![/QUOTE]GBP is a small bar with rooms and about 7 chicas in Santo Domingo. The chicas are light skin and morenas. GBP has a two chica special for 1500 pesos, which is about (US $20. 83) per chica.
[QUOTE=Love Bite]Thanks Jaosousa. You explained it really nice. I think I will stick with puerto plata or suosa. Because I am looking for free lancer and all nighters.
Take care[/QUOTE]By reading some of the older posts you can get the feel of the various places and make your decision based on that. We all have our own favorites and see them from our viewpoint.
[QUOTE=Jaosousa]GBP is a small bar with rooms and about 7 chicas in Santo Domingo. The chicas are light skin and morenas. GBP has a two chica special for 1500 pesos, which is about (US $20. 83) per chica.[/QUOTE]
Can you say "supersize me" in Spanish?
Were exactly is GDP was unable to located on Greater Santo Domingo mongering Map google.
Thanks
Were is GDP. I was unable to find it on Santo Domingo. Greater map
Please help
[QUOTE=Lovebrazil02]Were is GDP. I was unable to find it on Santo Domingo. Greater map
Please help[/QUOTE]
GBP is on the map. GBP is listed as Gimnasio Bar Privado.
[QUOTE=Lovebrazil02]Were exactly is GDP was unable to located on Greater Santo Domingo mongering Map google.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
If you have any more questions about Santo Domingo you can post them in the Santo Domingo forum.
I was hitting this girl in Sosua over 3 years ago. I think she told me she was 20 years old and in medical school at the time when I met her in front of Classico (I think she was there for her Human Anatomy class or something. Hehehe!) A guy who I know from the barber shop at home who I accidentally ran into in Sosua was coincidentally boning her sister (who now she admits is actually her cousin) as well. She talked about how she wanted to get married and have a family. Being the player that I am, of course I was not with that. Well a couple of years ago she found some guy from Canada to knock her up and marry her. I just added her to my facebook over 3 years later and for her birthday it says 1990....
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]I was hitting this girl in Sosua over 3 years ago. I think she told me she was 20 years old and in medical school at the time when I met her in front of Classico (I think she was there for her Human Anatomy class or something. Hehehe!) A guy who I know from the barber shop at home who I accidentally ran into in Sosua was coincidentally boning her sister (who now she admits is actually her cousin) as well. She talked about how she wanted to get married and have a family. Being the player that I am, of course I was not with that. Well a couple of years ago she found some guy from Canada to knock her up and marry her. I just added her to my facebook over 3 years later and for her birthday it says 1990....[/QUOTE]Nice so by my calculations she was really 17yrs old when you met her and shes now 20 lol! Curious so when you smashed was it technically legal in DR? In majority of the states if a female is 17yrs old shes fair game.
[QUOTE=Coolie High]Nice so by my calculations she was really 17yrs old when you met her and shes now 20 lol! Curious so when you smashed was it technically legal in DR? In majority of the states if a female is 17yrs old shes fair game.[/QUOTE]I have no idea. It's just that I can now understand why some people insist on seeing id. Actually she never accepted any money from me so as far as from a legality standpoint I'm not sure how it works. When I met her in front of Classico and tried to bargain with her she said that she really did not know how much to tell me because she had not done it before. So of course I bargained for the normal 1000 but when the next morning came and I tried to give her the 1000 she would not accept it and said she was serious about never having done it before and she didn't feel comfortable accepting money from me. I would call her several trips after and she would come to Sosua to meet me. The only time she ever wanted money was when that bad storm came through the DR. She called me and said that if I could send her anything at all then she would appreciate it because all of their things were destroyed. When she got with that Canadian guy she told me that she was really serious about when she kept telling me she just wanted to start a family. She was a definite 10, however better him than me.
.....for the first time in a while. based upon the reports i've been reading lately i expected it to be a ghost town, as i've seen so often in the past. i was surprised to see so many chicas out and about. the downside was that i saw far too many **** girls walking around. did i ask for id? no. considering how young so many of them looked, i wouldn't think once about approaching them. i hope you guys, particularly newbies, are really careful when you're out there.
[quote=twice divorced].....for the first time in a while. based upon the reports i've been reading lately i expected it to be a ghost town, as i've seen so often in the past. i was surprised to see so many chicas out and about. the downside was that i saw far too many **** girls walking around. did i ask for id? no. considering how young so many of them looked, i wouldn't think once about approaching them. i hope you guys, particularly newbies, are really careful when you're out there.[/quote]
the politur and the policia national are trying to flex their muscles a little by pinching girls with no cedulas, girls walking by themselves and haitians with no visa.. i dont know why you would think it would be a ghost town. besides that, its hasn't changed one iota and its business as usual. the chicks and the cedula scenarios are quite easy, no cedula, no play period. these girls might even go as far as to try to set you up. i don't mind hotels logging in cedulas because i kind of consider it additional security for both trick and john. can you imagine trying to buy your way out if that nightmare all the while sitting in a dominican jail??? safe mongering people!
mhl, i have done approx. 60 trips during the past 6 years or so and, although i started out in sosua, i spend most of my time in pp. i stop in sosua every 3-4 months just to see what's happening. there are times i've stopped through and, yes, there were very few chicas (and mongers) out and about at times. considering the recent reports about the crackdown i assumed things would be slow, but found it busier than i anticipated it would be.
one thing that bothered me was the number of evident **** girls. far more than i have ever noticed in the past years. imo, anyone who gets caught out with them are probably looking for them to begin with. for those who aren't, be extremely careful. i wonder if they're out there on their own or as part of a setup.
i can just hear the forks drop and *clink*clink*clink*as they hit the plates while the needle scratches across the top of the record and the music comes to a crashing halt. LOL
[QUOTE=Blackceo88]This right here is too funny! Hope she wasn't a dime![/QUOTE]
This is equally hilarious.
LOL
[QUOTE=Charles Pooter]Many thanks, Kyle, for taking the trouble to write such a detailed and literate report.
You have been unusually honest about everything. I must say you don't seem a good fit for Sosúa. You come across as very precise, rational, hygienic and fair-minded. Sosúa is sloppy, irrational, squalid and opportunistic (or worse).
I had to laugh about your reporting the waiter who offered you drinks in the pool. Had that annoyed me it would have lasted about two seconds and I would have forgotten about it two minutes later. You are kind of finely tuned, aren't you? You won't live to my age if you sweat the small stuff.
I am amazed at your story of the Passions chica returning all your money, having already gone that far. I have never heard of such a thing and I think any other guys expecting the same customer service will be in for a disappointment.
By the way, the chicas there are often very reluctant to kiss. Many would accept your dick up their ass but not kiss you on the lips. Partly it is just a hygiene thing but it is also a superstition that they reserve kissing for their "real" boyfriend or partner. Those that will kiss are maybe not in a steady relationship at that time.
Like you I prefer chicas of 22 and under but I wouldn't rely on them having low mileage. Most of them will have been fucking guys in the barrios for a few pesos since they were 14 or earlier. And usually without condoms.
Dominicans and even gringos running businesses in the DR don't do refunds. My landlord, who has lived here for 17 years, bought a brand new grill. First time he used it all the enamel crazed and came loose. When he took it back for a refund they said they couldn't give a refund "because it had been used".
Of course you are right to "punish" Terra Linda by withdrawing your custom and posting a negative report. But understand this. They don't care! They don't think about the money they will lose tomorrow, let alone next year. All they want is for this annoying customer to get the hell out and leave them in peace for the rest of the day.
[b]Accountability (as defined by Miriam-Webster online): an obligation or willingness to accept responsibility or to account for one's actions.[/b]
I live in the DR and love my life here, but if there is one thing which is diametrically opposed to the Dominican mentality it is "accountability" and that applies from the President down to the lowest street-rat. It is not necessarily that they are craftily evading responsibility. They simply do not understand the connection between cause and effect.
A chica I spent a few days with was cooking with her one-year old playing round her feet. The child was splashed with hot oil and suffered (and continues to suffer) great pain. When the police arrested the mother she was baffled as "obviously I didn't mean to do it". It was just bad luck (or God's will for the religious ones).
It was obviously God's will that your internet did not work.[/QUOTE]
I just read an email that had a link to pictures of the new and improved Passions. I usually don't spend too much time in Passions because I enjoy the hunt, but I always have to make at least one trip there.
Anyway the question is did the renovations drive the price? Anybody know?
Thanks fellas. I plan on being there in a couple of weeks.
I was at Passions last week.
The new Passions still had the same menu and pricing at that time.
The renovation is a great improvement, the rooms were clean and cozy.
I did like the old Passions. But the new Passions did impress me.
My only fault with the new Passions is that it may be a little too big city like for
This little town. A fair deal if the price does not change.
Lots of cuties working.
I just got a reply from Terra Linda to an e-mail request by me checking availability of a room with double occupancy and was quoted a price of $99. a night. Are they on crack or something??? I can rent a three bedroom villa and have my own pool and jacuzzi for $20. a night more for chrissakes.
Just returned from two weeks in Sosua. Some general observations.
Oppresive heat with high humidity, Occasional rain shower, mostly during the night.
Stayed at Casa Marina which is undergoing major renovation. No air conditioning during the day. In the parking lot the locals are trucking out the old t.vs and mattresses as fast as they can load them. My regular left me at the bar for a few minutes. She came back smiling and told me I'd just bought her a decent flat t.v. for 2,000 pesos. I asked how the hell she'd get it home to the other end of the D.R.(10 hours and two buses and a taxi away).
No problem, she had called our regular motoconcho guy to the hotel and got him and a buddy to take it to Choramicos where she has family, and it was there already. She'll bus it home when I leave. All in 20 minutes or so. Gotta love this girl!
Never saw many cops there before, but now the're everywhere.
So, not as many chicas around, but still enough for anyone, with some real young knockouts. I saw more 10's on this trip than I've seen before down there. It was quieter than usual around N.G. and Terra Linda, quiet around town during the day, with the bars only filling up at the weekends.
First night at the bar a newbie got cornered by the resident/leech/stalker/drama queen and seemed to be enjoying the attention. When they passed our table, she stopped to say hello, because we know most of the locals and it doesn't hurt to say hello after you've seen tham a hundered times. He asked if they could join us, and we said sure. He told me he'd just arrived and was enjoying the scene. Said he'd travelled extensively and done a lot of research before choosing Sosua. I wasn't sure, judging by the hand holding already, but what the hey! I wasn't abouit to tell this particular guy how to spend his time and his money.
Eventually, we moved on to the next bar (with them in tow) and after a while they got into a big argument. She made the cutthroat sign and stormed off. I asked what's wrong. He was really pissed. Turns out he got insulted because she asked him for money for milk for bambina. Really! He'd picked the ***** of *****s (or she picked him) and he was surprised she asked him for money? What the hell did he think all this hand holding and kissing shit an hour off the plane was all about?
He said that was enough for him that night and went back to the hotel (Casa Marina). Tried to give him a pep talk but he said he thought the chica was our friend so she'd be OK. Damn! it was almost like he was accusing us of setting him up.
Next morning at breakfast he had another tale of woe, seems he went out for coffee early and got into a tugging match with chica who tried to lift his wallet, coffee thrown, pants pocket torn. He said he had had enough of Sosua and wasn't leaving the hotel.
Optimistic me says, look at all the beautiful chicas they're all out there for you and they aren't all bad. He did go out once more and got ripped off for forty dollars, Didn't ask him how, because it was becoming obvious.
His problem was that he acted like he knew it all and wasn't about to take advice from anybody. Never before have I ever seen that combination of cockiness on the one hand and on the other not having a clue as to what is really going on around him. Naive is hardly the word, but the guy was clearly out of his depth, and I did feel a little sorry for him.
He stuck around the hotel for the rest of the week waiting to home.
Wonder where he's "reearching" now?
He obviously missed this board, but if he finds it and reads this, Hi Jerry!
[QUOTE=Oakie]First night at the bar a newbie got cornered by the resident/leech/stalker/drama queen and seemed to be enjoying the attention. Said he'd travelled extensively and done a lot of research before choosing Sosua. I wasn't sure, judging by the hand holding already, but what the hey! I wasn't abouit to tell this particular guy how to spend his time and his money.[/QUOTE]You should have told him that Alabama and Florida don't count as extensive travel. I guess he eventually found that out the hard way though huh.
[QUOTE=Oakie]Wonder where he's "reearching" now?
He obviously missed this board, but if he finds it and reads this, Hi Jerry![/QUOTE]Yo Oakie I believe Gogo ran into the same guy in Sosua. Both name start with the letter J and the description that you and Gogo recently wrote suggest that yaw were dealing with the same donkey.
If a newbie don't get the proper knowledge or worse yet not listen to a fellow monger that's already been down the same path hes going that's just a recipe for disaster in Sosua. Ooh well "Jerry" or Gogos "J" has provided some great tragedy/comic relief in both reports.
Hell I had my cup of Joe in my hand reading the reports like a tragic novel.
[QUOTE=Oakie]Just returned from two weeks in Sosua. Some general observations.
Oppresive heat with high humidity, Occasional rain shower, mostly during the night.
Stayed at Casa Marina which is undergoing major renovation. No air conditioning during the day. In the parking lot the locals are trucking out the old t.vs and mattresses as fast as they can load them. My regular left me at the bar for a few minutes. She came back smiling and told me I'd just bought her a decent flat t.v. for 2,000 pesos. I asked how the hell she'd get it home to the other end of the D.R.(10 hours and two buses and a taxi away).
No problem, she had called our regular motoconcho guy to the hotel and got him and a buddy to take it to Choramicos where she has family, and it was there already. She'll bus it home when I leave. All in 20 minutes or so. Gotta love this girl!
Never saw many cops there before, but now the're everywhere.
So, not as many chicas around, but still enough for anyone, with some real young knockouts. I saw more 10's on this trip than I've seen before down there. It was quieter than usual around N.G. and Terra Linda, quiet around town during the day, with the bars only filling up at the weekends.
First night at the bar a newbie got cornered by the resident/leech/stalker/drama queen and seemed to be enjoying the attention. When they passed our table, she stopped to say hello, because we know most of the locals and it doesn't hurt to say hello after you've seen tham a hundered times. He asked if they could join us, and we said sure. He told me he'd just arrived and was enjoying the scene. Said he'd travelled extensively and done a lot of research before choosing Sosua. I wasn't sure, judging by the hand holding already, but what the hey! I wasn't abouit to tell this particular guy how to spend his time and his money.
Eventually, we moved on to the next bar (with them in tow) and after a while they got into a big argument. She made the cutthroat sign and stormed off. I asked what's wrong. He was really pissed. Turns out he got insulted because she asked him for money for milk for bambina. Really! He'd picked the ***** of *****s (or she picked him) and he was surprised she asked him for money? What the hell did he think all this hand holding and kissing shit an hour off the plane was all about?
He said that was enough for him that night and went back to the hotel (Casa Marina). Tried to give him a pep talk but he said he thought the chica was our friend so she'd be OK. Damn! it was almost like he was accusing us of setting him up.
Next morning at breakfast he had another tale of woe, seems he went out for coffee early and got into a tugging match with chica who tried to lift his wallet, coffee thrown, pants pocket torn. He said he had had enough of Sosua and wasn't leaving the hotel.
Optimistic me says, look at all the beautiful chicas they're all out there for you and they aren't all bad. He did go out once more and got ripped off for forty dollars, Didn't ask him how, because it was becoming obvious.
His problem was that he acted like he knew it all and wasn't about to take advice from anybody. Never before have I ever seen that combination of cockiness on the one hand and on the other not having a clue as to what is really going on around him. Naive is hardly the word, but the guy was clearly out of his depth, and I did feel a little sorry for him.
He stuck around the hotel for the rest of the week waiting to home.
Wonder where he's "reearching" now?
He obviously missed this board, but if he finds it and reads this, Hi Jerry![/QUOTE]
After reading your post I have a serious bit of advice for you. Please consider the company that you are keeping because problems of others can sometimes take on a life of their own and consume you.
Just a bit of advice and it's great that you had a good time and I am sure you are laughing at dude on the inside and his problems and misfortune were the underlying joke of your trip.
[QUOTE=Manizales911]I just got a reply from Terra Linda to an e-mail request by me checking availability of a room with double occupancy and was quoted a price of $99. a night. Are they on crack or something??? I can rent a three bedroom villa and have my own pool and jacuzzi for $20. a night more for chrissakes.[/QUOTE]
Try Perla de Sosua. It's cheaper and you can book in advance online.
[QUOTE=Negro562]...Please consider the company that you are keeping because problems of others can sometimes take on a life of their own and consume you...[/QUOTE]Very, very, good advice. I don't think that I have ever stressed that enough. Some of these countries are like the "Wild West," so you don't want some dickheaded fool getting you shot!
-Helpmann :)
[b][url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=309020&postcount=478]24 Nights in Boca Chica (a.k.a. "My Fool Neighbor")[/url][/b]
There are always some hard headed know it all people. Generally in mongering it is better to do your own thing. Many will not take your advice.
However this guy may or may not be telling you the real truth.
[QUOTE=Oakie]I wasn't sure, judging by the hand holding already, but what the hey! I wasn't abouit to tell this particular guy how to spend his time and his money.
Eventually, we moved on to the next bar (with them in tow) and after a while they got into a big argument. She made the cutthroat sign and stormed off. I asked what's wrong. He was really pissed. Turns out he got insulted because she asked him for money for milk for bambina. Really! He'd picked the ***** of *****s (or she picked him) and he was surprised she asked him for money? What the hell did he think all this hand holding and kissing shit an hour off the plane was all about?
He said that was enough for him that night and went back to the hotel (Casa Marina). Tried to give him a pep talk but he said he thought the chica was our friend so she'd be OK. Damn! it was almost like he was accusing us of setting him up.
Next morning at breakfast he had another tale of woe, seems he went out for coffee early and got into a tugging match with chica who tried to lift his wallet, coffee thrown, pants pocket torn. He said he had had enough of Sosua and wasn't leaving the hotel.
Optimistic me says, look at all the beautiful chicas they're all out there for you and they aren't all bad. He did go out once more and got ripped off for forty dollars, Didn't ask him how, because it was becoming obvious.
His problem was that he acted like he knew it all and wasn't about to take advice from anybody. Never before have I ever seen that combination of cockiness on the one hand and on the other not having a clue as to what is really going on around him. Naive is hardly the word, but the guy was clearly out of his depth, and I did feel a little sorry for him.
He stuck around the hotel for the rest of the week waiting to home.
Wonder where he's "reearching" now?
He obviously missed this board, but if he finds it and reads this, Hi Jerry![/QUOTE]
Fair enough that you don't outright tell the guy that he's holding hands with the resident skankie drama queen. That would probably get you no end of trouble for sticking your nose in her business. But if she was that bad I would find some excuse so that she is not hanging onto your coatails when you go out. In a sense she was using your rep to legitimize herself.
I do feel for the guy who had all the troubles even if they are of his own making. It's those guys who should be pointed in the direction of Passions - they will most likely have a good time and won't get into trouble.
[QUOTE=Manizales911]I just got a reply from Terra Linda to an e-mail request by me checking availability of a room with double occupancy and was quoted a price of $99. a night. Are they on crack or something??? I can rent a three bedroom villa and have my own pool and jacuzzi for $20. a night more for chrissakes.[/QUOTE]
Just curious.
To those who are still curious what I did with that girl from La Passion, I kicked her out in the morning after she asked "por que no sexo?" at 9:00 AM knowing full well that she intended to be back at work by 10 AM. What a stupid woman who not only turned me off her but also off the entire establishment.
[QUOTE=Sidney]Just curious.[/QUOTE]Well noted in this forum, Sosua.
[QUOTE=Coolie High]Yo Oakie I believe Gogo ran into the same guy in Sosua. Both name start with the letter J and the description that you and Gogo recently wrote suggest that yaw were dealing with the same donkey.
If a newbie don't get the proper knowledge or worse yet not listen to a fellow monger that's already been down the same path hes going that's just a recipe for disaster in Sosua. Ooh well "Jerry" or Gogos "J" has provided some great tragedy/comic relief in both reports.
Hell I had my cup of Joe in my hand reading the reports like a tragic novel.[/QUOTE]
Yep Coolie, that's the guy.
You know I would never uses a real mongers name on this board. Funny thing is, his real name is XXXX, (4 letters) but from the get go I got it wrong and kept calling him Jerry, which he kept correcting me all week, so no harm done.
Some here chastise me for not doing more for the guy, but I did spend a lot of my time over coffee every morning, giving him the lay of the land including La Passion etc, but he just didn't want to pay for it.
Others have said I should have avoided him, but I genuinely didn't want to see him waste a weeks vacation.
My take is he saw me with my regular and the locals having a great time that first night, including some free shots sent over by the house, and wanted to hang with us. i think he figured he could just drop in and do the same shit, without going through my 2 years of investment to get to this point with my regular and her friends and family.
I didn't need his drama (3 rip offs in 3 days) so we never took him out with us again and made sure we sat at a table for two for breakfast. We did have coffee together though before my chica showed up, where I tried my best with him.
As for me, the two weeks, aside from the heat, was paradise. The only thing I could have added, is a couple rounds with one or two of those hot young chicas I saw that literally took my breath away.
But Princessa just laughed and said, maybe on my birthday :)
[QUOTE=Oakie]Some here chastise me for not doing more for the guy, but I did spend a lot of my time over coffee every morning, giving him the lay of the land including La Passion etc, but he just didn't want to pay for it.
Others have said I should have avoided him, but I genuinely didn't want to see him waste a weeks vacation.
My take is he saw me with my regular and the locals having a great time that first night, including some free shots sent over by the house, and wanted to hang with us. i think he figured he could just drop in and do the same shit, without going through my 2 years of investment to get to this point with my regular and her friends and family.
I didn't need his drama (3 rip offs in 3 days) so we never took him out with us again and made sure we sat at a table for two for breakfast. We did have coffee together though before my chica showed up, where I tried my best with him.
As for me, the two weeks, aside from the heat, was paradise. The only thing I could have added, is a couple rounds with one or two of those hot young chicas I saw that literally took my breath away.
But Princessa just laughed and said, maybe on my birthday :)[/QUOTE]
Sounds like you tried, my apologies if it sounded like I meant that you didn't. I see you did point him to Passions too. I think the saying is you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink...
Have a good birthday :-)
[QUOTE=Nacho]Sounds like you tried, my apologies if it sounded like I meant that you didn't. I see you did point him to Passions too. I think the saying is you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink...
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I have helped many a monger learn the ropes around Sosua, but there is certainly no need for extra baggage. It winds up costing you pussy!
buscemi
Any report from the Mens Club located down past Sea Cretes and before Passions.
We were there a couple of weeks ago when it first opened and attended their pool party and had a blast.
I hope it continues.
Just wondering what everyones top 5 favorite restaurants are in Sosua.
Just wondering what you guys list as your 5 favorite restaurants in Sosua.
Thank you !
So I've been reading all the DR boards and I'm trying to figure out where to go in the DR. I have a 5 day weekend the first week in November. I'm an experienced monger in Costa Rica and Brazil but since I have a free plane ticket to the Carribean, I figured i'd try some where new. I thought about staying at Blackbeards since that seems to be a good spot for DR newbies. If you read through my posts, you can see I give a lot back to the board. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
[QUOTE=Lancer520]So I've been reading all the DR boards and I'm trying to figure out where to go in the DR. I have a 5 day weekend the first week in November. I'm an experienced monger in Costa Rica and Brazil but since I have a free plane ticket to the Carribean, I figured i'd try some where new. I thought about staying at Blackbeards since that seems to be a good spot for DR newbies. If you read through my posts, you can see I give a lot back to the board. Any input would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]
Blackbeard's is a great choice if you can fly in and out of POP. While there you can take a taxi to Sosua and see if you like it. Otherwise you have everything you need in one place without the hassles of figuring anything out. Most things of interest you may have read about are accessible.
[QUOTE=Boston Gringo 1]Just wondering what you guys list as your 5 favorite restaurants in Sosua.
Thank you ![/QUOTE]
Not an expert by any means but my favs are:
1 Bailey's
2 Bologna
3 Hotel Orchidee on the roof
4 Casa Valeria
5 Britannia
Definitely agree baileys has good food. Never had a bad meal there and I sit rite at the bar. Its pricey but good and rite around corner from New Garden where I like to stay.
[QUOTE=Funinthesun63]Not an expert by any means but my favs are:
1 Bailey's
2 Bologna
3 Hotel Orchidee on the roof
4 Casa Valeria
5 Britannia[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Rebel Monger]I was in Sosua and Santo Domingo recently and yes, there's a clean up going on. Sosua still had ladies, specially at night but they were afraid of being picked up and the area in El Conde (SD) had very little action. No, it's not a hoax!
If you can read Spanish, this will tell you what's going on:
Directly from Politur website:
Fecha de publicación: 27/09/2010 8:56:49
POLITUR, FISCALIA Y POLICIA NALCIONAL ENCABEZAN OPERATIVOS EN ZONAS DE RECREACION TURISTICA.
Durante el operativo fueron halladas decenas de armas blancas y otros objetos cortantes, así como también la sustancia denominada “plomerito ó acido del diablo”, que portaban muchas de las mujeres detenidas.[/QUOTE]
It was astounding to me how girls defend themselves, in Punta Cana I met two of them that told me they had disposable blades in their purses just to fight other girls. But that notice tops everything, "plomerito o acido del diablo" is a strong acid used by plumbers to unblock pipes...
Hey Gentlemen, I have a friend of mine from Italy that wants to spend a long weekend with me in Sosua to show him the ropes. This is more for my EURO mongers, He's coming from Naples Italy, Would anybody know the FLIGHT PATH? I don't have a clue. Considering there are so many Italians on that Island and so many charter flights. ea FLY THOMSON and others.. TIA
[QUOTE=Lancer520]So I've been reading all the DR boards and I'm trying to figure out where to go in the DR. I have a 5 day weekend the first week in November. I'm an experienced monger in Costa Rica and Brazil but since I have a free plane ticket to the Carribean, I figured i'd try some where new. I thought about staying at Blackbeards since that seems to be a good spot for DR newbies. If you read through my posts, you can see I give a lot back to the board. Any input would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]You are experienced in costa rica (Spanish language), you can probably negotiate in Spanish. Sosua might be more fun. Blackbeards has attractive women and they are on site, so no hassles and no being out like on safari.
Sosua is more you go out and hunt. The hunting is easy, but it is still more of a hunt than blackbeards.
Really depends what you like. Blackbeards has everything on site, food, rooms, drinks and chicas in a safe and secure environment.
If you have done costa rica and brasil, I don't think you would have any problem in Sosua.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDekDqpc76U[/url]
A video with friends at Sosua beach.
I've put together a modest Google Earth "KML" file of hotels, some bars & restaurants, and places I found of interest in Sosua:
[url]http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=953715&filename=Westy's Sosua.kmz[/url]
The list is neither comprehensive nor complete - but I hope at least that it will help some other newbies find their way around this town....
[QUOTE=Lancer520]So I've been reading all the DR boards and I'm trying to figure out where to go in the DR. I have a 5 day weekend the first week in November. I'm an experienced monger in Costa Rica and Brazil but since I have a free plane ticket to the Carribean, I figured i'd try some where new. I thought about staying at Blackbeards since that seems to be a good spot for DR newbies. If you read through my posts, you can see I give a lot back to the board. Any input would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]I thought about stay at BB my first trip but ended up in Sosua. BB sounds like a nice place to hang out and have everything arranged for you. Sosua is the place to go if you want to bar hop, try restaurants, and watch the chica parade. Socua is not hard to figure out. Read the posts. Everything you need to know is there. Expect to pay 1000-1500 for ST and 2000-2500 for TLN in Sosua. My advice is not to negotiate. If the chica rejects your offer another willing chica will be standing behind her. BB has set prices. Spanish is not necessary. But it is nice to be able to communicate with the chica while recharging. You need to decide if you would rather have the party atmosphere of Socua or the remote layback BB experience.
[QUOTE=Lancer520]So I've been reading all the DR boards and I'm trying to figure out where to go in the DR. I have a 5 day weekend the first week in November. I'm an experienced monger in Costa Rica and Brazil but since I have a free plane ticket to the Carribean, I figured i'd try some where new. I thought about staying at Blackbeards since that seems to be a good spot for DR newbies. If you read through my posts, you can see I give a lot back to the board. Any input would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]
You may not be able to get into Blackbeard's on such short notice, but several of the Sosua hotels on Calle Dr. Rosen were showing "vacancy" signs last week and a couple of them had up signs for pretty good 'special' rates. Example - Sea Breeze had a rate of 3 nights for $100 US on their sign.
My experience of Sosua, last week, was that it was pretty wild & wooly for me, at my level of experience. I could see it was great for the more experienced and self-assured mongers, though. As John from NJ puts it, Blackbeard's is more laid-back and relaxed, and the new mamasan speaks very good English if that's a need.
I hit both places last week, and I must admit I was more comfortable with "Barba Negra". As I told Tim, the manager - "I spent four nights at the New Garden to get a taste of Sosua this trip, and it took a lot of kisses from your chicas here at Blackbeard's to get the taste of Sosua out of my mouth!"
[QUOTE=Westy]You may not be able to get into Blackbeard's on such short notice, but several of the Sosua hotels on Calle Dr. Rosen were showing "vacancy" signs last week and a couple of them had up signs for pretty good 'special' rates. Example - Sea Breeze had a rate of 3 nights for $100 US on their sign.
My experience of Sosua, last week, was that it was pretty wild & wooly for me, at my level of experience. I could see it was great for the more experienced and self-assured mongers, though. As John from NJ puts it, Blackbeard's is more laid-back and relaxed, and the new mamasan speaks very good English if that's a need.
I hit both places last week, and I must admit I was more comfortable with "Barba Negra". As I told Tim, the manager - "I spent four nights at the New Garden to get a taste of Sosua this trip, and it took a lot of kisses from your chicas here at Blackbeard's to get the taste of Sosua out of my mouth!"[/QUOTE]
That is because New Garden lets the broads in to harass you. Perla de Sosua is hidden and has the Big Metal Gate. They also have a staff that understands that when you get the girl out the gate it's over.
[QUOTE=Negro562]... New Garden lets the broads in to harass you. Perla de Sosua is hidden and has the Big Metal Gate. They also have a staff that understands that when you get the girl out the gate it's over.[/QUOTE]
Now that I've googled Perla de Sosua, it looks like a very good option ... maybe I need to add it to my Google Earth script. Thank you!
BTW, Lancer - and others who are looking at their first time in Sosua - there are plenty of options besides the New Garden. I chose it for this, my first Sosua trip, because so many reports here just-about have it branded as Monger Central. I was able to learn a lot from the more experienced punters that were staying there, and I do appreciate it!
[QUOTE=Westy]Now that I've googled Perla de Sosua, it looks like a very good option ... maybe I need to add it to my Google Earth script. Thank you!
BTW, Lancer - and others who are looking at their first time in Sosua - there are plenty of options besides the New Garden. I chose it for this, my first Sosua trip, because so many reports here just-about have it branded as Monger Central. I was able to learn a lot from the more experienced punters that were staying there, and I do appreciate it![/QUOTE]Maybe Perla de Sosua changed their policy, years ago I inquired about renting a one bedroom apartment from them for 5 nights and I was sent a form to fill out and was told I would have to deposit $500 into their paypal account as security in addition to paying the rental charges. I did not rent from them. I rented one bedroom condominium apartments through Marco at Rockys, at the tradewinds building for $45 per night with a $50 deposit, numerous times.
Perla de Sosua is down a small street from the banco popular, at the bottom of a hill. There is a large metal gate, then a parking area and then the rooms. I have no idea what their security deposit requirement is presently. There was no way I was going to deposit $500 dollars as security into some paypal account for a 5 night one bedroom apartment rental.
Considering a trip to either BB or Sosua. My preference is younger, tighter 19 to early twenties preferably with no children. I'm not as attracted to the effects of ladies who have bambinas ( saggy breasts, stretch marks). I know it may sound picky but it's just my preference.
It seems as though Latina ladies have children at a young age. I found the same in Buenos Aires. Had a difficult time finding tight, early twenties without children.
Is this readily available in Sosua/Blackbeards or am I barking up the wrong tree?
Appreciate any comments.
Considering a trip to Sosua or Blackbeards. My preference is younger, tighter, 19 to early twenties ladies preferably with out bambinas. I don't like the effects of chilbirth (saggy breasts, stretch marks). I know it may seem picky, but it's my preference. Mind you, it's not a showstopper, but a preference.
Are these types of ladies readily available in Sosua/ BB's?
It seems that Latina have children very young. I found this the same I'm Buenos Aires, had a difficult tome finding my preference.
Which is a better option, sosua or BB's or am I barking up the wrong tree?
Sorry about the duplicate post, but I didn't think the first post was accepted.
[QUOTE=Westy]Now that I've googled Perla de Sosua, it looks like a very good option ... maybe I need to add it to my Google Earth script. Thank you!
BTW, Lancer - and others who are looking at their first time in Sosua - there are plenty of options besides the New Garden. I chose it for this, my first Sosua trip, because so many reports here just-about have it branded as Monger Central. I was able to learn a lot from the more experienced punters that were staying there, and I do appreciate it![/QUOTE]
Please visit Perla's website. Jaosousa seems to have a lot of comments but, it never seems like anything he says is current so, If I were you I would visit their website and get their policies directly from them. Also, it is one of the few places in Sosua that you can book online and get airport pick up.
[QUOTE=Allie1]Considering a trip to Sosua or Blackbeards. My preference is younger, tighter, 19 to early twenties ladies preferably with out bambinas. I don't like the effects of chilbirth (saggy breasts, stretch marks). I know it may seem picky, but it's my preference. Mind you, it's not a showstopper, but a preference.
Are these types of ladies readily available in Sosua/ BB's?
It seems that Latina have children very young. I found this the same I'm Buenos Aires, had a difficult tome finding my preference.
Which is a better option, sosua or BB's or am I barking up the wrong tree?[/QUOTE]
85% of the chicas have had children, IMHO, try BB for one or two nights, that is all, Sosua has a nice schmorgasbord of toto, not all have stretch marks or saggy tetas. La Passion and CMP have lots of 8 + ladies, pricy but pretty!
READ the forum, all the information is here!!!
[QUOTE=Buscemi]85% of the chicas have had children, IMHO, try BB for one or two nights, that is all, Sosua has a nice schmorgasbord of toto, not all have stretch marks or saggy tetas. La Passion and CMP have lots of 8 + ladies, pricy but pretty!
READ the forum, all the information is here!!![/QUOTE]Thanks Buscemi for your advice. I was definitely planning to hit La Passion in Sosua. The prices seem very reasonable compared to about $250 US for one of the top rung chicas at Madaho's or Blacks in Buenos Aires.
I'm leaning towards staying at New Garden in Sosua and hitting the clubs from there. With a lack of Spanish, will I be able to get by?
It was definitely a struggle in Buenos Aires, but I managed.
[QUOTE=Allie1]Considering a trip to either BB or Sosua. My preference is younger, tighter 19 to early twenties preferably with no children. I'm not as attracted to the effects of ladies who have bambinas ( saggy breasts, stretch marks). I know it may sound picky but it's just my preference.
It seems as though Latina ladies have children at a young age. I found the same in Buenos Aires. Had a difficult time finding tight, early twenties without children.
Is this readily available in Sosua/Blackbeards or am I barking up the wrong tree?
Appreciate any comments.[/QUOTE]
IMHO most girls have children. Some have only one but many have multiple although they are still in their twenties. Once I took a girl who had 4 children but she was tight and very GFE. The girls you get is a roll of dice in DR. Once I met a 19 year old in the Casino who did not have any babies and I kept her for three days. I always rent a car so that I have multiple options to pick up. There are many casinoes where pretty girls hang around. There are many discoes also apart from in Sosua where you can pick up girls.
Latino girls seem to be more chubbier and looser compared to asian girls. Generally all of them start having sex at 14 years and not easy to find tight holes.
[QUOTE=Sammon]IMHO most girls have children. Some have only one but many have multiple although they are still in their twenties. Once I took a girl who had 4 children but she was tight and very GFE. The girls you get is a roll of dice in DR. Once I met a 19 year old in the Casino who did not have any babies and I kept her for three days. I always rent a car so that I have multiple options to pick up. There are many casinoes where pretty girls hang around. There are many discoes also apart from in Sosua where you can pick up girls.
Latino girls seem to be more chubbier and looser compared to asian girls. Generally all of them start having sex at 14 years and not easy to find tight holes.[/QUOTE]
sport fucking works both ways. I've come to the conclusion that the Dominican chica exercises that pussy to stay tight. The girls grow up with only but one toy. I have yet to do a loose sloppy pussy here in the DR. Can anybody offer any better theories ??
[QUOTE=Negro562]Please visit Perla's website. Jaosousa seems to have a lot of comments but, it never seems like anything he says is current so, If I were you I would visit their website and get their policies directly from them. Also, it is one of the few places in Sosua that you can book online and get airport pick up.[/QUOTE]Nice to see that you are the resident expert in all things Dominican. In the past I asked YOU directly about pay for play action in Santiago, you alleged you lived in Santiago and you never responded.
I believe you once posted that all women were just moist holes and in your mind it is OK to jack women.
I don't know how you earn your money, if you do live in Dom Rep, perhaps you are trying to get a kick back from perla de sosua for hawking the place.
Perla de Sosua is down a dark lonely street. Late at night it will not be the most pleasant walk. I saw perla de sosua from the outside and was not impressed with the place.
I said in my post my info was from years ago regarding perla de sosua, maybe their policy is the same or maybe their policy has changed (I doubt that a guy who robs third world chicas has 500 dollars to put down as a deposit on a 5 night nothing special one bedroom condo rental). You are hawking the place, so why don't you give further information about the place and take some photos and post them here.
You claim to live in Dominican Republic, why don't you provide more use to this board and provide up to date information with photos, about all things Dominican.
Unfortunately I can't slum around in a third world country robbing moist holes of what little money they may have, therefore you are correct some of my info is not up to date.
My offer is open any members including people like you, I will meet you for you drinks and we can discuss any subject you like.
[QUOTE=Negro562]Jaosousa seems to have a lot of comments but, it never seems like anything he says is current ...[/QUOTE]
A bit of an unnecessary comment. I find him to be one of more thoughtful and informed posters. No harm in a little trip down memory lane now and then. It doesn't all have to be the latest info provided the poster makes that fact clear and doesn't mislead people.
[QUOTE=Negro562]Please visit Perla's website. Jaosousa seems to have a lot of comments but, it never seems like anything he says is current so, If I were you I would visit their website and get their policies directly from them. Also, it is one of the few places in Sosua that you can book online and get airport pick up.[/QUOTE]I did visit their site today, so this information is up to date as of today: [url]http://perladesosua.com/availability/reserve[/url]
To make a reservation you have to fill out a form and it says it is MANDATORY that you provide your name, home address, home phone number, Credit Card information, email address. Looks like the cheapest room they have is $39 per night for a studio which requires a $150 dollar deposit (they lowered their deposit from $500 to $150, but the form is still required).
I will never give some Cheapy Sosua hotel my personal information along with my credit card information over the internet, it will never happen with me.
In the past, I walked into Rockys, spoke to Marco, asked him for a one bedroom condo, paid a $50 dollar deposit (which I always got back no problem). I paid Marco in cash $45 per night. No form to fill out with my personal information and no giving my credit card information.
Tradewinds is outside Sosua center, more than comfortable one bedroom condos, good breeze because the buildings are on a hill and a very nice pool.
[QUOTE=Charles Pooter]A bit of an unnecessary comment. I find him to be one of more thoughtful and informed posters. No harm in a little trip down memory lane now and then. It doesn't all have to be the latest info provided the poster makes that fact clear and doesn't mislead people.[/QUOTE]Thanks Pooter. This is a hobby and this should be an enjoyable board to read.
If an admitted thief recommends a cheap hotel that requires all personal information along with credit card information, red flags should go up.
[QUOTE=Riky Rapido]sport fucking works both ways. I've come to the conclusion that the Dominican chica exercises that pussy to stay tight. The girls grow up with only but one toy. I have yet to do a loose sloppy pussy here in the DR. Can anybody offer any better theories ??[/QUOTE]
bwahahahah dominican chicas doing excercises! Sorry couldn't resist that one.
[QUOTE=Riky Rapido]sport fucking works both ways. I've come to the conclusion that the Dominican chica exercises that pussy to stay tight. The girls grow up with only but one toy. I have yet to do a loose sloppy pussy here in the DR. Can anybody offer any better theories ??[/QUOTE]
More associated with Haitian girls, the Dominican's call pussy control "Cocomordan". It's like the result of kegel exercises and practice controlling the PC muscles. I've had a couple Haitian chicas who could do a lot with it. The same skill put to entertainment purposes was what Thai and Phillipino clubs used to be famous for: shooting out ping pong balls, blowing out candles and all sorts of pussy circus tricks.
I do think both Haitian and Dominican girls are raised to be more aware of the importance of actively learning to please a guy in bed - and some girls had mothers, relatives or friends get them started early on developing skills.
With Haitian girls I think many of them also have very well developed muscles for squatting because they have done chores in that position for years. It's a very cool skill to be able to squat over you, with the only point of contact being your dick inside her, and combine cocomordan with subtle movements so it's like getting a very good BJ from a pussy.
[QUOTE=Negro562] Jaosousa seems to have a lot of comments but, it never seems like anything he says is current so,[/QUOTE]Hahaha, nothing I post is current? Please point out my posts that were incorrect, thanks. I am looking forward to it. I doubt you will respond.
[QUOTE=Negro562]...Jaosousa seems to have a lot of comments but, it never seems like anything he says is current so...[/QUOTE]I disagree. Personally, I believe that Jaosousa has provided me with very good, current, and detailed information pertaining to the Dominican Republic (especially Santo Domingo).
-Helpmann :)
[QUOTE=Marc Anthony]...With Haitian girls I think many of them also have very well developed muscles for squatting because they have done chores in that position for years. It's a very cool skill to be able to squat over you, with the only point of contact being your dick inside her, and combine cocomordan with subtle movements so it's like getting a very good BJ from a pussy.[/QUOTE]Insightful post. I have never associated squatting with the development of strong vaginal muscles. That is a very interesting observation.
Thanks,
Helpmann :)
[QUOTE=Jaosousa]Hahaha, nothing I post is current? Please point out my posts that were incorrect, thanks. I am looking forward to it. I doubt you will respond.[/QUOTE]
I will respond. Why wouldn't I?
Perla de Sosua has a policy of a $150 refundable security deposit for new customers that rent their apartments through their internet website or Expedia. If you are a recurring customer or a walk in their is no deposit.
That being said, your information is not current. You must have had tried to stay there over 5 years ago before the current owner bought the place and changed the policy.
Also, for those who care, Perla is not a hotel but and Aparta Hotel. They have units that are singles as well as one a two bedrooms with full kitchen (For guy who like to have their broads do more womanly stuff than just fuck).
[QUOTE=Helpmann]I disagree. Personally, I believe that Jaosousa has provided me with very good, current, and detailed information pertaining to the Dominican Republic (especially Santo Domingo).
-Helpmann :)[/QUOTE]
Great. I am sure he is happy to have such a loyal friend as yourself. Keep up the good work.
You have to be kidding about Rockys, cant even understand why they would want a deposit, the place is a total dump, especially there rooms. Least I know how you roll. I would never stay there.
[QUOTE=Jaosousa]I did visit their site today, so this information is up to date as of today: [url]http://perladesosua.com/availability/reserve[/url]
To make a reservation you have to fill out a form and it says it is MANDATORY that you provide your name, home address, home phone number, Credit Card information, email address. Looks like the cheapest room they have is $39 per night for a studio which requires a $150 dollar deposit (they lowered their deposit from $500 to $150, but the form is still required).
I will never give some Cheapy Sosua hotel my personal information along with my credit card information over the internet, it will never happen with me.
In the past, I walked into Rockys, spoke to Marco, asked him for a one bedroom condo, paid a $50 dollar deposit (which I always got back no problem). I paid Marco in cash $45 per night. No form to fill out with my personal information and no giving my credit card information.
Tradewinds is outside Sosua center, more than comfortable one bedroom condos, good breeze because the buildings are on a hill and a very nice pool.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=You Can]You have to be kidding about Rockys, cant even understand why they would want a deposit, the place is a total dump, especially there rooms. Least I know how you roll. I would never stay there.[/QUOTE]You Can read?
Marco at Rockys rents out one bedroom apartments at tradewinds condominiums. It is obvious the rooms at Rockys are not one bedroom condominium apartments, outside the center of Sosua.
Don't try to comprehend my post before you decide to chime in, great.
[quote=helpmann]i disagree. personally, i believe that jaosousa has provided me with very good, current, and detailed information pertaining to the dominican republic (especially santo domingo).
-helpmann :)[/quote]i would bet that there are more than a few young male us citizens who jumped bail (to avoid going to jail, for [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] or robbery) and who decided to live in dom rep. my guess is, it is possible some of these criminals post on this board.
a young us male citizen who considers all women nothing more than moist holes, i don't know why that young man would decide to live in a third world country, then decide he needed to jack the local women in order to survive.
i did over ten trips to sosua over the years. over time i noticed that sosua was attracting an undesirable crowd, both dominican and foreign. i grew up in the bronx, new york and worked in the rough parts of brooklyn, upper manhattan and the bronx. when i go on vacation, i don't want to be around low life want to be thug gangstas. i stopped going to sosua and have no desire to return to sosua.
if a newbie wants to give all his personal information and his credit card information over the internet to a hotel in sosewer, that has practically no reviews on this site, then that newbie is free to roll the dice.
if the spokesperson for a certain sosua hotel is a fugitive [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord126][CodeWord126][/url] or robber, then that information should be made available to anyone considering that hotel.
I am still waiting for you to point out where any of my posts were incorrect.
[QUOTE=Negro562]I will respond. Why wouldn't I?
Perla de Sosua has a policy of a $150 refundable security deposit for new customers that rent their apartments through their internet website or Expedia. If you are a recurring customer or a walk in their is no deposit.
That being said, your information is not current. You must have had tried to stay there over 5 years ago before the current owner bought the place and changed the policy.
Also, for those who care, Perla is not a hotel but and Aparta Hotel. They have units that are singles as well as one a two bedrooms with full kitchen (For guy who like to have their broads do more womanly stuff than just fuck).[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=You Can]You have to be kidding about Rockys, cant even understand why they would want a deposit, the place is a total dump, especially there rooms. Least I know how you roll. I would never stay there.[/QUOTE]You didn't understand Jaos post, he never said he stayed at Rockys. Marco also rents condos at tradewinds and the Palms. Those were the condos Jao was talking about. No one in there right mind would descibe Rockys as condos. A more fitting description wold be "midevil dungeon".
[QUOTE=You Can]You have to be kidding about Rockys, cant even understand why they would want a deposit, the place is a total dump, especially there rooms. Least I know how you roll. I would never stay there.[/QUOTE]
You are confused, sir. Jaosousa was writing about Rocky's condos at Tradewinds not the rooms in the bar itself. The latter were indeed very basic though much cheaper, more a backpacker kind of deal, but Jaosousa was not recommending those.
Good food, close to the action, great management and staff, friendly environment, excellent internet, and TV, and a huge screen for sports and movies.
[QUOTE=Helpmann]Insightful post. I have never associated squatting with the development of strong vaginal muscles. That is a very interesting observation.
Thanks,
Helpmann :)[/QUOTE]
Not really that the two are directly related, just that you find them together in some Haitian girls with good result. A chica who has not grown up squatting as she worked wouldn't have the muscle to hold a position over you and make controlled movements for very long. The cocomordan I think is a separate thing that comes from doing specific exercises (kegel). There might be some idiom in Kreyol to describe the result, like "ti bef" poetically describes a great BJ.
[QUOTE=Charles Pooter]You are confused, sir. Jaosousa was writing about Rocky's condos at Tradewinds not the rooms in the bar itself. The latter were indeed very basic though much cheaper, more a backpacker kind of deal, but Jaosousa was not recommending those.[/QUOTE]When I first started going to Sosua the rooms in the bungalows at Rockys were about $14 per night. Rockys is the closest lodging to Classicos. Rooms are basic, no air conditioning when I stayed there (the condominium apartment at Tradewinds has an air conditioner). For Rockys, Marco would give you a key to the front gate which would be locked at night, you could enter late with some friends and sit at the sofas chatting and drinking inside until you wanted to go to your room. I never had any problems with Marco, good straight up guy.
Long time reader of posts here. Just back from Sosua, this is my 4th trip to Sosua. Wonderfull time, alot less guys than last year and it seems like the pricces have definately droped, due to the lack of tourist. Just wanted to comment on the tight p-ssy issue, I can't remember if ever having a dominican or a hatian girl with a loose p-ssy. It seems I've gotten much more loose p-ssy in the states.
[QUOTE=You Can]You have to be kidding about Rockys, cant even understand why they would want a deposit, the place is a total dump, especially there rooms. Least I know how you roll. I would never stay there.[/QUOTE]You have no clue how I roll and you never will.
Basic English Grammar 101: THERE is when you are describing a location. My shoes are over THERE.
THEIR is used when describing the possessive. THEIR shoes are over there.
Especially their rooms.
[QUOTE=Allie1]Thanks Buscemi for your advice. I was definitely planning to hit La Passion in Sosua. The prices seem very reasonable compared to about $250 US for one of the top rung chicas at Madaho's or Blacks in Buenos Aires.
I'm leaning towards staying at New Garden in Sosua and hitting the clubs from there. With a lack of Spanish, will I be able to get by?
It was definitely a struggle in Buenos Aires, but I managed.[/QUOTE]
Learn Mil Quiniento or Mil Pesos ....just know the prices, and the rest is easy, make sure you lock down your valuables at all times in New Garden!
No reason to top tick, it is a buyer's market right now.
Happy Hoeing.
Buscemi
[QUOTE=You Can]You have to be kidding about Rockys, cant even understand why they would want a deposit, the place is a total dump, especially there rooms. Least I know how you roll. I would never stay there.[/QUOTE]
We do not need your negative energy here, seriously.
I am not a shill for Rocky's, but I have met many lifetime friends there. It may not be a Mandarin Oriental Hotel, but it is safe, cheap, and clean plus the food will not make you sick. If you are such a baller, I assume you rent a 4 bedroom at Sea Horse Ranch? Try to contibute something worthwhile here putz.
Buscemi
[quote=marc anthony]not really that the two are directly related, just that you find them together in some haitian girls with good result. a chica who has not grown up squatting as she worked wouldn't have the muscle to hold a position over you and make controlled movements for very long. the cocomordan i think is a separate thing that comes from doing specific exercises (kegel). there might be some idiom in kreyol to describe the result, like "ti bef" poetically describes a great bj.[/quote]bathrooms in dr many times are a little rough. i would imagine campo chicas don't have a nice comfortable clean toilet seat to sit on when they need to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord111][CodeWord111][/url] or defecate. squatting low while keeping their ass cheeks off a dirty surface is probably performed often by them.
nice position when they are over you and they balance all their weight on their folded legs and move up and down.
[QUOTE=Riky Rapido]sport fucking works both ways. I've come to the conclusion that the Dominican chica exercises that pussy to stay tight. [i]The girls grow up with only but one toy.[/i] I have yet to do a loose sloppy pussy here in the DR. Can anybody offer any better theories ??[/QUOTE]
I would be ROFL if your statement weren't so true - and frankly rather sad. The girls "clean up" so very well that we forget their life before the bar-scene and how they must live outside of Classico's. And if she enjoys her work, that classic horizontal exercise we share with them is enough to keep that snapper snappin' - [i]¿tengo razon?[/i]
Hi folks,
I have to tell you that this is my first ever visit to this site and I like what I see although I have been a long time member of both DR1 and ****. I am Rick, the NEW owner of Rocky's here in Sosua. I have owned it for the last two years and have made many improvements to both the restaurant and the rooms. Marco is still living here for those of you who know him. He is my back up and my night time security. We have a brotherly relationship.
Yes, Rocky's is a very basic hotel but I have installed air conditioning in all the rooms. We have purchased new beds, linens, towels and secured all the windows against those pesky mosquitos. We have color cable TV in all the rooms and a huge new screen to show sports and movies. We have purchased a new living room suite for you to relax on with friends or when just stopping by to see a movie. We have installed a 6 camera infared security system for yours and our piece of mind. Things are much better at Rocky's now and we enjoy a huge following of like minded people who don't mind saving some money on accommodations to give them a little more to spend on the chicas.
I know there are those of you who must have the best available accommodations when you travel and I don't blame you one bit for this. It's your money so do as you please. For those of you who enjoy a friendly atmosphere, good food, great staff and clean SECURE basic accommodations, please check us out. I'll do almost anything I can to make your stay with us as pleasent as possible. If you encounter a problem, I listen AND react to correct the situation.
When is Sosua, come on by and introduce yourselves. Take a look at the New Rocky's and check out the rooms. They are definately not for everyone but I know most will be pleasently surprised by all the positive changes I have made here at Rocky's.
Take care and I hope to meet many of you soon,
Rick
[QUOTE=Dafishguy]Hi folks,
I have to tell you that this is my first ever visit to this site and I like what I see although I have been a long time member of both DR1 and ****. I am Rick, the NEW owner of Rocky's here in Sosua. I have owned it for the last two years and have made many improvements to both the restaurant and the rooms. Marco is still living here for those of you who know him. He is my back up and my night time security. We have a brotherly relationship.
Yes, Rocky's is a very basic hotel but I have installed air conditioning in all the rooms. We have purchased new beds, linens, towels and secured all the windows against those pesky mosquitos. We have color cable TV in all the rooms and a huge new screen to show sports and movies. We have purchased a new living room suite for you to relax on with friends or when just stopping by to see a movie. We have installed a 6 camera infared security system for yours and our piece of mind. Things are much better at Rocky's now and we enjoy a huge following of like minded people who don't mind saving some money on accommodations to give them a little more to spend on the chicas.
I know there are those of you who must have the best available accommodations when you travel and I don't blame you one bit for this. It's your money so do as you please. For those of you who enjoy a friendly atmosphere, good food, great staff and clean SECURE basic accommodations, please check us out. I'll do almost anything I can to make your stay with us as pleasent as possible. If you encounter a problem, I listen AND react to correct the situation.
When is Sosua, come on by and introduce yourselves. Take a look at the New Rocky's and check out the rooms. They are definately not for everyone but I know most will be pleasently surprised by all the positive changes I have made here at Rocky's.
Take care and I hope to meet many of you soon,
Rick[/QUOTE]Any photos?
I have met Rick a couple of times and we have many mutual friends in common. He iseems to be standup guy. I just came back from a week in Sosua and while I'm a committed NG guy, I heard many good things about the new Rocky's.
Rick
Good luck! Rocky's needed updating. I'm sure you'll do well.
[QUOTE=Dafishguy]Hi folks,
I have to tell you that this is my first ever visit to this site and I like what I see although I have been a long time member of both DR1 and ****. I am Rick, the NEW owner of Rocky's here in Sosua. I have owned it for the last two years and have made many improvements to both the restaurant and the rooms. Marco is still living here for those of you who know him. He is my back up and my night time security. We have a brotherly relationship.
Yes, Rocky's is a very basic hotel but I have installed air conditioning in all the rooms. We have purchased new beds, linens, towels and secured all the windows against those pesky mosquitos. We have color cable TV in all the rooms and a huge new screen to show sports and movies. We have purchased a new living room suite for you to relax on with friends or when just stopping by to see a movie. We have installed a 6 camera infared security system for yours and our piece of mind. Things are much better at Rocky's now and we enjoy a huge following of like minded people who don't mind saving some money on accommodations to give them a little more to spend on the chicas.
I know there are those of you who must have the best available accommodations when you travel and I don't blame you one bit for this. It's your money so do as you please. For those of you who enjoy a friendly atmosphere, good food, great staff and clean SECURE basic accommodations, please check us out. I'll do almost anything I can to make your stay with us as pleasent as possible. If you encounter a problem, I listen AND react to correct the situation.
When is Sosua, come on by and introduce yourselves. Take a look at the New Rocky's and check out the rooms. They are definately not for everyone but I know most will be pleasently surprised by all the positive changes I have made here at Rocky's.
Take care and I hope to meet many of you soon,
Rick[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dafishguy]
Yes, Rocky's is a very basic hotel but I have installed air conditioning in all the rooms. We have purchased new beds, linens, towels and secured all the windows against those pesky mosquitos. We have color cable TV in all the rooms and a huge new screen to show sports and movies. We have purchased a new living room suite for you to relax on with friends or when just stopping by to see a movie. We have installed a 6 camera infared security system for yours and our piece of mind.
Rick[/QUOTE]
Do you have digital safes? My idiot friend stayed at the SEA BREEZE and even though his shit was locked up, she got a hold of his Safe Key and took $500us and a credit card and charged 2 fill ups.. This guy is a drunken mess when he goes to the DR and we told him numerous times but doesnt listen so we consider this "part of the territory" when we take him with us. At night we now all exchange or hide our safe keys. A digital safe is much handier.
[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver]Do you have digital safes? My idiot friend stayed at the SEA BREEZE and even though his shit was locked up, she got a hold of his Safe Key and took $500us and a credit card and charged 2 fill ups.. This guy is a drunken mess when he goes to the DR and we told him numerous times but doesnt listen so we consider this "part of the territory" when we take him with us. At night we now all exchange or hide our safe keys. A digital safe is much handier.[/QUOTE]There is a hotel in santo domingo that does not have safes. I was always curious what the cost of a digital safe was. I always visit dealnews.com to see daily deals on electronics, clothes and travel. They showed a digital safe from harbor freight tools for $34.99 US. For that inexpensive price no hotel room should be without a safe. A large safe to fit a laptop is a plus.
[url]http://www.harborfreight.com/037-cubic-ft-electronic-digital-safe-93575.html[/url]
[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver]Do you have digital safes? My idiot friend stayed at the SEA BREEZE and even though his shit was locked up, she got a hold of his Safe Key and took $500us and a credit card and charged 2 fill ups.. This guy is a drunken mess when he goes to the DR and we told him numerous times but doesnt listen so we consider this "part of the territory" when we take him with us. At night we now all exchange or hide our safe keys. A digital safe is much handier.[/QUOTE]Yes, all of our rooms and condos have digital safes bolted to the concrete walls. You won't have a problem with thefts out of your safes or break ins into your rooms at Rocky's. We are TOTALLY committed to your safety and security while you are on Rocky property.
[QUOTE=Jaosousa]There is a hotel in santo domingo that does not have safes. I was always curious what the cost of a digital safe was. I always visit dealnews.com to see daily deals on electronics, clothes and travel. They showed a digital safe from harbor freight tools for $34.99 US. For that inexpensive price no hotel room should be without a safe. A large safe to fit a laptop is a plus.
[url]http://www.harborfreight.com/037-cubic-ft-electronic-digital-safe-93575.html[/url][/QUOTE]
Thats a nice safe Jao, thats exactly what they have in the Europa.. I think asking for a large one that would accommodate a 15" plus laptop would just be asking to much for the DR, Though Heaven sent! I dont know, maybe this shit bro, [url]http://www.pacsafe.com/www/index.php?_room=3&_action=detail&id=117[/url] what do you think?
[QUOTE=Dafishguy]Yes, all of our rooms and condos have digital safes bolted to the concrete walls. You won't have a problem with thefts out of your safes or break ins into your rooms at Rocky's. We are TOTALLY committed to your safety and security while you are on Rocky property.[/QUOTE]
That sound nice! Why don't you update your website when the renovation is completely done.. Or if it is done already is your website updated? What are the prices please? TIA..
[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver]Thats a nice safe Jao, thats exactly what they have in the Europa.. I think asking for a large one that would accommodate a 15" plus laptop would just be asking to much for the DR, Though Heaven sent! I dont know, maybe this shit bro, [url]http://www.pacsafe.com/www/index.php?_room=3&_action=detail&id=117[/url] what do you think?[/QUOTE]Portable soft travel safe pouch, looks good. Have you tried it?
[QUOTE=Charles Pooter]You are confused, sir. Jaosousa was writing about Rocky's condos at Tradewinds not the rooms in the bar itself. The latter were indeed very basic though much cheaper, more a backpacker kind of deal, but Jaosousa was not recommending those.[/QUOTE]
Why would either of you be commenting about discount joints when this is obviously slumming for you?
[QUOTE=Negro562]Why would either of you be commenting about discount joints when this is obviously slumming for you?[/QUOTE]I have chased them on the French Riviera, I didn't like the rocky beach in Nice, France. Playa Sosua has sand, which is much better than the stones they have on the beach in Nice.
[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver]Thats a nice safe Jao, thats exactly what they have in the Europa.. I think asking for a large one that would accommodate a 15" plus laptop would just be asking to much for the DR, Though Heaven sent! I dont know, maybe this shit bro, [url]http://www.pacsafe.com/www/index.php?_room=3&_action=detail&id=117[/url] what do you think?[/QUOTE]
I haven't looked at these, certainly I haven't tried them ... but I've wondered, too.
What's evident to me is that the PacSafe won't resist a determined effort to get at its contents, but a "surreptitious" effort - such as the one that a chambermaid, or your 'novia de la noche', might make to play Lady Light-Fingers with it - would be quite a bit more difficult. Especially if you had the drawstring cable looped and locked around a large and solidly-secured object like the bed frame - and you'd checked to make sure the object couldn't be disassembled to let a thief take the whole PacSafe and open it at leisure.
I must say I really appreciate the New Garden's digital safes! They seem quite secure, they aren't going anywhere, and it would take a lot of time to enter code after code after code in hopes of finding the magic numbers.
I have one of these but after carrying it with me for a time, I gave up trying to use it. It seems secure enough with the heavy gauge construction but my problem was finding something to secure it to. It's the only way you can be assured someone doesn't walk walk off with it. But few things in a hotel room meet those requirements. Almost everything in a room can be disassembled and one of the few relatively secure items, the toliet bowl is too large for the cable on mine.
[QUOTE=Koki9290]I have one of these but after carrying it with me for a time, I gave up trying to use it. It seems secure enough with the heavy gauge construction but my problem was finding something to secure it to. It's the only way you can be assured someone doesn't walk walk off with it. But few things in a hotel room meet those requirements. Almost everything in a room can be disassembled and one of the few relatively secure items, the toliet bowl is too large for the cable on mine.[/QUOTE]
I've been using it for years. I agree it's only as sturdy as what you attach it to. The best place I ever attached it to is a couch frame but most hotels don't have one.
I bought a few other goodies off of [url]www.coporatetravelsafety.com[/url]. You should look into a set of straps with locks attached to the buckle. People use these to attach surfboards and other things to their car roof. They would work on a dresser draw with handles.
All these things do is deter petty theft. They aren't meant to stop a planned robbery.
I have also come the conclusion that hotel safes aren't always secure as you might think. There IS a spare key floating around somewhere. I am starting to lock my valuables up in a locked bag *before putting it into a safe. This can help you from people trying to skim from your pile. If done the right way you would never know your money was being skimmed.
I bought one of those Pac Safes as well after someone on this thread recommended it. I took it with me a few times then I got tired of carrying it around with me. For one, most places where I was using it already had a safe. Also I would usually attach it to a bed frame or in the closet around the bar and hook it through a couple of hangers as well. I got tired of having to undo the whole contraption each time I forgot to take something out or put something in. It is well designed and constructed but can be a pain in the ass for frequent use.
tripadvisor dot com has several current reviews.
[QUOTE=Negro562]Please visit Perla's website. Jaosousa seems to have a lot of comments but, it never seems like anything he says is current so, If I were you I would visit their website and get their policies directly from them. Also, it is one of the few places in Sosua that you can book online and get airport pick up.[/QUOTE]
Going to Sosua, first time, where should I stay? Live in CR for a couple years, mongered in numerous Latin American countries.
[QUOTE=The Dirty Pirate]Going to Sosua, first time, where should I stay? Live in CR for a couple years, mongered in numerous Latin American countries.[/QUOTE]
Many men hang there and will advise you.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]I bought one of those Pac Safes as well after someone on this thread recommended it. I took it with me a few times then I got tired of carrying it around with me. For one, most places where I was using it already had a safe. Also I would usually attach it to a bed frame or in the closet around the bar and hook it through a couple of hangers as well. I got tired of having to undo the whole contraption each time I forgot to take something out or put something in. It is well designed and constructed but can be a pain in the ass for frequent use.[/QUOTE]
The best of the pacsafe products I found is the smaller fanny bag that they sell (they have two sizes). When I go to the airport, and when passing through security, I place my wallet, house keys, important documents in it, and just lock it up. It is not unusual in some places for your luggage to pass through the xray machine before you do. One time, when I arrive to Santo Domingo, passed my bag through security, and by the time they were finished checking me out the woman on the other end was trying desperately to open my fanny bag. She simply couldn't figure it out. Sometimes some of the airport workers try to steal or shake down tourists for money. There were so many complaints made to the Dominican Consulate that signs are now posted in the airports (in Spanish) about giving people money.
In the hotels, it is not just the chicas but also the workers who will take items. Even with a digital safe there is a way of overriding it (many forget their password). Anything with a key lock, believe me, someone has a copy of the key (just in case someone gets locked out). I see people use the fanny bag in the streets but I have found it to be cumbersome. What I do is anchor it inside the safe (I've done this at the Europa, New Garden, And Terra Linda.) and place original documents, airline tickets, house keys, large sums of money, and what not in there. Enternaitonal is correct in that it can sometimes be a pain to open and close Pacsafe products so to compensate I leave some money outside the fanny bag but in the safe. If someone enters the safe they will not take the contents of the fanny bag but the small sum. Pacsafe are portable, light, security, and if someone wants to break into these items they will but it is more of a deterrent. Except for maintenance the average hotel worker or chica will not carry around wire cutters or other tools to break into things.
One time I was a bike messenger in New York, a city notorious for theft of cycles. I must have called a dozen bike shops up about what would be the best lock, only to come to the conclusion (as one bicycle dealer told me) that if they wanted to steal my bike they would. I could not stop them. I went out and purchased three types of locks, needing three different tools to break. At one of my job sites I met a client who was a bicycle thief. This is what he did to make money. He entered my work area because he saw my bike. We started talking and he said that he would not steal my bike because it would take too much time. Thieves need time to steal. Slow them up or discourage them.
I recall when I was checking out Hotel Valeria I found their rules to be very strict. I hesitated and the gentleman noticed my reaction. I mentioned one story that one of the guests was staying at Hotel Valeria and one day decided to stay three days at Cabarete, with a chica. He ended up calling Valeria, since he also still staying there, and told thee owner that the chica he was with stole his camera and $300!. The hotel paid for a cab to pick him up. One can never be too safe, especially in a foreign country.
I guess the problem with all security is that it tends to be time consuming. Rarely is security nonintrusive in one form or another.
Been to DR many times, I cannot recommend Rockys, its a dump. Stay in New Garden( the new wing or Don Antonio) just google either one with DR in at end of each and there web site will come up.. New Garden is around 60 Us per night and Don Antonio is like 30.00. But New garden is much nicer.
[QUOTE=The Dirty Pirate]Going to Sosua, first time, where should I stay? Live in CR for a couple years, mongered in numerous Latin American countries.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sidney]Many men hang there and will advise you.[/QUOTE]For price, location and a manager who speaks English and who has lived in Sosua for many years and who will help out a monger, Rockys would be my choice.
If the guy wants ultra luxury, those accommodations can be found nearby with prices of $3,000 US per night and up.
[QUOTE=Jaosousa]I have chased them on the French Riviera, I didn't like the rocky beach in Nice, France. Playa Sosua has sand, which is much better than the stones they have on the beach in Nice.[/QUOTE]I can't agree with you more brother....
Does anybody know where I can buy US-quality lubricant in Sosua or Puerto Plata?
Astroglide, KY, etc? Maybe some flavors.
Any good sex shops around?
Have been in Sosua last month, I didn't notice too many changes with october 2009. It is stille the easiest place in DR to meet pros. Non pros do exist, but the eventual price will be higher. Price range from 1500. Most girls will leave you room anyway after you came for the first time, so I dont't think there is a lot of bennefit for a long time chica, advise to speak at least some Spanish. Also if your hotel is not girlfriendly it is possible to rent some short time near merenque bar for 300 pesos.
[QUOTE=Jargrophob]Does anybody know where I can buy US-quality lubricant in Sosua or Puerto Plata?
Astroglide, KY, etc? Maybe some flavors.
Any good sex shops around?[/QUOTE]There is a new sex shop called fantasy world. I talked to the owner he is a cool dominican that also lives in Brooklyn. They have a couple cute girls working there that are very helpful. Its located right next to Seacrets on the street.
[QUOTE=Boriman]The best of the pacsafe products I found is the smaller fanny bag that they sell (they have two sizes). When I go to the airport, and when passing through security, I place my wallet, house keys, important documents in it, and just lock it up. It is not unusual in some places for your luggage to pass through the xray machine before you do. One time, when I arrive to Santo Domingo, passed my bag through security, and by the time they were finished checking me out the woman on the other end was trying desperately to open my fanny bag. She simply couldn't figure it out. Sometimes some of the airport workers try to steal or shake down tourists for money.
Having worked at the airport as a baggage handler systems agent. Do not believe that they cannot open that bag. If there is security at that airport, they have the key for any & every bag. If you do not want your personal items tampered with, I suggest you carry that bag through the check point, let them check it out. This is the only way you will know that it is safe a secure. One last thing, if you see a rip on that bag. Either the xray machine did it or they got in that bag. Believe me no bag is secure!
Now I've had boots on a the ground for about 2weeks now and I've been in Sosua for about a week of the 2. I can unequivocally say that I have never seen so many Americans here and I can say I'm sick and tired of see'n the cops harassing the chicas. Now putting both of those items into perspective I can see how they are directly related to one another.
Unfortunately I'm seeing a lot of disrespect from the visitors to the locals. I know we come here and make the most of our time and money but when ppl come over to my house they don't come in a kick over my fuck'n TV and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] on my floor. IMHO I think some of these visitor need to exercise a little class and respect for the locals. I'm not saying ppl should be naive but DUDE?
I'm all for a man making a buck but over the years our paradise has been exposed and videos/video producers like this and some others that I won't name have brought so much attention here that this added attention has evoked a response from the powers that be here. The shit sucks. Only share with those that do what you do.
I don't see as many cops back home like I've seen this week here in Sosua. Things are changing here and the question is are you ready to adapt to the change.
[QUOTE=Blk Big Bootyluv] I'm sick and tired of see'n the cops harassing the chicas. Now putting both of those items into perspective I can see how they are directly related to one another.[/QUOTE]
It is all a question of discretion, local government would not do much if they wouldn´t had been pushed by people that dislike the usual displays of disparate couples kissing and fondling in the street and loud speaking drunkards making the hell out of the streets, being they american or not. It is not a question of nationality.
When you have a good place where to practice our sport, one of the first rules is not to spoil the ground, so everybody could play afterwards.
So the point is not to take the place as you are the four horsemen of the apocalipsis, but to be gentle and take the most of that country without the local people noticing.
You have to be kidding? The whole place is pretty dirty and has prostitutes all over the place. Pretty hard for even a blind person not to notice. WTF?
[QUOTE=Mike Hammer]It is all a question of discretion, local government would not do much if they wouldn´t had been pushed by people that dislike the usual displays of disparate couples kissing and fondling in the street and loud speaking drunkards making the hell out of the streets, being they american or not. It is not a question of nationality.
When you have a good place where to practice our sport, one of the first rules is not to spoil the ground, so everybody could play afterwards.
So the point is not to take the place as you are the four horsemen of the apocalipsis, but to be gentle and take the most of that country without the local people noticing.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=You Can]The whole place is pretty dirty and has prostitutes all over the place.[/QUOTE]
My kind of place! Can't wait for my trip at the end of this month!
[QUOTE=Mike Hammer]It is all a question of discretion, local government would not do much if they wouldn´t had been pushed by people that dislike the usual displays of disparate couples kissing and fondling in the street and loud speaking drunkards making the hell out of the streets, being they american or not. It is not a question of nationality.
When you have a good place where to practice our sport, one of the first rules is not to spoil the ground, so everybody could play afterwards.
So the point is not to take the place as you are the four horsemen of the apocalipsis, but to be gentle and take the most of that country without the local people noticing.[/QUOTE]
If Costa Rica closes down the Del Rey and a few other bars and MPs you might as well say the country is closed as a mongering destination. The DR on the other hand is actually a mongering culture. Every little crossroads in the campo has a disco tipico with available chicas. You can pick up chicas anywhere in the entire friggin country. Also, dominicans have certain tendencies in the drunken fratboy celebration department as well.
I think you have hit on exactly the right word to describe the dominican attitude to this though, discretion. Just about every Dominican man with even a little money or power has a mistress, a couple of girlfriends and still has time to bang his secretary and pick up new chicas on special occasions. The power structure of this country completely buys into chica chasing as a hobby - but they firmly believe that respectable guys keep it discreet. They frown on making a public show of it. Passions and the new place next door are kind of a foreign anomaly. The DR as you are well aware has a LOT of brothels but they are as you have noticed if you ever tried to find them...very discreet. It's not Pataya. They look generally like regular houses or offices.
There is a big construction boom in SD despite the recession and all that invested narcomoney doesn't want indiscreet sex workers making it even a tiny bit harder to sell. It's kind of like those real estate "stagers" who come in and rearrange the furniture and put an apple pie in the oven. Sweeping hookers off the streets isn't real important but at least it's easy.
[QUOTE=Marc Anthony]If Costa Rica closes down the Del Rey and a few other bars and MPs you might as well say the country is closed as a mongering destination. The DR on the other hand is actually a mongering culture. Every little crossroads in the campo has a disco tipico with available chicas. You can pick up chicas anywhere in the entire friggin country. Also, dominicans have certain tendencies in the drunken fratboy celebration department as well.
I think you have hit on exactly the right word to describe the dominican attitude to this though, discretion. Just about every Dominican man with even a little money or power has a mistress, a couple of girlfriends and still has time to bang his secretary and pick up new chicas on special occasions. The power structure of this country completely buys into chica chasing as a hobby - but they firmly believe that respectable guys keep it discreet. They frown on making a public show of it. Passions and the new place next door are kind of a foreign anomaly. The DR as you are well aware has a LOT of brothels but they are as you have noticed if you ever tried to find them...very discreet. It's not Pataya. They look generally like regular houses or offices.
There is a big construction boom in SD despite the recession and all that invested narcomoney doesn't want indiscreet sex workers making it even a tiny bit harder to sell. It's kind of like those real estate "stagers" who come in and rearrange the furniture and put an apple pie in the oven. Sweeping hookers off the streets isn't real important but at least it's easy.[/QUOTE]Hit the nail right on the head.
My comment about mongering being a part of the culture reminded me of the day a missionary monk visited my high school religion class. I went to a catholic boys school run by an order of brothers. Completely true story.
This guy was telling about running his mission school someplace in South America, Columbia or Peru I think.
The school had a successful soccer team and the big game was coming up and the star player came up to him and said "Brother, I can't make it to play."
The monk was shocked. He asked "Why can't you make it? What's so important that you have to miss the biggest game of the year?"
The kid said "Brother, it's my 15th birthday."
The monk was just puzzled. "So what's so important about your 15th birthday that it's more important than playing in the biggest match of the year?".
"Brother, it's my 15th birthday, my dad is taking me to the brothel."
That guy knew how to tell a story that got us more interested in the missions. Everybody was thinking, damn that's what I want for my 15th birthday.
Entirely straight recollection - and i think the missionary was telling a real story, even if structured with a punchline.
So, I haven't posted in this forum in a while because most of the information tends to be repetitive but I feel the need to post about a recent untasteful experience in Sosua (amongst other things). Once I landed, I had a friend waiting to pick me up from the airport. My stay was planned to be a short one and I really didn't want to take a taxi or motoconcho everywhere. So I decided I wanted to rent a car for a few days. The first quote I was quoted at the airport was 70 dollars per day with insurance. Lmfao. Are you serious was my reaction. No thanks I'll find something cheaper. Next company quoted 60, and the original one then told me 55. Then some guy is draggin by my arm and in my face saying what kind of car you need wha kie wha kie. Eh eh. Now, remembering that a few months ago that I rented a car from the airport for 40 dollars WITH insurance just pissed me off even more. So, Ok ok ok ok. After all of this I was mentally frustrated and just said, the hell with the airport rentals I'll find something when I get to Sosua.
So I settled my things in Hotel Europa and started to make my ways around. On foot! While I was walking toward Classicos from Europa. I noticed there was a car rental spot on the right hand side of the street. I was quoted 35 dollars a day (with insurance) by this cool ass dude Ricardo and he said they'll drop me to the airport when I'm done. I said no problem I'll get the car tomorrow. Next day I came back and spoke with the "jefe" and said I wanted to rent the car. Could you believe this mthrfckr told me 50 dollars per day (w insurance). I explained to him I was quoted a different price from Ricardo, to which he said sorry he couldn't help me on that price. I decided to bite the bullet and pay the 50 dollar a day rental in cash. He also explained to me that a ride to the airport is included. I took the car for three days and paid 150 up front and gave him my Credit card to which he put a security deposit of 150 on it. He said it will be returned to me once I bring the car back. Why the f did I do that. Smh!
So anyway I became cool with Ricardo he hung out with me and some friends during my stay. Even hooked me up with a chica or two. So on my last day (departure) Ricardo met me at my hotel where I was staying. While I was getting my things the "Jefe" was driving around and saw him. He told him to tell me that I have to pay an extra 20 for a ride to the airport! That piece of s-t muthrfckr I said to myself. I said to Ricardo that it was included with the rental. He said he knew that but the reason why he did that was because I'm not a Dominican and he only extends courtesy to Dominicans or cuts breaks to them. Ricardo also expressed his disgust to him as well. I'm assuming He thought I was Hatian because I am black and my other friend that came with me was Hatian and speaking Creole to him. But I am not hatian! The principal is, his word said that I'm getting a ride to the airport which is included and he lied to me rig in front of my face! So, as furious as I was, I told Ricardo to take me to the airport and I gave him gas money to fill the car up. BAD MISTAKE!
When I got home I checked my credit card statement that bastard manager didn't return my security deposit. I'm currently disputing the charge 150 dollars at that! Moral of the story. Don't rent any cars from this guy. Once again this place is located on the same side of the street as Europa but going in the direction of Classicos disco. Its on the next block after Europa right after those two bars. If any of you guys plan on goin down there or is down there now, don't waste a cent on this guy! And I would personally appreciate it if you tell the manager to go F himself and you know how he does business! Very Very Very shady character. Karma is a mother fckr!
Which going on makes me say!
I'm a believer in "good business" over the fast buck! Dominicans to me seem horrible at good marketable business! They seem to be out for the fast buck only! Completely forgetting that this can and possibly will be a returning customer in the near future. This seems to be the mentality of 80 percent of the people that do business there. I am not making a blanket statement and saying that all Dominicans are like that but I'm speaking from my experience. And my mentality adapts to everything else. For example I rent an apartment from this french lady every now and then when I visit. She hounds me to turn off the lights when I leave, but wants to charge more for air conditioner but then never changes the bed sheets? So come to think about it what exactly am I paying for? I bring my own stuff but the point that I'm trying to make is the business owner need to look at the bigger picture!
And as far as the car rental goes, how can you,
You give me a piece of shit Honda Crv with 4 bald tires running on fumes of gas, Cd player not working, ball joints worn to shit, a/c blowing cold and hot air, and steering out of alignment and expect me to take you, better yet your business seriously or even charge 50 dollars for that vehicle! Then insult me and my money by telling me I have to pay for a ride to the airport to which your piece of shit vehicle will be getting more fuel in it then what it originally had.
In my opinion that's why people have such a problem with businesses out there. Whats so hard about keeping it simple/cheap honest /and realiable?
All I want to do when I go down there is drive around in a safe reliable vehicle, fuck the biggest roundest asses that I can find, drink to my hearts content, hang out on the beach, and make new friends, and not be harassed!
That's not too much to ask! Dominican Republic can and will you ever be able to provide this for me? Most of my trips are good but never consistent! One thing always over weighs another.
Smh. Guess thats the way the cookie crumbles. My venting is done!
At the end of the day. You paid it and at every chance you had an option to say no! So whay are you complaining?
Slimtower hello, 150 for security deposit? Here's the way it works when I do it.
I always rent from Jose, hes next to Newgarden. He takes great care of his vehicles and gives me a great price with insurance. Even the insurance has a deductible which is usually 1000usd. He uses the hand credit card machine and rolls over your card. Then you sign. He then gives you back your CC and agrees to return the signed page and all carbons when the vehicle is safely returned. But you pay the daily fee in cash.
At the airport if you use a CC, they will put a hold on the deductible amount that will take 24 hours to release after you've returned the car. Sometimes you can pay extra to have a zero deductible but they will still put a hold on your card sometimes. Thats why I stopped using the big boys.
The 150 you paid as a deposit shouldve been returned with all paper work. Did they have an electronic CC machine? Did you get any final paper work? And why did you keep dealing with them after they lied about the airport drop off?
[QUOTE=Slimtower]So, I haven't posted in this forum in a while because most of the information tends to be repetitive but I feel the need to post about a recent untasteful experience in Sosua (amongst other things). Once I landed, I had a friend waiting to pick me up from the airport. My stay was planned to be a short one and I really didn't want to take a taxi or motoconcho everywhere. So I decided I wanted to rent a car for a few days. The first quote I was quoted at the airport was 70 dollars per day with insurance. Lmfao. Are you serious was my reaction. No thanks I'll find something cheaper. Next company quoted 60, and the original one then told me 55. Then some guy is draggin by my arm and in my face saying what kind of car you need wha kie wha kie. Eh eh. Now, remembering that a few months ago that I rented a car from the airport for 40 dollars WITH insurance just pissed me off even more. So, Ok ok ok ok. After all of this I was mentally frustrated and just said, the hell with the airport rentals I'll find something when I get to Sosua.
So I settled my things in Hotel Europa and started to make my ways around. On foot! While I was walking toward Classicos from Europa. I noticed there was a car rental spot on the right hand side of the street. I was quoted 35 dollars a day (with insurance) by this cool ass dude Ricardo and he said they'll drop me to the airport when I'm done. I said no problem I'll get the car tomorrow. Next day I came back and spoke with the "jefe" and said I wanted to rent the car. Could you believe this mthrfckr told me 50 dollars per day (w insurance). I explained to him I was quoted a different price from Ricardo, to which he said sorry he couldn't help me on that price. I decided to bite the bullet and pay the 50 dollar a day rental in cash. He also explained to me that a ride to the airport is included. I took the car for three days and paid 150 up front and gave him my Credit card to which he put a security deposit of 150 on it. He said it will be returned to me once I bring the car back. Why the f did I do that. Smh!
So anyway I became cool with Ricardo he hung out with me and some friends during my stay. Even hooked me up with a chica or two. So on my last day (departure) Ricardo met me at my hotel where I was staying. While I was getting my things the "Jefe" was driving around and saw him. He told him to tell me that I have to pay an extra 20 for a ride to the airport! That piece of s-t muthrfckr I said to myself. I said to Ricardo that it was included with the rental. He said he knew that but the reason why he did that was because I'm not a Dominican and he only extends courtesy to Dominicans or cuts breaks to them. Ricardo also expressed his disgust to him as well. I'm assuming He thought I was Hatian because I am black and my other friend that came with me was Hatian and speaking Creole to him. But I am not hatian! The principal is, his word said that I'm getting a ride to the airport which is included and he lied to me rig in front of my face! So, as furious as I was, I told Ricardo to take me to the airport and I gave him gas money to fill the car up. BAD MISTAKE!
When I got home I checked my credit card statement that bastard manager didn't return my security deposit. I'm currently disputing the charge 150 dollars at that! Moral of the story. Don't rent any cars from this guy. Once again this place is located on the same side of the street as Europa but going in the direction of Classicos disco. Its on the next block after Europa right after those two bars. If any of you guys plan on goin down there or is down there now, don't waste a cent on this guy! And I would personally appreciate it if you tell the manager to go F himself and you know how he does business! Very Very Very shady character. Karma is a mother fckr!
Which going on makes me say!
I'm a believer in "good business" over the fast buck! Dominicans to me seem horrible at good marketable business! They seem to be out for the fast buck only! Completely forgetting that this can and possibly will be a returning customer in the near future. This seems to be the mentality of 80 percent of the people that do business there. I am not making a blanket statement and saying that all Dominicans are like that but I'm speaking from my experience. And my mentality adapts to everything else. For example I rent an apartment from this french lady every now and then when I visit. She hounds me to turn off the lights when I leave, but wants to charge more for air conditioner but then never changes the bed sheets? So come to think about it what exactly am I paying for? I bring my own stuff but the point that I'm trying to make is the business owner need to look at the bigger picture!
And as far as the car rental goes, how can you,
You give me a piece of shit Honda Crv with 4 bald tires running on fumes of gas, Cd player not working, ball joints worn to shit, a/c blowing cold and hot air, and steering out of alignment and expect me to take you, better yet your business seriously or even charge 50 dollars for that vehicle! Then insult me and my money by telling me I have to pay for a ride to the airport to which your piece of shit vehicle will be getting more fuel in it then what it originally had.
In my opinion that's why people have such a problem with businesses out there. Whats so hard about keeping it simple/cheap honest /and realiable?
All I want to do when I go down there is drive around in a safe reliable vehicle, fuck the biggest roundest asses that I can find, drink to my hearts content, hang out on the beach, and make new friends, and not be harassed!
That's not too much to ask! Dominican Republic can and will you ever be able to provide this for me? Most of my trips are good but never consistent! One thing always over weighs another.
Smh. Guess thats the way the cookie crumbles. My venting is done![/QUOTE]Yea dominicans are the worse pple to do business with I hate to say. I heard its best to deal with the name brand companies if you rent a car in d. R. The moms and pops will pop you. LOL
I always rent from adventure, its not dirt cheap , its around 60.00 bucks a day, but i have never had a problem and the car was always beat up a little but was always clean inside and ran well. I dont like renting stuff from some retart and once i was lied to I would have never rented the car even if i had to pay more somewhere else'
[QUOTE=Slimtower]So, I haven't posted in this forum in a while because most of the information tends to be repetitive but I feel the need to post about a recent untasteful experience in Sosua (amongst other things). Once I landed, I had a friend waiting to pick me up from the airport. My stay was planned to be a short one and I really didn't want to take a taxi or motoconcho everywhere. So I decided I wanted to rent a car for a few days. The first quote I was quoted at the airport was 70 dollars per day with insurance. Lmfao. Are you serious was my reaction. No thanks I'll find something cheaper. Next company quoted 60, and the original one then told me 55. Then some guy is draggin by my arm and in my face saying what kind of car you need wha kie wha kie. Eh eh. Now, remembering that a few months ago that I rented a car from the airport for 40 dollars WITH insurance just pissed me off even more. So, Ok ok ok ok. After all of this I was mentally frustrated and just said, the hell with the airport rentals I'll find something when I get to Sosua.
So I settled my things in Hotel Europa and started to make my ways around. On foot! While I was walking toward Classicos from Europa. I noticed there was a car rental spot on the right hand side of the street. I was quoted 35 dollars a day (with insurance) by this cool ass dude Ricardo and he said they'll drop me to the airport when I'm done. I said no problem I'll get the car tomorrow. Next day I came back and spoke with the "jefe" and said I wanted to rent the car. Could you believe this mthrfckr told me 50 dollars per day (w insurance). I explained to him I was quoted a different price from Ricardo, to which he said sorry he couldn't help me on that price. I decided to bite the bullet and pay the 50 dollar a day rental in cash. He also explained to me that a ride to the airport is included. I took the car for three days and paid 150 up front and gave him my Credit card to which he put a security deposit of 150 on it. He said it will be returned to me once I bring the car back. Why the f did I do that. Smh!
So anyway I became cool with Ricardo he hung out with me and some friends during my stay. Even hooked me up with a chica or two. So on my last day (departure) Ricardo met me at my hotel where I was staying. While I was getting my things the "Jefe" was driving around and saw him. He told him to tell me that I have to pay an extra 20 for a ride to the airport! That piece of s-t muthrfckr I said to myself. I said to Ricardo that it was included with the rental. He said he knew that but the reason why he did that was because I'm not a Dominican and he only extends courtesy to Dominicans or cuts breaks to them. Ricardo also expressed his disgust to him as well. I'm assuming He thought I was Hatian because I am black and my other friend that came with me was Hatian and speaking Creole to him. But I am not hatian! The principal is, his word said that I'm getting a ride to the airport which is included and he lied to me rig in front of my face! So, as furious as I was, I told Ricardo to take me to the airport and I gave him gas money to fill the car up. BAD MISTAKE!
When I got home I checked my credit card statement that bastard manager didn't return my security deposit. I'm currently disputing the charge 150 dollars at that! Moral of the story. Don't rent any cars from this guy. Once again this place is located on the same side of the street as Europa but going in the direction of Classicos disco. Its on the next block after Europa right after those two bars. If any of you guys plan on goin down there or is down there now, don't waste a cent on this guy! And I would personally appreciate it if you tell the manager to go F himself and you know how he does business! Very Very Very shady character. Karma is a mother fckr!
Which going on makes me say!
I'm a believer in "good business" over the fast buck! Dominicans to me seem horrible at good marketable business! They seem to be out for the fast buck only! Completely forgetting that this can and possibly will be a returning customer in the near future. This seems to be the mentality of 80 percent of the people that do business there. I am not making a blanket statement and saying that all Dominicans are like that but I'm speaking from my experience. And my mentality adapts to everything else. For example I rent an apartment from this french lady every now and then when I visit. She hounds me to turn off the lights when I leave, but wants to charge more for air conditioner but then never changes the bed sheets? So come to think about it what exactly am I paying for? I bring my own stuff but the point that I'm trying to make is the business owner need to look at the bigger picture!
And as far as the car rental goes, how can you,
You give me a piece of shit Honda Crv with 4 bald tires running on fumes of gas, Cd player not working, ball joints worn to shit, a/c blowing cold and hot air, and steering out of alignment and expect me to take you, better yet your business seriously or even charge 50 dollars for that vehicle! Then insult me and my money by telling me I have to pay for a ride to the airport to which your piece of shit vehicle will be getting more fuel in it then what it originally had.
In my opinion that's why people have such a problem with businesses out there. Whats so hard about keeping it simple/cheap honest /and realiable?
All I want to do when I go down there is drive around in a safe reliable vehicle, fuck the biggest roundest asses that I can find, drink to my hearts content, hang out on the beach, and make new friends, and not be harassed!
That's not too much to ask! Dominican Republic can and will you ever be able to provide this for me? Most of my trips are good but never consistent! One thing always over weighs another.
Smh. Guess thats the way the cookie crumbles. My venting is done![/QUOTE]
just returned from another great trip to sosua......my pics are in the photo section for your review.
contacted the sosua beach resort just a few days from my arrival and made my reservation via email. as you may already know, the "beach resort" is essentially just the mongering section of the sosua bay hotel. $50 a night for a garden view room, breakfast included.....i think this place is perfect, second time i've stayed there.....it is part of an all inclusive but you get a white wristband and not all the all inclusive stuff, but who wants that anyway?? you still get the run of the hotel, it's right on the beach, a great property with great security and very quiet at night for rest. wifi works great in the lobby, but not in the rooms. best deal in town, my opinion. very chica friendly, but you must use the "mongering entrance" with chicas in the evening.
i did take a tour through tierre linde while i was there, just to see it.....very nice, but more expensive and not right on the beach. it would be my second choice.
the sosua bay seemed pretty empty as did most of the hotels in town....still tons of chicas available, both dominican and haitiano, especially in the evening, and didn't see any hassles from the local police, although the girls all told me there had been problems. it is definitely a buyers market right now, the mongers have the leverage.
i do some scuba diving every time i go to sosua and was glad to see the dive shop at sosua bay had reopened (closed last time i was there) with new u.s. owners, chuck and wendy.....did some great wreck diving on the zingara wreck and had a chance to learn how to spearfish and kill some of the invasive lionfish that have infested all caribbean waters in the past 10 years.....this was really a blast and i would highly recommend it!! i don't mean to shill for a dive shop, but i know a lot of visiting mongers have little to do in the morning or afternoon.....you can take an intro to scuba class for only $65 and a full certification course for $350; a really excellent deal, and the cert is for life....the new shop is called superior dive in sosua, and i highly recommend them.
i searched for chicas in all the usual spots along the main drag, took some to my hotel and some to the calypso; a "short time" hotel with rooms for 400 rd (around $11). the calypso is kind of a dump, sometimes the water wasn't even running and had to use a big bucket of cold water to rinse off with prior to the fun......pretty funny to watch the chicas pouring cold water on themselves with a big ladle.....until i realized that some of them probably have to do this all the time!!.....i'd like to find a better alternative for hourly rooms if anyone has some suggestions.....in fact, i'd really like to find a place to take chicas to who just don't have the required cedulas, if anyone has some suggestions.......not going for ****, but some of the locals and the haitianos either don't have them or only have a paper copy, and the sosua bay just would not accept anything but the plastic copy in excellent shape.
i found the chicas asking for 2000 rd initially, the usual intial asking price, but i usually got them to 1500 rd or even less if it was early in the day (i like to get my first chica at around noon time right after diving). the talent varied from excellent to just average....as usual, i found the best overall service came from the chicas i would rate as 6-7 in looks vice the 8-10's. did some repeats with chicas i connected with. service usually included dfk, bbbj and full service in mish, cowboy and doggie. i really like 69, but found some of the chicas had really bad pussy odor, even after i scrubbed them thoroughly in the shower!! go figure!! the best looking chicas don't always like to kiss, either, a downer for me.
i took one chica to her own little room and it was quite the adventure, third world experience, not for the faint of heart, but it was still fun. i would not recommend that unless you are pretty street wise and ready to rumble; absolutely no security in that situation, but she couldn't get iinto my hotel with her paper copy cedula and she turned out to be one of the most fun and enthusiastic chicas i met there.
checked out passions one night and i was very impressed with all the new construction....years ago that place was just another open air bar with a few rooms in back; now it's all neon and glitter and very classy looking....the chicas there are all 8-10's, but i didn't partake as i was not in the mood and they are pretty pricey for the local area. didn't get to check out the new rooms in back, but i suspect they must be pretty nice if the rest of the place is any indication. you can negotiate better in town, but if the price is no factor, probably not a bad deal.....they have all night take out options, too!!
for dinner i did la roca one night, bailey's one night (really nice place!!) and barbecue chicken and platanos from a street vendor one night (not such a good idea....got a little sick).....also some great italian pasta from a place close to the jolly roger that was superb!!
overall, another excellent trip to sosua...........perhaps not the supreme mongering destiination in the world, but you can't beat the convenience and proximity to the u.s. at a location that includes a nice beach and a variety of ocean sports.
thanks as always to previous posters who have shared info with me!! i would really appreciate some suggestions for hotels/apartments that do not require cedulas.........happy mongering!!
[QUOTE=Zip Head]...Contacted the Sosua Beach Resort just a few days from my arrival and made my reservation via email. As you may already know, the "Beach Resort" is essentially just the mongering section of the Sosua Bay Hotel. $50 a night for a garden view room, breakfast included.....I think this place is perfect, second time I've stayed there.....it is part of an all inclusive but you get a white wristband and not all the all inclusive stuff, but who wants that anyway?? You still get the run of the hotel, it's right on the beach, a great property with great security and very QUIET at night for rest. WIFI works great in the lobby, but not in the rooms. Best deal in town, my opinion. Very chica friendly, but you must use the "mongering entrance" with chicas in the evening...[/QUOTE]Great trip report! It sounds like you had an excellent time! I cannot agree more when it comes to extra-curricular ocean activities. I got PADI certified a few years in Juan Dolio. I love the women; however, if one is the Caribbean, one has to take advantage of all of its benefits. Spearfishing sounds like a blast and I would love to learn. Please post or PM the web page for that. Also, great hotel information!
Thanks,
Helpmann :)
Hey nice report from zip head. I am also going to sosua bay hotel on dec 20-23rd, hotel look nice. You mention it is a chica friendly. Do they charge any extra money to bring the chicas? All nighters are fine with the hotel managments? Just want so make sure so I proceed my selections of chica when I get there.
Take care
[QUOTE=Zip Head]I do some scuba diving every time I go to Sosua and was glad to see the dive shop at Sosua Bay had reopened (closed last time I was there) with new U.S. owners, Chuck and Wendy.....did some great wreck diving on the Zingara wreck and had a chance to learn how to spearfish and kill some of the invasive lionfish that have infested all Caribbean waters in the past 10 years.....this was really a BLAST and I would highly recommend it!! [/quote]
Great report, Zip Head - spearfishing, eh? That sounds cool, and it should indeed be 'open season' on the Caribbean lionfish. They are nasty customers, even if they are photogenic.
Good to hear about another scuba operation in Sosua. I made no bones about my shill for Scuba Elite, a couple of weeks ago; I am glad to know about another top-notch dive shop, just in case Kerrie is out of town next time I visit Sosua.
Sounds like you were quite adventurous beyond the diving. Good for you! And thanks for your report!
[QUOTE=Zip Head]Just returned from another great trip to Sosua......my pics are in the photo section for your review. [/QUOTE]Very nice. The flaca in your room in the Sosua Bay Hotel, smooth skin, no stretch marks, attractive chica.
Waiting in a line at a hotel to check in a chica so she can visit your room can be annoying. You may want to consider renting an apartment in Sosua for a future trip. Large refrigerator and gas stove, you can prepare your own food or get one of your novias to cook for you.
[quote=zip head]
i searched for chicas in all the usual spots along the main drag, took some to my hotel and some to the calypso; a "short time" hotel with rooms for 400 rd (around $11). the calypso is kind of a dump, sometimes the water wasn't even running and had to use a big bucket of cold water to rinse off with prior to the fun......pretty funny to watch the chicas pouring cold water on themselves with a big ladle.....until i realized that some of them probably have to do this all the time!!.....i'd like to find a better alternative for hourly rooms if anyone has some suggestions.....in fact, i'd really like to find a place to take chicas to who just don't have the required cedulas, if anyone has some suggestions.......not going for ****, but some of the locals and the haitianos either don't have them or only have a paper copy, and the sosua bay just would not accept anything but the plastic copy in excellent shape.
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try the cabana love n care. on the road to cabarete on the outskirts of sosua. if i remember correctly, 600p for un rato. very nice with hot water, a/c, and very comfy bed.
[QUOTE=Zip Head]
I searched for chicas in all the usual spots along the main drag, took some to my hotel and some to the Calypso; a "short time" hotel with rooms for 400 RD (around $11). The Calypso is kind of a dump, sometimes the water wasn't even running and had to use a big bucket of cold water to rinse off with prior to the fun......pretty funny to watch the chicas pouring cold water on themselves with a big ladle.....until I realized that some of them probably have to do this all the time!!.....
The Sosua Bay seemed pretty empty as did most of the hotels in town....still tons of chicas available, both Dominican and Haitiano, especially in the evening, and didn't see any hassles from the local police, although the girls all told me there had been problems. It is definitely a buyer’s market right now, the mongers have the leverage.
Overall, another excellent trip to Sosua...........perhaps not the supreme mongering destiination in the world, but you can't beat the convenience and proximity to the U.S. at a location that includes a nice beach and a variety of ocean sports.
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Using a big bucket of cold water to rinse off with prior to the fun is a major “DR Fantasy” buzz kill. I came back out of lurker status for that one. Dude, that is fucked and beyond slumming :-{
But I am glad you had fun and thanks for your photo contribution to the photo gallery. P.S. It’s “Hatitana.” When you say “Hatiano” we may begin to think you were on a different kind of mongering trip, lol :-}
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Did a run early October last month. First and last time coming and being with only one chica the entire time. I now see that it is a complete waste to fly all the way over there and to be with only one chica when you have literally hundreds of chicas just begging for you to take them. I initially only agreed to do this with said Haitiana because she is very GFE and I figured it would be a good way to save some money.
I arrived there on Thursday. By Saturday morning I was hunting for places such as Rocky’s and NG trying to book a room to sneak off to later with another chica. The Hatiana had left for the morning to check on her hijo. After walking around (after eating what I found out was called “alitas de pollo frito” for lunch (chicken wings in Spanish. I know what chicken wings are; I just didn’t know how to order them in Spanish. They (Terra Linda) kept giving me the chicken they use for La Bandera. I had to go into the kitchen and point out the chicken parts I was looking for, lol). Checked out the room at Rocky’s. Not great, but good enough for ST. Do not like that they require a deposit. Left to check out rates for rooms in the old wing at NG. $55 USD per day. Decide on the room at Rocky’s since the price was lower and they give you your deposit back. Go to the store and buy some soap. Go back to the room to get the money for Rocky’s, condoms, and lube. Put everything in the plastic bag. Just as I am about to reach for the door handle: “BOOM, BOOM, BOOM!!!” It’s the Haitiana banging on the door like she’s the fucking police. She also had her sister with her. I think she brought her along in case she caught me in the room with another chica and they probably would have either jumped on her on me. I immediately throw all my shit back in the closet. Operation “Double-book”: Fail.
Terra Linda is still my favorite hotel. All you need is the single queen for $69. It was nice to have the King size room when it was going for the promotional rate of $55 back in May. The internet was out the first day I was there. I saw one guy on here saying he was going to write a complaint, lol. I asked them about it and they said the company would come out the next day. The thing about Terra Linda is that when their internet works, it REALLY works! Had no problems with it the rest of the trip. Also mostly ate in the restaurant at Terra Linda as well (except for breakfast. I usually entrust Bailey’s with this task). It’s a damn shame you have to hop across the pond to get a decent mojito. The chica that works behind the bar at the TL restaurant made the Mojito so damn good that I was even eating the mint sprigs! The ribs at Terra Linda are a little better than the ones at Rocky’s IMO. We also ordered room service, but they tack on 60 pesos to your food bill. You have to remind them to come back for the dishes though. I guess they sent the guy to the wrong room when I called because no one ever showed. Me and the Haitiana ended up walking them up to the restaurant. I also like to hear the music down near the pool while showering (the bathroom window is open by default). Almost every time I’ve stayed at TL it seems that the New Yorkers take over the music in the evening. You really get a chance to hear some real old skool East Coast hip hop.
I still like New Garden, but I like that Terra Linda only lets the chicas hang around the hotel when it is happy hour. At New Garden they have chicas hanging around all day. They talk to fucking much, lol. The Haitiana claimed that her amiga told her that I fucked some other Haitiana back in March of this year when I stayed at NG. I don’t even remember who the fuck she is even talking about, lol.
Tipico Alberto's is also still a goo place to eat. I always get the Tacos Suave. Good priced too. Nice place to sit at night and watch the chicas and other folks walk by.
Saw mongers and chicas that I saw from back in March 2009. Felt kinda silly telling some of my regulars that I couldn’t go to the room with them because I already had a chica in there. Found out a new strategy though: I noticed the tigres will leave you alone if you tell them you already have a girlfriend.
Seriously, what’s up with the police out in front of El flow with shotguns drawn at night. It’s not that fucking serious. I understand Sosua had a female mayor now?
Anyway, this is the last time I will ever walk into Classico’s, do an entire lap around the inside and walk out empty handed because I already have another chica in my room. No mas!
All in all, October was kinda quite, but still lots of nice looking chicas around. Things got started much later than they usually do during peak season.
QUESTION: Dominicana from a little while ago. Anyone know the story on this chica? You would know if you had been with her. Did you also get the GFE Glenn Close Fatal Attraction Experience as well? Supposed to be a lesbiana, flipped the fuck out when she found out that I was leaving the next day when I had already told her this earlier. Apparently she thought I meant “Next Sunday.”
Savepros, damn boy I was about to put out an APB( all points bulletin) for you. I thought maybe your sex prison (American) girl had burned your passport.
That Haitiana must have some good pussy to reduce you to lurker status. I can see you sneaking into the local internet cafe in full Groucho Marx (mustache, glasses, eyebrows) attire.
Welcome back to the game bro.
Heres a video i posted in Mr Gogo forum but someone said since the NG beauty contest is in it along with BB bikini contest to post it in Sosua section also.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtD4kzDMsg8[/url]
[QUOTE=Love Bite]Hey nice report from zip head. I am also going to sosua bay hotel on dec 20-23rd, hotel look nice. You mention it is a chica friendly. Do they charge any extra money to bring the chicas? All nighters are fine with the hotel managments?[/QUOTE]There is no joiner fee. All-nighters are fine. But if you take one to the breakfast buffet in the morning it is an extra US$13.
[QUOTE=Zip Head]I do some scuba diving every time I go to Sosua and was glad to see the dive shop at Sosua Bay had reopened (closed last time I was there) with new U.S. owners, Chuck and Wendy.....did some great wreck diving on the Zingara wreck and had a chance to learn how to spearfish and kill some of the invasive lionfish that have infested all Caribbean waters in the past 10 years.....this was really a BLAST and I would highly recommend it!! [/QUOTE]I still haven't gotten a chance to do any diving in the DR. I have noticed though that the shops down there sell equipment at some of the lowest prices I have seen in the world. Zip how much was it for the fun dive?
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]Heres a video i posted in Mr Gogo forum but someone said since the NG beauty contest is in it along with BB bikini contest to post it in Sosua section also.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtD4kzDMsg8[/url][/QUOTE]
Thank You Mr Gogo
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]Savepros, damn boy I was about to put out an APB( all points bulletin) for you. I thought maybe your sex prison (American) girl had burned your passport.
That Haitiana must have some good pussy to reduce you to lurker status. I can see you sneaking into the local internet cafe in full Groucho Marx (mustache, glasses, eyebrows) attire.
Welcome back to the game bro.[/QUOTE]
For a while we were having people come to the forum, ask questions (without RTFF first), and (if they ended up going to DR) never coming back on the board to share info or pics. With that, I just decided to keep info to myself and to only hit up contributing mongers via PM.
Jamebrown9 and Ziphead with their contributions to the photo gallery and Zip head's trip report gave me someone hope that the forum could return to greatness once again, lol!
I've actually been lurking in the MDE forum for a bit (I also see you've got a couple of those trips under your belt). As long as they've got some Colombianas with ass and hips on them like the chicas in DR then I may look into finding me second place to call home. I don't call the US, aka "sex prison" home anymore. I'm just here to work, lol.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]I still haven't gotten a chance to do any diving in the DR. I have noticed though that the shops down there sell equipment at some of the lowest prices I have seen in the world. Zip how much was it for the fun dive?[/QUOTE]
$70 for a two tank dive; I brought my own gear, so think it would be a bit extra if you had to rent stuff.....but the Superior Dive in Sosua shop has really excellent rental gear.
Bud Selig you want to improve your ratings next year? je je
[url]http://egotvonline.com/2010/11/05/dominican-baseball-cheerleaders/[/url]
Some real delish fat asses here fellas!
[QUOTE=SavePros321]For a while we were having people come to the forum, ask questions (without RTFF first), and (if they ended up going to DR) never coming back on the board to share info or pics. With that, I just decided to keep info to myself and to only hit up contributing mongers via PM.
Jamebrown9 and Ziphead with their contributions to the photo gallery and Zip head's trip report gave me someone hope that the forum could return to greatness once again, lol!
I've actually been lurking in the MDE forum for a bit (I also see you've got a couple of those trips under your belt). As long as they've got some Colombianas with ass and hips on them like the chicas in DR then I may look into finding me second place to call home. I don't call the US, aka "sex prison" home anymore. I'm just here to work, lol.[/QUOTE]Your comments are point on. I always fell like I'm giving ten times as much as I'm getting back. But as BQ ribs told me " the few friends you do make and exchanging info via PM makes it worth it".
The Colombianas don't have ass and hips like the Dominicanas, but they make up for it with lady like qualities and beauty. I've been offered a business opportunity in Colombia and will probaly be moving there next year. People talk about the crime element in Colombia, but if you stay away from the drug culture, mind your own business, and remain low key nobody pays you any attention.
[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver]Bud Selig you want to improve your ratings next year? je je
[url]http://egotvonline.com/2010/11/05/dominican-baseball-cheerleaders/[/url]
Some real delish fat asses here fellas![/QUOTE]
Us Santo Domingo guys may have lost our SW but we still have el béisbol. The best part about Dominican baseball is chica watching. Between every inning the cheerleaders dance on top of the dugout and you don't want to miss it.
Sorry about the blurry pics but them chicas just shake, shake, shake too fast, fast, fast for my camera.
[QUOTE=SavePros321]For a while we were having people come to the forum, ask questions (without RTFF first), and (if they ended up going to DR) never coming back on the board to share info or pics........[/QUOTE]I hear you but that is pretty much the same on most message boards. People will soak up all the info they can but won't as much as come back after their trip with a thank you. I often look at the "view count" on photos posted but very, very few, if any, will bother to post a comment. What bugs me is that the Dominican Republic forums are usually without any flame wars so why are lurkers afraid to post?
[QUOTE=SavePros321].....Jamebrown9 and Ziphead with their contributions to the photo gallery and Zip head's trip report gave me someone hope that the forum could return to greatness once again, lol!......[/QUOTE]The newbie reports are always the best and most entertaining. Us old timer vets can get boring after awhile. Vets can tell you what time the casas close, where to eat, taxi fares but the newbies' reports will keep you laughing. I still remember how I used to look forward to the next episode of Coolie High's trip.
SavePros321 only time will tell but it would be nice for those who don't post to start.
[QUOTE=Bq Ribs]Us Santo Domingo guys may have lost our SW but we still have el béisbol. The best part about Dominican baseball is chica watching. Between every inning the cheerleaders dance on top of the dugout and you don't want to miss it.
Sorry about the blurry pics but them chicas just shake, shake, shake too fast, fast, fast for my camera.[/QUOTE]
The first pic, shes not my type and needs a shave, the other 2 pics just amazing! lol
I'm returning to Sosua for the third time Nov 27-Dec 4. The New Garden has a king bed room available for $55 (**** cash rate) including tax and breakfast. I'm assuming it is in the older part. D'Piero has a 1 bedroom (king?)for $50 or a large room (king?)for $40 available including tax, breakfast and airport transfers. Some of D'Piero's safes are keyed some electronic. I believe all rooms at the NG have electronic safes, a big plus in my book. I enjoyed my previous stays at the NG but D'Piero's rate is very attractive and it looks nice on their website.
Any recommendations or suggestions? Pros/cons especially from guys who have stayed at both establishments would be appreciated.
Headed to Sousa for the first time, 5 nights at the NG, starting on November 19th. I have been reading the reports from this board, as well as sending PMs to various members. I can only say that I appreciate all the information that I have gathered thus far, from many of the ISG members on the forum and through PMs. I also gathered information from the Teflon Monger, and I am thankful of that as well; nice blog and Web site.
Having said that, I'm a true believer that one cannot have enough information and could always use more. So if anyone is there the same time frame, I would enjoy buying a couple of rounds and picking your brains for more insight on what Sousa has to offer. I love the beach laid-back lifestyle, and that explains why I like Rio and Pattaya so much.
The only question I have at this point is; Is there one place better than another to exchange dollars for pesos?
Looking forward to the trip and meeting some of you as well!
Howdy gents,
I'll be flying down in a few weeks for my first visit to the DR. I love massages and need to know the ones that have happy endings down there in Puerto Plata and Sosua. Hope you guys can help. Thanks!
Kaiju
[QUOTE=Tomjackin]Headed to Sousa for the first time, 5 nights at the NG, starting on November 19th. I have been reading the reports from this board, as well as sending PMs to various members. I can only say that I appreciate all the information that I have gathered thus far, from many of the ISG members on the forum and through PMs. I also gathered information from the Teflon Monger, and I am thankful of that as well; nice blog and Web site.
Having said that, I'm a true believer that one cannot have enough information and could always use more. So if anyone is there the same time frame, I would enjoy buying a couple of rounds and picking your brains for more insight on what Sousa has to offer. I love the beach laid-back lifestyle, and that explains why I like Rio and Pattaya so much.
The only question I have at this point is; Is there one place better than another to exchange dollars for pesos?
Looking forward to the trip and meeting some of you as well![/QUOTE]
I'll be in a couple days after you at NG. For cambios, I always use one of two different store fronts. The best is hard to find. When you exit NG go right to the corner and make a left. Pass Bailey's restaurant and the Banco Popular. The next corner is a small plaza of shops including the Orange store. Go to the back of the plaza and enter an unmarked blue door. inside is a gate and if you wait a second, they'll buzz you in. I consistently get the best rates there.
In the alternative, bear to the left when you pass Bailey's and just before you get to the Happy Bar, on the left is a money exchange.
Lastly, you can also exchange money when you buy groceries at the Supermercado Playero. Pay in dollars and they'll convert. Used to be the best rate but now it's always just below.
Remember, the rates go down on weekends and the ATMs tend to run out of money so stock up on Friday.
[QUOTE=Koki9290]I'll be in a couple days after you at NG. For cambios, I always use one of two different store fronts. The best is hard to find. When you exit NG go right to the corner and make a left. Pass Bailey's restaurant and the Banco Popular. The next corner is a small plaza of shops including the Orange store. Go to the back of the plaza and enter an unmarked blue door. inside is a gate and if you wait a second, they'll buzz you in. I consistently get the best rates there.
In the alternative, bear to the left when you pass Bailey's and just before you get to the Happy Bar, on the left is a money exchange.
Lastly, you can also exchange money when you buy groceries at the Supermercado Playero. Pay in dollars and they'll convert. Used to be the best rate but now it's always just below.
Remember, the rates go down on weekends and the ATMs tend to run out of money so stock up on Friday.[/QUOTE]
The guy with the baseball cap walking along the beach, I don't know his name but he is the only one. Consistently always gives the best rate.. A few months back he was giving me 36.80 while every was getting 36.50 at the hotels and the guys screaming CHANGE CHANGE by the Verizon place.
[QUOTE=Koki9290]In the alternative, bear to the left when you pass Bailey's and just before you get to the Happy Bar, on the left is a money exchange.[/QUOTE]I found this money exchange to have the best rates in June. Clean, secure and busy. Never had a problem and I exhanged dollars every couple of days.
Last visit was Jan '08. It was my first visit to Sosua, but my second time in the DR. Big shout out to Mr. GoGo! We didn't get a chance to hang out due to flight issues landing, but if we happen to be there around the same time...drinks are on me.
I enjoyed my stay at the NG. I have nothing negative to say about the place. It was a great choice.
I'm looking for suggestions on when is a better time to visit. I am currently looking at the early part of June. It seems like it marks the end of the rainy season. I plan to stay much longer this time around and I want to do some exploring/excursions other than bangin Chicas.
I am curious about opinions about Chica quality and quantity around the time I arrive. I also welcome suggestions on activities to pass time. Finally, I'm thinking of renting a car and maybe a house this time.
Many thanks!
[QUOTE=Always Horny #2]Last visit was Jan '08. It was my first visit to Sosua, but my second time in the DR. Big shout out to Mr. GoGo! We didn't get a chance to hang out due to flight issues landing, but if we happen to be there around the same time. Drinks are on me.
I enjoyed my stay at the NG. I have nothing negative to say about the place. It was a great choice.
I'm looking for suggestions on when is a better time to visit. I am currently looking at the early part of June. It seems like it marks the end of the rainy season. I plan to stay much longer this time around and I want to do some exploring/excursions other than bangin Chicas.
I am curious about opinions about Chica quality and quantity around the time I arrive. I also welcome suggestions on activities to pass time. Finally, I'm thinking of renting a car and maybe a house this time.
Many thanks![/QUOTE] That was the trip from hell. I was visiting a girl in Tampa. Well I get a pre recorded phone call at 6am that my American flight at 9am was cancelled. My connecting flight from MIA to POP was at 1:20pm out of MIA. I get on the phone and Continental has a 10: am to MIA for 150usd. The plane was like a big coffin with nine seats and two propellers. The flight wasnt bad and you actually get to see the pilot land as I was looking over his shoulder.
I get to MIA and meet Always Horney and we board the 1:20 to POP. We get all the way to POP and the pilot can't land because of weather. So we fly in cicles for two hours while the flight awaits orders from Houston. They send us back to MIA and everyone has to stand in line for changes. Some people opted for the SD plane at 8:30pm. I said fuck it and American later gave me a 400 dollar voucher.
I was wondering what ever happened to you. You still drinking Patron? And the trip report you posted about catching the wrong bus to nowhere was funny. Keep me posted on your dates.
[QUOTE=Tomjackin]Headed to Sousa for the first time, 5 nights at the NG, starting on November 19th. I have been reading the reports from this board, as well as sending PMs to various members. I can only say that I appreciate all the information that I have gathered thus far, from many of the ISG members on the forum and through PMs. I also gathered information from the Teflon Monger, and I am thankful of that as well; nice blog and Web site.
Having said that, I'm a true believer that one cannot have enough information and could always use more. So if anyone is there the same time frame, I would enjoy buying a couple of rounds and picking your brains for more insight on what Sousa has to offer. I love the beach laid-back lifestyle, and that explains why I like Rio and Pattaya so much.
The only question I have at this point is; Is there one place better than another to exchange dollars for pesos?
Looking forward to the trip and meeting some of you as well![/QUOTE]
I will be in Sosua November 14-23. Not staying at NG this time around but will be dropping by to see who's there. New Garden is always a good choice, especially for a first timer. You'll see what I mean when you reflect on your trip.
[QUOTE=Tomjackin]Headed to Sousa for the first time, 5 nights at the NG, starting on November 19th. I have been reading the reports from this board, as well as sending PMs to various members. I can only say that I appreciate all the information that I have gathered thus far, from many of the ISG members on the forum and through PMs. I also gathered information from the Teflon Monger, and I am thankful of that as well; nice blog and Web site.
Having said that, I'm a true believer that one cannot have enough information and could always use more. So if anyone is there the same time frame, I would enjoy buying a couple of rounds and picking your brains for more insight on what Sousa has to offer. I love the beach laid-back lifestyle, and that explains why I like Rio and Pattaya so much.
The only question I have at this point is; Is there one place better than another to exchange dollars for pesos?
Looking forward to the trip and meeting some of you as well![/QUOTE]
Exchange money at any small place in sosua. The rate is about usually the same. Also, there will be men in the streets exchanging money as well. When exiting NG go right to the end of the block. On that corner, there will probably be 2 or 3 guys exchanging money. It is safe to use this method.
Got to the exchange bank in Charimicos. It's right down the hill from the Caribe Tours bus station. It's the building next to Bon Ice Cream. They have the rate posted outside and there is nowhere on the tourist side of Sosua that can beat their rate. right now they offer 37.15 or better when the best you can get on the El Batey side is 37.05.
[QUOTE=Negro562]Got to the exchange bank in Charimicos. It's right down the hill from the Caribe Tours bus station. It's the building next to Bon Ice Cream. They have the rate posted outside and there is nowhere on the tourist side of Sosua that can beat their rate. right now they offer 37.15 or better when the best you can get on the El Batey side is 37.05.[/QUOTE]
Good idea. If you change US$1000 you will receive 100 pesos more than you could get in El Batey. This should pay your motoconcho fare there and back.
Hey Every body,
Well I am going to Sosua on 19th. 23rd DEC, have question about la passion. I saw take out menu on there rate sheet. Is there any extra fees the girl charges or ask after I pay take out charges? Is that fees includes every thing for the night for the girl? Any hidden charges? How many pops you are allowed with the girl? What is the take out charges iin crystal or bohen? Do I have to pay extra to the girl for the night? Do the charge extra to bring them to sosua from puerto plata? Do you know crystal website? Is there any more places like la passion in sosua / puerto plate that I need to know? What will be Sosua girls from bars or disco all nighter will cost me on average? I will appreciate if any of you guys give me some feed back. Also give me the price value in US dollars.
[QUOTE=Love Bite]Hey Every body,
Well I am going to Sosua on 19th. 23rd DEC, have question about la passion. I saw take out menu on there rate sheet. Is there any extra fees the girl charges or ask after I pay take out charges? Is that fees includes every thing for the night for the girl? Any hidden charges? How many pops you are allowed with the girl? What is the take out charges iin crystal or bohen? Do I have to pay extra to the girl for the night? Do the charge extra to bring them to sosua from puerto plata? Do you know crystal website? Is there any more places like la passion in sosua / puerto plate that I need to know? What will be Sosua girls from bars or disco all nighter will cost me on average? I will appreciate if any of you guys give me some feed back. Also give me the price value in US dollars.[/QUOTE]
You've got time to RTFF before late December, it would be very worth your while to go back and spend some time on it. None of these things has changed in a long time. It is probably not a good idea to arrange for "all night" (LT) with some chica you don't know. There is little point in transporting chicas from PP to sosua. Crystal/Bohen are overpriced venues for the same chicas. There is a similar place right next to Passions, but otherwise no similar places. There is a lot of discussion of prices that's worth reading to get a feel for it. The exchange rate is 37:1 so get used to different dollar equivalents because you will really lose money if you try to pay chicas in dollars. Generally chicas will ask you for 2K-3K and will settle for 1K to 1.5K. At 37:1, 1000 pesos (1K) is about $27. So think of 1000 as $30, 500 as $15, 100 as $3.
You will read lots of reports from guys who regret blundering in and negotiating for LT (all night) and having the chica turn out to be... no good, crazy, have to leave for 'emergency', etc etc. You can always ask her to stay longer if you really hit it off and things are going great, if you make her a larger offer in advance and you want to give her less and kick her out early she may have issues with it.
[QUOTE=Love Bite]Hey Every body,
Well I am going to Sosua on 19th. 23rd DEC, have question about la passion. I saw take out menu on there rate sheet. Is there any extra fees the girl charges or ask after I pay take out charges? Is that fees includes every thing for the night for the girl? Any hidden charges? How many pops you are allowed with the girl? What is the take out charges iin crystal or bohen? Do I have to pay extra to the girl for the night? Do the charge extra to bring them to sosua from puerto plata? Do you know crystal website? Is there any more places like la passion in sosua / puerto plate that I need to know? What will be Sosua girls from bars or disco all nighter will cost me on average? I will appreciate if any of you guys give me some feed back. Also give me the price value in US dollars.[/QUOTE]I would recommend that you read the posts here. You will find many of the answers here. If you have specific questions for La Passion, you can email them directly from their site.
There is no headaches from La Passion chicas. You pay an extra price for that service but thr stated price is it (well the girl will expect a tip for good service). The menu they bring you is exactly the same as the website. For me, that is where I like to start my early evenings. You can roll in there, have a couple of beers, then get a girl. There is no long drawn out hunt. For me, I go for the 2500 peso special on the premises. You get two pops in a decent room. Also, you need not bring the girl back to your place, and I like that.
That allows me to spend my day doing more touristy things without thinking about girls.
There is a "CMP Club" (Caribbean Men's Paradise) on the same street. They are always working on getting you in there. It is high pressure which is stupid. I can catch hotter girls on the street plus I would rather have the girl try to get me to close the deal instead of some European guy chatting me up. I will not go back there.
Do your research but just relax. If you miss the girl you wanted today remember it is not like she is going to get drafted into the NFL. There is 99.9% chance she will be here tomorrow.
[QUOTE=Negro562]Got to the exchange bank in Charimicos. It's right down the hill from the Caribe Tours bus station. It's the building next to Bon Ice Cream. They have the rate posted outside and there is nowhere on the tourist side of Sosua that can beat their rate. right now they offer 37.15 or better when the best you can get on the El Batey side is 37.05.[/QUOTE]If I don't use this plcae, my plan B is Western union, which there rate is about the same. Western Union is arcoos the street from the big super market in sosua.
[QUOTE=Love Bite]Hey Every body,
Well I am going to Sosua on 19th. 23rd DEC, have question about la passion. I saw take out menu on there rate sheet. Is there any extra fees the girl charges or ask after I pay take out charges? Is that fees includes every thing for the night for the girl? Any hidden charges? How many pops you are allowed with the girl? What is the take out charges iin crystal or bohen? Do I have to pay extra to the girl for the night? Do the charge extra to bring them to sosua from puerto plata? Do you know crystal website? Is there any more places like la passion in sosua / puerto plate that I need to know? What will be Sosua girls from bars or disco all nighter will cost me on average? I will appreciate if any of you guys give me some feed back. Also give me the price value in US dollars.[/QUOTE]Marc is right. Forget about Crystal/Bohen. There are available chicas all over Sosua. The hard part is selecting a good one.
Taking chicas out of Passions will differently increase your odds. The chicas I pulled from Passions were great. The menu price is all inclusive. I paid the bar manager 2, 500-3, 500 pesos depending on the day and time. None of the chicas tried to charge me extra. I enjoyed them so they got breakfast & a 500 peso tip in the morning
I offered the street/bar chicas 1000 peso for ST and 2000 for TLN last spring. I did not negotiate. If they refused no problem. There was always another fine chica standing behind them. Mike's suggestion of staying with ST offers is a good one. If the chica turns out to be a loser you're out $27 dollars no big deal. Just go back out and select another one. If she is a winner offer an additional 1000-1500 to stay until morning. She'll stay.
The number of pops really depends on you and the chica. For ST I expect only one, for TLN 2 or 3. I usually try for two at night and one in the morning. But it really depends on the time of night, how hard you partied, what your morning plans are, how agreeable the chica is and if you/chica are morning people.
Read the posts. You will find answers to all your questions plus a lot more usefully information. Follow the advice in the posts and you will have a great trip.
Thanks all you guys (Marc Anthony, beagle 0030, john from NJ). You guys gave some good tips for ST / LT/ about passion. I will enjoy more with knowing what to do with time and money with these girls. Good thing is I speak Spanish and do salsa dancing. For sure I will go for ST and see if she looks normal then we go from there.. What is the ratio between white /light skin to dark /tan skin ladies in sosua? Thanks again and I will put my experience when I get back.
Take care
Three very sensible replies to Love Bite from John from NJ, from Beagle 0030, and from (my favorite ISG poster) Marc Anthony. That is where this board is at its best, guys who know what they are talking about helping those less experienced for that location.
[QUOTE=Love Bite]Thanks all you guys (Marc Anthony, beagle 0030, john from NJ). You guys gave some good tips for ST / LT/ about passion. I will enjoy more with knowing what to do with time and money with these girls. Good thing is I speak Spanish and do salsa dancing. For sure I will go for ST and see if she looks normal then we go from there.. What is the ratio between white /light skin to dark /tan skin ladies in sosua? Thanks again and I will put my experience when I get back.
Take care[/QUOTE]Passions is a little up there in price, but the performance you get from the girls is great. I've beeen there 5 times myself I love it, sometime you don't feel like running around sosua looking for anything, this it's right there for you.
Is this a good time to travel to Sosua? Is the place dead because everyone stays home to be with their families? Looking to plan a trip there and not sure if this is one the dates you shouldn't plan a trip.
Lex
Great time at BB with the chicas and the miss universe contest.
Número 5 was the winner and smoking hot. Pics to be posted later.
[QUOTE=Lex460]Is this a good time to travel to Sosua? Is the place dead because everyone stays home to be with their families? Looking to plan a trip there and not sure if this is one the dates you shouldn't plan a trip.
Lex[/QUOTE]
This may help you in your search for an answer:
[b]The Seasonality of the Dominican Republic (by Helpmann)[/b]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=628183&postcount=748[/url]
His analysis deals mostly with the South Coast (Puerto Plata and Sosua are on the North Coast) but if you read the forum a few years back for around this time people are saying the same thing: avoid the DR from Christmas until after New Year's unless you have previously arranged something with a chica before going. Most of the chicas are with family around this time so you would be left holding yourself :)
On the flip side, I would say the week before and the days leading up to Christmas should be primo as chicas will be out trying to get pesos for a very Merry Christmas for the bambinos (kidz). I've even gone during the first week of December and it was still an amazing time.
[QUOTE=SavePros321]This may help you in your search for an answer:
[b]The Seasonality of the Dominican Republic (by Helpmann)[/b]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=628183&postcount=748[/url]
His analysis deals mostly with the South Coast (Puerto Plata and Sosua are on the North Coast) but if you read the forum a few years back for around this time people are saying the same thing: avoid the DR from Christmas until after New Year's unless you have previously arranged something with a chica before going. Most of the chicas are with family around this time so you would be left holding yourself :)
On the flip side, I would say the week before and the days leading up to Christmas should be primo as chicas will be out trying to get pesos for a very Merry Christmas for the bambinos (kidz). I've even gone during the first week of December and it was still an amazing time.[/QUOTE]Thanks, Pretty much the same across the board in most of the Latin countries. I.E. Costa Rica, Columbia, and now DR.
Guess I'm going to save my money, its a shame since I get that week off anyway.
Lex
[QUOTE=Beaverhunter]Exchange money at any small place in sosua. The rate is about usually the same. Also, there will be men in the streets exchanging money as well. When exiting NG go right to the end of the block. On that corner, there will probably be 2 or 3 guys exchanging money. It is safe to use this method.[/QUOTE]
Ever notice how every store clerk closely examines every large bill (500's, 1000s, and 2000s)? Ever wonder how counterfeit bills get into circulation if everyone is getting their money from banks and ATMs?
Use exchange places that have a storefront and address -- at least if there are any problems you can tell the police where you got the bills.
Also, when at the exchange bank, especially in Sosua COUNT THE MONEY before you leave. Exchange bank clerks make extra money through "innocent mistakes". You are especially vulnerable if you are tipsy and obviously having a good time.
The Man Tour Guy
themantour.net
[QUOTE=Thedrman]Ever notice how every store clerk closely examines every large bill (500's, 1000s, and 2000s)? Ever wonder how counterfeit bills get into circulation if everyone is getting their money from banks and ATMs?
Use exchange places that have a storefront and address -- at least if there are any problems you can tell the police where you got the bills.
Also, when at the exchange bank, especially in Sosua COUNT THE MONEY before you leave. Exchange bank clerks make extra money through "innocent mistakes". You are especially vulnerable if you are tipsy and obviously having a good time.
The Man Tour Guy
themantour.net[/QUOTEI am at NG now and have no problem using American money. For anything, chicas, food, bar, etc. Just don't use any large bills. 10 and 20 dollars seem to be ok.
[QUOTE=Eustisflman][QUOTE=Thedrman]Ever notice how every store clerk closely examines every large bill (500's, 1000s, and 2000s)? Ever wonder how counterfeit bills get into circulation if everyone is getting their money from banks and ATMs?
Use exchange places that have a storefront and address -- at least if there are any problems you can tell the police where you got the bills.
Also, when at the exchange bank, especially in Sosua COUNT THE MONEY before you leave. Exchange bank clerks make extra money through "innocent mistakes". You are especially vulnerable if you are tipsy and obviously having a good time.
The Man Tour Guy
themantour.net[/QUOTEI am at NG now and have no problem using American money. For anything, chicas, food, bar, etc. Just don't use any large bills. 10 and 20 dollars seem to be ok.[/QUOTE]
Yes, but you will pay more because of rounding up. They are never going to round down.
Also most locals are innumerate. They have quick brains with numbers they have learned off by heart but cannot adjust or re-calculate.
A typical example I have encountered many times is a chica quoting 50 dollars (actually around 1850 pesos). I say "I don't have dollars because I am not American but I will give you 1500 pesos". "OK, papi". This is not a chica giving you a discount, this is a chica who couldn't convert currency if her life depended on it. Had I offered her 40 dollars (near enough 1500 pesos) she would have flatly refused.
[QUOTE=Charles Pooter]Good idea. If you change US$1000 you will receive 100 pesos more than you could get in El Batey. This should pay your motoconcho fare there and back.[/QUOTE]
I am sorry this is a big deal for you but, I have a vehicle.
[QUOTE=Thedrman]Ever notice how every store clerk closely examines every large bill (500's, 1000s, and 2000s)? Ever wonder how counterfeit bills get into circulation if everyone is getting their money from banks and ATMs?
Use exchange places that have a storefront and address -- at least if there are any problems you can tell the police where you got the bills.
Also, when at the exchange bank, especially in Sosua COUNT THE MONEY before you leave. Exchange bank clerks make extra money through "innocent mistakes". You are especially vulnerable if you are tipsy and obviously having a good time.
The Man Tour Guy
themantour.net[/QUOTE]
I have exchanged money with these guys for over 5 years and never had a problem. The only time i was given counterfeit bills was at an All Enclusive in Juan Dolio. But i guess it would be safe than sorry to use a store so i don't totally disagree.
Yesterday the chicas had a meeting with the deputy major about the current situation of the chica round up. It was a small protest the was supposed to include the mayor but, she didn't show up. The chicas did a lot of protesting and expressed their grievances regarding the random arrest. After the meeting the cops were waiting outside and haul a large number of their asses to the slammer.
[QUOTE=Negro562]Yesterday the chicas had a meeting with the deputy major about the current situation of the chica round up. It was a small protest the was supposed to include the mayor but, she didn't show up. The chicas did a lot of protesting and expressed their grievances regarding the random arrest. After the meeting the cops were waiting outside and haul a large number of their asses to the slammer.[/QUOTE]A deplorable situation! Resignations are necessary !
[QUOTE=Negro562]Yesterday the chicas had a meeting with the deputy major about the current situation of the chica round up. It was a small protest the was supposed to include the mayor but, she didn't show up. The chicas did a lot of protesting and expressed their grievances regarding the random arrest. After the meeting the cops were waiting outside and haul a large number of their asses to the slammer.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't be surprised if the authorities use this Cholera thing to crack down on Haitians in Sosua. Just a couple cases in Sosua and boom, there goes the Haitian trick trade. Who benefits? No one. But the Dominicanas will be more in demand.
[QUOTE=Negro562]Yesterday the chicas had a meeting with the deputy major about the current situation of the chica round up. It was a small protest the was supposed to include the mayor but, she didn't show up. The chicas did a lot of protesting and expressed their grievances regarding the random arrest. After the meeting the cops were waiting outside and haul a large number of their asses to the slammer.[/QUOTE]
Damn, pretty soon Blackbeard's is going to be the only place on the North Coast to find some action! I'm guessing the Mayor's intent is to let the police lock the chicas up so much that they just decide to stay away from Sosua all together. Making it to be that when the gringo shows up the place is a ghost town.
Can someone who is connected to the community there comment on what is actually going on behind the scenes? I know from studying politics that people are put into power by players operating behind the scenes (i.e. Hugo Chavez, Robert Mugabe) to do thy bidding. The mayor seems to be a pawn put there to clean the place up for developers wanting to turn the place into "New Cabarete"? I wouldn't be surprised if they have plans to build a road that goes right to Cabarete and cuts right through Classicos.
It speaks volumes that the mayor did not show up at the meeting, signaling that she in fact is in favor of and possibly the one sanctioning these acts (chica lockup). Probably promised the chicas more protection from the police if elected during the campaign no doubt...
...And it's no coincidence that this is simultaneously going on in Santo Domingo as well...
Is DR becoming the new Puerto Rico?
Didn't the same thing happen in Boca Chica years ago? No real surprise. Maybe So-sewer is going the way of Boca Chica too.
Undercover cops grabbed chicas right from inside the little walk way. One heavier haitian woman decided she was wrongly grabbed and tried to put up a fight. I guess she will be back across the border by nightfall. She was trying to bite the cops and they had to bring a car to pick her ass up. I am pretty sure they gave her the business when they got her back to the station. All the women looked like they were living in fear. Man. Sosua is changing.
[QUOTE=La Isla]Didn't the same thing happen in Boca Chica years ago? No real surprise. Maybe So-sewer is going the way of Boca Chica too.[/QUOTE]
Sosua got pretty wild in the 90's and there was a major crackdown that drastically shut down open p4p for a year or so. Long enough that it significantly impacted the tourist industry in town. After that it quietly built back up.
Boca Chica picked up after Sosua was shut down and got very wild before the big crackdown there...and since then it's been relatively quiet.
When they close down a few discos it's not like the chicas pack up and leave the island.
[QUOTE=Negro562]Undercover cops grabbed chicas right from inside the little walk way. One heavier haitian woman decided she was wrongly grabbed and tried to put up a fight. I guess she will be back across the border by nightfall. She was trying to bite the cops and they had to bring a car to pick her ass up. I am pretty sure they gave her the business when they got her back to the station. All the women looked like they were living in fear. Man. Sosua is changing.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for an on the scene report. Can you give us more details on what you saw? What time of day? By the little walkway do you mean the stairs up to the disco? How many chicas taken? Mostly Haitian? Any comments by other chicas? Was it Politur? TIA.
Sosua has changed during the cocktail hour. I just returned after 5 weeks. Formerly, at the Bermuda Bar(PC + Rosen), there were many young, hot chicas there, or passing by. Today, there were none! Only a few old-timers, old, fat, and ugly chicas. The ''vermin'' are in process of destroying Sosua!
Wow. I have a trip planned in January. I'm wondering if I should cancel.
[QUOTE=Combo]Wow. I have a trip planned in January. I'm wondering if I should cancel.[/QUOTE]
I don't have an answer for you. But I am VERY CERTAIN the "powers to be" are monitoring this board and are looking for statements from more guys "wondering" to verify that "Operation Pedro Clisante Cleansing" is working.
Well, it's a good thing the Mayor there created an abundant supply of job opportunities for the chicas after literally taking away there mill stone...right? (lol)
And the police, just what will they do after this operation is successful? Surely they don't have to worry about losing there jobs because there are way too many of them with nothing to do now...right? Maybe when there are no more chicas and vendors to lock up they'll start going after the stray dogs in Sosua to justify staying on the payroll....
[QUOTE=Combo]Wow. I have a trip planned in January. I'm wondering if I should cancel.[/QUOTE] Classicos and Bar Central are packed with chicas at 10pm+, Passions is going great+ as is another new similar club.
[QUOTE=Sidney]Classicos and Bar Central are packed with chicas at 10pm+, Passions is going great+ as is another new similar club.[/QUOTE]
I second the piece of advice. It's good to be in Classicos. Chicas bonitas everywhere. Just look at one of them, which one ?, and she'll come to take your money.
[QUOTE=Sidney]Classicos and Bar Central are packed with chicas at 10pm+, Passions is going great+ as is another new similar club.[/QUOTE]I am sitting here in this freaking mud hole, Sosua, and it's raining. I changed my 2 week trip to Rio for Sosua. I just finished my 5th trip this year to Rio on 15 Nov. only for 4 days. Now I am in Sosua. My 2nd trip here in 2 months.
Yes, the DR peso is cheaper than the Brazilian reias, but the Brazilian chicas are more finer. Yeah Classicos has a lot of girls, but they seem to be on a lower level than Brazil. Plus, if you want to take a break from fucking, there is more to do in Rio. Nothing to fucking to in Sosua. Now it's raining, and the mudhole is making more mud!!!!
But you can fuck here for US equivalent of $26.00 all night. So some chicas are gonna get fucked before I leave 2 Dec. 11 days to go!! Also, the girls here are hungrier than Rio. This place is good for those without post Help, non Copa game!
Me and 3 buddys went down to Sosua 2years ago for 7days and it rained every fucking day we were there and I mean torrential rain. What a fucking mess that was. The day we were leaving the fucking sun came out! I have not been to Brazil( definitely on my todo list) but I go to Colombia every 2 months and love it. Colombia and its women are much finer than the dominicans. I am heading down to DR on Dec 2 and I have to sort thru alot of fucked up women before I find a good one. Alot of them have fucked up stomachs and or tits that look like fried eggs. Drives me nuts! First thing I do is check out the stomach, I like it to be nice and flat.
[QUOTE=Ipanema Carioca]I am sitting here in this freaking mud hole, Sosua, and it's raining. I changed my 2 week trip to Rio for Sosua. I just finished my 5th trip this year to Rio on 15 Nov. only for 4 days. Now I am in Sosua. My 2nd trip here in 2 months.
Yes, the DR peso is cheaper than the Brazilian reias, but the Brazilian chicas are more finer. Yeah Classicos has a lot of girls, but they seem to be on a lower level than Brazil. Plus, if you want to take a break from fucking, there is more to do in Rio. Nothing to fucking to in Sosua. Now it's raining, and the mudhole is making more mud!!!!
But you can fuck here for US equivalent of $26.00 all night. So some chicas are gonna get fucked before I leave 2 Dec. 11 days to go!! Also, the girls here are hungrier than Rio. This place is good for those without post Help, non Copa game![/QUOTE]
Hi everyone,
Is it possible to stay at casa marina with dominican girlfriend? Does anyone done so please give some info. I am 42 she is 19 will this be a problem?
Thanks alot
[QUOTE=You Can]Me and 3 buddys went down to Sosua 2years ago for 7days and it rained every fucking day we were there and I mean torrential rain. What a fucking mess that was. The day we were leaving the fucking sun came out! I have not been to Brazil( definitely on my todo list) but I go to Colombia every 2 months and love it. Colombia and its women are much finer than the dominicans. I am heading down to DR on Dec 2 and I have to sort thru alot of fucked up women before I find a good one. Alot of them have fucked up stomachs and or tits that look like fried eggs. Drives me nuts! First thing I do is check out the stomach, I like it to be nice and flat.[/QUOTE]
I've been to Rio, and Colombia and DR , and I always research the yearly and monthly weather reports of the previous year to determine when to book my vacation, not a %100 guarantee, but I have never suffered from endless days or weeks of rain.
Agree the Dr woman aren't on the par as Colombia or Brazil, but if your just going to dump your load to any of these countries, get on a dating site before you touch down and have your 10 waiting for you.
Research the surrounding cities and events , daily events can be found that don't revolve around just screwing.
It just all entails what you want to get out of your vacation.
Nowrath
I wouldn't do Sosua for more than a week. Rio on the other hand is a magnificent beautiful big city where I could stay for a year w/o leaving.
Sosua is a little shithole town. But between all the dogs you can find some very fine women (at quite low prices). It can be a great trip for 3-7 days. It also has a decent beach (which Medellin doesn't have). Check the weather charts. Aug - Dec looks like the rainy season.
[QUOTE=Combo]Sosua is a little shithole town.[/QUOTE]
This place is a smaller version of Pattaya! Only been here 3 days and having a great fuckin time! Reports to follow!
Guys, look like Sousa is going to close down soon!
[QUOTE=Combo]I wouldn't do Sosua for more than a week. Rio on the other hand is a magnificent beautiful big city where I could stay for a year w/o leaving.
It does not make sense to compare Sosua with Rio de Janeiro a city with a 10+ million population of course there are more things to do, to see, to explore....
''21 November 2010
Drastic changes in Sosúa
Thursday afternoon 18 November at 4 PM, at the restaurant 'Muroa May', a meeting was held. At that meeting the owners of the bars in the Pedro Clisante were invited. Further more, the commander of the Tourist Police (Politur) and the President of the Tourism Department were present.
At this meeting the President of the Tourism Department announced that from 3 December, the policy in the Pedro Clisante will be tightened. From 3 December all the bars have to be closed from street view along the street. The reason is that when you walk along the street you should not be disturbed from the noise of the bars. In addition, women and girls are not allowed to walk alone along the street anymore. If a woman or girl should be alone on the street, and can not prove that she has a job or is an employee, then she is arrested for prostitution. Also, women should not be found alone, but accompanied by a companion in a bar or restaurant, otherwise these women will also be arrested for prostitution and the bar will be closed. Currently, at the Bar 'Latino' (owner is the Vice-Mayor Willy Olivences) dark glass windows are places to close it off from the street view.''
[QUOTE=Seiko1999]Hi everyone,
Is it possible to stay at casa marina with dominican girlfriend? Does anyone done so please give some info. I am 42 she is 19 will this be a problem?
Thanks alot[/QUOTE]
No. There is no problem but make sure she meets you at the airport and you check in together. Do not worry about the age. Many tourists bring their young girlfriends to all inclusive resorts. As long as your GF behaves like a normal girl and dresses the part there should not be any problem. There are two sets of rules. White european girls can wear the skimpiest dress and can get away with it. But with a local dominicana they might question. For all they know this girl maybe staying there to find tricks among the tourists. There are many girls who book and stay at all inclusive just to do this. Besides it is cheaper if a Dominican girl books the room. Maybe you should try that.
I have stayed at a resort with local girl. There are no issues although she was hit on by some young dudes. I am sure you will get some weird looks from some fat old women. Just ignore. For the most part young people are nice and you can join them in the pool playing games etc.
Ofcourse make sure this girl has a cedula.
[QUOTE=Malikh12]Guys, look like Sousa is going to close down soon![/QUOTE]
Here is the link to the article posted by Malikh12,
[url]http://www.sosuanews.com/index.php[/url]
This part of the article, if enforced, will really change Sosua.
"Also, women should not be found alone, but accompanied by a companion in a bar or restaurant, otherwise these women will also be arrested for prostitution and the bar will be closed."
[QUOTE=Sidney]''21 November 2010
Drastic changes in Sosúa
Thursday afternoon 18 November at 4 PM, at the restaurant 'Muroa May', a meeting was held. At that meeting the owners of the bars in the Pedro Clisante were invited. Further more, the commander of the Tourist Police (Politur) and the President of the Tourism Department were present.
At this meeting the President of the Tourism Department announced that from 3 December, the policy in the Pedro Clisante will be tightened. From 3 December all the bars have to be closed from street view along the street. The reason is that when you walk along the street you should not be disturbed from the noise of the bars. In addition, women and girls are not allowed to walk alone along the street anymore. If a woman or girl should be alone on the street, and can not prove that she has a job or is an employee, then she is arrested for prostitution. Also, women should not be found alone, but accompanied by a companion in a bar or restaurant, otherwise these women will also be arrested for prostitution and the bar will be closed. Currently, at the Bar 'Latino' (owner is the Vice-Mayor Willy Olivences) dark glass windows are places to close it off from the street view.''[/QUOTE]Just that the meeting was held at Mauri Mauri says alot. Alexandra(beautiful and very nice lady) is the owner. But her husband Rafael(nice guy) is a major property owner in Sosua. He is Dominican and connected with the police, mayor, and most powerful Domiinicans. He is currently renovating the building he owns across from LaRoca, and diagonal from Mauri Mauri. MM has great food and caters to a clientele that doesn't mind paying a little extra for good food.
[QUOTE=Combo]Wow. I have a trip planned in January. I'm wondering if I should cancel.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bq Ribs]Here is the link to the article posted by Malikh12,
[url]http://www.sosuanews.com/index.php[/url]
This part of the article, if enforced, will really change Sosua.
"Also, women should not be found alone, but accompanied by a companion in a bar or restaurant, otherwise these women will also be arrested for prostitution and the bar will be closed."[/QUOTE]
Well, I think you have your answer now Combo. Definitely don't spend your money in a place where your business is not wanted. Let Sosua starve as they wait for the "New Cabarette" crowd to arrive. And I seriously don't see that happening unless they change the name of Sosua to something other than Sosua.
So, is Wilfred of New Garden going to cash out before his business there slows to a trickle? In any case, as my man Jay Z says: "On to tha next one." At least we'll always have pictures.
Can't blame all of this on the female mayor; she is just a sock-puppet taking orders from whoever has their hand up her ass.
[I]"...last call for drinks, bars closing down... Sun's out, where we going to for breakfast?..."[/I] - Carlito's Way
[QUOTE=Bq Ribs]Here is the link to the article posted by Malikh12,
[url]http://www.sosuanews.com/index.php[/url]
This part of the article, if enforced, will really change Sosua.
"Also, women should not be found alone, but accompanied by a companion in a bar or restaurant, otherwise these women will also be arrested for prostitution and the bar will be closed."[/QUOTE]
This is similar to the rule enforced in Boca Chica on Duarte. If enforced it will definitely change the atmosphere in Sosua. In BC chicas are afraid to be on Duarte after dark without an escort, the only chicas that can be there are those hired by the bars. Things will be much quieter. In BC there are chicas on the streets other than Duarte, and of course in the casas etc.
[QUOTE=SavePros321]So, is Wilfred of New Garden going to cash out before his business there slows to a trickle?[/QUOTE]
Funny (not really) you mentioned that. I was planning on talking to Wilfred tomorrow to reserve a room for March.
This is clearly unfair! It took me years to find this place...WTF?
3 more nights, I will go out in true fashion!
[QUOTE=Combo]Wow. I have a trip planned in January. I'm wondering if I should cancel.[/QUOTE]
If you were planning to spend your time with hard-core street-rat slags with tattoos, piercings and a bad attitude, then cancel. If not, then go, and enjoy yourself as much as ever, perhaps more.
So your saying, they cleaned the place of lowlifes and let the better dressed *****s stay? Yea Okay
[QUOTE=Charles Pooter]If you were planning to spend your time with hard-core street-rat slags with tattoos, piercings and a bad attitude, then cancel. If not, then go, and enjoy yourself as much as ever, perhaps more.[/QUOTE]
Well, this clean up basically pushes girls inside, to the casas and houses under the control of pimps. This is exactly what I hate, girls were free to go around and pick their punters without chulos and middle men. What a sheme.... (may be that's what they didn't like !?)
I think it will cause serious damage to the economy and businesses in Sosua. It will take years to recover, many Dominicans (or expats) who work and live in Sosua will suffer, if they think this is the way to clean up the place they are so wrong. This is how to kill it.
I blame it directly on a woman mayor, why not, I think she's not getting across the fact that Sosua only exists due to punters and chicas, all inclusive hotels died years ago, when other, cheaper places in DR and Cuba etc. came up with better offers. Another mayor would have made this point. Recall how national after midnight curfews a while back where changed for Sosua and there was an exception for this little town, because they got this point across to the authority. This woman mayor is probably doing the opposite.
In a few months Sosua will become a ghost town, it's all supply and demand. Once punters start cancelling trips, the chicas will not bother to turn up, why should they go to a place that get hassled and arrested and then not even find a punter to make it worthwhile.
Arrest ALL unaccompanied girls at night !!! - what kind of f**king law is that, isn't it against women human-rights or something, feminazis ahould be complaining against this law against women !!!!? I hope the daughter of woman mayor get arrested one night on the way to a restaurant or something, or some other important sh*t, so may be they start thinking about what they actually telling police to do .... nuts.
Really shame about Sosua, it was really good while it lasted.
[QUOTE=Uzinuzin]
I blame it directly on a woman mayor, why not, I think she's not getting across the fact that Sosua only exists due to punters and chicas, all inclusive hotels died years ago, when other, cheaper places in DR and Cuba etc. came up with better offers. Another mayor would have made this point. Recall how national after midnight curfews a while back where changed for Sosua and there was an exception for this little town, because they got this point across to the authority. This woman mayor is probably doing the opposite.
In a few months Sosua will become a ghost town, it's all supply and demand. Once punters start cancelling trips, the chicas will not bother to turn up, why should they go to a place that get hassled and arrested and then not even find a punter to make it worthwhile.
[/QUOTE]
I've been trying to get this same point across to my friend with no luck. For some reason he is hell bent on believing that "Aw, this only means that the girls will only show to the clubs at night." When I tell him that they would be arrested trying to get to the club his answer to that is "Aw, they'll just take a motochono to the (front of) club."
He seems to believe that all this is geared towards making Sosua "family-friendly" during the day, and that it will still be "Rated R" during the night because this is when most of the family, especially the kids, will be asleep...perfectly unaware of what goes on after dark. I'm like seriously? So more families can come to Sosua? Are you kidding me? His answer to that was "Cabarete is more expensive, so families may want to stay in Sosua because it is cheaper..."
He refuses to except the premise that all of the arrest of chicas is perfectly designed so that they will pass the word to their sisters, amigas, and cousins that it is not worth while to go to Sosua because you will get arrested. How does that benefit a chica spending a day or night in jail when she could have been making money? That is like a hourly wage worker having to call off that day because his car wouldn't start; you don't get paid on days you don't work.
He just won't believe that this will have a trickle-down effect in any way, shape, or fashion. When chicas pass the word to other chicas and stop showing up for fear of being arrested, guys will stop showing up if there are no women around! Meaning the process produced it's intended effect. He also refuses to believe that just because the Vice Mayor of Sosua is also the owner of Latinos, nothing is going to change because he doesn't want to lose any business. Well, it sure as hell doesn't mean that he can easily be bought out if only just to close the place down I said.
To him, all this means is "business as usual, except things will happen a lot later at night."
I disagree with you in your anger towards the female Mayor of Sosua. Again, she is only a sock-puppet following orders from whoever has their hand up her culo. I stand by my belief that there are investor/developers wanting to turn Sosua into "New Cabarete" or "Punta Cana North." As if they don't already have enough places in the DR where people can fly hundreds of miles over just to lay in the sun in beach chairs all day looking at each other stupidly.
No, she is just taking orders and I believe this is the first step of a grander scheme. $89/per night for a King room at Terra Linda (which was only $55/per night back in March of this year when I stayed there) should have been the first sign of things to come. But first that have to do away with the pros.
[QUOTE=SavePros321].....I disagree with you in your anger towards the female Mayor of Sosua. Again, she is only a sock-puppet following orders from whoever has their hand up her culo........[/QUOTE]
I have to agree with you on this. No way could the mayor attemp to try to pull this off without some strong backing. When the crack down started there were those who said it won't last. Seems to be getting much worse than better.
Although I am disappointed with the recent backlash against prostitution in sousa I am not surprised. If you look at it from an outsider's point of view you will see it as a cesspool of filth ripe with disease and deprivation.
There are some of us that happen to like visiting such places but in the case of sosua it is right in your face without any attempts to hide it. I've never been to thailand but I assume pattaya is much the same way. Sosua has potential as a tourist town much like neighboring cabarete. They could very well promote it for scuba diving all inclusives tennis/beach resorts or as an extension of cabarete which is what they most likely envision it to be.
None of this progress can be made while NY Party Guys and their Euro counterparts are dirtying the image of sosua and creating such a dirty unhealthy living environment. The bucks come once the trash leaves or the bucks pay to make the trash leave.
* Disclaimer " These are not artisttyp's personal views" These are my opinions as to why such action is taking place in sosua.
- Life Life Eat Ass -
[QUOTE=Bq Ribs]I have to agree with you on this. No way could the mayor attemp to try to pull this off without some strong backing. When the crack down started there were those who said it won't last. Seems to be getting much worse than better.[/QUOTE]
Considering the overall worldwide economy, the timing doesn't make much sense. Is Iberostar, Marriott or Hilton suddenly flush with cash and willing to make a significant investment in the North Coast?
I don't get it.
[QUOTE=Artisttyp]Sosua has potential as a tourist town much like neighboring cabarete. They could very well promote it for scuba diving all inclusives tennis/beach resorts or as an extension of cabarete which is what they most likely envision it to be.
None of this progress can be made while NY Party Guys and their Euro counterparts are dirtying the image of sosua and creating such a dirty unhealthy living environment. The bucks come once the trash leaves or the bucks pay to make the trash leave.
* Disclaimer " These are not artisttyp's personal views" These are my opinions as to why such action is taking place in sosua.
- Life Life Eat Ass -[/QUOTE]
Well, I guess we can look at this in a positive light. I'm mean, look at all the jobs that will be created with more resorts! There are so many resorts in the DR already that it's no wonder they have such a low unemployment rate....right? More resorts should help to lower it even further!
It's a good thing they thought about their own people when implementing this crackdown. Now everyone will have a job! At the resorts....that haven't been built yet....
And just in time for Christmas too! This should prove to be a very merry Christmas indeed for the folks in Monte Lano.
It's nice to see that politico's are no different anywhere in ANY country. Our sellouts sold us out to the Chinese long time ago...I guess Sosua is going to the Russians.
What you say makes sense to me. Someone has a vision for Sosua. Whether or not it unfolds only time will tell. If the mongers pack up and leave Sosua will not starve to death.
[QUOTE=Artisttyp]..... There are some of us that happen to like visiting such places but in the case of sosua it is right in your face without any attempts to hide it...... [/QUOTE]
Five years ago daytime in Sosua was "tourist" friendly. I made a brief stop in Sosua about six months ago and could not believe the amount of putas out and about mid afternoon.
[QUOTE=Artisttyp]Although I am disappointed with the recent backlash against prostitution in sousa I am not surprised. If you look at it from an outsider's point of view you will see it as a cesspool of filth ripe with disease and deprivation.
There are some of us that happen to like visiting such places but in the case of sosua it is right in your face without any attempts to hide it. I've never been to thailand but I assume pattaya is much the same way. Sosua has potential as a tourist town much like neighboring cabarete. They could very well promote it for scuba diving all inclusives tennis/beach resorts or as an extension of cabarete which is what they most likely envision it to be.
None of this progress can be made while NY Party Guys and their Euro counterparts are dirtying the image of sosua and creating such a dirty unhealthy living environment. The bucks come once the trash leaves or the bucks pay to make the trash leave.
* Disclaimer " These are not artisttyp's personal views" These are my opinions as to why such action is taking place in sosua.
- Life Life Eat Ass -[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SavePros321]Well, I guess we can look at this in a positive light. I'm mean, look at all the jobs that will be created with more resorts! There are so many resorts in the DR already that it's no wonder they have such a low unemployment rate. Right? More resorts should help to lower it even further!
It's a good thing they thought about their own people when implementing this crackdown. Now everyone will have a job! At the resorts. That haven't been built yet.
And just in time for Christmas too! This should prove to be a very Merry Christmas indeed for the folks in Monte Lano.
It's nice to see that politico's are no different anywhere in ANY country. Our sellouts sold us out to the Chinese long time ago. I guess Sosua is going to the Russians.[/QUOTE]As usual your posts are dead on. But the "Dominican way" never is understandable. The mongerers money that is filtered to the Dominican community will be missed. If not someone tell me how the shortfall will be countered? The euro investors are part of the game plan, but in time Sosua will revolve back to how we know it.
[QUOTE=SavePros321]Well, I guess we can look at this in a positive light. I'm mean, look at all the jobs that will be created with more resorts! There are so many resorts in the DR already that it's no wonder they have such a low unemployment rate....right? More resorts should help to lower it even further!.....[/QUOTE]
Quite possibly there are no plans what so ever for new resorts. Maybe the cleanup is also to make Sosua a family friendly spot for locals. They cleaned up Boca Chica a few years ago and now on weekends and holidays BC is packed with locals.
What ever the end result of Sosua and Santo Domingo I will grin and bear it.
The weekend of December 3 in Sosua will be very interesting.
You maybe onto something, maybe some big name resorts or hotels(Marriott/Hilton) want to move in.The Mayor(female) may have her hands tied or she can look at how much more money a resort/hotel can bring into the country. That or she can be looking out for the women of Sosua and maybe she wants a better life for them besides selling there ass?
Maybe the (Mayor) and the people of DR want to change the mindset of everyone not to think of DR as a place to come and ***k there women, but to bring your families and be safe walk the streets at night or day and not see all that goes on, women walking around selling themselves half naked and what not?
[QUOTE=Artisttyp]....... They could very well promote it for scuba diving ............. -[/QUOTE]If they get rid of the chicas and mongers perhaps Sosua could be turned into a cheap family tourist spot. But it will never become a scuba diving destination. Serious divers would never consider going to Sosua or anywhere else in the DR for a dive vacation. The world class diving does not exist in the DR.
Will be in Sosua 11/27 – 12/4 and staying at D’Piero. Based on prior post sounds like I may be attending Socua’s memorial service. Could use a wingman to help mourn the death of Sosua. Anyone going to be there?
A lot of talk about this on the other board.
[url]http://www.sosuanews.com/index.php[/url]
I'm afraid I will be attending Sosua's memorial service will I arrive on the 27th.
I am there in a few days and have not given up on Sosua yet. So from what I hear is daytime mongering limited to the hotels (like NG, Europa etc) and la passion. Where else can one find daytime action? how about the beach? I tried calling up my old contacts and 90% of the numbers are disconnected. I guess the local hustlers (like Ramon) would have field day arranging dates. I read the sosua news article. It says a woman cannot be found alone in a bar or restaurant or on the street at night. Well they have to get past all that to get to classicos or other discos and I guess its ok to be alone inside the disco?? Its not clear how this is going to work out. Somehow I feel its advantage to the monger in terms of negotiations and making sure the chica stays toda noche...:))
Well guys i will give you a secret, the best time to go to DR, Brazil,etc.. is a week before christmas.
Sousa is going to packed with bitches from all over the Dominican Republic, Its Christmas time so they need money for gifts for there family, friends and children. so everybody is going to be thirsty for cash. You will have alot of fresh meat in Sosua.
I will be in sousa a few days before Christmas. So I will give you guys first hand intel.
[QUOTE=SavePros321]Well, I guess we can look at this in a positive light. I'm mean, look at all the jobs that will be created with more resorts! There are so many resorts in the DR already that it's no wonder they have such a low unemployment rate....right? More resorts should help to lower it even further!
It's a good thing they thought about their own people when implementing this crackdown. Now everyone will have a job! At the resorts....that haven't been built yet....
And just in time for Christmas too! This should prove to be a very merry Christmas indeed for the folks in Monte Lano.
It's nice to see that politico's are no different anywhere in ANY country. Our sellouts sold us out to the Chinese long time ago...I guess Sosua is going to the Russians.[/QUOTE]
I value your opinion. My opinion is different. As equity markets never improve until debt markets improve, same way DR. Spain now has a glut of investment oppotunities, it's first world jurisdiction only hours from European countries. I follow European forums and I know what I am talking about. Btw, Cabarete is a disaster, a desert in comparison to every other successful tourist destination. Turkey, Egypt, Spain, Cyprus, Croatia etc are times closer, cheaper and more friendly. Any investment plot to turn Sosua into New Buenos Aires? I call it baloney.
Also, half of the street 'business' is done before dark, there is some game on the beach, then like up to third from lunch time to before night falls.
[QUOTE=Questner]I value your opinion. My opinion is different. As equity markets never improve until debt markets improve, same way DR. Spain now has a glut of investment oppotunities, it's first world jurisdiction only hours from European countries. I follow European forums and I know what I am talking about. BTW, Cabarete is a disaster, a desert in comparison to every other successful tourist destination. Turkey, Egypt, Spain, Cyprus, Croatia etc are times closer, cheaper and more friendly. Any investment plot to turn Sosua into New Buenos Aires? I call it baloney.
Also, half of the street 'business' is done before dark, there is some game on the beach, then like up to third from lunch time to before night falls.[/QUOTE]I also value your opinion, but mine is different. The beach in Sosua has no more game like before.
Cabarette a desert? Have you been there at night and noticed all the people hanging out having a good romantic meal, or the jazz festivals that have live entertainment on the beach. Cabarettes problem is that they can't expand. As for as world economics you seem to know what your talking about.
Sure, there may be some cosmetic changes in how the game is played in Sosua, but a statement from some politician is not going to change the fundamentals, which are:
Poverty
Unlimited supply of unemployed young women
Easy money from sex seeking tourists
Free enterprise culture
Cultural acceptance of prostitution in general
Relatively safe, cheap and close to the U.S.
We have politicians that have "cleaned up" my city in Canada, but prostitution is more prevalent than ever, only its gone to hotel rooms, massage parlours, and outcalls.
But Canada's lack of the basic fundamentals listed above, means that it is an expensive, hit and miss service, with no reasonable guarantee of a satisfying outcome. That's why we look elsewhere.
As long as there are lots of rich guys looking and lots of needy girls to look at, the age old deals will still be struck.
And for guys like me that likes to hook up with a regular, no big deal. She also has a wide circle of friends, so I can still do my ogling and side deals too, if need there be.
But if politicians can change the culture by decree, it would be the first time in history.
[QUOTE=Abr Mainline]The Mayor(female) may have her hands tied or she can look at how much more money a resort/hotel can bring into the country. That or she can be looking out for the women of Sosua and maybe she wants a better life for them besides selling there ass?[/QUOTE]
I can tell you right now that the Mayor has no input in this whatsoever. The money coming into Sosua is what is behind the crackdowns and they are the ones giving her marching orders.
Even if we followed this premise, how is she wanting a better life for them without providing job opportunities for them? They have taken away the only source for girls to make any real money, and this is all most of the girls have known for a very long time. It's like taking someone off of crack or heroine without providing them the necessary treatment for transition.
I don't know if you have stayed at any of the hotels in Sosua, but how many of these Marriott/Hiltons do you think will hire an abundance of women? There are a total of 3 guys working the front desk at Terra Linda at any given time (Willie, Andre, and the blanco-skinned guy with the dark hair); 2-3 girls working the bar in the restaurant. The maids are older women. New Garden has even less; A girl works the front desk when Omar is not there, and there is one server girl who I think is there every day. The cooks are male. The maids are older women.
I don't think any new hotel/resort will be much different.
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]As usual your posts are dead on. But the "Dominican way" never is understandable. The mongerers money that is filtered to the Dominican community will be missed.[/QUOTE]
Whether the folks there want to admit it or not, we provided a quick fix to a problem they either don't care to fix or are too lazy to put in any effort to fix: unemployment.
There is nowhere on that side of the island where a chica can go and make the kind of money she makes off a tourist. Especially when you factor in the times when she hooks up with someone ignorant to the price structure and overpays. Even half-way decent looking girls come to Sosua and can earn. I know everyone knows the big girl with the blond afro. Somebody is giving her money because I always see her on the strip in Sosua every trip! She is pushy as hell but I always tell her I have a girlfriend and she leaves me alone. If she wasn't making any money she wouldn't continue to come to Sosua.
Another unspoken truth is that Sosua is a "quick fix" for almost all the women all over the island. Chicas come from as far as Boca Chica and Santo Domingo to get a quick fix for family problems. It's like a an epic Quest for some of them. If a family member/kid gets sick or needs money for something important, what does the family/village do? They send out their best on a mission.
-She dons her "Warpaint" (Hair, makeup, nails etc. She may even have to borrow pesos from friends and family to get this done but she knows she will earn enough in Sosua to pay them back)
-She readies her armor (clothes, shoes, jewelry)
-She mounts her horse (Caribe Tours)
-After staying in Sosua for a few days or even a week she returns from her quest to her village either sucessful or a failure
The DR can kid themselves all they want to but WE know that they have nothing for these chicas in replace of the income we provide them. To somehow believe that they will all give up hooking and go enroll in the University or work at a normal job (which is in short supply there to begin with) is laughable.
They only thing that ever got hurt in Sosua is feelings. And it was usually the monger who was it's casualty. Which reminds me of another point: chicas who are skilled in the art of spell casting (wizard class) can easily get set up with a "retainer-boi" via Western Union!
[QUOTE=SavePros321]Whether the folks there want to admit it or not, we provided a quick fix to a problem they either don't care to fix or are too lazy to put in any effort to fix: unemployment.
There is nowhere on that side of the island where a chica can go and make the kind of money she makes off a tourist. Especially when you factor in the times when she hooks up with someone ignorant to the price structure and overpays. Even half-way decent looking girls come to Sosua and can earn. I know everyone knows the big girl with the blond afro. Somebody is giving her money because I always see her on the strip in Sosua every trip! She is pushy as hell but I always tell her I have a girlfriend and she leaves me alone. If she wasn't making any money she wouldn't continue to come to Sosua.
Another unspoken truth is that Sosua is a "quick fix" for almost all the women all over the island. Chicas come from as far as Boca Chica and Santo Domingo to get a quick fix for family problems. It's like a an epic Quest for some of them. If a family member/kid gets sick or needs money for something important, what does the family/village do? They send out their best on a mission.
-She dons her "Warpaint" (Hair, makeup, nails etc. She may even have to borrow pesos from friends and family to get this done but she knows she will earn enough in Sosua to pay them back)
-She readies her armor (clothes, shoes, jewelry)
-She mounts her horse (Caribe Tours)
-After staying in Sosua for a few days or even a week she returns from her quest to her village either sucessful or a failure
The DR can kid themselves all they want to but WE know that they have nothing for these chicas in replace of the income we provide them. To somehow believe that they will all give up hooking and go enroll in the University or work at a normal job (which is in short supply there to begin with) is laughable.
They only thing that ever got hurt in Sosua is feelings. And it was usually the monger who was it's casualty. Which reminds me of another point: chicas who are skilled in the art of spell casting (wizard class) can easily get set up with a "retainer-boi" via Western Union![/QUOTE]Comprendo, but guys who are less inclined to visit will stop Western Union payments. Most guys send money to places they frequent. What kills me is their timing with the crackdown. Why not wait till the year is over and start a "new initiative" rather than kill Christmas?
[QUOTE=SavePros321]I can tell you right now that the Mayor has no input in this whatsoever. The money coming into Sosua is what is behind the crackdowns and they are the ones giving her marching orders.
[/QUOTE]
So what exactly is the source of your information?
While Ilana Neumann is the new Mayor of Sosua, Willy Olivences the owner of the Sosua Life nightclub a.k.a. Latinos is the deputy Mayor, so where does he come into the picture?
And what are the politics of the PRD. I'm no expert on Dominican politics, but my understanding is that the PRD is a left wing party and has a history of spending a lot of money creating jobs for poor Dominicans.
[QUOTE=Frannie]So what exactly is the source of your information?
While Ilana Neumann is the new Mayor of Sosua, Willy Olivences the owner of the Sosua Life nightclub a.k.a. Latinos is the deputy Mayor, so where does he come into the picture?
And what are the politics of the PRD. I'm no expert on Dominican politics, but my understanding is that the PRD is a left wing party and has a history of spending a lot of money creating jobs for poor Dominicans.[/QUOTE]
A history of spending a lot of money to create jobs WHERE???
As far as where my information comes from I am purely speculating as to what is going on. I ask the same question as you: where does the Deputy Mayor come into the picture? Because surely he wouldn't purposely be commiting Hari Kari with his business, right? What does he stand to gain in this crackdown other than less people visiting his town and spending money at his bar?
BUT, if someone behind the scenes offered to buy his bar at a later date once the cleanup has been completed, then of course he'd go along with the process with no fuss.
Let's look at this further: I do not know how the election process works in Sosua, but who elected the female mayor to begin with? Surely it wasn't the chicas; surely it wasn't Wilfred of NG knowing what her plans would do to his business. As fucked up as the situation of prostitution may be, do you think the citizens there are happy that there will be no more stupid gringo money coming into their home brought home by their daughters, nieces, granddaughters? Somebody's going to be missing a few more meals in the mean time...well, until the PRD creates all those new jobs as you put it, lol!
And sorry, I'm still not convinced this is all of her planning and doing, not for one minute. When you have people like mayor Bloomberg trying to convince New Yorkers that the Ground Zero Mosque will be good for New York, you close your ears, open your eyes, and FOLLOW THE MONEY TRAIL leading up to the doorsteps of his office.
So the PRD is going to create all new jobs for the chicas, huh? Just in time for Christmas too, right? Can't wait to see that!
P.S. If this is going to be bad for Dominicanas, you can only imagine how ruff it's going to be for the Haitianas...
[QUOTE=Frannie]And what are the politics of the PRD. I'm no expert on Dominican politics, but my understanding is that the PRD is a left wing party and has a history of spending a lot of money creating jobs for poor Dominicans.[/QUOTE]
There is really no ideological differences between the parties. In fact they are not really political parties at all in the European sense (though maybe a little bit nearer to what are laughably called political parties in the US).
Both main parties were founded by the same man, Juan Bosch, which indicates you would have a job to insert a cigarette paper between their ideologies.
And in any case their ideologies are just cosmetic. Better to think of them as being like two mafia families who sometimes bicker about sharing out their ill-gotten gains but can be relied upon to close ranks when the whole rotten system and their common interests are threatened. All the top people of all parties have dinner together, inter-marry, promote commercial scams together, and cover up each others crimes on the rare occasions they are brought to light.
The US State Department and the CIA would not permit the existence of a genuinely left-wing party in the Dominican Republic. Nor is the country ready for one educationally or culturally.