Cartagena Reports

[QUOTE=Mambomasden; 1430912]Gents,

Have travel to Cartagena booked for August. Question (s) are:

I'm staying at one of the nicer hotels, which I imagine to not be chica friendly in north San Diego portion of the old city. While this is my first COl. Trip, I, ve had my stripes earned (in some cases literally!) in northern Mex, Brazil, Uraguay... [/QUOTE]Mambomasden,

See my last posting which answers some of your questions.

_ LDV, I don't think you will find a GFE here, as in they might be back there the next night.

- Gifts will be accepted but they are not overly impressed with them unless it's gold.

- Yes girls will go on a day trip to the islands, careful of them setting up other clients when they are out of sight.

- Like I said there are not many places to hang out, drink and meet other mongers except maybe the beach. Nightlife is groups of friends or backpackers in hostels.

You can find it quite lonely when not with your girl.

CartAngel. I wouldn't post or pm photos of girls without their permission.

[QUOTE=Mambomasden;1430912]Have travel to Cartagena booked for August. Question (s) are:[/QUOTE]August is the worst month to go there. Very crowded, especially single men from Italy, Israel, etc, because it's the holiday month there.

[QUOTE=Mambomasden;1430912]- Easiest options for taking girls in near El Centro / San Diego for hourly options (preferably not to skanky)[/QUOTE]A perfect place is the hotel which was called Sol de las Indias, now I don't remember. 1 block from Elektra going to the Reloj.

If you want invest more time and money, the motels Jaiba, Cangrejo, Dunas at Crespo. Find some of my old reports for details.

[QUOTE=Mambomasden;1430912]-is LDV not ideal place to break to get my "toes" wet? I am hoping for the true GFE experience.[/QUOTE]GFE in LDV? That's a contradiction of terms. Impossible.

[QUOTE=Mambomasden;1430912]- Hoping to accompany other fellows in Cartagena while in country. Local pub to meet blokes to wing with? I speak spanish w / touch of carribean accent[/QUOTE]Why to waste your time in that way? Hunt alone and focus on girls. Go to bars and discos and look around. Plenty of regulars not in the business, if you want to stay away from P4P.

[QUOTE=Black Page;1432246]August is the worst month to go there. Very crowded, especially single men from Italy, Israel, etc, because it's the holiday month there.[/QUOTE]What do you consider the best month? I am considering November.

The airfare is crazy for December. I'm trying to book my trip now. In some cases it is more expensive than Brazil. What gives? It is almost double from a few years ago. I should have long bypassed Sosua, but now the economics are out of control when you factor in the higher prices for everything else. I'm planning my Brazil trip at the beginning of March, so I can't bump that.

This will be my first trip to Colombia. I'm really excited to go somewhere new. I don't think I will be comfortable in Medellin since my Spanish is limited. I had a hard time in Barcelona when trying to talk to regular chics, so I know it will be difficult there and I'm not a big fan of casas.

This sucks. I envy guys that live near the hubs. These Midwest flights are a beatch!

[QUOTE=AlwaysHorny 2; 1433367]The airfare is crazy for December. I'm trying to book my trip now. In some cases it is more expensive than Brazil. What gives? It is almost double from a few years ago. I should have long bypassed Sosua, but now the economics are out of control when you factor in the higher prices for everything else. I'm planning my Brazil trip at the beginning of March, so I can't bump that...[/QUOTE]If you have the time and desire. Try flying into Bogota and then taking a short hop to Cartagena. Bogota prices tend to be a little cheaper and numerous connections directly into Cartagena.

I fly directly from Miami to Cartagena and the Avianca option is usually not cheap. Jet Blue is slowly adding flights to Colombia. Another option.

OK, I haven't been to Cartagena in 4 years so should probably keep my mouth shut. However, no GFE at LDV? That was an incredibly easy place to wife up. It's a freelancer hangout, so there are no big barfines to pay to get your date out of the establishment, and she probably hasn't already had 5 or 10 penises shoved up her snatch that night. A lot of the women were from other cities and didn't have family in Cartagena. So finding ones that would do overnighters, hang around the next day, go out on dates or day trips wasn't problematic. It wasn't unusual for my date to want to camp out in my apartment. I felt like Charlie Sheen, I was paying them to leave.

Maybe part of the difference of opinion involves cost and how attractive the women are. Some of the women in LDV used to be (and I assume still are) very attractive. And they weren't cheap by Colombian standards, unless you compare to high end clubs in Bogota. Yeah, if you're looking for GFE for 30,000 to 100,000 pesos from a 5 or a 6, LDV isn't the place to go. There are other places in other cities that are much better.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1432280]What do you consider the best month? I am considering November.[/QUOTE]November is really expensive in Cartagena because of miss Colombia and miss Cartagena take place in November. I am assuming it is the same this year as it was in year's past.

I'll be traveling to Cartagena later this summer and am hoping to explore all the options available. This will be my second time there. On my first trip, I hit up LDV and honestly thought it had the hottest chicas and most variety of anywhere in Colombia (maybe I just hit it on a really good night) , and I've been to Medellin a couple times before.

I'm curious to take a look at the other scenes out there though and was looking for some input. In reading the board recently, it sounds like Pleyboy is a good option as far as strip clubs, scoping out around the Clock tower is good for street scene, and Playa Blanca is hit or miss as far as girls walking the beach looking for customers.

Does anyone have any other good current comprehensive info regarding the street scene, clubs like LDV, or casas? It doesn't sound like casas are a big thing in Cartagena, but I ran into this info elsewhere. The info is a couple years old, so wondering if it is still current.

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Casas / Brothels. It is hard to get addresses; everyone says the Taxi driver will know.

All these areas below outside of El Centro are not safe to walk around in. Always use a taxi driver that you know and have him wait.

Bruselas

1. Rosario House, (House Dew Drill) (Casa de Rocio) , Calle Benjamin Herrera # 24-34 (Transversal 42).15-20 Chicas. Prices: Rooms US$25, Chica US$50-75 60 mins. Takeout Fee 200k, Chica 200-400k TLN, condoms US$10. Tel: 662 0057. Hours: 24/7.

El Bosque.

1. Corronchas, tell the taxi driver it's in front of "Suprema".20 Chicas. Prices: Beer 2k, Room fee 35k, Chica 70k 90 min. Hours: 8pm to __.

El Refugio.

1. Inter Club, Av. Transversal 49, Calle #20-100. 15 Chicas. Prices: US$75-100, Takeout Fee US$40. Tel: 310 706 8954, 313 551 4165, 313 502 9573. Hours: 24/7.

Nuevo Campestre

1. El Paraiso del Marino, Carrera 56 # 56B 51 at Calle 10. This club is about 25 minutes by car. 5-10 Chicas. Prices: 60k Room Fee. 160k 60 min, exit fee 130k, Chica 200k. Hours: 9-10pm to ___.

[url]www.paraisodelmarino.com[/url]

Strip Clubs / Brothels.

El Centro.

1. Isis, Carrera 5 # 33-10, on the corner of Calle Cochera del Gobernador, a block away from Donde Fidel.

12-15 Chicas. Prices: Beer 7k, Rum and Coke 15k, House fee 100k, Chicas 250+k hour. 250+ TLN. Tel: 660 1506. Hours: Best time 9pm to 4am.

El Refugio.

1. Isis Pley Club / Boy (Disco, sort of) , Avenida El Bosque Diagonal 21 #48-04 (Transversal 48).20-25+ Chicas. Prices: Taxi 15k, Beer 7k, Chicas 150k 20 min. 170k 40 min. 250k TLN. Tel: (57) 5-662-0717. Hours: Officially 11:30pm to 5-6am, but you can get in earlier.

[url]http://pleyclub.com/[/url]

Bruselas

1. Angeles Club, Avenida Crisanto Luque, Diagonal 22 #38-69 (fruente a multiamperio).10-20 Chicas. Prices: Room 50k, Chica $40-50 30 min, Takeout fee 150k, Chica $100-150. Hours: 9pm to ________.

Alto Bosque.

1. Liquezos Club, In Front of the Purina Dog food plant, Av. El Bosque, (Transversal 54).15-25 Chicas. Prices: 150k, Take Out 350k. Tel: 310 733 8800. Hours: 8pm to 3am.

Bomba Esso, El Amparo Transversal 53 near Calle 31B (Close to the Esso Gas Station, past La Castellana, Near Barrio Santa Lucia)

These places are cheap because the chicas are not the best looking. Do not go alone! Take a Guide with You!

1. Strip Club Chica Linda Night Club, Av El Bosque, El Amparo. 15-20 Chicas. Prices: Taxi 15k, Cover 10k. 80k chica + 30k room fee 30 min, take out $90-100, $50 takeout barfee. Tel: _______. Hours: 8pm to ___.

2. Chica Rica Bar Show, Av El Bosque, El Amparo. _ Chicas. Prices: ___k 30 min. Tel: _______. Hours: 8pm to _____.

3. Bar Cachique, Av El Bosque, El Amparo. 12-20 Chicas. Prices: $45-50, $15 house, Chica takeout $100, $50 barfee. Tel: _______. Hours: 8pm to ___.

4. Bar Citara, Av El Bosque, El Amparo. 12 Chicas. Prices: ___k 30 min. Tel: _______. Hours: 8pm to _____.

Street Action.

1. El Laguito and Bocagrande, around LDV. Prices: 50-80k.

2. Along Avenida San Martin.

There are a few on the corner of San Martin (Carrera 2) and Calle 5a, across the street from the short time Hotel El Pueblito. They are asking between 80k-100k. If you hang at the Café Arepas Pues a few chicas will walk by.

This café seems like it could be a good monger meeting place.

A few chicas in front of the Casino Rio, San Martin and Calle 6.

3. Plaza de los Dulces around the Clock Tower in El Centro (Old City) late night. Prices: 50-80k.

4. In front of Bar California, on the other side of the Clock Tower, outside the walls, past the gardens, where Calle Media Luna begins (Getsemani). And along the Calle there are more. In the day time, they are in the garden. Sometimes, they move to the streets close by.

[QUOTE=the Kine Kid; 1437381]I'll be traveling to Cartagena later this summer and am hoping to explore all the options available. This will be my second time there. On my first trip, I hit up LDV and honestly thought it had the hottest chicas and most variety of anywhere in Colombia (maybe I just hit it on a really good night) , and I've been to Medellin a couple times before.

I'm curious to take a look at the other scenes out there though and was looking for some input. In reading the board recently, it sounds like Pleyboy is a good option as far as strip clubs, scoping out around the Clock tower is good for street scene, and Playa Blanca is hit or miss as far as girls walking the beach looking for customers.

Does anyone have any other good current comprehensive info regarding the street scene, clubs like LDV, or casas? It doesn't sound like casas are a big thing in Cartagena, but I ran into this info elsewhere. The info is a couple years old, so wondering if it is still current.

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The Kine Kid, hey brother Hillbilly69 has a google map of everything in Cartagena, from casas to street walking areas to the clubs like LDV and Electra where the freelancers go. To practical things like cheap hotels. Good eats and where to take a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] at the beach. Go to Forum. Colombia- Cartagena Lists. It is currently six post down. Click on the google map link. An awesome resource for Cartagena. Thank Hillbilly69

Awesome man, thanks for the heads up!

[QUOTE=Mojo Bandit; 1437484]

[QUOTE=the Kine Kid; 1437381]I'll be traveling to Cartagena later this summer and am hoping to explore all the options available. This will be my second time there. On my first trip, I hit up LDV and honestly thought it had the hottest chicas and most variety of anywhere in Colombia (maybe I just hit it on a really good night) , and I've been to Medellin a couple times before.

I'm curious to take a look at the other scenes out there though and was looking for some input. In reading the board recently, it sounds like Pleyboy is a good option as far as strip clubs, scoping out around the Clock tower is good for street scene, and Playa Blanca is hit or miss as far as girls walking the beach looking for customers.

Does anyone have any other good current comprehensive info regarding the street scene, clubs like LDV, or casas? It doesn't sound like casas are a big thing in Cartagena, but I ran into this info elsewhere. The info is a couple years old, so wondering if it is still current.

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The Kine Kid, hey brother Hillbilly69 has a google map of everything in Cartagena, from casas to street walking areas to the clubs like LDV and Electra where the freelancers go. To practical things like cheap hotels. Good eats and where to take a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] at the beach. Go to Forum. Colombia- Cartagena Lists. It is currently six post down. Click on the google map link. An awesome resource for Cartagena. Thank Hillbilly69[/QUOTE]

Glad to see Claudia is still looking good!

[QUOTE=Kroder;1431258]Picture of a girl I meet in Cartagena.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Black Page; 1432246]August is the worst month to go there. Very crowded, especially single men from Italy, Israel, etc, because it's the holiday month there.

A perfect place is the hotel which was called Sol de las Indias, now I don't remember. 1 block from Elektra going to the Reloj.

If you want invest more time and money, the motels Jaiba, Cangrejo, Dunas at Crespo. Find some of my old reports for details.

GFE in LDV? That's a contradiction of terms. Impossible.

Why to waste your time in that way? Hunt alone and focus on girls. Go to bars and discos and look around. Plenty of regulars not in the business, if you want to stay away from P4P.[/QUOTE]I'll definitely will try that, and the regulars sound good. I do kinda have a bar. See attached pic. Going to the more remote locations away from the tourist area it would be good to have someone to go with who knows the ropes.

I'm hoping this August is not a as bad as that. From hotel perspective, it looked fairly open. Maybe I can mingle with the guys from Israel. L'chaim.

Thanks for feedback and advice!

Any one going to be down in Cartagena July2-5? Also have the house fees gone up? Are the girls staying the whole night?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Toppay; wish I were going to CTG now to join you on the casas adventure, please avail yourself of the map given in this forum it is very useful and tell us how you did, if you don't feel comfortable going to the other side of ctg alone where there is a bunch of casas, you need a good tour guide; I recommend Fabio the wingman, but you should be fine, I heard that at one of the casas way too far out of ctg, there is a chica that looks like Alicia Silverstone from clueless the movie in her best years.

I have heard that in Cartagena you don't necessarily have to go to a nightclub to find "chicas"; does anybody know the names of bars or hotels where girls hang out to meet their clients? Probably in the old city? Does this happen to be true in Cafe del Mar, and does it still exist? I'm planning to be there in the near future.

[QUOTE=Toppay; 1440418]Any one going to be down in Cartagena July2-5? Also have the house fees gone up? Are the girls staying the whole night?

Thanks![/QUOTE]Hey Toppay. I tried to send you a PM but you don't have that capability. I am in Cartagena during your timing and could use a wingman.

Interesting new rule at LDV: You must spend at least 100, 000 COP to take out the lady. So before I believe it was minimum 2 drinks with the lady. I had a beer 10k, the lady 2 margaritas at 20k each, total of 50k was not enough. She ordered another margarita me a Cuba libre, it was a little annoying. Why don't they just take a bar fine to make it easier? She told me it was the new rule set by Aldo (I think that is the owner?)

[QUOTE=Fun Pete;1441636]Interesting new rule at LDV: You must spend at least 100, 000 COP to take out the lady. So before I believe it was minimum 2 drinks with the lady. I had a beer 10k, the lady 2 margaritas at 20k each, total of 50k was not enough. She ordered another margarita me a Cuba libre, it was a little annoying. Why don't they just take a bar fine to make it easier? She told me it was the new rule set by Aldo (I think that is the owner?)[/QUOTE]There is no salida at LDV. LDV is a bar and not a cat house. There may me only an entrance fee or minimum consumption fee. Whoever gets in there solo and spends this kind of cash to take out a girl from inside and not from outside of LDV is a MORON the kind mentioned here:

Osbourne Cox: You're in league with that moronic woman. You are part of a league of morons.

Ted Treffon: No. No.

Osbourne Cox: Oh, yes. You see, you're one of the morons I've been fighting my whole life. My whole fucking life. But guess what. Today, I win.

[gun shot]

[QUOTE=GolferFun;1441378]I have heard that in Cartagena you don't necessarily have to go to a nightclub to find "chicas"; does anybody know the names of bars or hotels where girls hang out to meet their clients? Probably in the old city? Does this happen to be true in Cafe del Mar, and does it still exist? I'm planning to be there in the near future.[/QUOTE]There are working girls all over the tourist parts of Cartagena, just not heavily concentrated one one spot like electra or LDV or Hollywood beach or. Er. Uh Playa Hollywood (yes these are the hotspots for freelancers, but you will see them in the Plazas, the Plaza Santa Domingo, the Plaza de Los Coches, walking the streets in the old city, and yes. Cafe Del Mar. You can usually spot semi or pro chicas because they dress a little nicer and a little more prevocative than Colombianas that just out for stroll, and if she is dressed nice and she gives your gringo ass a smile. Definately a working girl.

Now I just posted this a few post back so I must give you the traditional scolding for not reading the Boards. Read the boards. In between all the meaningless (meaningless to you) conversations on this board there is a wealth of information. But just this once I am going to make like a leprechaun and lead you to a pot of Gold. Go to the top of the posts and look at your page you are now on, scroll toward the top and just when the page turns whitish grey you see a series of links. Forum South America Colombia Cartagena Reports Now you want to click on Colombia, when the list of threads comes up, scroll down to Cartagena Lists, Click On This, then scroll down until you see Hillbilly69 as the poster. Inside this post is a link to a map that Hillybilly69 has made of ALL THINGS CARTAGENA. Use it and thank Hillbilly69 when you see one of his posts.

[QUOTE=Fun Pete;1441636]Interesting new rule at LDV: You must spend at least 100, 000 COP to take out the lady. So before I believe it was minimum 2 drinks with the lady. I had a beer 10k, the lady 2 margaritas at 20k each, total of 50k was not enough. She ordered another margarita me a Cuba libre, it was a little annoying. Why don't they just take a bar fine to make it easier? She told me it was the new rule set by Aldo (I think that is the owner?)[/QUOTE]Yes that is just getting greedy, that is like $50 bucks, and it is steep, this will cost them some business from us budget minded mongers who know where to go elsewhere for freelance Chicas, Do you know anything about Electra? Are they doing anything different?

[QUOTE=Mojo Bandit;1441689]Yes that is just getting greedy, that is like $50 bucks, and it is steep, this will cost them some business from us budget minded mongers who know where to go elsewhere for freelance Chicas, Do you know anything about Electra? Are they doing anything different?[/QUOTE]I have gone through every post and don't see it nor can I find it by searching his name. Would be very helpful to have it or be directed to it or if possible reposted. Sorry I am an idiot but I tried. Going to Carta green and would appreciate the help.

[QUOTE=Lancealot1;1441385]Hey Toppay. I tried to send you a PM but you don't have that capability. I am in Cartagena during your timing and could use a wingman.[/QUOTE]Let me know I'm by Laguito by the Hilton shoot me a message let's link up for a drink and go on a hunt.

[QUOTE=Hawk Eyes;1441908]I have gone through every post and don't see it nor can I find it by searching his name. Would be very helpful to have it or be directed to it or if possible reposted. Sorry I am an idiot but I tried. Going to Carta green and would appreciate the help.[/QUOTE]I am not being a smart ass when I post these same instructions again but I am going to capitalize for emphasis. I think I did a bad job explaining how to find it last time.

At the top of the WHITE part of THIS PAGF YOU ARE CURRENTLY READING you will see something very similar to what follows this sentence next to a HOME PAGE symbol:

Forum > South >America Colombia >Cartagena Reports. (there are arrows between the words but I cant type those arrows)

This signifies that you are in the FORUM, in the SOUTH AMERICA section, in the COLOMBIA Forum of the SOUTH AMERICA section and you are looking at CARTAGENA REPORTS.

Now I am giving you the shortcut to get to the CARTAGENA LISTS (where the link to Hillbilly69's Google map that he edited) reports for the COLOMBIA section of the SOUTH AMERICA section.

You go to the top of the white page you are currently on where you see that string of links;

Forum South America Colombia Cartagena Reports (with arrows in between and a HOME page symbol at the beginning)

It says Cartagena Reports at the end because you are reading Cartagena Reports, but you want to go to Cartagena Lists, so you:

Click on Colombia (which is between South America and Cartagena Reports ) to take you back to The Colombia Forum where all the City and region reports of Colombia are listed, where it lists Bogota Reports, Cartagena Reports, Cali Reports, Medellin Reports etc. All these items are next to images of envelopes (you will see when you get there)

So in that string of Links at the top of the white page you are on, the string of Links that looks similar to this:

Forum South America Colombia Cartagena Reports.

You click you mouse on "Colombia".

This takes you to the "Colombia Forum" where it lists Bogota Reports, Cartagena Reports, Cali Reports, Medellin Reports etc. All next to images of envelopes (you will see when you get there)

Once you are back in the Colombia Forum. Scroll down that list past where it says Bogota Reports, Cartagena Reports, Cali Reports, Medellin Reports etc to the 13th item that says "Cartagena Lists" CLICK ON Cartagena Lists.

Then scroll down and find Hillbilly69's post (it was the sixth post down from the last post it was posted on 4-9-13) , in his post he is talking about a restaurant called Requisimos, but at the bottom of his post is a link to his Map.

It looks like this:

[url]https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=U.06d2b411420a83[/url]

But the link I copy and paste is not a whole link because the post only shows part of it, so when I copy and paste it, it is not "Clickable" (I don't know why)

If you still cannot find it post again, and I will try to explain it better


I tried to click on the link to the map and when it took me to the map I copied the URL from my browser and it looks like this:

https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=202115846141467908565.0004a0706d2b411420a83&dg=feature

So if the moderator does not close this post because it should be in Cartagena lists, just copy and paste this in your browser

Sorry for the bother.

[QUOTE=Mojo Bandit; 1442057]I am not being a smart ass when I post these same instructions again but I am going to capitalize for emphasis. I think I did a bad job explaining how to find it last time.

At the top of the WHITE part of THIS PAGE YOU ARE CURRENTLY READING you will see something very similar to what follows this sentence next to a HOME PAGE symbol:

Forum South America Colombia Cartagena Reports. (there are arrows between the words but I can't type those arrows)...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Fun Pete;1441636]Interesting new rule at LDV: You must spend at least 100, 000 COP to take out the lady. So before I believe it was minimum 2 drinks with the lady. I had a beer 10k, the lady 2 margaritas at 20k each, total of 50k was not enough. She ordered another margarita me a Cuba libre, it was a little annoying. Why don't they just take a bar fine to make it easier? She told me it was the new rule set by Aldo (I think that is the owner?)[/QUOTE]A tried, and true method to beat this kind of BS is just to tell the girl to meet you outside after waiting 10 minutes.

Sounds to me old Aldo is getting to big for his britches.

[QUOTE=John Gault; 1442254]A tried, and true method to beat this kind of BS is just to tell the girl to meet you outside after waiting 10 minutes.

Sounds to me old Aldo is getting to big for his britches.[/QUOTE]I was wondering if this would work. So thanks for confirming that it would. On other occasions I have just hung out outside and caught a girl getting out of taxi, but that would require a lot of hanging out on the steps etc.

A little bit more detail to show how fucked up this new rule is, this happened to me twice:

I talk to a girl and ask her to join me at my table, it's like 1am or so. Girl orders a drink, like a Margarita. After 30 minutes or so of chit chatting I ask her if we should leave, and she tells me she needs to order 2 more drinks, per Aldo. She orders another Margarita, drinks it in a rush in a few minutes and orders another one, dirnks that one also in a few minutes so we can go. This happened to me with 2 girls. I like it when they get drunk, but in both cases the girls couldn't handle it and got too drunk to fast. First girl recovered after a little, so it was ok. Second girl, after an hour or so puked right onto my floor, she was very sorry and cleand up. The first girl gave me her number and I called her bypassing LDV completely, she came straight to my place.

I usually sit down at LDV and order a bottle of Rum and enjoy the night, the chica scene, and I am not a cheapo. No problem spending 100 COP, but I won't take this nonsense rule anymore, next time, when I am ready to leave, the girl can meet me outside after 10 minutes or so, or find herself another dude, I am not that desperate, there are plenty of other chicas in CTG to have. May be LDV should just require a bar fine of 50ok COP or so.

[QUOTE=Fun Pete; 1442388]A little bit more detail to show how fucked up this new rule is, this happened to me twice:

LDV should just require a bar fine of 50ok COP or so.[/QUOTE]I agree with you 100 % Fun Pete, check this out: I had a friend there who lives in Laguito investigate about that ridiculous new LDV policy and he told me that they would not charge a bar fine since the disco LDV was incorporated as a regular disco in Cartagena, the minute they charge that bar fine LDV will stop being a regular disco and immidiately become a working girl house, will that cause Aldo problems? Who knows? That is also why Tu candela disco won't let single females or girls they know very well whom sell booty get in the bar just to hook up with single males in there, however, the best way to go about it without making us all feel ripped off at LDV, it is to require a 10 dollar cover charge or whatever, and then who cares whether we buy a drink or not, at least we can choose and might feel like spending a lot money on drinks if we ain't obligated to buy drinks, ain't that right?

On the other hand, Aldo tells the girls the house needs to make money I understand that and thats why that rule was carried out but I don't think that hidden 100k minimum liquor consumption is fair, I am not a heavy drinker and don't mind buying the girls a drink, but I hate feeling obligated to buy drinks I won't have just to get a ***** out of there, I'd rather spend that money on more pussy myself LOL.

I wanted to check out Electra and went at 3am. The staff was very unfriendly, kind of desperate, right away they asked me about ordering a drink. First Cuba Libre had no rum in it, I think they just forgot to add it. Half hour later I am standing by the door and the dude at the door tells me I need to consume drinks. I told him I just finished a Cuba Libre. Then I went to the bar and made sure my next Cuba Libre had some rum in it! 15, 000 COP per drink, a small drink (you can buy a 375ml bottle of Medellin rum for 15, 000 COP)! They are getting desperate I guess not having to close again. Quite a few women, but lots of trash, I. E. Left overs who couldn't find a dude, and probably some girls trying to get a second dude. Also, many of the dudes were pretty drunk and quite aggravated for whatever reason (may be on other drugs). Usually I like to enjoy the music a little at Electra, but the place was just not my kind of place, so I left after an hour or so.

Tu Candela I really enjoyed the atmosphere and music. They had a handful working girls, very obvious to spot, they usually hang around the bar and will easily make eye contact. In fact two of them arrived at the door and kissed the dude at the door, so they were regulars. I was too tired from the previous night, just wanted to enjoy a few drinks and good Colombian music. Now this is the funny part: Many tourists also hang out at Tu Candela, and there was these two quite handsome dudes who hit at these two working girls, one of the girls quite good looking. Obviously, it was very easy to make contact with the girls; shortly after a big bottle of rum was ordered, and not too long after the dudes were dancing with the girls, holding hands, etc. The dudes looked very happy as they were sure they were going to score. Later on I saw them separated and the dudes did not look that happy anymore, I guess they found out there was a price to be paid. So even when you are good looking, the chicas will only go with you if you pay them or have some kind of benefit. If they want to screw around and have fun, they will do it with the locals.

Hey Fellas. Thought I'd post a quick first timers report of LDV from last night. I've read a lot of this forum lately and it seems like a lot of people post things like "LDV. We ALL know about that place" and then move on. I had a great, if slightly expensive (by regular board members standards) , time having some drinks in a pretty low pressure environment. I really liked the place and its an incredibly soft landing for a first timer to Cartagena.

Scene.

You walk up to this place and you'll immediately get a strip club vibe. There are doormen and a handful of hot women smoking cigs outside at all times. For a milli second it can be a little intimidating to go inside, but the scene is actually really really chill. The club doesn't get going till about 10 (really more like 11). Drinks tend to be pretty pricy but as other board memebers mentioned, you'll need to break the 100 COP barrier to take a girl out. Frankly, as a dude that came to party, I didn't find this to be a problem until I was back at the notel with the girl (more on this below). The girls will very rarely approach you unless you make eye contact and signal or go over and talk to them. I prefered this as it allow me to scope out the scene and see what I was dealing with. There is some dancing, but the night I was there, it was mostly for the girls to show off their bods and moves.

Girls.

The ratio of guys to girls here is crazy. There is maybe a 10 to 1 ratio of girls to guys at any time. Personally, I was paralized by the number of options and found it hard to settle on one. As a gringo that speaks almost no Spanish, I found it pretty difficult to converse with some of the girls. I spent a fair amount of time finding a girl that spoke even a little english and was willing to put in the effort to have an uggo conversation with me. For me that was preferable than silently hanging out with the hotest girl in the bar and building zero chemistry.

Negotiation note.

I get it. I don't speak Spanish and it was my first time, but the girl I ended up with quoted me 300 american at first. I gave the the WHAT? Face and said, you must be talking pesos right? We ended up at 300 pesos for three hours (I know that's expensive. Whatever). It seemed like a lot of the tourists were getting quotes in dollars, which I advised them all to ignore. Thanks to reading this board! I retrospect I probably could have battered her down to 200, that would have ruined a bit of the chemistry we had I think. 250 is probably the happy medium I should have gotten.

Extra Info.

The 100 COP problem didn't truely manifest itself until I brought the girl back to the pad. Like another poster mentioned my girl was really drunk. She probably weighed 82 pounds. We had a GREAT time for like one hour 30 and then she got really tired and slept for the rest. I don't blame her even a little here. Does anyone know if the rule is that the girl needs to have 2 drinks or the punter has to spend 100? I had spent 100 by then, but I don't think the girl knew it and was pretty insistent on another drink.

Does Anyone Know Anything About Fragma? It Is Listed On Hillybilly69's Map But All It Says Is "High End Chicas".

Does Anyone Know Any Details?

[QUOTE=Fun Pete;1442516]Tu Candela I really enjoyed the atmosphere and music. They had a handful working girls, very obvious to spot, they usually hang around the bar and will easily make eye contact. In fact two of them arrived at the door and kissed the dude at the door, so they were regulars. I was too tired from the previous night, just wanted to enjoy a few drinks and good Colombian music. Now this is the funny part: Many tourists also hang out at Tu Candela, and there was these two quite handsome dudes who hit at these two working girls, one of the girls quite good looking. Obviously, it was very easy to make contact with the girls; shortly after a big bottle of rum was ordered, and not too long after the dudes were dancing with the girls, holding hands, etc. The dudes looked very happy as they were sure they were going to score. Later on I saw them separated and the dudes did not look that happy anymore, I guess they found out there was a price to be paid. So even when you are good looking, the chicas will only go with you if you pay them or have some kind of benefit. If they want to screw around and have fun, they will do it with the locals.[/QUOTE]So your going to make a sweeping generalization / statement from 1 observation?

I am young and good looking and have pulled working girls for free all over Latin America and South East Asia.

Granted it doesn't work everytime, but it certainly happens from time to time.

And generally speaking Latin women prefer white men over local men (attractiveness).

You put a blonde haired blue eyed 25 year old stud next to a comparable local the blonde hair blue eyed dude will win that battle almost every time.

This is the complete opposite of a place like Korea where the women prefer local guys.

Most people are attracted to the exotic look or the unknown as the local features get bland and seem normal and repetitive after awhile.

Thanks for the updates Fun Pete. It looks like Cartagena is continuing to change. It is inevitable as Colombia gets wealthier and the exchange rate makes it so expensive for gringos, places like LDV and Elektra will suffer. It's surely just a matter of time before they shut down completely IMHO. A few years probably, but eventually. Still, make hay while the sun shines as they say.

[QUOTE=Fun Pete;1442516]Tu Candela I really enjoyed the atmosphere and music. They had a handful working girls, very obvious to spot, they usually hang around the bar and will easily make eye contact. In fact two of them arrived at the door and kissed the dude at the door, so they were regulars. I was too tired from the previous night, just wanted to enjoy a few drinks and good Colombian music. Now this is the funny part: Many tourists also hang out at Tu Candela, and there was these two quite handsome dudes who hit at these two working girls, one of the girls quite good looking. Obviously, it was very easy to make contact with the girls; shortly after a big bottle of rum was ordered, and not too long after the dudes were dancing with the girls, holding hands, etc. The dudes looked very happy as they were sure they were going to score. Later on I saw them separated and the dudes did not look that happy anymore, I guess they found out there was a price to be paid. So even when you are good looking, the chicas will only go with you if you pay them or have some kind of benefit. If they want to screw around and have fun, they will do it with the locals.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Artful; 1442770]. It is inevitable as Colombia gets wealthier and the exchange rate makes it so expensive for gringos, places like LDV and Elektra will suffer.

I do not think that Colombia is getting "Wealthier", considering that the GDP growth has been averaging around 4% and inflation eats about 1. 5 to 3. 5 percent of that, the most growth they are seeing is 2. 5, and most of that wealth goes to the Oil and Mining industry so I do not see how that increases the wealth of the average puta. They still have kids to feed, rent to pay, fathers who do not pay child support, and the ones who do not have kids still want those coach purses and new pair of shoes when they crawl out of bed with some gringo and make their way down to the mall.

I think that I can honestly see that the owner of LDV does not make the money that other bars make because guys do not come there to drink, they come to get women, and the women do not want to be too drunk because they want to make to Electra later to finish their work day, so people do not go to LDV to drink, what they should do is charge a 40. 000 COP cover charger and 40. 000 COP drink minimum, then they would be happy, the clients and the putas would not be forced to get drunk.

[QUOTE=CaliPro; 1442759]. I am young and good looking and have pulled working girls for free all over Latin America and South East Asia.

Granted it doesn't work everytime, but it certainly happens from time to time.[/QUOTE]Hey I'm not young or good looking, but I can pull them free too.

Maybe it's because I'm a cool MF. :)

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1442943]Hey I'm not young or good looking, but I can pull them free too.

Maybe it's because I'm a cool MF. .[/QUOTE]Personality plays a role in attraction as well.

Not all about looks.

Hi Mojo,

The fact that mongers don't go to LDV or ELektra to drink has always been true, but the place is much much quieter than before, so something must have changed. The most obvious reason is, as I said, the exchange rate which has made Colombia over twice as expensive for the tourists than when I first visited 7 or 8 years ago. As for the economy, the numbers I'm looking at tell me that GDP has grown 30% in 5 years. This means Colombia is getting much wealthier. You're right to say this takes a while to find its way down to the average working girl though, but it will eventually, bar any major economic crisis such as we saw in Argentina.

The additional factor effecting LDV and Elektra is Aldo's gambling habits. .

[QUOTE=Mojo Bandit; 1442926]

[QUOTE=Artful; 1442770]. It is inevitable as Colombia gets wealthier and the exchange rate makes it so expensive for gringos, places like LDV and Elektra will suffer.

I do not think that Colombia is getting "Wealthier", considering that the GDP growth has been averaging around 4% and inflation eats about 1. 5 to 3. 5 percent of that, the most growth they are seeing is 2. 5, and most of that wealth goes to the Oil and Mining industry so I do not see how that increases the wealth of the average puta. They still have kids to feed, rent to pay, fathers who do not pay child support, and the ones who do not have kids still want those coach purses and new pair of shoes when they crawl out of bed with some gringo and make their way down to the mall.

I think that I can honestly see that the owner of LDV does not make the money that other bars make because guys do not come there to drink, they come to get women, and the women do not want to be too drunk because they want to make to Electra later to finish their work day, so people do not go to LDV to drink, what they should do is charge a 40. 000 COP cover charger and 40. 000 COP drink minimum, then they would be happy, the clients and the putas would not be forced to get drunk.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Artful; 1443105]Hi Mojo,

The fact that mongers don't go to LDV or ELektra to drink has always been true, but the place is much much quieter than before, so something must have changed. The most obvious reason is, as I said, the exchange rate which has made Colombia over twice as expensive for the tourists than when I first visited 7 or 8 years ago. As for the economy, the numbers I'm looking at tell me that GDP has grown 30% in 5 years. This means Colombia is getting much wealthier. You're right to say this takes a while to find its way down to the average working girl though, but it will eventually, bar any major economic crisis such as we saw in Argentina.

The additional factor effecting LDV and Elektra is Aldo's gambling habits. .

[QUOTE=Mojo Bandit; 1442926][/QUOTE]Now that sheds some light on the subject! I never knew a business owner that had a gambling problem that kept their business.. and I have know a few

[QUOTE=Artful; 1443105]Hi Mojo,

The fact that mongers don't go to LDV or ELektra to drink has always been true, but the place is much much quieter than before,"[/QUOTE]


You say that the place is much "quieter" than before, does that mean less Chicas and Less Mongers? I have not been there since May of 2011, and I am heading down in less than two weeks.

Seems like the market / environment is ripe for a new freelance bar / club.

[QUOTE=Fun Pete;1442388]I usually sit down at LDV and order a bottle of Rum and enjoy the night, the chica scene, and I am not a cheapo. No problem spending 100 COP, but I won't take this nonsense rule anymore, next time, when I am ready to leave, the girl can meet me outside after 10 minutes or so, or find herself another dude, I am not that desperate, there are plenty of other chicas in CTG to have. May be LDV should just require a bar fine of 50ok COP or so.[/QUOTE]I usually do the same. Order a bottle, and enjoy the scene. I always seemed to find help drinking it. It's best though if the chica you are with doesn't drink the bottle herself since that becomes a waste of money in more ways than one. It's been a couple of years since I've last been to LDV, can you refresh my memory what a bottle of Medellin Anejo costs? I think my bar tab was usually north of 100K anyways.

[QUOTE=CaliPro; 1442964]Personality plays a role in attraction as well.

Not all about looks.[/QUOTE]Thanks Cali, I never could figure that out hehe. :)

[QUOTE=Ricker;1443340]Thanks Cali, I never could figure that out hehe.[/QUOTE]Just like I could never figure out you were a cool MF and could pull chicas for free.

[QUOTE=Ricardo Torres; 1443364]Maybe this will explain a few things Ricker! Tar Heel Bred was busted with his lies by a poster on the Colombian forum when he was posting about a trip he took in his dreams to Santa Marta I think two years ago, as he forgot what he previously had posted, and one of our members busted him using his own postings.

He also was recently busted on the Philippine board on several occasions, which is why he returned to post his fantasy experiences here on the Colombian forum.[/QUOTE]LOL what are you talking about? Please do us a favor and post a link to anyone busting me with lies. Would love to see that. And while your at it, get the links from the Philippines forum as well.

I'll be waiting. LOL

[QUOTE=Ricardo Torres; 1443364]Maybe this will explain a few things Ricker! Tar Heel Bred was busted with his lies by a poster on the Colombian forum when he was posting about a trip he took in his dreams to Santa Marta I think two years ago, as he forgot what he previously had posted, and one of our members busted him using his own postings.

He also was recently busted on the Philippine board on several occasions, which is why he returned to post his fantasy experiences here on the Colombian forum.[/QUOTE]The last time I checked this forum was for mongers, some guy talking about pulling chicas for free should go brag some place else. I'm not interested.

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Gents,

This is my first real post. I was in Cartagena for about a full week I took about 3k USD as it was a bit of cash for a business reference I did. I am from central America but reside in the state and I am a successful restaurant / hotel consultant and was looking at Cartagena as it is just booming (from my market analysis) 4 news Hotels 6 new hi rises (Modern Construction) Inflation is high in this city as you have three types of pricing before anything Price 1 Local price #2 A Gamble price if you look Latino you will get a lower quote #3 Gringo / Foreigner price. This falls for all categories restaurants / Bars, Dentist, Doctors, Stores, Street vendors ASK for price first always or your cash will fly 100 million pesos can go quickly $55 dollars give or take. I was in a condo which was the best no problems great people in el Laguito area. I will be going back and consult for a new Japanese / Peruvian / American fusion restaurant concept. None the less lets get down to the needy greedy.

Taxis Drivers (are not your friend)

They are out for Money! And can smell it on you. Prices from airport to hotel 15mil around the inner city 5 mil-6mil.

Brothels / Casas they get commission for taking you their all of them. They can get you girls but you'll never know what you will get. I was hammered my first night their.

And ask a cabby for a dime piece a 10 he brought me a 1 1/2 I could even get a hard on so I told my lobby guy if he wanted to take her down he proceeded as happy man! I could leave him in my room so I stayed and watched I'm not gay but shit mofo can steel my shoes and pradas or something. This man was on a mission pounded this broad for a good hour he later thanked me and said his wife was pregnant and he had not had a snatch in a while. Man was he grateful little things go along way with certain people.

Next Day went to playa Hollywood was approached by 3 guys named Tony on this beach most of the girls were ahh decent nothing wow 4-6. They insisted he had better quality nothing came and the man was sweating balls looking, calling tough to please. Gents this beach is known to the locals as la playa de prepagos (prepaid women) Nothing I liked till I was walking back to my rum a dark girl stacked (Black Colombian straight hair) ufff on high heels done! I approached her que haces (what are you doing) she replied waiting for you. I needed to take this beast down and ask her for Greek she look at me she said how big. I replied that she wouldn't shit right for a week! She got scared for a bit and replied how long I sad 3 hours she said 400 pesos =210 USD kind of steep but this beast in the USA is about $600. Took her to the condo took a Viagra (colombian replica ex something its over the counter) Pounded her made her a hole bleed this women was crying in pain but it just made me drill her harder! Neighbors came knocked on the door to see if everything was ok I gave them 50 million pesos and I said this will continue for 6 days they were happy and said get your moneys worth off these hoes (he was a 64 years old man). Long story short girl did good faced Banged the make up of her. Went to the Casino after Horos I believe met some cool cats Javier from Venezuela one crazy fun MOFO we drank whiskey all night he told the dealers things such as your husband is gay and will leave you for a man if she gave him a bad card LOL "all in fun "and Aldo owner of LDV (La Dolce Vida) he is Italian as I speak some Italian he's been in Cartagena for 20+ years funny guy.

Day 3.

I was on a mission called escorts 3 escorts service Gents don't do this these girls look like a 10 put 6-8 but can't take a pounding! Ordered about 3 and from all online services couldn't don't look like the pic bc they do not update consistently. One girl told me I had to message her Hell no you are not paying me so I gave it to her hard she was trying to escape clawing her way out overall dead bangs. 250 million pesos a pop $130 each. Played in the casino made some money.

Day 4.

Went to casa de Rocio in el bosque area I been to Cartagena a few times met some cool people Samir is the man dark skinned chubby bar man. Prices are fair $60 USD nice chicks 6-8 I'd give them. I took him a gift a cologne he took care of me last trip. I told him I was "arrecho" meaning brutally horny and I need 3 of his finest at the same time. Done deal the chicks have their own room so they had party favors. I bent them all over put a little "backing soda if you know what I mean in their cracks" and boom had a full fledged party ordered a bottle of whiskey to the head. By round to the backing soda got me and could not perform and the chicks went at it themselves DAMN!

Day 5.

Went to EZ stay the fuck out this place is a rip off in el centro! Too expensive went to Angeles this place was good before but the owner is in jail and it just had some not that great chicks! Took of to la bomba de amparo cheap place nice local chicks great place area a bit shady but I am brave soul! This was my kind of place 100 pesos. 160 pesos a pop took down six no Greek! So was a bit upset as that's my thing.

Day 6 Last night had to go all out picked up a few numbers from Pleyboy gents these Women are beast! Clydesdale built strong called her to come in the Am to my room told what I wanted 1. Hog tie her 2. Greek. 3. Light Slap and dirty talk man did she deliver I wanted to marry this broad as she begged for more had to pop 1 Viagra to make sure she remembers my name. She even gave me a rusty trombone and then I put her to sleep. I couldn't feel my legs (she fell asleep hog tied) woke her up told her to call some friends to keep this shit going she called two friends once I opened the door I took another pill (10 beast) surely 2k call girls each per hour in the states. Went crazy on these women as they all excepted greek and slaping each other spit all over the mirrors, chocking man I am a sick man! LOL Till the next morning this joke cost me $230 each chick well worth the money!

Day 7.

Now my budget was slim Cartagena is a expensive city so had one chick before my flight told her to give me BBBJ for 2 hours $75 USD told her if she did Greek she said never! Will really not even for a new Samsung galaxy took her down. They love phones! She left crying in pain she probably won't shit right for a month. Had to pay the maid a nice tip for the mess underwear on the fan, condoms, bloody sheets, paraphernalia, cigars, stains what a mess.

Great trip but if you want to dream big you need to spend big and then you have your non expensive but the crazier you are the more you spend! Feel free to contact me for any info I will be back next month or in two latest for the build out of a club!

Picked up a few chicks for free but damn rookies rather pay for the pros straight to the point! No yes maybe shit.

Happy hunting's

75, 000 COP for a 375ml Ron Medellin 3 anjo. Last time I was sitting with a chica who only had one drink, she was not a big drinker. But every 5 minutes some chica would come by, smile and ask if she can take a shot. In the end, more than half the bottle was left and no problem finding takers. The chica, who did not get that drunk was a great performer, I was actually amazed. Usually, I find chicas who love to get drunk over time and open up enjoying a fun night, I have had quite a few of those in the past.

[QUOTE=Hoser352;1443333]I usually do the same. Order a bottle, and enjoy the scene. I always seemed to find help drinking it. It's best though if the chica you are with doesn't drink the bottle herself since that becomes a waste of money in more ways than one. It's been a couple of years since I've last been to LDV, can you refresh my memory what a bottle of Medellin Anejo costs? I think my bar tab was usually north of 100K anyways.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, sure, it can be done. Even in the US or wherever, if you are young and good looking it can be done. But when you go to a club, walk to the bar and within 2 minutes a hot looking girl you hit on is almost all over you, you can be sure there is more to than she liking you.

Anyway, my point really was that yes, at Tu Candela there are pros, but only a few that only seem to get in there through some connection. If you are into the game, it's pretty clear to see which ones are pro and which ones not.

[QUOTE=CaliPro; 1443539]You should take the time to read.

The only reason I mentioned it was due to a poster saying that it can't be done, which was bs and I called him out on it.

The guy made a sweeping false generalization from one observation.[/QUOTE]

I am heading to Cartagena for my first trip to Colombia in a few weeks and have been reading through page after page of this forum but I haven't seen a whole lot of info about casas. I'm not planning to spend a long amount time with these girls and I don't really want to even bother with the hassle of trying to bring them to my hotel room so what are my options for casas or just ST hotels in general where you can pay by the hour? Yes, I've seen Hillbilly69's famous map, and while definitely a gold mine, doesn't really list many kinds of places that I described above. I'd prefer just a simple working girl-house for the convenience but if I end up picking up chicas, where or what would be some good hour-by-hour hotels to use?

I've also been seeing plenty of posts about the brutal exchange rates etc etc but isn't it possible to just withdraw COP directly from a branch of one's bank or ATM without having to lose money (other than the ATM fees obviously)? I've read elsewhere that people do this but it takes a while to get the money because they need to confirm your identity and what not. Personally, I'd rather take the extra time to get the money than lose a hefty percentage of it at the exchanges. Some info on the reality of doing this would greatly be appreciated.

As far as party favors go in Colombia, I assumed top notch stuff would be fairly easy to acquire but from some of the posts I've read on here, it seems to be rather difficult finding pure gear. I'd just like to know where I should search for it and what kind of vendors I should avoid if I am trying to find the good stuff.

Lastly, are there any good casinos in town for games like texas hold them or 5 card? I love a few hands of poker.

A girl I met at the beach confirmed almost exactly what you wrote. She told me they are cheapos, walk into LDV / Elektra and order one beer for 4 guys, or no drinks at all, and that some of them aren't allowed in anymore. I mean they really don't have money, most of them had to spend 3 years or so of hard life at the Israeli armee, for very little money, so in Colombia they spend some time reliefing from all the drama they went through.

Then she started talking about Casa Benjamin, that sometimes chicas, when they have no customers, go there to get drugged with Marijuana, Cocaine and cripa. Apparently the Israelis themselves are also heavy drug users. I once saw myself at Plaza Cochez where the low end street walkers hang around, at 1am or so four young Israelis walked over to them talked and left with two of the girl. I can't tell what kind of deal they made, however, those two girls looked very low life, very "used" and screwed up, I would never put my hands on them, not even if they paid me.

[QUOTE=Black Page; 1403329]I do not think Casa Benjamin and Casa Golan were ever even mentioned here, but I do think it's worth to let you know.

Casa Benjamin is a house at Laguito, sea side, almost in front of the police post, after the last calle to the sea (where's Dona Marciana). You see "BENJAMIN" written in large letters on the front.

There is an anonymous door, always closed. To open, people must ring the bell. It's kind of hotel, where patrons are only guys from Israel. I've seen some of them, young and fit. I guess that they must come from the army or something. (All Israelitis come from Army, but they look definitely in service to me).

So what's the point to mention this place in ISG?

Now that Elektra is closed, many girls like to go there at night. It's not open to men, that is hobby players like us. Only to girls, to the sole benefit of hotel guests. Do they pay well? Apparently not, but this place is famous among CTG working girls because of the widest choice of drugs freely circulating there, including the worst: cripa, coca, synthetic, mixes of coca and other things to smoke, etc etc.

A girl told me that some girls even fuck for free there at early morning, just because of the hype.

I did not see Casa Golan, but I heard it's the same kind of place: open to tourists from Isreal, famous for sex&drugs parties every night.

I saw the place from the sea, passing by on a boat. It looks anonymous. Two girls were sitting on the terrace. It reminded me a place like the Mansion in MDE, with girls and guests freely meeting, if it was not for the drugs (no drugs at Mansion).

This place makes me feel bad and nervous. Only girls allowed to enter the door, which is permanently and discretely closed. How could it be tolerated by the authorities? Everyone knows the amount of drugs that are sold and consumed there every night, but they must have some good friend located high.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Blizz Man;1444421]I am heading to Cartagena.[/QUOTE]Hi Blizz man, as a first timer you may need a local to show around that way you can get a full experience and a good feel of CTG not just Laguito, Hollywood beach, there is more fun than simply those place for mongers, there are some available wingmen and tour guides recommended on this website, combine the knowlodge of a trustworthy local with Hillbilly's map so that you can achieve all you need and get to all the casas.

Last time I went to a new casa called something like "Donde Matta" I didn't like its location though, I was going to write a report about it but didn't think it was worth doing. Maybe you can find out more about it among others that should be added to the map, there is another one that had young sexy chicas they were all 7 or 9 to me I was way too drunk so couldn't catch the name of that place

[QUOTE=Blizz Man; 1444421]owhat are my options for casas or just ST hotels in general where you can pay by the hour? Yes, I've seen Hillbilly69's famous map, and while definitely a gold mine, doesn't really list many kinds of places that I described above. I'd prefer just a simple working girl-house for the convenience but if I end up picking up chicas, where or what would be some good hour-by-hour hotels to use?

I've also been seeing plenty of posts about the brutal exchange rates etc etc but isn't it possible to just withdraw COP directly from a branch of one's bank or ATM without having to lose money (other than the ATM fees obviously)? I've read elsewhere that people do this but it takes a while to get the money because they need to confirm your identity and what not. Personally, I'd rather take the extra time to get the money than lose a hefty percentage of it at the exchanges. Some info on the reality of doing this would greatly be appreciated.[/QUOTE]


If you are with a chica and want an hour-by-hour hotel; Ask a taxi driver to take you to "Hotel Economico". Say "Llevarnos a un hotel economico" which to the best of my ability to write pronunciation is pronounced "yea-bvarnoes ah une hotel econ OH mee koe" thats the best I can do with the phonetics. Maybe you speak spanish, but if you do not, there is no sound in english like the "V" in spanish it is combination of the B and V sound in english but is not exatly either, so if you say them together BV, it is close enough.

I use the ATM always, In France, Mexico, Colombia, Italy, Thailand, Kenya, and Tanzania. Always cover your hand when you punch in your PIN, because it there is a Coloning device in the ATM machine, there is probably a camera watching for your PIN. Also let your bank know you are traveling if you are going to use a Visa, Mastercard etc, so they do not cancel your card. My Capital one card has place on their website to set travel alerts.

[QUOTE=Blizz Man; 1444421]I am heading to Cartagena for my first trip to Colombia in a few weeks and have been reading through page after page of this forum but I haven't seen a whole lot of info about casas. I'm not planning to spend a long amount time with these girls and I don't really want to even bother with the hassle of trying to bring them to my hotel room so what are my options for casas or just ST hotels in general where you can pay by the hour? Yes, I've seen Hillbilly69's famous map, and while definitely a gold mine, doesn't really list many kinds of places that I described above. I'd prefer just a simple working girl-house for the convenience but if I end up picking up chicas, where or what would be some good hour-by-hour hotels to use?



I've also been seeing plenty of posts about the brutal exchange rates etc etc but isn't it possible to just withdraw COP directly from a branch of one's bank or ATM without having to lose money (other than the ATM fees obviously)? I've read elsewhere that people do this but it takes a while to get the money because they need to confirm your identity and what not. Personally, I'd rather take the extra time to get the money than lose a hefty percentage of it at the exchanges. Some info on the reality of doing this would greatly be appreciated.



As far as party favors go in Colombia, I assumed top notch stuff would be fairly easy to acquire but from some of the posts I've read on here, it seems to be rather difficult finding pure gear. I'd just like to know where I should search for it and what kind of vendors I should avoid if I am trying to find the good stuff.



Lastly, are there any good casinos in town for games like texas hold them or 5 card? I love a few hands of poker.[/QUOTE]

El Pueblito at San Martin and Calle 5, lots of others along Carrera 3 between Calles 4 and 6 all in Boca Grande.
The casino is near the above love hotel, isn't it convenient, eh?
No, it is impossible. Your debit or credit card exchange cost (not a loss) is 2. 5% of the current rate.
Your gear question is against the rules of this forum.

[QUOTE=Fun Pete; 1444479]A girl I met at the beach confirmed almost exactly what you wrote. She told me they are cheapos, walk into LDV / Elektra and order one beer for 4 guys, or no drinks at all, and that some of them aren't allowed in anymore. I mean they really don't have money, most of them had to spend 3 years or so of hard life at the Israeli armee, for very little money, so in Colombia they spend some time reliefing from all the drama they went through.

Then she started talking about Casa Benjamin, that sometimes chicas, when they have no customers, go there to get drugged with Marijuana, Cocaine and cripa. Apparently the Israelis themselves are also heavy drug users. I once saw myself at Plaza Cochez where the low end street walkers hang around, at 1am or so four young Israelis walked over to them talked and left with two of the girl. I can't tell what kind of deal they made, however, those two girls looked very low life, very "used" and screwed up, I would never put my hands on them, not even if they paid me.[/QUOTE]Unless you understand the culture and language and able to make clear judgement of particular fellow travelers or expats, stay away.

Can anyone tell me if Electra is currently closed. I saw post in March saying it was closed, then I saw later posts where the poster was worried that it would "close again", so I am wandering if it reopened after March and is currently open?

It was open last week, but I left ater 30 minutes or so, too much agression in there, lots of drugged people, leftover girls, girls looking for their second round, not the same vibe it had in previous years.

[QUOTE=Mojo Bandit;1445025]Can anyone tell me if Electra is currently closed. I saw post in March saying it was closed, then I saw later posts where the poster was worried that it would "close again", so I am wandering if it reopened after March and is currently open?[/QUOTE]

Sure there are girls for pickup at the beach. I went there late afternoon, saw one chica with a really nice body (right on playa prepago / Hollywood) , as I looked at her, her friend sitting nearby started waving at me. I walked over and sat down. We chit chatted, watched the awsome sunset and when I asked them if they would like to meet me up for dinner, they were very happy; no Toni or so involved, in fact some dude came over aggressively (probably one of the many Tonis) trying to sell us beer, coktails etc, but I said no, and the girls told him to leave. We met for dinner at 9pm, and from there, I took one of them with me, had a great night (yes, I did pay her). I also noticed several girls who I had seen at LDV hang around there. I can't tell if all girls are prepago there, but you just need to try and use your own judgement.

[QUOTE=Questner; 1418222]You won't find girls at the beach.

Describe to Tony exactly what are looking for.

Tell him how much you will pay her, how much you will pay for the taxi etc.

In Tony's mind he wants to make at least 100K from this appointment, all cut from direct fees, drinks margin, taxi, a cut from the girl etc. Your total bill should be close to 200K all included, Tony and a girl and this is a fairdeal. You have to be tough and explain to him when you won't pay anything, like when she won't meet your expectations in person. Here is an example. You pay to the girl 150K taxi included for day ST. 30K out of it goes to T. You pay T. Directly 50K for 'a beer'. Tony's driver will pick up the girl and drive her back. Once with a girl turn off her and yours mobile phones.[/QUOTE]

T.

[QUOTE=Fun Pete;1445136]It was open last week, but I left ater 30 minutes or so, too much agression in there, lots of drugged people, leftover girls, girls looking for their second round, not the same vibe it had in previous years.[/QUOTE]Thanks Answering My Post. That Really Sucks About Elektra. Last Time I Was There Two Years Ago It Was Very Happening. I'll Be In Cartagena Wednesday Next Week. LDV Will Be My First Stop. If You Are Still Around Look Me. I'm Close To Fifty than Forty. I'm Mostly Bald On ToP. Have A Big Gut. I'll Buy You Two Of Whatever You're Drinking. Plus I Am In Need Of More Information About the Playa Hollywood Scene HowTo Rent Table / Cabana While Avoiding Toni.

In my last post I was asking about Playa Hollywood. I have been through that beach area before and it is hard to distinguish where one can go to ask about renting chairs and a cabana (or whatever those things are called that block the sun) I have been warned not to sit in the umbrella types by Hillbilly69 because these are Toni's. I do not have any desire to do business with a middle man, I want to talk to Chica's myself. But I do not know who to approach about renting non Tony chairs and cabanas.

How do they enforce this new minimum alcohol amount at LDV? I am still a bit confused as to the change.

Looks like someone needs to make a new free lance spot.

Anyone know if the strip club Lucitania is still closed in Barranquilla?

Basically, the waiters and Mr. Aldo keep an eye on girls who sit with customers. When you pay your bill the waiter will know very well how much you spent. Now, if the girl leaves with you, not meeting the minimum drinking requirement, they won't stop her. However, next time she shows up Mr. Aldo won't let her in and ban her for a few days.

I stayed with one very sweet girl for a few days, before she went home to some small town in the south; I asked her all about the LDV stuff we keep reading. She told me something like "Aldo mucho molesta las chicas." that he keeps telling them to get customers buy drinks. He also demands when they don't have customers for the night to show up at 3am at Electra. If girls don't comply with his demands he will penalize them like not allowing them into LDV for 2 days or so. I also asked her if "Aldo, mucho tiempo a la casino" and she said like "si, mucho, mucho, mucho, todo dia."

There seem to be also a good amount of regular girls that show up at LDV every night and who don't seem to have to meet these minimum criteria, as they seem loyal to Aldo anyway. I think he enforces these rules only on the chicas who show up once in a while, or who come to town for a few weeks to make money and leave. At least that's how I observed it.



[QUOTE=CaliPro; 1445884]How do they enforce this new minimum alcohol amount at LDV? I am still a bit confused as to the change.

Looks like someone needs to make a new free lance spot.

Anyone know if the strip club Lucitania is still closed in Barranquilla?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Fun Pete; 1446205]Basically, the waiters and Mr. Aldo keep an eye on girls who sit with customers. When you pay your bill the waiter will know very well how much you spent. Now, if the girl leaves with you, not meeting the minimum drinking requirement, they won't stop her. However, next time she shows up Mr. Aldo won't let her in and ban her for a few days.

I stayed with one very sweet girl for a few days, before she went home to some small town in the south; I asked her all about the LDV stuff we keep reading. She told me something like "Aldo mucho molesta las chicas." that he keeps telling them to get customers buy drinks. He also demands when they don't have customers for the night to show up at 3am at Electra...[/QUOTE]Seems the best thing to do would be to leave at seperate times.

Who is this Aldo guy? He is an older Italian fella or Colombian?

So in case you didn't know, Colombia serves no alcohol during election weekends. This just happened in Cartagena, electoin day, I believe for a new mayor. Yesterday, I was wondering why the supermarket had marked off the alcohol area; today I was wondering why it was all empty on Plaza Coches, Fidel closed, Tu Candela closed, in fact all of centro historico was super quiet. All bars, clubs were closed, including LDV. Finally I asked the portier at my apartment building and he told me.

A suggestion to everybody that is feed up with LDV just go to El Paraiso del Marino, the locals just call it Club Marino. Better looking girls and better service. Just take a taxi its about 15-20 000 cop and just as many minutes' drive from the clock tower. Do not pay more, prices for the chicas are 100 000 – 150 000 (30 min) depending on negotiation skills and great rooms.

Regards,

Wreckdiver

[QUOTE=WreckDiver; 1446458]A suggestion to everybody that is feed up with LDV just go to El Paraiso del Marino, the locals just call it Club Marino. Better looking girls and better service. Just take a taxi its about 15-20 000 cop and just as many minutes' drive from the clock tower. Do not pay more, prices for the chicas are 100 000 – 150 000 (30 min) depending on negotiation skills and great rooms.

Regards,

Wreckdiver[/QUOTE]Can you describe this place? Is it a casa, strip club, or free lance bar / club?

[QUOTE=CaliPro;1446573]Can you describe this place? Is it a casa, strip club, or free lance bar / club?[/QUOTE]They have a facebook page, google it as Paraiso del Marino club

[QUOTE=CaliPro;1446573]Can you describe this place? Is it a casa, strip club, or free lance bar / club?[/QUOTE]I forgot to answer your questions, it isn't a freelance bar, it is a strip joint, you pay a multa upfront and take who you like, no minimum liquor consumption rules, it can be a place a bit more like pleyclub, lots of chicas with some plastic but there are some other ones completely natural, chicas for all tastes I'd say, every time I visited there I happened to run into a few hot chicas that appear in sex movies on Culioneros (dot) com, great experience there.

I arrived in Cartagena yesterday, went to the ATM to get money to get a taxi to the apartment. The ATM would not take my credit card. Had to take the $40 us dollars to exchange to get pesos for taxi. I tried another ATM near the apartment, and again it does not work! So I try an online transaction with my ATM card on Amazon. Rejected!

I had called my Bank a week before and told them when I was traveling to Colombia! And yet they still froze my card. I use verizon cell phone and it does not work in Colombia. So I was stressed. Then I finally realize that I can use Skype (I used a credit card to add minutes because they charge for calls to a phone) because I discover that my laptop has a built in microphone (I got lucky). So I call the bank. And after waiting on hold and asking what use was it ti call them and tell them that I am going to be traveling if they are going to sabotage my trip! Eventually they ask me to verify that I tried to used the card at an ATM in Colombia and they release the freeze on my card.

This was my third trip to Cartagena and I have been to Italy, Mexico, France, Thailand, Tanzania, and Kenya. Used my ATM card every where without a glitch. And on my Third trip to Colombia and after I called and told them that I was going to Colombia. They froze my card.

So for anyone coming to Colombia I advise to bring backup cash to exchange and some plan to call your bank if they freeze your card

[QUOTE=Mojo Bandit;1447589]So for anyone coming to Colombia I advise to bring backup cash to exchange and some plan to call your bank if they freeze your card[/QUOTE]Your advice is about Colombia or about your bank? :D

[QUOTE=Black Page;1447650]Your advice is about Colombia or about your bank? :D[/QUOTE]Since many Banks use a third party company for fraud prevention (My sister works for a fraud prevention company) , and since my landlord here in Colombia says this has happened to many of his clients, I say it is about using ATM in Colombia... my landlord said that it happens because Colombia is marked by fraud prevention people as a place that Cards are frozen because they think they get cloned here.

[QUOTE=Mojo Bandit;1447738]Since many Banks use a third party company for fraud prevention (My sister works for a fraud prevention company) , and since my landlord here in Colombia says this has happened to many of his clients, I say it is about using ATM in Colombia. my landlord said that it happens because Colombia is marked by fraud prevention people as a place that Cards are frozen because they think they get cloned here.[/QUOTE]I would never travel out of the country and certainly not to a third world country without a significant knot of cash AND two credit or debit cards. Relying on just a piece of plastic thousands of miles from home is just foolish to me, no offense. I bring enough money for a few days food and hotel and a plane ticket home in case the shit hits the fan one way or another. Upon leaving the airport of my final destination I split up the cash and cards and put them in three different spots on my person and carry on so I know that if I am robbed they aren't getting all three.

I went to check out LDV tonight. I was sadly disappointed. The quality is not what it was two years ago. Maybe I'll try back on the weekend. But really the last time I was there I was like a kid in a candy store, trying to decide between which hot chica I wanted. Tonight all I seen was 6's 7's and a sprinkle of eights. The one eight that was not taken is the one that I took back to my apartment. The one thing I will add is that right away the bidding did not start a the usual 350 mil that it did the last time I was here. So I bargained her down to to 175 mil, which never happened on my past two trips here, but that is just my experience. There were more chicas than guys by a decent margin, so it was a buyers market tonight.

As for the 100 mil spending minimum, it didn't come into play because I easily spent that pretty quick. The first two chicas I sat with I ordered drinks for them and one for me, then I sat with two other chicas and bought two more rounds, and it happens fast as far as the 100 mil spending. I took 100 mil with me, and took a chica home when it was gone. $50 bucks is what 100 mil equals and that is not hard to spend in any bar. The drinks there seemed overpriced, but access to hot chicas is what they are really selling. I spent $25 USD at cafe del mar for 2 tequilas and two beers. I've heard of guys saying that the chica they were with had to drink too much etc, but I figure just spread it around. buy some chicas some drinks, the bar gets the propina and you get access to freelance chicas. My problem with the casas is that the time limit sucks, when I pick up a chica in LDV, never has she just stayed for the hour that we agreed, it usually becomes two hours easily, some drinks, some forplay and then the business. So for me the 100 mil is no big deal.

Anyway I am going to venture a little in the few days that I am here, probably check out Elektra and see what other action is around that is freelance. And if anyone can tell me about some casa that has stunners. With coke bottle bodies that charge what the freelance chicas charge then I will be there.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1447753]I would never travel out of the country and certainly not to a third world country without a significant knot of cash AND two credit or debit cards. Relying on just a piece of plastic thousands of miles from home is just foolish to me, no offense. I bring enough money for a few days food and hotel and a plane ticket home in case the shit hits the fan one way or another. Upon leaving the airport of my final destination I split up the cash and cards and put them in three different spots on my person and carry on so I know that if I am robbed they aren't getting all three.[/QUOTE]Totally agree with that, except that I cannot feel Colombia as a "third world country", meaning that it is on the same category as Central Africa or the like. Actually, they cloned my card in Europe, and two times it was blocked because used at a "compromised" merchant (but not cloned anyway) , but my cards were never blocked after using them in Colombia.

I travel anywhere with 3 cards: 2 credit (Visa, Mastercard) and one debit (Maestro) , but little or no cash to limit damage in case of rob.

I must say that in Colombia NOT ALL ATMs allow me to withdraw cash with my Maestro card. Some large banks, mysteriously, seem not in good communication with my bank or the Maestro circuit. If you guys try your card in an ATM and your card is declined, I suggest to not panic and just make a tour of different ATMs.

[QUOTE=Black Page;1447949]Totally agree with that, except that I cannot feel Colombia as a "third world country", meaning that it is on the same category as Central Africa or the like. Actually, they cloned my card in Europe, .[/QUOTE]My landlord here in Colombia said that the only time his card was cloned was somewhere in USA

I skipped LDV tonight, went walking through Centro and about 1am I walked by the Clock Tower, to the benches near Tu Candela, most of the chicas were lower grade. 5s 6s and 7s, so since I was tired, I decided to stop looking at their faces and started looking strictly at the bodies. One blond had a a tight little body with a decent rack. The looked to round to be real but the phenomenon I have seen in Colombia is these chicks tits look fake but feel real. I don't know if they have phenomenal genes or phenomenal plastic surgeons that use a different silicon than in the USA. Anyway mi gusta mucho these titties so I made some small talk and asked for a price. 150 mil is where the bidding starts ended with 125 mil pesos. Good service. Bbj. Great effort. I usually just go for 8s to 9s. Rarely see a ten. But the service made up for the looks. Tomorrow my plan is to survey LDV and Elektra. If the sky clears some (nasty weather here today. Some fierce winds and pounding rain, El Laguito lived up to its name as the streets all turned into little lakes) so if the sky clears I will check out Playa Hollywood.

So I posted earlier that I my strategy to meet the requirement at LDV was to spread the love and buy a few woman drinks, I set aside 100mil and spend it on drinks as I talk to different Chicas. Tonight it did not take long to find my target. There was only one "hottie" in the place, she was very very well built. face was a nine. And the body was a Ten on my score card. Very cute little number from the back country of Bucaramanga. Gorgeous. And the service was very decent also. BBJ. A few different positions. the only bad part was that she was a clock watcher. Damage was high also. 200mil.

So I had been reading about the new policy here on the board. So I had been going to buy drinks three at a time to the tune of thirty six mill a trip. So three trips and I have met the expected mark. So tonight I did not want to drink, so I ordered 7 Up when I was buying the chicas whiskeys. I wanted to get this hottie while I was sober and enjoy it. Plus I was tired cause earlier I did the tourista thing and walked around the old city taking pictures trying out my new wide angle lens. So I am on my way out with the chica and one of the bouncers or whatever said Something in spanish that included "senior" and " mas cerveza". I was obviously irritated when I said "no" and because I do not speak fluent or even conversational Spanish... I said in a sarcastic tone "I don't think so". Then I went to the bartender and said in my muy mal espanol." yo pago mucho dinero. Si?". And he nodded yes to the bouncer character and that was the end of it. But before that even happened. The chica I was leaving with went to talk to one of the workers and I could neither hear nor understand what they were saying. But I got the impression that they were negotiating whether or not she could leave with me. And the final verdict was yes. Because we did. But yes LDV is turned into a hassle. Because I met the expected spending and still I got hassled.

I am thankful for the members on this forum who reported the new "rule" because had I not known what was going on, they might have hassled me into drinking when did not want to or just leaving pissed off and with no chica... instead of knowing to have the bartender to back up my spending...

Followed by Electra, LDV by far is the most boring and depressive spots I visited over the world for the purpose of this forum. In my view high cost of alcohol plays the major role.

[QUOTE=Questner;1449008]Followed by Electra, LDV by far is the most boring and depressive spots I visited over the world for the purpose of this forum. In my view high cost of alcohol plays the major role.[/QUOTE]OK, tell me the best place, and I'll go there.

[QUOTE=Hoser352;1449386]OK, tell me the best place, and I'll go there.[/QUOTE]I know I am sort of butting in here between you and Questner, but if you are sincerely asking what is the best place in the world than I will throw in my two cents worth. I have only really mongered in two countries, Colombia (and only Cartagena) and Thailand. For quality based on looks alone. I pick Colombia hands down (their bodies are spectacular). For quantity, price, and service its Thailand. I visited Patong Beach and Bangkok (the quantity would blow your mind if you've never been there, and some of the women are gorgeous, but their bodies are small. Mostly no breast with the occasional. I think that the best I did was a girl in Patong Beach girl had a tight little body with decent rack. But I have yet to make a trip to Medellin, two years ago when I first visited LDV, I was in paradise. Plenty of gorgeous perfectly built woman, but now the quality has dropped off, maybe I hit a bad week. The women certainly outnumber the men, but now its all 6s and 7s. Last time it was 8s and 9s. Plenty of women with nice bodies, but I like a pretty face to go with the bod. The set up at LDV is what I like also. You can walk around and take your time choosing. But my experience is limited, if the quality goes back up I may return, but in the mean time. I'm studying Medellin

[QUOTE=Ricardo Torres;1449404]Hey Mojo, appreciate your posts but I believe Hoser was being sarcastic as the post by Questner makes him look like a clueless dude if what he posted about LDV is actually how he feels.[/QUOTE]Once I was a clueless dude indeed when many years ago medical students in Medellin were chopping homeless and selling their parts $20 per leg or arm.

[QUOTE=Hoser352;1449386]OK, tell me the best place, and I'll go there.[/QUOTE]The best place for FUN (and here LDV earns a steady zero) will be today in Angeles City.

[QUOTE=Questner;1449426]The best place for FUN (and here LDV earns a steady zero) will be today in Angeles City.[/QUOTE]Be Honest: are there any women in the Philippines with the HourGlass 36-26-36 figures?

[QUOTE=Ricardo Torres;1449404]Hey Mojo, appreciate your posts but I believe Hoser was being sarcastic as the post by Questner makes him look like a clueless dude if what he posted about LDV is actually how he feels.[/QUOTE]True, I was being sarcastic, but I am also interested in Questner's favorite place. Philippines is on my list for sure, but just a little bit inconvenient. So I will be true to my word and visit Angeles City in the future. I like LDV (and CTG) so I will be there late Nov for my 3rd visit. For 2014, considering Medellin, maybe the Philippines. Been to Thailand twice so obviously I like Thai girls. They're same same, but different.

[QUOTE=Mojo Bandit;1449454]Be Honest: are there any women in the Philippines with the HourGlass 36-26-36 figures?[/QUOTE]Hour Glass, pain in the ass. There are a lot of fine ladies in the PI, however Gran Colombia is the place for beauty. As for FUN, once done with a massive pool party in AC or beach party in Subic, you'll know the difference in FUN.

[QUOTE=Questner;1449816]There are a lot of fine ladies in the PI, however Gran Colombia is the place for beauty.[/QUOTE]Why does Questner Come to Cartagena?

I think Questner answered the question: Gran Colombia is the place for Beauty;

[QUOTE=Coronel;1407575]More photos for your review.[/QUOTE]Who is the girl on the left.

Thanks

Hi. I read several posts re: the new "rule" at LDV and just wanted to confirm as I am not so clear on this. So if I am going to take a girl out of LDV, I need to spend 100,000 COP or roughly $53.00 USD on drinks before any of the girls can go? So they build a tab for me and if I am at $38.75 it's a no go? They should just bar fine like Bangkok. Anyways, please let me know. Why can't the girl just slip out the door and meet me in the street? Or come by later? Sorry for the confusion but am heading there this week and would like as much solid info posssible. Thanks for all the posts as this board has been making my hobby easier for years.

Hi Loverio,

You and the girl can leave separately and meet in the street. If they suspect she is leaving separately to avoid Aldo's minimum drink buy, they will restrict her from returning to the bar for several days as punishment. An alternative is to meet girls just outside LDV, before they go in or after they come out. Aldo can't do bar fines because his license is for a traditional disco, not a brothel.

One experience I had in Cartagena that I think I forgot to add to my post a few weeks ago. My taxi got stopped by the cops and they had me get out of the car and they frisked me, then they let us go. I was leaving the old city and heading toward Bocagrande, and just after we got out on the main road that leads to Bocagrande, there was sort of road block and the cops had us pull over, I was with a chica that I had met in front of Tu Candela on plaza de coches, but I (the Gringo) was the only one required to get out of the car and be frisked. Obviously I was clean, and they let me get back in the car and they let us go. I have been at stops like this in Cartagena before when they just looked in the car, saw a gringo, and waved the taxi on. So this time the only part I thought was strange was that I was the only one required to get out and be frisked.

[QUOTE=Questner;1449008]Followed by Electra, LDV by far is the most boring and depressive spots I visited over the world for the purpose of this forum. In my view high cost of alcohol plays the major role.[/QUOTE]I can confirm this. I've only been to Cartagena but the visitor to Colombia must be aware that Colombians in Cartagena in the tourism industry specialize in sucking money out of tourists. LDV chicas are idiots. Quick story. Went into LDV on a Tuesday night. There were probably about 30-50 extremely hot chicas and 3-5 guys. I talk to one that would not go down from 200k for one shot. Plus they always try and bring you drinks and have insane consumption rules. Needless to say I wait until LDV closes, go to Elektra, hang out with same girls and price goes down to 150k. Most of these chicas go there every night and go home empty handed.

Quick screening tip that worked for me after I learnt: ask a girl in LDV where she is from / staying. If she lives in Cartagena and stays in Boca Grande or El Laguito take a pass on her. It means that she is committed to the business and you'll get bad service and a high price. She considers herself "high class" and already lives comfortably in the nicest area. She may have a daytime job already or a gringo benefactor who pays for her apartment and therefore she doesn't even really need your money. Ask her how long she is doing this. If she is new take advantage of that and you can get the real Colombian price (economic value) of 150k TLN. Also, don't exit LDV with a chica. Tell her your apartment number and get her number and then leave without her. Tell her to stay there for 5 minutes and then leave. Your only risk is another guy snatching her up. Offer her for ST (1 shot only). No more than 150k and then let her know that she can stay overnight if she'd like. If she likes you she'll stay for free otherwise she'll simply ask for more money. Don't pay more than 100k more. Max you'll end up paying is 250k.

Otherwise, beach is way better place to meet chicas. Try and directly talk to chicas at the beach. If there are none or very few, which happened to me, use Tony. He will try to suck money out of you constantly and charge you for everything. Use him minimally and then communicate directly with the chicas once you are put in contact. He takes a cut. Chicas told me that he expects that they get paid 120k per session and therefore charges his commission based on that. It was my first time there and I paid 180 being the unseasoned rookie there. They had the guts to ask me to tell Tony I paid 120k so that they could save money. I should have asked for a rebate otherwise I'd tell Tony!

Don't bother going to Tu Candela for chicas. Only the ugly ones hang out there and they are all super hard core and probably dangerous.

The Colombian culture and people in Cartagena are depressing although there are nice people there. I met a restaurant owner who was pretty nice. He didn't charge anything and helped me bargain down at one of the tourist shops. Everything in Cartagena is negotiable outside of places with menus. If there is no menu they will make up the price and change it whenever they feel like it! I speak Spanish so I caught on to this. It gave me a headache and was very depressing.

Cartagena is a great place if you are savvy and don't mind negotiating. It is very safe and has a beach and taxis are cheap.

Additional tip: all girls in LDV are in communication. It is like a union there. An experienced monger who lives down there told me that a trick to get better pricing is to tell the chica "I'll pay you 150k but I'll tell your friends that I paid 250k". This will save them face when talking with the union and she'll actually make money. LOL. Colombiana logic is messed up.

I'm not sure where to ask this question but since I'm heading to Cartagena in October with a bunch of the boys, I have many questions. Here is the main one: how do I PM someone here? I go into the profile but unlike other sites, I can't find a PM button. It's quite possible that it is right in front of me but I don't see it.

Many thanks.

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Anyone have any recommended escort agencies they deal with in Cartagena. Passing thru for only one night and would rather have one come visit then deal with the BS at LDV.

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[QUOTE=MadeInCanada; 1463513]I'm not sure where to ask this question but since I'm heading to Cartagena in October with a bunch of the boys, I have many questions. Here is the main one: how do I PM someone here? I go into the profile but unlike other sites, I can't find a PM button. It's quite possible that it is right in front of me but I don't see it.

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Jackson[/blue][/QUOTE]It is very simple, though I had the same issue when I first started a decade ago :-D.

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[QUOTE=Onibmab; 1461047]I can confirm this. I've only been to Cartagena but the visitor to Colombia must be aware that Colombians in Cartagena in the tourism industry specialize in sucking money out of tourists. LDV chicas are idiots. Quick story. Went into LDV on a Tuesday night. There were probably about 30-50 extremely hot chicas and 3-5 guys. I talk to one that would not go down from 200k for one shot. Plus they always try and bring you drinks and have insane consumption rules. Needless to say I wait until LDV closes, go to Elektra, hang out with same girls and price goes down to 150k. Most of these chicas go there every night and go home empty handed.

Quick screening tip that worked for me after I learnt: ask a girl in LDV where she is from / staying. If she lives in Cartagena and stays in Boca Grande or El Laguito take a pass on her. It means that she is committed to the business and you'll get bad service and a high price. She considers herself "high class" and already lives comfortably in the nicest area. She may have a daytime job already or a gringo benefactor who pays for her apartment and therefore she doesn't even really need your money. Ask her how long she is doing this. If she is new take advantage of that and you can get the real Colombian price (economic value) of 150k TLN. Also, don't exit LDV with a chica. Tell her your apartment number and get her number and then leave without her. Tell her to stay there for 5 minutes and then leave. Your only risk is another guy snatching her up. Offer her for ST (1 shot only). No more than 150k and then let her know that she can stay overnight if she'd like. If she likes you she'll stay for free otherwise she'll simply ask for more money. Don't pay more than 100k more. Max you'll end up paying is 250k.

Otherwise, beach is way better place to meet chicas. Try and directly talk to chicas at the beach. If there are none or very few, which happened to me, use Tony. He will try to suck money out of you constantly and charge you for everything. Use him minimally and then communicate directly with the chicas once you are put in contact. He takes a cut. Chicas told me that he expects that they get paid 120k per session and therefore charges his commission based on that. It was my first time there and I paid 180 being the unseasoned rookie there. They had the guts to ask me to tell Tony I paid 120k so that they could save money. I should have asked for a rebate otherwise I'd tell Tony!

Don't bother going to Tu Candela for chicas. Only the ugly ones hang out there and they are all super hard core and probably dangerous.

The Colombian culture and people in Cartagena are depressing although there are nice people there. I met a restaurant owner who was pretty nice. He didn't charge anything and helped me bargain down at one of the tourist shops. Everything in Cartagena is negotiable outside of places with menus. If there is no menu they will make up the price and change it whenever they feel like it! I speak Spanish so I caught on to this. It gave me a headache and was very depressing.

Cartagena is a great place if you are savvy and don't mind negotiating. It is very safe and has a beach and taxis are cheap.

Additional tip: all girls in LDV are in communication. It is like a union there. An experienced monger who lives down there told me that a trick to get better pricing is to tell the chica "I'll pay you 150k but I'll tell your friends that I paid 250k". This will save them face when talking with the union and she'll actually make money. LOL. Colombiana logic is messed up.[/QUOTE]Excellent thread, would be a report of distinction in my eyes.

I actually like the casas in El Bosque the best, they are all girls from other places who are hustling hard for a buck. I have had some very good service there and it is easy to separate the winners from the losers. Much better experience than at LDV, Elektra or meeting friends of friends arrangements. Rocio is the oldest casa in the city if not the country. Sailors and shit go there for a great time. Angeles uses the same business model. You can meet some nice local girls, too. The night club action is OK, Mr Barbilla's and so forth. The key thing you said is that Cartagena is for haggling and you really have to beware of hustles. KEY things to know.

I really hate the way the culture there is so aggressive and oriented toward ripoffs. Of course the local and national governments do fuck nothing to change the image. It is pretty in pictures but the reality is that it's a bunch of people with no money and / or no scruples trying to get over on you, either that or aggressive vendors and panhandlers, which are also annoying.

Guess things haven't changed much? [url]http://youtu.be/m3X0pCokrCc[/url]

I know general prices are higher during the holiday in November. Anyone been there during this time? Is it worth spending more to be there in November?

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1466127]I know general prices are higher during the holiday in November. Anyone been there during this time? Is it worth spending more to be there in November?[/QUOTE]Apartments are higher priced during the Miss Colombia festival. 4-11. Late in November is a good time for chicas, school is on vacation and many come to Cartagena for holiday and next semester tuition dinero.

Hello all,

My cousin and I are going to Cartagena, for 10 days on vacation. Listen I am in the final stages of a very ugly divorce, so I am looking to get my mind free from the bullshit I'm dealing with in the states. Can anyone help me out by giving me some advise? I really need to have a good time. I would love to forget my problems for a little while. Someone please reply thanks.

Tony

[QUOTE=Tony764; 1466398]Hello all,

My cousin and I are going to Cartagena, for 10 days on vacation. Listen I am in the final stages of a very ugly divorce, so I am looking to get my mind free from the bullshit I'm dealing with in the states. Can anyone help me out by giving me some advise? I really need to have a good time. I would love to forget my problems for a little while. Someone please reply thanks.

Tony[/QUOTE]I was in a similar situation about six years ago. I went to Lima Peru, and went non stop for about three days hitting everything that caught my eye. Then I settled with one girl for the rest of the trip.

Nothing like being with beautiful Latin women after being raked over the coals by a stinking Gringa.

Just be careful as you are a strong candidate for a rebound, and that is the last thing you need at this stage of the game.

[QUOTE=Tony764; 1466398]Hello all,

My cousin and I are going to Cartagena, for 10 days on vacation. Listen I am in the final stages of a very ugly divorce, so I am looking to get my mind free from the bullshit I'm dealing with in the states. Can anyone help me out by giving me some advise? I really need to have a good time. I would love to forget my problems for a little while. Someone please reply thanks.

Tony[/QUOTE]Rent a nice apartment (better value and much less hassle than a hotel) and consider maybe some of the casas in El Bosque for your entertainment. You can take girls TLN, total damage will be 300k to 400k COP. You can find some excellent service there if you look.

Don't trust hustlers, never pay for anything that you do not have in hand whether it be girls, party favors, whatever. They are out in masse.

You might consider spending some time on the islands. Get there, get your feet under you, meet a girl you can tolerate taking overnight or for a weekend and go out there. Much nicer beaches and atmosphere than the city of CTG.

[QUOTE=LocoGringo;1466146]Apartments are higher priced during the Miss Colombia festival. 4-11. Late in November is a good time for chicas, school is on vacation and many come to Cartagena for holiday and next semester tuition dinero.[/QUOTE]Correct and I have been meaning to post this for a while. Your answer reminded me to do it.

Schools in Colombia works with two calendars: A or B.

Most of the country schools work with "A" calendar which goes from begining February to begining June (summer vacation) and mid July to mid November (winter vacation, and note that it is longer than summer vacation).

Calendar B goes from mid January to mid May and beginning of August to mid December.

Went to Plaza de los Coches on Tuesday around 7PM. Hung around for a while and only saw about three chicas (at least that I could tell were working). Probably slow due to time of day and fact that it was a Tuesday and there was a big football match. One by the gate with nice figure and curves and long straight black hair was really striking a pose and looked great from a distance as I walked. I walked past her and she whispered "hola" to me. Something about her face convinced me to take a pass though. The other two, inside the walls, sitting on the benches to the left of the entrance, were a couple flaquitas, one negra, the other typical complexion, about a 6 and a 7, respectively in my opinion. All the girls around there have great bodies that I've seen, but the decision comes down to the face.

The other one, which I ended up picking up, asked me for 150k for an hour session. I told her I could do 100k, and she agreed without any haggling. In retrospect, may have been able to start lower, but wasn't in the mood. Very quick and easy negotiation.

We headed over to a short time motel, Hotel Las Vegas, I believe it was called, a couple blocks north of the plaza. Price was 30k for the hour. Chica was 20 years old, Venezuelan, slender, very nice, sweet and eager to please.

Checked out LDV last night around 11 or 12 just to see what was available. Beers were 10k a piece. Had a couple while I surveyed the scene. Maybe about 30 or so girls, a lot of real hotties. I had no intention of taking out any girls from there though, given the ridiculous 100k minimum drink policy. It's just too much of a hassle, and overall cost when you factor in the typical price of the chicas there. It's too bad, because it's a great venue and there were a lot of hot chicas there.

Cartagena is an expensive city, particularly compared to other places in Colombia.

I think my next two spots to check out are going to be Playa Hollywood and I would really like to check out that Casa Rosario / Rocio place in El Bosque. Can't beat casas for overall convenience in my opinion.

Anyone else have any additional info about that casa aside from what's already in the forum? Is the area dicey or dangerous? I was planning on checking it out during the daytime.

[QUOTE=the Kine Kid; 1471523]Went to Plaza de los Coches on Tuesday around 7PM. Hung around for a while and only saw about three chicas (at least that I could tell were working). Probably slow due to time of day and fact that it was a Tuesday and there was a big football match. One by the gate with nice figure and curves and long straight black hair was really striking a pose and looked great from a distance as I walked. I walked past her and she whispered "hola" to me. Something about her face convinced me to take a pass though. The other two, inside the walls, sitting on the benches to the left of the entrance, were a couple flaquitas, one negra, the other typical complexion, about a 6 and a 7, respectively in my opinion. All the girls around there have great bodies that I've seen, but the decision comes down to the face.

The other one, which I ended up picking up, asked me for 150k for an hour session. I told her I could do 100k, and she agreed without any haggling. In retrospect, may have been able to start lower, but wasn't in the mood. Very quick and easy negotiation.

We headed over to a short time motel, Hotel Las Vegas, I believe it was called, a couple blocks north of the plaza. Price was 30k for the hour. Chica was 20 years old, Venezuelan, slender, very nice, sweet and eager to please.

Checked out LDV last night around 11 or 12 just to see what was available. Beers were 10k a piece. Had a couple while I surveyed the scene. Maybe about 30 or so girls, a lot of real hotties. I had no intention of taking out any girls from there though, given the ridiculous 100k minimum drink policy. It's just too much of a hassle, and overall cost when you factor in the typical price of the chicas there. It's too bad, because it's a great venue and there were a lot of hot chicas there.

Cartagena is an expensive city, particularly compared to other places in Colombia.

I think my next two spots to check out are going to be Playa Hollywood and I would really like to check out that Casa Rosario / Rocio place in El Bosque. Can't beat casas for overall convenience in my opinion.

Anyone else have any additional info about that casa aside from what's already in the forum? Is the area dicey or dangerous? I was planning on checking it out during the daytime.[/QUOTE]Rocio is a favorite of mine. Near there, there is also Club Angeles, which has a similar setup but is much newer. Both have female owners. Rocio is a former prepago who worked her way up to the top, a real success story LOL. She runs a tight ship and has a lot of ins with local transport (the cabbies and, more importantly, the port folks who bring in a lot of sailors). At times the selection there is incredible, others it's unremarkable. I have not been in about three years, but I have three friends who work there (a doorman and two chicas) whom I talk to now and then. You will only get good daytime if the ships are in, otherwise the girls will be sleeping or out during their own thing. The downside there is lots of competition for the ones you want. I say go at night, look at the full selection and get numbers. On days when there are no ships coming in during the day, you can get the girls to your place for what you'd pay for one hour only they will stay all afternoon.

The area is not dicey or dangerous. It is a pretty normal residential area, sure it is like Strato 2 or 3 at the highest, but nothing greasy. I have never once felt threatened there in any way, shape or form, and at one point I had a regular I was visiting there all the time. You will see a handful of people out in the street but it's seldom crowded. The cab will take you right to the door. Don't let the cabbies rip you off. They often try to charge foreigners 15K, especially at night. It should be no more than 12K and really more like 10K. Once I took my friend out for lunch and they charged her 7K, though that seemed low as it is kind of a haul from Bocagrande or the old city (maybe 12 minutes).

Anyone familiar with this apartment? [url]http://youtu.be/LNcNMTrg4m8[/url]

[QUOTE=Orgasmico; 1472371]Anyone familiar with this apartment?

[url]http://youtu.be/LNcNMTrg4m8[/url][/QUOTE]There are many apartments like that one in Cartagena. Is that one being offered for rentals or something?

[QUOTE=TheShadow2;1472389]There are many apartments like that one in Cartagena. Is that one being offered for rentals or something?[/QUOTE]Not sure. It seems like this guy rented it for the weekend. I haven't been there yet, but I guess I could check airbnb and some of the other sites as a reference point. I liked the fact that it was spacious and came with a private pool in the apartment.

In a phrase, I like Medellin for living and Cartagena for visiting. That is, Cartagena is a big-time tourist destination. In mid-September, tourism is slow. Sometimes it seems the touts and vendors outnumber the tourists, haha. I'm told it's often much more crowded.

Coming from Medellin, Cartagena is a totally different deal. I should say, Bocagrande and the old city are totally different. Maybe the rest of Cartagena is less touristy. But I only know the tourist areas. I wish I could take the charm of Cartagena and mix it with the beautiful water in Cancun. That would be a world-class tourist destination. As it is, the beach in Cartagena is nothing very nice, and the profusion of locals selling massages, sunglasses, hats, miscellaneous tourist crap, beach food, and who knows what else, makes it less enjoyable. Actually, the beach-side bars are kind of nice. In a down-and-dirty way. No credit cards accepted, hehe.

Before coming to Cartagena, I RTFF'ed a lot about La Dolce Vida. My expectations have been exceeded. Two nights I have made quality pulls with excellent service for 150K ST. I think it's a buyers market right now. Last night there were 30-40 chicas there and less than 10 men. That is, until a group of about 10 guys came in together looking like lost sheep. I think they were business guys from the same company, or military guys from Europe. They crowded into a corner, turned inwards on themselves, while the girls in the room waited expectantly for some indication they wanted company. It was hilarious. Some guys have so little game they can't pick up prepagos in a target-rich club like LDV.

I've been disappointed in the beach (though I'm heading out to Hollywood Beach again shortly, it being Sunday afternoon). It's just so f-ing hot out there. And the place is filled with families. Maybe I'll find something today.

The food and drink here are good, especially if you stay away from the tourist places. Last night I treated one of my LDV chicas and her roommate to evening cervezas (beers). The bill was 6mil, or $3 USD, for three beers. It can go the other way, too, as I got socked for a 30mil (USD 16) mojito at Casa del Mar.

The way to deal with taxis, I've learned, is just to get in. You don't have to ask the price. You know the price. From 5mil to 9mil depending on day / night and how far. Hand them a 10mil bill and they'll give you change.

I tried Babar disco last night, with no luck. Almost all couples and just a few stray girls, no lookers. It was Valentine's Day here in Colombia so a bad night to be looking.

Tu Candela was okay a few nights ago. The girls were friendly if older and not-so-hot. I really haven't given non-prepago places a fair shake as LDV is always waiting, with sure success for not a lot more than I'd spend on drinks for non-prepagos.

Most of the girls here are dark-skinned, though one of the two I pulled from LDV was quite fair. She said she can't go to the beach at all for fear of burning. I believe it. That girl was a lesson in how to choose well. She was not the best-looking woman in the room. In fact, she was flat with a bit of a pear shape. But from the moment I sat down at the bar, she smiled at me like she had been waiting a week for my arrival. Sure enough, after I bought her two whiskies, she delivered awesome service. She mentioned being away for 3 months for school. You would have thought she hadn't had a man for 3 months. 2 hours of great sexo and she was in the taxi for 150mil plus 10mil taxi money. Also, this chica's sexual desire is centered in her ass. Squeeze and she moans. Lots of fun!

Okay, time to hit the beach. Wish me luck. It's Sunday and if I strike out at the beach, I might have to. Dread the thought. Repeat one of my LDV girls. Oh, the horror! Hahaha. I love Colombia.

On the beach in Bocagrande I spotted a very cute girl sunbathing. This was not Playa Hollywood, where the prepagos would be expected, but a few breakwaters up. So I didn't know if she was a prepago.

The lounger beside her was empty, so I scanned the water and saw another girl in the waves. Figuring there was a good chance that girl was the lounger-owner, I made my approach.

I had little difficulty striking up a conversation. Soon I was sitting in the sand and we were chatting. I asked where she worked. She answered,"un club." Ahhhh, this is good. Which one?"Pleyclub." Ahhh, this is good but maybe bad, too. Pleyclub is the club where the Secret Service fiasco originated; one can only assume that notoriety has made them more popular than ever.

Carolina was young and slender with a tiny swimsuit that showed off her perfect natural curves. In fact, her bottom was so small that had she not shaved, it would have been indecent. When my eyes accidentally wandered there once too often, she caught me and moved her coverup over her lower body. Busted!

Yes, she was working tonight, together with her girlfriend. They had to report to the club at 7pm. The no-show fee was 250mil. Yes, she was interested in skipping work to have dinner with me. When I acted surprised at the size of the no-show fee, she said it was the best club in the city and if I met her there and wanted takeout, the fee would be 600mil. Yikes! I didn't know if this was all true, but she was a hot Paisa from Medellin, there for two months to work in a top club, so it may well have been.

I got her digits then walked her and her girlfriend (not nearly as hot) to a cab. We made plans to meet at the clock tower (Torre de Reloj) in about two hours.

As I walked back to my hotel, I realized this could be super-costly. I would pay the 250mil no-show fee, maybe 250mil propina to her, plus dinner and drinks for two. We're looking at 600mil. Compare to my trusty LDV girls at 150mil plus 50-100mil in drinks. And I was more confident in their level of service.

One thing I've learned doing this is that there are no sure things. The Pleyclub girl at 600mil might give much worse service than a LDV girl. Or better, but who knows? She was a 9+ in looks, but the level of service was unknown.

I traded text msgs with Carolina over the next two hours. She got off work at 4am = too late. No, she didn't want to go to Playa Blanca the next day, though she says she loves Playa Blanca, because it would mean missing a day of work. She was here for two months to make money. No days off. Or, if she takes days off, not with me. I can respect that. Plus this attitude meant even if we had a great night together, it would be tough to repeat.

I cancelled. Not easy to cancel on this quality of chica, but I think it was the right decision. The rule is: GFE with hot chicas can be found at all price levels. Only pay the highest prices if you have tons of money and little time to hunt. For me, LDV is a much more economical hunting ground, so I chose to save my dollars.

Maybe I can connect with Carolina in Medellin during my next trip, when she is back to "student" mode and 100mil-150mil seems like a lot. Or not. No worries.

[QUOTE=Archimedes; 1472890]On the beach in Bocagrande I spotted a very cute girl sunbathing. This was not Playa Hollywood, where the prepagos would be expected, but a few breakwaters up. So I didn't know if she was a prepago.

The lounger beside her was empty, so I scanned the water and saw another girl in the waves. Figuring there was a good chance that girl was the lounger-owner, I made my approach.

I had little difficulty striking up a conversation. Soon I was sitting in the sand and we were chatting. I asked where she worked. She answered,"un club." Ahhhh, this is good. Which one?"Pleyclub." Ahhh, this is good but maybe bad, too. Pleyclub is the club where the Secret Service fiasco originated; one can only assume that notoriety has made them more popular than ever.

Carolina was young and slender with a tiny swimsuit that showed off her perfect natural curves. In fact, her bottom was so small that had she not shaved, it would have been indecent. When my eyes accidentally wandered there once too often, she caught me and moved her coverup over her lower body. Busted!

Yes, she was working tonight, together with her girlfriend. They had to report to the club at 7pm. The no-show fee was 250mil. Yes, she was interested in skipping work to have dinner with me. When I acted surprised at the size of the no-show fee, she said it was the best club in the city and if I met her there and wanted takeout, the fee would be 600mil. Yikes! I didn't know if this was all true, but she was a hot Paisa from Medellin, there for two months to work in a top club, so it may well have been.

I got her digits then walked her and her girlfriend (not nearly as hot) to a cab. We made plans to meet at the clock tower (Torre de Reloj) in about two hours.

As I walked back to my hotel, I realized this could be super-costly. I would pay the 250mil no-show fee, maybe 250mil propina to her, plus dinner and drinks for two. We're looking at 600mil. Compare to my trusty LDV girls at 150mil plus 50-100mil in drinks. And I was more confident in their level of service.

One thing I've learned doing this is that there are no sure things. The Pleyclub girl at 600mil might give much worse service than a LDV girl. Or better, but who knows? She was a 9+ in looks, but the level of service was unknown.

I traded text msgs with Carolina over the next two hours. She got off work at 4am = too late. No, she didn't want to go to Playa Blanca the next day, though she says she loves Playa Blanca, because it would mean missing a day of work. She was here for two months to make money. No days off. Or, if she takes days off, not with me. I can respect that. Plus this attitude meant even if we had a great night together, it would be tough to repeat.

I cancelled. Not easy to cancel on this quality of chica, but I think it was the right decision. The rule is: GFE with hot chicas can be found at all price levels. Only pay the highest prices if you have tons of money and little time to hunt. For me, LDV is a much more economical hunting ground, so I chose to save my dollars.

Maybe I can connect with Carolina in Medellin during my next trip, when she is back to "student" mode and 100mil-150mil seems like a lot. Or not. No worries.[/QUOTE]First, thanks for the ongoing reports. Us guys stuck in the USA have to live vicariously through the guys lucky enough to be in Colombia.

Food for thought considering your experience with "Carolina":

First, you absolutely made the right decision to pass on her. She told you with words and actions that she is a hard-core pro. Her goal is to extract the maximum amount of dinero from her work in Cartagena in the two months she will be there, nothing more, nothing less. She's not looking for a boyfriend, friends, relationships. She's there for money. Having said that, there is no reason to take a girl like this out to drinks and dinner. Why do that? You're just adding to the amount it's going to cost you. She will not give you better service after dinner and drinks. It will be the same, so no reason to go there. You said you estimated it might cost you 600mil, but I can see scenarios that would actually cost you more. You think her going rate is 250mil? What if she told you it was 400? 500? 600? After all, she is skipping a complete night of work at Pleyclub. Who knows what absurd price for the night she would have come up with. What I wish you would have done, is when the conversation on the beach went to dinero, and she started to quote the 250 no show fee, etc that you would have just politely declined right there. The only way we can keep the prices down, is be willing to walk away from the high prices, no matter how hot they are. In her mind, she almost had you paying it, so probably the next guy will. Now, one thing you could have tried, was to offer her 150k at the beach to walk across the street to your apartment, take a quick shower and bang you for an hour. She's already there and would not have to skip work so maybe she could see the value in that, although with "Carolina" it's probably a long shot. But at least that gives her a dose of reality. 150k is what this guy is willing to pay, and if she asks for more, she ends up with nothing.

Just my thoughts amigo, we're all in this together, keep up the reports and enjoy your time in Cartagena.

Winding up my first trip to Cartagena, I have a number of thoughts to share.

This is the number one vacation destination in Colombia, by a wide margin. That is, many many Colombian families and couples come here, especially in December. The P2P scene is available (thanks Hillbilly69 for your excellent map) but not a large part of the overall scene.

Due to the demand, hotels are relatively expensive here. I don't know about apartments, but I suspect the same. I paid about 110 USD / night for the Hamption by Hilton Hotel. On the plus side, it has a swimming pool. A rarity. On the negative side, the place is sterile sterile sterile. I won't stay here again.

Is the Hampton girl-friendy? Yes, with mandatory registration at the 16th floor, and with no extra charges. After a ST session, it's a nuisance for the girl to exit, as in the wee hours of the morning the hotel's front door requires a room key to open. That means walking her down to the lobby. Which sucks.

A girl told me the Hilton won't let girls in at all. Super-girl-unfriendly. And she told me other high-end hotels either don't allow girls at all, or have entrance fees.

On the plus side, the Hampton is located smack in the middle of Bocagrande. Perhaps some prefer Laguito which is about a mile away. I liked being within walking distance of Isabellas (breakfast or coffee) , Juan Valdez (coffee) , a couple of casinos, Crepes and Waffles (excellent Colombian chain restaurant) , San Marino restaurant, and half-a-dozen Colombian and American fast-food restaurants. There are several ATMs nearby as well as small drug stores on about every block. As long as you are not out when the sun is strongest between 11am-4pm, it's an easy walk from the Hampton to dozens and dozens of places.

After dark in Cartagena police are to be seen everywhere. That's good, except when they do their routine searches for drugs. I underwent my second one (the first was in Medellin) a few nights ago after leaving LDV with a girl. Our taxi was stopped, I was asked to step out of the taxi, and the policeman went through my pockets very carefully. The girl was not searched.

I found the beach to be too hot until after 4pm. After 4, I would walk from near my hotel to the far end of Hollywood Beach, hang out there for half an hour or an hour, then stroll back shortly before 6pm. I didn't swim at the beach, but wading was pleasant, as the sand bottom is smooth and pleasant-feeling on the feet. I didn't have a girl to go with so I never rode the boat to one of the nearby beaches which are reported to be prettier.

The Bocagrande beach is beset with vendors and massage ladies. I only bought a cap (the sun is strong) and a few waters. I never met the infamous Tony. Nor did I see many prepagos at the beach. Admittedly, I didn't spend a tremendous amount of time there, but the entire "meet girls at the beach for an afternoon romp" was missing for me. Those who are in-the-know can point out what I missed.

Most of the girls I encountered in Cartagena were relatively dark-skinned. For me, Cartagena was not a good place to meet non-pros or tourist girls. They just aren't that hot, and there aren't that many. I don't like the darker-skinned girls as much.

As mentioned in a previous report, I found the LDV girls to be excellent. I got low pricing and great service. Both girls I chose (on different nights) were semi-pros who offered good GFE. One gave the best BBBJ I've had in a long time.

After three weeks in Colombia, I'm a little tired of the P2P scene. I long for some real connection. I think if I stayed here a while I'd make that connection. I've seen a few gringo guys around with super-hot girlfriends. It just takes time, which my 5-day visit did not afford.

I found the girls in Medellin to be much more beautiful than the Cartagenitas. Unlike Cartagena, Medellin is not a tourist city. Yet a growing number of gringos are living there for one reason: Paisas. There's nothing like them elsewhere, from what I've seen. Maybe others who know Colombia better can point out where in Colombia you can find girls to equal the Paisas.

One guy I met told me if you get into the small towns near Medellin, you can find girls that are as beautiful as the ones in Medellin, but with the huge advantage that they almost never see a gringo. So girlfriends are just a smile and a meal away. With perhaps a little "buy yourself something nice" money thrown in.

One caveat: I speak decent Spanish. Colombia P2P would be much more difficult without Spanish. Lots of guys do it, but I don't think they get nearly the service I've gotten, and they probably have to pay more. So start practicing those Hola's before you make a trip here.

[QUOTE=Archimedes; 1472890]On the beach in Bocagrande I spotted a very cute girl sunbathing. This was not Playa Hollywood, where the prepagos would be expected, but a few breakwaters up. So I didn't know if she was a prepago.

The lounger beside her was empty, so I scanned the water and saw another girl in the waves. Figuring there was a good chance that girl was the lounger-owner, I made my approach.

I had little difficulty striking up a conversation. Soon I was sitting in the sand and we were chatting. I asked where she worked. She answered,"un club." Ahhhh, this is good. Which one?"Pleyclub." Ahhh, this is good but maybe bad, too. Pleyclub is the club where the Secret Service fiasco originated; one can only assume that notoriety has made them more popular than ever.

Carolina was young and slender with a tiny swimsuit that showed off her perfect natural curves. In fact, her bottom was so small that had she not shaved, it would have been indecent. When my eyes accidentally wandered there once too often, she caught me and moved her coverup over her lower body. Busted!

Yes, she was working tonight, together with her girlfriend. They had to report to the club at 7pm. The no-show fee was 250mil. Yes, she was interested in skipping work to have dinner with me. When I acted surprised at the size of the no-show fee, she said it was the best club in the city and if I met her there and wanted takeout, the fee would be 600mil. Yikes! I didn't know if this was all true, but she was a hot Paisa from Medellin, there for two months to work in a top club, so it may well have been.

.[/QUOTE]The 250k no show fee sounds about right. She will probably expect 400k+ too. The only way to make PleyClub chicas work is to see them during the day before work. When you can probably get them for 150k-200k. Otherwise, it is just not worth it.

[QUOTE=Archimedes; 1472510]In a phrase, I like Medellin for living and Cartagena for visiting. That is, Cartagena is a big-time tourist destination. In mid-September, tourism is slow. Sometimes it seems the touts and vendors outnumber the tourists, haha. I'm told it's often much more crowded.

Coming from Medellin, Cartagena is a totally different deal. I should say, Bocagrande and the old city are totally different. Maybe the rest of Cartagena is less touristy. But I only know the tourist areas. I wish I could take the charm of Cartagena and mix it with the beautiful water in Cancun. That would be a world-class tourist destination. As it is, the beach in Cartagena is nothing very nice, and the profusion of locals selling massages, sunglasses, hats, miscellaneous tourist crap, beach food, and who knows what else, makes it less enjoyable. Actually, the beach-side bars are kind of nice. In a down-and-dirty way. No credit cards accepted, hehe...[/QUOTE]That is the worst way to deal with taxis. Know the rate and confirm before getting in. If they see you as a tourist, they will try to gouge you.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1472395]Not sure. It seems like this guy rented it for the weekend. I haven't been there yet, but I guess I could check airbnb and some of the other sites as a reference point. I liked the fact that it was spacious and came with a private pool in the apartment.[/QUOTE]The guy is trying to teach you how to day trade. This looks like the apartment though: [url]http://www.cartagenafirstamericanrealty.com/en/property/rental/La[/url]%20Casa%20Del%20Toro

Hi all.

Time ago (May 2013) there were some comments about Hampton, new hotel in Bocagrande. Best feature to my eyes was that the reception was at 17th floor, and thus no walk of shame, request of I'd, surcharge for additional guest, etc, on coming back at night or day with some company. 1 or 2 or whatever. Is it still like that? I am planning to try it next time.

I am looking at its photos. It looks terribly cold and impersonal compared to cozy small hotels I am used to go in CTG, but at least I am free to do what I want.

Any recent visitor may comment on it?

Thank you!

BP, the Hampton Hilton now requires you to check the girl in at the front desk. They post a hotel employee outside who instructs you to go and check her in at the 17th floor lobby. There was no fee.

The hotel itself is super-sterile. Very American-style with almost no flavor of Colombia.

The big plus for the hotel is the rooftop pool. I used it several times. The views are great and you might get lucky and find some freebie targets there.

I won't stay here again. There are dozens of smaller hotels in this area, no doubt less costly, plus I like apartments. Next time I'll try an apartment near Laguito.

In Bocagrande, while hotels seem a little expensive, restaurants are not. There are lots of low-end choices and some good mid-tier choices. In the mid-tier restaurants, the menus look similar (fish, beef, chicken, a little pork, salads) , but the food is well-prepared and tasty.

I even ate lunch twice at the small outdoor restaurant directly across from the Hampton Hotel. For about 15mil (USD $8) I got a large carne asada (skirt steak) , french fries AND rice, and a tomato slice / lettuce mini-salad. Even better was the lemonade, which seems a Cartagena specialty. Everywhere I ate I ordered lemonade, and it was always delicious.

For great food and atmosphere at dinnertime, I took a 7mil cab ride from Bocagrande to Centro Vieja. Besides the appalling Hard Rock Cafe, there are seemingly dozens of romantic restaurants serving excellent food. My favorite was El Balcon de San Diego. If you have a date, try this restaurant then wander the small but beautiful Plaza San Diego afterward. It's what the French Quarter of New Orleans would like to be, if only it were not filled with drunks and idiots (sorry if I am offending the drunks and idiots in the French Quarter).

There is some interesting prepago action in the Centro Vieja, though I did not partake. After approaching one good-looker, I realized she was a he. Retreat, retreat! With more time, I'd probably search around for some gems.

I didn't visit the casas here in Cartagena. Though I like the format, with the ready availability of La Dolce Vida girls and the high level of service I got with them, casas just didn't seem necessary.

Bottom line: IMHO, rule one for Cartagena is bring a novia (gf) or at least a chica (prepago) you really like. It's a couples place. If you fail to comply with rule one (as I did) , you can't go far wrong renting an apartment near Laguito and visiting La Dolce Vida each night about 11pm. The beach is nearby for as much or as little sun as you can handle. If you find a LDV girl you like, and you have the time, take her to the better beaches that are a boat ride away.

The above will be my plan next time I return. Since air fares from Medellin are under $200 USD round trip, I'll make Medellin my base for a while, then occasionally take novia-of-the-week to Cartagena for long weekends.

Remember to skip December in Cartagena as that is when it is crazy-crowded.

Sorry there's not more info about P2P in this post, but I've often benefited from general travel info on this site, so I'm giving back. Also, in response to one of my earlier posts, someone commented that he appreciated the post since he was stuck in sex Prison aka the USA. I want to politely remind everyone that the purpose of this site is NOT to provide vicarious thrills to stay-at-homes. Buy Penthouse and read the letters if that's what you're after. The purpose of this site is to assist those who travel in finding P2P action. The site proved immensely helpful to me during this, my first trip to Colombia. So I'm just paying it forward.

This is my last post about Colombia until I can return again. Which I definitely intend to do. If you can speak some Spanish, it is arguably the premier country in the world for beautiful girls who can be enjoyed for reasonable amounts of money.

Good luck to all!

[QUOTE=Archimedes; 1473238]In Bocagrande, while hotels seem a little expensive, restaurants are not. There are lots of low-end choices and some good mid-tier choices. In the mid-tier restaurants, the menus look similar (fish, beef, chicken, a little pork, salads) , but the food is well-prepared and tasty.

I even ate lunch twice at the small outdoor restaurant directly across from the Hampton Hotel. For about 15mil (USD $8) I got a large carne asada (skirt steak) , french fries AND rice, and a tomato slice / lettuce mini-salad. Even better was the lemonade, which seems a Cartagena specialty. Everywhere I ate I ordered lemonade, and it was always delicious.

For great food and atmosphere at dinnertime, I took a 7mil cab ride from Bocagrande to Centro Vieja. Besides the appalling Hard Rock Cafe, there are seemingly dozens of romantic restaurants serving excellent food. My favorite was El Balcon de San Diego. If you have a date, try this restaurant then wander the small but beautiful Plaza San Diego afterward. It's what the French Quarter of New Orleans would like to be, if only it were not filled with drunks and idiots (sorry if I am offending the drunks and idiots in the French Quarter).

There is some interesting prepago action in the Centro Vieja, though I did not partake. After approaching one good-looker, I realized she was a he. Retreat, retreat! With more time, I'd probably search around for some gems.

I didn't visit the casas here in Cartagena. Though I like the format, with the ready availability of La Dolce Vida girls and the high level of service I got with them, casas just didn't seem necessary.

Bottom line: IMHO, rule one for Cartagena is bring a novia (gf) or at least a chica (prepago) you really like. It's a couples place. If you fail to comply with rule one (as I did) , you can't go far wrong renting an apartment near Laguito and visiting La Dolce Vida each night about 11pm. The beach is nearby for as much or as little sun as you can handle. If you find a LDV girl you like, and you have the time, take her to the better beaches that are a boat ride away.

The above will be my plan next time I return. Since air fares from Medellin are under $200 USD round trip, I'll make Medellin my base for a while, then occasionally take novia-of-the-week to Cartagena for long weekends.

Remember to skip December in Cartagena as that is when it is crazy-crowded.

Sorry there's not more info about P2P in this post, but I've often benefited from general travel info on this site, so I'm giving back. Also, in response to one of my earlier posts, someone commented that he appreciated the post since he was stuck in sex Prison aka the USA. I want to politely remind everyone that the purpose of this site is NOT to provide vicarious thrills to stay-at-homes. Buy Penthouse and read the letters if that's what you're after. The purpose of this site is to assist those who travel in finding P2P action. The site proved immensely helpful to me during this, my first trip to Colombia. So I'm just paying it forward.

This is my last post about Colombia until I can return again. Which I definitely intend to do. If you can speak some Spanish, it is arguably the premier country in the world for beautiful girls who can be enjoyed for reasonable amounts of money. Good luck to all![/QUOTE]Archimedes,

Another good report amigo, thanks for sharing. I do want to correct one of your assumptions though- I wrote I was stuck in the USA, but that's only a temporary condition. I was in Cartagena in September, and will be there again in November. I'm there several times a year, and I've been there so many times I've lost count. I look forward to many more trips there. Glad you enjoyed your trip, and hopefully you've got many more to enjoy in your future as well.

[QUOTE=Hioctane;1473101]That is the worst way to deal with taxis. Know the rate and confirm before getting in. If they see you as a tourist, they will try to gouge you.[/QUOTE]If you are taking a taxi from within El Laguito / Bocagrande and staying in the area (e. G Hilton to Olimpia 24 supermarket nearby) then there is no need to confirm although it can't hurt I suppose other than making them possibly think you are a tourist. Any longer trips should definitely be confirmed beforehand as you say. Had a bad experience with this 6"8 tall Colombian guy who wanted to charge 60k from Centro to Laguito. 60k! Luckily I speak Spanish and we went to the nearby police for mediation and a 20k fee was decided on.

[QUOTE=Hioctane; 1473107]The guy is trying to teach you how to day trade. This looks like the apartment though:

[url]http://www.cartagenafirstamericanrealty.com/en/property/rental/La[/url]

%20Casa%20Del%20Toro[/QUOTE]Thanks. Not sure if that is it, but they have some comparable rentals on that site!

[QUOTE=Da Kine Kid;1471523]Checked out LDV last night around 11 or 12 just to see what was available. Beers were 10k a piece. Had a couple while I surveyed the scene. Maybe about 30 or so girls, a lot of real hotties. I had no intention of taking out any girls from there though, [b]given the ridiculous 100k minimum drink policy[/b]. It's just too much of a hassle, and overall cost when you factor in the typical price of the chicas there. It's too bad, because it's a great venue and there were a lot of hot chicas there.[/QUOTE]So LDV is nothing more than a clip joint now?

[QUOTE=Archimedes; 1472510]That is, until a group of about 10 guys came in together looking like lost sheep. I think they were business guys from the same company, or military guys from Europe. They crowded into a corner, turned inwards on themselves, while the girls in the room waited expectantly for some indication they wanted company. It was hilarious. Some guys have so little game they can't pick up prepagos in a target-rich club like LDV.[/QUOTE]It's highly likely that what you were seeing here was Israelis. You need to observe more to see them in action before you jump to conclusion, then you see them for what they are. The girls are well onto their stick.

[QUOTE=Archimedes; 1473236]BP, the Hampton Hilton now requires you to check the girl in at the front desk. They post a hotel employee outside who instructs you to go and check her in at the 17th floor lobby. There was no fee.

The hotel itself is super-sterile. Very American-style with almost no flavor of Colombia.

The big plus for the hotel is the rooftop pool. I used it several times. The views are great and you might get lucky and find some freebie targets there.

I won't stay here again. There are dozens of smaller hotels in this area, no doubt less costly, plus I like apartments. Next time I'll try an apartment near Laguito.[/QUOTE]I am so disappointed! When I read about this new hotel months ago, I thought I finally found my place. But now it became like all others.

I really HATE to have to pass through the reception and register my guests. Last year, one of my girls was not admitted, because she did not have the I'd with her. And I also was rejected by the same reception, when I came with two girls one afternoon (no way to admit 3 people in a room sold for 2).

How does it work at Hampton? What happens if, after having been directed by that employee, you go straight to the room without stopping at 17th floor?

Did you have any glimpse of their possible reaction, should you arrive with 2 friends instead of 1?

At this point, the only option seem to be an apartment, but also there there is I'd requested at the door.

[QUOTE=Black Page; 1473823]I am so disappointed! When I read about this new hotel months ago, I thought I finally found my place. But now it became like all others.

I really HATE to have to pass through the reception and register my guests. Last year, one of my girls was not admitted, because she did not have the I'd with her. And I also was rejected by the same reception, when I came with two girls one afternoon (no way to admit 3 people in a room sold for 2).

How does it work at Hampton? What happens if, after having been directed by that employee, you go straight to the room without stopping at 17th floor?

Did you have any glimpse of their possible reaction, should you arrive with 2 friends instead of 1?

At this point, the only option seem to be an apartment, but also there there is I'd requested at the door.[/QUOTE]That is why I was shocked a couple of months back to hear about a hotel that does not need registration. It's very uncommon. IMO, apartments are the way to go to avoid the "walk of shame" involved with hotels.

You should always go with chicas that have IDs. Make sure they have before you leave to go to your place. I won't even go into why you would want to bring someone back without ID.

[QUOTE=Onibmab;1473390]If you are taking a taxi from within El Laguito / Bocagrande and staying in the area (e. G Hilton to Olimpia 24 supermarket nearby) then there is no need to confirm although it can't hurt I suppose other than making them possibly think you are a tourist. Any longer trips should definitely be confirmed beforehand as you say. Had a bad experience with this 6"8 tall Colombian guy who wanted to charge 60k from Centro to Laguito. 60k! Luckily I speak Spanish and we went to the nearby police for mediation and a 20k fee was decided on.[/QUOTE]I suppose you could take a taxi within Laguito / Bocagrande. It is only a 10 minute walk but I was really referring to going to Centro or some place further out. Yes, you don't want to face that situation especially if you don't speak Spanish.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;1473701]It's highly likely that what you were seeing here was Israelis. You need to observe more to see them in action before you jump to conclusion, then you see them for what they are. The girls are well onto their stick.[/QUOTE]Did I miss a veiled reference to Israelis? There certainly are a lot of Israelis in Cartagena. I've lost count of how many chicas in Cartagena know Hebrew!

[QUOTE=Archimedes; 1473238]In Bocagrande, while hotels seem a little expensive, restaurants are not. There are lots of low-end choices and some good mid-tier choices. In the mid-tier restaurants, the menus look similar (fish, beef, chicken, a little pork, salads) , but the food is well-prepared and tasty.

I even ate lunch twice at the small outdoor restaurant directly across from the Hampton Hotel. For about 15mil (USD $8) I got a large carne asada (skirt steak) , french fries AND rice, and a tomato slice / lettuce mini-salad. Even better was the lemonade, which seems a Cartagena specialty. Everywhere I ate I ordered lemonade, and it was always delicious.

Good luck to all![/QUOTE]I thought this was Tripadvisor? But Better!

[QUOTE=Hioctane;1473867]Did I miss a veiled reference to Israelis? There certainly are a lot of Israelis in Cartagena. I've lost count of how many chicas in Cartagena know Hebrew![/QUOTE]Veiled? Quite the opposite. Just info for a first-timer in sorting it out. Cartegena a useful opportunity for Americans who seldom get the chance to observe the Isreali first-hand and form his own opinions. Like the girls have, LOL.

[quote=hioctane;1473856]you should always go with chicas that have ids. make sure they have before you leave to go to your place. i won't even go into why you would want to bring someone back without id.[/quote]

the reason is very simple: i want it easy and hassle-free.
last year i was with a very nice girl, kind, cheerful, beautiful. when we went back to my hotel i discovered she didn't have the cedula and we weren't allowed to enter my room :mad:
no, she was not a schoolgirl or whatever like that. i think it's ages that there is no such things in cartagena. she was a normal pretty girl around 18-20 from medellin, like others you meet at elektra.

so we had to take a taxi and move to la jaiba. besides the additional cost, it is not the same to go to a motel for sex, or enjoying sleeping at your place with a girl you like.

not having the cedula does not mean a girl is ****. possessing a cedula implies a bureaucratic procedure that not everybody carries in colombia.

to be sincere, i don't understand all this fixation that i notice here about ids. i divide my monger time between south america (colombia mainly) and southeast asia (singapore, kuala lumpur, indonesia), where i go often for work. in singapore, kuala lumpur, or indonesia, no hotel ever asked my guests to show id and register at the front desk. and i am speaking about sheraton and other upper-class hotels, not dicey small places. i come back with my new friends, i say hello to security, and we go to elevator. so simple! no hassle! i like simple life.

finally, cartagena is the first place i ever heard in my life, where if you rent an apartment you are requested to register your guests at the front desk! so, what's the point to rent an apartment?? when i rent an apartment, the apartment is mine and i invite whoever i like, as far as guests are decent, do not make noise or do something that affects negatively the reputation of the building.

ps: is elektra now up and running as at old times? i will be back in december.

[quote=black page; 1474385]the reason is very simple: i want it easy and hassle-free.

last year i was with a very nice girl, kind, cheerful, beautiful. when we went back to my hotel i discovered she didn't have the cedula and we weren't allowed to enter my room :mad:

no, she was not a schoolgirl or whatever like that. i think it's ages that there is no such things in cartagena. she was a normal pretty girl around 18-20 from medellin, like others you meet at elektra.

so we had to take a taxi and move to la jaiba. besides the additional cost, it is not the same to go to a motel for sex, or enjoying sleeping at your place with a girl you like.

not having the cedula does not mean a girl is ****. possessing a cedula implies a bureaucratic procedure that not everybody carries in colombia.

to be sincere, i don't understand all this fixation that i notice here about ids. i divide my monger time between south america (colombia mainly) and southeast asia (singapore, kuala lumpur, indonesia) , where i go often for work. in singapore, kuala lumpur, or indonesia, no hotel ever asked my guests to show i'd and register at the front desk. and i am speaking about sheraton and other upper-class hotels, not dicey small places. i come back with my new friends, i say hello to security, and we go to elevator. so simple! no hassle! i like simple life.

ps: is elektra now up and running as at old times? i will be back in december.[/quote]it is a legal requirement to have a cedula after the age of 18. they are free and you can do almost nothing without one. if you are a foreigner with any type of visa that is good for a year or more. you have 2 weeks after entering colombia to apply for a cedula extraneria.

"every resident of colombia over the age of 14 must bear an identity card (tarjeta de identidad). upon turning 18 every resident must obtain a cédula de ciudadanía, which is the only document that proves the identity of a person for legal purposes. i'd cards must be carried at all times and must be presented to the police or military upon request. if the individual fails to present the i'd card upon request by the police or the military, he / she is most likely going to be detained for 24 hours at a upj (unidad permanente de justicia) even if he / she is not a suspect of any wrongdoing. i'd cards are needed to obtain employment, open bank accounts, obtain a passport, driver's license, military card, to enroll in educational institutions, vote or enter public buildings including airports and courthouses. failure to produce i'd is a misdemeanor punishable with a fine.

id cards are free of charge, and duplicates are also free."

id cards for minors are called contraseñas. as are the temporary id cards given to adults who are waiting for their cedulas if they some how lose their cedulas.

[QUOTE=Black Page; 1474385]The reason is very simple: I want it easy and hassle-free.

Last year I was with a very nice girl, kind, cheerful, beautiful. When we went back to my hotel I discovered she didn't have the cedula and we weren't allowed to enter my room :mad:

No, she was not a schoolgirl or whatever like that. I think it's ages that there is no such things in Cartagena. She was a normal pretty girl around 18-20 from Medellin, like others you meet at Elektra.

Finally, Cartagena is the FIRST PLACE I EVER HEARD in my life, where if you rent an apartment you are requested to register your guests at the front desk! So, what's the point to rent an apartment? When I rent an apartment, the apartment is mine and I invite whoever I like, as far as guests are decent, do not make noise or do something that affects negatively the reputation of the building.[/QUOTE]If you understand Colombia's attitude towards sex, and the problems that Colombia has in general, this is just nonsense. I have lived in many apartments with security in MDE. Neighbors in buildings are very disrespectful when it comes to noise. The police won't respond to phone calls from security and if they do arrive apartment owners won't open their doors and will continue making noise. This certainly doesn't sound like an environment where registering a guest would be necessary. I have had many girls 18-20 years old and there has never been a question asked. This is what happens when a bunch of tourists overrun a small area and this is what has happened in Cartagena IMO.

[QUOTE=Black Page; 1474385]The reason is very simple: I want it easy and hassle-free.

Finally, Cartagena is the FIRST PLACE I EVER HEARD in my life, where if you rent an apartment you are requested to register your guests at the front desk! So, what's the point to rent an apartment? When I rent an apartment, the apartment is mine and I invite whoever I like, as far as guests are decent, do not make noise or do something that affects negatively the reputation of the building.

PS: is Elektra now up and running as at old times? I will be back in December.[/QUOTE]Building administrations have incredible amount of power. Most buildings do not require guests to sign in but I have lived in ones that do and they tend to be buildings that allow short term rentals of less than a month.

I lived in a building that used to allow short term rentals of less than a month and then a European guy rented an apartment down the hall and let someone in that stabbed him. He survived but it freaked the neighbors out so bad that they stopped short term rentals of less than a month and now everybody has to sign in regardless.

Greetings,

Can anyone give me a description of the onsite backroom facilities at the Pleyclub? I've done take out but never opted for the in house.

Thanks

[quote=black page; 1474385]no, she was not a schoolgirl or whatever like that. i think it's ages that there is no such things in cartagena. she was a normal pretty girl around 18-20 from medellin, like others you meet at elektra.

not having the cedula does not mean a girl is ****.[/quote]she sounds like a nice normal girl that just happens to be a prostitute out hooking with johns at 3:00 in the morning. she looked to be 18 to 20 years old but did not have id. so in summery, a girl, no id, hooker, middle of the night. please, come live on my building, you are just the kind of neighbor i want living next to me.

be serious.

To be the Devil's advocate, the cedula rule most of the time is for your own good. If any chica rips you off, they have her information at the front desk.

Also, remember that there are families living in the apartment buildings in Cartagena, the buildings are not soley there to provide rentals to mongers. Many times those families frown on mongering, so they create rules to slow it down.

Lastly, I never bang a girl without seeing her cedula. If she doesn't have it, we part ways until she does. Just because she looks 18 doesn't mean she's not 17 and a half, and that's a risk I'm not willing to take.

[QUOTE=El Vagabundo; 1475001]She sounds like a nice normal girl that just happens to be a prostitute out hooking with Johns at 3:00 in the morning. She looked to be 18 to 20 years old but did not have I'd. So in summery, a girl, no I'd, hooker, middle of the night. Please, come live on my building, you are just the kind of neighbor I want living next to me.

Be serious.[/QUOTE]You depicted her! I don't understand the "be serious". I am very serious. By the way, I don't like hunting with company. I am a lone wolf.

My first report from CTG was maybe in 2007 or something. I have had so much fun here, that it matches only with what I see in Batam.
My last series of reports from CTG:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2016-Links-to-Reports-of-Distinction&p=1364465&viewfull=1#post1364465[/url]
This girl is mentioned there (Emily).
I went to CTG also for 3 more days in February, but I did not link the reports to the RoD. I was stuck with one girl all the time (the one I also invited to Medellin, think what!).

[QUOTE=TheShadow2; 1475042]To be the Devil's advocate, the cedula rule most of the time is for your own good. If any chica rips you off, they have her information at the front desk.

Also, remember that there are families living in the apartment buildings in Cartagena, the buildings are not soley there to provide rentals to mongers. Many times those families frown on mongering, so they create rules to slow it down.

Lastly, I never bang a girl without seeing her cedula. If she doesn't have it, we part ways until she does. Just because she looks 18 doesn't mean she's not 17 and a half, and that's a risk I'm not willing to take.[/QUOTE]I know and I agree with what you say in first 2 paragraphs.

You mean you have a clear conscience if she is 18yo +1day, but you feel guilty if her 18th birthday is the day after? Ethically speaking, I don't see the difference.

[QUOTE=El Vagabundo; 1475001]She sounds like a nice normal girl that just happens to be a prostitute out hooking with Johns at 3:00 in the morning. She looked to be 18 to 20 years old but did not have I'd. So in summery, a girl, no I'd, hooker, middle of the night. Please, come live on my building, you are just the kind of neighbor I want living next to me.

Be serious.[/QUOTE]He completely didn't get it. But, nice try. What would happen to senor Blackpage and his cedula-less pick-up should they visit the police stop in Laguito coming back from Elecktra at 3:00? If she doesn't show cedula, or when she shows one with a pre-18-year old feliz cumpleaños?

[QUOTE=Black Page; 1475146]I know and I agree with what you say in first 2 paragraphs.

You mean you have a clear conscience if she is 18yo +1day, but you feel guilty if her 18th birthday is the day after? Ethically speaking, I don't see the difference.[/QUOTE]Ethically there may be no difference, but legally, there is. At least for me, as I'm from the USA. According to the United States Department of Justice,"any American citizen or resident who engages in sexual conduct with a minor in a foreign land is subject to federal prosecution."

Yeah dude, I am sure the feds will be beating down your door over a tiny cash transaction at 3AM in a foreign country that has rampant and mostly legal prostitution. Get real. It sounds like the guy took a minor ethical risk, but wow is it being blown out of proportion here.

[quote=theshadow2;1475293]ethically there may be no difference, but legally, there is. at least for me, as i'm from the usa. according to the united states department of justice,"any american citizen or resident who engages in sexual conduct with a minor in a foreign land is subject to federal prosecution."[/quote]i have some bad news. being prostitution illegal in all (but one) us states, i am afraid that us citizens can be prosecuted at home [i]also if proven actively engaged in patronizing prostitutes or the like in a foreign country[/i]. not to mention the americans i have seen smoking cripa in ctg or mde.
(i checked: in my country, i am not prosecuted if proven having paid for sex in colombia)

however, the discussion is taking a wrong direction. i did not mean to make all this noise, neither i meant to condone wrong behaviours (**** p4p) which - simply stated - are plain [u]against ethics[/u]. this does not belong to me.

i began pointing out that ctg is the only place i know in the world, where if you rent an apartment you are still required to register your guests with id, like in a hotel. this sounds unprecedented and frankly astonishing to my ears. and not willing to register with id does not mean necessarily that there is some illegal activity running in background. for example, imagine you go with a married lady. where is the privacy of your guest?

finally, fake cedulas can be bought quite easily in colombia and are not expensive. if a girl is, say, 17 but plans to move from mde to ctg to earn some easy cash, she just has to buy one. seeing a cedula is not enough to be safe, if one is concerned about feds.

[quote=black page; 1475454]i have some bad news. being prostitution illegal in all (but one) us states, i am afraid that us citizens can be prosecuted at home [i]also if proven actively engaged in patronizing prostitutes or the like in a foreign country[/i]. not to mention the americans i have seen smoking cripa in ctg or mde.

(i checked: in my country, i am not prosecuted if proven having paid for sex in colombia)

however, the discussion is taking a wrong direction. i did not mean to make all this noise, neither i meant to condone wrong behaviours (**** p4p) which. simply stated. are plain [u]against ethics[/u]. this does not belong to me.

i began pointing out that ctg is the only place i know in the world, where if you rent an apartment you are still required to register your guests with i'd, like in a hotel. this sounds unprecedented and frankly astonishing to my ears. and not willing to register with i'd does not mean necessarily that there is some illegal activity running in background. for example, imagine you go with a married lady. where is the privacy of your guest?

finally, fake cedulas can be bought quite easily in colombia and are not expensive. if a girl is, say. 17 but plans to move from mde to ctg to earn some easy cash, she just has to buy one. seeing a cedula is not enough to be safe, if one is concerned about feds.[/quote]bp,

do you have a link to verify your "bad news"? i spent a while searching the web (even used your direct quote in italics) and found nothing verifying your "news". i did find this though, from a lawyer writing about the cartagena secret service scandal:

"americans who solicit adult prostitutes abroad, in countries where they're legal, generally do not face liability in the united states. (americans who solicit child sex workers, however, have been prosecuted.)"

regardless, i, like you, am tiring of this topic. we all have our own comfort levels. obviously the odds are overwhelming in the mongers favor that no one is going to know or bother prosecuting. if you're comfortable with those odds, carry on. personally, i like to cover all my bases when the possible price i could pay outweighs the benefits.

I tried to delete this post after I read that everyone was tired of hearing about it! So I am sorry, but it would not delete


[QUOTE=TheShadow2; 1475465]BP,

Do you have a link to verify your "bad news"? I spent a while searching the web (even used your direct quote in italics) and found nothing verifying your "news". I did find this though, from a lawyer writing about the Cartagena Secret Service scandal:

"Americans who solicit adult prostitutes abroad, in countries where they're legal, generally do not face liability in the United States. (Americans who solicit child sex workers, however, have been prosecuted.)"

Regardless, I, like you, am tiring of this topic. We all have our own comfort levels. Obviously the odds are overwhelming in the mongers favor that no one is going to know or bother prosecuting. If you're comfortable with those odds, carry on. Personally, I like to cover all my bases when the possible price I could pay outweighs the benefits.[/QUOTE]It is not illegal for citizens of United States to solicit prostitutes in countries where it is legal, but it is illegal to travel abroad and have paid sex with a minor. I Know that THeShadow2 is not considering minors so this is not addressed to him. If anyone is considering having sex with a minor (which even discussing the intention is against the forum rules on this site) then the person considering it should read this website; [url]http://www.ice.gov/news/releases/1210/121017washingtondc.htm[/url]

Here is the link to the US Code on the Cornell University Law School website [url]http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2423[/url]

Hey guys I will be going to CTG for my second time. First time I went was back in 2007 and Mery hooked me up with a great room at Mirador de Laguito. Any info or help on recent activity (Day, street, la termas, LDV) I had a couple great experiences with girls on the street back in 2007 for only 40-80mil pesos for ST! (all 6-8's). And average 125mil pesos ST at any of the clubs (la termas) or like 200mil for a whole day. Now I am hearing about this 300mil pesos 600mil pesos. 200 us dollars ST etc! That is way too high, I can get better in the states.

I already spent a fortune including the flight from east central USA to CTG and for the 7 nights stay. I prefer to use my money wisely and not spend 200mil pesos for ST! Any info on rookie monger appreciated!

[QUOTE=GucciJayda; 1476342]Hey guys I will be going to CTG for my second time. First time I went was back in 2007 and Mery hooked me up with a great room at Mirador de Laguito. Any info or help on recent activity (Day, street, la termas, LDV) I had a couple great experiences with girls on the street back in 2007 for only 40-80mil pesos for ST! (all 6-8's). And average 125mil pesos ST at any of the clubs (la termas) or like 200mil for a whole day. Now I am hearing about this 300mil pesos 600mil pesos. 200 us dollars ST etc! That is way too high, I can get better in the states.

I already spent a fortune including the flight from east central USA to CTG and for the 7 nights stay. I prefer to use my money wisely and not spend 200mil pesos for ST! Any info on rookie monger appreciated![/QUOTE]If you are on a strict budget stay away from LDV, it has gotten bad, drinking minimum is outrageous, for 100 mil or less you are going to have to go for street girls, on spot is the plaza de coches, the benches across from Tu Candela, if you walk in under the clock tower it is to your left, and around the park across the street from the clock tower. During the day you can scour Playa Holywood, but do not use a middle man, my guess is that most chicas who smile at a gringo are working girls

[QUOTE=Mojo Bandit;1477291]If you are on a strict budget stay away from LDV, it has gotten bad, drinking minimum is outrageous, for 100 mil or less you are going to have to go for street girls, on spot is the plaza de coches, the benches across from Tu Candela, if you walk in under the clock tower it is to your left, and around the park across the street from the clock tower. During the day you can scour Playa Holywood, but do not use a middle man, my guess is that most chicas who smile at a gringo are working girls[/QUOTE]Thanks Bandit! Wow outrageous. I know LDV was quite expensive in 2007 too. I went once and I never liked it Because there is no point going to LDV money wise IMHO. When I went in 2007, there were street walkers right outside my hotel in laguito, I didn't even need to walk to clock tower or the beach. Times change but I hope it's still a safe and fun trip.

BTW it will be raining all week on and off, where could I find street girls then? Other then the clubs.

[QUOTE=GucciJayda; 1477330]Thanks Bandit! Wow outrageous. I know LDV was quite expensive in 2007 too. I went once and I never liked it Because there is no point going to LDV money wise IMHO. When I went in 2007, there were street walkers right outside my hotel in laguito, I didn't even need to walk to clock tower or the beach. Times change but I hope it's still a safe and fun trip.

BTW it will be raining all week on and off, where could I find street girls then? Other then the clubs.[/QUOTE]When I was there in July it rained on and off, sometimes it rained hard for like an hour and then would stop for a while, but I think it does rain more there this time of year. Without going to any clubs the only strategy I could think of would be to catch a taxi to Plaza de Coches at nigh, in between rain pour downs and hang out near the Tu Candela and when it rains there is some shelter since all the buildings have portico on the ground floor, take an umbrella and if you find a chica you can escort her to a taxi

[QUOTE=Mojo Bandit;1477518]When I was there in July it rained on and off, sometimes it rained hard for like an hour and then would stop for a while, but I think it does rain more there this time of year. Without going to any clubs the only strategy I could think of would be to catch a taxi to Plaza de Coches at nigh, in between rain pour downs and hang out near the Tu Candela and when it rains there is some shelter since all the buildings have portico on the ground floor, take an umbrella and if you find a chica you can escort her to a taxi[/QUOTE]Yes I realized it too late that October is the heavy rain season. Thanks for all your help bud.

i spent 7 days in cartagena in april and 5 days in cali in september, i have done a brief comparison of the 2 cities for your review:

currency:

the colombian peso cop fluctuates daily in comparison to us currency therefore there is no way to predict what the exchange rate will be in the future. in both cartagena and cali you will need to do commerce with cop, i recommend checking your bank exchange rate as well as considering atm fees for the amount of cop needed. you can also exchange us for cop at different locations on the ground in both cities the exchange rate varying from 1600cop-1 us to 1800-1us currently.

note: neither cartagena or cali is like sosua, dominican republic where you can have a level of trust of changing money on the street. under no circumstances would i change money on the street in either city.

lodging:

mirador laquito: (cartagena)

i had an excellent studio apartment for $60. 00 per night. the building is located in laquito. i didn't have a good view but i was more than satisfied for the price. there was a kitchen, dining bar, living room and decent size bedroom all in the same space. the internet was slow sometimes but overall it was pretty efficient. security was on point 24 hours a day. chicas had to sign in with cedula and the front door was always locked, you had to be buzzed in and out by security.

there was no room safe but the building did have a small pool available for the residents. the advantage to the mirador was the location was familiar to all the taxi drivers and there were atm's and restaurants close by within a 10 minute walk.

parceros townhouse: (cali)

the townhouse is located in barrio santa monica residencial which is a quiet neighborhood with several other townhouses on the street. the town house is on the 4th floor which is on the top floor of the building. there are 2 front balconies and 1 rear balcony all of which provide an excellent view. i enjoyed the breeze in the late evening. and there is no elevator so be prepared to exercise. the townhouse is a 2 story with a winding staircase and 2 bedrooms down stairs and 2 bedrooms upstairs. there is a kitchen living room and small den with a television. i was given a key to my room the townhouse and the main door downstairs. the master bedroom was $53. 00 per night which included breakfast. the wi-fi connection was excellent with great speed.

there is no doorman for security you are simply given keys to a double lock downstairs and a door key to the apartment and a separate door key to your room. there is no room safe and the building did not have a pool available for the residents. the advantage to parcero's townhouse is its location. you could do the majority of things you would like to do within a 15 minute radius.

neighborhoods:

laquito in cartagena. had more of a tourist feel with plenty of expensive hotels and restaurants. it was a mixed residential and tourist area with a plethora of apartment buildings. most everything you needed was within a 10 minute walking distance.

barrio santa monica residential in cali. was a very comfortable and safe residential neighborhood. barrio santa monica residential had more of a middleclass neighborhood feel with grocery stores, parks and a mall all within a 15 minute walking distance.

note: both areas were relatively safe and put me in the mind of recoleta, buenas aires, miraflores, lima and poblado, medellin. i walked around the areas during the day and well into the evening with no problems.

weather:

cartagena. the weather during my stay was generally hot and humid throughout since the city is at the mouth of the caribbean sea. it is not un-common to have 95 degree temperatures during the day and it cools down at night to about 75 degrees.

cali- the weather during my stay was quite pleasant, it was about 85 degrees during the day and 70 degrees at night. it was a dry heat with very little humidity so i didn't sweat that much. the early mornings and late evenings were very comfortable. the townhouse is situated at the foot of a hill so parcero would leave the windows open so we could get the breeze of the hill which was quite enjoyable.

transportation:

cartagena- walking was easy to most spots in laquito and boca grand which is the next neighborhood over. taxis to the old city were about $3. 00.

cali- walking was easy to most places in barrio santa monica residencial. all taxis have a meter that is set at the beginning of the trip, most of my trips were less than $3. 00. when i rode to the other side of town i spent around $13. 00. the buses are called mio and you have to buy a electronic debit card that is called a "gane" for $1. 50 and you recharge it at different locations throughout the city. each trip was. 85. the buses were modern clean and air-conditioned.

la comida:

cartagena. there were a variety according to taste but i enjoyed riquisimo's which was within walking distance of my apartment in laquito. the food was good but on the expensive side dishes for $20. 00 or more. there was something for everybody within walking distance. there are more than enough us fast food chains from mcdonalds to burger king because cartagena has more of a tourist flavor.

cali. if you are the type of person who travels to eat at burger king and kentucky fried chicken cali is not the place for you. cali provides an authentic latin american culinary experience. typical foods such as chicken, steak, beans & rice, soups and salads make the staple of the latin american diet. you can eat a hearty meal which includes soup, salad, meat, and 2 sides for between $3. 00. $7. 00 depending on the type of restaurant you are in.

casas de la citas cartagena.

i do not have the exact addresses of the below listed cartagena casas but if you give your taxista the name of the casa and the barrio he should be able to find it. some of these casa are called "the poor man's casas" and some as you can see not so much.

the pley club- location: barrio bosque:

the most expensive casa in cartagena apparently they pay a big tarifa to taxistas. the casa was dark and dingy inside with a bar dance floor and a few chairs. there were chicas sitting outside and a few inside. the average chica was about a 7, i was not impressed!

• 1 hour 300, 000cop ($158. 00)

los angeles. location: barrio brusseles:

this joint was scary as hell! security is there at the gate which is pad locked. security opens the gate and pad locks it behind you. you walk into a dark house where you can see little of anything what i could see of the chicas the average was a 6.

• 1 hour 150, 000cop ($79. 00)

chicas linda. barrio bomba del amparo:

chicas linda is next store to chicas rica. chicas linda is nice inside with a wide bar a dance floor and plenty of plastic white chairs to talk to the chicas. the club was well lighted and good for meeting the chicas. the average chica was about a 7. i swore i saw riahnna there she was soooooooooooo fyne it was ridiculous but she looked too mean!

• 30 minutes 100, 000cop ($53. 00)

empana. location :barrio los alpes:

it was very dark and there were about a half dozen women averaging about a 7 most of them looked board.

• 30 minutes 150, 000cop ($79. 00)

allondra- barrio los alpes:

this joint was off dah chain! there were so many fyne chicas in there is was ridiculous! the average chica was an 8 like real model types about a dozen were working.

• 30 minutes 70, 000cop. ($37. 00)

chicas rica- barrio bomba del amparo:

• 30 minutes 40, 000cop ($21. 00)

casas de la citas-cali.

cali has more casas than you can count and while there are some high end casas there are some excellent tarifas with chicas that rate 7-8 in many of them.

las calenas 2: cra 44 #5b. 79b tequndama.

i saw approximately a half dozen chicas which ranged from 6-8. most of them were glued to their cell phones which were plugged in the wall charging. i was turned off by their in-attentiveness.

• 1 hour: 90, 000cop ($47. 00)

nuts & bolts (tuercas why tornillos) : calle 17n #5n. 33.

i went to nuts & bolts which is behind a big metal non descript door. you press the button and security opens the door has you face the camera and pats you down. then you stand in the center of the hallway and a chica comes out and pats you down again this time checking your package. about 7 chicas came out none of them were less than a 7 and a couple were pushing 9. the set up here was totally different from calena 2 in that there was no music playing or bar where guys could sit around and talk. you pick the chica you want do the deed then hasta luego. before i left my chica said she had to call down stairs and i spoke with the mamasan who asked me how was my service and i said "esta bien" even though it was average. parcero later told me that nuts & bolts is one of the strictest casas in cali.

• 1 hour 65000cop ($34. 00)

jc: avenida segunda b norte 34n 55.

the walls were white brick and there were plastic chairs with a small wall fan in the seating area. the chicas presented themselves and all of 5 of them ranged from 7-8 i was impressed with the line up from such a crappy place but they weren't the friendliest group.

• 1 hour 100000cop ($52. 00)

kaliente calle: 25 norte #2 bis-47.

kaliente wasn't too caliente you walk into a non descript house sit down in the living room and 3 chicas came out and introduced themselves. the chicas ranged between 5-6 and none were very inviting. the increments are as follows:

• 1 hour 100000cop ($52. 00)

the mediterranean spa: calle 28 norte #4n-72.

this casa had a very nice atmosphere that looked like a spa with comfortable chairs and beautiful pictures of models on the walls. there were 4 chicas who introduced themselves. the chicas ranged between 5-6 and all seemed to be very pleasant and inviting.

• 1 hour 80000cop ($42. 00)

the deluxe club: calle 5 #65-25.

this casa was very nice inside set up like a club with chairs a dance floor and stripper pole. there were 6 chicas that introduced themselves. most were 6's but there was one that looked like a model who fell out of a magazine she was a 9. this joint was plastic surgery central and some of the women looked like they were ready to explode. the tarifas here were ridiculous in comparison to the other cali casa and not worth the expense imho.

• 1 hour 250-350cop ($131. 00- $184. 00)

la clinica dr amor: avenida 2n no 23n-23.

this casa was nice inside but it was obvious they were doing some renovations with unfinished paint on the walls. normally they pat you down but since i was with parcero i just got waived through. there is a big living room with several couches and you can be seated and wait for the chicas to come out and introduce themselves. i would rate most of the chicas between 7-8. there were about a dozen chicas present and maybe 1 or 2 were 9's. the tarifas are based on 3 different levels classic, vip and platinum and the chicas wear bands to indicate their status.

• 1 hour 90000cop ($47. 00)

la picina: next door to jc at avenida segunda b norte 34n 55.

although the talent pool fluctuates this was my favorite casa in cali because of the ambiance. the chicas hang outside and greet you as you walk in. there is a waiting area and a pool area where you sit and wait for the chicas to come out and introduce themselves. everyone i saw was decent ranging from 7-9 and they all seemed to be very pleasant. some casa girls it is obvious they don't want to be there but these girls had a very pleasant disposition.

• 1 hour 80000cop ($42. 00)

note: always remember that the casa business is a fluid in colombia, casas open and close frequently and the talent pool varies from one day to the next. one day a specific casa may be a gold mine and the next day it may be a salt mine. most casas have take out where you pay a fine and negotiate separately with the chica her tarifa.

other sex venues:

the only sex venues i visited in cali were the casas but in cartagena the sex venues for freelancers are more diverse for example:

la playa:

there are chulos on the beach that can get chicas for you expect to pay a minimum 150, 000 cop for this service and the chicas can range from 5-9 depending on the day of the week. many of the chicas that you see alone or in groups are available a little eye to eye contact and body language should be sufficient to let you know if you should move forward. you can keep your cost less between 100, 000. 150, 000 cop if she insist on more you have met a shark on the beach.

the old city at the clock tower:

activity starts at dark with chicas that range between 5-8. be careful because you will find transvestites and homosexuals in the same area. i wouldn't pay more than 100, 000 cop for any of the chicas in this area regardless as to how beautiful she was.

la dolce vida (ldv) :

the most popular freelance bar in cartagena and for that reason it is plastic surgery central, some of the chicas look like if you stick them with a pin they would pop. in addition you are likely to see the best colombia has to offer because colombianas come from all over the country to work this venue. tarifas range from 150, 000cop- 350, 000cop. personally i wouldn't pay any more than 200, 000cop regardless as to how beautiful she was. it has been reported that ldv had an 80, 000cop drink minimum which can be avoided simply by getting the chicas number and meeting her later.

electrika in the old city:

is a hole in the wall small after hours joint in cartagena that some chicas go to after ldv closes. the tarifas can range from 150, 000cp- 350, 000cop. you have leverage in this venue because it is at the end of the night and if a chica hasn't worked she is more open to negotiation i would stay between 150 – 200, 000cop. there is also a 80, 000cop drink minimum here that can be avoided by meeting the chica outside separately. if you leave with a chica you will be stopped and asked to any up.

la polica & danger:

always carry a copy of your passport with you because there is a police presence everywhere especially at night. there is no such thing as reasonable articulable suspicion or probable cause in colombia, be prepared!

cartagena. is a the primary tourist destination in colombia and for this reason it has a great police presence. there is a police station in the middle of laquito and road blocks abound especially at night. it is not uncommon to be stopped at a road block or by la policia riding motorcycles and be patted down. if i were you i would avoid party favors it could save you allot of grief. if you are stopped by the la policia you may notice an uncomfortable pause, this is the time were there may be an implicit expectation of a "multa." whether you pay this "multa" or not will depend on what you have been stopped for. if you have done nothing you can simply say "lo siento senor mil disculpes" or just speak in english. be wary of pushy street vendors who wave t-shirts and other objects in your face if you don't want it don't touch it! a simple "estoy bien" or "no gracias" will do.

cali- is not a tourist town so the law enforcement emphasis is different. i noticed just as many la policia en cali as in cartagena but they seemed to be more polite imho. there is a police station in the center of barrio santa monica residential and while police vehicles abound throughout the city i noticed no road blocks during my stay. it not uncommon for the la polica to drive around at night with their red lights flashing therefore most times there will be no reason for alarm.

note:

it might sound obvious, but don't walk around flashing expensive cameras, jewelry, wads of money etc. places like beaches, outside banks and the area around the clock tower are favored pickpocket haunts.

the biggest concern that many people would have with cali is the reputation it shared with medellin in the 1980's-90's with the medellin- cali drug cartels. pablo escobar is dead and although the drug trade is still alive in colombia the government has made significant strides combating the problem. even the problems the government was having with guerillas and para-militaries in the country side has seriously been abated. it is not that there is no threat in colombia it's that the threat is minimal and not a significant reason not to travel to this beautiful country. cali is no utopia by any stretch of the imagination however it is possible to do well with the right strategy.

chicas:

the subject of the most beautiful women in the world can be debated into eternity but i prefer colombianas because of their ethnic diversity. both cities have their share of people of european, indian and african decent which makes for an incredible mix. colombians are truly a hybrid group of people.

observations:

• cali was different from cartagena because it is not a tourist town it lacked a beach and in general everything was less expensive. if there was a gringo tax it was hidden unlike cartagena where it is obvious you are getting gouged.

• you do not need fluent spanish in cali but it would be advisable to have basic spanish if you should decide to visit as there are not as many english speakers as in cartagena.

• since cartagena is a tourist city you will have to deal with touts. touts are people who are trying to get you to buy something from souvenirs to directing you to a casa de cita. touts are annoying as hell and you can simply respond by saying "no gracias."

• cartagena and cali have more casa de citas than you can count. in addition they open and close regularly and have varying ebb and flows throughout the course of the week with the weekends being the busiest time. i sense that the facebook, freelance and civilian chica market is very fertile here for a person who has the time to invest.

conclusion:

i have a personal fondness for cartagena because it was the first city i visited in colombia and i made acquaintances there, so i have ties to the city. in addition the old city at night in my opinion is one of the most beautiful cities in the western hemisphere. however, if i had to make a choice between the 2 cities i would choose cali for the below listed reasons:

• weather, cartagena is uncomfortably hot and humid and cali is hot during the day but absolutely beautiful at night except during the rainy season.

• the gringo tax, almost everything in cartagena is more expensive if you are a gringo. unless you have an inside connection be prepared to pay more. the chicas come from all over colombia for one reason and one reason alone "to get paid!" the same chica you get in cartagena can likely be had in her home town for half the price with a better attitude.

• although cali was a big city i found most of the people i met to be more than hospitable, more so than cartagena.

as in all things ymmv i encourage you to visit both cities and make an assessment for yourselves.

Hi guys,

Thanks for the info! I couldn't do much research before I came here as work was hammering me because I was leaving for travel, so now I am ready for my own hammering. Thanks to you guys I have some idea now and will be planning on acting on it.

So LDV is a bar with no rooms etc, whereas a 'casa' has these. Is this correct? But then the hotel gave me a wristband I guess to prevent guests, I'll figure out something.

[QUOTE=DcPlaneGuy; 1478136]Hi guys,

Thanks for the info! I couldn't do much research before I came here as work was hammering me because I was leaving for travel, so now I am ready for my own hammering. Thanks to you guys I have some idea now and will be planning on acting on it.

So LDV is a bar with no rooms etc, whereas a 'casa' has these. Is this correct? But then the hotel gave me a wristband I guess to prevent guests, I'll figure out something.[/QUOTE]Hi DcPlaneGuy,

Yes LDV (La Dolce Vita) is a bar located in a small shopping centre across the road from the Hotel Dann Cartagena in El Laguito. For years (long berore the Secret Service scandal) LDV has been a well known place where foreign tourists go to pick up a pro or semi-pro chica. LDV is not a casa and as such there are no 'sex on premise' facilities there. LDV is about the easiest place to find a chica to get laid in CTG although as many of the more experienced mongers on here can testify the prices can be much more expensive. When you pick up a chica in LDV she will go back to your apartment or hotel room. If your hotel is not chica friendly, or for work / professional reasons you don't want to be seen bringing ladies back to your room then there are other options.

Casas are basically places where you can have sex on the premises with the chica you choose. I have no experience using casas in CTG so I am not the best person to advise you about this. In addition to LDV and casas it is easy to pick up chicas in other areas too. If you are staying in El Laguito then if you sit in front of your hotel or apartment building there is a reasonable chance that at some point you will be approached by ladies asking if you are interested. Another place is the beach during the day, all you literally have to do is stand on the beach and look like a gringo and chances are that you will be approached by chicas or touts offering you chicas. In the evening in the old town there are some opportunities, the plaza near the Puerto del Reloj (the old clock gate) is an area where women will make eye contact or try to attract your attention as you walk past. Across the road from the Puerto del Reloj there is a park in the neighbourhood of Getsemani there are plenty of street walkers, most of these girls were of poorer quality in the looks department, but occassionally you may find a spinner. I would not advise hunting around Getsameni at night, but during the day it is ok.

Essentially LDV is a safe venue in a safe part of town, there is a wide variety of chicas on offer and the quality can be high. But LDV prices can be very high and some of the girls are hardened pros who are more interested in separating you from your cash and then moving onto the next customer, of course you still can have a great experience from LDV. Picking up chicas in the streets and on the beach tends to be much cheaper, some of the girls can also be experts at fleecing tourists so you need to be careful and the quality and variety of the chicas may not be as good as LDV but there are some great exceptions. Now if you pick up a chica from LDV or elsewhere and you cannot go back to your hotel a good option is to use a short-time love hotel. In CTG such places often provide clean and safe facilities, a large bed, shower and small fridge with drinks, they often provide condoms too. I once used a place called Las Dunas, I can't remember the address but maybe there is another monger on here who will know of it, it was clean and inexpensive and discreet, the taxi pulled into a garage right next to the room. A place like this would be a good option for you if your hotel is not chica friendly. All the best and enjoy.

Very good. I arrived here late Saturday night. Prices definitely went up a bit from 2006 which is expected with the rising tourism and safety in Colombia (president). Beautiful woman as always and street walker prepagos easy to find in laguito or bocagrande in the night and day (many of them very beautiful and many not so beautiful). Food used to be around 5k mil pesos for carne asada and now it averages around 15k-20k mil pesos!

I can say my second time here, still only about 5% or less of the residents here speak any english. IMHO it is very hard for a monger that speaks no spanish to get by with good deals and / or without a translator / guide (more $$$). Everyone here always wants to rip off gringos and get propina. Which is likely because many people here just barely make enough money to survive. I speak decent spanish as a second language and am able to get by on my own and negotiate with chicas. IN CTG, almost everything is negotiatable as far as chicas and services go. A lot of street prepagos ask for around 200mil pesos for ST but I am able to haggle down considerably. I do not like using touts because I always end up spending a considerable amount more.

Chicas on the street that are 6-9's I am able to haggle down to only 80-120mil pesos short time. In 2007 it was around 40-80mil pesos. I went to playa de Hollywood a couple times and chicas with a tout I haggled down alltogether for around 120 mil pesos for 7-9's. I think its very hard to get a girl without a tout in playa de Hollywood because there are so many touts everywhere and they act like all the girls are theirs. Girls are beautiful everywhere I go without a doubt. I went to plaza de las coches twice and found some ok / decent girls there for around 100mil pesos short time negotiated of course. Be careful alot of girls are very smart and some of them will try to rob you in your apt when your in the bathroom or not watching. I had one girl from plaza de las coches agree on 50mil pesos for short time and then got bipolar in my apartment and I ended up giving her 20k mil pesos more. Very bad and scary experience, chick seemed normal until we got in my room and she got evil. In 2007, I had two street girls in my apartment and they plotted together to go into my pants and attempt to take my wallet but I caught her and kicked them out. Thats why I do not like more than one girl at a time from my experience.

Casas are way more safe as far as sanitation and chicks go. I went to casa de Rosio's about 20 minutes drive from el Laguito. Beautiful woman! 7-10's. And cheap! I only paid around 100mil pesos for girl and casa but I did buy alot of drinks and a few for the chick.

Careful about buying drogas here! I got searched my second night here by 5 cops on a traffic stop late at night in a taxi right in Bocagrande. They scared the shit out of me and searched me for 15 minutes. Searched my wallet, shoes, pants, shirt, the whole 9 yards. They were so insistent in finding drugs on me. It is not safe to have ANY drugs while in the street atleast! They want to find things on tourists to scare you into paying them alot of money or throwing you in jail! The cops don't play here.

So far pretty good, just need to be very smart here unless you don't care about getting ripped off. Also people here are pretty friendly for the most part but you have to be smart and be on guard at all times.

I also went to a club called Al Oadras (spelling may be off) but it is a casa which is very popular with mainly locals and about 20-25minute drive from el laguito. Women here are beautiful! And they dance and strip full naked! I got one of the most beautiful 18 year old chicks I ever seen here. I spent around 100 mil for the chick and casa but again I did order some drinks here and ended up paying around 200+mil pesos for everything.

I went to LDV around my second night here and just drank some aguardiente and cervesa aguilar and scoped out the scene. Beautiful girls here as always with around 25 chicks. I got a good show and talked to many of the girls who I danced with. However I did not take any of the girls home. Most of the girls here 9-10's and I could not get down to less than 200mil pesos short time. However I did stay there when LDV closed and I think they will end up going for around 100mil pesos.

[QUOTE=Silent Monger; 1478645]Hi DcPlaneGuy,

Yes LDV (La Dolce Vita) is a bar located in a small shopping centre across the road from the Hotel Dann Cartagena in El Laguito. For years (long berore the Secret Service scandal) LDV has been a well known place where foreign tourists go to pick up a pro or semi-pro chica. LDV is not a casa and as such there are no 'sex on premise' facilities there. LDV is about the easiest place to find a chica to get laid in CTG although as many of the more experienced mongers on here can testify the prices can be much more expensive. When you pick up a chica in LDV she will go back to your apartment or hotel room. If your hotel is not chica friendly, or for work / professional reasons you don't want to be seen bringing ladies back to your room then there are other options.[/QUOTE]Hey man thanks alot, that is a great succinct explanation of the situation of here, should be sticky-ed or something.

Summary of my first three days

1st Night. Sunday.

Flew in from Bogota on a long ass international travel, and started feeling queasy so had a long nap. When I was up and about in the evening and decided to go to Casia Rocio. However the cab driver was a woman, so I felt uneasy to tell her where to go and the only thing that came to mind was Centro and then Cafe Del Mar. Get there have 2 whiskey-cokes, keep checking out a table with 2 hot babes and just before closing time at midnight they wave me over. One speaks English the other doesn't. (I've got like 2% Spanish, and that's from my basic French and common culture, so it has been a handicap so far.) Play dumb but figure they've got to be pros, they suggest going to TuCandelaBar, and that definitely seals it. We get there, I get a bottle and have fun with both of them, dancing etc. So at the end of the bottle the main girl suggests partying with both of them. I was staying at a hotel so had to go to a nearby love motel, and had a threesome. So pretty good! 300K for each and 88K for bottle and 70K for hotel.

Day 2-

Jetlagged and / or dehydrated. Chug Gatorades, evening is a pass.

Day 3.

Walked around the beach, pretty crap really, did get hollered by a Tony. Got hustled by some crab leg dudes.

In the evening tried to go to an actual Colombian restaurant at Centro, but since some of the roads are closed for pedestrian access, the taxi couldn't take me all the way. Walked around and ended up and found my first non-working hotties there. 2 waitresses.

After that got a cab to Casa Rosario (Rocio) but got strongly encouraged by the cab driver to go to Pleyclub insead. So this fits in with the presumption of them getting good commission there. Got there and got shown in by an english speaking worker. It was a weird set-up, several garden tables and chairs and a row of like 15 chairs with the hotties sitting on them. Didn't know the action plan there, now I know you were just supposed to go them and either invite to table / action room. After 2 beers I went up to the dude and he took me to the girls and told me to pick. I had my eyes on an Emilia Clarke (from Game of Thrones) but some dude was on her so had to pick someone else, picked a short girl with a butt that stuck out. She was alright but probably was a mistake. 200K ST.

After that went to my newly found apartment (thanks to the apartment thread) showered and went towards LDV around 12. Before I went in I spotted a cute faced meaty beauty, talked to her, brought her over. That was fun. 200K ST.

Had a late start for dinner etc but nothing in between, meaning that I was walking back home and it was 11:10pm so decided to go to LDV and actually see the inside of it, and boy is it a strange place, but interesting.

Had a drink and then starting speaking to one short skinny girl dancing next to me, had some kinda English. Had a few more drinks, and agreed to leave for 400K for 4 hours but then she also said all night, so the TLN is what I would like to do in this trip, and she got me there. She was a little too chatty and a little annoying, and some ridiculously hot girls had arrived, so started doubting it but went with her anyway, figure some anger fuck would be nice. Got back home, danced, drank and fucked, it was really fun.

Then she wanted to snuggle and watch some shit on her phone, after a while I tried for round 2 and she was like no I'm tired and said something like even if it's for all night, guys can only fuck once, so that really confused me. I guess she taught I wanted the GFE experience!

I admit I'm young and dumb and naive, but all this in Colombia is new to me, so I figure live and learn. I live in Korea, so I figure my next trip is Phuket, to avoid some of this BS.

So my question, even if you get a girl all night, would I be able to do it however times I want? I mean it would probably be just twice but I would like the option. And what is the wording for this agreement, all night until breakfast / lunch?

Thanks

[QUOTE=DcPlaneGuy; 1479407]Hey man thanks alot, that is a great succinct explanation of the situation of here, should be sticky-ed or something.

Summary of my first three days

1st Night. Sunday.

Flew in from Bogota on a long ass international travel, and started feeling queasy so had a long nap. When I was up and about in the evening and decided to go to Casia Rocio. However the cab driver was a woman, so I felt uneasy to tell her where to go and the only thing that came to mind was Centro and then Cafe Del Mar. Get there have 2 whiskey-cokes, keep checking out a table with 2 hot babes and just before closing time at midnight they wave me over. One speaks English the other doesn't. (I've got like 2% Spanish, and that's from my basic French and common culture, so it has been a handicap so far.) Play dumb but figure they've got to be pros, they suggest going to TuCandelaBar, and that definitely seals it. We get there, I get a bottle and have fun with both of them, dancing etc. So at the end of the bottle the main girl suggests partying with both of them. I was staying at a hotel so had to go to a nearby love motel, and had a threesome. So pretty good! 300K for each and 88K for bottle and 70K for hotel...[/QUOTE]You paid 300mil pesos short time for each girl? Thats 600mil pesos altogether around $350 us dollars! For one fuky fuky thats a lot! This is why girls keep asking for a lot of money because they think they can get it from gringos. But that happens especially since your Spanish is limited to 2. TLN means Todas Las Noches (the whole night) and your supposed to be able to fuky fuky as much as you want the whole night bro not only one time! No exceptions. Pleyclub is the most expensive casa here but 200k ST isn't bad I think.

Late night 5:

All I took from this experience is to lose weight and try this threesome business again, and even then it'll probably never happen again. So good luck and all to you folk. I give up.

Apologies about previous post, one should not post at late night and while intoxicated. I was pissed off but more frustrated, of dealing with money grabbing working girls instead of cum guzzling working girls. I hadn't detailed too much of my first night threesome, which actually was one of the best nights of my life to avoid jinxing it, but it got jinxed anyway. So I tried to repeat the same feat last night, but they just screwed me over. Ah well, I'm going to have to be working overtime for the next few months anyway.

NIGHT 6 (Final Night in Cartagena):

Anyway I almost didn't go out but fought through it and went to Cafe Del Mar which had good civilian potential but the slight rain drove the people away. Decided to go to Isis Club (supposedly strip club) to see some boobies but apparently just like Rosario's (Rocio) House this place had a stripper pole but no dancing girls. Again just a place to drink with the working girls and take them home. Decided to skip it and go home, but on the way went to LDV and started just sitting at the benches. Sat a while to get individual girls but didn't happen, and even this one crazy old dude came by telling some preposterous stories, but surprisingly had decent English.

Decided I'd had enough listening to this guy and made a move on 2 girls sitting and chatting, sat with them, barely any English spoken, agreed on 150K each for ST and went home for a simple, easy threesome to cap my time here. I guess it helped that by this point I didn't care about anything happening.

So in summary, it was a decent trip, but it definitely helps to have Spanish here because you get hustled at every step.

[QUOTE=DcPlaneGuy; 1480200]Apologies about previous post, one should not post at late night and while intoxicated. I was pissed off but more frustrated, of dealing with money grabbing working girls instead of cum guzzling working girls. I hadn't detailed too much of my first night threesome, which actually was one of the best nights of my life to avoid jinxing it, but it got jinxed anyway. So I tried to repeat the same feat last night, but they just screwed me over. Ah well, I'm going to have to be working overtime for the next few months anyway.

NIGHT 6 (Final Night in Cartagena) :

Anyway I almost didn't go out but fought through it and went to Cafe Del Mar which had good civilian potential but the slight rain drove the people away. Decided to go to Isis Club (supposedly strip club) to see some boobies but apparently just like Rosario's (Rocio) House this place had a stripper pole but no dancing girls. Again just a place to drink with the working girls and take them home. Decided to skip it and go home, but on the way went to LDV and started just sitting at the benches. Sat a while to get individual girls but didn't happen, and even this one crazy old dude came by telling some preposterous stories, but surprisingly had decent English.

Decided I'd had enough listening to this guy and made a move on 2 girls sitting and chatting, sat with them, barely any English spoken, agreed on 150K each for ST and went home for a simple, easy threesome to cap my time here. I guess it helped that by this point I didn't care about anything happening.

So in summary, it was a decent trip, but it definitely helps to have Spanish here because you get hustled at every step.[/QUOTE]The old dude outside LDV with the stories: you met Nelson.

[quote=camaro1257; 1478072]i spent 7 days in cartagena in april and 5 days in cali in september, i have done a brief comparison of the 2 cities for your review:

currency:

the colombian peso cop fluctuates daily in comparison to us currency therefore there is no way to predict what the exchange rate will be in the future. in both cartagena and cali you will need to do commerce with cop, i recommend checking your bank exchange rate as well as considering atm fees for the amount of cop needed. you can also exchange us for cop at different locations on the ground in both cities the exchange rate varying from 1600cop-1 us to 1800-1us currently.

note: neither cartagena or cali is like sosua, dominican republic where you can have a level of trust of changing money on the street. under no circumstances would i change money on the street in either city.

lodging:

mirador laquito: (cartagena)

i had an excellent studio apartment for $60. 00 per night. the building is located in laquito. i didn't have a good view but i was more than satisfied for the price. there was a kitchen, dining bar, living room and decent size bedroom all in the same space. the internet was slow sometimes but overall it was pretty efficient. security was on point 24 hours a day. chicas had to sign in with cedula and the front door was always locked, you had to be buzzed in and out by security.

there was no room safe but the building did have a small pool available for the residents. the advantage to the mirador was the location was familiar to all the taxi drivers and there were atm's and restaurants close by within a 10 minute walk.

parceros townhouse: (cali)

the townhouse is located in barrio santa monica residencial which is a quiet neighborhood with several other townhouses on the street. the town house is on the 4th floor which is on the top floor of the building. there are 2 front balconies and 1 rear balcony all of which provide an excellent view. i enjoyed the breeze in the late evening. and there is no elevator so be prepared to exercise. the townhouse is a 2 story with a winding staircase and 2 bedrooms down stairs and 2 bedrooms upstairs. there is a kitchen living room and small den with a television. i was given a key to my room the townhouse and the main door downstairs. the master bedroom was $53. 00 per night which included breakfast. the wi-fi connection was excellent with great speed.

there is no doorman for security you are simply given keys to a double lock downstairs and a door key to the apartment and a separate door key to your room. there is no room safe and the building did not have a pool available for the residents. the advantage to parcero's townhouse is its location. you could do the majority of things you would like to do within a 15 minute radius.

neighborhoods:

laquito in cartagena. had more of a tourist feel with plenty of expensive hotels and restaurants. it was a mixed residential and tourist area with a plethora of apartment buildings. most everything you needed was within a 10 minute walking distance.

barrio santa monica residential in cali. was a very comfortable and safe residential neighborhood. barrio santa monica residential had more of a middleclass neighborhood feel with grocery stores, parks and a mall all within a 15 minute walking distance.

note: both areas were relatively safe and put me in the mind of recoleta, buenas aires, miraflores, lima and poblado, medellin. i walked around the areas during the day and well into the evening with no problems.

weather:

cartagena. the weather during my stay was generally hot and humid throughout since the city is at the mouth of the caribbean sea. it is not un-common to have 95 degree temperatures during the day and it cools down at night to about 75 degrees.

cali- the weather during my stay was quite pleasant, it was about 85 degrees during the day and 70 degrees at night. it was a dry heat with very little humidity so i didn't sweat that much. the early mornings and late evenings were very comfortable. the townhouse is situated at the foot of a hill so parcero would leave the windows open so we could get the breeze of the hill which was quite enjoyable.

transportation:

cartagena- walking was easy to most spots in laquito and boca grand which is the next neighborhood over. taxis to the old city were about $3. 00.

cali- walking was easy to most places in barrio santa monica residencial. all taxis have a meter that is set at the beginning of the trip, most of my trips were less than $3. 00. when i rode to the other side of town i spent around $13. 00. the buses are called mio and you have to buy a electronic debit card that is called a "gane" for $1. 50 and you recharge it at different locations throughout the city. each trip was. 85. the buses were modern clean and air-conditioned.

la comida:

cartagena. there were a variety according to taste but i enjoyed riquisimo's which was within walking distance of my apartment in laquito. the food was good but on the expensive side dishes for $20. 00 or more. there was something for everybody within walking distance. there are more than enough us fast food chains from mcdonalds to burger king because cartagena has more of a tourist flavor.

cali. if you are the type of person who travels to eat at burger king and kentucky fried chicken cali is not the place for you. cali provides an authentic latin american culinary experience. typical foods such as chicken, steak, beans & rice, soups and salads make the staple of the latin american diet. you can eat a hearty meal which includes soup, salad, meat, and 2 sides for between $3. 00. $7. 00 depending on the type of restaurant you are in.

casas de la citas cartagena.

i do not have the exact addresses of the below listed cartagena casas but if you give your taxista the name of the casa and the barrio he should be able to find it. some of these casa are called "the poor man's casas" and some as you can see not so much.

the pley club- location: barrio bosque:

the most expensive casa in cartagena apparently they pay a big tarifa to taxistas. the casa was dark and dingy inside with a bar dance floor and a few chairs. there were chicas sitting outside and a few inside. the average chica was about a 7, i was not impressed!

• 1 hour 300, 000cop ($158. 00)

los angeles. location: barrio brusseles:

this joint was scary as hell! security is there at the gate which is pad locked. security opens the gate and pad locks it behind you. you walk into a dark house where you can see little of anything what i could see of the chicas the average was a 6.

• 1 hour 150, 000cop ($79. 00)

chicas linda. barrio bomba del amparo:

chicas linda is next store to chicas rica. chicas linda is nice inside with a wide bar a dance floor and plenty of plastic white chairs to talk to the chicas. the club was well lighted and good for meeting the chicas. the average chica was about a 7. i swore i saw riahnna there she was soooooooooooo fyne it was ridiculous but she looked too mean!

• 30 minutes 100, 000cop ($53. 00)

empana. location :barrio los alpes:

it was very dark and there were about a half dozen women averaging about a 7 most of them looked board.

• 30 minutes 150, 000cop ($79. 00)

allondra- barrio los alpes:

this joint was off dah chain! there were so many fyne chicas in there is was ridiculous! the average chica was an 8 like real model types about a dozen were working.

• 30 minutes 70, 000cop. ($37. 00)

chicas rica- barrio bomba del amparo:

• 30 minutes 40, 000cop ($21. 00)

casas de la citas-cali.

cali has more casas than you can count and while there are some high end casas there are some excellent tarifas with chicas that rate 7-8 in many of them.

las calenas 2: cra 44 #5b. 79b tequndama.

i saw approximately a half dozen chicas which ranged from 6-8. most of them were glued to their cell phones which were plugged in the wall charging. i was turned off by their in-attentiveness.

• 1 hour: 90, 000cop ($47. 00)

nuts & bolts (tuercas why tornillos) : calle 17n #5n. 33.

i went to nuts & bolts which is behind a big metal non descript door. you press the button and security opens the door has you face the camera and pats you down. then you stand in the center of the hallway and a chica comes out and pats you down again this time checking your package. about 7 chicas came out none of them were less than a 7 and a couple were pushing 9. the set up here was totally different from calena 2 in that there was no music playing or bar where guys could sit around and talk. you pick the chica you want do the deed then hasta luego. before i left my chica said she had to call down stairs and i spoke with the mamasan who asked me how was my service and i said "esta bien" even though it was average. parcero later told me that nuts & bolts is one of the strictest casas in cali.

• 1 hour 65000cop ($34. 00)

jc: avenida segunda b norte 34n 55.

the walls were white brick and there were plastic chairs with a small wall fan in the seating area. the chicas presented themselves and all of 5 of them ranged from 7-8 i was impressed with the line up from such a crappy place but they weren't the friendliest group.

• 1 hour 100000cop ($52. 00)

kaliente calle: 25 norte #2 bis-47.

kaliente wasn't too caliente you walk into a non descript house sit down in the living room and 3 chicas came out and introduced themselves. the chicas ranged between 5-6 and none were very inviting. the increments are as follows:

• 1 hour 100000cop ($52. 00)

the mediterranean spa: calle 28 norte #4n-72.

this casa had a very nice atmosphere that looked like a spa with comfortable chairs and beautiful pictures of models on the walls. there were 4 chicas who introduced themselves. the chicas ranged between 5-6 and all seemed to be very pleasant and inviting.

• 1 hour 80000cop ($42. 00)

the deluxe club: calle 5 #65-25.

this casa was very nice inside set up like a club with chairs a dance floor and stripper pole. there were 6 chicas that introduced themselves. most were 6's but there was one that looked like a model who fell out of a magazine she was a 9. this joint was plastic surgery central and some of the women looked like they were ready to explode. the tarifas here were ridiculous in comparison to the other cali casa and not worth the expense imho.

• 1 hour 250-350cop ($131. 00- $184. 00)

la clinica dr amor: avenida 2n no 23n-23.

this casa was nice inside but it was obvious they were doing some renovations with unfinished paint on the walls. normally they pat you down but since i was with parcero i just got waived through. there is a big living room with several couches and you can be seated and wait for the chicas to come out and introduce themselves. i would rate most of the chicas between 7-8. there were about a dozen chicas present and maybe 1 or 2 were 9's. the tarifas are based on 3 different levels classic, vip and platinum and the chicas wear bands to indicate their status.

• 1 hour 90000cop ($47. 00)

la picina: next door to jc at avenida segunda b norte 34n 55.

although the talent pool fluctuates this was my favorite casa in cali because of the ambiance. the chicas hang outside and greet you as you walk in. there is a waiting area and a pool area where you sit and wait for the chicas to come out and introduce themselves. everyone i saw was decent ranging from 7-9 and they all seemed to be very pleasant. some casa girls it is obvious they don't want to be there but these girls had a very pleasant disposition.

• 1 hour 80000cop ($42. 00)

note: always remember that the casa business is a fluid in colombia, casas open and close frequently and the talent pool varies from one day to the next. one day a specific casa may be a gold mine and the next day it may be a salt mine. most casas have take out where you pay a fine and negotiate separately with the chica her tarifa.

other sex venues:

the only sex venues i visited in cali were the casas but in cartagena the sex venues for freelancers are more diverse for example:

la playa:

there are chulos on the beach that can get chicas for you expect to pay a minimum 150, 000 cop for this service and the chicas can range from 5-9 depending on the day of the week. many of the chicas that you see alone or in groups are available a little eye to eye contact and body language should be sufficient to let you know if you should move forward. you can keep your cost less between 100, 000. 150, 000 cop if she insist on more you have met a shark on the beach.

the old city at the clock tower:

activity starts at dark with chicas that range between 5-8. be careful because you will find transvestites and homosexuals in the same area. i wouldn't pay more than 100, 000 cop for any of the chicas in this area regardless as to how beautiful she was.

la dolce vida (ldv) :

the most popular freelance bar in cartagena and for that reason it is plastic surgery central, some of the chicas look like if you stick them with a pin they would pop. in addition you are likely to see the best colombia has to offer because colombianas come from all over the country to work this venue. tarifas range from 150, 000cop- 350, 000cop. personally i wouldn't pay any more than 200, 000cop regardless as to how beautiful she was. it has been reported that ldv had an 80, 000cop drink minimum which can be avoided simply by getting the chicas number and meeting her later.

electrika in the old city:

is a hole in the wall small after hours joint in cartagena that some chicas go to after ldv closes. the tarifas can range from 150, 000cp- 350, 000cop. you have leverage in this venue because it is at the end of the night and if a chica hasn't worked she is more open to negotiation i would stay between 150 – 200, 000cop. there is also a 80, 000cop drink minimum here that can be avoided by meeting the chica outside separately. if you leave with a chica you will be stopped and asked to any up.

la polica & danger:

always carry a copy of your passport with you because there is a police presence everywhere especially at night. there is no such thing as reasonable articulable suspicion or probable cause in colombia, be prepared!

cartagena. is a the primary tourist destination in colombia and for this reason it has a great police presence. there is a police station in the middle of laquito and road blocks abound especially at night. it is not uncommon to be stopped at a road block or by la policia riding motorcycles and be patted down. if i were you i would avoid party favors it could save you allot of grief. if you are stopped by the la policia you may notice an uncomfortable pause, this is the time were there may be an implicit expectation of a "multa." whether you pay this "multa" or not will depend on what you have been stopped for. if you have done nothing you can simply say "lo siento senor mil disculpes" or just speak in english. be wary of pushy street vendors who wave t-shirts and other objects in your face if you don't want it don't touch it! a simple "estoy bien" or "no gracias" will do.

cali- is not a tourist town so the law enforcement emphasis is different. i noticed just as many la policia en cali as in cartagena but they seemed to be more polite imho. there is a police station in the center of barrio santa monica residential and while police vehicles abound throughout the city i noticed no road blocks during my stay. it not uncommon for the la polica to drive around at night with their red lights flashing therefore most times there will be no reason for alarm.

note:

it might sound obvious, but don't walk around flashing expensive cameras, jewelry, wads of money etc. places like beaches, outside banks and the area around the clock tower are favored pickpocket haunts.

the biggest concern that many people would have with cali is the reputation it shared with medellin in the 1980's-90's with the medellin- cali drug cartels. pablo escobar is dead and although the drug trade is still alive in colombia the government has made significant strides combating the problem. even the problems the government was having with guerillas and para-militaries in the country side has seriously been abated. it is not that there is no threat in colombia it's that the threat is minimal and not a significant reason not to travel to this beautiful country. cali is no utopia by any stretch of the imagination however it is possible to do well with the right strategy.

chicas:

the subject of the most beautiful women in the world can be debated into eternity but i prefer colombianas because of their ethnic diversity. both cities have their share of people of european, indian and african decent which makes for an incredible mix. colombians are truly a hybrid group of people.

observations:

• cali was different from cartagena because it is not a tourist town it lacked a beach and in general everything was less expensive. if there was a gringo tax it was hidden unlike cartagena where it is obvious you are getting gouged.

• you do not need fluent spanish in cali but it would be advisable to have basic spanish if you should decide to visit as there are not as many english speakers as in cartagena.

• since cartagena is a tourist city you will have to deal with touts. touts are people who are trying to get you to buy something from souvenirs to directing you to a casa de cita. touts are annoying as hell and you can simply respond by saying "no gracias."

• cartagena and cali have more casa de citas than you can count. in addition they open and close regularly and have varying ebb and flows throughout the course of the week with the weekends being the busiest time. i sense that the facebook, freelance and civilian chica market is very fertile here for a person who has the time to invest.

conclusion:

i have a personal fondness for cartagena because it was the first city i visited in colombia and i made acquaintances there, so i have ties to the city. in addition the old city at night in my opinion is one of the most beautiful cities in the western hemisphere. however, if i had to make a choice between the 2 cities i would choose cali for the below listed reasons:

• weather, cartagena is uncomfortably hot and humid and cali is hot during the day but absolutely beautiful at night except during the rainy season.

• the gringo tax, almost everything in cartagena is more expensive if you are a gringo. unless you have an inside connection be prepared to pay more. the chicas come from all over colombia for one reason and one reason alone "to get paid!" the same chica you get in cartagena can likely be had in her home town for half the price with a better attitude.

• although cali was a big city i found most of the people i met to be more than hospitable, more so than cartagena.

as in all things ymmv i encourage you to visit both cities and make an assessment for yourselves.[/quote]great find with allondra. i would like to nominate this as a report of distinction

Would someone please find the exact location and the rest of the info for these places?

[i][b]Barrio Los Alpes[/i][/b]-North of [b][I]Bomba Esso, El Amparo[/b][/i]

1. Allondra, ____. __ Chicas. Prices: 70k 30 min. Tel: ___. Hours: ____.

2. Empana, _____. 6+ Chicas. Prices: 150k 30 min. Tel: ___. Hours: ____.

This one also:

[b][i]Location ?[/b][/i]

1. Club Al Oadras, _____. __ Chicas. Prices: 200k 30 min. Tel: ____. Hours: _____.


[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt;1481046]Great find with allondra. I would like to nominate this as a report of distinction[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GucciJayda;1479676]You paid 300mil pesos short time for each girl? Thats 600mil pesos altogether around $350 us dollars! For one fuky fuky thats a lot! This is why girls keep asking for a lot of money because they think they can get it from gringos. But that happens especially since your Spanish is limited to 2. TLN means Todas Las Noches (the whole night) and your supposed to be able to fuky fuky as much as you want the whole night bro not only one time! No exceptions. Pleyclub is the most expensive casa here but 200k ST isn't bad I think.[/QUOTE]That's true its really expensive and besides there are plenty of girls right there with cheap prices but quality performance. These girls take advantage on tourists.

[QUOTE=DcPlaneGuy; 1479412]Then she wanted to snuggle and watch some shit on her phone, after a while I tried for round 2 and she was like no I'm tired and said something like even if it's for all night, guys can only fuck once, so that really confused me. I guess she taught I wanted the GFE experience!

I admit I'm young and dumb and naive, but all this in Colombia is new to me, so I figure live and learn. I live in Korea, so I figure my next trip is Phuket, to avoid some of this BS.

So my question, even if you get a girl all night, would I be able to do it however times I want? I mean it would probably be just twice but I would like the option. And what is the wording for this agreement, all night until breakfast / lunch?

Thanks[/QUOTE]That girl was wrong wrong wrong, and she would have tried that shit with anybody it wasn't just because you, or because she thought you were dumb or naive the second she said no, I would have offered her 150 mil and asked her to leave, or stay and have sex all night for the price agreed, or offered the 150 mil and told her I was going to Electra to find a real woman. She agreed to all night then she agreed to sex all night. It is hard to know what is right and what is not right, and you should agree on even the details before you agree to go with the girl just because these individual women will try this shit!

You mentioned Phuket, which is great, YOU WILL LOVE IT, I was in Patong Beach, Bangla Road (Heaven on Earth but the chics with nice tits are hard to find) , and I had sort of a bad experience with a girl, she was soooo fucking gorgeous and had a body more like a colombiana than a thai, but first she had to eat, so I took her someplace to eat, that when we got to my apartment she wanted to play on facebook for an hour to "catch up" becuase she didn't own a computer, and than of course all Thais shower before and after sex, which is fine of course, but from the time I picked this little honey up from Bangal Road, and got to see her naked was like two and half hours, the upside was that she did stay all night, and I hit it in the morning. The only down side to me about Thailand is that i do not like the ultra skinny woman with the small breast thing, but there are some exceptions, I found a few. The prices and variety are outrageously better than Cartagena. But I love Cartagena and live a 20 hour $2000 dollar plane ride from Thailand.

[QUOTE=GucciJayda;1479676]. especially since your Spanish is limited to 2. TLN means Todas Las Noches (the whole night) .[/QUOTE]Well almost, TLN means 'Toda la noche' (kill the s's) LOL, otherwise you'd be referring to every night.

Have fun!

Hi Guys,

Off to Cartagena and Medellin for the first time next year (July) and am curious as to how this is policed? I assume they just charge you 100k on entry to LDV then?

What percentage of girls speak English in places like LDV would you say?

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=DcPlaneGuy; 1479407]Get there have 2 whiskey-cokes, keep checking out a table with 2 hot babes and just before closing time at midnight they wave me over. One speaks English the other doesn't. (I've got like 2% Spanish, and that's from my basic French and common culture, so it has been a handicap so far.) Play dumb but figure they've got to be pros, they suggest going to TuCandelaBar, and that definitely seals it. We get there, I get a bottle and have fun with both of them, dancing etc. So at the end of the bottle the main girl suggests partying with both of them. I was staying at a hotel so had to go to a nearby love motel, and had a threesome. So pretty good! 300K for each and 88K for bottle and 70K for hotel.

D.[/QUOTE]I notices that some mongers were giving you a hard time about paying the two Hot Babes from Cafe Del Mar 300K each, I would put this into perspective. How many guys do you know personally that have had a threesome with two Hot Colombian Babes.

For us guys who make regular (or for me. Semi regular) trips to monger, price is important because you need to get the most for your money, and yes some complain because when guys do not know better or do hot care how much they spend, it sets a precedence for girls to ask for more money, but in your case if you put it in perspective, you had a great experience for your money.

[QUOTE=Gringo147; 1483448]Hi Guys,

Off to Cartagena and Medellin for the first time next year (July) and am curious as to how this is policed? I assume they just charge you 100k on entry to LDV then?

What percentage of girls speak English in places like LDV would you say?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]No entry fee to enter LDV. They will monitor your bill for drinks.

English speakers are very slim and none.

Suggestion if you do not speak spanish is for you to change your destination, or go to directly to Medellin and stay at the Gringo house. (Medellin Plaza or El Castillo)

[QUOTE=GucciJayda; 1478914]Beautiful woman as always and street walker prepagos easy to find in laguito or bocagrande in the night and day (many of them very beautiful and many not so beautiful).

A lot of street prepagos ask for around 200mil pesos for ST but I am able to haggle down considerably. I do not like using touts because I always end up spending a considerable amount more.

I think its very hard to get a girl without a tout in playa de Hollywood because there are so many touts everywhere and they act like all the girls are theirs. I went to plaza de las coches twice and found some ok / decent girls there for around 100mil pesos short time negotiated of course.

Careful about buying drogas here! I got searched my second night here by 5 cops on a traffic stop late at night in a taxi right in Bocagrande. They scared the shit out of me and searched me for 15 minutes. Searched my wallet, shoes, pants, shirt, the whole 9 yards. They were so insistent in finding drugs on me. It is not safe to have ANY drugs while in the street atleast! They want to find things on tourists to scare you into paying them alot of money or throwing you in jail! The cops don't play here.[/QUOTE]What is the Rain situation been like your you? Does it rain all day? Does it rain every day? Does it rain part of the day?

Where are you finding the street chicas in El Laguito and Bocagrande?

[QUOTE=DcPlaneGuy; 1479412]Had a late start for dinner etc but nothing in between, meaning that I was walking back home and it was 11:10pm so decided to go to LDV and actually see the inside of it, and boy is it a strange place, but interesting.

Had a drink and then starting speaking to one short skinny girl dancing next to me, had some kinda English. Had a few more drinks, and agreed to leave for 400K for 4 hours but then she also said all night, so the TLN is what I would like to do in this trip, and she got me there. She was a little too chatty and a little annoying, and some ridiculously hot girls had arrived, so started doubting it but went with her anyway, figure some anger fuck would be nice. Got back home, danced, drank and fucked, it was really fun.

Then she wanted to snuggle and watch some shit on her phone, after a while I tried for round 2 and she was like no I'm tired and said something like even if it's for all night, guys can only fuck once, so that really confused me. I guess she taught I wanted the GFE experience!

I admit I'm young and dumb and naive, but all this in Colombia is new to me, so I figure live and learn. I live in Korea, so I figure my next trip is Phuket, to avoid some of this BS.

So my question, even if you get a girl all night, would I be able to do it however times I want? I mean it would probably be just twice but I would like the option. And what is the wording for this agreement, all night until breakfast / lunch?

Thanks[/QUOTE]You need to be crystal clear what you expect. Until what time? How many pops? Additionals like kissing, BBBJ, etc.

[QUOTE=Ricardo Torres; 1483455]No entry fee to enter LDV. They will monitor your bill for drinks.

English speakers are very slim and none.

Suggestion if you do not speak spanish is for you to change your destination, or go to directly to Medellin and stay at the Gringo house. (Medellin Plaza or El Castillo) [/QUOTE]There are many English speaking chicas in LDV. My friends came to Cartagena with zero Spanish and they all found English speaking ones and had a great time.

Was in Cartagena two weeks ago. One of the touts outside Tu Candela said Elektra was closed. A couple of chicas confirmed that it was closed again a couple of weeks before. What is up with this place?

[QUOTE=Ricardo Torres; 1483455]No entry fee to enter LDV. They will monitor your bill for drinks.

English speakers are very slim and none.

Suggestion if you do not speak spanish is for you to change your destination, or go to directly to Medellin and stay at the Gringo house. (Medellin Plaza or El Castillo) [/QUOTE]Ok, so what if you've only had 30k worth of drinks and want to leave. What happens?

Is it 100k per person if there are 3 of us?

We're definitely going to Cartagena, so I guess we'll have to learn basic spanish. Shouldn't be too difficult with 9 months to go. We went to Fortaleza without any Portuguese, so I guess it will be fine. There's only so much you can say before you ride her silly anyway.

We head to Medellin for 5 days, after 5 days in Cartegena.

[QUOTE=Hioctane;1483498]There are many English speaking chicas in LDV. My friends came to Cartagena with zero Spanish and they all found English speaking ones and had a great time.[/QUOTE]Thanks Hioctane. Always wanted to learn Spanish anyway, so I'll give it a shot.

[QUOTE=Hioctane;1483498]There are many English speaking chicas in LDV. My friends came to Cartagena with zero Spanish and they all found English speaking ones and had a great time.[/QUOTE]I have been to Cartagena so many times I have lost count, as I was doing business there at one point, and I can tell you on no uncertain terms the post by Hioctane is bullshit. It irritates the hell out of me when people post false information. Starting to think Hioctane reads the ISG and then makes up his post. I am saying this based on a post he made on the Santa Marta thread a couple of weeks ago, and now this post on english speaking Colombianas in Cartagena. His trips are illusions.

[QUOTE=Ricardo Torres; 1483600]Quit posting inaccurate information.

Your friends must have been fantasy friends to find that.

I have been to Cartagena so many times I have lost count, as I was doing business there at one point, and I can tell you on no uncertain terms the post by Hioctane is bullshit. It irritates the hell out of me when people post false information. Starting to think Hioctane reads the ISG and then makes up his post. I am saying this based on a post he made on the Santa Marta thread a couple of weeks ago, and now this post on english speaking Colombianas in Cartagena. His trips are illusions.[/QUOTE]I agree I am new to ISG but have been going to Cartagena since 2006 4 trips a year. Not many girls at LDV speak English some a word or two. I have only ran across very few that speak good English. I would say you need some basic Spanish skills but the more Spanish you learn the better trip you will have. Don't thik you are going to a resort area that will have English speaking staff to help you. Not the case.

Sorry to repeat, but I fear it got lost in the little spat below.

Regarding drinks in LDV.

Ok, so what if you've only had 30k worth of drinks and want to leave. What happens?

Is it 100k per person if there are 3 of us?

[QUOTE=Gringo147; 1483793]Sorry to repeat, but I fear it got lost in the little spat below.

Regarding drinks in LDV.

Ok, so what if you've only had 30k worth of drinks and want to leave. What happens?

Is it 100k per person if there are 3 of us?[/QUOTE]No spat whatsoever.

I just do not want you getting incorrect information, as very very veryyyy few girls in Colombia speak english, and those that do only know a few words for the most part.

You are not obligated to purchase any drinks in LDV if you do not want to. The policy is if you decide to actually take a girl out of LDV you have to show at least a 100, 000 peso bar bill. If you and your two friends take 3 girls out, you will have to have a bar bill of 300, 000 pesos, unless things changed from my last visit, which was very recent. The girl can leave LDV at any time, and you can then meet her moments later outside of LDV if you so choose, you just cannot physically leave with her at the same time.

I might add, I hope you and your friends have deep pockets, because if you like to party in the bars/discos, Cartagena is very expensive, not to mention the girls asking for 200,000 to 400,000 pesos and getting it. You are at a very big disadvantage not being able to speak Spanish. Might want to consider a place like the Sosua in the Dominican Republic, or Costa Rica, where there are more English speakers. You might also consider Medellin which in my opinion has the most beautiful girls in all of Colombia along with Cali. There is much more information here on the board about Medellin than any other place. The Medellin Plaza, and the bar La Cueva sounds like it would be a perfect situation for you and your friends, and Medellin is much cheaper. If I was in your shoes I would just spend all my time in Medellin. There are several day trips you can take from Medellin that will break up your time there since you would be there for 10 days.

[QUOTE=Ricardo Torres; 1483600]Quit posting inaccurate information.

Your friends must have been fantasy friends to find that.

I have been to Cartagena so many times I have lost count, as I was doing business there at one point, and I can tell you on no uncertain terms the post by Hioctane is bullshit. It irritates the hell out of me when people post false information. Starting to think Hioctane reads the ISG and then makes up his post. I am saying this based on a post he made on the Santa Marta thread a couple of weeks ago, and now this post on english speaking Colombianas in Cartagena. His trips are illusions.[/QUOTE]Tell me what I said about Santa Marta that wasn't accurate?

You speak Spanish so you don't know but try to pretend that you don't speak a lick of Spanish and all of a sudden these Colombiana's know enough English to close a sale. I'm not saying that a lot know fluent English, but you'll find a few. You'd be surprised at how many know Hebrew. Hanging out with so many gringos, many LDV chicas have picked up some English.

[QUOTE=Hilltopper;1480943]The old dude outside LDV with the stories: you met Nelson.[/QUOTE]So I'm back home from my hectic fortnight in Colombia.

Haha good to know!

[QUOTE=Mojo Bandit; 1483144]That girl was wrong wrong wrong, and she would have tried that shit with anybody it wasn't just because you, or because she thought you were dumb or naive the second she said no, I would have offered her 150 mil and asked her to leave, or stay and have sex all night for the price agreed, or offered the 150 mil and told her I was going to Electra to find a real woman. She agreed to all night then she agreed to sex all night. It is hard to know what is right and what is not right, and you should agree on even the details before you agree to go with the girl just because these individual women will try this shit!

You mentioned Phuket, which is great, YOU WILL LOVE IT, I was in Patong Beach, Bangla Road (Heaven on Earth but the chics with nice tits are hard to find) , and I had sort of a bad experience with a girl, she was soooo fucking gorgeous and had a body more like a colombiana than a thai, but first she had to eat, so I took her someplace to eat, that when we got to my apartment she wanted to play on facebook for an hour to "catch up" becuase she didn't own a computer, and than of course all Thais shower before and after sex, which is fine of course, but from the time I picked this little honey up from Bangal Road, and got to see her naked was like two and half hours, the upside was that she did stay all night, and I hit it in the morning. The only down side to me about Thailand is that I do not like the ultra skinny woman with the small breast thing, but there are some exceptions, I found a few. The prices and variety are outrageously better than Cartagena. But I love Cartagena and live a 20 hour $2000 dollar plane ride from Thailand.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Hioctane;1483497]You need to be crystal clear what you expect. Until what time? How many pops? Additionals like kissing, BBBJ, etc.[/QUOTE]I think this is key, to agree to all the fine print (!) before any action happens.

Yeah Phuket, I live close to there but I still need several months to recover physically, emotionally, financially.

[QUOTE=Mojo Bandit; 1483449]I notices that some mongers were giving you a hard time about paying the two Hot Babes from Cafe Del Mar 300K each, I would put this into perspective. How many guys do you know personally that have had a threesome with two Hot Colombian Babes.

For us guys who make regular (or for me. Semi regular) trips to monger, price is important because you need to get the most for your money, and yes some complain because when guys do not know better or do hot care how much they spend, it sets a precedence for girls to ask for more money, but in your case if you put it in perspective, you had a great experience for your money.[/QUOTE]Yeah it was first of such mongering trips for me, so it was a good experience. That threesome on my first night was one of the best nights of my life but I hadn't given too much details because I was planning on repeating the same deal a few days later, but to no avail as I kinda got hustled again. I realise I might cause an inflation of prices for other guys, so apologies.

- About the girls with English knowledge:

You would probably need a girl to speak English to hang out and have few drinks at a place like LDV and somehow I did find 3 girls that did speak English in 1 week, but that might have been lucky. The alternative is what I did on my final night, sit outside LDV for a while and go to a girl, say hello, sit down with her at the bench, ask price and off you go. In my case it was 2 girls again, they guessed some English words, I guessed some Spanish words, had some silly laughs, wham bam thank you ma'am.

[QUOTE=Hioctane;1483500]Was in Cartagena two weeks ago. One of the touts outside Tu Candela said Elektra was closed. A couple of chicas confirmed that it was closed again a couple of weeks before. What is up with this place?[/QUOTE]OMG! .

Elektra is my favourite place. I cannot imagine going to CTG without having Elektra. All my best girls came from Elektra after 3am!

Any kind soul on place can confirm or negate that Elektra is again closed? And why?

Damn spoiled tourists stop being dumb and not being a business man when it comes to pricing for the prepagos / escorts. Your one of the few reasons girls are asking for 200-400 mil pesos for short time.

Anyone in town this week for the holiday and beauty pageant? A few people have already PMed me. I'm looking forward to a week of excitement and beautiful looking chicas.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1491773]Anyone in town this week for the holiday and beauty pageant? A few people have already PMed me. I'm looking forward to a week of excitement and beautiful looking chicas.[/QUOTE]Hey dude, I am here. Had various girlfriend issues so I am solo in a very nice hotel. Pm me if you want to check out some action one of these nights. She might come up later in the week but I think it looks more like next week in santa marta. So when the cat is away.

I have been here since Saturday and I think I am going to leave early (had planned to stay a whole week).

In the Centro Chicas Lindas, Cacique or whatever and that third club seem to be under-covered here. Not bad. Corronchas was kind of dead and I think the prices have gone up or at least the girls are asking more.

Angeles Club and Rocio there was one girl that caught my attention in each place. Both I thought had somewhat pleasant but boring and business like attitudes. Prices seem fairly in both places with some room to wiggle for TLN. They want to do everything in a way that is boring, covered, etc. Even oral sex with a condom in a place where they are charging a fairly heavy price.

Street action seemed just OK. I didn't go to LDV. There is such limited action in the day time here, I knew that, but it stood out on this trip. I did link up with one of my old favorites for a two-day, one night marathon session. Other than that, I was mostly hot and bored here. I did stay in a very nice hotel but looking at the rack rate (about $300 a night!) I wouldn't have paid it if not for the sweet deal I got.

Overall, Cartagena is a fine place to take a girl but I think an increasingly shitty destination for mongering. The girls are not very willing to hustle a buck with deals, extras, etc. Lots of foreigners forking over big bucks, which I think is a very overstated problem in other parts of the country. Same girl that went with me TLN plus all day after had some Brazilian dude come in and pay 2,000,000 pesos to have her for two days, almost the exact same amount of time she went with me for 300,000. Staggering.

The chicas come from all over but I don't think them to be on average any better looking than the locals in Medellin, Cali, Armenia, etc. Some cabby was telling me Monteria is a good destination for mongering. Having passed through there once, I sort of have my doubts.

It's an epidemic everywhere. Lot's of newly minted platinum AMEX latinos who are willing to rack up the miles. We just became 2nd class!

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt; 1495846]Overall, Cartagena is a fine place to take a girl but I think an increasingly shitty destination for mongering. The girls are not very willing to hustle a buck with deals, extras, etc. Lots of foreigners forking over big bucks, which I think is a very overstated problem in other parts of the country. Same girl that went with me TLN plus all day after had some Brazilian dude come in and pay 2, 000, 000 pesos to have her for two days, almost the exact same amount of time she went with me for 300, 000. Staggering.

The chicas come from all over but I don't think them to be on average any better looking than the locals in Medellin, Cali, Armenia, etc. Some cabby was telling me Monteria is a good destination for mongering. Having passed through there once, I sort of have my doubts.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt;1494316]Hey dude, I am here.[/QUOTE]Damn, sorry I missed you. I was so busy that I didn't have a chance to check this site or even hook up with others that told me they would be in town. Hopefully, next time. Here are a few images from my trip: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDXWiOPQwHs[/url]

Nice little mashup, Orgasmico! Looks like you had a lot more fun than I did.

I have noticed more street action in many places, but it's almost a drag. The little prepagos invade the old city at night. I took a friend out to dinner and she brought her uncle and aunt, who are formal old people in their 70s. A pair of middle school aged prostitutes were flashing the old man and trying to get him to give them a go. This is how my mom described Haiti in the 70s, only with even younger girls flashing their pussy to any man who stepped off the boat.

Overall I found Cartagena to be a hot, sticky mess. I have been several times previously, but always brought my sand to the beach. There are some good eating options and some nice albeit overpriced hotels. Worth it for a romantic trip but I was not into the scene there.

Guys, do not stay at the "Centro Hotel". They didn't allow me bring a girl at night.

Hey guys,

It doesn't seem like much is happening here on the board lately. Ctg usually picks up at around the beauty pagent / holiday, maybe it has, but people aren't reporting about it. Anyways, I'm headed down for my 7th trip on Wed. 27th. I love the vibe of this town, I know some of the reports lately haven't been too flattering, but for me I find the trips just keep getting better. I hope that continues! My usual routine is to hang out on the beach during the day, fiesta with friend / s late afternoon. Dinner, nap (hopefully!). And then LDV or the regular clubs in centro at night. Glad to have a beer with anyone looking to have fun.

Travel Doc10

i was just there and shared my thoughts. the street action in the centro is plentiful but getting kind of shameful lol. tons of **** girls with no tact at all, i think i mentioned the 14-year-olds coming onto a 75 year old guy with his elderly wife and other relatives lol.

the casas and bars are getting overrun by people paying huge price for whatever service. i found the attitudes at places like rocio and angeles to be more businesslike and boring than ever. if not for an old favorite, i would really not have been enticed by anything.

that said, there is loads of action to be had and some of it has to be good. be patient, be thorough and enjoy.

[QUOTE=Travel Doc10; 1500022]Hey guys,

I love the vibe of this town, I know some of the reports lately haven't been too flattering, but for me I find the trips just keep getting better.[/QUOTE]I had a great time earlier this month. I ran into a lot of daytime and night time action. I'll probably be back next year.

Coming to Cartagena after Medellin and need the guide who can help to make contacts with the girls. I am not interested in casas, interested mostly in semi or non. I don't know Spanish well. And the guide can prepare the list of girls before my coming. We will set up a reward for every girl. It's very important for me to find a responsible and a good guide. Just give their email or phone numbers to speak. I have checked Cartagena list of guide but nobody replied to my phone calls.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1500160]I had a great time earlier this month. I ran into a lot of daytime and night time action. I'll probably be back next year.[/QUOTE]Has anybody heard or seen Martin, Motorcycle rider, has some rental's in il'lageto, been calling and e- mailing him with no response? Its been like a month, it's not like him! Just wondering.

[QUOTE=RacShack;1503468]Has anybody heard or seen Martin, Motorcycle rider, has some rental's in il'lageto, been calling and e- mailing him with no response? Its been like a month, it's not like him! Just wondering.[/QUOTE]He is here (Cartagena) now, saw the ol fellar yesterday

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1500160]I had a great time earlier this month. I ran into a lot of daytime and night time action. I'll probably be back next year.[/QUOTE]How much did you pay? What are the options?

[QUOTE=MikeReal;1503465]Coming to Cartagena after Medellin and need the guide who can help to make contacts with the girls. I am not interested in casas, interested mostly in semi or non. I don't know Spanish well. And the guide can prepare the list of girls before my coming. We will set up a reward for every girl. It's very important for me to find a responsible and a good guide. Just give their email or phone numbers to speak. I have checked Cartagena list of guide but nobody replied to my phone calls.[/QUOTE]Get ready to get hustled! I wouldn't trust anyone you meet randomly to set you up and fluid communication will be key even in legit interactions. I think your best bet is the casas and you can make arrangements with the girls there to come to you in the day or night. The ones in the Centro get going late, Bruselas and all that during the day / early evening.

My first post. Spend a few days in Cartagena. Visited LDV and their were plenty of girls. Mostly 6 and 7s. With a few 8s. I took out a couple of girls that I liked. One of them looked and said she was a Paisa. Very pretty face with a nice body. Paid her 150,000. 00. She wasn't the best. Wanted to give me a Covered BJ but I insisted without one and she agreed. Very nice girl but not the best in bed. The other girl I took was a tall, blond I believe her name was Daniela. She was a lot better in bed. We agreed on 200,000. 00. The extra 50 was worth it. Spend a couple of days at beach. The girls were out tanning. Plenty of girls all over.

The weather was great. Overall a good 3 day trip. Some of the girls at LDV wanted some crazy money. They start at 500,000. 00 to 600,000. 00 but when you smile and tell them."too high" they smile back and say well we can negotiate. LOL.

[QUOTE=LocoGringo;1503974]He is here (Cartagena) now, saw the ol fellar yesterday[/QUOTE]Please tell hi to call his friend Jerry, he's not answering his phone or emails.

Thanks

Hello.

I am finally getting back to CTG next week. Any kind sould would tell me if Elektra is open or sadly closed? If closed, any alternative pub after 3am?

Thank you!

[QUOTE=Black Page; 1505888]Hello.

I am finally getting back to CTG next week. Any kind sould would tell me if Elektra is open or sadly closed? If closed, any alternative pub after 3am?

Thank you![/QUOTE]FWIW: Was told last week that Electra was closed and would "possibly" re-open in January. When I made inquiry about where I could find a similar bar that the working girls went to after 3 a. M, they indicated that there wasn't one at the moment..

[QUOTE=MikeReal;1503465]Coming to Cartagena after Medellin and need the guide who can help to make contacts with the girls. I am not interested in casas, interested mostly in semi or non. I don't know Spanish well. And the guide can prepare the list of girls before my coming. We will set up a reward for every girl. It's very important for me to find a responsible and a good guide. Just give their email or phone numbers to speak. I have checked Cartagena list of guide but nobody replied to my phone calls.[/QUOTE]

I don't want to come across the wrong way, but IMHO the idea of preparing a list of girls before your arrival is incompatible with not only the culture and mindset in Cartagena, but setting yourself up for disappointment. In addition to being on the Carribean Coast of Colombia, these will be 18 to 24 year old Colombianas who do not know what they are going to do this afternoon, and if they do, that's subject to change on a whimsical notion.

When going to CTG to meet chicas, I would get any notion of trying to make "advance plans" out of my head, unless you find being frustrated fun.

Get there on the ground, keep an open mind, don't rush things, don't try to plan things. Relax, enjoy yourself and go with the flow. Take each day, hour, minute as it comes. Meet people there on the ground, get out and about, go to the beach and just sit without being in a rush, etc, don't try to force things and that moment in time and space will most certainly come together for a beautiful experience with a young Colombiana.

Leave any kind of notion of being on time, planning your days in advance, etc, etc, at home in the States, Europe, Canada or wherever it is that you may find planning things ahead of time as par for the course. It's not compatible with 18 to 24 year old Colombianas and it's not compatible with the vibe of most Costenos in general, regardless of age.

IMHO, you will have a much better time if you leave your alarm clock, watch, daily planner, etc, behind.

Again, just all my opinion.

[QUOTE=Hilltopper;1505913]FWIW: Was told last week that Electra was closed and would "possibly" re-open in January. When I made inquiry about where I could find a similar bar that the working girls went to after 3 a. M, they indicated that there wasn't one at the moment.[/QUOTE]OMG!

This spoils totally my usual strategy in CGT: explore bars like Tu Candela without hurry till late, then going straight to Elektra to see all the best of CTG meeting up in one single place!

Now, if I am alone at 3am, that means I have to sadly move towards my room to sleep?

I feel depressed.

First time in Cartagena and Colombia. Strolled the beach during the day, but did not see any "action." Hit Cafe del Mar, perhaps too early at 1030p. Not much happening there, had 1 beer and went to Plaza Santo Domingo, also not much happening. (I see a trend developing.) After getting something to eat, I went to Isis just before midnight. Around 16 chicas. Was initially quoted 500K, by this very Curvy babe. She also offered 250K for 1 hour takeout. Was also told Isis would close for Christmas break this Sunday, 12/15 and reopen 1/3. Saw 3 strip shows and left. Isis had latinas to my liking, but was dead for the most part. Next stop was Tu Candelas. Only the upstairs was open. 10K cover. In front of Tu Candelas was crowded, it was Hooker centro. Was approached by a chica, not too my liking. When I got to Mr Babillas at 130a, it was closing. My only option left was LDV. A few chicas in the small plaza. As I walked in a bombshell was walking out with an older gent. Inside there were about 10 chicas. LDV was pretty dead. Chose the best one there, a curvy MILF type in a tube dress. I hoped the rate would be lower due to lack of customers, but she stood firm at 300K. (Live and learn, I shoulda taken the 250K option at Isis.) She was GFE back at the Hotel. Going to go to Pley Club tonight. If I don't see anything I like, I'll hang out in front of Tu Candelas and see what develops. Also confirmed that Elektra is closed.

[QUOTE=Black Page; 1506163]OMG!

This spoils totally my usual strategy in CGT: explore bars like Tu Candela without hurry till late, then going straight to Elektra to see all the best of CTG meeting up in one single place!

Now, if I am alone at 3am, that means I have to sadly move towards my room to sleep?

I feel depressed.[/QUOTE]All the action is in front of the Clock Tower. Dozens there at times, I saw girls there even by day and the moment it gets dark they were moving in. At one point it looked like musical chairs with girls coming in and leaving with somebody by the second it seemed.

After not seeing much in front of the Clock Tower last night, I did a strip club tour. Started off at Isis a little after 12a. It was the same as my previous visit. Got to see one of the hotter girls do a strip. A Paisa sat with me and since she was a non drinker, did not push me to buy her a drink. Waited for something more to happen, nursed a beer and left.

Went to Pley Club. 11K beer, about 9 chicas. 2 doable. Approached by one and was quoted 250K for 30min. Nursed a beer awaiting a show. Was about to leave, when they announced a strip show would start soon. Saw it and left. I wanted to checkout Chicas Linda club, but taxi driver stated it was closed.

Was about to call it a night, when he recommended El Paradiso del Marino. Musta been after 2a, when I got there. Lots of chicas, quite a few doable. When I entered, it felt like I was the only guy there, as the chicas were looking at me with hungry eyes. I felt like chum circled by hungry sharks. I clicked with a chick or so I thought. She initially quoted 300K for 30min, got it down to 200K, and got 40min. El Paradiso is open 24hrs. After 4a it starts to pick up. 11k beer. It's a strip club / house. It also has a pool and restaurant. It reminds me of a motel, that has been converted into a house. Only problem is the distance, it was a 20K cab fare back to Bocagrande. BTW, what is it about Cartagena strip clubs, where the dancers don't dance, and generally only go topless?

[QUOTE=Java Man; 1507609]After not seeing much in front of the Clock Tower last night, I did a strip club tour. Started off at Isis a little after 12a. It was the same as my previous visit. Got to see one of the hotter girls do a strip. A Paisa sat with me and since she was a non drinker, did not push me to buy her a drink. Waited for something more to happen, nursed a beer and left.

Went to Pley Club. 11K beer, about 9 chicas. 2 doable. Approached by one and was quoted 250K for 30min. Nursed a beer awaiting a show. Was about to leave, when they announced a strip show would start soon. Saw it and left. I wanted to checkout Chicas Linda club, but taxi driver stated it was closed.

Was about to call it a night, when he recommended El Paradiso del Marino. Musta been after 2a, when I got there. Lots of chicas, quite a few doable. When I entered, it felt like I was the only guy there, as the chicas were looking at me with hungry eyes. I felt like chum circled by hungry sharks. I clicked with a chick or so I thought. She initially quoted 300K for 30min, got it down to 200K, and got 40min. El Paradiso is open 24hrs. After 4a it starts to pick up. 11k beer. It's a strip club / house. It also has a pool and restaurant. It reminds me of a motel, that has been converted into a house. Only problem is the distance, it was a 20K cab fare back to Bocagrande. BTW, what is it about Cartagena strip clubs, where the dancers don't dance, and generally only go topless?[/QUOTE]Much appreciate you taking the time to share your experiences! Cheers to ya!

I fully agree with Hilltopper. You will adopt their way of life if you stay a longer period. Being transformed from being an organized Anglo-Saxon to a life enjoying Costeno. It's like taking of a shield! And feel free!

In 2010 I stayed in a friends family's house paying 500 k COP / month including 3 meals. That will not happen again, but maybe 1 million COP / month is realistic.

The people are warm, maybe even warmer than in other parts of Colombia, and those people are very friendly as they are.

I hope to stay there 14 weeks, and if I like it, return on a regular basis.

Maybe someone got a clue about a internet site or newspaper to find economical long-term stays?

[QUOTE=Hilltopper; 1505929]I don't want to come across the wrong way, but IMHO the idea of preparing a list of girls before your arrival is incompatible with not only the culture and mindset in Cartagena, but setting yourself up for disappointment. In addition to being on the Carribean Coast of Colombia, these will be 18 to 24 year old Colombianas who do not know what they are going to do this afternoon, and if they do, that's subject to change on a whimsical notion.

When going to CTG to meet chicas, I would get any notion of trying to make "advance plans" out of my head, unless you find being frustrated fun.

Get there on the ground, keep an open mind, don't rush things, don't try to plan things. Relax, enjoy yourself and go with the flow...[/QUOTE]

Yesterday afternoon, I went to Playa Hollywood. It was crowded, perhaps due to the time of year, only saw about 9 chicas. Lots of other Latinas were accompanied. Also there were a lot of families and regular folk. Not what I was expecting. Also did not meet the infamous Tony Montana. Tout recommended by another forum member pointed out the available babes. Introduced to a 24yr old Stunner, probably the best looking babe at the time. Near GFE back at the Hotel. Savored the time with her. Overpriced, but well worth, the 300K. (Was expecting a 100K. 200K rate.) She stated she was returning home next week, to be with family over Christmas. I get a feeling, most of the girls will be doing the same thing. Sunday, is supposedly the best beach day. I'll see.

Old Parr: The stunner said, Elektra was being remodeled and would reopen in Jan. The tout said it was closed due to drug use in the club and would NOT reopen. (Drug use in a Colombian Club! I'm Shocked!) Wait and see, I guess.

How is Cartagena vs. Medellin for a first timer? I don't know much Spanish, I can understand good bits and can speak basic Spanish but not much more. I have been to DR quite a few times and been able to get by just fine with my basic Spanish over there.

Just looking to get away for a few days and going some place that is safe (security wise) , offers GFE, good quality / quantity of girls (I prefer lighter skinned girls over darker skinned, but am not terribly picky) and someplace where I can do just fine with my basic Spanish. I've been to several mongering destinations over the past few years, but have yet to experience Colombia.

Is Cartagena worth it? It would be my first time, and I have read that Medellin is more better for Spanish speakers.

I am currently sipping a Ron why coca cola in a remodeled Electra, you prayers have been answered. It's now open!

Sunday at Playa Hollywood was packed. Lots of Families. Somewhat difficult to pick out the pros from the non-pros. Hooked up with the stunner again.

Went to LDV last night around 12a. A few Hotties, in tight dresses outside. Got a beer, did not see anything that stuck out inside the club. Went and sat on a bench outside. Saw a stunning morena clara walking in the small plaza. She sat nearby and asked why I was alone. She was tall. 5'10" in her heels, very curvy body, busty, thin waist and a boomin ass. Her tight tube dress barely contained her. She quoted me 150K. Back at the Hotel, she was GFE. That ass was to die for, and a good send off, as my next stop is Rio de Janeiro. She was the best of my short time here. Sadly, I found her too late.

Puntz79: I liked Cartagena, it was my first time here. The tourist zone in Baocagrande is small, IMHO. I liked the beach. Get to Playa Hollywood, in front of the infamous Hotel Caribe. Limited Spanish should not be a problem there. If you see any babes alone or in a group, they're more than likely good to go. Not sure, how you'll do, in the clubs though. Best time for the clubs is Friday, and Sat. Also plenty of light skinned babes. And as always, RTFF. Add a trip report too, Mr 35 posts. Best of luck.

[QUOTE=Java Man; 1508992]Sunday at Playa Hollywood was packed. Lots of Families. Somewhat difficult to pick out the pros from the non-pros. Hooked up with the stunner again.

Went to LDV last night around 12a. A few Hotties, in tight dresses outside. Got a beer, did not see anything that stuck out inside the club. Went and sat on a bench outside. Saw a stunning morena clara walking in the small plaza. She sat nearby and asked why I was alone. She was tall. 5'10" in her heels, very curvy body, busty, thin waist and a boomin ass. Her tight tube dress barely contained her. She quoted me 150K. Back at the Hotel, she was GFE. That ass was to die for, and a good send off, as my next stop is Rio de Janeiro. She was the best of my short time here. Sadly, I found her too late.

Puntz79: I liked Cartagena, it was my first time here. The tourist zone in Baocagrande is small, IMHO. I liked the beach. Get to Playa Hollywood, in front of the infamous Hotel Caribe. Limited Spanish should not be a problem there. If you see any babes alone or in a group, they're more than likely good to go. Not sure, how you'll do, in the clubs though. Best time for the clubs is Friday, and Sat. Also plenty of light skinned babes. And as always, RTFF. Add a trip report too, Mr 35 posts. Best of luck.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report! Short and sweet. Too bad you found the chica too late. Happened to me in Argentina a few years back.

Is there a report of distinction or a Cartagena "cliff notes"? I'm thinking about expanding my Colombia view. Both for Mongering and for Standard / Family stuff.

Gracias

[QUOTE=Zippy;1508881]I am currently sipping a Ron why coca cola in a remodeled Electra, you prayers have been answered. It's now open![/QUOTE]Amen! Brother Zippy Amen! Is the action good?

[QUOTE=Mojo Bandit;1509214]Amen! Brother Zippy Amen! Is the action good?[/QUOTE]I asked a friend of mine yesterday who works as one of the bartenders at Elektra about the status of the place, and here is her response in a text message to me.

"Mi trabajo esta cerrado porque mandaron a desalojar el local donde estaba."

I forgot to mention that vitamin C is cheaper here than in Panama City and Rio de Janeiro. I shopped around and found 5mg month supply for $103USD. It cost $160 in Panama & Rio. No script needed. OTC. Best Price was at the pharmacy across the street from the Hotel Almirante. I didn't price V. Wierd, that the day before I purchased, was quoted $110 price.

[QUOTE=Zippy;1508881]I am currently sipping a Ron why coca cola in a remodeled Electra, you prayers have been answered. It's now open![/QUOTE]When I walked in on Tuesday morning, I just got off the plane and didn't realize Electra had been closed. It looks better inside although the pizza place wasn't up and running, unfortunately. It was the best pizza in town (at least 6-7 years ago it was). Anyway, there were quite a few chicas rolling into the place, probably after LDV was closing. It wasn't as crowded as it normally is, but there was definitely enough talent to choose from.

The new name of this new place is called "Paprika." You heard it here first, folks.

[QUOTE=Java Man;1509668]I forgot to mention that vitamin C is cheaper here than in Panama City and Rio de Janeiro. I shopped around and found 5mg month supply for $103USD. It cost $160 in Panama & Rio. No script needed. OTC. Best Price was at the pharmacy across the street from the Hotel Almirante. I didn't price V. Wierd, that the day before I purchased, was quoted $110 price.[/QUOTE]Damn that is a good price. Are you saying that you got it for $3 a pill? We are talking Cialis with the Lilly hologram seal. I go to Olympia and pay like $40 for a weeks supply (4 10mg pills, I cut them in half). Am I in the right conversation or are we talking something else here?

[QUOTE=Java Man;1509668]I forgot to mention that vitamin C is cheaper here than in Panama City and Rio de Janeiro. I shopped around and found 5mg month supply for $103USD. It cost $160 in Panama & Rio. No script needed. OTC. Best Price was at the pharmacy across the street from the Hotel Almirante. I didn't price V. Wierd, that the day before I purchased, was quoted $110 price.[/QUOTE]Did you shop for the vitamin "C" at Economia Drogueria on the corner?

[QUOTE=Mojo Bandit;1510249]Damn that is a good price. Are you saying that you got it for $3 a pill? We are talking Cialis with the Lilly hologram seal. I go to Olympia and pay like $40 for a weeks supply (4 10mg pills, I cut them in half). Am I in the right conversation or are we talking something else here?[/QUOTE]I was searching high and low in Cartagena and Medellin for generic Cialis. They don't make it yet! Real Cialis (with hologram) costs the same as in the States.

[QUOTE=Puntz79; 1508791]How is Cartagena vs. Medellin for a first timer? I don't know much Spanish, I can understand good bits and can speak basic Spanish but not much more. I have been to DR quite a few times and been able to get by just fine with my basic Spanish over there.

Just looking to get away for a few days and going some place that is safe (security wise) , offers GFE, good quality / quantity of girls (I prefer lighter skinned girls over darker skinned, but am not terribly picky) and someplace where I can do just fine with my basic Spanish. I've been to several mongering destinations over the past few years, but have yet to experience Colombia.

Is Cartagena worth it? It would be my first time, and I have read that Medellin is more better for Spanish speakers.[/QUOTE]If GFE is a priority, go to the Mansion in Medellin for the first time. Plenty of guys will help you translate.

Board members, which is better Cartagena or Cali? Been to Medellin and while the women there are some of the most beautiful in the world, it's a bit spread out in terms of the casa locations to Parque Lleras (where the mongers stay). I am looking for close proximity of the action to my hotel. If the action is at a club or bar nearby the monger lodges, that would be the optimal destination. Any insight is greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Supposedly it opened last Tuesday. I went Saturday night. It was hopping. More than Dolce. It's a lot brighter than before and they play crossover music now. Cover for guys was 20k and girls was 10k and you get a 10k drink ticket. Was it that high before? I went with a couple of chicas that I knew from Dolce. They ended bringing their posse. They wanted me to pay their cover. 50k. I was kinda pissed but I put it toward a bottle which I was planning to get anyway so it wasn't too bad. 120k for a big bottle of vodka (132k with mixer). Danced the night away with 5 chicas so it wasn't all bad.

[QUOTE=Stmp24; 1510502]Board members, which is better Cartagena or Cali? Been to Medellin and while the women there are some of the most beautiful in the world, it's a bit spread out in terms of the casa locations to Parque Lleras (where the mongers stay). I am looking for close proximity of the action to my hotel. If the action is at a club or bar nearby the monger lodges, that would be the optimal destination. Any insight is greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I have never been to Cali, but I thought I would throw my two cents in because I have made a few trips to Cartagena.

If it is proximity you want, then Cartagena is good. But you say hotel. I say you should think "Apartment"! You say "casa", I say you should think "freelance". But if you are into the casa scene, thats fine too. Now let me tell you how to decide for yourself if Cartagena has the proximity you desire. In the Colombia forum that this "Cartagena Reports" thread is in there is a thread called "Cartagena Lists", if you go to "Cartagena Lists" and you open it and you scroll down to the last entry made by Hillbilly69, at the bottom of that entry is a link that will take you to a custom made Google map and you can see where Hotels, Apartments, Casas, and other places to find chicas.

My guess is that women are cheaper in Cali, but women travel from all over Colombia to Cartagena to sell their affections for money so that their family doesn't know, there are also local street walkers that are cheaper and less good looking but even some of them are hot. Between El Laguito, Boca Grande and The Historical Center. They are all a ten minute taxi ride apart, in theory if you go to Playa Hollywood during the day, and LDV at night, you could get laid twice a day and never leave El Laguito, the trick is to make sure you have a chica-friendly apartment or hotel. I always, these days, rent from the same guy in El laguito, an apartment on the ocean with a balcony and I pay about $90 dollars a night. You can find freelancers in many places other than LDV (La Dolce Vita is a discotecha that is nothing but freelance women, usually about thirty women ranging from 6s to 8s and 9s) almost always the women greatly outnumber the men so it is a buyers market. As of lately they have started a minimum drinking rule, so smart guys get there at about 11 to 11:45 pm and just wait outside for women to show up and catch them before they go in)

Basically you have 24 hour pussy like this: Playa Hollywood during the day, LDV in the night, and Elektra in the late night to dawn. Electra is not on th Hillbilly69 map (maybe because it has been open and closed a lot lately. Last word on the boards was it was open) but if you decide to go I will give you directions

[QUOTE=Java Man; 1508228]Yesterday afternoon, I went to Playa Hollywood. It was crowded, perhaps due to the time of year, only saw about 9 chicas. Lots of other Latinas were accompanied. Also there were a lot of families and regular folk. Not what I was expecting. Also did not meet the infamous Tony Montana. Tout recommended by another forum member pointed out the available babes. Introduced to a 24yr old Stunner, probably the best looking babe at the time. Near GFE back at the Hotel. Savored the time with her. Overpriced, but well worth, the 300K. (Was expecting a 100K. 200K rate.) She stated she was returning home next week, to be with family over Christmas. I get a feeling, most of the girls will be doing the same thing. Sunday, is supposedly the best beach day. I'll see.

Old Parr: The stunner said, Elektra was being remodeled and would reopen in Jan. The tout said it was closed due to drug use in the club and would NOT reopen. (Drug use in a Colombian Club! I'm Shocked!) Wait and see, I guess.[/QUOTE]Probably one of the reasons you paid 300k instead of 100 or 200k was that the tout got a healthy cut of that money, during the day it is best to camp a while on Playa Hollywood and shop around if you want to get the best price, personally though sometimes it is nice for convenience sake to just pay the price and get introduced to the hottest babe on the beach without having to shop around.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1507241]All the action is in front of the Clock Tower. Dozens there at times, I saw girls there even by day and the moment it gets dark they were moving in. At one point it looked like musical chairs with girls coming in and leaving with somebody by the second it seemed.[/QUOTE]Hi Hillbilly69, how are you? When you say in "front of the clock tower" are you referring to the area outside on the sidewalk / plaza where the taxis pull up, or inside the Plaza de Coches? Also wanted ask why Elektra was not on your map, is it because of its being closed before, I just read a post that said that it was remodeled and open again.

[QUOTE=Mojo Bandit;1511003]Hi Hillbilly69, how are you? When you say in "front of the clock tower" are you referring to the area outside on the sidewalk / plaza where the taxis pull up, or inside the Plaza de Coches? Also wanted ask why Elektra was not on your map, is it because of its being closed before, I just read a post that said that it was remodeled and open again.[/QUOTE]People call it different names, Plaza the Coches is correct, I call it the clock tower, had a friend call it Tu Candelas, he is referring to out in front of it. I took Elektra down as it was closed while I was there, it reopened the day after I left. Figured I would read it after I got back in a few weeks. Alot of action at the clock tower, saw girls there every time I walked by at all times of day but right at dark they start coming in in droves.

[QUOTE=Hioctane;1510950]Supposedly it opened last Tuesday. I went Saturday night. It was hopping. More than Dolce. It's a lot brighter than before and they play crossover music now. Cover for guys was 20k and girls was 10k and you get a 10k drink ticket. Was it that high before? I went with a couple of chicas that I knew from Dolce. They ended bringing their posse. They wanted me to pay their cover. 50k. I was kinda pissed but I put it toward a bottle which I was planning to get anyway so it wasn't too bad. 120k for a big bottle of vodka (132k with mixer). Danced the night away with 5 chicas so it wasn't all bad.[/QUOTE]I was there and I experienced the whole opening Ordeal.

Monday 16 daytime: workers inside, we open tonight.

Monday 16 evening: opening cancelled, puticas and vendors in Plaza del Reloy didn't have a clue.

Monday 16 (ooops, Tuesday 17 already) 2am: open! Open but empty. 10 waiters in uniform waiting for people in the street. 3am: some people coming. I had nice time with two girls met in the plaza. I brought them there, because they did not suspect it was open.

Tuesday etc: open, open, open! (but I left on Wed morning. I am still depressed)

[QUOTE=Hioctane;1510456]I was searching high and low in Cartagena and Medellin for generic Cialis. They don't make it yet! Real Cialis (with hologram) costs the same as in the States.[/QUOTE]This is consistent with what I know. I buy my year supply of generic Sildenafil in Colombia, but I never found any generic C or L.

[QUOTE=Zippy;1510245]The new name of this new place is called "Paprika." You heard it here first, folks.[/QUOTE]Elektra will be always "Elektra" in my heart. Sorry I cannot switch to the new name.

[QUOTE=Black Page;1511083]This is consistent with what I know. I buy my year supply of generic Sildenafil in Colombia, but I never found any generic C or L.[/QUOTE]Generic Cialis is sold in other parts of the world though, the generic name is tadalafil.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1511046]People call it different names, Plaza the Coches is correct, I call it the clock tower, had a friend call it Tu Candelas, he is referring to out in front of it. I took Elektra down as it was closed while I was there, it reopened the day after I left. Figured I would read it after I got back in a few weeks. Alot of action at the clock tower, saw girls there every time I walked by at all times of day but right at dark they start coming in in droves.[/QUOTE]Last time I was in Cartagena was in July and I picked up a chica out on the benches in front of Tu Candelas (which you directed me to THANK YOU) and she was not bad, she had blond hair and rocking body, I swear those surgeons down know how to put some breast on a woman, cause hers were perfect they looked fake but they did not feel fake at all, this chica told me she had previously married a gringo and lived in San Diego at one time (when she was like seventeen) she had great service too. For like 100 K. But she was the one that when we were in the taxi on the way to why apartment in El Laguito, the cops waved our taxi to the side at one of those check points and then pulled me out of the car and frisked me? Lucky for me I never fool around with any candy or smoke. But I thought it was odd

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1511046]People call it different names, Plaza the Coches is correct, I call it the clock tower, had a friend call it Tu Candelas, he is referring to out in front of it. I took Elektra down as it was closed while I was there, it reopened the day after I left. Figured I would read it after I got back in a few weeks. Alot of action at the clock tower, saw girls there every time I walked by at all times of day but right at dark they start coming in in droves.[/QUOTE]I don't know when they did it or when everyone else noticed, but Street View is completely available for Cartagena in Google Maps lately. The whole city with few exeptions. A great way to Recon areas and routes

Like this is the benches in front of Tu Candelas where I picked up this chica.

[QUOTE=Mojo Bandit;1511332]we were in the taxi on the way to why apartment in El Laguito, the cops waved our taxi to the side at one of those check points and then pulled me out of the car and frisked me? Lucky for me I never fool around with any candy or smoke. But I thought it was odd[/QUOTE]Wingman got searched first day he was there last trip and almost again same night, I haven't been searched yet.

Thanks for the info and I like your way of thinking. Freelance is definitely my preference, just didn't see much of it in Medellin so I was preparing myself for that type of scene in Cartagena or Cali. I'll be sure to reach out for those directions when I book my trip. Appreciate it.

[QUOTE=Mojo Bandit; 1510996]I have never been to Cali, but I thought I would throw my two cents in because I have made a few trips to Cartagena.

If it is proximity you want, then Cartagena is good. But you say hotel. I say you should think "Apartment"! You say "casa", I say you should think "freelance". But if you are into the casa scene, thats fine too. Now let me tell you how to decide for yourself if Cartagena has the proximity you desire. In the Colombia forum that this "Cartagena Reports" thread is in there is a thread called "Cartagena Lists", if you go to "Cartagena Lists" and you open it and you scroll down to the last entry made by Hillbilly69, at the bottom of that entry is a link that will take you to a custom made Google map and you can see where Hotels, Apartments, Casas, and other places to find chicas.

My guess is that women are cheaper in Cali, but women travel from all over Colombia to Cartagena to sell their affections for money so that their family doesn't know, there are also local street walkers that are cheaper and less good looking but even some of them are hot. Between El Laguito, Boca Grande and The Historical Center. They are all a ten minute taxi ride apart, in theory if you go to Playa Hollywood during the day, and LDV at night, you could get laid twice a day and never leave El Laguito, the trick is to make sure you have a chica-friendly apartment or hotel. I always, these days, rent from the same guy in El laguito, an apartment on the ocean with a balcony and I pay about $90 dollars a night. You can find freelancers in many places other than LDV (La Dolce Vita is a discotecha that is nothing but freelance women, usually about thirty women ranging from 6s to 8s and 9s) almost always the women greatly outnumber the men so it is a buyers market. As of lately they have started a minimum drinking rule, so smart guys get there at about 11 to 11:45 pm and just wait outside for women to show up and catch them before they go in)

Basically you have 24 hour pussy like this: Playa Hollywood during the day, LDV in the night, and Elektra in the late night to dawn. Electra is not on th Hillbilly69 map (maybe because it has been open and closed a lot lately. Last word on the boards was it was open) but if you decide to go I will give you directions[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1511372]Wingman got searched first day he was there last trip and almost again same night, I haven't been searched yet.[/QUOTE]I'm curious to know if your wingman was with a Chica when he got searched, I wondering if that incident with the stupid secret service guys has had an impact on the way the police treat gringos with chicas? I was thinking that of all the times I had been through the checkpoints alone, I never got stopped.

[QUOTE=Mojo Bandit;1511673]I'm curious to know if your wingman was with a Chica when he got searched, I wondering if that incident with the stupid secret service guys has had an impact on the way the police treat gringos with chicas? I was thinking that of all the times I had been through the checkpoints alone, I never got stopped.[/QUOTE]Colombian police is very professional. I was searched and questioned many times, like at least once on each visit to Colombia (except this last one). Each time, after no more than 5 minutes, after they havd explored my pockets and examined documents, I received only big smiles and "welcome to Colombia". Nothing to worry, if you have done nothing wrong. Being with a girl is not a problem. Why should it be? You are not in USA. There, you can have a gun in your pocket, but if you are with a girl dressed too sexy, presumably a street girl, hmmmmm. TROUBLE!

[QUOTE=Black Page;1511802]Colombian police is very professional. I was searched and questioned many times, like at least once on each visit to Colombia (except this last one). Each time, after no more than 5 minutes, after they havd explored my pockets and examined documents, I received only big smiles and "welcome to Colombia". Nothing to worry, if you have done nothing wrong. Being with a girl is not a problem. Why should it be? You are not in USA. There, you can have a gun in your pocket, but if you are with a girl dressed too sexy, presumably a street girl, hmmmmm. TROUBLE![/QUOTE]I have no doubt that the Colombian Police are professional and I have the upmost respect for them. The NYPD are also very professional, and I have the upmost respect for them, but the fact is that the NYPD use stop and frisk to keep out the rift raft. The policy has nothing to do with their level of professionalism, it has to do with not wanting rift raft. It also has to do with profiling. They say that the security check points were put in place because of Narcoterrorism and FARC, now I certainly do not look like anyone in FARC and I would hardly fit the profile for the average narcoterrorist. I didn't say anything about being harassed or being shook down (which is what unprofessional police do) I am saying that is possible that single white guys with prepagos are being profiled.

[quote=mojo bandit;1513070]i have no doubt that the colombian police are professional and i have the upmost respect for them. the nypd are also very professional, and i have the upmost respect for them, but the fact is that the nypd use stop and frisk to keep out the rift raft. the policy has nothing to do with their level of professionalism, it has to do with not wanting rift raft. it also has to do with profiling. they say that the security check points were put in place because of narcoterrorism and farc, now i certainly do not look like anyone in farc and i would hardly fit the profile for the average narcoterrorist. i didn't say anything about being harassed or being shook down (which is what unprofessional police do) i am saying that is possible that single white guys with prepagos are being profiled.[/quote]i don't know what is "rift raft". the police in ctg checks tourists because many of them are drug users. they come to colombia because they think they can do here what they cannot do at home. at least, coca is cheaper. i have seen several idiots buying coca and abusing over any limit.

whenever police stopped me, after a routine check of documents of me and the girl (if any) , they explored my pockets. this happened maybe 10-20 times in my life, and i've been never worried or felt unconfortable. no profiling, because they really don't care about people going with prepagos, and they don't take note of my name. why should they? there's nothing wrong in being with a girl (except the case the girl is ****, but this really seldom happens in ctg). this is not usa.

[quote=black page; 1513248]i don't know what is "rift raft". the police in ctg checks tourists because many of them are drug users. they come to colombia because they think they can do here what they cannot do at home. at least, coca is cheaper. i have seen several idiots buying coca and abusing over any limit.

whenever police stopped me, after a routine check of documents of me and the girl (if any) , they explored my pockets. this happened maybe 10-20 times in my life, and i've been never worried or felt unconfortable. no profiling, because they really don't care about people going with prepagos, and they don't take note of my name. why should they? there's nothing wrong in being with a girl (except the case the girl is ****, but this really seldom happens in ctg). this is not usa.[/quote]thanks for your input, i have just read some stories talking about how some people in cartagena felt that the secret service story had given cartagena a bad reputation so i wanted to see if they were singling out gringos that were mongering, but i think the secret service got themselves in trouble and disrespected the culture there when they refused to pay the girl, and they got what they deserved. you seem to have had enough experience to know what you are talking about, so thanks for answering my post.

rift raft can define anyone that certain people do not want around them

[QUOTE=Mojo Bandit;1514286]but I think the secret service got themselves in trouble and disrespected the culture there when they refused to pay the girl, and they got what they deserved.[/QUOTE]Ahaha!

Some of those Secret Service guys, supposedly well qualified:

1) went to PleyClub, that is one of the most famous strip / fuck clubs, where all taxi drivers want to take tourists.

2) brought girls back to their rooms, that is where classified and delicate stuff is supposedly stored.

3) finally claimed "we did not realize they were prostitutes".

At least points 2) and 3) suggest they must be moved to another function.

[QUOTE=Mojo Bandit;1514286], but I think the secret service got themselves in trouble and disrespected the culture there when they refused to pay the girl, and they got what they deserved.[/QUOTE]So there is absolutely NO WAY that the story from the working girl was over exaggerated? $400 for her time! I think the guys took the girls back, they bragged about their jobs and BOOM, the girl wanted more money and he straight up refused which any of us would have done. Since when do ANY OF US pay $400 for a club girl in any part of Colombia? Those are rates for pro women in the US in South Beach. No way she was trying to milk them upfront for that price. Just don't buy it. And how did they disrespect the culture? The culture is girls sleeping with us for money. None of us were there and we only have the girl telling her side of the story. Not once did the agent discuss the facts. Wait, these girls never lie about their work or their rates. LMAO

[QUOTE=Mojo Bandit;1510249]Damn that is a good price. Are you saying that you got it for $3 a pill? We are talking Cialis with the Lilly hologram seal. I go to Olympia and pay like $40 for a weeks supply (4 10mg pills, I cut them in half). Am I in the right conversation or are we talking something else here?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Mojo Bandit;1510250]Did you shop for the vitamin "C" at Economia Drogueria on the corner?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Hioctane;1510456]I was searching high and low in Cartagena and Medellin for generic Cialis. They don't make it yet! Real Cialis (with hologram) costs the same as in the States.[/QUOTE]Sorry, I'm currently in Brazil, have not checked this thread. Yes, I'm talking about Cialis, specifically the 5mg. 28 pills. Box has the Lilly Hologram. And it works like it should. Yes, its the Economia Drogueria, across the street from the Hotel Almirante. One has to climb a few steps to enter the store. With the exchange rate, I paid $106. 42USD. I suggest you shop around for the best deal. And if, you leave without buying, some may lower the price. Any specific questions, send an I'm.

Hey guys,

I'm planning a trip to Colombia and will be doing a 10 days each split between Cartagena and Medellin, anyone know some good hotels that are chica friend that are close to the action / nightlife in Cartagena?

Was anyone in CTG this past weekend? I am curious to see what the scene is like during the summerland EDM festival, I know there are TONS of prepagos and "semi-pros" from Medellin in town for the fest, though not necessarily for work. Have LDV and Elektra / Paprika been pretty good lately?

Does anyone know of restaurant / bar on the beach that is open at night. Outdoors prefer if they had a fire that would be a plus.

Thanks.

SS

[QUOTE=CarniFexx87; 1515965]Hey guys,

I'm planning a trip to Colombia and will be doing a 10 days each split between Cartagena and Medellin, anyone know some good hotels that are chica friend that are close to the action / nightlife in Cartagena?[/QUOTE]Save yourself the headache and get an apartment with Juan Ventura.

Hi,

I am heading to CTG for one night for work.

I must use a hotel.

Please don't tell me about apartments.

Does anyone know of a few hotels that will allow one girl in no issues other than maybe a Cedulla check.

Don't really care about the cost.

Thanks in advance.

I don't like clubs, casas, pimps, or mp. I only do man to girl negotiations, freelancers or streetwalkers.

What can I expect to pay for a reasonably attractive woman (6 and above) there short time? I am 60's young looking, handsome they tell me and not fat. I speak a little Spanish, not that much. What are the street girls like there compared to say Mexico or other countries?

[QUOTE=GiveAsIGet; 1517676]I don't like clubs, casas, pimps, or mp. I only do man to girl negotiations, freelancers or streetwalkers.

What can I expect to pay for a reasonably attractive woman (6 and above) there short time? I am 60's young looking, handsome they tell me and not fat. I speak a little Spanish, not that much. What are the street girls like there compared to say Mexico or other countries?[/QUOTE]If you will read the forum you will find answers to most of your questions.

[QUOTE=PaylRider; 1517670]Hi,

I am heading to CTG for one night for work.

I must use a hotel.

Please don't tell me about apartments.

Does anyone know of a few hotels that will allow one girl in no issues other than maybe a Cedulla check.

Don't really care about the cost.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Try reading some and all of the answers are there. Members aren't going to use their time give you all of the information when it is obvious that you don't want to spend any of yours doing your own research. If you ask a specific question you might get an answer but not one that demonstrates you don't want to put forth any effort

[QUOTE=PaylRider; 1517670]Hi,

I am heading to CTG for one night for work.

I must use a hotel.

Please don't tell me about apartments.

Does anyone know of a few hotels that will allow one girl in no issues other than maybe a Cedulla check.

Don't really care about the cost.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Try the Hampton in Boca Grande, many 2 or 3 star hotels are not a problem. Stay away from Hilton, Dann, although with only 1 guest they should be ok with cedula.

[QUOTE=Beavis;1517799]Try reading some and all of the answers are there. Members aren't going to use their time give you all of the information when it is obvious that you don't want to spend any of yours doing your own research. If you ask a specific question you might get an answer but not one that demonstrates you don't want to put forth any effort[/QUOTE]I have read all the posts and many are conflicting and jump from the original question (hotel) to apartments and then the whole topic switches to apartments, Since things change quickly in CTG, I am hoping to get some "current" information from people who frequent the place more than me.

[QUOTE=LocoGringo;1517856]Try the Hampton in Boca Grande, many 2 or 3 star hotels are not a problem. Stay away from Hilton, Dann, although with only 1 guest they should be ok with cedula.[/QUOTE]Many thanks LocoGringo, while this site is great for info, I find people jump subjects fast (like hotels to apartments) and things change so frequently its good to try to get the latest info, I am not being lazy by not researching.

[quote=speedstick; 1516101]does anyone know of restaurant / bar on the beach that is open at night. outdoors prefer if they had a fire that would be a plus.

thanks.

ss[/quote]a fire you say; are you wanting to cook your own pot of sancocho de pescado?

all jokes aside, it depends on what type of ambiance and setting you desire. if you want formal and romantic and aren't on a tight budget, then you could do club de pesca on the bay. if you want to go barefoot, share a bottle around and not worry about looking unkempt, you could round up some locals, some plastic chairs, throw together a fire made from whatever you can find, and eat fresh fish and seafood with your fingers. just kinda depends.....on you and your vibe.

[quote=speedstick; 1516101]does anyone know of restaurant / bar on the beach that is open at night. outdoors prefer if they had a fire that would be a plus.

thanks.

ss[/quote]the right spot for your taste may be el muelle, right there on the beach at the edge of el laguito. so add el muelle to the other two options given in the previous post.

Went to LDV Thursday night about midnight and it was a mecca of girls and few guys. Girl I had last year came over and we chatted, she showing me pictures of herself on her phone. Colombian girls like pictures of themselves! Last year, I remember while fingering her and she flipped over doggy style and masturbated herself to an orgasm. That's a memory that will stay with me. So I was keen to go with her again. Alejendra is a 25 year old student from Bogota and came down January 1st for their month long vacation. As I knew her and we kept in touch via Facebook, it felt awkward to bring up price. I used my calculator to show 150K cop for two hours. She wanted 200k but settled for 150k.

The memory this year is how she received a phone call in the middle of giving me a BBBJ. While the other person is yapping on, she leans over with phone in ear to continue sucking and only stopping to respond a few words then suck some more! LOL

My wingman went with a 24 year old, Valentina, who was firm on her price of 300k two hours or 500k for all night.

Friday night, at LDV the women were less out numbered but it was still a buyer's market.

Alejendra spotted me again, it was late, felt bad for her not earning any pesos tonight, so took her out again.

My question is this mininmum consumption BS that LDV is imposing. It was there last year too but seems more enforced this year. Confusion amongst the girls of what is required. Do they have to have guys buy them 3 drinks or one is good enough? Alejendra was fine with a ginger ale for 5k (enough on Thursday night) but the bartender said something to her on Friday and she switched to a whiskey for 18k. Even with that, her and her friend still thought that wasn't enough for them to leave.

How would LDV even keep track of how many drinks were bought for a girl anyways as they move around in the bar.

[QUOTE=Always Randy; 1518256]My question is this mininmum consumption BS that LDV is imposing. It was there last year too but seems more enforced this year. Confusion amongst the girls of what is required. Do they have to have guys buy them 3 drinks or one is good enough? Alejendra was fine with a ginger ale for 5k (enough on Thursday night) but the bartender said something to her on Friday and she switched to a whiskey for 18k. Even with that, her and her friend still thought that wasn't enough for them to leave.

How would LDV even keep track of how many drinks were bought for a girl anyways as they move around in the bar.[/QUOTE]Leave first. Head down the stairs and have them follow you out a couple of minutes after.

[QUOTE=Always Randy; 1518256]My question is this mininmum consumption BS that LDV is imposing. It was there last year too but seems more enforced this year. Confusion amongst the girls of what is required. Do they have to have guys buy them 3 drinks or one is good enough? Alejendra was fine with a ginger ale for 5k (enough on Thursday night) but the bartender said something to her on Friday and she switched to a whiskey for 18k. Even with that, her and her friend still thought that wasn't enough for them to leave.

How would LDV even keep track of how many drinks were bought for a girl anyways as they move around in the bar.[/QUOTE]I was there only once in December. My solution was: 1 drink for me. 1 drink for the girl I elected. Chat, sip, then I left, having set up a meeting with the girl at Reloy half hour later, for a night of fun at Mister Babilla etc.

Fuck the 100k minimum consumption policy!

[QUOTE=Hioctane;1518393]Leave first. Head down the stairs and have them follow you out a couple of minutes after.[/QUOTE]Ya, did that a couple of times last year. All the girls were suggesting it so can't believe it would take long before LDV catches wind of this and send out spies. Although never seen any. Girls suggested this too but they were also so paranoid about getting banned from the place that I suggested we meet them up the street near Riquisimos restaurant.

Whoa, just got my second police stop in Colombia. First was a few years ago in Medellin on a deserted street late at night. Easy to be lullled into complacency here in Cartagena as it is a safe tourist area. My buddy and I were passing the LDV / Exito complex on the corner of Hotel Dann when two police officer on a motorcycle came up the street from the El Muelle restaurant. It was about 6:30 pm.

Officer did a pat down of my shorts and reached very close to my groin. It was a male officer so the touch wasn't really welcomed.

He felt each pocket and got me to remove the contents one at a time. Had a key in my back pocket, a candy a couple of coins in my front. He actually sniffed the candy and gave it back, dropping one on the ground and he bent over to pick it up for me. In my front left pocket I pulled out a money clip with my credit and debit cards and about 20 mill. He turned it over several times to examine it. It's a money clip! What nefarious thing was he looking for? He never said a word throughout the whole search even when I asked if everything was ok but instead he drifted to his partner to look for any signal. My buddy said his officer did they same as if they were trying to agree what to do next.

My buddy thinks it was a shakedown attempt. Both police were male and in their early 20s. Why my buddy thinks this is that in other places such as Germany, he was stopped in the RLD, the police there was very polite and explained exactly why they stopped him. I. E. It's a place where crime exists, he was wearing a hoodie etc etc. Quite professional. Whereas tonight, he took out his money clip that also had money wrapped around it. After putting it back in his pocket and moving to other pockets, the officer asked him to take the money clip out again and wanted to see what credit cards were in it. Why does that matter? Neither of them asked to look at our ID, though if he did, I had my driver's license as one of my cards in the clip. Perhaps their assessment that I was only carrying 20 mill and my buddy only had 70 mill on him and that we were in a well lit, well travelled area made them decide it was not worth it? True other recent posts talk about doing searches to keep the rift raft out, but we were dressed like anyone else. So were they only doing their job? If so, why all the interest in the money clips?

[QUOTE=Always Randy;1518439]What nefarious thing was he looking for?[/QUOTE]Is it so hard to guess for you?

DRUG. They were looking if you have some small pill or white powder hidden somewhere.

Don't worry they will never take your money. They are just interested to keep clean the city. And yes, sometimes they catch some foreigner with white powder in the pockets.

Hi,

In early Dec I was in CTG for an overnight trip, while there I struck up a conversation with a working girl in the afternoon at the Exito across from the Dann. She was slim by Colombian standards, maybe mid twenties with light skin and blonde hair, spoke fairly good English. I was in a hurry and copied her number down wrong, this is probably a shot in the dark but if anyone knows her and can PM me her contact info or main hangout I would appreciate it.

[QUOTE=Black Page; 1518422]I was there only once in December. My solution was: 1 drink for me. 1 drink for the girl I elected. Chat, sip, then I left, having set up a meeting with the girl at Reloy half hour later, for a night of fun at Mister Babilla etc.

Fuck the 100k minimum consumption policy![/QUOTE]When I was there on 3 different nights in December, no one mentioned anything about a minimum consumption policy, nor anything about buying a drink for a chica. Nor was anything said to another Gringo who was there during the same week. Granted, I'm going to drink a beer every 10 to 15 minutes or so naturally, and if I spot a chica that catches my fancy, I may ask her to buy her a drink or send over one of the waiters to have him ask her what she'd like. No one has ever mentioned anything about any type of drink policies, be it a waiter, bartender or working girl. Plus, why wouldn't I drink and spend money there? I am at a bar, bars serve drinks and bars are in business to make money. A bar doesn't make money, it goes out of business. I kinda like having the option of it being open when I'm in town, so I say why not enjoy some beers or a bottle while at the same time showing some appreciation for the business owner who's made an investment and taken the risk?

Black Page, I don't mean to pick on you, but can I play the the devil's advocate role here? Is it such a bad thing that a business is in business to show a profit? Is it a stretch to think that this so-called minimum consumption policy only comes into play on those occasions where it appears a guy makes it quite obvious that he doesn't intend to spend any coin? How do you propose that business owner pays his rent and keeps the lights on if we all say fuck them, I'm not buying anything here, I'm just going to find a girl and have her meet me down at the end of the steps and leave?

It's all good, and I certainly don't mean any offense, but I'd kinda like to see the place make a little money from serving alcohol and keep the music playing. Hell, go in there, get a bottle or 1/2 bottle and have some fun! Rumba!

Just an opposing view.

[QUOTE=Always Randy; 1518439]Whoa, just got my second police stop in Colombia. First was a few years ago in Medellin on a deserted street late at night. Easy to be lullled into complacency here in Cartagena as it is a safe tourist area. My buddy and I were passing the LDV / Exito complex on the corner of Hotel Dann when two police officer on a motorcycle came up the street from the El Muelle restaurant. It was about 6:30 pm.

Officer did a pat down of my shorts and reached very close to my groin. It was a male officer so the touch wasn't really welcomed.

He felt each pocket and got me to remove the contents one at a time. Had a key in my back pocket, a candy a couple of coins in my front. He actually sniffed the candy and gave it back, dropping one on the ground and he bent over to pick it up for me. In my front left pocket I pulled out a money clip with my credit and debit cards and about 20 mill. He turned it over several times to examine it. It's a money clip! What nefarious thing was he looking for? He never said a word throughout the whole search even when I asked if everything was ok but instead he drifted to his partner to look for any signal. My buddy said his officer did they same as if they were trying to agree what to do next.

My buddy thinks it was a shakedown attempt. Both police were male and in their early 20s. Why my buddy thinks this is that in other places such as Germany, he was stopped in the RLD, the police there was very polite and explained exactly why they stopped him. I. E. It's a place where crime exists, he was wearing a hoodie etc etc. Quite professional. Whereas tonight, he took out his money clip that also had money wrapped around it. After putting it back in his pocket and moving to other pockets, the officer asked him to take the money clip out again and wanted to see what credit cards were in it. Why does that matter? Neither of them asked to look at our I'd, though if he did, I had my driver's license as one of my cards in the clip. Perhaps their assessment that I was only carrying 20 mill and my buddy only had 70 mill on him and that we were in a well lit, well travelled area made them decide it was not worth it? True other recent posts talk about doing searches to keep the rift raft out, but we were dressed like anyone else. So were they only doing their job? If so, why all the interest in the money clips?[/QUOTE]Black Page is correct, just a normal, routine police check in Laguito. The police there in Laguito are a positive thing; consider them to be on your side. I've been stopped and searched many times, including after just hitting up an ATM machine on my way back to Laguito in a Taxi. The result? No problems. Had me empty my pockets, had me hand them my money clip full of fresh pesos, everything was looked over and returned. No problemos.

All the times I've been stopped and searched, not once resulted in a problem, or my feeling like it was a shakedown. I will mention that I did recently end up giving a young one 10 mil on the beach so he'd let a group of 6 - 8 of us continue to shoot shots and carry-on after the sun had just gone down instead of telling us the beach was closed and best for us to go. After they continued to say we needed to leave and lingered longer than 5 minutes without relenting, a Colombian friend did pull me to the side and say give him 10 mil pesos. I inconspicuously found 10 mil pesos, two police relented, went away and the little party there on the beach continued.

Two other young police guys stopped to chat a little while later, but all they wanted to do was smile with us at the chicas and proudly display the little bit of English they could speak with a smile...tranquilo they were.

If you like to partake, my advice is don't ever carry it; never ever. Use delivery.

[QUOTE=PaylRider; 1519033]Hi,

In early Dec I was in CTG for an overnight trip, while there I struck up a conversation with a working girl in the afternoon at the Exito across from the Dann. She was slim by Colombian standards, maybe mid twenties with light skin and blonde hair, spoke fairly good English. I was in a hurry and copied her number down wrong, this is probably a shot in the dark but if anyone knows her and can PM me her contact info or main hangout I would appreciate it.[/QUOTE]I was there at the same time in Dec. Tony brought her and her morena friend from Bqlla to the carpa to talk to a fellow from Denmark who had stopped to chat and have a beer. Maybe Hillbilly will respond, or shoot him a PM, as he may have her number. If you don't get it before you arrive, go to Playa Hollywood and describe her to Tony; odds are he'll locate her for you, LOL.

[QUOTE=Always Randy; 1518439]Whoa, just got my second police stop in Colombia. First was a few years ago in Medellin on a deserted street late at night. Easy to be lullled into complacency here in Cartagena as it is a safe tourist area. My buddy and I were passing the LDV / Exito complex on the corner of Hotel Dann when two police officer on a motorcycle came up the street from the El Muelle restaurant. It was about 6:30 pm.

Officer did a pat down of my shorts and reached very close to my groin. It was a male officer so the touch wasn't really welcomed.

He felt each pocket and got me to remove the contents one at a time. Had a key in my back pocket, a candy a couple of coins in my front. He actually sniffed the candy and gave it back, dropping one on the ground and he bent over to pick it up for me. In my front left pocket I pulled out a money clip with my credit and debit cards and about 20 mill. He turned it over several times to examine it. It's a money clip! What nefarious thing was he looking for? He never said a word throughout the whole search even when I asked if everything was ok but instead he drifted to his partner to look for any signal. My buddy said his officer did they same as if they were trying to agree what to do next.

My buddy thinks it was a shakedown attempt. Both police were male and in their early 20s. Why my buddy thinks this is that in other places such as Germany, he was stopped in the RLD, the police there was very polite and explained exactly why they stopped him. I. E. It's a place where crime exists, he was wearing a hoodie etc etc. Quite professional. Whereas tonight, he took out his money clip that also had money wrapped around it. After putting it back in his pocket and moving to other pockets, the officer asked him to take the money clip out again and wanted to see what credit cards were in it. Why does that matter? Neither of them asked to look at our I'd, though if he did, I had my driver's license as one of my cards in the clip. Perhaps their assessment that I was only carrying 20 mill and my buddy only had 70 mill on him and that we were in a well lit, well travelled area made them decide it was not worth it? True other recent posts talk about doing searches to keep the rift raft out, but we were dressed like anyone else. So were they only doing their job? If so, why all the interest in the money clips?[/QUOTE]I have never had a negative experience or even a search in CTG however I have known the cops there to be dicks to others. I suspect they were just bored and harassing you. In Medellin the cops have always been polite to me, Santa Marta as well, all over really. I can't ever remember having contact with a Cartagena cop.

[QUOTE=Black Page; 1518815]Is it so hard to guess for you?

DRUG. They were looking if you have some small pill or white powder hidden somewhere.

Don't worry they will never take your money. They are just interested to keep clean the city. And yes, sometimes they catch some foreigner with white powder in the pockets.[/QUOTE]It's legal to carry small amounts of cocaine and marijuana in Colombia, is it not?

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt;1519395]It's legal to carry small amounts of cocaine and marijuana in Colombia, is it not?[/QUOTE]That is correct. 20 grams marijuana. 1 gram cocaine.

[url]http://www.drugpolicy.org/news/2012/06/colombia-decriminalize-small-amounts-cocaine-and-marijuana-personal-use[/url]

I am not surprised to hear about shakedowns in Cartagena though.

I would be more surprised to hear of this happening in Medellin or Cali.

It is the difference between being in a tourist destination or not IMO.

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt;1519395]It's legal to carry small amounts of cocaine and marijuana in Colombia, is it not?[/QUOTE]No amount of pot or cocaine is legal in Colombia. The local police are usually corrupt, good and bad thing. They target gringoes to get a quick payoff, usually 10-20, 000 pesos. I have lived here for 13+ years, had many experiences with them, also the military when driving to another city. The military is more professional, rarely asked for pesos.

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt;1519394]I suspect they were just bored and harassing you.[/QUOTE]Thanks Black Page, Hilltopper and Wilt for your comments and reassurances of the Cartagena police. IMO there seems to be more police roaming around the LDV area compared to last year. As for being bored, I saw a copper help the street cleaner last year sweep the street in front of the police checkpoint near LDV. Bet you'd never see that in America!

[QUOTE=Hilltopper;1519331]Is it a stretch to think that this so-called minimum consumption policy only comes into play on those occasions where it appears a guy makes it quite obvious that he doesn't intend to spend any coin?[/QUOTE]Guys are not harrassed for drinks. The minimum refers to the ladies that have to have x number of drinks bought for them before they can leave or else they get black listed from the club. I think what Black Page and others take offense to is that we see a chica we like. In addition to the negotiated rate, we now have to buy expensive drinks for them so they can continue freelancing at the club after. In Asia they call it a barfine. Also usually chicas don't ask for the 10. 000 beer but whiskey which is 18. 000 cop.

[QUOTE=Always Randy; 1519472]Thanks Black Page, Hilltopper and Wilt for your comments and reassurances of the Cartagena police. IMO there seems to be more police roaming around the LDV area compared to last year. As for being bored, I saw a copper help the street cleaner last year sweep the street in front of the police checkpoint near LDV. Bet you'd never see that in America!

Guys are not harrassed for drinks. The minimum refers to the ladies that have to have x number of drinks bought for them before they can leave or else they get black listed from the club. I think what Black Page and others take offense to is that we see a chica we like. In addition to the negotiated rate, we now have to buy expensive drinks for them so they can continue freelancing at the club after. In Asia they call it a barfine. Also usually chicas don't ask for the 10. 000 beer but whiskey which is 18. 000 cop.[/QUOTE]They were harassed for drinks. At least we were. They stopped us from leaving and said we had to drink 100k each. Not just 100k for the whole table. This was a while back when the policy started. Maybe the policy has changed and they realized it's not a good idea to harass the customers. I did notice more chicas hitting me up for expensive drinks now. Anyways, since then we always meet them outside.

[QUOTE=Hilltopper; 1519331]When I was there on 3 different nights in December, no one mentioned anything about a minimum consumption policy, nor anything about buying a drink for a chica. Nor was anything said to another Gringo who was there during the same week. Granted, I'm going to drink a beer every 10 to 15 minutes or so naturally, and if I spot a chica that catches my fancy, I may ask her to buy her a drink or send over one of the waiters to have him ask her what she'd like. No one has ever mentioned anything about any type of drink policies, be it a waiter, bartender or working girl. Plus, why wouldn't I drink and spend money there? I am at a bar, bars serve drinks and bars are in business to make money. A bar doesn't make money, it goes out of business. I kinda like having the option of it being open when I'm in town, so I say why not enjoy some beers or a bottle while at the same time showing some appreciation for the business owner who's made an investment and taken the risk?..[/QUOTE]The policy is just annoying. Not everyone drinks. Some people go to the bar just to pick up chicas. If you are by yourself, maybe you don't want to order a whole bottle or even half. Sometimes I don't find anyone I like, and I want to go someplace else and share a taxi with a couple of girls. There are numerous reasons why the policy is bad.

[QUOTE=LocoGringo;1519470]No amount of pot or cocaine is legal in Colombia. The local police are usually corrupt, good and bad thing. They target gringoes to get a quick payoff, usually 10-20, 000 pesos. I have lived here for 13+ years, had many experiences with them, also the military when driving to another city. The military is more professional, rarely asked for pesos.[/QUOTE]Their policy is similar to Mexico, a gram or so of cocaine, a couple marijuana cigarettes, etc. This is readily available info, it's on Wikipedia even.

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt;1519609]Their policy is similar to Mexico, a gram or so of cocaine, a couple marijuana cigarettes, etc. This is readily available info, it's on Wikipedia even.[/QUOTE]That may be the official policy but not everything applies to extranjeros. It might just be a corrupt cop looking for a payoff. Always err on the side of caution especially in a foreign country!

[QUOTE=Hioctane;1519575]The policy is just annoying. Not everyone drinks. Some people go to the bar just to pick up chicas. If you are by yourself, maybe you don't want to order a whole bottle or even half. Sometimes I don't find anyone I like, and I want to go someplace else and share a taxi with a couple of girls. There are numerous reasons why the policy is bad.[/QUOTE]I agree, sounds annoying, but my hunch is that the policy only exists for guys who show a proclivity for doing what you said: "some people go to the bar just to pick up chicas". Absent those kind of guys, my bet is that they'd never utter a word to a single person about any type of minimum policy. Nary a chica, nary a waiter, nary anyone has said a word to me or to anyone I know who goes there about buying drinks for chicas, or spending any kind of minimum, etc. We aren't anything special, that's for certain, so why are you made aware of this so-called policy, yet others aren't?

I'm going to put my devil's advocate hat on again, and I realize it may not be popular, but I hope it is found thought-provoking by at least someone:

Do you suggest that the price of drinks should be raise instead on the guys who don't have to be told to buy drinks, so that the guys who don't want to spend money can just go there to pick-up chicas and have the run of the place? Maybe those who do drink should pay more so you can come inside, take up a table, etc., without buying anything, but enjoy all the same amenities?

You say not everyone drinks, I agree, but does that prevent that person from spending money buying drinks for others along with bottles of water for himself? The times I've gone there and not felt like drinking alcohol, I buy a bottle water, and then another when that one's finished, etc.

Why not just stay outside to find chicas? Why come inside the bar? Why just not look for chicas outside Tu Candela? Why not just pick up street walkers? Why not just pick up chicas on the beach?

When you go to book your flight to Colombia, do you tell the airline that you really don't want a seat, you just want to come along for the ride and are happy to stand, therefore they should not charge you? When they say you have to pay for a seat to ride on our plane, do you say that's annoying, that you don't feel like sitting, therefore you shouldn't be charged?

Reminds me of those illegally in the States protesting for in-state tuition, for free services, for this, for that, etc, etc, and then saying it's not fair for them to be denied assistance and support.

What happens to the place if none of us buy anything once we walk inside? What happens when everyone decides to be a taker, and no one gives back, no one buys any drinks; will the place be open the next time we come back to Cartagena?

[QUOTE=Hioctane;1519647]That may be the official policy but not everything applies to extranjeros. It might just be a corrupt cop looking for a payoff. Always err on the side of caution especially in a foreign country![/QUOTE]I agree with this notion; I'm a visitor and it ain't Kansas I'm visiting. If something goes astray, there's no ACLU, no Jessie Jackson, no Al Sharpton, no protestors saying I wasn't treated the same as a Colombiano.

[QUOTE=Hioctane;1519647]That may be the official policy but not everything applies to extranjeros. It might just be a corrupt cop looking for a payoff. Always err on the side of caution especially in a foreign country![/QUOTE]They often just mess with you and if they want a bribe, then they WANT a bribe and will give you opportunity to do it. Bottom line, they are not trying to take you to lockup, that's a headache for them, especially with a foreigner. They either just want to yank your chain a bit or get their palm greased with 10 bucks or so. To be honest I prefer this to the way police operate in many industrialized countries.

I rode a bus once with a German guy, some sort of biologist but really loopy. The bus got searched and he had a bag of joints fall out of his pocket. When we all got back on, one of the cops came up to him and said "Is this yours?" He was ready to just shit his entire colon on himself, until the cop handed him the bag and said "you should be more careful."

Needless to say, there is not as much emphasis on protocol in Colombian policework!

[quote=locogringo;1519470]no amount of pot or cocaine is legal in colombia. the local police are usually corrupt, good and bad thing. they target gringoes to get a quick payoff, usually 10-20, 000 pesos. i have lived here for 13+ years, had many experiences with them, also the military when driving to another city. the military is more professional, rarely asked for pesos.[/quote][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/legal_status_of_cocaine[/url]

all you have to do is a quick google search. plenty of info on this topic.

i have been stopped by military at checkpoints and never had a problem. i got pulled over outside of cali for speeding by the military. they made me wait for 10 minutes and then said the fine was 50k ($25). i have been in casas during id checks a few times but never a raid. no problems.

the problems with the authorities in cartagena are due to it being a tourists destination. in the cartagena tourist area foreigners are looked at as easy targets.

[quote=hilltopper; 1519820]i agree, sounds annoying, but my hunch is that the policy only exists for guys who show a proclivity for doing what you said: "some people go to the bar just to pick up chicas". absent those kind of guys, my bet is that they'd never utter a word to a single person about any type of minimum policy. nary a chica, nary a waiter, nary anyone has said a word to me or to anyone i know who goes there about buying drinks for chicas, or spending any kind of minimum, etc. we aren't anything special, that's for certain, so why are you made aware of this so-called policy, yet others aren't?

i'm going to put my devil's advocate hat on again, and i realize it may not be popular, but i hope it is found thought-provoking by at least someone:..[/quote]9 times out of 10 we drink the minimum without the "policy." on the one one night we don't drink the minimum, we get harassed. and we go there every night when we are in town. you don't think we have a right to be peeved? it is not a good way to treat customers. i understand why there is a need for it. i would prefer a policy like paprika or tu candela where you have a cover charge that is paid back with drinks so in essence there is a minimum drink amount which applies to everyone.

[quote=hioctane;1520094]9 times out of 10 we drink the minimum without the "policy." on the one one night we don't drink the minimum, we get harassed. and we go there every night when we are in town. you don't think we have a right to be peeved? it is not a good way to treat customers. i understand why there is a need for it. i would prefer a policy like paprika or tu candela where you have a cover charge that is paid back with drinks so in essence there is a minimum drink amount which applies to everyone.[/quote]a right? no. if you ask whether you have a reason or not, then my answer is yes, but not a "right".

no one said a word to me, be it about a minimum, chica drink policy or what not. nor do i believe they said anything to another gringo i knew who was in town that week. i doubt i spent over 100 mil on two out of the three nights i stopped through in december, while the first night i certainly did.

the guy in town that week that i know did say that one of the waiters said something to a european guy he had befriended. i asked why did he think that happened, and he said the guy ordered one beer, nursed it and then kept declining to buy a second one after he was clearly finished. eventually they said something.

in your case, if you guys are drinkers 9 out of 10 times, then i think all it would take is a friendly smile, handshake and a pat on the back to the waiter to jokingly remind him how much you drank the previous night (s) and then with a grin and a laugh say that agua is all you can handle for tonight.

you go that often, it's called relationship building. just my dos centavos.

[QUOTE=Hilltopper; 1520149]A right? No. If you ask whether you have a reason or not, then my answer is yes, but not a "right".

No one said a word to me, be it about a minimum, chica drink policy or what not. Nor do I believe they said anything to another gringo I knew who was in town that week. I doubt I spent over 100 mil on two out of the three nights I stopped through in December, while the first night I certainly did.

The guy in town that week that I know did say that one of the waiters said something to a European guy he had befriended. I asked why did he think that happened, and he said the guy ordered one beer, nursed it and then kept declining to buy a second one after he was clearly finished. Eventually they said something.

In your case, if you guys are drinkers 9 out of 10 times, then I think all it would take is a friendly smile, handshake and a pat on the back to the waiter to jokingly remind him how much you drank the previous night (s) and then with a grin and a laugh say that agua is all you can handle for tonight.

You go that often, it's called relationship building. Just my dos centavos.[/QUOTE]This happened a year ago when this stupid policy started. Yes, we tried to be nice and they wouldn't budge. It sounds like recently they are getting the girls to hit guys up for drinks instead. Just as annoying when the first thing out of a chica's mouth is "can you buy me a drink?"

[quote=vegas jeff; 1519892][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/legal_status_of_cocaine[/url]

all you have to do is a quick google search. plenty of info on this topic.

i have been stopped by military at checkpoints and never had a problem. i got pulled over outside of cali for speeding by the military. they made me wait for 10 minutes and then said the fine was 50k ($25). i have been in casas during i'd checks a few times but never a raid. no problems.

the problems with the authorities in cartagena are due to it being a tourists destination. in the cartagena tourist area foreigners are looked at as easy targets.[/quote]are you saying you was stopped at checkpoints with weed / cocaine in your pockets with no problems?

[QUOTE=Hioctane;1520181]Are you saying you was stopped at checkpoints with weed / cocaine in your pockets with no problems?[/QUOTE]No. Just stating my interactions with the police / military in Colombia in general. Always friendly. Never a problem. If I had drugs on me at the checkpoint it wouldn't have made a difference. I never got patted down and no dogs nearby. Only in Airports.

As I stated before, the police are only a problem in the Cartagena tourist area because Cartagena it is a tourist destination. Just use a little more diligence in this area. If you are unlucky to stopped by the police, and you are doing something wrong, offer them a few bucks and you should be fine.

[QUOTE=Vegas Jeff; 1520600]No. Just stating my interactions with the police / military in Colombia in general. Always friendly. Never a problem. If I had drugs on me at the checkpoint it wouldn't have made a difference. I never got patted down and no dogs nearby. Only in Airports.

As I stated before, the police are only a problem in the Cartagena tourist area because Cartagena it is a tourist destination. Just use a little more diligence in this area. If you are unlucky to stopped by the police, and you are doing something wrong, offer them a few bucks and you should be fine.[/QUOTE]We were stopped a couple of times leaving the old city by taxi with chicas. Made us get out of the car and empty our pockets. Even had the chicas open up their purses. Did not shake us down but one time gave my friend a hassle for having a couple pills of sildenafil in his pocket. I would never carry anything in my pocket. Watching too many episodes of "locked up abroad!" LOL.

[QUOTE=Hioctane;1520812]We were stopped a couple of times leaving the old city by taxi with chicas. Made us get out of the car and empty our pockets. Even had the chicas open up their purses. Did not shake us down but one time gave my friend a hassle for having a couple pills of sildenafil in his pocket. I would never carry anything in my pocket. Watching too many episodes of "locked up abroad!" LOL.[/QUOTE]I have been to Cartagena many times never had any real problems with the police. Some nights I have been checked as much as three times some nights never get checked. Sometimes in a taxi the police will just check me sometimes they will just check the chicas but most of the time they will check both of us and ask the taxi driver to open the trunk of the car to look in. If you don't have drugs it's no problem.

About the sildenafil pills if they are still in the package they never ask what it is, but when the pills are loose in your pocket they will ask you. If I take sidenafil pills with me I take them out of the box and leave them in the package you pop the out of. I have never had any problems doing it that way.

Hello everyone,

I've just arrived in Cartagena and will stay for a while. I am looking for a place like cafe rojo in quito ecuador. This place was the best. About 20 girls to choose from and mainly hot Colombianas. It was like a club with rooms upstairs and it was really cheap. 20 US$ to fuck or to have a private dance. You just approached the girl you like and that s about it. No negotiating, buying her a drink or whatsoever. The best was it is open every day from lunch time.

Let me know if something similar exists here.

I also looking for a wingman. Pm me if you want to hang out together.

Seems like short time is around 150k-250k realistically from LDV.

I'd love to get back to CTG but the pricing is putting me off. Casa's are how much now?

How much cheaper are the street girls hanging round the place square or media luna?

[QUOTE=Smizzle; 1521674]I've just arrived in Cartagena and will stay for a while. I am looking for a place like cafe rojo in quito ecuador. This place was the best. About 20 girls to choose from and mainly hot Colombianas. It was like a club with rooms upstairs and it was really cheap. 20 US$ to fuck or to have a private dance. You just approached the girl you like and that s about it. No negotiating, buying her a drink or whatsoever. The best was it is open every day from lunch time.

Let me know if something similar exists here.[/QUOTE]Read the fucking forum. If you had done your research before you went then you would know that Cartagena is not cheap for mongering, especially so if you think you are going to point and click. Your best chance / lowest price is to get short time from a girl you see at the beach and I am sure that it is going to cost you more than $20.

[QUOTE=Biffa; 1523541]Seems like short time is around 150k-250k realistically from LDV.

I'd love to get back to CTG but the pricing is putting me off. Casa's are how much now?

How much cheaper are the street girls hanging round the place square or media luna?[/QUOTE]Yep. That's about right. It not even worth it for ST. I always try to negotiate for TLN. If I can find TLN for 300k, she's a keeper!

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1523564]Read the fucking forum. If you had done your research before you went then you would know that Cartagena is not cheap for mongering, especially so if you think you are going to point and click. Your best chance / lowest price is to get short time from a girl you see at the beach and I am sure that it is going to cost you more than $20.[/QUOTE]Nice answer, I've been thinking that same thing since I read that, we all try to be nice here but that was not even a question worth answering!

[QUOTE=RacShack;1523710]Nice answer, I've been thinking that same thing since I read that, we all try to be nice here but that was not even a question worth answering![/QUOTE]I've read the forum and couldn't find something.

Thanks for the really nice answer!

And now shut up!

[QUOTE=Smizzle; 1521674]Hello everyone,

I've just arrived in Cartagena and will stay for a while. I am looking for a place like cafe rojo in quito ecuador. This place was the best. About 20 girls to choose from and mainly hot Colombianas. It was like a club with rooms upstairs and it was really cheap. 20 US$ to fuck or to have a private dance. You just approached the girl you like and that s about it. No negotiating, buying her a drink or whatsoever. The best was it is open every day from lunch time.

Let me know if something similar exists here.

I also looking for a wingman. Pm me if you want to hang out together.[/QUOTE]Only place I know of like that is in Quito, Ecuador. It's called Cafe Rojo.

[QUOTE=Hioctane;1523698]Yep. That's about right. It not even worth it for ST. I always try to negotiate for TLN. If I can find TLN for 300k, she's a keeper![/QUOTE]OK, last time I was there (2005ish) there were several casa's e. G. One called "Rosario's" and another one that was by the oil refinery. Are they still functioning? Is there a casa culture, even if its a taxi ride away from the town square?

[QUOTE=Biffa;1524365]OK, last time I was there (2005ish) there were several casa's e. G. One called "Rosario's" and another one that was by the oil refinery. Are they still functioning? Is there a casa culture, even if its a taxi ride away from the town square?[/QUOTE]Rosario is still there. 70k for half hour I recall. I think there is a room charge too. I haven't tried. The lineup sucks.

Just got back from a week in Cartagena. Quality of chicks at LDV has gone down the tubes! On the bright side, Parika is hopping again like the good old days. A note about policia. Seems to be more than usual. One night we left LDV and headed for Paprika. My friend his girl and myself. There was a checkpoint by that policia median. They made everyone get out of the taxi and patted me down, patted my friend down and fingered his wallet. Checked the chica's bag before letting us go. Lucky I insisted that the chica leave everything she had at the apartment. A couple of days later, Tony is finding a chica for my friend. He is out in the street paying for the taxi when a ton of police scooters surround them. The massage chica on the beach was telling us about personal usage sizes, but apparently the chica had too much perico on her and they were taking her down to the station. We wasn't sure if Tony got nabbed too. Anyways, we hightailed it back to the beach. Not sure what happened to Tony after that. That Saturday night, they wouldn't let Taxis into Centro. Apparently. 5 South American presidents were having dinner at a restaurant in Centro. Policia everywhere.

[QUOTE=Hioctane;1530471]We wasn't sure if Tony got nabbed too. Anyways, we hightailed it back to the beach. Not sure what happened to Tony after that.[/QUOTE]Wow. What a piece of news, to know we got rid of him.

[QUOTE=Hioctane;1530471]That Saturday night, they wouldn't let Taxis into Centro. Apparently. 5 South American presidents were having dinner at a restaurant in Centro. Policia everywhere.[/QUOTE]You were lucky the Five Presidents didn't opt for an after-dinner at Paprika....

(1) Was in Cartagena in 2009. Got an apartment from Mary in the tourist area, which is

An area with lots of apartment buildings.

It is In-between the Hilton Hotel and La Dolce Vita.

Is Mary still around? Does anyone have contact info for her?

If she's not around, can you recommend someone else who rents apartments in that area?

I want to stay in the same area.

Also:

(2) Was looking for a list of taxi drivers to show me around to nite clubs, girls, beaches, houses etc.

Found a driver list in the "list" section of the forum, but it's from 2011. Any more recent Cartagena driver list?

[QUOTE=Henry R; 1530890] (1) Was in Cartagena in 2009. Got an apartment from Mary in the tourist area, which is

An area with lots of apartment buildings.

It is In-between the Hilton Hotel and La Dolce Vita.

Is Mary still around? Does anyone have contact info for her?

If she's not around, can you recommend someone else who rents apartments in that area?

I want to stay in the same area.

Also:

(2) Was looking for a list of taxi drivers to show me around to nite clubs, girls, beaches, houses etc.

Found a driver list in the "list" section of the forum, but it's from 2011. Any more recent Cartagena driver list?[/QUOTE]Juan Ventura. All his apartments are in that area.

[QUOTE=Hioctane;1530909]Juan Ventura. All his apartments are in that area.[/QUOTE]Mario, good English, knows what is happening and where.

310-3555422

[QUOTE=LocoGringo; 1531156]Mario, good English, knows what is happening and where.

310-3555422[/QUOTE]Is Martin still around? Haven't heard from this guy in a while?

[QUOTE=Henry R; 1530890] (1) Was in Cartagena in 2009. Got an apartment from Mary in the tourist area, which is

An area with lots of apartment buildings.

It is In-between the Hilton Hotel and La Dolce Vita.

Is Mary still around? Does anyone have contact info for her?

If she's not around, can you recommend someone else who rents apartments in that area?

I want to stay in the same area.

Also:

(2) Was looking for a list of taxi drivers to show me around to nite clubs, girls, beaches, houses etc.

Found a driver list in the "list" section of the forum, but it's from 2011. Any more recent Cartagena driver list?[/QUOTE]Mery can be contacted from:

The web site Colombia Rental. COM lists her ph.

Look at this contact page: at ColombiaRenatl. COM.

[url]http://www.colombiarental.com/contact.php[/url]

[QUOTE=Dogman2; 1536864]Mery can be contacted from:

The web site Colombia Rental. COM lists her ph.

Look at this contact page: at ColombiaRenatl. COM.

[url]http://www.colombiarental.com/contact.php[/url][/QUOTE]I went into the website you mentioned which is:

[url]www.colombiarental.com/contact.php[/url]

I went through all the tabs and menu choices on the site,

But there was nothing listing phone or contact info for any agents.

I would like contact info for Mary and also for Juan Ventura.

It should cost you only a few dollars to call them.

Most times in Latin countries, it is best to call, because a lot of times they do not respond to emails.

011-57-5-655-0384

[QUOTE=Henry R; 1537785]I went into the website you mentioned which is:

[url]www.colombiarental.com/contact.php[/url]

I went through all the tabs and menu choices on the site,

But there was nothing listing phone or contact info for any agents.

I would like contact info for Mary and also for Juan Ventura.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=World Travel 69; 1537918]It should cost you only a few dollars to call them.

Most times in Latin countries, it is best to call, because a lot of times they do not respond to emails.[/QUOTE]Juan Ventura always replied to my emails within 12 hours.

[QUOTE=Henry R; 1537785]I went into the website you mentioned which is:

[url]www.colombiarental.com/contact.php[/url]

I went through all the tabs and menu choices on the site,

But there was nothing listing phone or contact info for any agents.

I would like contact info for Mary and also for Juan Ventura.[/QUOTE]Mery 310-725-7656 oficerna@yahoo.com

Juan 310-363-7974.

Great to see you post again.

Not many chica reports lately on this forum. I searched back several pages and it is not clear if Electra is open now? It was supposed to in January?

Is Isis still open? I heard someone mention paprika but did not see any details.

My plans for my upcoming trip in April: I decided to go with a change of venue and rented an apartment close to the Clock tower (with an outdoor pool) , as opposed to Bocagrande or Languito. My rational is that I can take the taxi to the beaches during the afternoon but minimize driving around at night as the late night action now seems to be at the Centro. I see no good reports from LDV. Please feel to share your thoughts and I will report back

[QUOTE=Vitrea; 1538435]Great to see you post again.

Not many chica reports lately on this forum. I searched back several pages and it is not clear if Electra is open now? It was supposed to in January?

Is Isis still open? I heard someone mention paprika but did not see any details.

My plans for my upcoming trip in April: I decided to go with a change of venue and rented an apartment close to the Clock tower (with an outdoor pool) , as opposed to Bocagrande or Languito. My rational is that I can take the taxi to the beaches during the afternoon but minimize driving around at night as the late night action now seems to be at the Centro. I see no good reports from LDV. Please feel to share your thoughts and I will report back[/QUOTE]Yes from what I here it's open and yes called paprika, like your idea about staying by clock tower, I was thinking same thing next time I go, you have any info on the apt you rented? With pics of it? Or is their a site with options of apts available? And yes good to see Hillbilly on, first time I went over their he set me up well with all his info, felt like I was their before after reading his stuff!

[QUOTE=Vitrea; 1538435]Great to see you post again.

Not many chica reports lately on this forum. I searched back several pages and it is not clear if Electra is open now? It was supposed to in January?

Is Isis still open? I heard someone mention paprika but did not see any details.

My plans for my upcoming trip in April: I decided to go with a change of venue and rented an apartment close to the Clock tower (with an outdoor pool) , as opposed to Bocagrande or Languito. My rational is that I can take the taxi to the beaches during the afternoon but minimize driving around at night as the late night action now seems to be at the Centro. I see no good reports from LDV. Please feel to share your thoughts and I will report back[/QUOTE]Paprika is the new Elektra. It was reopened in early December I believe. Back to normal, very busy. Except brighter and they play crossover music now.

Isis is still open. Was there in February. I thought I was there before but when I got inside, I don't think I did. Ok selection.

Was in LDV December and February. The selection was less than stellar.

How was the apartment in Centro?

[QUOTE=Hioctane; 1538947]Paprika is the new Elektra. It was reopened in early December I believe. Back to normal, very busy. Except brighter and they play crossover music now.

Isis is still open. Was there in February. I thought I was there before but when I got inside, I don't think I did. Ok selection.

Was in LDV December and February. The selection was less than stellar.

How was the apartment in Centro?[/QUOTE]Hioctane, thanks for the quick but excellent update on the clubs.

I just booked the apartment for my April stay. Will let you know how it goes.

As you know, centro hotels and apartments are a bit more expensive than those on the strip but I wanted to try it.

Paprika: if this the new Electra, does it mean that it does not get going till 2 AM? Thanks.

[QUOTE=Vitrea; 1539094]Hioctane, thanks for the quick but excellent update on the clubs.

I just booked the apartment for my April stay. Will let you know how it goes.

As you know, centro hotels and apartments are a bit more expensive than those on the strip but I wanted to try it.

Paprika: if this the new Electra, does it mean that it does not get going till 2 AM? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Any site with info with hotels and apts in centro? A pool is very important to me, any info on the place you rented?

Thanks

I am in CTG and I am happy.

[QUOTE=RacShack; 1539196]Any site with info with hotels and apts in centro? A pool is very important to me, any info on the place you rented?

Thanks[/QUOTE]I will send you a PM and I will post the info here after my trip.

I generally use booking. Com (which has apartments that are managed like hotels) and trip advisor vacation rentals for my worldwide travels. For MDE, I use apartmentMedellin. Com.

Will be in Cartagena in two weeks. Would rather do a Hotel than an apartment. Has anyone had luck getting chicas into any of the hotels, even with a guest charge?

I don't have time to write a long report in BP style, but I wish to give some highlights. I could spend hours telling funny details, but sorry I have no time.

I stay here 5 nights this time. I learned again that here money rules. Spend it in quantity and you MAY have lot of fun. Be stingy and you will lose all potential fun. (lots of money is necessary condition, by far not sufficient).
In 4 nights, I experienced the following.

Night 1
3some night with my beloved 2 friends of last time (L+M). One (M) is my dream. Educated, clean, polite girl with one son and close to 30, but looking as a teen. They are really good performers, but they rush away at 5am instead of sleeping with me. 200 each, after night at Tu Candela, many drinks and 2 hours in my apt.

Night 2
3-some with 2 other girls (F+R) , regulars of LDV, met at Elektra. One (F) is totally crazy, not bad but crazy, with photo-model amazing body. I knew her since one year before, but she forgot me. The other (R) is more MILF, but much more reliable, intelligent, and ultimately more interesting for me. They stay and sleep till 12. 250 each.

Day 3
At the beach, I notice a teen blonde girl in company with a big black man and a big black lady. The man approaches her and it's frankly disgusting. I imagine that the lady brought a gift to the man. I establish eye contact. After one hour, she slowly moves to the toilet. I slowly stand up and I go out of the bar, putting in her hand a small piece of paper with my number.

Night 3
Again 3some with the same 2 F+R. This time I am less satisfied. Once in my apt, after a whole night in Tu Candela till 3am, the crazy one is much more lazy and is always chatting on her phone with her novio in Italy. I must disconnect the wifi (upon suggestion of the other) to get her interested more to my dick). They stay and sleep till 10. 200 each.

Night 4
I accompany R to buy home supply at Bazurto supermarket. This is what I like. We go there just to talk, not because she wants me to pay fancy items.I go back to Center walking alone (45 minutes?), because the traffic is a nightmare.
I take out the teen girl (R2) to have dinner. She is from a barrio of Cartagena. It's embarassing. She is beautiful as a doll, blond and with green eyes, looking 16yo but exhibiting a cedula which says 20. She does not speak. She says she does not lilke to eat. I take her to my apt. She says that she demands 200, not negotiable. Standard session, but with a doll which is frankly amazing, and looking as 16yo. I will not repeat. Her technique in sex is good, but I need something more than just sex with a doll. At 12 she rushes out and I am free to go out for the night.
My beloved M is busy. She does not answer the phone. I see her coming out from Café del Mar under the arm of someone like an Indian (!) business man, in a large group with something like 5 girls, all extremely pretty, all never seen in LDV. She smiles to me, and destroys my mood. I am done. I cannot go hunting anymore. I miss her. I go back to sleep, I wake up at 2:30am, I go to Elektra, where I pick a nice one, experienced regular but kind and pretty, just a bit round. Asks 150 for 1 shot, I propose 200 for TLN. All perfect, included drinks and pizza, but she leaves me in the morning without offering me a 2nd round. Great experience anyway.

Night 5
I don't know yet. It's 8:30pm now. The day was boring. I wanted desperately to meet M, but she tells me she is busy 3 days with the Indians, who pay them 300USD PER DAY EACH GIRL. They contacted them via an escort agency, who takes its fee on top of the 300$. M was called by a friend, because the agency did not have enough girls, I think. Now, we will see her less at LDV and she will start earning more via the agency, to save for her university tuition fee. Good for her.
R promised me to find a good girl for spending the night together, but she is disappointed. Her friends do not respond, and she does not want to call one of the many rushy putas from LDV. We agree we do not need this. We will go out for dinner and then we can go out hunting. She is not the sexiest and most flashy girl in LDV, she is below average if we look at body and first appearance, but 10 times more interesting than those silicon babes.

Night 5 (part 2)

I go to pick up R where she lives in Getsemani. She's wearing a flower dress, so clean and neat, totally different from the puta look in LDV. I try to explain her that the men would notice her much more, if she would dress like that always and not only for me.

We have a romantic dinner at Quebracho, Cafe del Mar, and we go to my apt.
Well, I have seen many things in my life, but a girl hot like her is really extraordinary. She's doing things you don't see in 99% of porn movies (I will not give details). I really don't think she does this with everyone. We have a special feeling. She's intelligent and sensitive. She has a large family and does all this to support it. In short, I may fall in love. Now that I left Colombia I have a heavy heart, thinking about her far from me!

At 3am, she is tired and would like to sleep, BUT (again notice how good is this girl) she understands my feeling: this is my last night and I want to live it all.
We go to Elektra to meet her friends and do some noise. Her friends are all sexy and very warm, but for respect to R I don't propose to anyone to join us in my apt.

Next morning (3 hours later) , R slips out of my bed and she tells me she needs to go home. I am disappointed we have no morning sex, but I understands that she must feel tired and even some pain. I leave her and I put in her hands much more than she expected. But she is not like others.

I have my flight at 2:20pm. Now it's 11:00am. I start thinking that maybe I can call one of her friends. R is very supportive. She immediately gives me the phone numbers.
30 minutes of attempts to find the one I liked most (not the most beautiful, but a sex bomb spreading desire all around), but she is somewhere sleeping. Finally her sister comes to my apt. She shows up at 12, and we have 1 hour before I grab a taxi to reach the airport (14 mins!). She is simply great. She treats me with all her ability. I give her 200. I think I am more generous than the average (spoiling the market? Please tell me) but she was really GREAT.

Goodbye CTG. Another outstanding memory, and lots of nostalgy which will last a long time.

Great report, Black Page! The girls have left a nice long lasting finish. Don't even think of finding faults with them or with whom they learned the tricks of love. You did well on the check book, almost like our Indian friends, eh?

[QUOTE=Black Page; 1540963]Night 5 (part 2)

I go to pick up R where she lives in Getsemani. She's wearing a flower dress, so clean and neat, totally different from the puta look in LDV. I try to explain her that the men would notice her much more, if she would dress like that always and not only for me.

We have a romantic dinner at Quebracho, Cafe del Mar, and we go to my apt.

Well, I have seen many things in my life, but a girl hot like her is really extraordinary. She's doing things you don't see in 99% of porn movies (I will not give details). I really don't think she does this with everyone. We have a special feeling. She's intelligent and sensitive. She has a large family and does all this to support it. In short, I may fall in love. Now that I left Colombia I have a heavy heart, thinking about her far from me!

At 3am, she is tired and would like to sleep, BUT (again notice how good is this girl) she understands my feeling: this is my last night and I want to live it all.

We go to Elektra to meet her friends and do some noise. Her friends are all sexy and very warm, but for respect to R I don't propose to anyone to join us in my apt.

Next morning (3 hours later) , R slips out of my bed and she tells me she needs to go home. I am disappointed we have no morning sex, but I understands that she must feel tired and even some pain. I leave her and I put in her hands much more than she expected. But she is not like others.

I have my flight at 2:20pm. Now it's 11:00am. I start thinking that maybe I can call one of her friends. R is very supportive. She immediately gives me the phone numbers.

30 minutes of attempts to find the one I liked most (not the most beautiful, but a sex bomb spreading desire all around) , but she is somewhere sleeping. Finally her sister comes to my apt. She shows up at 12, and we have 1 hour before I grab a taxi to reach the airport (14 mins!). She is simply great. She treats me with all her ability. I give her 200. I think I am more generous than the average (spoiling the market? Please tell me) but she was really GREAT.

Goodbye CTG. Another outstanding memory, and lots of nostalgy which will last a long time.[/QUOTE]Where did you stay?

Sorry, I have to broadcast a PM for Hilltopper: clean up your space! I cannot write you! Your box is full!

[QUOTE=Hioctane; 1473856]That is why I was shocked a couple of months back to hear about a hotel that does not need registration. It's very uncommon. IMO, apartments are the way to go to avoid the "walk of shame" involved with hotels.

You should always go with chicas that have IDs. Make sure they have before you leave to go to your place. I won't even go into why you would want to bring someone back without I'd.[/QUOTE]Maybe I can shed a little light here. I was in Ibague with my novia and we were out on the town with her daughter 6 years old. She was 28 I was 30. We went to the mall, lunch and just hanging out. At the end of the afternoon we stopped by the hotel that Novia and me were going to stay at to register. Daughter was going to stay with Novia's parents. It took like a half hour to register bc of a bunch of questions etc. But I noticed they kept asking if little girl was staying with us? We kept saying no. The truth right? So after we register we are putting our luggage in the room etc. And we were talking and she asked if I noticed all the question? I was like yeah. Whats up with all the hassle. She said child sex abuse is very real in that country and they were probing and asking to protect the child. I was really uneasy after that, stomach started turning. I have a little girl and we hear that stuff on the news and stuff but to be face to face with it in another country was just sad. So I never complain or pushback on the cedula or ID policy I know its for some good I hope.

[quote=ncal2014;1547160]maybe i can shed a little light here. i was in ibague with my novia and we were out on the town with her daughter 6 years old. she was 28 i was 30. we went to the mall, lunch and just hanging out. at the end of the afternoon we stopped by the hotel that novia and me were going to stay at to register. daughter was going to stay with novia's parents. it took like a half hour to register bc of a bunch of questions etc. but i noticed they kept asking if little girl was staying with us? we kept saying no. the truth right? so after we register we are putting our luggage in the room etc. and we were talking and she asked if i noticed all the question? i was like yeah. whats up with all the hassle. she said child sex abuse is very real in that country and they were probing and asking to protect the child. i was really uneasy after that, stomach started turning. i have a little girl and we hear that stuff on the news and stuff but to be face to face with it in another country was just sad. so i never complain or pushback on the cedula or id policy i know its for some good i hope.[/quote]you live in a country (usa) where, once you registered in hotel and you have your room, you can bring whoever guest (except kids of course) without registering or being questioned. you take it for granted at hilton in sfrancisco, but not at hilton or an apt in ctg. that sounds odd to my ears. in usa, you would take it as a privacy violation, should anyone at hilton reception start asking odd questions on who is your guest and why she comes and, yes, does she have a cedula.

i assume everyone reading this forum does not include 6yo kids in the discussion "cedula-or-not", so let me point out some facts.

1) if a girl is **** but looks above 18, and she wants to work p4p, she buys a fake cedula. 50kcop and all purists who insist with "never without a cedula in colombia!" are set. i am personally aware of a number of popular girls in ctg who started to work at usual places when they were 16 or so, and nobody realized that. maybe also someone here who writes "never without cedula!", like it was a condom, enjoyed the company of one of them (and the company of her cedula too).

2) if a girl is **** and looks ****, i assume none here wants to bring her to the room. in such a case, however, the doorman instead of asking the cedula, should simply give a call to the police for a check (there is a post at laguito, and are usually without anything to do).

3) if a girl is or looks well above 18yo, but does not have the cedula (for whatever reason, including having lost it or left at home) , you can go to a motel. 17k / hour. no cedula needed. simple. finish of the hassle.

4) in cartagena, i was asked to exhibit my cedula to pay cash a dress item in a fashion store, for about 80k. apparently, their policy is to not sell items to anonymous people. this makes a good pair with the doorman asking the cedula to my guests at my apt.

in conclusion, all this story sounds a big hypocrisy to me. i am heavily puzzled anytime the doorman stops my guest - in the apartment i rented, not in a hotel! - to examine and register the cedula. i take that as a privacy violation, for me and my guest! she may have a regular life in cartagena, with family, and would be dead if anyone in her street would know she goes with a foreigner tourist. this is not theory. this is exactly the case of my last girl in ctg.

i don't go with kids, with or without cedula. this is the point, not the cedula.
ok, i tend to think that, wherever we go we must follow local rules and way of thinking, so it's ok let's accept this cedula ordeal. but it's really incredible that people, who is happy to come and go from hotels in usa without a single check on guests, in colombia suddenly finds this rule the best way to do.

true you make a very good point. i can totally see how that would be a privacy issue and also a concern with the girl that you were with. point well taken.

[quote=black page; 1547233]you live in a country (usa) where, once you registered in hotel and you have your room, you can bring whoever guest (except kids of course) without registering or being questioned. you take it for granted at hilton in sfrancisco, but not at hilton or an apt in ctg. that sounds odd to my ears. in usa, you would take it as a privacy violation, should anyone at hilton reception start asking odd questions on who is your guest and why she comes and, yes, does she have a cedula.

i assume everyone reading this forum does not include 6yo kids in the discussion "cedula-or-not", so let me point out some facts.

1) if a girl is **** but looks above 18, and she wants to work p4p, she buys a fake cedula. 50kcop and all purists who insist with "never without a cedula in colombia!" are set. i am personally aware of a number of popular girls in ctg who started to work at usual places when they were 16 or so, and nobody realized that. maybe also someone here who writes "never without cedula!", like it was a condom, enjoyed the company of one of them (and the company of her cedula too)...[/quote]

Yesterday one of Benjamin guests died for drug overdose, around 6pm.

Lots of police outside. I doubt this dead guy could be a hint for them to finally stop the drug parties there.

[QUOTE=NCal2014;1547160]Maybe I can shed a little light here. I was in Ibague with my novia and we were out on the town with her daughter 6 years old. She was 28 I was 30. We went to the mall, lunch and just hanging out. At the end of the afternoon we stopped by the hotel that Novia and me were going to stay at to register. Daughter was going to stay with Novia's parents. It took like a half hour to register bc of a bunch of questions etc. But I noticed they kept asking if little girl was staying with us? We kept saying no. The truth right? So after we register we are putting our luggage in the room etc. And we were talking and she asked if I noticed all the question? I was like yeah. Whats up with all the hassle. She said child sex abuse is very real in that country and they were probing and asking to protect the child. I was really uneasy after that, stomach started turning. I have a little girl and we hear that stuff on the news and stuff but to be face to face with it in another country was just sad. So I never complain or pushback on the cedula or ID policy I know its for some good I hope.[/QUOTE]NCal2014, There is simpler explanation. I think your novia mis read the situation. I think the hotel wanted to make sure that you don't have three people in the room. Most in Colombia count anyone that is not an infant.

It was a total riot. I spent a lot on money but I had a great time.

I was tired when I arrived around 6 pm so I called an agency. [url]http://lindisimas.net/[/url] Albert the guy running it now is a decent guy. The standard rate is 200 for 1hr.

Talked to the guy and I told him exactly who I want. I insisted that I will send her back if she is exactly like the picture and I did send the first one away so he knew I am serious.

BTW, the first one begged me to keep her. I felt bad. She was sweet though not my type. Keisy on the website, if it is even her, gained 20 lbs, though still nice but not my type. I paid her taxi fare. She said she will accept lower fee. Sorry.

Anna showed up in exactly 20 min after Keisy left. She is pretty though stil bit heavier than in the pics. Very GFE. Great 1 hr session for 200K.

Went to the watch tower at 9 pm. Nada. Went to cafe Delmar. Nada.

Bought weed right outside cafe del mar. Decent quality. I am not good at rolling so I had him roll it for me.

Went to Isis. The place had been renovated since last time I was there. No cover. Some Girls are cute. There were at least three I would do. I hone din on Lorena. She is beautiful and she knows it. Sweet smile. I did TLN with her and she stayed the next day till 9 am. We went dancing, drinking and shared my weed on the roof top. It was surreal. See the apartment thread.

[QUOTE=Vitrea;1550229]Went to Isis. The place had been renovated since last time I was there. No cover. Some Girls are cute. There were at least three I would do. I hone din on Lorena. She is beautiful and she knows it. Sweet smile. I did TLN with her and she stayed the next day till 9 am. We went dancing, drinking and shared my weed on the roof top. It was surreal. See the apartment thread.[/QUOTE]And how much did you spend for the girl TLN from ISIS?

Multa? And to her?

Tonight I will go to LDV, but most likely I will be with R, my "girlfriend" here. With her, we will go hunting for a 3rd (sorry, not you, I mean a girl).

Most likely, I will be also at Elektra. My last night, I don't want to miss the atmosphere. R does know that.

[QUOTE=Black Page; 1550253]And how much did you spend for the girl TLN from ISIS?

Multa? And to her?

Tonight I will go to LDV, but most likely I will be with R, my "girlfriend" here. With her, we will go hunting for a 3rd (sorry, not you, I mean a girl).

Most likely, I will be also at Elektra. My last night, I don't want to miss the atmosphere. R does know that.[/QUOTE]Cool. I sent you an email.

Hello Vitrea,

I am in Cartagena now and I would like to know if the Lorena you are talking about is the same girl I met last June.

Very attractive light skin with long hair from Bogota? Also pretty decent english if I recall.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Mats Naslund; 1550300]Hello Vitrea,

I am in Cartagena now and I would like to know if the Lorena you are talking about is the same girl I met last June.

Very attractive light skin with long hair from Bogota? Also pretty decent english if I recall.

Thanks[/QUOTE]The Lorena I am talking about is not from Bogota and has medium brown and flawless skin. I did not test her english. Cheers to all the beautiful Lorenas in the world. :=D

Another great day in CTG:

The beach was too windy and just crap. I can't believe people were still hanging out on the beach with sand blowing sideways.

I bailed on the beach and called the escort agent. A fresh 19 yr old was delivered 3 minutes before promised time! Her name Yerlei and she is cute though a bit inexperienced. Did I say she is 19? Any way, she was worth the price and convince but not someone I would go all night with.

Took a nap and went to LDV. I was going to meet my friend Black Page there but I got there too early at 11 PM. It did not turn out bad for me. I had my pick of the fresh hotties and I picked Andrea from MDE. She is petite, speaks english and is very classy. She reads a book a week and she is knowledgeable about local and world politics. Great company. Small package but a perfect body (six pack) with a beautiful face and arresting smile. We went to cafe del mar and then to my apartment. Smoked weed on the terrace and made love on the hammock. She loves rock music and rock ballards. She had a great time picking music. I sent her home at 2; 45 and went to Paprika.

Paprika was happening at 3:30 AM. Carolina got my attention right away. Great figure and I imagined all silicone but turned out that she is all natural! I could not believe it. Another sweet heart. We dirty danced for an hour there and then went home. She stayed till 7 am. She was the 5th one on the hammock and that has to be some kind of record :+D

Just wanted to start with saying I love this forum. All my questions have been answered other than where do I go or whom do a call for good massage other than Playa Hollywood. With or without extras, I like both.

Thanks, B

[QUOTE=BigB23; 1552062]Just wanted to start with saying I love this forum. All my questions have been answered other than where do I go or whom do a call for good massage other than Playa Hollywood. With or without extras, I like both.

Thanks, B[/QUOTE]If you want good massage with HJ, go to the second floor "spa" in hotel El Dorado plaza. They are older and not good looking but friendly. They will give you good massage with an HJ. You probably would not want anything more from them anyway.

There is another place bit out of the Centro and the strip but I have not been to it.

So, haven't been to Colombia in a few years. Really excited to be here. The girls are beautiful and all over the place. I spent all day and night on layover flights but it was well worth it. Met a really cute 2nd year University student on my flight in. Not sure how old that would make her. 18-20 maybe? I didn't ask. We exchanged #'s spent a lot of the time talking about U. S and stuff etc. She is here from MDE with family. Hopefully I will get a chance to hang out with her before I leave.

Next met a cool cabbie older gent Orlando real cool guy. He is supposed to take me on a casa run. Got in to my hotel checked in room is very clean and modern. Security is good. Thanks Juan! Dropped my bags quick shower and headed to LDV. I have read so much about this place. I had to see it. Place was nice. About 10 girls all beautiful. 7-10 IMHO. Had a couple of beers didn't bring one back as I wanted to check street action and Pleyclub. A couple of street girls were out. Nothing special but still very doable. Went to Pley club and there were about 10 girls also. Took one in the room for 200k. For approx 40 min. Very GFE. I had to bring her down from the clouds just a bit before we settled on a final number. She started at 500 USD. Hahaha. We ended at 200k. Still not that cheap but I was ok. She was from Cali- light complexion tall about 5'8" nice and thick reallly banging body and very GFE. Sex for 20 min. 5 min BJ and shower. After that was looking for a street girl to bring back but it was already 4am Mon morning. Streets were empty. So headed back to my room.

Lets see what today will bring! Wish me luck!

Looking for girl friendly apartment close to the action and clean. $800 to $1000 for the week? Can I get something nice in this price range will be there May till May 9. Found 1 with Jaun but it is at the end by the Hilton. Playa Mar 301. Any info on what kind of shape it's in? Seems a little far from everything. Any help would be apprecated. 1 or 2 bedroom.

Anyone in town May 1 till May 9 looking for a wingman to show me the ropes, drinks on me.

[QUOTE=Vitrea; 1552432]If you want good massage with HJ, go to the second floor "spa" in hotel El Dorado plaza. They are older and not good looking but friendly. They will give you good massage with an HJ. You probably would not want anything more from them anyway.

There is another place bit out of the Centro and the strip but I have not been to it.[/QUOTE]I will have to try it out.

Thanks

Today seemed like there was 36 hours in a 24 hour day. But the the day started with me getting to know CTG walking around grabbing food drinks etc. On San Martin ave and other local places. The city is getting packed for Easter week and it shows. Prices unfortunately are also going up and up. So I went to Playa Hollywood and checked out a few girls there. Some guy maybe Tony? He said his name was different kept bringing them over. Anyways I would ask about price etc and get their # and let them know I would think about it and call them back. So I went back to my Apt and called this one from Venezuela that is visiting. She's on mileroticos too. I asked for 2 hours 150k. Short, GFE, huge tits and banging ass, very nice! She came was very GFE which I like and ended up staying 3 hours because I had given her a Victoria secret lotion as a small gift that I brought from the USA Actually that small gesture gave me so much credit with her she left very happy. So then I walk down stairs and the doorman is trying to hook me up with the girl that works at the local storefront. I talked to her for a min tried to bring her upstairs but kept insisting she's not like that. Oh well I offered dinner for tonight I will keep that on the back burnerfor just in case.

So the beach girl calls and thanks me again And I ask her out to dinner. We at this point have a really cool connection lime good friends. I like that. This is about 800pm we head to dinner $40k. And on the way back I ask her to service me again back at my apt. She agrees we agree on 150k again. We end up at my apt about 930pm and she ends up leaving at 130am. Rolled around in the sack 4 times. At this point there is no leche left LOL! So I ask her about who she lives with and she says 3 other girls! Perfect so I say hook me up right! She says she will get jealous. So I say Trio? She agrees. She is planning on bringing one other girls tonight to my apt for drinks and see what happens. Wish me luck!

So at 130 head to Ldv same thing 20 girls all beautiful and ready at 200k not ready to commit. Here I also meet a fellow from Germany so we head to Isis together to check it out. Isis was cool but to dark didn't really make a connection there. Then walked over to Paprika / Electra. There I met a paisa. Very nice and GFE thin nice ass small tits beautiful long blk hair, face was normal. I said 3 hours 150k and if you're tired I have no problem if you stay the night. She agrees. Back at the apt its on I was never able to cum. We tried every position for about 4 hours. Its now 6am. She heads home I head to bed. We made plans for her to come back to my apt today and chill she promised to cook me dinner and make sure I'm eating well. The dinner and stuff is for free we agreed on that. I treated her nice and safe and she appreciates that. Its now 140pm on day#3 going to head to playa hoywood and get this day started. I will repost in a while with pics having trouble uploading from my Iphone.

[QUOTE=DuckmanII;1554892]Anyone in town May 1 till May 9 looking for a wingman to show me the ropes, drinks on me.[/QUOTE]Tried to private message, you need to pay Jackson 19. 95 to recieve. 301 is a nice view, decent location. I have a nice apt those dates that is available, large on Laguito, great price.

[QUOTE=DuckmanII;1554853]Looking for girl friendly apartment close to the action and clean. $800 to $1000 for the week? Can I get something nice in this price range will be there May till May 9. Found 1 with Jaun but it is at the end by the Hilton. Playa Mar 301. Any info on what kind of shape it's in? Seems a little far from everything. Any help would be apprecated. 1 or 2 bedroom.[/QUOTE]Laguito where that apartment is in is a small strip. Playa 301 is ok, basic, clean. A bit old. It is close to LDV and the beach. All the other bars / clubs you would want to go to in El Centro you will need to take a taxi.

Looking for a wingman. So I've been to Costa Rica once DR 3 times. But new to Cartagena. What should I be looking for as far the price structure. LDV charges $20 or $40 USD drink minimum then you take the girl for 150. I heard 100 the lowest after negotiating. Maybe too much. Not sure I like LDV. I'm here until next week Wed if anyone wants to link up PM me I'm in Laguito.

[QUOTE=LocoGringo;1555443]Tried to private message, you need to pay Jackson 19. 95 to recieve. 301 is a nice view, decent location. I have a nice apt those dates that is available, large on Laguito, great price.[/QUOTE]Is Antares 1 Beach Condo available? For May 2 till May 8? Got my plane ticket booked today. 14 hour layover in Panama. Looks like it will be 1 night in Venteo. Then on to Cartagena. Will get there Friday at lunch. Tried to book the place on web site but it would not work.

[QUOTE=NavDude;1555645]Looking for a wingman. So I've been to Costa Rica once DR 3 times. But new to Cartagena. What should I be looking for as far the price structure. LDV charges $20 or $40 USD drink minimum then you take the girl for 150. I heard 100 the lowest after negotiating. Maybe too much. Not sure I like LDV. I'm here until next week Wed if anyone wants to link up PM me I'm in Laguito.[/QUOTE]Yes! LDV is kinda of a hassle. Seems like you go inside to drink then step outside to negotiate. 100k is not bad for LDV girls. A lot of times you can pick up the girls on that same street as they are walking to LDV or leaving LDV. If you meet them at paprika / electra its def cheaper but way later too.

[QUOTE=NavDude;1555645]Looking for a wingman. So I've been to Costa Rica once DR 3 times. But new to Cartagena. What should I be looking for as far the price structure. LDV charges $20 or $40 USD drink minimum then you take the girl for 150. I heard 100 the lowest after negotiating. Maybe too much. Not sure I like LDV. I'm here until next week Wed if anyone wants to link up PM me I'm in Laguito.[/QUOTE]LDV drinks: you have to drink 80, 000 COP before you can take a girl out.

How much for the girl depends on too many variables so I do not want to even discuss that.

[QUOTE=DuckmanII;1555692]Is Antares 1 Beach Condo available? For May 2 till May 8? Got my plane ticket booked today. 14 hour layover in Panama. Looks like it will be 1 night in Venteo. Then on to Cartagena. Will get there Friday at lunch. Tried to book the place on web site but it would not work.[/QUOTE]That apt was owned by Martin, sold, he is no longer in Cartagena. He is a friend of mine who bought my old place, Loco Gringo Cafe, and the website. 301 is a 2 bedroom that Juan has on the ocean, great view. It is a 5 minutewalk to La Dolce. 10 to Hollywood Beach. The one I have is not on the ocean, faces th Laguito and a little closer to the La dolce. Mine is $100 a night for 1 person. Both have wifi, mine a washer / dryer combo. My lease is up on May 15 so just trying to get something before it is over. My email is in the Cartagena apt forum.

A few images from my recent trip.

So I head to the beach and I find the Paisa from last night. All is good. She has a friend with her. She's ok nothing to write home about though. So we head to the beach and the deal is this. I get the cabana but they can use it to chill so I don't lose it when I leave to the apt every now and then. The apt was really close by. So we are all hanging out and drinking and ordering mangos etc. I take a stroll and a lot of good looking girls are there. Made a few connections. I head back to the cabana and hang out with the Paisa girl. I decide to take her with me to Islas del Rosario. So we make a deal. I take her the rest of the day, plus all night, plus the rest of the next day at Islas del Rosario until 7pm. Sealed the deal at 350k. I thought it was ok but realized probably a little high since she took the offer right away. That was pretty much day 3 and 4. Which was nice for me since I had her avail anytime I wanted until the next day at 7pm. The next day and a half was pretty awesome. She finally heads home the next evening. And I venture out again. I take a 2 min walk and a group of chicas get off the bus. I find a light skin blk girl from one of the barrios. 19 years old. We head upstairs for 2 hours at 80k. Very nice no complaints. So its still kinda early so I head out again checked out Tu Candela. Nothing special there. As I head home I find the light skin girl with a friend. 19 years old also. I take the friend upstairs for 50k. And call it a night.

[QUOTE=NCal2014;1557107]A few images from my recent trip.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the relief, the photos help. Looks like you're doing well in Cartagena.

Never been, I always head to Medellin but you're making the place sound inviting.

Rock on bro.

[QUOTE=Socker; 1558125]Thanks for the relief, the photos help. Looks like you're doing well in Cartagena.

Never been, I always head to Medellin but you're making the place sound inviting.

Rock on bro.[/QUOTE]I like Cartagena, but for a short jaunt only.

Fun, but the girls are generally much more professional than you can find about in Medellin and all the constant peddlers gets old, no matter how good you are at ignoring.

Just el humble opinion mio LOL

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1558171]I like Cartagena, but for a short jaunt only.

Fun, but the girls are generally much more professional than you can find about in Medellin and all the constant peddlers gets old, no matter how good you are at ignoring.

Just el humble opinion mio LOL[/QUOTE]Yes the peddlers get old quick! At first I felt sorry for them but then I sat back and watched and they make very good money going from one tourist to another. I was like forget this! I have only been to CTG 2x. Hoping to make it out there 1x time this year. But I am really wanting to go to MDE also. I hear a lot of good stories. What is the avg. Cost for 1 hour In your opinion in MDE? 175k pesos? The reason I like Ctg is bc of the safety factor also. Does Medellin Plaza offer airport pick up?

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1558171]I like Cartagena, but for a short jaunt only.

Fun, but the girls are generally much more professional than you can find about in Medellin and all the constant peddlers gets old, no matter how good you are at ignoring.

Just el humble opinion mio LOL[/QUOTE]I hear you. I feel the same away. I always do a short. 3 day weekend trip to Cartagena before I head to Medellin.

[QUOTE=NCal2014;1558267]Yes the peddlers get old quick! At first I felt sorry for them but then I sat back and watched and they make very good money going from one tourist to another. I was like forget this! I have only been to CTG 2x. Hoping to make it out there 1x time this year. But I am really wanting to go to MDE also. I hear a lot of good stories. What is the avg. Cost for 1 hour In your opinion in MDE? 175k pesos? The reason I like Ctg is bc of the safety factor also. Does Medellin Plaza offer airport pick up?[/QUOTE]Yes, the Plaza offers airport pick up.

Medellin for an hour depends.

Depends on where you are looking for the fun.

At the Plaza, between 100K. 200K pesos, depending on the girl and you.

At casas, much cheaper, at strip clubs, depends on which ones, the high end or low, but more or less between 50k to 200k.

Good luck!

I know the touts can be annoying, but here's a trick I discovered. Lowball them. If something costs 60k, offer him 10k. Most of the time they will get the hint. If not, and they accept your offer, you just got yourself a great deal!

Thanks Ricker. Those numbers def sound favorable. I think my next trip will be to MDE! Anyone with more be greatly appreciated. Of course I have read the forum.

If anyone has stayed there before, it's one of Juan's nicer / new apartment. The elevators are a death trap! I was last there in February. The elevators won't stop at my floor. Sometimes go above my floor. One time in the middle! All my girls were afraid of it. About 9 days ago, some 18 year old kid. Busy texting. Walked into an empty elevator shaft from the 6th floor and fell to his death. My amiga showed me an article online.

Made it to Cartagena after a stop in Panama. Veneto was good. Lots of chicas. Had way to much to drink but did hook up with a fine chica. Prices have come down since my last visit. Girls were asking 100. The last time were asking 200. Headed to LDV tonight. Will let why'all know what I think.

Looking for a wingman.

I have mongered in Cartagena in 2001 and returning there after a hiatus of 13 years. A wingman will be usefull.

I got stopped in the street by some guy trying to sell me the yellow, Adidas Colombia soccer jersey. He said very cheap for me. Only $30. I always wanted one of those, so I half joked. No. Too expensive. 30 mill pesos. He said "no commission for me." I was ready to leave and he quickly agreed. I should have offered him 20 mill!

[QUOTE=Hioctane;1563044]I got stopped in the street by some guy trying to sell me the yellow, Adidas Colombia soccer jersey. He said very cheap for me. Only $30. I always wanted one of those, so I half joked. No. Too expensive. 30 mill pesos. He said "no commission for me." I was ready to leave and he quickly agreed. I should have offered him 20 mill![/QUOTE]No doubt. Why throw away 10 mil pesos? All you did was afforded that guy the means to put meat on the table for a couple of days to go with the rice. You should have just gave him 20 mil, spat on the ground and told him rice is delicious by itself!

These are mostly fake. I have got one surprisingly the quality is good. I don't recall how much did I pay, likely 30K or 40K. The right way is to EDUCATE oneself on prices, quality of merchandise and where and when the transaction occurs. Then you can bargain respectfully and not loose face or being taken for a ride. Prices on Basurto market are lower but hey one has to get there. Same applies for pussynomics.

[QUOTE=Questner;1563208]These are mostly fake. I have got one surprisingly the quality is good. I don't recall how much did I pay, likely 30K or 40K. The right way is to EDUCATE oneself on prices, quality of merchandise and where and when the transaction occurs. Then you can bargain respectfully and not loose face or being taken for a ride. Prices on Basurto market are lower but hey one has to get there. Same applies for pussynomics.[/QUOTE]I think the real ones are over 100k. The quality felt really good.

[QUOTE=Hilltopper;1563170]No doubt. Why throw away 10 mil pesos? All you did was afforded that guy the means to put meat on the table for a couple of days to go with the rice. You should have just gave him 20 mil, spat on the ground and told him rice is delicious by itself![/QUOTE]If he is willing to sell it, obviously he is making money out of it. When the average Colombian makes 20-30k a day, these touts make some living suckering gullible tourists so I won't lose sleep over trying to get the best deal I can. I won't even argue over tipping 50% at a casa "just because" it's only $5!

[QUOTE=Hilltopper;1563170]No doubt. Why throw away 10 mil pesos? All you did was afforded that guy the means to put meat on the table for a couple of days to go with the rice. You should have just gave him 20 mil, spat on the ground and told him rice is delicious by itself![/QUOTE]Damn Hilltopper that's kinda harsh aint it.

How did you like it?

[QUOTE=DuckmanII;1562734]Made it to Cartagena after a stop in Panama. Veneto was good. Lots of chicas. Had way to much to drink but did hook up with a fine chica. Prices have come down since my last visit. Girls were asking 100. The last time were asking 200. Headed to LDV tonight. Will let why'all know what I think.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lmarcone;1563984]How did you like it?[/QUOTE]Never made it past the beach. But will be there tonight for sure.

[QUOTE=DuckmanII;1563985]Never made it past the beach. But will be there tonight for sure.[/QUOTE]I know how you feel. As a recent visitor to CTG and after reading these reports for months. I knew for sure I would be spending the majority of the time picking from the line up at LDV. I mean who could pass up a bar / club full of beautiful working girls. Right? But it went completely different for me. I would spend the day walking Sn Martin Ave in the morning maybe meet a girl here and there. Then head to the beach. Get about 5 contacts. Plus that strip there in El Laguito is full or girls up and down the street. By 11pm I was not as eager to pull one from LDV for 250k + for short time. Almost everytime I went to LDV I would pick up a few numbers or meet them At Electra / Paprika for half the price. In hindsight I should've kept more of a routine. Get a street chica in the AM, head to beach pick up 1 or 2 for daytime fun, nap, head to LDV pick a nice one for TLN or head to Paprika. Thats my gameplan for next time. I regret going to pleyclub, felt like a waste of $$ even though I did love the girl that I chose. Its just too much of a business transaction there. I don't mind paying for drinks it just feels like a complete rip off paying 10usd for a redbull or soda and beer prices are ridiculous. Tu Candela is a nice place to take a girl. And possibly pick another one up for a threesome. Never really paid attention to the girls outside the clocktower. The prices were good but you have to deal with girls that have no cedula or girls trying to snatch your stuff from your apt. The diffrence in price to me just wasn't worth it.

Hope this helps a little, looking forward to hearing about your trip.

I have been told that Paprika is CLOSED permanently. They even removed the sign. Is it true?? Why?? What happened? Why nobody reported anything here?

Without Elektra / Paprika CTG is not CTG anymore for me.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;1571618]I have been told that Paprika is CLOSED permanently. They even removed the sign. Is it true?? Why?? What happened? Why nobody reported anything here?

Without Elektra / Paprika CTG is not CTG anymore for me.[/QUOTE]I was there. Semana Santa. It was open and running. Although I can see how not much money is made. Most guys go in there to pick up a girl and have only a few beers before leaving.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;1571618]I have been told that Paprika is CLOSED permanently. They even removed the sign. Is it true?? Why?? What happened? Why nobody reported anything here?

Without Elektra / Paprika CTG is not CTG anymore for me.[/QUOTE]I was there earlier this month and it was open. Quite busy in fact.

However, I just spoke to a vet there and she said it is indeed closed. I am trying to find the details and will report back.

[QUOTE=Hioctane;1572957]I was there earlier this month and it was open. Quite busy in fact.

However, I just spoke to a vet there and she said it is indeed closed. I am trying to find the details and will report back.[/QUOTE]Hi,

I am coming with a buddy at the end of June for 10 days. Bummer to hear this, if accurate, as I have been talking up this place to my friend about the advantages of going here later in evening and avoiding the expensive earlier take out at LDV. This will be my 3rd trip to CTG and don't recall any alternatives at this late hour. Any suggestions?

[QUOTE=Tomasb;1580896]Hi,

I am coming with a buddy at the end of June for 10 days. Bummer to hear this, if accurate, as I have been talking up this place to my friend about the advantages of going here later in evening and avoiding the expensive earlier take out at LDV. This will be my 3rd trip to CTG and don't recall any alternatives at this late hour. Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]Better brace yourself. At this late hour, strip clubs might still be open but it won't be cheap. You might find them hanging around the normal clubs like Tu Candela but it is going to be difficult. You might be able to get LDV chicas cheaper and earlier because there is no real alternative.

Hey guys,

Any tips for a bar or restaurant that will be televising Colombia vs Japan on Tuesday? I'm hoping for someplace in either the Laguito or Boca.

Thanks

[QUOTE=DriveAllNight;1584023]Hey guys,

Any tips for a bar or restaurant that will be televising Colombia vs Japan on Tuesday? I'm hoping for someplace in either the Laguito or Boca.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Everywhere there is a restaurant or bar. Cartagena action, including work, stops when they are playing. If they win a parade will happen, this is the biggest thing since free blowjobs in Colombia.

[QUOTE=LocoGringo;1584230]Everywhere there is a restaurant or bar. Cartagena action, including work, stops when they are playing. If they win a parade will happen, this is the biggest thing since free blowjobs in Colombia.[/QUOTE]You had me at "free blowjobs" LOL.

So, we're hitting Cartagena July 11-16 and just wondered how we're going to manage with girls with only English speaking?

I can't see where the main action is either as there doesn't seem to be any ROD on Cartagena.

Appreciate any help fellas, and if you're around, beers will be put your way.

[QUOTE=Gringo147;1587947]So, we're hitting Cartagena July 11-16 and just wondered how we're going to manage with girls with only English speaking?
I can't see where the main action is either as there doesn't seem to be any ROD on Cartagena.
Appreciate any help fellas, and if you're around, beers will be put your way.[/QUOTE]Rarely indeed a post deserved a louder RTFF than this one.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;1588170]Rarely indeed a post deserved a louder RTFF than this one.[/QUOTE]If you weren't dyslexic, you may well have understood my post.

[QUOTE=Gringo147;1587947]So, we're hitting Cartagena July 11-16 and just wondered how we're going to manage with girls with only English speaking?

I can't see where the main action is either as there doesn't seem to be any ROD on Cartagena.

Appreciate any help fellas, and if you're around, beers will be put your way.[/QUOTE]Lack of Spanish definitely puts you at a disadvantage. If you hit the beach around El Laguito there should be some English speaking hustler types that can help you out with freelancers. Dolce Vita is also over that way and you can hit that spot at night. I'm sure others have much more information, as I have only been to CTG once, but you may have to go through this section carefully and take notes, which is what I did before I went.

[QUOTE=Tomasb;1580896]Hi,

I am coming with a buddy at the end of June for 10 days. Bummer to hear this, if accurate, as I have been talking up this place to my friend about the advantages of going here later in evening and avoiding the expensive earlier take out at LDV. This will be my 3rd trip to CTG and don't recall any alternatives at this late hour. Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]To answer my own post, it was confirmed to me that Paprika (aka Electra) is indeed closed, perhaps permanently. Something about not having the right documentation or permits to be open. A girl from Pereira, who was hustling me at Cafe Havana, told me this last night. I walked by the street later in evening and nothing was going on.

Upon my arrival at the HOTEL Santa Clara / Sofitel, I was handed a piece of paper by the front desk informing me of their strict policy regarding guests. They are not even allowed in the pool area, much less your room. Though when I came to my room around 2 am, I wondered how the security person could discern if a girl accompanying me was a guest or visitor. As long as they are not dressed inappropriately, I think one could sneak someone in.

The usual action can be found at the clock tower at El Centro. Quite a few ladies trolling the area with some young and attractive girls in the mix along with the usual fuglies. The girl I met at Cafe Havana quoted me 300 k pesos for an hour at a love motel. She also was with a friend who offered a trio for an additional $300 k. Since I was not interested in the second girl (gordita), and only marginally interested in the first chica, I let it pass but wanted to gather some info on current pricing. But if I was interested, I could see negotiating later in week to $200 k for an 1 1/2 hour. This is about $106 USD; not including the hotel price.

Any thoughts from CTG experts one might expect to pay in the above scenario?

How would you experienced Cartagena mongers compare CTG to a place like DR (Sosua)? I have always been tempted by Cartagena, I speak basic spanish and can understand a conversation. I like Sosua because it's closer, cheap accommodations, and GFE has been good. For the value, I think it's great. But I am looking to travel to a new destination this year and have never been to Colombia. I've read a bit on the forums, and from what I can gather Colombia overall might be a little more expensive than DR, but quality of women may be higher (depends on what you're into obviously). I've seen people who visit DR say they love it, and would prefer it over Colombia for various reasons. And then others swear that Colombia cannot be beat. I am curious though if GFE exists or if it's more rare in CTG.

Thanks for the help!

I took a recent trip to CTG and to MDE. Had a great time. Although not the safest of places. Every gringo we ran into (very few), had been robbed. One of them was shot when he refused to part with his watch. LDV is an easy place to hookup with mostly pro and a few semi pro. The beach isn't very nice. No swimming because the hotels dump the sewage right into the water. We met some nice girls on the beach, with the help of the beach hustlers. We went to a few strip clubs, and casas in very questionable neighborhoods, but had great experiences there. Let me know if you guys have any questions.

[QUOTE=Puntz79;1588379]I am curious though if GFE exists or if it's more rare in CTG.

[/QUOTE]I've only been to CTG once so I'm no expert. IMO, in general, there isn't much GFE. I guess one could pay for a GFE, but the cost would probably be much higher than the other place you mentioned. If you are rolling like this dude, you can get it: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNcNMTrg4m8[/URL].

[QUOTE=Beerdrinker;1588387]I took a recent trip to CTG and to MDE. Had a great time. Although not the safest of places. Every gringo we ran into (very few), had been robbed. One of them was shot when he refused to part with his watch. LDV is an easy place to hookup with mostly pro and a few semi pro. The beach isn't very nice. No swimming because the hotels dump the sewage right into the water. We met some nice girls on the beach, with the help of the beach hustlers. We went to a few strip clubs, and casas in very questionable neighborhoods, but had great experiences there. Let me know if you guys have any questions.[/QUOTE]Robbed in CTG or MDE only?

In CTG did you try any bars other than LDV? I will be there in a few months and was looking for bar options.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1588410]I've only been to CTG once so I'm no expert. IMO, in general, there isn't much GFE. I guess one could pay for a GFE, but the cost would probably be much higher than the other place you mentioned. If you are rolling like this dude, you can get it: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNcNMTrg4m8[/URL].[/QUOTE]It is a rental, he said him and his friends (4) rented it. So get some friends to go in with you and you can make a pimp video too. So roll 4 deep.

Thanks Tomas be! For the update in intel there in CTG. A few things caught my attention from your post. So for this hobby an apt is always best. Especially if in El Laguito. Close to LDV close to the beach not far from San Martin ave. Close to groceries, late night food and ATM. I'm thinking you went to Pleyclub. The area there is really shady and you go through a bunch of neighborhoods and for tourists. Just doesn't feel right. Hotels are good for the novias. Apts are always best to bring back the girls at all hours of the night and sometimes more than 1 girl. Thats just my own personal experience. If you could tell us what places were not safe in CTG? Clocktower girls are usually my absolute last resort. I like Paprika but that seems to be closed now so not sure what will turn up next. The pricing you were quotes is very high. I never did TLN but for a few hours 200 k is more than enough. In some cases 80-100 for 1 hour is very doable. Ldv girls are hot! Most of the time 200 k for LDV girls is fine. Just have to be firm with them and take the lead. If she refuses another girl will take the $$. Maybe it will be more packed with Paprika closed. I will be there in Sept. For 2 days only the rest of the week will be novia time. Again thanks for your report. I will also post during my trip.

[QUOTE=BigB23;1588411]Robbed in CTG or MDE only?

In CTG did you try any bars other than LDV? I will be there in a few months and was looking for bar options.[/QUOTE]Robbed in MDE only. I never felt in danger in either city, but I never get extremely intoxicated. I was in CTG for two weeks, and only met one other gringo the whole time I was there. There are tons of bars and clubs mainly in the old city. LDV is the only P4 P club aside from the the casas and strip clubs. LDV is small, expensive, and same girls every night. Although I received GFE if I wanted it.

[QUOTE=NCal2014;1588434]Thanks Tomas be! For the update in intel there in CTG. A few things caught my attention from your post. So for this hobby an apt is always best. Especially if in El Laguito. Close to LDV close to the beach not far from San Martin ave. Close to groceries, late night food and ATM. I'm thinking you went to Pleyclub. The area there is really shady and you go through a bunch of neighborhoods and for tourists. Just doesn't feel right. Hotels are good for the novias. Apts are always best to bring back the girls at all hours of the night and sometimes more than 1 girl. Thats just my own personal experience. If you could tell us what places were not safe in CTG? Clocktower girls are usually my absolute last resort. I like Paprika but that seems to be closed now so not sure what will turn up next. The pricing you were quotes is very high. I never did TLN but for a few hours 200 k is more than enough. In some cases 80-100 for 1 hour is very doable. Ldv girls are hot! Most of the time 200 k for LDV girls is fine. Just have to be firm with them and take the lead. If she refuses another girl will take the $$. Maybe it will be more packed with Paprika closed. I will be there in Sept. For 2 days only the rest of the week will be novia time. Again thanks for your report. I will also post during my trip.[/QUOTE]I did not mention in the above post that the reason I am staying in this hotel is because my friend exchanged a time share in the US for one week at the Hotel Santa Clara. He invited me to join him and since it was no cost, I accepted. I thought there might be problems with bringing guests due to the nature of this hotel and was not surprised to discover their policies. That being said, I do have two extra nights next weekend and I am looking for a place that is GF. Someone on this site mentioned an apartment in El Centro near Bolivar Plaza, which I plan to visit today. Any other suggestions gladly noted.

Last night I went to the Clock Tower area. There were some attractive girls languishing on the benches, mostly engaged in conversations with their girlfriends. I noticed how unaggressive they are with only minimum eye contact. Very mellow scene later in evening though around sunset, most of the people in this area were tourists, children, etc. The girls in the game come much later in evening. I read RTFF on their pricing and around $100 k pesos might be the going rate though that info might be dated. I am looking to take a girl for a few hours to a love hotel (perhaps Las Dunas in Crespo). Does that price seem reasonable or should I expect to pay more for two hours? I suppose, in the end, much of it depends on our negotiating skills and whether the chica needs some cash.

[QUOTE=Tomasb;1588705]I did not mention in the above post that the reason I am staying in this hotel is because my friend exchanged a time share in the US for one week at the Hotel Santa Clara. He invited me to join him and since it was no cost, I accepted. I thought there might be problems with bringing guests due to the nature of this hotel and was not surprised to discover their policies. That being said, I do have two extra nights next weekend and I am looking for a place that is GF. Someone on this site mentioned an apartment in El Centro near Bolivar Plaza, which I plan to visit today. Any other suggestions gladly noted.

Last night I went to the Clock Tower area. There were some attractive girls languishing on the benches, mostly engaged in conversations with their girlfriends. I noticed how unaggressive they are with only minimum eye contact. Very mellow scene later in evening though around sunset, most of the people in this area were tourists, children, etc. The girls in the game come much later in evening. I read RTFF on their pricing and around $100 k pesos might be the going rate though that info might be dated. I am looking to take a girl for a few hours to a love hotel (perhaps Las Dunas in Crespo). Does that price seem reasonable or should I expect to pay more for two hours? I suppose, in the end, much of it depends on our negotiating skills and whether the chica needs some cash.[/QUOTE]It is the Colombian culture. The girls are not very aggressive. You need to make the first move.

[QUOTE=Puntz79;1588379]How would you experienced Cartagena mongers compare CTG to a place like DR (Sosua)? I have always been tempted by Cartagena, I speak basic spanish and can understand a conversation. I like Sosua because it's closer, cheap accommodations, and GFE has been good. For the value, I think it's great. But I am looking to travel to a new destination this year and have never been to Colombia. I've read a bit on the forums, and from what I can gather Colombia overall might be a little more expensive than DR, but quality of women may be higher (depends on what you're into obviously). I've seen people who visit DR say they love it, and would prefer it over Colombia for various reasons. And then others swear that Colombia cannot be beat. I am curious though if GFE exists or if it's more rare in CTG.

Thanks for the help![/QUOTE]If you have never been, you should definitely go. In terms of girls, CTG blows Sosua out of the water (however, I prefer Puerta Plata, Santiago, Santa Domingo over Sosua! Things will definitely cost more (from girls to accommodations). If you like what you see, you should consider going inland to Medellin and Bogota where the girls are much much cheaper, however they don't have the same beach atmosphere of CTG.

[QUOTE=Beerdrinker;1588503]Robbed in MDE only. I never felt in danger in either city, but I never get extremely intoxicated. I was in CTG for two weeks, and only met one other gringo the whole time I was there. There are tons of bars and clubs mainly in the old city. LDV is the only P4 P club aside from the the casas and strip clubs. LDV is small, expensive, and same girls every night. Although I received GFE if I wanted it.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the intel, I can't wait to go.

How small is LDV, I am going for 5 nights, the first two nights with 2 buddies and then the last 3 nights we have 12. Are we going to max out LDV. I have read Paprika is closed. This is our first trip to CTG, we have always gone to San Jose and Jaco (Coral) and there is no shortage of different ladies to try even with 12 in our group plus half of the ladies are from Colombia. So we thought we would go to the source. This forum and the post hot spot map which is awesome has give me my game plan. Playa Hollywood for some daytime action and numbers and then EL Dorado for massages and extras hopefully followed by bars and LDV.

Plus how aggregative do we need be, first move but do these ladies dress apart so we have an idea at the bars, I know LDV is all? With LDV and a few numbers I was hoping these girls would start hooking us up with their friends. We are talking about 40-50 ladies for this trip and I do not like sharing but some of the buddies are known for swooping in as you walk her out for a half price fuck.

[QUOTE=BigB23;1588979]Thanks for the intel, I can't wait to go.

How small is LDV, I am going for 5 nights, the first two nights with 2 buddies and then the last 3 nights we have 12. Are we going to max out LDV. I have read Paprika is closed. This is our first trip to CTG, we have always gone to San Jose and Jaco (Coral) and there is no shortage of different ladies to try even with 12 in our group plus half of the ladies are from Colombia. So we thought we would go to the source. This forum and the post hot spot map which is awesome has give me my game plan. Playa Hollywood for some daytime action and numbers and then EL Dorado for massages and extras hopefully followed by bars and LDV.

Plus how aggregative do we need be, first move but do these ladies dress apart so we have an idea at the bars, I know LDV is all? With LDV and a few numbers I was hoping these girls would start hooking us up with their friends. We are talking about 40-50 ladies for this trip and I do not like sharing but some of the buddies are known for swooping in as you walk her out for a half price fuck.[/QUOTE]LDV is pretty small. Probably the size of the smaller room in the Del Rey. Towards the end of the week there are probably around 50 girls in there. You should each be able to find a girl you like. As for other bars. The working girls are usually standing outside alone or in groups of girls. If they are with guys, they are probably not working girls!

IMO the "massages" in CTG are overpriced rip off. As I recall about 180 k? And the girls are not all that. You could get casa girls in Medellin or Bogota for 30 k!

You should also check out the night time stripclubs ISIS and PleyClub. A little pricy but has some nice girls for a big group.

Also, just walk up and down the strip of Laguito during the early afternoon (2 pm-5 pm) and you'll see no shortage of working girls.

More importantly. Where are you staying and do any of you speak Spanish?

Have a blast and post a report!

[QUOTE=Hioctane;1589179]LDV is pretty small. Probably the size of the smaller room in the Del Rey. Towards the end of the week there are probably around 50 girls in there. You should each be able to find a girl you like. As for other bars. The working girls are usually standing outside alone or in groups of girls. If they are with guys, they are probably not working girls!

IMO the "massages" in CTG are overpriced rip off. As I recall about 180 k? And the girls are not all that. You could get casa girls in Medellin or Bogota for 30 k!

You should also check out the night time stripclubs ISIS and PleyClub. A little pricy but has some nice girls for a big group.

Also, just walk up and down the strip of Laguito during the early afternoon (2 pm-5 pm) and you'll see no shortage of working girls.

More importantly. Where are you staying and do any of you speak Spanish?

Have a blast and post a report![/QUOTE]I was there about two weeks ago for about 5 days and just happened to count the girls in the club because I was curious what the ratio was at the time. This was towards the end of the week of a "Festivo" weekend. At about 1 am in the morning there were about 25 girls in the club and there is always 5 to 10 outside either coming or going or smoking. We were a group of 4 to 5 and there were about 4 to 5 other guys in the club when we were there. I came up with a ratio of about 2 to 3:1 at any given time. The amount of girls was kinda of surprising as my experience had been similar to 40 to 50 as mentioned above.

The beach action was some of the lamest that I had every seen in the 10 years that I have been visiting. There were some LDV girls working the beach, and we met some that worked at some of other club that I had never heard of before. There were only 3 to 4 or LESS at any given time. You can always use that crazy MFR Tony or Jason to call somebody to the beach but that can be a hassle and a half.

We went down to the plaza down by the Clock Tower and it was hard to count the number but there were plenty. We even bumped into a few LDV girls working there.

One thing we learned while we were there, was that the apartment building above the Riquisimo Restaurant houses a bunch of girls. One of the oddest hook ups I have ever seen was by the Waiter of Riquisimo (Dressed like a Colombian Clown for the Soccer Match) help a guy out by brokering a deal with a chica at 11:30 am in the morning. LOL.

I went to the Reloj area last night. There appeared to be more women than the prior three nights and an attractive girl sat next to me on the benches with her friend. I eventually went with her to a short term hotel in El Centro and as it turns out, I had stayed at this hotel as a regular guest several years years ago though their name has been changed. It is now called Sol y Mar and is on the second floor behind a wrought iron gate. The general location direction is to walk up the street that ultimately leads to Plaza Madrid. It is on the left towards the end of the first block. Their rates are $25 k pesos per hour or about $14 USD. The rooms are clean, if small, with clean towels, a/c, tv, and showers.

My chica, named Andrea, was a young 22 year old hottie from CTG with long black hair and a smoking body. A real standout compared to most of what is available in this plaza. After some initial conversation, she first asked for $150 k pesos for an hour and $250 k for two hours. I initially made an excuse to leave to get more cash but returned twenty minutes later and proposed two hours for $200 k or $105 USD, which she accepted. Since, my hotel does not allow guests, I was initially concerned about having to travel outside of El Centro for a short term hotel so it is good to know about the Sol y Mar as an alternative liaison site.

Her services were generally good though with some oddities. She was relatively enthusiastic and provided two pops as to be expected for two hours. However, she did not allow DATY and in fact claimed to have never done this, even with her novio, if she has one. There was no BJ offered, covered or otherwise though I never asked for it but thinking it is not on menu so not sure if she does that either. Needless to say, there was no kissing either. Andrea had several other friends nearby so may try one of her other gal pals later in week who offer more varied services. Nevertheless, the short term hotel option skips the hassle of taking a taxi outside El Centro to find one. I also may get an apartment this weekend inside El Centro and bring more than one over of for TLN.

Overall, it was a relatively hassle free experience with a beautiful girl at a modest price. She even allowed a photo. I had been reluctant to try one of these girls in the Reloj area due to my reading of the board but also the quality seemed to be lacking. Last night was an improvement and now that I know the drill, I may skip LDV entirely. From what I hear and read on this board, I can expect to pay more and receive less.

Great comparison on LDV as the Del Ray smaller room. That helps a lot when I explain it to the guys, they should have an idea of the size and also the ratio post. Our Spanish is OK, maybe half are fluent speakers and the other half including me range from nothing to very broken Spanish. I personal struggle with conversations but determination will make up for that.

Worked with a few owners at the Palmetto to rent a floor, every one wanted their own room and it works out to about $100 per person per night. The owners of the ATPs have promised me our hobby will not be an issue. I did talk to the guy suggested from boards but we had to split up our group across floors and two buildings.

I have a feeling we will be at LDV every night, the easiness of it will win out even if it cost a little more but we will try ISIS and PleyClub and the Centro areas. Street walkers scare me (state side they are all trans) but I will give it a try based off the post. Planning on getting a lot of numbers and hope they bring friends or we hit a gold mine.

Based off want I have read even a smoking hot 9-10 that may start super high 300-400 k but in the end will do a short time for 100-200 k and TLN for 200-300 k. I am always looking for some partying and then 2-3 pops but want them out when I sleep.

That sucks to read about the beach action. I was looking forward to partying on the beach with some chicas, which is always a good time.

A massage is a most no matter where I go but I want a real massage versus a parlour. So Emily on the beach or El Dorado I believe.

Thanks for the help.

[QUOTE=Hioctane;1589179]LDV is pretty small. Probably the size of the smaller room in the Del Rey. Towards the end of the week there are probably around 50 girls in there. You should each be able to find a girl you like. As for other bars. The working girls are usually standing outside alone or in groups of girls. If they are with guys, they are probably not working girls!

IMO the "massages" in CTG are overpriced rip off. As I recall about 180 k? And the girls are not all that. You could get casa girls in Medellin or Bogota for 30 k!

You should also check out the night time stripclubs ISIS and PleyClub. A little pricy but has some nice girls for a big group...[/QUOTE]

Since I enjoyed my most recent foray to the clock tower on Tuesday, I decided to try my luck again last night (see prior report). This time, around 9:30 pm, I sat with a friend of mine at one of the tables in front of Donde Fidel and ordered a few drinks. After about an hour, a nice looking trio of girls took a seat at the adjoining table. Immediately determining, they were in the game, I started to flirt with them and it was not long before my focus went to one chica who looked a bit like Phoebe Cates (Fast Times at Ridgemont High). Her name is Bridget and all three are from Barranquilla. She gave her age as 19. As with the girl noted in my Tuesday report, she quoted $300,000 k pesos for two hours. She claimed to like to kiss, which I immediately assumed was a lie as most of them do not offer this on menu. In CTG, in particular, they seem to be adverse to this level of intimacy.

I countered with $200 k, which she accepted immediately so basically the same price as Tuesday for same amount of time. Unfortunately, the short term hotel (Sol del Mar) I used on Tuesday was full. Even though space was available in a 1/2 hour, the receptionist recommended another 'economical' hotel on same street called Tropicana so we went there. Big mistake! The price at this place was half the Sol del Mar price (30 k) but for good reason. It's a real dump with a non working shower, no tp, tiny room, so would not use in future.

This girl was super hot. Basically a tight little spinner. Once in room, she sat on bed, pulled up her very short skirt and started playing with her unit through her virginal white lace panties and giving me little pouting looks. I started to stroke her gently through her panties but she would not allow some start-up DATY. Later on, I persuaded her to give me some time down there but then she up sold me. First, asking for an additional $50 k for the 'privilege'. I said that I only had $25k additional with me (true) so she relented and seemed to enjoy my little tongue party. Pretty sure she came. And a nice shaved and tasty unit it was...

But she really got into sucking my nipples and multiple positions. Once again, I left a happy man with two excellent sessions. So I consider myself two for two at the Clock Tower. So far, I see no reason to visit LDV but may do so tonight just for comparison sake. However, I doubt if I can get this type of service and quality looking chicas at LDV for the same price as the Clock Tower. Even so, one has to be patient at the Reloj for the right one to come along and it may be a quicker evaluation process at LDV.

I am quite discriminating and patient so it may have paid off. The first three nights in CTG, I did not approach anyone as I saw nothing appealing to me but perhaps it is improving as it gets nearer the weekend. As I have an apartment instead of a hotel this weekend, I may invite the girl from last night and one of her friends to go out to Club Havana or Tu Candela adjourning to my place later in evening. On the other hand, it's tempting to try someone else since there are so many available. It's an amazing cornocupia of selections.

Hope to add one or two more posts by my departure on Monday.

Tomasb, nice reports.

The clock tower area: Were you inside or outside the city walls? I think the benches you speak of are outside but there is a lot of traffic too. The bars must be inside? PM me if you prefer. Thank you.

[QUOTE=Vitrea;1590518]Tomasb, nice reports.

The clock tower area: Were you inside or outside the city walls? I think the benches you speak of are outside but there is a lot of traffic too. The bars must be inside? PM me if you prefer. Thank you.[/QUOTE]Inside the walls but see my PM. Benches may also be outside too but little going on there except people passing through to other locations.

Tomasb,

Glad you are enjoying yourself in the fine city of Cartagena.

Just my two cents, but I think with only a little more effort on your part you can enjoy the same ladies for a little less dinero.

200 k is no bargain, whether it's for one hours or two. So, adjust your thinking and tell yourself that you want to pay 100 k, will go to 150 k only for the right circumstance, but 200 k is the maximum you will pay for a rare stunner.

If you notice in your report you say "I countered with $200 k, which she accepted immediately". Well, of course she accepted immediately, she was probably thrilled to get that much.

They can start out at 3,4,500 k for all we care, what they start at is not important. Tell them you are used to paying 100 k, that you might be willing to pay them 120 k, etc.

Above all, be willing to walk away from any of them that want to play hardball. There are too many other options in Cartagena as you've already noticed.

Glad to hear your comments about pricing. I had asked about rates several days ago but received no responses so had to use my best judgement. For me, these rates are inexpensive when you consider there is no taxi, bar entry fees, and buying drinks.

Both of these girls are stunners so had no problem paying the price and their service was quite superb especially last night. I want the one from last night for TLN on Saturday but will not pay more than the amounts from the prior night for the two hours. If she rejects my offer, I will toss her back and find another.

[QUOTE=TheShadow2;1590552]Tomasb,

Glad you are enjoying yourself in the fine city of Cartagena.

Just my two cents, but I think with only a little more effort on your part you can enjoy the same ladies for a little less dinero.

200 k is no bargain, whether it's for one hours or two. So, adjust your thinking and tell yourself that you want to pay 100 k, will go to 150 k only for the right circumstance, but 200 k is the maximum you will pay for a rare stunner.

If you notice in your report you say "I countered with $200 k, which she accepted immediately". Well, of course she accepted immediately, she was probably thrilled to get that much.

They can start out at 3,4,500 k for all we care, what they start at is not important. Tell them you are used to paying 100 k, that you might be willing to pay them 120 k, etc.

Above all, be willing to walk away from any of them that want to play hardball. There are too many other options in Cartagena as you've already noticed.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tomasb;1590568]Glad to hear your comments about pricing. I had asked about rates several days ago but received no responses so had to use my best judgement. For me, these rates are inexpensive when you consider there is no taxi, bar entry fees, and buying drinks.

Both of these girls are stunners so had no problem paying the price and their service was quite superb especially last night. I want the one from last night for TLN on Saturday but will not pay more than the amounts from the prior night for the two hours. If she rejects my offer, I will toss her back and find another.[/QUOTE]Wanted to add one more thought. Probably 90% of the clock tower girls are subpar with the occasional stunner. Most of the girls are only worth about $100 k pesos or less as has been suggested. Either they have Lots of mileage or are gorditas or just low class. I could probably get even get the rare stunner for $150 k pesos or less depending on their evening traffic. So next time, I will throw out a lesser amount (below $200 k) and see what happens.

After all, all they can say is no.

Good points on the quality side of the equation. Historically, the clock tower was the lowest of the low quality wise, some pretty skanky ones mixed in with below average to average, as well as Trannies.

Seems lately some of the girls that are new to Cartagena are starting out there, that is where some of the quality is coming from. Pros coming and going to TuCandela can be found there as well, generally good quality.

[QUOTE=TheShadow2;1590846]Good points on the quality side of the equation. Historically, the clock tower was the lowest of the low quality wise, some pretty skanky ones mixed in with below average to average, as well as Trannies.

Seems lately some of the girls that are new to Cartagena are starting out there, that is where some of the quality is coming from. Pros coming and going to TuCandela can be found there as well, generally good quality.[/QUOTE]As an update, the first stunner I took to the short term hotel on Tuesday has a friend who was pestering me last night. She (Candy) wanted me to take her to Tu Candela and pay the $10 k cover for her. I declined. Then, she offered me an hour of her time for $100 k and again I declined. She is simply not that attractive plus I smell bad service. Pretty sure she would come down told on that price as The Shadow suggests but if it was free, I would have to think about it. I told her maybe tomorrow, which I will say to her until I leave. Her friend -- my date from Tuesday -- also came by during our conversation. She said 'bastante' to me after our initial greeting. Not sure if that was slang expression with some other meaning as I thought bastante means enough in English. Anyone know another use for this word?

My prop manager suggests that I go with him to Casa Rocio tonight. He says the girls are hot and available for take out for about $250 k for several hours. Anyone familiar with this place?

[QUOTE=Tomasb;1589568]
My chica, named Andrea, was a young 22 year old hottie from CTG with long black hair and a smoking body. A real standout compared to most of what is available in this plaza. After some initial conversation, she first asked for $150 k pesos for an hour and $250 k for two hours. I initially made an excuse to leave to get more cash but returned twenty minutes later and proposed two hours for $200 k or $105 USD, which she accepted. Since, my hotel does not allow guests, I was initially concerned about having to travel outside of El Centro for a short term hotel so it is good to know about the Sol y Mar as an alternative liaison site.[/QUOTE]Hey I know her! I never went with her, but I had long chats with her on the benches of Reloj, along all my visits of the last year to CTG.

She is maybe the best looking among all old regulars at Reloj. I bet she is available for 100 k, but as all experienced ones she can recognize well the smell of plata in the pocket of the tourist, and make a quick estimate of the best price to ask. A good girl indeed.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;1590862]Hey I know her! I never went with her, but I had long chats with her on the benches of Reloj, along all my visits of the last year to CTG.

She is maybe the best looking among all old regulars at Reloj. I bet she is available for 100 k, but as all experienced ones she can recognize well the smell of plata in the pocket of the tourist, and make a quick estimate of the best price to ask. A good girl indeed.[/QUOTE]Yes, she is well known for her service level, even with the locals. She may very well be available for $100 k but I think that would be an hour and one pop. I went with her for 2 hours for two pops though I finished in about an 1 1/2. I bet a lot of tourists accept her opening bid of $150 k pesos without even countering. She was also totally cool about taking her photo in room.

I may throw that $100 k number at her for two hours when it is slower but she appeared very 'preocupada' last night. Her friend, the over the hill MILF, offered to go with me for an hour for that price.

[QUOTE=Tomasb;1590857]As an update, the first stunner I took to the short term hotel on Tuesday has a friend who was pestering me last night. She (Candy) wanted me to take her to Tu Candela and pay the $10 k cover for her. I declined. Then, she offered me an hour of her time for $100 k and again I declined. She is simply not that attractive plus I smell bad service. Pretty sure she would come down told on that price as The Shadow suggests but if it was free, I would have to think about it. I told her maybe tomorrow, which I will say to her until I leave. Her friend -- my date from Tuesday -- also came by during our conversation. She said 'bastante' to me after our initial greeting. Not sure if that was slang expression with some other meaning as I thought bastante means enough in English. Anyone know another use for this word?

My prop manager suggests that I go with him to Casa Rocio tonight. He says the girls are hot and available for take out for about $250 k for several hours. Anyone familiar with this place?[/QUOTE]I am very curious and I would love to hear your thoughts on Casa Rocio.

Personally, my taste in women is quite a bit different from that of the local Colombians. I have seen them describe someone as "hot" and I find them to be a 6 or 7.

10-20 girls, 5-9. I liked two girls there, and paid 150 k for one hour. The chicas were less hard core than LDV. I had some GFE.

[QUOTE=Vitrea;1593790]I am very curious and I would love to hear your thoughts on Casa Rocio.

Personally, my taste in women is quite a bit different from that of the local Colombians. I have seen them describe someone as "hot" and I find them to be a 6 or 7.[/QUOTE].

These photos were from my last and next to last night in CTG. The girl in the skirt (from the first night) is the same as the one in lace panties with her voluptuous friend (from the second night). It was overall a pretty good trio except for the fact that the girl in the skirt quoted me a price that she indicated was for the both of them. It's an age old 'ho' trick. When we were finished, she wanted double the amount originally stated.

I protested and she quickly called the cops without my knowledge. I had to do the perp walk to an ATM at 1 am in the morning with cop and the girls trailing behind. I was told there was no other option except for going to the station. Since I neglected to check I'd's, I decided to pay rather than risk worse repercussions.

The one in the skirt goes by Sophie and can be found hanging around the Reloj. She is from Cali, 19 years, and claims to be a student studying textiles looking to make tuition money. I frankly think it's a ruse. I did not meet her at the Reloj but through a Cartagena acquaintance who, as it turns out, did not know her as well as he thought. He claimed she was a girl who rarely went out. Yeah right! As an identifier, she has a pair of lips tattooed on her butt, which you can see in one of the photos. Rather than the sweet innocent she portrays, she is actually hard-core. By the time you see the tat though, it is too late. LOL.

The other one was simply spectacular. Great kissing with me and her friend, an unbelievable body, DATY, 19 years old from Santa Marta. Never saw her at the Reloj area as the other one recommended her and brought her along for the trio. She was not involved in the upfront negotiations. They both say they live in the same building in Bocagrande. Her attitude seemed a bit hard-core too. Amazing how at 19, these girls are already seasoned veterans.

See photos.

[QUOTE=Tomasb;1594596]These photos were from my last and next to last night in CTG. The girl in the skirt (from the first night) is the same as the one in lace panties with her voluptuous friend (from the second night). It was overall a pretty good trio except for the fact that the girl in the skirt quoted me a price that she indicated was for the both of them. It's an age old 'ho' trick. When we were finished, she wanted double the amount originally stated.

I protested and she quickly called the cops without my knowledge. I had to do the perp walk to an ATM at 1 am in the morning with cop and the girls trailing behind. I was told there was no other option except for going to the station. Since I neglected to check I'd's, I decided to pay rather than risk worse repercussions.

The one in the skirt goes by Sophie and can be found hanging around the Reloj. She is from Cali, 19 years, and claims to be a student studying textiles looking to make tuition money. I frankly think it's a ruse. I did not meet her at the Reloj but through a Cartagena acquaintance who, as it turns out, did not know her as well as he thought. He claimed she was a girl who rarely went out. Yeah right! As an identifier, she has a pair of lips tattooed on her butt, which you can see in one of the photos. Rather than the sweet innocent she portrays, she is actually hard-core. By the time you see the tat though, it is too late. LOL.

The other one was simply spectacular. Great kissing with me and her friend, an unbelievable body, DATY, 19 years old from Santa Marta. Never saw her at the Reloj area as the other one recommended her and brought her along for the trio. She was not involved in the upfront negotiations. They both say they live in the same building in Bocagrande. Her attitude seemed a bit hard-core too. Amazing how at 19, these girls are already seasoned veterans.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tomasb;1594598]See photos.[/QUOTE]Tomas you have a damn good attitude. You call a good night being charged double what you were quoted and having police involved. Having to go to an ATM at 1 am. Nice pictures and info. Your rite about how some of these girls are seasoned by 19-20 years old. Wlll be in CTG in a couple days and will write a report. Although I do not take photos. The tattoos at such a young age always throws up a red flag for me. Though yea by the time you seen the lip tattoos on her ass you were already in too deep!

I'm heading down by myself this weekend if someone wants to hang out.

It's been a few years since my last visit but I knew my way around back then.

I'm fluent in Spanish and am near 50 years old.

I'll probably end up in Boca or Laguito.

Fabone

[QUOTE=Tomasb;1590857]As an update, the first stunner I took to the short term hotel on Tuesday has a friend who was pestering me last night. She (Candy) wanted me to take her to Tu Candela and pay the $10 k cover for her. I declined. Then, she offered me an hour of her time for $100 k and again I declined. She is simply not that attractive plus I smell bad service. Pretty sure she would come down told on that price as The Shadow suggests but if it was free, I would have to think about it. I told her maybe tomorrow, which I will say to her until I leave. Her friend -- my date from Tuesday -- also came by during our conversation. She said 'bastante' to me after our initial greeting. Not sure if that was slang expression with some other meaning as I thought bastante means enough in English. Anyone know another use for this word?

My prop manager suggests that I go with him to Casa Rocio tonight. He says the girls are hot and available for take out for about $250 k for several hours. Anyone familiar with this place?[/QUOTE]Sometimes "bastante" means "plenty" or "alot". It depends on the context she used it in.

Hay bastante gente hoy. There are a lot of people today.

Gano batante plata. I make plenty of money.

[QUOTE=Fabone;1595076]Sometimes "bastante" means "plenty" or "alot". It depends on the context she used it in.

Hay bastante gente hoy. There are a lot of people today.

Gano batante plata. I make plenty of money.[/QUOTE]When she came over to me, while I was talking to the other girl, Andrea said 'bastante' to me. So not sure what it meant in that context. She was friendly to me so it was not said in a negative way.

[QUOTE=Tomasb;1595103]When she came over to me, while I was talking to the other girl, Andrea said 'bastante' to me. So not sure what it meant in that context. She was friendly to me so it was not said in a negative way.[/QUOTE]You got me there. I've heard an abbreviated version "Basta". Which means "Enough". If she did that she might be interrupting your conversation basically saying "Ok, enough talking to her. My turn. " or something like that.

That said, I've never heard bastante used in that context. But I'm still learning too.

Maybe someone else can put their two cents in.

[QUOTE=Fabone;1595185]You got me there. I've heard an abbreviated version "Basta". Which means "Enough". If she did that she might be interrupting your conversation basically saying "Ok, enough talking to her. My turn. " or something like that.

That said, I've never heard bastante used in that context. But I'm still learning too.

Maybe someone else can put their two cents in.[/QUOTE]Using bastante as a greeting makes no sense at all, doesn't compute. If Andrea was referring to the negotiation with her friend, I think in this case it means the 100 k is enough, but no more. She could have said "sufficiente" but that would have meant the negotiation is open to a little more than 100 k. She was telling you nicely that " dude, pay her the 100 k but don't let her talk you into more". Also because she used that particular word it appears there's a little competition or animosity between those two girls. She's definitely not doing her friend a favor.

[QUOTE=Bologna;1595464]Using bastante as a greeting makes no sense at all, doesn't compute. If Andrea was referring to the negotiation with her friend, I think in this case it means the 100 k is enough, but no more. She could have said "sufficiente" but that would have meant the negotiation is open to a little more than 100 k. She was telling you nicely that " dude, pay her the 100 k but don't let her talk you into more". Also because she used that particular word it appears there's a little competition or animosity between those two girls. She's definitely not doing her friend a favor.[/QUOTE]Spanish is my first language. "Bastante" literally means "a lot", "basta" can be used in different ways, like: "ya basta de tonteras! = that's enough nonesense! "Con eso me basta = that's enough for me".

[QUOTE=RicardoMm;1595532]Spanish is my first language. "Bastante" literally means "a lot", "basta" can be used in different ways, like: "ya basta de tonteras! = that's enough nonesense! "Con eso me basta = that's enough for me".[/QUOTE]Yea, that's consistent with what I've experienced. English is my first language so I appreciate your input Ricardo.

[QUOTE=Bologna;1595464]Using bastante as a greeting makes no sense at all, doesn't compute. If Andrea was referring to the negotiation with her friend, I think in this case it means the 100 k is enough, but no more. She could have said "sufficiente" but that would have meant the negotiation is open to a little more than 100 k. She was telling you nicely that " dude, pay her the 100 k but don't let her talk you into more". Also because she used that particular word it appears there's a little competition or animosity between those two girls. She's definitely not doing her friend a favor.[/QUOTE]You picked up on some details that I clearly missed Bologna. Tomasb and I both were confused because you're right. It makes no sense.

Even your scenario makes little sense. I mean just like you said. "She's definitely not doing her friend a favor".

I've never seen a situation like that occur. With the "papaya" mentality of Colombia, I don't think you will either.

Thanks for the comment Bologna. You got me thinking. LOL.

[QUOTE=Fabone;1595595]You picked up on some details that I clearly missed Bologna. Tomasb and I both were confused because you're right. It makes no sense.

Even your scenario makes little sense. I mean just like you said. "She's definitely not doing her friend a favor".

I've never seen a situation like that occur. With the "papaya" mentality of Colombia, I don't think you will either.

Thanks for the comment Bologna. You got me thinking. LOL.[/QUOTE]I rarely make sense, but I try. I once gave a ctg girlfriend a lot of gifts for her birthday, went through a lot of trouble for her on this one. She responded with "Que poco de regalos". I translated this literally and was a little insulted because I thought she expected more and was insulting me. Later I found out that what she was really saying was "a lot of gifts". Go figure.

[QUOTE=Bologna;1596009]I rarely make sense, but I try. I once gave a ctg girlfriend a lot of gifts for her birthday, went through a lot of trouble for her on this one. She responded with "Que poco de regalos". I translated this literally and was a little insulted because I thought she expected more and was insulting me. Later I found out that what she was really saying was "a lot of gifts". Go figure.[/QUOTE]Que poco de regalos. Means in Colombia "Muchos Regalos".

"Pocos regalos" Means: Not Many Gifts.

My two cents.

Kukulkan.

Got a flight out of ATlantic City spirit to ft lauderdsld and on to Cartagena. I love that flight. 720.00 round trip all big front seats except for 1 exit row.

Smooth sailing got into ctg around 1:40 cabb tide 20,000 to languitto unpacked walked fown said Hello, to tony and my favorite massage girl Luce marina. Great girl no massage till tomorrow. Weather was good but a little overcast. Shopped at Olympics now a nap and I will hit walled city.

And ldv also met cab driver Freddy real nice and got party supplies.

To be continued!

Took my nap and headed up to ldv around 11:30. Had made a drink and was finishing it sitting in area outside ldv. Chica approached me her name was Luce daddy (didn't care what she said her name was) she had a nice body offered her 150,000 for a couple hours. She was a great time BBBJ daty kissing a lot of fun. Then I went to bed it's now8:20 am going for a walk.

[QUOTE=YouCan;1596363]Got a flight out of ATlantic City spirit to ft lauderdsld and on to Cartagena. I love that flight. 720.00 round trip all big front seats except for 1 exit row.

Smooth sailing got into ctg around 1:40 cabb tide 20,000 to languitto unpacked walked fown said Hello, to tony and my favorite massage girl Luce marina. Great girl no massage till tomorrow. Weather was good but a little overcast. Shopped at Olympics now a nap and I will hit walled city.

And ldv also met cab driver Freddy real nice and got party supplies.

To be continued![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=YouCan;1596626]Took my nap and headed up to ldv around 11:30. Had made a drink and was finishing it sitting in area outside ldv. Chica approached me her name was Luce daddy (didn't care what she said her name was) she had a nice body offered her 150,000 for a couple hours. She was a great time BBBJ daty kissing a lot of fun. Then I went to bed it's now8:20 am going for a walk.[/QUOTE]Good to see you back again and posting. Have you seen Lina in CTG? I looked for her when I was in CTG couple of months ago and I could not track her down. PM if you prefer.

-Have fun.

No I haven't seen her. She was a great find. I emailed her before my trip but haven't heard back from her. Today beach was packed with family's as usual for a Sunday. Few girls working beach but non interested me. Took nap and walked upto ldv and there was no more then 4 girls in there at 12:50. Never seen it that dead.

[QUOTE=Vitrea;1597279]Good to see you back again and posting. Have you seen Lina in CTG? I looked for her when I was in CTG couple of months ago and I could not track her down. PM if you prefer.

-Have fun.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=YouCan;1597349]No I haven't seen her. She was a great find. I emailed her before my trip but haven't heard back from her. Today beach was packed with family's as usual for a Sunday. Few girls working beach but non interested me. Took nap and walked upto ldv and there was no more then 4 girls in there at 12:50. Never seen it that dead.[/QUOTE]You Can, Sunday was a Colombian holiday, that's why it was dead, Independence Day.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1597392]You Can, Sunday was a Colombian holiday, that's why it was dead, Independence Day.[/QUOTE]The holiday may be the reason it was dead. However, a Colombian acquaintance who lives there told me a few weeks ago that LDV has been experiencing slow business for a while. Maybe their new and greedy price structure (buying X amount of drinks etc.) has finally caught up to them.

As many times as I been to ldv I honestly don't know what there price structure is. I always buy a big bottle of rum and all the mixers come with it. I always tip the 2 guys at door on my way out 10,000 peso each.

Never had a problem.

Hopefully tonight be good. I post in morning.

Thanks for letting me know about holiday. I know Sundays at club could be slow but that was brutal. Should have put more effort into beach work that day.

[QUOTE=Tomasb;1597487]The holiday may be the reason it was dead. However, a Colombian acquaintance who lives there told me a few weeks ago that LDV has been experiencing slow business for a while. Maybe their new and greedy price structure (buying X amount of drinks etc.) has finally caught up to them.[/QUOTE]

Went to ldv last night and it's dead. Picked up Carolina really nice. But club maybe 10 girls 3 guys place is dead. I was here 3 months ago it was fine. Don't know what happened but it's not good.

[QUOTE=YouCan;1597670]As many times as I been to ldv I honestly don't know what there price structure is. I always buy a big bottle of rum and all the mixers come with it. I always tip the 2 guys at door on my way out 10,000 peso each.

Never had a problem.

Hopefully tonight be good. I post in morning.

Thanks for letting me know about holiday. I know Sundays at club could be slow but that was brutal. Should have put more effort into beach work that day.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=YouCan;1597863]Went to ldv last night and it's dead. Picked up Carolina really nice. But club maybe 10 girls 3 guys place is dead. I was here 3 months ago it was fine. Don't know what happened but it's not good.[/QUOTE]As previously noted, I was told by locals it is not happening at LDV anymore plus Elektra is closed, probably for good. On my recent trip to CTG, I preferred hanging around Plaza Reloj (Coches) as it was a pretty mellow scene. After 10 pm, the girls start coming. For the most part, the talent is below par that you would find in LDV so you have to be patient and wait or hope for the odd gem. Obviously, more vetting is required and nearby short term hotels are better options unless you know or trust the girl.

Perhaps, LDV will be better as it gets closer to weekend so let us know. If it is dead next weekend, that would speak volumes.

[QUOTE=Tomasb;1597890]As previously noted, I was told by locals it is not happening at LDV anymore plus Elektra is closed, probably for good. On my recent trip to CTG, I preferred hanging around Plaza Reloj (Coches) as it was a pretty mellow scene. After 10 pm, the girls start coming. For the most part, the talent is below par that you would find in LDV so you have to be patient and wait or hope for the odd gem. Obviously, more vetting is required and nearby short term hotels are better options unless you know or trust the girl.

Perhaps, LDV will be better as it gets closer to weekend so let us know. If it is dead next weekend, that would speak volumes.[/QUOTE]LDV is usually best Wed-Fri. Saturday the girls are out partying usually with guys that they met earlier in the week.

Hey,

What's going on guys?

Making my way back to Colombia in 5 years. It will be my first time in Cartagena. I been to Medellin and Cali quite bit of times. So Cartagena is new to me.

As far as accommodations is concern, Is wall city or old town a good place to stay?? That is close to all regular non pro clubs, restaurants and shopping? How long is a taxi ride to LDV? Are there plenty of strip clubs in old town area?

One of my friend is going to Cartagena mainly for the pros! You think its best for him to stay near LDV in Bocagrande / Laguito?

Thanks, let me know.

Cheers!

[QUOTE=Jergens007;1598569]Are there plenty of strip clubs in old town area?
[/QUOTE]Plenty. Just RTFF and you'll learn all details.

Anymore updates on how LDV has been the past couple days? I'll probably be in Cartagena from August 6 to 10, first time back there in probably a year and a half, hopefully things haven't gone to complete shit!

Besides LDV and and with Paprika shutting down, are there any other bars that have picked up the freelance p4 p scene? Any good traction at Tu Candela, Babar or Fragma as of late? Thanks!

Went 5 days in mid-July. Took a Colombian girlfriend for 3 days and explored the hobby action for 2 days. Here is my report.

Hobby action (pro).

There are many places to find women.

Playa Hollywood.

Some girls go there when they got nothing to do or when they do not have hungover from the day before. Every day is different. One day you can find more girls (10 approx) and another day there are less (2 to none). It depends on luck, I guess. I noticed that there are many families on both Saturdays and Sundays, which makes it difficult to find women. I went there on a Wednesday and saw many available girls. How to identify available women? Easy, women alone or in groups. If you see a nice woman with a gringo, chances are she is busy. Another way to find women is to ask a guy named Tony to bring them to you. He knows all women at the beach. As soon as he sees a working girl at the beach, she is on his radar. I will talk about this guy Tony later. Quality of women varies. I never found a 10. However, I saw a couple of doable (7-8). Prices at the beach varies. Average is 100,000 pesos = 50 USD approx.

How is the game at the beach? Well, you can sit down, pay for chairs and umbrella and ask Tony to bring women to you. You can also just walk and talk to the girls that you see available, with no Tony involved (cheaper and I did this). You can also bring your drinks in a case / cooler (I tried but it was a nuisance to find a cooler). You can also ask Tony to bring drinks to you (I do not recommend this). You can also just walk without drinks, talk to girls and take them to another place for drinks (I did this).

Tony. This is one of the sons of the devil. He is a dark overweight Colombian. He is extremely extrovert. He is kind of the leader in the only kiosk / bar in the section of the beach where women hang around. As soon as you walk, he will see you and come to you. He sees everything on the beach. He speaks English. He uses lots of bad words. He is dirty. Never shake his hand or wash your hand immediately if you do it. I saw him sneeze in his hand, spit on his hand, etc. It is a gross guy. He will try to get as much money as he can from you. Anything that he does, he will charge you for it. If he brings you a drink, he will add a lot on top of the normal price (almost triple or more). He will drink beers and make you pay for them. Be careful with this guy. I was well informed before dealing with him and kind of knew how to deal with him. I sat down at the kiosk / bar at the beach and analysed this son of the devil. If you go for a session with a girl he introduces to you, he will get a commission (I think 20,000 pesos = 10 USD approx. , not really sure). Would I use Tony? Maybe just to introduce girls to me if I do not see any available. If a nice girl is at the beach even with someone, he will get there and bring her to you. One day I walked on the beach and did not see girls, asked Tony and I do not know where he brought like 6 sitting on the beach which I had not seen. He knows exactly where is everyone sitting.

Additional comments. I saw police presence at the beach and never saw a robbery. The beach is not nice. Not nice water, not nice sand. It is very hot. I found that the best time to hit the beach is 4-6 pm since there is less heat. However, women might be busy at that time. It depends on the luck. Another comment: Playa Hollywood is comprised of two sections: 1 for pro-girls and 1 for gays. Ensure you get a chair in the section which best suits your taste.

La Dolce Vita (LDV).

It is a bar with beautiful working freelancers girls. Quantity is about 20-30 girls. Quality is from 7 to 10. I saw like three 10's. Usually, there are more women than men. Best time to hit this place is 11-12:30. After 1 AM it starts to slow down. At 12 it is at its peak. I met 3 girls at this place. Saw more than 5 that I would do. Prices vary, it usually starts at 300,000 pesos = 150 USD. Prices of the drinks are similar to north America. E. g. , beer 7,000 pesos, rum and coke 7,500 pesos, shot of fine aguardiente 12,000 pesos.

Torre del Reloj (clock tower).

This is an open area, like a mini square. There are benches. There are lots of girls. Quality is usually not good, although you can find a hidden gem, if you are patient. Re: quality, I saw many 4-7 and a couple of 9's. Prices are cheap here (100,000 pesos = 50 USD). There are also lots of bums and bad Colombians males. There is also kind of strong police presence. Safety seems to be under control before 4 AM. After 4 AM it can get dangerous since the police leaves. Girls are even scared to be there after 4 am.

Tu Candela.

Rumor has it that there are freelancers in this place. It is a bar / club with the best atmosphere, in my opinion. I went to 3 other places (Mr. Babillia, Fragma, etc.) and Tu Candela had the best atmosphere. However, there are more men than women. I saw mixed groups and only a few women (4?) in groups of 2. I met a woman outside Tu Candela and told me that there are freelancers in this club but most times men meet them there and immediately start the party with them. Likewise, men meet women at another place and invite them to party to Candela. I never got lucky here because all women were busy with men. Note: no single women are allowed in this place (there are exceptions of course) and many of the girls outside in the clock tower are not allowed to get in. It seems that the owner has a strong policy. He allows only good quality freelancers (this is what a girl I took told me). BTW, I did not pay cover charge to get in (2 nights) and women have to pay like 20,000 pesos = 10 USD. Weird, huh?

Additional places to find women.

Some colleagues mentioned in this forum that sometimes you can find women walking by the main street San Martin in the Bocagrande area or in the Laguito area. I walked in San Martin from 6 to 8 pm and really enjoyed the walk. Lots of regular people, coffee shops, restaurants, buses for tourist, etc. I saw beautiful girls (Non Pro) in a very nice Colombian coffee shop named Juan Valdez. But I did not see PRO girls in San Martin, maybe I was not lucky. However, I walked on the main street during the day in the Laguito area and yes I saw working girls and even talked to some of them and got some numbers. Next time, I would walk, find a small bar / restaurant by the street, sit down, grab a beer and watch women walking by. BTW, a working girl told me that some women go to a place named Cafe Napoleon after the beach to find gringos; however, I could not find it.

Women in general.

Are Colombian women beautiful? Yes, but obviously not all women. Are they the most beautiful? I am not sure. I have seen beautiful girls in north America as well. I have been to Cuba, Costa Rica, Brazil and now Colombia. I have seen beautiful girls in all those places. I like curvy. I think maybe Cubans, Jamaicans, Caribbeans and north American tend to be more curvy, Brazilians in second. Do Colombian women provide good service? Well, I got nice service, not the best but nice service. Maybe Brazilian and some north American women have provided me the best service. But north American women are expensiveBTW, I find incredible that pro girls are very cheap in Latin / South America compared to north America (100 USD in South America to 500 USD in north America for a 9-10 girl). Anyways, I will post in different forum my comparison of hobbying in all those places.

Note: my Colombian girlfriend told me that both Colombian and Venezuelan women are very horny. They love sex. They talk about sex. They cheat on their husbands / boyfriends. She even told me that her neighbour (married regular family female) lets another neighbour fuck her while for some $ while his husband is working. Anyways, funny stories she told me. Conclusion: those women are horny, which I like very much)).

Hotels.

I stayed at Dann. It was ok. Service was good. It is the only hotel with direct access to Playa Hollywood and free chairs and umbrellas. However, the hotel is not chica friendly at all. They are very strict and I understand. It is a family oriented hotel. I saw many families with little kids. What I did for hobby was I used a short term hotel named Sol why Mar just a few steps from Tu Candela and the clock tower. I paid 30,000 pesos = 15 USD for 1 hour which was enough. Do not expect a nice hotel, though. Just the necessary. There are more short term hotels. Just ask the girl or the taxi driver. They all know them. Next time, I might use an apartment if I want to spend more time with a pro and have a GFE. But if you just want short term, a short term hotel will do.

Restaurants.

You can find very nice restaurants. I went to a French named Restaurante 1621 and it is one of the best restaurants I have ever been to. You can use trip advisor to find good ones. There are also low profile restaurants. I also mentioned a very nice Colombian Coffee shop named Juan Valdez where you can see regular people. I saw beautiful girls here. BTW, before you leave your country ensure you get vaccinations. I got stomach flu down there. I do not know what I ate or if it was the ice in my rums.

Cartagena, the city.

I liked downtown Cartagena very much. I like the architecture. It is very small though. I think in 2 hrs you can walk and know everything. I liked the atmosphere. It was nice to see regular people walking on the streets. I liked the live music on the streets as well. If you meet a nice girl, it is a nice idea to bring her down there for an evening. I also felt safe except when I went out of a short term hotel at 5 am.

Safety.

I was really afraid of going to Colombia for a number of reasons. However, I felt very safe in Cartagena. Lots of police presence, maybe that's why. Kudos to the mayor of Cartagena and the Colombian government for this. It is hard to balance prostitution and safety. Well, this place does it. I hope our first world leaders learn the positive aspects of this hobby model. It is the place in my list for hobby where I have felt the safest.

Would I repeat? Mmmmmmmm. Not in the short run.

Nice report and I can agree on virtually everything you said. I think, however, that I paid more for the short term hotel at Sol why Mar than you so perhaps it depends on how busy they are or how hot your girl is. LOL.

Much has been written about the infamous Tony on this board but you just updated for everyone that nothing has changed with that guy. I never like to go to Playa Hollywood for the reasons you mentioned and never had the misfortune to meet him since I avoid the place. It is hot, dirty, and generally crowded. Plus, I only saw skanky girls when I went.

One part of El Centro I enjoy is strolling the streets during the day. Many beautiful woman who are not on the make, lots of energy, and an overall good vibe.

It's true about Tu Candela and also Havana Club that they are quite discriminating about what girls are allowed in. On my last visit, I did meet two chicas of middling quality in the Havana Club. They wanted $600 k for the two of them but were trying to be quite discrete about it. Both from the coffee axis region. I passed but pretty sure they get business out of there.

[QUOTE=Cerevro;1601332]Went 5 days in mid-July. Took a Colombian girlfriend for 3 days and explored the hobby action for 2 days. Here is my report.

Hobby action (pro).

There are many places to find women.

Playa Hollywood.

Some girls go there when they got nothing to do or when they do not have hungover from the day before. Every day is different. One day you can find more girls (10 approx) and another day there are less (2 to none). It depends on luck, I guess. I noticed that there are many families on both Saturdays and Sundays, which makes it difficult to find women. I went there on a Wednesday and saw many available girls. How to identify available women? Easy, women alone or in groups. If you see a nice woman with a gringo, chances are she is busy. Another way to find women is to ask a guy named Tony to bring them to you. He knows all women at the beach. As soon as he sees a working girl at the beach, she is on his radar. I will talk about this guy Tony later. Quality of women varies. I never found a 10. However, I saw a couple of doable (7-8). Prices at the beach varies. Average is 100,000 pesos = 50 USD approx.

How is the game at the beach? Well, you can sit down, pay for chairs and umbrella and ask Tony to bring women to you. You can also just walk and talk to the girls that you see available, with no Tony involved (cheaper and I did this). You can also bring your drinks in a case / cooler (I tried but it was a nuisance to find a cooler). You can also ask Tony to bring drinks to you (I do not recommend this). You can also just walk without drinks, talk to girls and take them to another place for drinks (I did this).

Tony. This is one of the sons of the devil. He is a dark overweight Colombian. He is extremely extrovert. He is kind of the leader in the only kiosk / bar in the section of the beach where women hang around. As soon as you walk, he will see you and come to you. He sees everything on the beach. He speaks English. He uses lots of bad words. He is dirty. Never shake his hand or wash your hand immediately if you do it. I saw him sneeze in his hand, spit on his hand, etc. It is a gross guy. He will try to get as much money as he can from you. Anything that he does, he will charge you for it. If he brings you a drink, he will add a lot on top of the normal price (almost triple or more). He will drink beers and make you pay for them. Be careful with this guy. I was well informed before dealing with him and kind of knew how to deal with him. I sat down at the kiosk / bar at the beach and analysed this son of the devil. If you go for a session with a girl he introduces to you, he will get a commission (I think 20,000 pesos = 10 USD approx. , not really sure). Would I use Tony? Maybe just to introduce girls to me if I do not see any available. If a nice girl is at the beach even with someone, he will get there and bring her to you. One day I walked on the beach and did not see girls, asked Tony and I do not know where he brought like 6 sitting on the beach which I had not seen. He knows exactly where is everyone sitting.

Additional comments. I saw police presence at the beach and never saw a robbery. The beach is not nice. Not nice water, not nice sand. It is very hot. I found that the best time to hit the beach is 4-6 pm since there is less heat. However, women might be busy at that time. It depends on the luck. Another comment: Playa Hollywood is comprised of two sections: 1 for pro-girls and 1 for gays. Ensure you get a chair in the section which best suits your taste.

La Dolce Vita (LDV).

It is a bar with beautiful working freelancers girls. Quantity is about 20-30 girls. Quality is from 7 to 10. I saw like three 10's. Usually, there are more women than men. Best time to hit this place is 11-12:30. After 1 AM it starts to slow down. At 12 it is at its peak. I met 3 girls at this place. Saw more than 5 that I would do. Prices vary, it usually starts at 300,000 pesos = 150 USD. Prices of the drinks are similar to north America. E. g. , beer 7,000 pesos, rum and coke 7,500 pesos, shot of fine aguardiente 12,000 pesos.

Torre del Reloj (clock tower).

This is an open area, like a mini square. There are benches. There are lots of girls. Quality is usually not good, although you can find a hidden gem, if you are patient. Re: quality, I saw many 4-7 and a couple of 9's. Prices are cheap here (100,000 pesos = 50 USD). There are also lots of bums and bad Colombians males. There is also kind of strong police presence. Safety seems to be under control before 4 AM. After 4 AM it can get dangerous since the police leaves. Girls are even scared to be there after 4 am.

Tu Candela.

Rumor has it that there are freelancers in this place. It is a bar / club with the best atmosphere, in my opinion. I went to 3 other places (Mr. Babillia, Fragma, etc.) and Tu Candela had the best atmosphere. However, there are more men than women. I saw mixed groups and only a few women (4?) in groups of 2. I met a woman outside Tu Candela and told me that there are freelancers in this club but most times men meet them there and immediately start the party with them. Likewise, men meet women at another place and invite them to party to Candela. I never got lucky here because all women were busy with men. Note: no single women are allowed in this place (there are exceptions of course) and many of the girls outside in the clock tower are not allowed to get in. It seems that the owner has a strong policy. He allows only good quality freelancers (this is what a girl I took told me). BTW, I did not pay cover charge to get in (2 nights) and women have to pay like 20,000 pesos = 10 USD. Weird, huh?

Additional places to find women.

Some colleagues mentioned in this forum that sometimes you can find women walking by the main street San Martin in the Bocagrande area or in the Laguito area. I walked in San Martin from 6 to 8 pm and really enjoyed the walk. Lots of regular people, coffee shops, restaurants, buses for tourist, etc. I saw beautiful girls (Non Pro) in a very nice Colombian coffee shop named Juan Valdez. But I did not see PRO girls in San Martin, maybe I was not lucky. However, I walked on the main street during the day in the Laguito area and yes I saw working girls and even talked to some of them and got some numbers. Next time, I would walk, find a small bar / restaurant by the street, sit down, grab a beer and watch women walking by. BTW, a working girl told me that some women go to a place named Cafe Napoleon after the beach to find gringos; however, I could not find it.

Women in general.

Are Colombian women beautiful? Yes, but obviously not all women. Are they the most beautiful? I am not sure. I have seen beautiful girls in north America as well. I have been to Cuba, Costa Rica, Brazil and now Colombia. I have seen beautiful girls in all those places. I like curvy. I think maybe Cubans, Jamaicans, Caribbeans and north American tend to be more curvy, Brazilians in second. Do Colombian women provide good service? Well, I got nice service, not the best but nice service. Maybe Brazilian and some north American women have provided me the best service. But north American women are expensiveBTW, I find incredible that pro girls are very cheap in Latin / South America compared to north America (100 USD in South America to 500 USD in north America for a 9-10 girl). Anyways, I will post in different forum my comparison of hobbying in all those places.

Note: my Colombian girlfriend told me that both Colombian and Venezuelan women are very horny. They love sex. They talk about sex. They cheat on their husbands / boyfriends. She even told me that her neighbour (married regular family female) lets another neighbour fuck her while for some $ while his husband is working. Anyways, funny stories she told me. Conclusion: those women are horny, which I like very much)).

Hotels.

I stayed at Dann. It was ok. Service was good. It is the only hotel with direct access to Playa Hollywood and free chairs and umbrellas. However, the hotel is not chica friendly at all. They are very strict and I understand. It is a family oriented hotel. I saw many families with little kids. What I did for hobby was I used a short term hotel named Sol why Mar just a few steps from Tu Candela and the clock tower. I paid 30,000 pesos = 15 USD for 1 hour which was enough. Do not expect a nice hotel, though. Just the necessary. There are more short term hotels. Just ask the girl or the taxi driver. They all know them. Next time, I might use an apartment if I want to spend more time with a pro and have a GFE. But if you just want short term, a short term hotel will do.

Restaurants.

You can find very nice restaurants. I went to a French named Restaurante 1621 and it is one of the best restaurants I have ever been to. You can use trip advisor to find good ones. There are also low profile restaurants. I also mentioned a very nice Colombian Coffee shop named Juan Valdez where you can see regular people. I saw beautiful girls here. BTW, before you leave your country ensure you get vaccinations. I got stomach flu down there. I do not know what I ate or if it was the ice in my rums.

Cartagena, the city.

I liked downtown Cartagena very much. I like the architecture. It is very small though. I think in 2 hrs you can walk and know everything. I liked the atmosphere. It was nice to see regular people walking on the streets. I liked the live music on the streets as well. If you meet a nice girl, it is a nice idea to bring her down there for an evening. I also felt safe except when I went out of a short term hotel at 5 am.

Safety.

I was really afraid of going to Colombia for a number of reasons. However, I felt very safe in Cartagena. Lots of police presence, maybe that's why. Kudos to the mayor of Cartagena and the Colombian government for this. It is hard to balance prostitution and safety. Well, this place does it. I hope our first world leaders learn the positive aspects of this hobby model. It is the place in my list for hobby where I have felt the safest.

Would I repeat? Mmmmmmmm. Not in the short run.[/QUOTE]

Would you guys recommend getting a normal hotel (likely not girl-friendly) and just visit short-term hotels with a chica? I have read that apartments are recommended, but I am so used to staying at hotels and getting service etc.

I am planning on visiting in the next couple weeks for 3 days. Not much time, but honestly. Being in North America, I always feel that any place on this side of the hemisphere, if the sole or primary reason for travel is for mongering than the 3 day plan is usually sufficient. I was concerned about safety in Colombia at first. Just like I was extremely concerned about safety in Buenos Aires, Sosua, Santo Domingo, St. Maarten, Barcelona, Amsterdam, etc. But from everything I have read, it appears Cartagena is extremely safe and as long as you use common sense and do not flash wealth, or get drunk, and put yourself in a situation to be taken advantage of. Then there is not much to worry about. Correct?

My spanish is still basic, although I am able to understand fairly well and I'm getting better at speaking. I've read that Cartagena is probably better for basic spanish speakers than a place like Bogota or Medellin, where the basic level will not suffice. If anyone can confirm or share their experiences if they are basic spanish speakers, that would be much appreciated!

[QUOTE=Puntz79;1601416]My spanish is still basic, although I am able to understand fairly well and I'm getting better at speaking. I've read that Cartagena is probably better for basic spanish speakers than a place like Bogota or Medellin, where the basic level will not suffice. If anyone can confirm or share their experiences if they are basic spanish speakers, that would be much appreciated![/QUOTE]It sounds like you have enough Spanish to monger in the other cities in Colombia. Even if you use 2-3 word sentences to communicate ideas, this should be enough. It sounds like you are at this level or above. Tell the girls to speak slowly and stop after every 10 words if needed. Also, tell them to use basic Spanish words when speaking with you.

Colombian women are some of the most attention deficit in the world. Colombia is a YMMV mongering destination in a big way. Intelligence is rewarded and stupidity is penalized. You have to assert yourself and "push" these girls to respect the things that are important to you. If you can do this successfully, you will love mongering in Colombia. If you can't, you will experience the selfishness of Colombian woman and will wish you were just about anywhere else. Colombia is just this simple IMHO.

I rather like the idea of the short term hotel. My experience with the chicas in Torre de Reloj suggests that they are not into TLN anyway and are more interesting in churning clients, plus might be expected home at some point in the early morning hours. Not to mention you will not be concerned with things missing in your hotel room.

As far as safety, El Centro has to be one of the safest destinations in all of South America tourist spots IMO. This is not so much to protect devotees of our hobby, but to protect normal tourists and their families. Before 10 pm, this particular plaza is awash with tourists embarking on horse coach rides, evening strolls, etc. But as the other recent post mentioned, I would not want to be in this area after 4 am.

You can survive with minimum Spanish as long as a situation does not demand that you speak more fluently and sometimes that can happen in post or pre negotiations. You could always insist that the price and terms (I. E. Number of times / duration) are typed into your cellphone to ensure no misunderstanding. Sometimes girls will type the price in their phone but just try to retrieve that information from them later. Most police I have encountered do not speak English and the same definitely holds true for the chicas. In LDV, some girls speak English, though this suggests a certain level of professionalism for better or worse.

[QUOTE=Puntz79;1601416]Would you guys recommend getting a normal hotel (likely not girl-friendly) and just visit short-term hotels with a chica? I have read that apartments are recommended, but I am so used to staying at hotels and getting service etc.

I am planning on visiting in the next couple weeks for 3 days. Not much time, but honestly. Being in North America, I always feel that any place on this side of the hemisphere, if the sole or primary reason for travel is for mongering than the 3 day plan is usually sufficient. I was concerned about safety in Colombia at first. Just like I was extremely concerned about safety in Buenos Aires, Sosua, Santo Domingo, St. Maarten, Barcelona, Amsterdam, etc. But from everything I have read, it appears Cartagena is extremely safe and as long as you use common sense and do not flash wealth, or get drunk, and put yourself in a situation to be taken advantage of. Then there is not much to worry about. Correct?

My spanish is still basic, although I am able to understand fairly well and I'm getting better at speaking. I've read that Cartagena is probably better for basic spanish speakers than a place like Bogota or Medellin, where the basic level will not suffice. If anyone can confirm or share their experiences if they are basic spanish speakers, that would be much appreciated![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Cerevro;1601332]Tu Candela.

... Note: no single women are allowed in this place (there are exceptions of course) and many of the girls outside in the clock tower are not allowed to get in. It seems that the owner has a strong policy. He allows only good quality freelancers (this is what a girl I took told me). BTW, I did not pay cover charge to get in (2 nights) and women have to pay like 20,000 pesos = 10 USD. Weird, huh?[/QUOTE]My experience is from a Sunday night in early October 2013, maybe not totally reflective now but I seem to have witnessed what you described.

I met this pair of girls (one English speaker, one none) and they invited me to party to Tu Candela, I got a bottle, then we all went to the short term hotel (love motel as I would call it).

I imagine no single girls not being allowed is due to the place being a fairly small one (as far as I remember, at least the second floor) and no point overcrowding the place with girls not buying single drinks, when instead you could get the rich bottle opening clientèle. Obviously this is just my two cents.

I'm looking to travel to Cartagena next weekend, would be my first time in Colombia! I have a couple questions and would appreciate any advice:

I'm flying with Avianca from the US and have a change of flights in Bogota. How is transiting in Bogota? Do I have to collect my checked-in luggage and drop off? How bad is the wait in passport control / immigration? My flight arrives in Bogota around 7:15 PM. The time between flights is about 2 and half hours. It's my first experience with airports in Bogota, I've read about arriving early for international flights by as much as 3-4 hours and the lengthy process and security checks. But do not know how transiting through Bogota is and what it entails.

Hotel suggestions. I'm going with the strategy of staying at a regular hotel for my first time and taking a girl to love motels for short time. I thought about going with an apartment, but I'd like to try that next time perhaps. Overall hotel costs in CTG are not bad, and I prefer not having to worry about my belongings so I'll try love motels. What's the most convenient area to stay at? This is just a 3 day trip, during the daytime I might try to check out the action if available. Maybe at the beach. But I like to do the whole touristy thing as well, check out some sights, dining scene, etc. But I would also like to be close to the action and preferably within walking distance of chica bars / clubs or a quick cab ride away.

Any suggestions / advice is greatly appreciated. If you have any other tips as far as daytime action, that would be appreciated as well. Thanks, this forum really makes things a lot easier.

[QUOTE=Puntz79;1605667]I'm looking to travel to Cartagena next weekend, would be my first time in Colombia! I have a couple questions and would appreciate any advice:

I'm flying with Avianca from the US and have a change of flights in Bogota. How is transiting in Bogota? Do I have to collect my checked-in luggage and drop off? How bad is the wait in passport control / immigration? My flight arrives in Bogota around 7:15 PM. The time between flights is about 2 and half hours. It's my first experience with airports in Bogota, I've read about arriving early for international flights by as much as 3-4 hours and the lengthy process and security checks. But do not know how transiting through Bogota is and what it entails.
[/QUOTE]Your bags should be checked all the way to CTG. You don't see your bags or immigration until your final destination. CTG.

Just make sure you don't miss your flight to CTG Puntz79 cause last April on my way to Cancun with the novia we missed our flight so we had to go from Bogota to San salvador then finally Cancun.

Our bags stayed overnight in Bogota and when the Copa airlines worker brought us our luggages the day after the novia said she was missing some underwear and stuff I thought she was mistaken.

Or didn't remember what she had brought so after thoroughly checking mine I noticed my RUSH, METALLICA and NWA t-shirts were missing. !

I am still pissed off till this day.

I decided I'd stay in Centro, was very close to picking something in Bocagrande but staying in Centro gives me more of an opportunity to experience the city without being in a cab as I prefer to walk around and do some sight seeing.

What are the best options? I've read about the Clock Tower, and there are a few bars in the area correct? Tu Candela etc, and Mister Babilla but I think that is just outside the walls. As for daytime action, are there are good options in Centro or is it all at the beach?

[QUOTE=Puntz79;1605667]I'm looking to travel to Cartagena next weekend, would be my first time in Colombia! I have a couple questions and would appreciate any advice:

I'm flying with Avianca from the US and have a change of flights in Bogota. How is transiting in Bogota? Do I have to collect my checked-in luggage and drop off? How bad is the wait in passport control / immigration? My flight arrives in Bogota around 7:15 PM. The time between flights is about 2 and half hours. It's my first experience with airports in Bogota, I've read about arriving early for international flights by as much as 3-4 hours and the lengthy process and security checks. But do not know how transiting through Bogota is and what it entails.

Hotel suggestions. I'm going with the strategy of staying at a regular hotel for my first time and taking a girl to love motels for short time. I thought about going with an apartment, but I'd like to try that next time perhaps..[/QUOTE]You have to collect your checked-in luggage, because Bogota is your port of entry, go tru customs and Immigration, then you will see a drop off Counter for Avianca, that's a drop off for you luggage, then proceed to your next flight, remember your flight from Bogota to Cartagena is Inland or (National), not International.

Just my two cents.

Kukulkan,

Peace

The flight is too long.

Stay overnight in Bogota.

Get laid and go to Cartagena the next day.

[QUOTE=Puntz79;1605667]I'm looking to travel to Cartagena next weekend, would be my first time in Colombia! I have a couple questions and would appreciate any advice:

I'm flying with Avianca from the US and have a change of flights in Bogota. How is transiting in Bogota? Do I have to collect my checked-in luggage and drop off? How bad is the wait in passport control / immigration? My flight arrives in Bogota around 7:15 PM. The time between flights is about 2 and half hours. It's my first experience with airports in Bogota, I've read about arriving early for international flights by as much as 3-4 hours and the lengthy process and security checks. But do not know how transiting through Bogota is and what it entails.

Hotel suggestions. I'm going with the strategy of staying at a regular hotel for my first time and taking a girl to love motels for short time. I thought about going with an apartment, but I'd like to try that next time perhaps. Overall hotel costs in CTG are not bad, and I prefer not having to worry about my belongings so I'll try love motels. What's the most convenient area to stay at? This is just a 3 day trip, during the daytime I might try to check out the action if available. Maybe at the beach. But I like to do the whole touristy thing as well, check out some sights, dining scene, etc. But I would also like to be close to the action and preferably within walking distance of chica bars / clubs or a quick cab ride away.

Any suggestions / advice is greatly appreciated. If you have any other tips as far as daytime action, that would be appreciated as well. Thanks, this forum really makes things a lot easier.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;1606336]The flight is too long.

Stay overnight in Bogota.

Get laid and go to Cartagena the next day.[/QUOTE]From where I am, the flight to Bogota is 3 hours. Maybe 3. 5. Onwards connection to CTG is just an hour.

However, I am giving serious consideration to staying a night in Bogota on my way back. I've read that there is a tolerance zone in Bogota, but not exactly the safest place to be walking. I've thought about escort options, has anyone tried in Bogota?

Or, maybe the better questions is. If you had one night in Bogota for mongering. What would you do?

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1605668]Your bags should be checked all the way to CTG. You don't see your bags or immigration until your final destination. CTG.[/QUOTE]That's not correct. Bogota is the port of entry: after immigration, you need to collect bags (checked in to the final destination) and pass the customs. After that, you leave them to the desk where they will route them to the final destination.

2. 5 hours is more than enough: the BOG airport is very efficient. Also, both flights are Avianca. Please note that since this year domestic Avianca flights DO NOT leave from Puente Aereo, but from the same international airport where you land.

By the time you get to Cartagena and check in you will be too tired to go out and check the city out.

You want to do that in the day time.

Stay in Zona Rosa area in Bogota.

Great safe area to start.

Check My Map, there are many places close by.

You can walk to these:

17. Chicas Milenio, Calle 71 # 14 A-20.30 Chicas in Shifts. Prices: 30 k 20 min. , 40 k 30 min. , 60 k hour. Tel: 249 2927,312 5074. Hours: 9 am to 3 am. (#4 on Tung's Chapinero Map).

18. Chicas 2000 / Las Profesionales, Calle 71 # 14 A-27-33.6 Chicas. Prices: 30 k 20 min. , 40 k 30 min. , 60 k hour. Hours: 9 am to 9 pm. (#1/30 on Tung's Chapinero Map).

Prices might be a little off.

[QUOTE=Puntz79;1606565]From where I am, the flight to Bogota is 3 hours. Maybe 3. 5. Onwards connection to CTG is just an hour.

However, I am giving serious consideration to staying a night in Bogota on my way back. I've read that there is a tolerance zone in Bogota, but not exactly the safest place to be walking. I've thought about escort options, has anyone tried in Bogota?

Or, maybe the better questions is. If you had one night in Bogota for mongering. What would you do?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BlackPage;1606692]That's not correct. Bogota is the port of entry: after immigration, you need to collect bags (checked in to the final destination) and pass the customs. After that, you leave them to the desk where they will route them to the final destination.

2. 5 hours is more than enough: the BOG airport is very efficient. Also, both flights are Avianca. Please note that since this year domestic Avianca flights DO NOT leave from Puente Aereo, but from the same international airport where you land.[/QUOTE]Good and accurate information in this post from BP in re to an international flight from USA landing in Bogota with a connection to Cartagena. I'd personally make my connection and get onto CTG, but that just a personal preference and falls squarely into the old saying of "different strokes for different folks".

Your baggage that you check in Miami is sent to Cartagena unless you ask to get it in Bogota. They will xray it in Bogota (I assume) then it is put on the plane with you, hopefully. I have done this for many times, including today. Occasionally there will be an inspection in Cartagena, but not often.

Thanks for the great info so far. I have to admit I am still a little confused on the bags being checked all the way to CTG and no need to collect them in BOG. Research apart from this forum is mixed on it as well, some say it works the same as the USA but slightly more seem to say you actually don't see your bags until CTG. Interesting. I guess I will find out soon, on Thursday.

With staying in a normal hotel in Centro, what are the best daytime spots? Is LDV worth the can ride to Bocagrande, or should I find plenty of action in Centro around the Clock Tower and other bars in the same area? For short time hotels, is there one that is close by in Centro?

I was really tempted on stopping in BOG overnight on the way to CTG but as my tickets have already been bought I cannot cha he now. I usually don't sleep until later on average anyways so I am not expecting to be tired but travel always takes a little bit of a toll. I may just give BOG a go on my way back. Zona Rosa seems very safe, the safety thing always makes me think. But I always feel that those who are too used to feeling secure at all times when walking in Western Nations will always feel less secure in a foreign country even if there is nothing around them to worry about.

Most of your questions have been answered on the the last several pages. There is very little day time action in El Centro. I suppose the beaches in Bocagrande or Laguito later in afternoon.

[QUOTE=Puntz79;1607393]Thanks for the great info so far. I have to admit I am still a little confused on the bags being checked all the way to CTG and no need to collect them in BOG. Research apart from this forum is mixed on it as well, some say it works the same as the USA but slightly more seem to say you actually don't see your bags until CTG. Interesting. I guess I will find out soon, on Thursday.

With staying in a normal hotel in Centro, what are the best daytime spots? Is LDV worth the can ride to Bocagrande, or should I find plenty of action in Centro around the Clock Tower and other bars in the same area? For short time hotels, is there one that is close by in Centro?

I was really tempted on stopping in BOG overnight on the way to CTG but as my tickets have already been bought I cannot cha he now. I usually don't sleep until later on average anyways so I am not expecting to be tired but travel always takes a little bit of a toll. I may just give BOG a go on my way back. Zona Rosa seems very safe, the safety thing always makes me think. But I always feel that those who are too used to feeling secure at all times when walking in Western Nations will always feel less secure in a foreign country even if there is nothing around them to worry about.[/QUOTE]

Not much day time action, except the beach in Boca and maybe the clock tower. Everything is at night, even most of the brothels are night time.

That's is why Bogota, Medellin or Cali are better spots for Mongers. Cartagena is better for tourists. Too expensive.

You are going from International to National. It does not make sense that you can send your bags through. You still have to go through customs in Bogota. Why do it twice?

[QUOTE=Puntz79;1607393]Thanks for the great info so far. I have to admit I am still a little confused on the bags being checked all the way to CTG and no need to collect them in BOG. Research apart from this forum is mixed on it as well, some say it works the same as the USA but slightly more seem to say you actually don't see your bags until CTG. Interesting. I guess I will find out soon, on Thursday.

With staying in a normal hotel in Centro, what are the best daytime spots? Is LDV worth the can ride to Bocagrande, or should I find plenty of action in Centro around the Clock Tower and other bars in the same area? For short time hotels, is there one that is close by in Centro?

I was really tempted on stopping in BOG overnight on the way to CTG but as my tickets have already been bought I cannot cha he now. I usually don't sleep until later on average anyways so I am not expecting to be tired but travel always takes a little bit of a toll. I may just give BOG a go on my way back. Zona Rosa seems very safe, the safety thing always makes me think. But I always feel that those who are too used to feeling secure at all times when walking in Western Nations will always feel less secure in a foreign country even if there is nothing around them to worry about.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LocoGringo;1607331]Your baggage that you check in Miami is sent to Cartagena unless you ask to get it in Bogota. They will xray it in Bogota (I assume) then it is put on the plane with you, hopefully. I have done this for many times, including today. Occasionally there will be an inspection in Cartagena, but not often.[/QUOTE]

I just checked, and I discovered that CTG can be also port of international entry (there are direct flights for example MIA-CTG). Therefore, the CTG airport has customs and, presumably, it must be possible to send baggages straight to CTG without passing customs in BOG, as I wrote before. I must say that I never did that. In the past, they asked me to take luggage, pass customs, and then leave them at the desk for delivery to the final destination.
Also, I wonder HOW it could be possible to discriminate my luggage at the CTG airport, once I arrive at the domestic gate with a domestic flight and the luggage it is put on the belt with all other luggage of the domestic flight BOG-CTG.

REgardless this can happen or not, what I wrote applies entirely for ANY connection from international to domestic flight via BOG, when the final destination is NOT an international port of entry.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;1608131]I just checked, and I discovered that CTG can be also port of international entry (there are direct flights for example MIA-CTG). Therefore, the CTG airport has customs and, presumably, it must be possible to send baggages straight to CTG without passing customs in BOG, as I wrote before. I must say that I never did that. In the past, they asked me to take luggage, pass customs, and then leave them at the desk for delivery to the final destination.
Also, I wonder HOW it could be possible to discriminate my luggage at the CTG airport, once I arrive at the domestic gate with a domestic flight and the luggage it is put on the belt with all other luggage of the domestic flight BOG-CTG.

REgardless this can happen or not, what I wrote applies entirely for ANY connection from international to domestic flight via BOG, when the final destination is NOT an international port of entry.[/QUOTE]They don't. Unless customs in Bogota strongly suspects a problem you never see the customs guy. Been doing it for 10 years. Actually you can also ck luggage in cartagena to miami via Bogota. As long as it is all on Avianca. Used to be that you could do it with delta/Avianca, not partners now. I know you can do the same from Pereira to Miami.

[QUOTE=LocoGringo;1608219]They don't. Unless customs in Bogota strongly suspects a problem you never see the customs guy. Been doing it for 10 years. Actually you can also ck luggage in cartagena to miami via Bogota. As long as it is all on Avianca. Used to be that you could do it with delta/Avianca, not partners now. I know you can do the same from Pereira to Miami.[/QUOTE]You have been there for 10 years and you never had filled in the DIAN form named Declaration of Baggage and Currency (Declaraciand de Equipaje why Dinero)? You never saw a custom guy?
WOW...!

FYI, the small desk where you leave the form (I assume you filled it every time), at the exit of the large area for baggage claim at the BOG airport, *IS INDEED* the custom desk. The guy/lady who receives the form from your hands is a DIAN officer.

You can check the luggage in MIA directly to CTG via BOG (or return), because (as I wrote yesterday), also CTG is an international port of entry. There are direct flights MIA-CTG, for example. This does not exempt you from filling in the DIA form and returning it to a DIAN officer (customs). The fact that controls are usually very relaxed does not mean there are no customs there. Otherwise, smuggling would be too easy, obvious indeed.

Here is what happened, as I arrived into CTG on Thursday night going through BOG all with Avianca. I saw mixed information with some saying the process is exactly the same as in the USA with going through passport control on your port of entry, and then picking up your checked-in luggage from baggage claim and then going through customs, and then giving your bag to the airline desk for the domestic connection. It did not work like that, and here is my experience.

I filled out a customs form and on arrival at BOG, went through immigration which took about 15 minutes (not that big of a line and it moved fairly quickly), got stamped. Went to baggage claim, and asked someone at baggage tracking if I have to collect my bags here. She asked for my baggage sticker / ticket and when she saw that I arrived on an international flight and was connecting in BOG with Avianca, she said my bags will not come out here. I asked if she was 100% sure, because I did not want to risk dealing with any misinformation and having my bag left behind, and she said yes. As I had nothing to declare I went to that line, gave my form to the agent collecting them and glancing them and went to the Terminal 1 domestic side. My bags showed up in Cartagena, and did not come out in Bogota at all. I waited around at the carousel a good 15 minutes after the other pax checked-in luggage from my flight was coming out but I never saw my bag. I took that as a sign that it does indeed come out at your final destination in the country. So while you do give your customs declaration form in at BOG, you do not see your bags until CTG. It's definitely different than how it is when you arrive in the United States. And at CTG, I just collected my bag once it came out and walked straight through the exit and to the taxi stand. Honestly I'd say it was a very smooth experience.

On to my mongering experience, I did the clock tower area last night and a little bit the first night. It's my first time in CTG, and there were definitely a good number of street walkers and it dwindles down as the night goes on although in the plaza around the reloj it was still busy. As for the quality, it will depend on what appeals to you. While I did see a few 8's and 9's, a good majority were 5's and 6's. There were also a few who I would not even give a second look to, but everyone has their own tastes. I will share more later this weekend as my trip wraps up, CTG is definitely better for tourists as there's a good bit to see during the daytime especially in Centro. The walled city is definitely unique and worth checking out, even in the intense heat. The daytime action in Centro, well. There does not seem to be much really. The street vendors can be annoying, but I have not had much issues. A simple no gracias does it, one did persist but as I continued to walk away he moved on to the next tourist. Most of them did not bother. Oh and as for safety, plenty of police in Centro. I have felt completely safe so far but as always, everyone should take precautions and be aware of their surroundings.

Don't forget to take the Rum Bus night tour.

The day time bus tour is also a good one.

[QUOTE=Puntz79;1608877]Here is what happened, as I arrived into CTG on Thursday night going through BOG all with Avianca. I saw mixed information with some saying the process is exactly the same as in the USA with going through passport control on your port of entry, and then picking up your checked-in luggage from baggage claim and then going through customs, and then giving your bag to the airline desk for the domestic connection. It did not work like that, and here is my experience.

I filled out a customs form and on arrival at BOG, went through immigration which took about 15 minutes (not that big of a line and it moved fairly quickly), got stamped. Went to baggage claim, and asked someone at baggage tracking if I have to collect my bags here. She asked for my baggage sticker / ticket and when she saw that I arrived on an international flight and was connecting in BOG with Avianca, she said my bags will not come out here. I asked if she was 100% sure, because I did not want to risk dealing with any misinformation and having my bag left behind, and she said yes. As I had nothing to declare I went to that line, gave my form to the agent collecting them and glancing them and went to the Terminal 1 domestic side. My bags showed up in Cartagena, and did not come out in Bogota at all. I waited around at the carousel a good 15 minutes after the other pax checked-in luggage from my flight was coming out but I never saw my bag. I took that as a sign that it does indeed come out at your final destination in the country. So while you do give your customs declaration form in at BOG, you do not see your bags until CTG. It's definitely different than how it is when you arrive in the United States. And at CTG, I just collected my bag once it came out and walked straight through the exit and to the taxi stand. Honestly I'd say it was a very smooth experience.

On to my mongering experience, I did the clock tower area last night and a little bit the first night. It's my first time in CTG, and there were definitely a good number of street walkers and it dwindles down as the night goes on although in the plaza around the reloj it was still busy. As for the quality, it will depend on what appeals to you. While I did see a few 8's and 9's, a good majority were 5's and 6's. There were also a few who I would not even give a second look to, but everyone has their own tastes. I will share more later this weekend as my trip wraps up, CTG is definitely better for tourists as there's a good bit to see during the daytime especially in Centro. The walled city is definitely unique and worth checking out, even in the intense heat. The daytime action in Centro, well. There does not seem to be much really. The street vendors can be annoying, but I have not had much issues. A simple no gracias does it, one did persist but as I continued to walk away he moved on to the next tourist. Most of them did not bother. Oh and as for safety, plenty of police in Centro. I have felt completely safe so far but as always, everyone should take precautions and be aware of their surroundings.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Puntz79;1608877]Here is what happened, as I arrived into CTG on Thursday night going through BOG all with Avianca. I saw mixed information with some saying the process is exactly the same as in the USA with going through passport control on your port of entry, and then picking up your checked-in luggage from baggage claim and then going through customs, and then giving your bag to the airline desk for the domestic connection. It did not work like that, and here is my experience.

I filled out a customs form and on arrival at BOG, went through immigration which took about 15 minutes (not that big of a line and it moved fairly quickly), got stamped. Went to baggage claim, and asked someone at baggage tracking if I have to collect my bags here. She asked for my baggage sticker / ticket and when she saw that I arrived on an international flight and was connecting in BOG with Avianca, she said my bags will not come out here. I asked if she was 100% sure, because I did not want to risk dealing with any misinformation and having my bag left behind, and she said yes. As I had nothing to declare I went to that line, gave my form to the agent collecting them and glancing them and went to the Terminal 1 domestic side. My bags showed up in Cartagena, and did not come out in Bogota at all. I waited around at the carousel a good 15 minutes after the other pax checked-in luggage from my flight was coming out but I never saw my bag. I took that as a sign that it does indeed come out at your final destination in the country. So while you do give your customs declaration form in at BOG, you do not see your bags until CTG. It's definitely different than how it is when you arrive in the United States. And at CTG, I just collected my bag once it came out and walked straight through the exit and to the taxi stand. Honestly I'd say it was a very smooth experience.[/QUOTE]It varies by country. When you check in at the airport for the first leg, they will put the baggage sticker on the boarding pass where your baggage will come out of.

What is this Rum Bus night tour that you speak of. Is this different than the standard Chiva tour. I was looking for a monger's version, does that exist?

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;1608903]Don't forget to take the Rum Bus night tour.

The day time bus tour is also a good one.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BlackPage;1608309]You have been there for 10 years and you never had filled in the DIAN form named Declaration of Baggage and Currency (Declaraciand de Equipaje why Dinero)? You never saw a custom guy?
WOW...!

FYI, the small desk where you leave the form (I assume you filled it every time), at the exit of the large area for baggage claim at the BOG airport, *IS INDEED* the custom desk. The guy/lady who receives the form from your hands is a DIAN officer.

You can check the luggage in MIA directly to CTG via BOG (or return), because (as I wrote yesterday), also CTG is an international port of entry. There are direct flights MIA-CTG, for example. This does not exempt you from filling in the DIA form and returning it to a DIAN officer (customs). The fact that controls are usually very relaxed does not mean there are no customs there. Otherwise, smuggling would be too easy, obvious indeed.[/QUOTE]Of course they take the form it in Bogota. But, your checked luggage goes on to Cartagena, as I stated. Damn, not a big deal. Ahhhhh for the times when we flew.

Aces from Miami. American flew to Barranquilla 14 years ago, stayed there 1 night, too many banditos on the road to Cartagena at night. Many casas in.

Barranquilla, Alvaro transported the next day. Tony was a caucasian, got blacker with each lie.

It is not a monger bus, but it is fun.

I stayed at the Hotel Playa and the bus started out front on San Martin and Calle 4. You can board at other spots around the city.

[URL]http://www.cartagenaconnections.com/chiva-tours.html[/URL]

[URL]http://www.tripfilms.com/Travel_Video-v74089-Cartagena-Chiva_Party_Bus_Cartagena_Colombia-Video.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=BigB23;1610298]What is this Rum Bus night tour that you speak of. Is this different than the standard Chiva tour. I was looking for a monger's version, does that exist?[/QUOTE]

Thanks, I will have to try one night. Some nice bar write ups on that site.

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;1610507]It is not a monger bus, but it is fun.

I stayed at the Hotel Playa and the bus started out front on San Martin and Calle 4. You can board at other spots around the city.

[URL]http://www.cartagenaconnections.com/chiva-tours.html[/URL]

[URL]http://www.tripfilms.com/Travel_Video-v74089-Cartagena-Chiva_Party_Bus_Cartagena_Colombia-Video.html[/URL][/QUOTE]

TOMBASB.

Thanks for the great report on 7/29/14. This may have been the best report I have read on ISG. For some time I have considered a trip to CTG but the reports were inconsistant, one good and the next bad. Your report covered all angles. I like that. You tried to give a fare analysis and let others decide. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Hotrod10;1613978]TOMBASB.

Thanks for the great report on 7/29/14. This may have been the best report I have read on ISG. For some time I have considered a trip to CTG but the reports were inconsistant, one good and the next bad. Your report covered all angles. I like that. You tried to give a fare analysis and let others decide. Thanks.[/QUOTE]The report was of member "Cerevro".

Years ago I was spending hours in writing long reports divided in sections about CTG, what to do, where to go, etc. Scroll back 2-3-4-5 years and you find it. From the RoD section it will be easier.

Tired of paying 200,000 COP for some siliconed up, pretentious princess who insists you use a condom? There are other options in Cartagena:

[URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VKWLC87Uzw[/URL]

[QUOTE=Tiny12;1614642]Tired of paying 200,000 COP for some siliconed up, pretentious princess who insists you use a condom? There are other options in Cartagena:

[URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VKWLC87Uzw[/URL][/QUOTE]This should come with one of those advisory messages. I feel sorry for the guy from Vice that covered this and saw it in person.

Anyone hear of Hotel El Pedregal. I'm wondering if its girl friendly.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;1614642]Tired of paying 200,000 COP for some siliconed up, pretentious princess who insists you use a condom? There are other options in Cartagena:

[URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VKWLC87Uzw[/URL][/QUOTE]It definitely gives this song a literal meaning. [URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so6oWh3SrLY[/URL].

I'll be there for a week. First timer. I'm pretty excited, kind of nervous but excited.

I am going to read through this post and get some knowledge before my trip. Just wanted to say Hi and thanks in advance for anyone's advice they may give.

[QUOTE=MamalaPenga;1616719]I'll be there for a week. First timer. I'm pretty excited, kind of nervous but excited.

I am going to read through this post and get some knowledge before my trip. Just wanted to say Hi and thanks in advance for anyone's advice they may give.[/QUOTE]Saw elsewhere that you don't know yet where you are staying. My advice: if you haven't already done so, contact Juan Ventura to inquire about what apartment (s) he has available that fits your dates. Renting an apartment through Juan will help ease some of the natural nervousness of a first trip to Cartagena.

Disclosure: I do not have a financial interest in any of Juan's apartments, nor do I receive any type of referral fee. I consider Juan a friend and he is truly a good guy who is trustworthy and manages apartments professionally.

[QUOTE=Hilltopper;1617161]Saw elsewhere that you don't know yet where you are staying. My advice: if you haven't already done so, contact Juan Ventura to inquire about what apartment (s) he has available that fits your dates. Renting an apartment through Juan will help ease some of the natural nervousness of a first trip to Cartagena.
Disclosure: I do not have a financial interest in any of Juan's apartments, nor do I receive any type of referral fee. I consider Juan a friend and he is truly a good guy who is trustworthy and manages apartments professionally.[/QUOTE]I second that. I tried and now I can confirm.
BUT, it's better you and others stop to repeat his name here. We don't really want Juan's apartments become ISG Readers' domain. He does not deserve that :-D
(and personally I don't really want to mix with mongers when I am on vacation)

Could someone PM an email for Juan? I can't find it in any of the searches.

He is not a member.

If these still work.

1. Juan Ventura Apartments, Etc:

[URL]http://www.zepelion.com/apartamentos/index.htm[/URL]

[URL]http://www.cartagenapenthouse.com[/URL]

[QUOTE=MamalaPenga;1619026]Could someone PM an email for Juan? I can't find it in any of the searches.[/QUOTE]

With Elektra being closed where has the 12-3 am action moved? Is LDV getting more action earlier in the evenings as a result?

Hi guys,

Is the Sofitel girl friendly? Or any chance to sneak in companions, if not dressed too slutty?

Any experience?

Gracias!

I am planning a one week trip to Cartagena.

Where should I stay? I like hotels but I rather stay in a beachfront apartment. Any nice hotels chica friendly? I have read about this Juan Ventura guy, can someone send me his email or contact number? Is it possible to find nice looking girls for less than $100?

I want to do tourist stuff as well. Spanish is not an issue since is my native language. I am recently divorced, I would like to find a nice 8 to 10 girl to spends the whole week with me. Can I find good material in the beach?

Thanks,

Ivan

[QUOTE=TonyToca;1623753]I am planning a one week trip to Cartagena.

Where should I stay? I like hotels but I rather stay in a beachfront apartment. Any nice hotels chica friendly? I have read about this Juan Ventura guy, can someone send me his email or contact number? Is it possible to find nice looking girls for less than $100?

I want to do tourist stuff as well. Spanish is not an issue since is my native language. I am recently divorced, I would like to find a nice 8 to 10 girl to spends the whole week with me. Can I find good material in the beach?

Thanks,

Ivan[/QUOTE]You need to join, as in pay the $20 membership in order for people to contact you directly. As phone numbers are not allowed to be posted.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;1617165]better it's you and others stop to repeat his name here. We don't really want Juan's apartments become ISG Readers' domain. He does not deserve that :-D
(and personally I don't really want to mix with mongers when I am on vacation)[/QUOTE]Some of the owners of Juan's apartments, and some of the buildings won't accept people like you as customers. Relax, the ones that do accept you know what they're letting in.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;1617165]I second that. I tried and now I can confirm.

BUT, it's better you and others stop to repeat his name here. We don't really want Juan's apartments become ISG Readers' domain. He does not deserve that :-D

(and personally I don't really want to mix with mongers when I am on vacation)[/QUOTE]ISG is where I learned about Juan in the first place when I was researching where to rent an apartment from in Cartagena. I can assure you, most of the apartments in Laguito have no problems with girls going back.

Sarcasm detector available via download. Pay as you go monthly software as a service.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;1623942]Some of the owners of Juan's apartments, and some of the buildings won't accept people like you as customers. Relax, the ones that do accept you know what they're letting in.[/QUOTE]Are you sure I never entered your condo?

[QUOTE=BigB23;1623072]With Elektra being closed where has the 12-3 am action moved? Is LDV getting more action earlier in the evenings as a result?[/QUOTE]The problem is not the interval 12-3 am, but 3 am onwards, when Elektra had the peak time.

I share your discomfort anyway. Where to go after 3 am?

I have not been to CTG in about a year but have made many trips in the past. A few years back I was there for a week and Elektra was closed for remodeling so the cigarette guy at the door of the LDV said. At that time they left the LDV open a couple extra hours. Does anyone know if they are leaving the LDV open longer now with Elektra closedown?

Gentleman. Does anyone know how CTG is the week of Easter? More girls? Or is everyone home for the holiday? Planning my 2015 adventures! Thanks!

[QUOTE=BrotherP;1626677]Gentleman. Does anyone know how CTG is the week of Easter? More girls? Or is everyone home for the holiday? Planning my 2015 adventures! Thanks![/QUOTE]
Have never been to CTG for SS but have been to many other Latin countries during this period. The usual chain of events is to stay home with relatives until Good Friday late afternoon or Saturday morning and then head to the beach for two or three days. CTG being a popular beach destination should be very busy. Your problem will be to sift out the chicas who are there without family and are looking to party. I guessing there will be plenty of prepagos, semi-pros and non pros alike.

[QUOTE=BrotherP;1626677]Gentleman. Does anyone know how CTG is the week of Easter? More girls? Or is everyone home for the holiday? Planning my 2015 adventures! Thanks![/QUOTE]I avoid mongering trips over Semana Santa, especially Thursday and Friday and maybe Saturday of that week, dead as far as PFP.

Like the previous poster wrote, there will be non pros on vacation, however, that week they're into the family and religous thing.

Myself, like I said, I avoid that week for PFP fun.

[QUOTE=Ricker;1626692]I avoid mongering trips over Semana Santa, especially Thursday and Friday and maybe Saturday of that week, dead as far as PFP.

Like the previous poster wrote, there will be non pros on vacation, however, that week they're into the family and religous thing.

Myself, like I said, I avoid that week for PFP fun.[/QUOTE]I agree, and honestly speaking, its the riff raff that is normally available during this time. The good looking ones are either with their family or loved ones, the ones on drugs or just on the border line of living you will find. Not a good time to go.

Thanks for the input brothers! I get that Friday off, so I I was thinking of making it a long weekend. But Ill go another time!

(I mean for those who are long-time regs of CTG.).

If I am with a friend and a small group of good fun girls, what is the best beach / island where I could go with a lancha for a fun day tour?

I tried 2-3 places in the past, and I would not return in none of them.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;1627295](I mean for those who are long-time regs of CTG.).

If I am with a friend and a small group of good fun girls, what is the best beach / island where I could go with a lancha for a fun day tour?

I tried 2-3 places in the past, and I would not return in none of them.[/QUOTE]Baru Island Play Blanca. Have you been there?

[QUOTE=BlackPage;1627295](I mean for those who are long-time regs of CTG.).

If I am with a friend and a small group of good fun girls, what is the best beach / island where I could go with a lancha for a fun day tour?

I tried 2-3 places in the past, and I would not return in none of them.[/QUOTE]I would also suggest Islas del Rosario.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1627302]Baru Island Play Blanca. Have you been there?[/QUOTE]Not yet, and that is exactly the place I was considering! Cholon?

I was frankly angry, instead, when I went to the Cocoliso resort, when I was lured there by some good promoter. For swimming, only 5 meters of beach and a swimming pool. One whole day wasted. On the same tour, there were several Colombians who liked it, on the other hand.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;1627371]Not yet, and that is exactly the place I was considering! Cholon?

I was frankly angry, instead, when I went to the Cocoliso resort, when I was lured there by some good promoter. For swimming, only 5 meters of beach and a swimming pool. One whole day wasted. On the same tour, there were several Colombians who liked it, on the other hand.[/QUOTE]They usually do combo tours. First to Playa Blanca, drop some people off that just wants to relax on the beach. Then another 20 minutes to Islas de Rosario. There is an aquarium there (don't know if it's any good. Didn't go inside). Outside they sell fresh lobsters and crab (I believe for 10 k). After a couple hours there, you go back to Playa Blanca for another couple of hours before heading back to mainland. They pick you up at the hotel to get there but going back you need to get a taxi.

How is the Angeles Club, is it worth a try?

[QUOTE=BigB23;1630118]How is the Angeles Club, is it worth a try?[/QUOTE]Not a great selection. Might find a diamond in the rough (same with all the cheapo clubs in Cartagena). I think it was under 100 k so worthy of at least a look.

I'm going to Cartagen in December. I learned bunch of things from this forum about also I found maps to be extremely useful. I found this one: [URL]https://maps.google.com/maps/u/0/ms?vps=3&jsv=329b&hl=en&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=202115846141467908565.0004a0706d2b411420a83&dg=feature[/URL].

Does anybody have other maps or can confirm if the info on the map is not outdated?

I plan on getting Pueblito Playa hotel. As somebody said it was chica friendly. I found it on booking com and it seems good. Is there a better chica friendly option? Also I plan to stay few days in walled city. Is there a cheap but OK hotel with no chica fees or reasonable chica fees?

My friend told me that police raided and closed several places in Bosque and Bomba de El Amparo. And also that police is pushing girls out of Centro (Reloy)!

Anybody is there in these days and can confirm or correct?
How is the situation?

I will be there soon, and it would be really disappointing to discover that LDV is closed, girls disappeared, etc. :eek:

[QUOTE=Hioctane;1630344]Not a great selection. Might find a diamond in the rough (same with all the cheapo clubs in Cartagena). I think it was under 100 k so worthy of at least a look.[/QUOTE]What about during the day? I'm going to be there in 1 week and want to find a couple prepagos during the day to drink and go to the beach with. What's my best bet?

Been to Medellin, Costa Rica and DR a bunch of times. But this is my first trip to Cartagena, so I feel unprepared LOL.

FYI - 1st post, but long time reader.

I will be there last week in October so will forward any information. I am glad that I kept my phone numbers from my last trip in July as it may be the only option. Sounds like the end of an era.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;1633339]My friend told me that police raided and closed several places in Bosque and Bomba de El Amparo. And also that police is pushing girls out of Centro (Reloy)!

Anybody is there in these days and can confirm or correct?
How is the situation?

I will be there soon, and it would be really disappointing to discover that LDV is closed, girls disappeared, etc. :eek:[/QUOTE]

Get a condo laguito.

[QUOTE=NotNow;1630883]I'm going to Cartagen in December. I learned bunch of things from this forum about also I found maps to be extremely useful. I found this one: [URL]https://maps.google.com/maps/u/0/ms?vps=3&jsv=329b&hl=en&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=202115846141467908565.0004a0706d2b411420a83&dg=feature[/URL].

Does anybody have other maps or can confirm if the info on the map is not outdated?

I plan on getting Pueblito Playa hotel. As somebody said it was chica friendly. I found it on booking com and it seems good. Is there a better chica friendly option? Also I plan to stay few days in walled city. Is there a cheap but OK hotel with no chica fees or reasonable chica fees?[/QUOTE]

From the newspaper El Espectador today, Friday.

[URL]http://www.elespectador.com/noticias/nacional/imagenes-ponen-al-descubierto-un-prostibulo-bocagrande-articulo-522397[/URL]

[QUOTE=Tomasb;1633582]I will be there last week in October so will forward any information. I am glad that I kept my phone numbers from my last trip in July as it may be the only option. Sounds like the end of an era.[/QUOTE]Wait before saying that. Maybe it's just a thrill lasting a couple of days.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;1633832]Wait before saying that. Maybe it's just a thrill lasting a couple of days.[/QUOTE]I will also be there that week and a few beers with two pros many help me out and guide me in the right direction.

After a day or two of mongering, I will need some help. How and where can find the Vitamins. Is Cartagena just like every other country south of the US, where I can just go to a little farmacia and pick a few up?

[QUOTE=Raeder21;1633399]What about during the day? I'm going to be there in 1 week and want to find a couple prepagos during the day to drink and go to the beach with. What's my best bet?

Been to Medellin, Costa Rica and DR a bunch of times. But this is my first trip to Cartagena, so I feel unprepared LOL.

FYI - 1st post, but long time reader.[/QUOTE]I had the same question. I know the guy at the beach can hook me up but what if I don't like his options.

[QUOTE=OldParr;1633742]From the newspaper El Espectador today, Friday.

[URL]http://www.elespectador.com/noticias/nacional/imagenes-ponen-al-descubierto-un-prostibulo-bocagrande-articulo-522397[/URL][/QUOTE]The most interesting piece of news I read in this article is that a police officer declared [I]"se evidencia que efectivamente existe el turismo sexual"[/I] (en Cartagena). Wow.

I saw the movie. The girl is not in danger but clearly under effect of drugs.

[QUOTE=BigB23;1633843]I had the same question. I know the guy at the beach can hook me up but what if I don't like his options.[/QUOTE]Casa Rocio has girls during the day. If the cruises and / or cargo ships are in during the day, literally all the girls will be working during the day. If not, then just a few. You can also get the girls' numbers at places like that to arrange stuff during the day. The girls in places like that are almost all from other parts of the country and are generally organized to cater to whoever has the money for them, more so than local girls.

[QUOTE=BigB23;1633843]I had the same question. I know the guy at the beach can hook me up but what if I don't like his options.[/QUOTE]You tell him such and HE presents more. Don't like those, you tell him such and HE finds more. After saying you don't like the dozen or so various choices presented while relaxing and enjoying drinks there in Playa Hollywood, etc. , you take a stroll up and down Laguito in the late afternoon / early evening (before and during dusk). Finding a suitable chica in the afternoon to early evening is a pretty easy thing to do for one who is relaxed, not in a rush, is able to go with the flow and is observant and aware and is able to interact with Colombianos. IMHO, guys who are in a rush, impatient, anxious, nervous, bothered with locals, etc. , tend to miss out on a lot of what may be available to them.

Just my dos centavos.

[QUOTE=BigB23;1633842]After a day or two of mongering, I will need some help. How and where can find the Vitamins. Is Cartagena just like every other country south of the US, where I can just go to a little farmacia and pick a few up?[/QUOTE]If you are referring to generic Viagra, then yes, walk in and buy it for less than $2 at one of the little pharmacies. They will have several options to choose from, with some being more expensive. I can only vouch for the ones that are under $2, and didn't see a reason to try the higher priced ones.

[QUOTE=Hilltopper;1634018]If you are referring to generic Viagra, then yes, walk in and buy it for less than $2 at one of the little pharmacies. They will have several options to choose from, with some being more expensive. I can only vouch for the ones that are under $2, and didn't see a reason to try the higher priced ones.[/QUOTE]Yes sir, perfect, Thanks.

[QUOTE=Hilltopper;1634011]You tell him such and HE presents more. Don't like those, you tell him such and HE finds more. After saying you don't like the dozen or so various choices presented while relaxing and enjoying drinks there in Playa Hollywood, etc. , you take a stroll up and down Laguito in the late afternoon / early evening (before and during dusk). Finding a suitable chica in the afternoon to early evening is a pretty easy thing to do for one who is relaxed, not in a rush, is able to go with the flow and is observant and aware and is able to interact with Colombianos. IMHO, guys who are in a rush, impatient, anxious, nervous, bothered with locals, etc. , tend to miss out on a lot of what may be available to them.

Just my dos centavos.[/QUOTE]Thanks man, I think being patient and dealing with one of the Tonys will be worth my wait. Great advice.

[QUOTE=Hilltopper;1634018]If you are referring to generic Viagra, then yes, walk in and buy it for less than $2 at one of the little pharmacies. They will have several options to choose from, with some being more expensive. I can only vouch for the ones that are under $2, and didn't see a reason to try the higher priced ones.[/QUOTE]Any pharmacies (street names?) you can recommend? Looking for cailis, don't want to get some bad stuff here.

Gracias!

[QUOTE=BigB23;1634116]Thanks man, I think being patient and dealing with one of the Tonys will be worth my wait. Great advice.[/QUOTE]You're welcome. I can share that the most memorable chica experiences over the years from Playa Hollywood for me have just happened when I was just there hanging out without worrying about the time or anxious about finding a chica to bang. The typical scene: A chica with a girlfriend or two, or three, often even including a guy or two, just show-up on the beach not appearing to be there for "work". If one is in a hurry, or grabs the first working girl HE spots 'cause HE's already popped his Vit V, then that moment in time where a gem falls into one's lap is never given the chance to play out.

While I've had many "stick and carrot" scenes with Tony (Tony #1), in the end I know that the guy will work to find something that I like; be it approaching chicas on the beach and bringing them over to introduce themselves, calling up chicas to see if they want to come to the beach, etc. , etc. The most fun has typically taken place when I spot a chica on the beach that I find attractive, ask Tony if HE's seen her before or knows her, HE says "no", but then heads-off to approach her and next thing I know she's standing under my carpa because Tony wants to introduce his gringo friend to her.

Some days I'm not in the mood to deal with Tony, or HE's in a mood that's not compatible with mine, so I spend that day under one of Fao's carpas and let Emily tell me what chica is what and have Jayson scout, call, approach, etc. So what if Tony cops an attitude that day 'cause I'm in one of Fao's carpas, HE'll get over it and I'll hang out with him on another occasion. At times it can be akin to a soap opera scene that I find quite humorous, LOL.

In the end, I don't begrudge guys like Tony and Jayson making 20 mil commission here and there. Heck, they are out there working everyday in the hot, humid equatorial lowlands trying to make a living and provide for their family. All I have to do is ask and they'll run back-and-forth in that hot, humid sun trying to find or retrieve something for me. Works for me.

[QUOTE=Bmvb13;1634268]Any pharmacies (street names?) you can recommend? Looking for cailis, don't want to get some bad stuff here.

Gracias![/QUOTE]I don't have any first-hand experience with Cialis. As to pharmacies and generic Viagra, I've purchased it from 3 or so different places in Laguito and 3 or so places in Bocagrande (on the end nearest Laguito). I've never had any "bad stuff" from any of the pharmacies there. The only occasional hiccup is when one of the clerks grabs a more expensive brand out of the drawer and I have to tell them "no" and talk them down to getting the ones that are three price levels lower and sell for under $2 a pill.

I do know that I gave Jayson a package that contained 2 50 MG pills 'cause HE had some chica blanca on the beach all hot because she wanted to experience some chocolate and the guy took both of them and experienced a heavy dose of "blue flashes". My response when HE told me the next day? "You should have taken a half of one, or at most only one on your first time trying the stuff", LOL.

[QUOTE=Hilltopper;1634330]I don't have any first-hand experience with Cialis. As to pharmacies and generic Viagra, I've purchased it from 3 or so different places in Laguito and 3 or so places in Bocagrande (on the end nearest Laguito). I've never had any "bad stuff" from any of the pharmacies there. The only occasional hiccup is when one of the clerks grabs a more expensive brand out of the drawer and I have to tell them "no" and talk them down to getting the ones that are three price levels lower and sell for under $2 a pill.

I do know that I gave Jayson a package that contained 2 50 MG pills 'cause HE had some chica blanca on the beach all hot because she wanted to experience some chocolate and the guy took both of them and experienced a heavy dose of "blue flashes". My response when HE told me the next day? "You should have taken a half of one, or at most only one on your first time trying the stuff", LOL.[/QUOTE]Great, thanks! Will check out Laguito and Bocagrande places.

P.S: I prefer Cialis. Fewer side effects and longer effects (up to 3-4 days).

[QUOTE=Bmvb13;1634268]Any pharmacies (street names?) you can recommend? Looking for cailis, don't want to get some bad stuff here.
Gracias![/QUOTE]No need to be anxious about that. ANY pharmacy in Colombia sells generic Sildenafil and the price is cheap. Colombian pharmaceutic industry is reputable and with high quality standards.

On the other hand, there is NO generic Cialis or Levitra.

Just go to any pharmacy you see (you may want to choose one when there is not a long queue of people waiting and listening to your discussion with the guy or girl on the other side of the desk) and ask Sildenafil generico. All brands are good. Now I remember only Genfar, but there are several.

I buy my yearly supply of V in Colombia, because it is the only place I visit where it is cheap and sold freely without hassle. It's funny when I go to the pharmacy and ask 10-20 boxes <grin .

[QUOTE=OldParr;1633742]From the newspaper El Espectador today, Friday.

[URL]http://www.elespectador.com/noticias/nacional/imagenes-ponen-al-descubierto-un-prostibulo-bocagrande-articulo-522397[/URL][/QUOTE]

The more I read this and other similar articles on the Colombian press the more I laugh.
Are they so dumb or naif? All this article is laughable. They say they "discovered" a "postribulo", etc. Etc. Wow what amazing detectives!

Actually, this photo does not show a brothel but the (in) famous Casa Golan, which is, with Casa Benjamin, one of the two Israel "private clubs" in Cartagena. Patronized EXCLUSIVELY by Israelian tourists and dozen of chicas, they are not brothels but kind of hotels or holidays "resorts". All girls want to go there, because the guys are extremely handsome (and generous with all kinds of drugs).
Police never goes there to check for "illegal substances". I am trying to guess why....
There are days in CTG when girls seem disappeared from LDV etc. It's when the Israelians organize their parties in some island. 20-30 girls go there and spend 2 days dancing and fucking.

Everyone in Cartagena knows that, except evidently the journalists. They might try to ask a taxi driver next time, when they want to know something about the city where they live.
By the way, I see that now the press is starting to publish photos of those places, presenting them as discoveries. Guess the source of those photos? The Facebook pages of the two clubs. Pathetic.

For the past several years, I have been buying generic viagra in different SA locales including CTG and Lima. Also, for the past several years, I have been having trouble with severe hiccups after ingesting the generic version. This can go on sporadically for days at a time to the point I recently decided that I would have to forgo buying this stimulant in the future.

However, I asked a Peruvian doctor friend of mine about this problem. HE said the ingredient mix is not always precisely the same or it's possible the coating, or lack thereof, on the generic pills may be causing the problem. As a result, the last batch I bought I paid the normal viagra price for the real version and have not had any indigestion or hiccup problems.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;1634375]No need to be anxious about that. ANY pharmacy in Colombia sells generic Sildenafil and the price is cheap. Colombian pharmaceutic industry is reputable and with high quality standards.

On the other hand, there is NO generic Cialis or Levitra.

Just go to any pharmacy you see (you may want to choose one when there is not a long queue of people waiting and listening to your discussion with the guy or girl on the other side of the desk) and ask Sildenafil generico. All brands are good. Now I remember only Genfar, but there are several.

I buy my yearly supply of V in Colombia, because it is the only place I visit where it is cheap and sold freely without hassle. It's funny when I go to the pharmacy and ask 10-20 boxes <grin .[/QUOTE]

Are these prices still about the same?

[QUOTE=SmilinJack;1422163]Gents,

For those who are tired of being ripped off by Tony and the other beach bandits for chairs, beers, etc, here are the

Actual Hollywood Beach prices that the Gringos who live in Cartagena pay (* may be higher in Jan. /Feb.)

A / o May 2013.

Massage, etc.

Full body massage on the beach 20, 000 to 30, 000 COP. Add 5, 000 'propina' if massage is exceptional.

Manicure 10,000.

Pedicure 10,000.

Umbrellas, Chairs, Cabanas...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tomasb;1634433]For the past several years, I have been buying generic viagra in different SA locales including CTG and Lima. Also, for the past several years, I have been having trouble with severe hiccups after ingesting the generic version. This can go on sporadically for days at a time to the point I recently decided that I would have to forgo buying this stimulant in the future.

However, I asked a Peruvian doctor friend of mine about this problem. HE said the ingredient mix is not always precisely the same or it's possible the coating, or lack thereof, on the generic pills may be causing the problem. As a result, the last batch I bought I paid the normal viagra price for the real version and have not had any indigestion or hiccup problems.[/QUOTE]It looks like you work as marketing manager of Pfizer? Generic drugs are exactly the SAME as "original" brands, if produced by reputable industries. What you report is kind of urban legend propagated by pharma industries. Probably a negative placebo effect, unless you bought pills from non-reputable industries.

Why they cost less? They don't have the "added value" of the brand name.

Are Colombian industries reputable? Yes, by all means they follow the same quality standards of Europe or USA industry. I remember Genfar, Colfarma, but there are others too.

Would I buy blue pills available on Internet? No, because they come mostly from India, etc, where the concept of "legal" is fuzzy.

It's not an urban legend. What I described is exactly what I experienced. I am not a chemist and have not compared the label ingredients between generic and non-generic nor do I have at my disposal the equipment to measure the ingredients. All I can say is the last batch of generic V that I bought in CTG, in addition to other generic V purchases, have had a deleterious effect on my esophagus and digestive system. The Pfizer product did not effect me negatively in any way. I have never bought V on-line and all my generic purchases in the past have been at pharmacies in Peru or Colombia.

My physician in Lima suggested that I try the regular V brand and it worked much better. It's as simple as that.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;1634569]It looks like you work as marketing manager of Pfizer? Generic drugs are exactly the SAME as "original" brands, if produced by reputable industries. What you report is kind of urban legend propagated by pharma industries. Probably a negative placebo effect, unless you bought pills from non-reputable industries.

Why they cost less? They don't have the "added value" of the brand name.

Are Colombian industries reputable? Yes, by all means they follow the same quality standards of Europe or USA industry. I remember Genfar, Colfarma, but there are others too.

Would I buy blue pills available on Internet? No, because they come mostly from India, etc, where the concept of "legal" is fuzzy.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BlackPage;1634569]It looks like you work as marketing manager of Pfizer? Generic drugs are exactly the SAME as "original" brands, if produced by reputable industries. What you report is kind of urban legend propagated by pharma industries. Probably a negative placebo effect, unless you bought pills from non-reputable industries.

Why they cost less? They don't have the "added value" of the brand name.

Are Colombian industries reputable? Yes, by all means they follow the same quality standards of Europe or USA industry. I remember Genfar, Colfarma, but there are others too.

Would I buy blue pills available on Internet? No, because they come mostly from India, etc, where the concept of "legal" is fuzzy.[/QUOTE]It is not this black and white. Quality of the ingredients with the correct recipe may vary greatly when manufactured in third world countries. IMO it is safer to pay extra for the non generic ed drugs.

Lasted for days at a time? You didn't know you're supposed to consult with a medical professional should the effect last longer than 4 hours?

[QUOTE=Tomasb;1634433]For the past several years, I have been buying generic viagra in different SA locales including CTG and Lima. Also, for the past several years, I have been having trouble with severe hiccups after ingesting the generic version. This can go on sporadically for days at a time to the point I recently decided that I would have to forgo buying this stimulant in the future.

However, I asked a Peruvian doctor friend of mine about this problem. HE said the ingredient mix is not always precisely the same or it's possible the coating, or lack thereof, on the generic pills may be causing the problem. As a result, the last batch I bought I paid the normal viagra price for the real version and have not had any indigestion or hiccup problems.[/QUOTE]

I went back to the original post you cited, and yes, current pricing was the same when I was last there in May. Just memorize the price for the main items and then when you ask for a carpa with a chair, table, etc, just recite the price out loud with a big smile to let Tony know that you know the prices for everything. Then say. "Tony no fuck me okay". HE'll get a kick out of it, LOL.

[QUOTE=BigB23;1634480]Are these prices still about the same?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hilltopper;1634812]Lasted for days at a time? You didn't know you're supposed to consult with a medical professional should the effect last longer than 4 hours?[/QUOTE]It only happened when I used the generic version. Since I switched to the Real McCoy, I have not had any problems.

[QUOTE=Hilltopper;1634814]I went back to the original post you cited, and yes, current pricing was the same when I was last there in May. Just memorize the price for the main items and then when you ask for a carpa with a chair, table, etc, just recite the price out loud with a big smile to let Tony know that you know the prices for everything. Then say. "Tony no fuck me okay". HE'll get a kick out of it, LOL.[/QUOTE]I know some people have problems with Tony, but he's a hoot. Just make sure you agree on prices beforehand. Even if you just saw him yesterday. If you want to save money on his overpriced drinks, bring a cooler with beer and aguardiente. Give him a shot and a beer every now and then and he'll stop bugging you about buying drinks. I agree that he knows many of the girls on the beach and if even if he doesn't. He will call her over for you even if she is not a pro. I have shown him the pics of chicks I picked up from LDV and heknew probably 90% of them. Tony is a good resource. Just don't give him your phone number. He will blow up your phone trying to send girls over to you at all hours of the day!

I'm glad you got your personal situation corrected. I've only tried the generic versions of Vit V, having purchased it many times in CTG and never having any problems. My conclusion is that neither my experience or your experience can be considered scientific evidence by the next guy, LOL. Various people can have different side effects or none at all. Me personally, I'll continue to just walk-in a local pharmacy while in CTG and buy the cheapest generic they have there, just as I've done dozens of times.

[QUOTE=Tomasb;1634852]It only happened when I used the generic version. Since I switched to the Real McCoy, I have not had any problems.[/QUOTE]

I can appreciate the point you make, but I also know that not everything about Colombia falls neatly into a mindset of viewing it as "third world".

In looking at the version of generic I last bought while in Cartagena, I see that it was manufactured by Lafrancol, a Colombian company with a 100-year history in the the Pharmaceutical and Consumer Goods sectors in Colombia. They have significant sales abroad and are a forerunner in the development and launch of new products. They have an extensive portfolio of products consisting of a wide range of drugs designed to treat different types of diseases, and at the same time meet the needs of patients and physicians, and offering high quality products at a fair price.

[QUOTE=Shamester;1634700]It is not this black and white. Quality of the ingredients with the correct recipe may vary greatly when manufactured in third world countries. IMO it is safer to pay extra for the non generic ed drugs.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the pointer, already memorized. It may come out in the wrong order.

[QUOTE=Hilltopper;1634814]I went back to the original post you cited, and yes, current pricing was the same when I was last there in May. Just memorize the price for the main items and then when you ask for a carpa with a chair, table, etc, just recite the price out loud with a big smile to let Tony know that you know the prices for everything. Then say. "Tony no fuck me okay". HE'll get a kick out of it, LOL.[/QUOTE]

Is Halloween in Cartagena like in the states but better? Do the the chicas wear less. I would love to bang a few sexy pirates.

[QUOTE=Hioctane;1634859]I know some people have problems with Tony, but he's a hoot. Just make sure you agree on prices beforehand. Even if you just saw him yesterday. If you want to save money on his overpriced drinks, bring a cooler with beer and aguardiente. Give him a shot and a beer every now and then and he'll stop bugging you about buying drinks. I agree that he knows many of the girls on the beach and if even if he doesn't. He will call her over for you even if she is not a pro. I have shown him the pics of chicks I picked up from LDV and heknew probably 90% of them. Tony is a good resource. Just don't give him your phone number. He will blow up your phone trying to send girls over to you at all hours of the day![/QUOTE]Fuck him anyone going to Playa Hollywood would be better off sitting in Fao section, which is located next to Tony's. At least you do not have to worry about being ripped off, taken advantage of, and you still will have access to any of the girls on the beach that Tony has, or tell the massage lady Emily who works in the same area what you are looking for, and she will take good care of you without the bullshit you would go through dealing with Tony. Fao and Emily are quality people.

More on the house of prostitution in Bocagrande and the Israelis.

[URL]http://www.eluniversal.com.co/multimedia/galerias-de-fotos/asi-es-por-dentro-la-casa-usada-para-la-prostitucion-en-bocagrande-1272[/URL]

[QUOTE=Shamester;1634700]It is not this black and white. Quality of the ingredients with the correct recipe may vary greatly when manufactured in third world countries. IMO it is safer to pay extra for the non generic ed drugs.[/QUOTE]100% agree till "IMO...". Please note that Colombia is not "Third World" anymore (not in the political sense "extra EU / Extra USA", but in the sense of underdeveloped / underground. Colombia pharma industry has excellent reputation and generic drugs are fully equivalent to branded ones. I trust and buy generic antibiotics in my European country, as well as here in Colombia.
Generic drugs sold in official pharmacies in Colombia are under the strict control of the public health agency, which analyse and monitor compositions etc.

As somebody who will be visiting CTG for the first time, there has been a lot of good information posted over the past week. Like I mentioned before, I have plenty of experience in other cities in Colombia and a handful of other countries. But visiting a new place is always a toss up.

You guys have even provided us general pricing on drinks / cabanas / etc. Thank you for that! Really helps so I don't get ripped off.

From everything I've read, it seems like I'll be having an awesome time!

I do have one last (very general) question, and I'm sure everybody will have their own opinions on this. I'm going with a group of friends and we will mostly be day drinking, partying at night and finding chicas all day / night. Where do you guys recommend that I should go for the best chicas during the day / night? Playa Hollywood seems to be the spot during the day. Relaxing and drinking and just wait for the right chica. What spots are the "go-to" at night? And I'm not a snob, but I would like to find 8's and 9's (10's will probably be too much $$ Since my Medellin trip I've been wanting to go back to Colombia for a long time and I want the creme of the crop! LOL.

Once again, thanks for all the information you guys have provided. Without it, I'd feel so much more lost.

OP, as I wrote in my post here
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?582-Cartagena-Reports&p=1634382&viewfull=1#post1634382[/URL] ,
these articles on "El Universal" are quite misleading, even laughable because they present old stuff like striking news. Naif at best, when they claim that a "postribulo" was discovered thanks to their secret videotaping.

The photos posted here
[URL]http://m.eluniversal.com.co/multimedia/galerias-de-fotos/asi-es-por-dentro-la-casa-usada-para-la-prostitucion-en-bocagrande-1272[/URL]
have nothing secret. They are taken from the public section of the Facebook page of Casa Golan, which is NOT a brothel but just one of the two Israel "private clubs" in Cartagena (the other is Casa Benjamin).
By the way, I recognized a girl in those photos! Someone here will do the same.
Again: those clubs are patronized EXCLUSIVELY by Israelian tourists and dozen of chicas, they are not brothels but kind of hotels or holidays "resorts", and therefore simply FORGET to go there and introduce yourself hoping to be admitted. Since most patrons come from the Israel Army, the security is at maximum levels. If you try to enter without being invited, you may find someone investigating about you (it even happened to a girl I know).
All this publicity on the press will not be appreciated by the managers and patrons of those casas. I guess they will stop parties for a while. Only quiet guys enjoying the beach now.
All girls want to go there, because the guys are extremely handsome and in fit (and generous, not with money <grin> but with all kinds of drugs).

Police never goes there to check for "illegal substances". Those clubs seem to have some extra-territoriality, like an Embassy. Imagine if police enters to check? What can they do after they find drugs? Arresting everyone? Imagine what happens next, when the Colombia Ministry is directly called by its Israel counterpart?

There are even days in CTG when girls seem disappeared from LDV etc. It's when the Israelians organize their parties in some island. 20-30 girls go there and spend 2 days dancing and fucking.
Everyone in Cartagena knows that, except the tourists and evidently the journalist of El Universal. They might try to ask a taxi driver next time, when they want to know something about the city where they live.

To complete the picture about what El Universal is publishing in these days, enjoy the article.
[URL]http://www.eluniversal.com.co/politica/aqui-en-cartagena-no-existe-turismo-sexual-secretaria-de-participacion-174189[/URL]
but especially the Comentarios by the readers.

Good point! I will be in CTG on that Monday, a few days before Halloween, which occurs on the following Friday. Saturday, Nov. 1, is All Saints Day in the US or DIA de LOS Muertos in Latin America and an important date on the Catholic liturgical calendar. It is also the day where many Latin Catholics visit cemeteries to pay respects to their departed family members and friends. I am considering staying in CTG to November 2 to see the festivities if anything is going on. Any intel?

So I am wondering if Halloween in the North American sense is celebrated in CTG with costumes, trick or treat etc? I prefer 'tricks' though. LOL!

[QUOTE=BigB23;1634919]Is Halloween in Cartagena like in the states but better? Do the the chicas wear less. I would love to bang a few sexy pirates.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hilltopper;1634876]I can appreciate the point you make, but I also know that not everything about Colombia falls neatly into a mindset of viewing it as "third world".

In looking at the version of generic I last bought while in Cartagena, I see that it was manufactured by Lafrancol, a Colombian company with a 100-year history in the the Pharmaceutical and Consumer Goods sectors in Colombia. They have significant sales abroad and are a forerunner in the development and launch of new products. They have an extensive portfolio of products consisting of a wide range of drugs designed to treat different types of diseases, and at the same time meet the needs of patients and physicians, and offering high quality products at a fair price.[/QUOTE]Agree- not everything about Colombia is third world. Certainly its banking and infrastructure is first world.

Everyone reacts differently to certain meds. Mongers that have adverse reactions to Colombian generic meds should use USA original medications. It is really a case by case situation.

Coming to Cartagena next week. Anyone care to comment on pickups in Mister Bilbao. I'm hearing that it is another bar to found so, decent mujeres.

Thanks

To Raeder21's point, at night is LDV and the Watch Tower the only places where 100% of the girls are working? If I am at a bar in El Centro will I find some action? Should I believe if a girl is out, dress sexy and without a man as a working girl? I know I have been told I need to be aggressive with these Colombian but I would hate to find a girl I want and she is not a working girl. I am not really into Casas.

Also want if it rain during the day, where should I go. I want to get as much action in as my body take.

[QUOTE=Raeder21;1635067]As somebody who will be visiting CTG for the first time, there has been a lot of good information posted over the past week. Like I mentioned before, I have plenty of experience in other cities in Colombia and a handful of other countries. But visiting a new place is always a toss up.

You guys have even provided us general pricing on drinks / cabanas / etc. Thank you for that! Really helps so I don't get ripped off.

From everything I've read, it seems like I'll be having an awesome time!

I do have one last (very general) question, and I'm sure everybody will have their own opinions on this. I'm going with a group of friends and we will mostly be day drinking, partying at night and finding chicas all day / night. Where do you guys recommend that I should go for the best chicas during the day / night? Playa Hollywood seems to be the spot during the day. Relaxing and drinking and just wait for the right chica. What spots are the "go-to" at night? And I'm not a snob, but I would like to find 8's and 9's (10's will probably be too much $$ Since my Medellin trip I've been wanting to go back to Colombia for a long time and I want the creme of the crop! LOL.

Once again, thanks for all the information you guys have provided. Without it, I'd feel so much more lost.[/QUOTE]

If it rains you will have a tough time. Get numbers from girls you like. Then if it rains you can call them. You will find action everywhere. But it's not like Sosua in dr where there walking around and at every bar. But if it's sunny there are always girls by beach. They smile you smile. Before long your balls deep!

[QUOTE=BigB23;1635826]To Raeder21's point, at night is LDV and the Watch Tower the only places where 100% of the girls are working? If I am at a bar in El Centro will I find some action? Should I believe if a girl is out, dress sexy and without a man as a working girl? I know I have been told I need to be aggressive with these Colombian but I would hate to find a girl I want and she is not a working girl. I am not really into Casas.

Also want if it rain during the day, where should I go. I want to get as much action in as my body take.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BigB23;1635826]To Raeder21's point, at night is LDV and the Watch Tower the only places where 100% of the girls are working? If I am at a bar in El Centro will I find some action? Should I believe if a girl is out, dress sexy and without a man as a working girl? I know I have been told I need to be aggressive with these Colombian but I would hate to find a girl I want and she is not a working girl. I am not really into Casas.

Also want if it rain during the day, where should I go. I want to get as much action in as my body take.[/QUOTE]Just talk to her and treat her like a regular girl and see what happens. Most will make it perfectly clear if they are working.

[QUOTE=JoeySmith;1635809]Coming to Cartagena next week. Anyone care to comment on pickups in Mister Bilbao. I'm hearing that it is another bar to found so, decent mujeres.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Working girls are scattered all over. It is not in Colombian culture to make the first move. If you are interested, go talk to her like a real girl. If she is working, she will make it clear before you go back.

[QUOTE=BigB23;1635826]To Raeder21's point, at night is LDV and the Watch Tower the only places where 100% of the girls are working?[/QUOTE]LDV is 100%. Watch tower is 95%. Sometimes a unsuspecting tourist will go sit on a bench. LOL. BTW, by the Watch Tower, there is this Colombian guy that speaks English that says he can hook you up. He will probably expect a tip, but if you don't speak Spanish, it's an option.

[QUOTE=YouCan;1635865]If it rains you will have a tough time. Get numbers from girls you like. Then if it rains you can call them. You will find action everywhere. But it's not like Sosua in dr where there walking around and at every bar. But if it's sunny there are always girls by beach. They smile you smile. Before long your balls deep![/QUOTE][QUOTE=OldParr;1633614]Not much of a report of your trip to Medellin, and you did promise a report so why not honor your word and post a report? What you did post was very very lame, and contained no information what so ever that could be beneficial to others. How about sharing with us other bars or restaurants you went to, pricing, how about a comparison between Cartagena and Medellin? Your thoughts on what you liked and did not like about Medellin? How was the quality of the girls? How and where did you find the apartment you rented? Would you stay in it again?

Come on You Can, honor your word about providing a report, you can do it! Your kindness in providing the information I requested would be most helpful to many.[/QUOTE]You always fail to honor your promises You Can? You promised to post a report about your experiences in Medellin, but only posted some lame chit. How about giving back to the forum and answering my questions in my post above, as your feedback can be beneficial to others, especially those who are contemplating going to Medellin or Cartagena.

[QUOTE=JoeySmith;1635809]Coming to Cartagena next week. Anyone care to comment on pickups in Mister Bilbao. I'm hearing that it is another bar to found so, decent mujeres.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Well, decent indeed.

[URL]http://www.misterbabilla.com/fotos/fotosrumba.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=Questner;1636029]Well, decent indeed.

[URL]http://www.misterbabilla.com/fotos/fotosrumba.html[/URL][/QUOTE]It is not a pickup bar / disco. Most of those that go to Mr. Babillas are couples or friends in groups. If you go there expecting to find someone, you more than likely will come away disappointed. Tu Candela is much better for this, and then you also have the all the girls hanging out outside the place and in the Plaza.

I would appreciate if anybody who is there in CTG would report how is the situation in these days, after the local press started the campaign against prostitution and the police to enforce controls. I heard that police closed a few clubs at Bomba de el Amparo and started to push away girls from Reloy.

Is LDV up and running? What about other clubs? Thank you.

By chance, is his name Henry?

[QUOTE=Hioctane;1635894]LDV is 100%. Watch tower is 95%. Sometimes a unsuspecting tourist will go sit on a bench. LOL. BTW, by the Watch Tower, there is this Colombian guy that speaks English that says he can hook you up. He will probably expect a tip, but if you don't speak Spanish, it's an option.[/QUOTE]

After the raid by my beach home of a sex tour ring that was operating in South and Central America, Cartagena has some new systems in place! All taxi drivers are to report ant tourist or local requesting info. On sex. Yep! They run the risk of loosing the Taxi license and a heafty fine for not reporting you. So if you read my other post. Buyer Beware, Cartagena after Obama denied any wrong doing by the Secret Service scandal, and now the sex ring bust, well, be careful, its on the radar map!

WTF? So is the action gone?

[QUOTE=Jchipper;1636505]After the raid by my beach home of a sex tour ring that was operating in South and Central America, Cartagena has some new systems in place! All taxi drivers are to report ant tourist or local requesting info. On sex. Yep! They run the risk of loosing the Taxi license and a heafty fine for not reporting you. So if you read my other post. Buyer Beware, Cartagena after Obama denied any wrong doing by the Secret Service scandal, and now the sex ring bust, well, be careful, its on the radar map![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldParr;1636049]It is not a pickup bar / disco. Most of those that go to Mr. Babillas are couples or friends in groups. If you go there expecting to find someone, you more than likely will come away disappointed. Tu Candela is much better for this, and then you also have the all the girls hanging out outside the place and in the Plaza.[/QUOTE]Old Par is absolutely right. Mr Babilla is where you take your girl after the negotitiations are done (for some foreplay dancing in a less crowded setting), away from the hungry eyes of the other competing mongers. There are working girls there but they are already hooked up with guys. They don't go there to get picked up.

[QUOTE=Jchipper;1636505]After the raid by my beach home of a sex tour ring that was operating in South and Central America, Cartagena has some new systems in place! All taxi drivers are to report ant tourist or local requesting info. On sex. Yep! They run the risk of loosing the Taxi license and a heafty fine for not reporting you. So if you read my other post. Buyer Beware, Cartagena after Obama denied any wrong doing by the Secret Service scandal, and now the sex ring bust, well, be careful, its on the radar map![/QUOTE]This seems a little extreme LOL.

[QUOTE=Jchipper;1636505]After the raid by my beach home of a sex tour ring that was operating in South and Central America, Cartagena has some new systems in place! All taxi drivers are to report ant tourist or local requesting info. On sex. Yep! They run the risk of loosing the Taxi license and a heafty fine for not reporting you. So if you read my other post. Buyer Beware, Cartagena after Obama denied any wrong doing by the Secret Service scandal, and now the sex ring bust, well, be careful, its on the radar map![/QUOTE]Jchipper, any monger should be fine as long as he / she doesn't request for sex with young girls and boys under 18, colombian law is very serious about children and teenagers being sexually exploited, everyone be careful when taking a chica out of LDV, sometimes these chicas are under 18 with fake I'd's, have seen foreigners being hussled by the police for having with them chicas whom were 16 or under 18 with fake I'd's.

[QUOTE=Jchipper;1636505]After the raid by my beach home of a sex tour ring that was operating in South and Central America, Cartagena has some new systems in place! All taxi drivers are to report ant tourist or local requesting info. On sex. Yep! They run the risk of loosing the Taxi license and a heafty fine for not reporting you. So if you read my other post. Buyer Beware, Cartagena after Obama denied any wrong doing by the Secret Service scandal, and now the sex ring bust, well, be careful, its on the radar map![/QUOTE]So how the hell do they know who you are in order to report you?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1637666]So how the hell do they know who you are in order to report you?[/QUOTE]My guess is if the taxi driver takes you to a sex location it could easily call the police. Identifying is easy since you are a gringo.

This information is forcing me to reevaluate Cartagena. Maybe Cali?

Any other suggestions other than Cartagena, Bogota, Medellin or Cali?

[QUOTE=Shamester;1637722]My guess is if the taxi driver takes you to a sex location it could easily call the police. Identifying is easy since you are a gringo.

This information is forcing me to reevaluate Cartagena. Maybe Cali?

Any other suggestions other than Cartagena, Bogota, Medellin or Cali?[/QUOTE]Really. Much ado about nothing.

Do not feed the trolls.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;1637976]Do not feed the trolls.[/QUOTE]Are you implying there is no crackdown of prostitution in Cartagena?

Please provide information on the current environment.

[QUOTE=Jchipper;1636505]After the raid by my beach home of a sex tour ring that was operating in South and Central America, Cartagena has some new systems in place! All taxi drivers are to report ant tourist or local requesting info. On sex. Yep! They run the risk of loosing the Taxi license and a heafty fine for not reporting you. So if you read my other post. Buyer Beware, Cartagena after Obama denied any wrong doing by the Secret Service scandal, and now the sex ring bust, well, be careful, its on the radar map![/QUOTE]You come across sincere but I agree with other posters and I call BS on this info. Someone is feeding you some nonsense.

FYI: black Page -- Just sent you a PM but your box is full.

So prostitution is still legal in Colombia? Am I missing something? What's with all this paranoia sex gringo bullshit? It's not like they just changed their laws all of the sudden.

[QUOTE=Tomasb;1638219]FYI: black Page -- Just sent you a PM but your box is full.[/QUOTE]Ooooops thanks! Ok now.

Same for Vitrea. I wanted to write you, but your mail box was full.

So, I am only here a few nights, but obviously from seeing my handle, you guys know I am happy to be here.

Where can I go for a nice erotic massage from a big booty Colombian gal with possible bonus play?

What is safe? Any advice?

[QUOTE=LoveBigBooty;1638896]Where can I go for a nice erotic massage from a big booty Colombian gal[/QUOTE]Just fuck her, it will be cheaper, and more enjoyable.

Crowded last night at LDV. Lots of options for those in town. Just be prepared to deal with forking some money over for drinks before you leave with your selection. Mgmt was watching closely.

[QUOTE=JoeySmith;1639254]Crowded last night at LDV. Lots of options for those in town. Just be prepared to deal with forking some money over for drinks before you leave with your selection. Mgmt was watching closely.[/QUOTE]Good news! I will be there next week.

Rates demanded by girls? You were able to negotiate down to?

(sorry for asking: D).

[QUOTE=BlackPage;1639273]Good news! I will be there next week.

Rates demanded by girls? You were able to negotiate down to?

(sorry for asking: D).[/QUOTE]Yes. Was able to negotiate with several of the ladies in the 6-8 range. The hotties forget about it. Some sucker will pay their 300 or 400 peso price.

Arrived in Cartagena last night from Santa Marta. Will post separate report for SMR soon.

Heavy rain last night which cooled things off nicely for the evening. Quite a lot of people out for Halloween plus a big concert in plaza near Reloj that was still going on at 1:15 am. Reloj area had quite a few girls walking about and more arrived as the evening progressed. However, did not see anything of interest. Since I was spoiled for three days in SMR, I could not see inviting anyone back to my El Centro apartment.

Really, the talent was only so-so. This morning the area where I am staying near the University of Cartagena was bustling with normal and pretty girls. Alas, none of them of the working variety. I suppose if you were living / working here these girls are attainable but only eye candy for me.

A friend of mine here said this week the Reloj area had vendor tents set up that are normally by Plaza Bolivar. This blocked the area off and he said seemed to limit the action in Reloj or Plaza de Coches as it is also known. Basically, the open area between the wall and Tu Candeleria had tents set up all the way to the statue. Whether this was intentional or not to impede foot traffic, it is difficult to say. However, the tents were back in their normal location in Bolivar last night.

Also, noticed a nice looking new English pub called the The Clock Pub near the statue in the white building with blue shutters.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;1639273]Good news! I will be there next week.

Rates demanded by girls? You were able to negotiate down to?

(sorry for asking: D).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JoeySmith;1639623]Yes. Was able to negotiate with several of the ladies in the 6-8 range. The hotties forget about it. Some sucker will pay their 300 or 400 peso price.[/QUOTE]300-400 for TLN, I hope.

Would you be so kind to give some various examples of fees you heard from girls' mouth, and then obtained after negotiation, with your 6-8 girls? ST or TLN?

I understand I seem over-demanding, but any data you may provide would be extremely useful. Thanks.

Was at the clock tower last night and was not going to partake as I had to assist my friend who had his smart phone stolen last night.

Apparently, two trannies walking by the vicinity of Calle de Moneda were strolling toward him and when he walked by them, one trannie grabbed him by the crotch while the other quickly rifled his pocket and took his phone. He did not know it happened until ten minutes later. Classic gambit! I actually got in an argument near the Reloj last night with some Colombian guy who kept trying to grab me about going into some club, which I think was ISIS.

So I was talking to a somewhat chubby morena when my friend came over to explain his phone situation and she was very sympathetic and seemed genuinely nice unlike some of the too professional attitudes down at the Reloj. Even though she was too chubby for my taste, I decided to break my routine of little spinners and flacas and worked out a deal with her for TLN. The first time session went quite well so no complaints but I noticed that she was fiddling with her cell phone before we went to sleep. A few minutes later, she got a call that she claimed came from her mother and said her son had a fever and she needed to go. I said something about that being a familiar story, which she took offense too, and then claimed that TLN ends at 5 am anyway. It was about 4:30 am. I gave her my walking papers immediately as I don't need this nonsense. Her name is Manuela from somewhere in CTG.

Last night around the Reloj had the best looking girls in the last few days since I have been here. Though most seemed quite pro like. I met these two attractive young girls from Bucaramanga who told me about their exploits at Babar the night before and how she really got pounded and had two orgasms with some young Colombian guy. Pretty funny. But even these two appeared to be real pros and one claimed to be 19. Her name was Yulieth.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;1639669]300-400 for TLN, I hope.

Would you be so kind to give some various examples of fees you heard from girls' mouth, and then obtained after negotiation, with your 6-8 girls? ST or TLN?

I understand I seem over-demanding, but any data you may provide would be extremely useful. Thanks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tomasb;1640129]
Apparently, two trannies walking by the vicinity of Calle de Moneda were strolling toward him and when he walked by them, one trannie grabbed him by the crotch while the other quickly rifled his pocket and took his phone. He did not know it happened until ten minutes later. Classic gambit! I actually got in an argument near the Reloj last night with some Colombian guy who kept trying to grab me about going into some club, which I think was ISIS.[/QUOTE]
You might like to read my old post in the Bogota thread:
[I]02-21-12 03:19 #2948[/I] about cosquilleros.
The link should be.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?580-Bogota-Reports&p=1250156&viewfull=1#post1250156[/URL]
But it does not work! However, today it is at page 60. It will shift back. I must copy it here.

[B]Cosquilleros [/B]

A taxi driver told me that Santa Fe is becoming the reign of cosquilleros, that is those girls or TVs who put hands on you, touching your dick (huevo) and everywhere, and with incredible ability take out things from your pocket and disappear.

It is TRUE. It happened to me TWICE in one evening in the streets of Santa Fe this week. Incredible enough, because in many years I go to Santa Fe that happened to me only once before. A girl at Manizalitas two years ago started to touch my dick and, with the other hand, was able to remove the wallet from the front pocket, empty it (20 k) and leave it to fall on the floor before I would realize that my pocket was empty.

Things are changing? More cosquilleros out there? These are the two episodes, happened to me one after the other in ONE hour around 1 am-2 am this week.

1) I cross the CL. 20, lonely street except a group of TVs. Shit! One of them, very tall, walks straight to me while I cross the road to keep distance from them. He starts to touch my dick and everywhere. I keep my hands INSIDE the two front pockets, where I keep my things, and I feel his hands touching my cock, pressing the back pockets (ahah! Only a dirty nose tissue) , then trying to enter the front pockets. I keep on walking and pushing him away with my chest, with my hands always in the pockets. Finally he tells me bad words and goes away.

2) A very fat woman, in a group of 6-7 girls in front of Paisas, approaches me offering his mouth services with "graphic language" (ahah, let's use the US political language) , touching my cock and everywhere. Same as before, I keep my hands in the pockets, but this time is more difficult. After some exploration from outside, she PUTS her hands in my pockets. There is no room for two hands in one pocket, so my hands start a battle to push my things down and her fingers up. All this while she keeps on telling me how she would suck me and almost licking my face. I finally push her away with my chest, almost violently. In my pockets I had many things, incl. A poor mobile phone, my watch, coins, loose money, my wallet, a nose spray, but I saved everything from her fingers.

Beware of cosquilleros!

(and, it does not matter if a TV is touching your cock or putting a finger in your ass, never extract your hands from your pockets).

[QUOTE=Tomasb;1640129]Was at the clock tower last night and was not going to partake as I had to assist my friend who had his smart phone stolen last night.

Apparently, two trannies walking by the vicinity of Calle de Moneda were strolling toward him and when he walked by them, one trannie grabbed him by the crotch while the other quickly rifled his pocket and took his phone. He did not know it happened until ten minutes later. Classic gambit! I actually got in an argument near the Reloj last night with some Colombian guy who kept trying to grab me about going into some club, which I think was ISIS.

So I was talking to a somewhat chubby morena when my friend came over to explain his phone situation and she was very sympathetic and seemed genuinely nice unlike some of the too professional attitudes down at the Reloj. Even though she was too chubby for my taste, I decided to break my routine of little spinners and flacas and worked out a deal with her for TLN. The first time session went quite well so no complaints but I noticed that she was fiddling with her cell phone before we went to sleep. A few minutes later, she got a call that she claimed came from her mother and said her son had a fever and she needed to go. I said something about that being a familiar story, which she took offense too, and then claimed that TLN ends at 5 am anyway. It was about 4:30 am. I gave her my walking papers immediately as I don't need this nonsense. Her name is Manuela from somewhere in CTG.

Last night around the Reloj had the best looking girls in the last few days since I have been here. Though most seemed quite pro like. I met these two attractive young girls from Bucaramanga who told me about their exploits at Babar the night before and how she really got pounded and had two orgasms with some young Colombian guy. Pretty funny. But even these two appeared to be real pros and one claimed to be 19. Her name was Yulieth.[/QUOTE]I've said this periodically, but (IMO) it makes no sense to agree on TLN with a chica you haven't been with before. It's become a basic rule for me over the years. Once you've boned her, assuming you have a bit of chemistry, is the time to raise the possibility of staying all night. You usually pay less that way. I've actually had TLNs for nothing more than a promise of breakfast or taxi fare in the morning.

Bargaining for all night has no upside and lots of downside. You're likely going to pay a high rate, and you have the risk of being stuck with a bad-performer in your bed all night. Or worse, a chica who is obnoxious and you don't want next to you all night.

[QUOTE=Combo;1640180]I've said this periodically, but (IMO) it makes no sense to agree on TLN with a chica you haven't been with before. It's become a basic rule for me over the years. Once you've boned her, assuming you have a bit of chemistry, is the time to raise the possibility of staying all night. You usually pay less that way. I've actually had TLNs for nothing more than a promise of breakfast or taxi fare in the morning.

Bargaining for all night has no upside and lots of downside. You're likely going to pay a high rate, and you have the risk of being stuck with a bad-performer in your bed all night. Or worse, a chica who is obnoxious and you don't want next to you all night.[/QUOTE]I feel the same way, same experiences about TLN.

I've been as I'm sure we've all been with girls, even hot girls, that you just can't wait to get rid of, after back at your pad.

Yes, I generally agree with your philosophy. The only reason I decided to go for TLN was due to the lateness of the hour as I wanted to bang her when we got back to my apartment and once in the morning since I wanted to sleep a little bit in between. This whole thing unfolded within a different time frame than I had expected as I needed to assist my friend who had his cell phone stolen.

I returned to the US yesterday but not before one final night of fun in CTG. I had been considering one or two of these petite girls from Bucaramanga currently lurking about the Reloj area. They are friends and wanted me to do a threesome, which I figured would consist of one girl on her phone while I kept up appearances with the other. When I arrived a the Reloj, I spoke to them briefly but decided they appeared a bit too smug and pro for my tastes. The talent on Sunday was not all that great but after several minutes, a pretty and petite paisa appeared in front of me and I beckoned her to sit down.

Her stage name was Lucy and she said that she hailed from MDE in Sabaneta and had only been there a week and it was her first time to CTG. She showed me a photo of her daughter, which was a first for me, and said she was not working in MDE. She did not seem the type to work at a MDE casa either. Virtually all FL's, in my experience, will acknowledge they have children, but she was the first to actually show me a photo of her child. Anyway, she seemed to have the non-pro attitude I prefer so we negotiated the price and she came back to my apartment.

After she removed her clothes (with my help), I was stunned by how perfect her body was. You would NOT have known she had children. Then, there was a bit of a snag as she wanted to be paid first and I said no. Told her that no one else in CTG had asked to be paid beforehand and I started to put my clothes back on. Then, she appeared startled and she said what about in MDE and I said we are not in MDE. After my retort, she immediately backtracked and we got down to business. I love a little DATY first and she enjoyed it so much that she finally started to squeeze her legs, and after considerable moaning, pushed my head away though not before getting very wet. Her clit was huge by now -- Quite the turn-on. She also liked to kiss, which we had discussed beforehand and she readily offered her tongue. Kissing, as we know, is a difficult requirement to fulfill with FL's here.

Her best skill was giving head. After I had a nice orgasm, she eyed my still hard cock and stripped off the condom. I pushed her head down, and without objection, she proceeded to begin to give me another orgasm. Not sure, I have ever come so quickly after my first orgasm. I notice that sometimes with V, this is a pleasant side effect.

Basically, I have had really good luck around the Reloj. This includes prior trips to CTG though it was interesting to see that I virtually did not see any girls from other trips. That being said, I think spending some time talking to the girls and expressing interest in their personal lives goes a long way in establishing a rapport regardless of where you meet them. I also exchanged numbers via What's App with Lucy for my next trip to MDE. She is planning on returning to MDE in a month and is sharing a cheap hotel somewhere outside ElCentro. I think the price for her room is $50 COP and she shares this cost with a roomie.

Since I am already corresponding with a beauty from MDE that I met in Santa Marta, it will be nice to have a few girls to contact even before I arrive in MDE.

Over and out.

[QUOTE=Ricker;1640360]I feel the same way, same experiences about TLN.

I've been as I'm sure we've all been with girls, even hot girls, that you just can't wait to get rid of, after back at your pad.[/QUOTE]

The trip was amazing and the girls were insane. We went to LDV and Pley Club every night. All said, I paid between 250 k-500 k every night for TLN with 8+ including bar fees, all places charge 100 k in drinks or cash. If the girl is a second rounder for the night you don't have to pay a bar fee. The beach was fun but they will try to scam you. The food service sucks, 2 hours for lunch on hard chairs sucks. My only advise is to not wait for the girls, you need to go get them and negotiate and state want you are want upfront. The hotter she is the more she will start at, when she says 800-900 k just laugh, you can have that one for 300-400 k plus a bar fee. These girls love to party hard. Also I had no problem with the people, taxis, girls, police or street sales men, I was able to walk around freely and felt safe all the night.

I found this Cartagena prepago website. It is in Spanish:

[URL]http://www.chicasprepagocolombia.com/v01/cartagenacaliente.com/[/URL]

[URL]http://www.chicasprepagocolombia.com/v01/cartagenacaliente.com/quienes-somos[/URL]

I translated the front page with google translate. You can just type the website on [URL]https://translate.google.com/[/URL] and you can translate the whole site from Spanish to English or other language. Here is the translated info:

This site contains pornographic material for adults only. To access this content you. Declares to be of age and not considered offensive to erotic material.

[URL]Cartagenacaliente.com[/URL] aims, just listing the best and most beautiful escorts, pre-payments and Cartagena.

Hookers in Cartagena map:

Gethsemane.

Walking from the Clock Tower after eight in the evening, on a tour of Gethsemane different prostitutes ranging in price and look beautiful. It is safest not to go far in streets like Arsenal and best to stay in front of the Convention Center. However, whether for a few beers, always worth strolling through Gethsemane.

Bocagrande and Little Lake.

The best area of Cartagena hotel boasts large, upscale, expensive apartments and hookers everywhere. Some professionals are accommodated in the San Martin Avenue and other, more exclusive, care home in hotel rooms and apartments in the neighborhood. However, on the second floor of the Pierino Gallo shopping center -carrera 1 1 A bouncers promise "everything" in La Dolce Vita. What you choose is "to go".

Forest.

In this large residential and commercial area go unnoticed, without disguise, the most famous brothels between Cartagena. Some have notice on your door, but if you tell the taxi driver to take you "outside the Supreme", find a good destination with comfortable prices. Ask for Luxor 2 -after the scale, toll-like before, -so Pleyclub with E-, International and Stockings, which are in the freight corridor and open their doors every night.

Country.

Paradise Marine is perhaps the best club in Cartagena: spacious, open 24 hours, it describes itself as the place "where the pleasure never ends", it is safe and with an offer that gives you the right to claim that Colombian women are the best in the world. Local tradition is that girls are to wear. For those unfamiliar with the city can get quite complicated.

Antwerp.

This is a popular neighborhood of steep streets and little security. However, all Cartagena know where "the house of Dew", famous for having erotic massage with best price and highest quality of the city is. Of course, with a little more money massage can become something more. It is no exaggeration: a long line of taxis parked on the block confirms that drivers are willing to wait at the door for you to leave.

Bazurto.

This tour can be depressing and is best done accompanied by some native and not wonder where is the police while all sorts of crimes in the eyes of passers make. In the most dangerous area of Cartagena Women of all ages are distributed -admitámoslo: there are also smaller working- willing to do anything for any amount of money. Never hurts to continue to report what happens in Bazurto.

Avenida Pedro de Heredia.

In the most important avenue of Cartagena is all, but among the Estadio El Amparo and there are several options: from homosexual prostitution in the Paseo de la Castellana, to places like Chica Rica Cacique -along Show at petrol station Amparo, Allondra front -right or Bonanza Square Toros-. A tour after ten o'clock at night can show the different facets of this area including motels and very affordable prices.

[QUOTE=Cerebro;1642824]I found this Cartagena prepago website. It is in Spanish:
[/QUOTE]I would recommend to browse back and read this thread, instead of citing such old "reports" which actually say nothing but questionable glimpses of nothing.

BTW: Getsemani was like they say on that web site AT LEAST 5 YEARS AGO. Now it's the epicenter of night life.

I am just back from a "work" trip to CTG, certainly sided by significant leisure activities.

LDV

Same talent and atmosphere I remembered from previous visits, months or years ago.

Few guys (mainly gringos), many girls, generally over-demanding. That's the point: the typical customer at LDV is a gringo who rents an apartment at Laguito, goes to Playa Hollywood daytime, just crosses the street to go to LDV at night. It's natural that prices there are high (min 250/1 rato).

My friends (work colleagues actually) chose two girls without thinking much, in 5 minutes. They were both disappointed. One even sent out the girl annoyed by her bad attitude.

I spent my time with one of my old regs: a mulata who has been hanging around LDV and the like since 1-2 years at least. No surprise for me: I had my 2 hours of good fun at LDV, then at Tu Candela, and later in my apartment. I expected she would have stayed to sleep till morning, but she left quickly after the deed. We did not discuss money. I put 250 in her purse in the morning.

Me and my friends never came back to LDV the next days: too much natural talent at Reloj and a cheaper price.

RELOJ

Lots, lots of girls of any type, except naif, innocent, "new fresh schoolgirl" style. I lost hope. I must be patient and wait my next trip to KL and Batam to enjoy Sailor Moon style. Here, all are well seasoned pros, with significant experience on field (which may be good or bad, depending on the perspective).

I found a stunning paisa, who demanded me 200 short time, downgradable to 150. Expensive from my point of view, but in line with CTG. Hot, but definitely professional.

Next day, I called her proposing to invite her out for dinner and to spend the whole night with me. He asked 700 for TLN. Proposal rejected.

My friends found several girls suitable for their taste at Reloj.
In particular, one of my friends has a fixation for anal: he was able to find every night a different nice looking (on the slutty side) girl able to cater his needs (but he paid 300 tip included). He was simply enthusiast!

My last night (Saturday), I met again my paisa around midnight at Reloj. I missed her smile. She is not a bad girl. We agreed on 400 for TLN (including rumba! That is what I like most when I am in CTG with girls) after lots of negotiation (the alternative for me was to find a regular one for 250, but it was my last night and I wanted it great).

We went to Fragma, where the program was focused on the concert of nobody-less-than FARRUKO, one of the major Reggaetton stars. Imagine how crazy she was when he entered the stage and started to sing (at 3 am). I think I gave her a big gift, beside the 400.

We went back to my apartment at 5 am. She woke up at 10 am, after having warned me that she wanted to leave at 7 am.

PS:
For those who don't know Farruko and wish to feel nostalgy by hearing some good Latin Spanish, here he is
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-kkX2UuBcg[/URL]

[QUOTE=IMissMillenium;1643771]I have been traveling to Bogota for about a month now on business. I had read through forum posts and PM'ed Aunsa to meet up for some beers per one of his posts. We hung out a few times, he showed me around the spots in Sante Fe and some other areas. He seemed to know the areas well, spoke both Spanish and English, and was about the same age as me, and all seemed cool.

After a week or so, he asked me if I was interested in attending a "playboy mansion-style" party at a house outside of Bogota that would include food, drinks and 25 girls, for which he needed a payment + deposit of $400 USD. We had some back and forth discussion, and I agreed to attend (and paid him the $400 in cash. See "receipt" he gave me attached. Does not include the $100 deposit he requested afterwards), and I even cancelled a weekend trip to Peru to attend the "party"...[/QUOTE][URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=1643771[/URL]

Another member having problems with this guy so beware I guess, since he is trying to rent apartments to members of the forum.

This map has a nice outline of some of main areas to get the chicas in Cartagena, Medellin, Bogota, and Cali.

[URL]http://www.revistadonjuan.com/multimedia/mapa-de-putas-colombia[/URL]

[QUOTE=BlackPage;1643905]Few guys (mainly gringos), many girls, generally over-demanding. That's the point: the typical customer at LDV is a gringo who rents an apartment at Laguito, goes to Playa Hollywood daytime, just crosses the street to go to LDV at night. It's natural that prices there are high (min 250/1 rato).
[/QUOTE]Beach then LDV. Rinse and repeat. Sounds about right. LOL.

250ST sounds about right. 200 if you can negotiate a little. I have been saying this the last couple of years. Where are the guys insisting they can still get ST for 150 k and even 100 k at LDV?

[QUOTE=Hioctane;1644584]Beach then LDV. Rinse and repeat. Sounds about right. LOL.

250ST sounds about right. 200 if you can negotiate a little. I have been saying this the last couple of years. Where are the guys insisting they can still get ST for 150 k and even 100 k at LDV?[/QUOTE]100 k or 150 k only at Reloy. Experience is not necessarily lower than from LDV. Just cheaper.

On my last night there a few weeks ago, I went with a girl from Medellin for ST. She initially quote me $200 COP. When I balked, she quickly went down to $150 COP. It was a Sunday so not not a lot of punters but quite a few ladies so the competition was tough. She was quite attractive, petite, wearing tight little jean shorts. Dark hair. I wrote a report on it.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;1644959]100 k or 150 k only at Reloy. Experience is not necessarily lower than from LDV. Just cheaper.[/QUOTE]

Thanks Black Page for the info about Reloj.

I was in Cartagena once about 5 years ago.

Never heard of Reloj. Can you tell me where it is?

Is it in Centro, or near La Dolce Vita, or where?

Any further info on Reloj?

[QUOTE=HenryR;1645795]Thanks Black Page for the info about Reloj.
I was in Cartagena once about 5 years ago.
Never heard of Reloj. Can you tell me where it is?
Is it in Centro, or near La Dolce Vita, or where?
Any further info on Reloj?[/QUOTE]ROFL!! "Reloj" = "Clock". It's the square at the Watch Tower, the main gate to enter the walls.

Hello,

First time I will be in Cartagena in January (1-8).

Not a good time I think, hotels are very expensive. Last time in Cali I have no problems with chicas. In burdeles I pay 70 cop for 1 hour, 100 with ass, but usually I take girls from Chipichape centre and any cafe's for free.

Today I read reports about Cartagena.

Thanks for useful info.

So as I understand:

The price of best chicas in Cartagena in DV - 300-400 cop for short time?

And I must drink no less than 80 cop?

What they suggest for this price? Classic, BJ without condom? Ass? Kisses?

What the price for example of the bottle of ron or vodka?

What about cafe del Mar? In wiki I read that I can meet several nice chicas there in any time. Its true?

I never met anyone in Cafe del Mar. It's difficult because girls will sit at tables and many times, they are only tourists having a drink so they are not easy to approach. You need some game. I do see some hot girls there but frequently they already have male company. It's also very expensive to drink there.

Several years ago, I was in Cartagena and met a British guy who picked up one of the waitresses at Cafe del Mar by arranging to meet her after work. She ended up staying with him at the Relax Hostal in Getsamani for several days. The waitresses generally come from poor provinces and stay together in dismal accommodations outside of Cartagena proper so it I think it was relatively easy for him to suggest another more comfortable option. Many of the waitresses are young and pretty cute.

You only have to pay the prices you mention if you go to LDV. The Reloj girls come out after 10 pm and their prices are significantly cheaper and they are much more negotiable. You can order cheap drinks from the vendors who sell booze near the benches in the plaza de Coches at the Reloj. It's a cheap and an entertaining night out.

Look forward to your report.

[QUOTE=Mickey27;1647990]Hello,

First time I will be in Cartagena in January (1-8).

Not a good time I think, hotels are very expensive. Last time in Cali I have no problems with chicas. In burdeles I pay 70 cop for 1 hour, 100 with ass, but usually I take girls from Chipichape centre and any cafe's for free.

Today I read reports about Cartagena.

Thanks for useful info.

So as I understand:

The price of best chicas in Cartagena in DV - 300-400 cop for short time?

And I must drink no less than 80 cop?

What they suggest for this price? Classic, BJ without condom? Ass? Kisses?

What the price for example of the bottle of ron or vodka?

What about cafe del Mar? In wiki I read that I can meet several nice chicas there in any time. Its true?[/QUOTE]

Mickey, not only are the accomodations more expensive during that week, but even more of a hinddrance will be that it's family time, resulting in slim pickings when it comes to girls working. Better to go a week, even two weeks later, unless you have an amiganovia, etc.

[QUOTE=Tomasb;1648075]I never met anyone in Cafe del Mar. ...

You only have to pay the prices you mention if you go to LDV. The Reloj girls come out after 10 pm and their prices are significantly cheaper and they are much more negotiable. You can order cheap drinks from the vendors who sell booze near the benches in the plaza de Coches at the Reloj. It's a cheap and an entertaining night out.

Look forward to your report.[/QUOTE]Ok, thanks for info about cafe del Mar.

Yes I read about Reloj too and sure I will go there at one of the day).

I am registered here only 1 day, but I am promise to do report and show photos of chicas at future trip).

My experience with Latin girls not big, because I live very far from this places, so I want to see what members mean when they give 7-10 points to the chicas from LDV).

Thank you!

[QUOTE=Hilltopper;1648114]Mickey, not only are the accomodations more expensive during that week, but even more of a hinddrance will be that it's family time, resulting in slim pickings when it comes to girls working. Better to go a week, even two weeks later, unless you have an amiganovia, etc.[/QUOTE]Hilltopper hello!

Yes, you are right. But I already bought tickets. After Cartagena I will fly to Cali (8-19 January). So if I have not good time in Cartagena, I am sure that Cali's chicas could help me forgot negative emotions.

I have one (novia) in facebook, but its not my Latin queen if you understand)- good girl, maybe fuckable for 1 or 2 days, not more 6 points).

Mickey27,

Check the Cartagena hotel and apartments area of the site. Also, check the board member Aunsa. He has apartments in Cartagena reasonably price. I already booked a studio with him for a couple of days for December for just us $30.

[QUOTE=Mickey27;1647990]Hello,

First time I will be in Cartagena in January (1-8).

Not a good time I think, hotels are very expensive. Last time in Cali I have no problems with chicas. In burdeles I pay 70 cop for 1 hour, 100 with ass, but usually I take girls from Chipichape centre and any cafe's for free.

Today I read reports about Cartagena.

Thanks for useful info.

So as I understand:

The price of best chicas in Cartagena in DV - 300-400 cop for short time?

And I must drink no less than 80 cop?

What they suggest for this price? Classic, BJ without condom? Ass? Kisses?

What the price for example of the bottle of ron or vodka?

What about cafe del Mar? In wiki I read that I can meet several nice chicas there in any time. Its true?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Cerebro;1648154]Mickey27,

Check the Cartagena hotel and apartments area of the site. Also, check the board member Aunsa. He has apartments in Cartagena reasonably price. I already booked a studio with him for a couple of days for December for just us $30.[/QUOTE]Did Aunsa ever answer the question that was asked about the address and name of building for the apartment in Cartagena? What is the name of the building and the address? Pretty simple, straight forward question. Then, the follow-up question: who has stayed there and can give a first hand account?

Has anyone ever provided a clear, concise answer to the above?

[QUOTE=Hilltopper;1649515]Did Aunsa ever answer the question that was asked about the address and name of building for the apartment in Cartagena? What is the name of the building and the address? Pretty simple, straight forward question. Then, the follow-up question: who has stayed there and can give a first hand account?

Has anyone ever provided a clear, concise answer to the above?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Concarne;1622901]i would only advice extreme caution if you ever consider renting from aunsa.

i ended not renting from him but he was asking for deposit to a personal bank account prior to me checking apartment. we arranged for meeting in mde to check out apartment and arrange stay and was never heard from again. luckily i never sent money.

i got pm from another guy who had similar sketchy interactions.

his place (was temporily listed in airnbnb but quickly removed after a few days. same address, map. in a stroke of luck i had just look at it prior to his posting for rental here, when i questioned him about it and requested photos and such he ignored requests.

i could be wrong i supposse. i am only recommending extreme caution.

cc.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=IMissMillenium;1643771]I have been traveling to Bogota for about a month now on business. I had read through forum posts and PM'ed Aunsa to meet up for some beers per one of his posts. We hung out a few times, he showed me around the spots in Sante Fe and some other areas. He seemed to know the areas well, spoke both Spanish and English, and was about the same age as me, and all seemed cool.

After a week or so, he asked me if I was interested in attending a "playboy mansion-style" party at a house outside of Bogota that would include food, drinks and 25 girls, for which he needed a payment + deposit of $400 USD. We had some back and forth discussion, and I agreed to attend (and paid him the $400 in cash. See "receipt" he gave me attached. Does not include the $100 deposit he requested afterwards), and I even cancelled a weekend trip to Peru to attend the "party"..[/QUOTE]The answer to your question is no Hilltopper. As you can see from the copied and pasted posts above his reputation here on the forum is not very good. Also keep in mind that not one established member has posted a positive review that I am aware of. He is also offering apartment rentals in Rio de Janiero on the Brazil forum here on the ISG. There is one more critical review but I cannot seem to locate it.

I want to make it perfectly clear that I have had no first hand experience dealing with him, and I am only posting what others here on the board have previously posted.

I booked for a few days in mid December 2014. The apartment is located in Bocagrande. I have not seen the apartment yet so I can not provide further information. For privacy and safety, I am not posting the name of the building nor the address. I think you need to book the place to get that information. Booking is pretty standard. You have to make a reservation and provide some form of deposit via western union or a Colombian bank. I have done this type of reservation with other apartments reservation in Medellin so I know this is pretty standard.

[QUOTE=Hilltopper;1649515]Did Aunsa ever answer the question that was asked about the address and name of building for the apartment in Cartagena? What is the name of the building and the address? Pretty simple, straight forward question. Then, the follow-up question: who has stayed there and can give a first hand account?

Has anyone ever provided a clear, concise answer to the above?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldParr;1649763]What difference does it make if you share the building or the apartment? This is insane. How the is it a safety or privacy matter? Furthermore it would be beneficial to his business. You my friend could be in for a very rude awaking in Colombia with this crazy mentality.[/QUOTE]Okay then share the dammed address of the apartment you live and put it on this site. I don't know if you are a maniac or a stalker who wants to stalk Cerebro.

[QUOTE=Cerebro;1649732]I booked for a few days in mid December 2014. The apartment is located in Bocagrande. I have not seen the apartment yet so I can not provide further information. For privacy and safety, I am not posting the name of the building nor the address. I think you need to book the place to get that information. Booking is pretty standard. You have to make a reservation and provide some form of deposit via western union or a Colombian bank. I have done this type of reservation with other apartments reservation in Medellin so I know this is pretty standard.[/QUOTE]Huh? Let me get this straight. Advertise and solicit an apartment for rent on this forum, but can't tell prospective renters the name of the building for privacy and safety reasons. What a hoot.

[QUOTE=Hilltopper;1650025]Huh? Let me get this straight. Advertise and solicit an apartment for rent on this forum, but can't tell prospective renters the name of the building for privacy and safety reasons. What a hoot.[/QUOTE]You guys make an issue of anything. I don't give a damn. Someone asked about places to rent in Cartagena and I noted the apartment I booked in Bocagrande for December. If you interested in knowing the dammed address contact the person that rents the apartment.

[QUOTE=Cerebro;1650038]You guys make an issue of anything. I don't give a dammed. Someone asked about places to rent in Cartagena and I noted the apartment I booked in Bocagrande for December. If you interested in knowing the dammed address contact the person that rents the apartment.[/QUOTE]Other people would give a damn if you reviewed the apartment and provided the name of the building and the unit number AFTER you stay there. However, if you end up, say, in a poorly maintained apartment in El Conqustador and they won't let you bring back your dates, you may be wishing you'd posted the address before your trip.

Hilltopper is cautioning you, not criticizing you.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;1650492]Other people would give a damn if you reviewed the apartment and provided the name of the building and the unit number AFTER you stay there. However, if you end up, say, in a poorly maintained apartment in El Conqustador and they won't let you bring back your dates, you may be wishing you'd posted the address before your trip.

Hilltopper is cautioning you, not criticizing you.[/QUOTE]I can not provide review until I stay and see for myself. I will be happy to give a review after my stay. I am not putting the address here. Too many wackos here from just looking at the reactions.

[QUOTE=Cerebro;1644192]This map has a nice outline of some of main areas to get the chicas in Cartagena, Medellin, Bogota, and Cali.
[URL]http://www.revistadonjuan.com/multimedia/mapa-de-putas-colombia[/URL][/QUOTE]I hope neither you or nobody else will plan a stay based on this type of "information"....

[QUOTE=BlackPage;1650847]I hope neither you or nobody else will plan a stay based on this type of "information"....[/QUOTE]Of course, I am not planning my stay with that map. It is just a piece of a very big puzzle. Thought not perfect, I think it has some valuable information and some might find them useful. Perhaps you could provide some useful information instead of bitching about it.

[QUOTE=OldParr;1650645]You should not be talking about Hilltopper like that![/QUOTE]There is people with a good reputation in this Forum, due to a long record of useful and meaningful reports here. All regular visitors know them, whilst everyone can always check the record of previous posts of any new guest.

In general, do not feed the trolls.

[QUOTE=Mickey27;1647990]Hello,

First time I will be in Cartagena in January (1-8).

Not a good time I think, hotels are very expensive. Last time in Cali I have no problems with chicas. In burdeles I pay 70 cop for 1 hour, 100 with ass, but usually I take girls from Chipichape centre and any cafe's for free.

Today I read reports about Cartagena.

Thanks for useful info.

So as I understand:

The price of best chicas in Cartagena in DV - 300-400 cop for short time?

And I must drink no less than 80 cop?[/QUOTE]I am going around that time too. I talked to Juan (an apartment rental guy). Holy crap. Prices are double normal prices. A lot of Colombians are going vacation to Cartagena around that time he said.

LDV chicas are 150-250 COP ST and 200-400 COP LT. You must drink 80 COP if you take a girl out. Or get her number or tell her to meet you outside at the bottom of the steps. You should negotiate what you want before you go. However, from my experience. Not all are GFE. I would give it at 50%.

In a bar. Ron is around 100 COP and vodka is around 170 COP. It is a lot cheaper in the supermarket.

I have been to Cafe Del Mar many times and I can't tell who the working girls are. I believe they hang around the bar. Prices for food and drinks are expensive there. So you can imagine their prices! Your best bet is El Reloj area at night after LDV closes.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;1650847]I hope neither you or nobody else will plan a stay based on this type of "information"....[/QUOTE]I think it's useful, especially some of the maps for Bogota, which aren't available via Cerebro's link, but on another page on the same web site. They're damn hard to read though. (Please note proper spelling Cerebro, damn, not "dammed".) I could have used that when I was stumbling around drunk in the north part of Bogota. I posted the links under Reports of Distinction. Thanks Cerebro!

You are welcome Tiny. Thanks for correcting the spelling. Let me practice with this sentence: I'm glad to contribute despite all the damn bitching that goes on in the Cartagena reports. This is a joke of course for those feeding the trolls.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;1651083]I think it's useful, especially some of the maps for Bogota, which aren't available via Cerebro's link, but on another page on the same web site. They're damn hard to read though. (Please note proper spelling Cerebro, damn, not "dammed".) I could have used that when I was stumbling around drunk in the north part of Bogota. I posted the links under Reports of Distinction. Thanks Cerebro![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tiny12;1651083]I think it's useful, especially some of the maps for Bogota, which aren't available via Cerebro's link, but on another page on the same web site. They're damn hard to read though. (Please note proper spelling Cerebro, damn, not "dammed".) I could have used that when I was stumbling around drunk in the north part of Bogota. I posted the links under Reports of Distinction. Thanks Cerebro![/QUOTE]OMG!

That is old second hand info! Crap mostly! Not a serious web site, not for the ROD. It could be misleading.

Instead, use the maps and the List provided here in the past by "herous" of ISG.

Jesus Christ I guess the trip was amazing. You got fucked coming and going.

[QUOTE=BigB23;1641974]The trip was amazing and the girls were insane. We went to LDV and Pley Club every night. All said, I paid between 250 k-500 k every night for TLN with 8+ including bar fees, all places charge 100 k in drinks or cash. If the girl is a second rounder for the night you don't have to pay a bar fee. The beach was fun but they will try to scam you. The food service sucks, 2 hours for lunch on hard chairs sucks. My only advise is to not wait for the girls, you need to go get them and negotiate and state want you are want upfront. The hotter she is the more she will start at, when she says 800-900 k just laugh, you can have that one for 300-400 k plus a bar fee. These girls love to party hard. Also I had no problem with the people, taxis, girls, police or street sales men, I was able to walk around freely and felt safe all the night.[/QUOTE]

Is that a problem?

Yes it's easy 150,000 short time 200,000 maybe 250,000 tdl. If the girl likes you. It's easy every night. If your worried about spending 80,000 in liquor at LDV yea then your probably gone to have a problem the hole trip. 80,000 to 150,0000 peso all night in any club would be considered an inexpensive night out.

It's that simple.

[QUOTE=Hioctane;1644584]Beach then LDV. Rinse and repeat. Sounds about right. LOL.

250ST sounds about right. 200 if you can negotiate a little. I have been saying this the last couple of years. Where are the guys insisting they can still get ST for 150 k and even 100 k at LDV?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=YouCan;1651424]Is that a problem?
Yes it's easy 150,000 short time 200,000 maybe 250,000 tdl. If the girl likes you. It's easy every night. If your worried about spending 80,000 in liquor at LDV yea then your probably gone to have a problem the hole trip. 80,000 to 150,0000 peso all night in any club would be considered an inexpensive night out.
It's that simple.[/QUOTE]YC, Hioctane has so much experience in CTG as few others writing in this thread.

I cannot exclude you could get 150 k for ST from some girl in LDV and some time. Everyone has his own samples of experience.

But don't claim here in this forum that it is easy every night, simple, etc. You are misleading new comers. Everyone who goes to CTG knows how is the system. Standard rates in LDV are 200 k-250 k, even after negotiations, and not less than 500 k for TDL (if one has the bad idea to negotiate that before, instead of letting the girl to sleep, if she has nice chemistry). There are girls who would even stick to 300 k for ST. This is not debatable. It's empirical evidence. Period.

It is possible to find girls happy with 100 k-150 k for ST, but at Reloy (sometimes the same girls who 1 hour before were in LDV: D), and only in periods when there are not many foreign men hungry for ladies.

500 K all night in all the times I've been there I can honestly say no one has ever asked me for that amount. 500 k no never once. I am going there next week. Maybe something has changed in the last few months. 500 k? I hope the fuck not.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;1651589]YC, Hioctane has so much experience in CTG as few others writing in this thread.

I cannot exclude you could get 150 k for ST from some girl in LDV and some time. Everyone has his own samples of experience.

But don't claim here in this forum that it is easy every night, simple, etc. You are misleading new comers. Everyone who goes to CTG knows how is the system. Standard rates in LDV are 200 k-250 k, even after negotiations, and not less than 500 k for TDL (if one has the bad idea to negotiate that before, instead of letting the girl to sleep, if she has nice chemistry). There are girls who would even stick to 300 k for ST. This is not debatable. It's empirical evidence. Period.

It is possible to find girls happy with 100 k-150 k for ST, but at Reloy (sometimes the same girls who 1 hour before were in LDV: D), and only in periods when there are not many foreign men hungry for ladies.[/QUOTE]

I'm sorry but your wrong from all my prior experiences. Also your the person who spoke up for Aunsa. I tried to steer guys here to rent from reputable people. But you wanted to argue about it. Then I read a few pages back where you backed of your Aunsa cheerleading. It doesn't take an Einstein to stick with reputable people. I'm not going to play into your stuipid talk.

Its easy unless your an idiot. 200st max 300 tdl max. If they won't do it. Guess what they don't want to be with you.

[QUOTE=YouCan;1651687]500 K all night in all the times I've been there I can honestly say no one has ever asked me for that amount. 500 k no never once. I am going there next week. Maybe something has changed in the last few months. 500 k? I hope the fuck not.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=YouCan;1651692]I'm sorry but your wrong from all my prior experiences. Also your the person who spoke up for Aunsa. I tried to steer guys here to rent from reputable people. But you wanted to argue about it. Then I read a few pages back where you backed of your Aunsa cheerleading. It doesn't take an Einstein to stick with reputable people. I'm not going to play into your stuipid talk.
Its easy unless your an idiot. 200st max 300 tdl max. If they won't do it. Guess what they don't want to be with you.[/QUOTE]It looks like you replied to your own post.

Just in case you are referring to me, please note that you are confused. I never heard about "Aunsa". I don't know who is this guy / lady. I never mentioned him / her.

Some quick notes while here in CTG:

Aldo has opened a new disco in the old city that is still undergoing remodeling (kitchen, outdoor area, etc.). While the full remodeling probably won't be completed for a couple of months (or more), it is open and a "grand opening" type event is planned for next week. At 3:30 am Sunday night / Monday morning, around 9 or 10 chicas, range of 6 - 8 with all being doable if in need or drinking, LOL. Can't provide name, address and location details, as we've recently learned that there are too many whackos reading this forum, LOL.

Here's a quick rundown of what I've ran into the past few days.

1) 120 mil S / T chica met at playa hollywood.

2) 300 mil 24-hour period chica; met chica playa hollywood also.

3) 150 mil S / T chica met at Aldo's new late spot disco.

4) 10 or so chicas at LDV Sunday night. Range of 6 - 9; couple of blondes, a negrita, couple of morenas, couple of pochantas look alikes, etc.

5) Nothing mentioned to me about a drink minimum or anything while at LDV in which I drank a bottle of water for the first 30 or so minutes. I subsequently went outside after finishing and then came back in and ordered 1/2 bottle of Aquadiante. Cost was either 70 k or 75 k COP, plus the two bottles of water which I believe were 4 k each.

To the below quick report, I will add that the few days I've been here there hasn't been too many guys, I. E. , more of a buyer's market (most girls eying you while at the beach or the discos, LOL.).

[QUOTE=Hilltopper;1651752]5) Nothing mentioned to me about a drink minimum or anything while at LDV in which I drank a bottle of water for the first 30 or so minutes. I subsequently went outside after finishing and then came back in and ordered 1/2 bottle of Aquadiante. Cost was either 70 k or 75 k COP, plus the two bottles of water which I believe were 4 k each.[/QUOTE]The drink minimum only applies when you take a girl out.

[QUOTE=Hilltopper;1651752]
Aldo has opened a new disco in the old city that is still undergoing remodeling (kitchen, outdoor area, etc.). While the full remodeling probably won't be completed for a couple of months (or more), it is open and a "grand opening" type event is planned for next week. At 3:30 am Sunday night / Monday morning, around 9 or 10 chicas, range of 6 - 8 with all being doable if in need or drinking, LOL. Can't provide name, address and location details, as we've recently learned that there are too many whackos reading this forum, LOL.[/QUOTE]That's the best news I could hear! I can't wait for my next trip there (March, I guess).

I hope he will stop wasting money in side activities (regular know what) and will restore the old glory of Elektra. We all need that. And we all owe him some of our best nights in CTG. Accolades to Aldo!

[QUOTE=Hioctane;1651785]The drink minimum only applies when you take a girl out.[/QUOTE]With all due respect, as I've mentioned in this thread previously, I personally have never encountered a drink minimum whether taking a girl out or not, and neither have any of the guys I know who have been to LDV. I'm not saying that you have not been hit up for a drink minimum; instead I'm saying there is not a drink minimum applied across the board to everyone. There are guys who don't like to spend money at all there, but want to reap the benefits. Those guys get the drink minimum routine. For guys who have established themselves as someone not just there to take, the issue of a drink minimum never comes up, even when they drink only a single bottle of beer or water and take a chica.

It's really not a hard concept to grasp. You've been there to LDV a bunch and exposed to a drink minimum. Myself and other guys have been there a bunch and never exposed to a drink minimum. Are any of us anybody special? I think not. My hunch is that the only thing happening is that it is not unusual for some guys to run a 100 to 200 mil tab by themselves and the people working there know that, and if they don't, Aldo will tell them. People get labeled all the time and they get reputations for being tight when it comes to buying drinks at a bar; only there to enjoy the free entertainment. It's the way the world turns.

Conclusion: If a guy gets hit up for a drink minimum, it's because he is prone or has shown a propensity not to spend money on drinks there, which in turn puts more pressure on the bar in its efforts to pay the bills and turn a profit. It ain't rocket science.

[QUOTE=Hilltopper;1651935]With all due respect, as I've mentioned in this thread previously, I personally have never encountered a drink minimum whether taking a girl out or not, and neither have any of the guys I know who have been to LDV. I'm not saying that you have not been hit up for a drink minimum; instead I'm saying there is not a drink minimum applied across the board to everyone. There are guys who don't like to spend money at all there, but want to reap the benefits. Those guys get the drink minimum routine. For guys who have established themselves as someone not just there to take, the issue of a drink minimum never comes up, even when they drink only a single bottle of beer or water and take a chica.

It's really not a hard concept to grasp. You've been there to LDV a bunch and exposed to a drink minimum. Myself and other guys have been there a bunch and never exposed to a drink minimum. Are any of us anybody special? I think not. My hunch is that the only thing happening is that it is not unusual for some guys to run a 100 to 200 mil tab by themselves and the people working there know that, and if they don't, Aldo will tell them. People get labeled all the time and they get reputations for being tight when it comes to buying drinks at a bar; only there to enjoy the free entertainment. It's the way the world turns.

Conclusion: If a guy gets hit up for a drink minimum, it's because he is prone or has shown a propensity not to spend money on drinks there, which in turn puts more pressure on the bar in its efforts to pay the bills and turn a profit. It ain't rocket science.[/QUOTE]Again, I have experienced it and many newbies have reported it. Maybe you haven't because you are a regular but it's something to be aware of.

Well said!! I always buy a bottle of rum and tip the door guys. So I never had a problem.

[QUOTE=Hilltopper;1651935]With all due respect, as I've mentioned in this thread previously, I personally have never encountered a drink minimum whether taking a girl out or not, and neither have any of the guys I know who have been to LDV. I'm not saying that you have not been hit up for a drink minimum; instead I'm saying there is not a drink minimum applied across the board to everyone. There are guys who don't like to spend money at all there, but want to reap the benefits. Those guys get the drink minimum routine. For guys who have established themselves as someone not just there to take, the issue of a drink minimum never comes up, even when they drink only a single bottle of beer or water and take a chica.

It's really not a hard concept to grasp. You've been there to LDV a bunch and exposed to a drink minimum. Myself and other guys have been there a bunch and never exposed to a drink minimum. Are any of us anybody special? I think not. My hunch is that the only thing happening is that it is not unusual for some guys to run a 100 to 200 mil tab by themselves and the people working there know that, and if they don't, Aldo will tell them. People get labeled all the time and they get reputations for being tight when it comes to buying drinks at a bar; only there to enjoy the free entertainment. It's the way the world turns.

Conclusion: If a guy gets hit up for a drink minimum, it's because he is prone or has shown a propensity not to spend money on drinks there, which in turn puts more pressure on the bar in its efforts to pay the bills and turn a profit. It ain't rocket science.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BlackPage;1651824]That's the best news I could hear! I can't wait for my next trip there (March, I guess).

I hope he will stop wasting money in side activities (regular know what) and will restore the old glory of Elektra. We all need that. And we all owe him some of our best nights in CTG. Accolades to Aldo![/QUOTE]Hey BP,

The name of the new place is L'Oprea. It's a block from the old Electra and is right next to Space. Like I said, they've just opened and there's remodeling of the kitchen and upstairs area to be done, but I already like the place. Looks like Aldo is going to do the new place up right.

It's 7:50 am Here in CTG and you know where I am. The curtains and doors to the balcony are drawn open, the smell of the sea and the sound of splashing waves are in the air. I've got some music playing, a tequila in my hand, a little creepy, and an 18-yr old chica asleep in the the bedroom after a mind-blowing 2-hour multiple nut session of getting into each other. One of those times when two people have a physical and mental chemistry that makes for quite the memorable sexual encounter and moment in time. It's what keeps a fella coming back to Cartagena.

I look forward to what the day foretells. .

[QUOTE=Hilltopper;1652482]
It's 7:50 am Here in CTG and you know where I am. The curtains and doors to the balcony are drawn open, the smell of the sea and the sound of splashing waves are in the air. I've got some music playing, a tequila in my hand, a little creepy, and an 18-yr old chica asleep in the the bedroom after a mind-blowing 2-hour multiple nut session of getting into each other. One of those times when two people have a physical and mental chemistry that makes for quite the memorable sexual encounter and moment in time. It's what keeps a fella coming back to Cartagena.
I look forward to what the day foretells. .[/QUOTE]It's 15:00 here. I am in my office. It's rainy outside and temperature is around 10°C
....
Bleah!

[QUOTE=BlackPage;1652497]It's 15:00 here. I am in my office. It's rainy outside and temperature is around 10C
....
Bleah![/QUOTE]All that is the beauty of Cartagena awaits your return. Viva Cartagena!

I want to go back.

[QUOTE=Hilltopper;1652499]All that is the beauty of Cartagena awaits your return. Viva Cartagena![/QUOTE]

Be down there soon big poppy!

[aQUOTE=BigB23;1653866]I want to go back. [ / QUOTE].

Gents. Headed to Cartagena. How is the selection at LDV.

Thanks.

Playa Hollywood, I only went there few times. I brought a cooler with ice and beer. Fat Tony is relentless, annoying, just abnoxious, fat black colombiano, he will find you immediately as you get on the beach. The way to get the girls cheaper there is to stay in the water. Tony never goes in the water, and stays away from it. Talk to girls while they are in the water away from Tony who will just fuck things up for you, meaning girls will ask for double, like 200 k for hour, if you let Tony be somewhere close. He also sucked most of my aguardiente in matter of hour since I offered him a shot. Take a zip lock bag for you valuables, like cell, so you can dip in the ocean with it. There are tons of super sketchy, shady guys constantly sitting next to, and walking by your cabana, watch your stuff, don't ever leave it unattended. The other scams are all usual if you ever been to a beach, masages, sketchy 'gifts' of fruits, ceviche, sunglasses, etc. Only talk to girls, if they answer back and talk to you then they are game for ST or more, take numbers and stay in the water to be away from Tony. Cabana with a chair cost me 10 k Peso though he asked 20 k first. Everybody on the beach is sketchy as fuck, watch everything like a hawk, ask prices for everything up front. Avoid Tony if you can, by simply ignoring him and staying close to water. Other option is to get a hat and walk with your cooler up and down the beach close to water out of reach of Tony and other shady characters there and just get numbers of girls there ask for rates and txt them later.

[QUOTE=NotNow;1654943]Playa Hollywood, I only went there few times. I brought a cooler with ice and beer. Fat Tony is relentless, annoying, just abnoxious, fat black colombiano, he will find you immediately as you get on the beach. The way to get the girls cheaper there is to stay in the water. Tony never goes in the water, and stays away from it. Talk to girls while they are in the water away from Tony who will just fuck things up for you, meaning girls will ask for double, like 200 k for hour, if you let Tony be somewhere close. He also sucked most of my aguardiente in matter of hour since I offered him a shot. Take a zip lock bag for you valuables, like cell, so you can dip in the ocean with it. There are tons of super sketchy, shady guys constantly sitting next to, and walking by your cabana, watch your stuff, don't ever leave it unattended. The other scams are all usual if you ever been to a beach, masages, sketchy 'gifts' of fruits, ceviche, sunglasses, etc. Only talk to girls, if they answer back and talk to you then they are game for ST or more, take numbers and stay in the water to be away from Tony. Cabana with a chair cost me 10 k Peso though he asked 20 k first. Everybody on the beach is sketchy as fuck, watch everything like a hawk, ask prices for everything up front. Avoid Tony if you can, by simply ignoring him and staying close to water. Other option is to get a hat and walk with your cooler up and down the beach close to water out of reach of Tony and other shady characters there and just get numbers of girls there ask for rates and txt them later.[/QUOTE]The water in Cartagena is dirty as hell, why not just tell Tony to fuck off or better yet tell HIM what you are willing to pay for things, let him make a little money for his efforts and he will be satisfied. You have to let Tony know from the get go that you are the boss and the one with the money in his pockets and he will somewhat come to his senses and adjust accordingly for the most part, be firm but nice and firmer and less nice if necessary.

[QUOTE=NotNow;1654943]Playa Hollywood, I only went there few times. I brought a cooler with ice and beer. Fat Tony is relentless, annoying, just abnoxious, fat black colombiano, he will find you immediately as you get on the beach. The way to get the girls cheaper there is to stay in the water. Tony never goes in the water, and stays away from it. Talk to girls while they are in the water away from Tony who will just fuck things up for you, meaning girls will ask for double, like 200 k for hour, if you let Tony be somewhere close. He also sucked most of my aguardiente in matter of hour since I offered him a shot. Take a zip lock bag for you valuables, like cell, so you can dip in the ocean with it. There are tons of super sketchy, shady guys constantly sitting next to, and walking by your cabana, watch your stuff, don't ever leave it unattended. The other scams are all usual if you ever been to a beach, masages, sketchy 'gifts' of fruits, ceviche, sunglasses, etc. Only talk to girls, if they answer back and talk to you then they are game for ST or more, take numbers and stay in the water to be away from Tony. Cabana with a chair cost me 10 k Peso though he asked 20 k first. Everybody on the beach is sketchy as fuck, watch everything like a hawk, ask prices for everything up front. Avoid Tony if you can, by simply ignoring him and staying close to water. Other option is to get a hat and walk with your cooler up and down the beach close to water out of reach of Tony and other shady characters there and just get numbers of girls there ask for rates and txt them later.[/QUOTE]Tony is annoying, but you just have to know how to work around him. The cooler is good. Aguardiente is dirt cheap. Just give him a shot every half hour so he will stop asking you to buy drinks. Another thing to do is put him to work finding you a very particular girl (he actually does know more than half the girls on the beach and has a lot on speedial). When he is busy he doesn't ask you to buy stuff! If he actually does find you a girl, get her number for later and stick to the 100-120 k ST rate.

First Day here and yea tonys fucked up but work him to your advantage. I t was raining like a mother fucker today but I met a great 19 year old today on beach. Full GFE. What a great start. I told her I would take her to dinner tonight see if s she shows. What a great time and fuck. 4 hrs of bliss 150,000 peso and one Gatorade.

[QUOTE=Hioctane;1655009]Tony is annoying, but you just have to know how to work around him. The cooler is good. Aguardiente is dirt cheap. Just give him a shot every half hour so he will stop asking you to buy drinks. Another thing to do is put aahim to work finding you a very particular girl (he actually does know more than half the girls on the beach and has a lot on speedial). When he is busy he doesn't ask you to buy stuff! If he actually does find you a girl, get her number for later and stick to the 100-120 k ST rate.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JoeySmith;1654891]Gents. Headed to Cartagena. How is the selection at LDV.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Hit LDV last night. Nice selection of ladies. Mujeres outnumbered guys almost 3 to 1 . The evening was quite interesting as a taxi caught on fire in front of the Dann Hotel and burned up before the fire company arrived. Some poor dude just lost his paycheck and more.

Lots of candy to select for everyone tastes. I prefer the MILFs and selected a girl from Manizales and took her back to the Hampton Inn. Did have to check her in. But no chica fee. Today I'll move into my own apartment in Laguito. Don't normally visit during the high season. My place is rented for 3 months over the holiday season here in Colombia.

Happy hunting.

2nd day more beach and way nicer weather. Girl from yesterday was on, beach and I confirmed dinner. She ended up with some bullshit story and came two hours late. So I fucked her short time 150,000 then headed to LDV took a hot girl out te the but pricey. Total GFE!! Taking her to dinner tonight and keeping her all nigh. Met her before with old par. Her name is Karla. At least that's what she said. Speaks good English. . to be continued.

[QUOTE=YouCan;1655241]First Day here and yea tonys fucked up but work him to your advantage. I t was raining like a mother fucker today but I met a great 19 year old today on beach. Full GFE. What a great start. I told her I would take her to dinner tonight see if s she shows. What a great time and fuck. 4 hrs of bliss 150,000 peso and one Gatorade.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=YouCan;1655867]2nd day more beach and way nicer weather. Girl from yesterday was on, beach and I confirmed dinner. She ended up with some bullshit story and came two hours late. So I fucked her short time 150,000 then headed to LDV took a hot girl out te the but pricey. Total GFE!! Taking her to dinner tonight and keeping her all nigh. Met her before with old par. Her name is Karla. At least that's what she said. Speaks good English. . to be continued.[/QUOTE]I remember her, and in fact I think I have a couple of pics of her. Continue to have fun and keep knocking the boots off the girls! To bad you were not there a couple of weeks ago, as it was like magic when I entered the wall city and Cafe del Mar and Tu Candela. I had quite the following like normal, and memorable times were made in both places, as well as back in the condo. By the way I do not use Nelson no more.

[QUOTE=YouCan;1655867]2nd day more beach and way nicer weather. Girl from yesterday was on, beach and I confirmed dinner. She ended up with some bullshit story and came two hours late. So I fucked her short time 150,000 then headed to LDV took a hot girl out te the but pricey. Total GFE!! Taking her to dinner tonight and keeping her all nigh. Met her before with old par. Her name is Karla. At least that's what she said. Speaks good English. . to be continued.[/QUOTE]Hi,

How many girls in LDV?

What the average age of customers? How old are you?

Can I photo them in LDV by iPhone or its better to do photos after?

Probably 50 girls or more. Age of customers range from 20 to 65? But mostly my age sound 40 to 50. I don't know anything about photos or videos I am not into that. Took the girl Karla to dinner lat night. She was definitely a 10 and spoke good English I had fun with her. Total GFE.

Today went to beach at Tony's he leaves me anyone for most part. He had 5 girls sitting working his beach 3 were sitting together and a guy sat with them and next thing you know the drinks in coconuts are flowing extra shots of liquor for drinks. Tony happy. I can't imagine the fucking this guy got. Tony definitely was going to fuck him. I left there before the fights started over bill. Will hit a couple spots tonight. I just woke up.

[QUOTE=Mickey27;1656043]Hi,

How many girls in LDV?

What the average age of customers? How old are you?

Can I photo them in LDV by iPhone or its better to do photos after?[/QUOTE]

One more thing sorry I took Karla to carbon de palo. Very good and had nice band playing soft music.

[QUOTE=YouCan;1656326]Probably 50 girls or more. Age of customers range from 20 to 65? But mostly my age sound 40 to 50. I don't know anything about photos or videos I am not into that. Took the girl Karla to dinner lat night. She was definitely a 10 and spoke good English I had fun with her. Total GFE.

Today went to beach at Tony's he leaves me anyone for most part. He had 5 girls sitting working his beach 3 were sitting together and a guy sat with them and next thing you know the drinks in coconuts are flowing extra shots of liquor for drinks. Tony happy. I can't imagine the fucking this guy got. Tony definitely was going to fuck him. I left there before the fights started over bill. Will hit a couple spots tonight. I just woke up.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=YouCan;1656326]Probably 50 girls or more. Age of customers range from 20 to 65? But mostly my age sound 40 to 50. I don't know anything about photos or videos I am not into that. Took the girl Karla to dinner lat night. She was definitely a 10 and spoke good English I had fun with her. Total GFE.

Today went to beach at Tony's he leaves me anyone for most part. He had 5 girls sitting working his beach 3 were sitting together and a guy sat with them and next thing you know the drinks in coconuts are flowing extra shots of liquor for drinks. Tony happy. I can't imagine the fucking this guy got. Tony definitely was going to fuck him. I left there before the fights started over bill. Will hit a couple spots tonight. I just woke up.[/QUOTE]OK thanks!

What situation in another playas?

Castillo, La Boquilla, El laguito?

How you think in January 1-10 , the LDV girls will raise their tariffs (prices)?

I have never been in Cartagena in January. Last night LDV was banging. Took a girl I new from before 200,000 peso she stayed around three hours. Much fun. I am taking her to dinner tonight. It's my last night. The beach has been packed with a lot of people. More working girls then I ever seen on beach. It's gorgeous again today.

Old par was right. I am staying marinara 1204 apartment. It's nice! Always like dealing with juan and Adolpho. Good people.

As far as Nelson and Alfredo I stoped using them about a year ago because they wanted more and more above normal rate. So I moved on.

[QUOTE=Mickey27;1656402]OK thanks!

What situation in another playas?

Castillo, La Boquilla, El laguito?

How you think in January 1-10 , the LDV girls will raise their tariffs (prices)?[/QUOTE]

Old par was right. I am staying marinara 1204 apartment. It's nice! Always like dealing with juan and Adolpho. Good people.

Glad to hear!! Will be there next week. I was going to book that room damn it. Instead I booked 404. Hope its nice too. Juan is great. I will only go through him for apts in CTG. Can't wait to be there.

I keep fucking up the name😄.

[QUOTE=NCal2014;1656526]Old par was right. I am staying marinara 1204 apartment. It's nice! Always like dealing with juan and Adolpho. Good people.

Glad to hear!! Will be there next week. I was going to book that room damn it. Instead I booked 404. Hope its nice too. Juan is great. I will only go through him for apts in CTG. Can't wait to be there.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NCal2014;1656526]Old par was right. I am staying marinara 1204 apartment. It's nice! Always like dealing with juan and Adolpho. Good people.

Glad to hear!! Will be there next week. I was going to book that room damn it. Instead I booked 404. Hope its nice too. Juan is great. I will only go through him for apts in CTG. Can't wait to be there.[/QUOTE]I am always right, 404 is OK but I much prefer 1204.

[QUOTE=YouCan;1656326]Probably 50 girls or more. Age of customers range from 20 to 65? But mostly my age sound 40 to 50. I don't know anything about photos or videos I am not into that. Took the girl Karla to dinner lat night. She was definitely a 10 and spoke good English I had fun with her. Total GFE.

Today went to beach at Tony's he leaves me anyone for most part. He had 5 girls sitting working his beach 3 were sitting together and a guy sat with them and next thing you know the drinks in coconuts are flowing extra shots of liquor for drinks. Tony happy. I can't imagine the fucking this guy got. Tony definitely was going to fuck him. I left there before the fights started over bill. Will hit a couple spots tonight. I just woke up.[/QUOTE]First trip to CTG last week. Definitely watch out for Tony and them playa Hollywood goons. Tony got me for $320 K on 9 drinks, a meal and a chair & umbrella for 1 afternoon. Still pissed when I think about it. On the bright side, I had a great time besides that 1 incident.

[QUOTE=YouCan;1656531]I keep fucking up the name.[/QUOTE]I recently bought 1204, closing on 1203 this week. I put an american phone and new bedroom tvs in 1204. We will decide soon the renovation details (start in March). The balcony sold the apartments. Anyway, enjoy, more improvements are coming.

[QUOTE=LocoGringo;1656803]I recently bought 1204, closing on 1203 this week. I put an american phone and new bedroom tvs in 1204. We will decide soon the renovation details (start in March). The balcony sold the apartments. Anyway, enjoy, more improvements are coming.[/QUOTE]Is this Martin? The loco gringo?

Was planning on going to Sosua in March for my last trip there. But I am hearing too many negative remarks about it now. So I am planning a different trip off the beaten path. Has anyone have any info on Cartagena, Colombia? Exchange rate, hotels or rentals and short time & TLN going rate. Thanks brothers & Happy Holidays!

[QUOTE=OldParr;1656993]I am playing my trips to Cartagena for 2015 and December 2016 so can anyone tell me where is a good place to stay, where the beaches are that the girls hangout, other locations to find girls? Also is there anyone who can direct me to the girls on the Hollywood beach, the cost of carpas, chairs, beer, and what to pay for short time with the girls? In Cartagena is there a place similar to the old club called "Help" that was in Rio de Janiero, Brazil? Can I find English speaking girls in Cartagena? Do you think the prices will be the same in 2016 as they will be in 2015? Is it difficult to pick up normal girls if I do not speak Spanish, and if I am over weight by a good 80 pounds, and always have a cigar hanging out of my mouth? I also prefer to wear shorts, t-shirts, and tennis shoes when I go out at night to the bars and nightclubs, will this be an acceptable form of clothing? Are Colombian girls enamored with Americans and Canadians?

I also have a question for this CanYou guy, can you send me the phone numbers of these girls you were with along with photos and any pesos you might have left from your trip? I can provide you my email in a private message. I also promise to post a report of my time in Cartagena when I return. This goes for my trip I am planning for even 2016.

Sorry for the many questions, but will appreciate all the help you can provide in answering my questions and concerns. This forum is awesome.

Happy hunting guys.[/QUOTE]This is too funny. Jackson should pin this post on top of all threads. .

P.S. For those that don't know OP, he is being sarcastic. He knows more about CTG than most on this forum.

[QUOTE=RacShack;1656939]Is this Martin? The loco gringo?[/QUOTE]Noooooo, far from Martin. He bought the LocoGringo cafe and website from me. He is not in cartagena anymore, moved to another area of Colombia.

[QUOTE=LocoGringo;1657216]Noooooo, far from Martin. He bought the LocoGringo cafe and website from me. He is not in cartagena anymore, moved to another area of Colombia.[/QUOTE]You know if the apt he sold on first floor across from ldv if the new owner rents it out or not?

Thanks

[QUOTE=OldParr;1656993]I am playing my trips to Cartagena for 2015 and December 2016 so can anyone tell me where is a good place to stay, where the beaches are that the girls hangout, other locations to find girls? Also is there anyone who can direct me to the girls on the Hollywood beach, the cost of carpas, chairs, beer, and what to pay for short time with the girls? In Cartagena is there a place similar to the old club called "Help" that was in Rio de Janiero, Brazil? Can I find English speaking girls in Cartagena? Do you think the prices will be the same in 2016 as they will be in 2015? Is it difficult to pick up normal girls if I do not speak Spanish, and if I am over weight by a good 80 pounds, and always have a cigar hanging out of my mouth? I also prefer to wear shorts, t-shirts, and tennis shoes when I go out at night to the bars and nightclubs, will this be an acceptable form of clothing? Are Colombian girls enamored with Americans and Canadians?

I also have a question for this CanYou guy, can you send me the phone numbers of these girls you were with along with photos and any pesos you might have left from your trip? I can provide you my email in a private message. I also promise to post a report of my time in Cartagena when I return. This goes for my trip I am planning for even 2016.

Sorry for the many questions, but will appreciate all the help you can provide in answering my questions and concerns. This forum is awesome.

Happy hunting guys.[/QUOTE]I left 400,000 with Tony and a list of University chicas that want to do gringoes for free. I am pretty sure tony will have the money for you cause he said, "Trust me, me no fuck you". Good to know that people in cartagena are trustworthy.

[QUOTE=OldParr;1657370]Gracias amigo and you are a honorable man like always! I hope you achieve all the success in the world on expanding your professional portfolio, and I am looking forward to spending quite a bit of time in Marinare 1204 again this coming year and beyond, and I hope you continue to let my friend Mr. Ventura manage the properties you do have available, as he is the best in the business as anyone who has dealt with him knows.

Cheers to ya![/QUOTE]Yes I agree Juan is the best down there.

[QUOTE=Beach1708;1657432]Yes I agree Juan is the best down there.[/QUOTE]Just wanted to vouch for Juan too. Great guy to deal with, highly recommend.

Great apartment, great time, and great cleaning lady. Antonia? Very nice lady. Sounds funny but I always appreciate the help. Took good care of her. I also always respect the apartment as my own.

[QUOTE=LocoGringo;1656803]I recently bought 1204, closing on 1203 this week. I put an american phone and new bedroom tvs in 1204. We will decide soon the renovation details (start in March). The balcony sold the apartments. Anyway, enjoy, more improvements are coming.[/QUOTE]

I am headed to CTG first week in January. I like the late night disco that has plenty of working girls. I have been to Electra in my previous visits. Is it still open? What else is similiar to that? Thanks.

Viper10.

[QUOTE=OldParr;1656993]I am playing my trips to Cartagena for 2015 and December 2016 so can anyone tell me where is a good place to stay, where the beaches are that the girls hangout, other locations to find girls? Also is there anyone who can direct me to the girls on the Hollywood beach, the cost of carpas, chairs, beer, and what to pay for short time with the girls? In Cartagena is there a place similar to the old club called "Help" that was in Rio de Janiero, Brazil? Can I find English speaking girls in Cartagena? Do you think the prices will be the same in 2016 as they will be in 2015? Is it difficult to pick up normal girls if I do not speak Spanish, and if I am over weight by a good 80 pounds, and always have a cigar hanging out of my mouth? I also prefer to wear shorts, t-shirts, and tennis shoes when I go out at night to the bars and nightclubs, will this be an acceptable form of clothing? Are Colombian girls enamored with Americans and Canadians?

I also have a question for this CanYou guy, can you send me the phone numbers of these girls you were with along with photos and any pesos you might have left from your trip? I can provide you my email in a private message. I also promise to post a report of my time in Cartagena when I return. This goes for my trip I am planning for even 2016.

Sorry for the many questions, but will appreciate all the help you can provide in answering my questions and concerns. This forum is awesome.

Happy hunting guys.[/QUOTE]That was great, keep it coming.

If you have any doubts, go ahead and ask any question you want. If I haven't wrote anything lately it's because it's all the same. In Panama what is there to write about over and over? Veneto, Habanos, or Ache. I don't venture over to Miami Club so nothing to write about special. Everyone knows the decline of the termas in Rio, and with help closing, really took me out of the picture in Rio. Cuba I admit forgot to write a report, and Germany FKK was limited to the couple big ones. Anyways, like I said, is Electra still open? I will be staying by the Old Clock Square when I arrive and remember Electra within walking distance. Thanks.

Viper 10.

[QUOTE=OldParr;1657906]Looking at your posting history you ask a lot of questions for information, but never contribute a report of your experiences, so please tell us why we should respond to your question? You might want to contribute a report of your experiences in Cartagena, since you claim you have visited in several times previously, before asking questions. You claim to have been to Brazil, Panama, Cuba, Germany and other areas but contribute basically nothing.[/QUOTE]

Old Parr, based on what you said I looked at my old reports. I do have reports in Panama and FKK Oase so I don't know what you are talking about. Rio I have numerous reports and information reports how to obtain CPF etc. So the only think I didn't report on was Cuba. So I don't know what you are talking about. Thanks.

Viper10.

[QUOTE=Viper10;1657897]I am headed to CTG first week in January. I like the late night disco that has plenty of working girls. I have been to Electra in my previous visits. Is it still open? What else is similiar to that? Thanks.

Viper10[/QUOTE]Elektra has been close for a while. It reopened as Paprika but that closed too. I think a new one just opened up. I haven't checked it out yet, but I think someone mentioned it several pages back.

Be patient. A report is coming up after the end of my trip and when I return to the USA on Dec. 28. I am in the middle of my trip now in Barranquilla. I can't write a comprehensive report on my iPhone and I am not expending my time in a computer. So just be patient.

[QUOTE=OldParr;1657811]Happy to hear that, as I have used her for years, and would never think of using anyone else, as she does that good of a job, and you cannot find a better person. She also needs the money really bad so kudos to you my friend for taking care of her. I am also still waiting for you to send me the pics I requested in my post the other day, as well as any pesos you might have brought home with you, as I will put them to good use.

Still waiting for Cerebro to post his trip report, and tell us about his apartment rental in Cartagena. I read a prior post of his that stated he was going to be in Santa Marta, Barranquilla, as well as Cartagena this past week, or it might have been this week, so he should have a lot to share with us when it comes to accommodations, restaurants, transportation, nightclubs, strip clubs, and casas, pricing for the girls, and other activities he might have done in these three coastal cities.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Viper10;1658996]If you have any doubts, go ahead and ask any question you want. If I haven't wrote anything lately it's because it's all the same. In Panama what is there to write about over and over? Veneto, Habanos, or Ache. I don't venture over to Miami Club so nothing to write about special. Everyone knows the decline of the termas in Rio, and with help closing, really took me out of the picture in Rio. Cuba I admit forgot to write a report, and Germany FKK was limited to the couple big ones. Anyways, like I said, is Electra still open? I will be staying by the Old Clock Square when I arrive and remember Electra within walking distance. Thanks.

Viper 10.[/QUOTE]I understand. Apologies to ya!

[QUOTE=Cerebro;1659017]Be patient. A report is coming up after the end of my trip and when I return to the USA on Dec. 28. I am in the middle of my trip now in Barranquilla. I can't write a comprehensive report on my iPhone and I am not expending my time in a computer. So just be patient.[/QUOTE]Very much looking forward to it, especially your assessment of your apartment rental. Thank you for being so kind in responding! Continue to have fun!

Excellent questions Old Parr! Sorry for the delayed response, but since you're not going to Cartagena until December, 2016 I guess that's not a problem. Here are answers to some of your questions.

[QUOTE=OldParr;1656993] so can anyone tell me where is a good place to stay,[/QUOTE]If you're a high end monger, there's only one answer. The Sofitel Santa Clara! Not only is it one of the nicest hotels in Cartagena, but you'll have absolutely no problem bringing two, three or even four women back to your room. In fact, if your date is particularly attractive, expect the girl at reception to give you a knowing wink and a big thumbs up.

If you want to save on lodging, then one of the small, comfortable hotels or guest houses in Getsemani is your best bet. Be sure and wear an expensive watch and gold jewelry when you're out and about in Getsemani. This will give you opportunities to meet and impress the chicas of the barrio, normal girls in the neighborhood.

[QUOTE=OldParr;1656993]where the beaches are that the girls hangout,[/QUOTE]I don't know the name, but for normal girls, it's the first beach you'll see on your right when you're driving in from the airport, right next to an isolated skyscraper. Follow my advice above about an expensive watch and gold chains. That's the best way to stand out at the beach. And you're not there for swimming, right?

[QUOTE=OldParr;1656993] Also is there anyone who can direct me to the girls on the Hollywood beach, the cost of carpas, chairs, beer, and what to pay for short time with the girls? In Cartagena is there a place similar to the old club called "Help" that was in Rio de Janiero, Brazil? Can I find English speaking girls in Cartagena? Do you think the prices will be the same in 2016 as they will be in 2015? Is it difficult to pick up normal girls if I do not speak Spanish[/QUOTE]Your questions and concerns can be answered with a single word, Tony! He's your personal concierge at Hollywood beach in Cartagena. You won't have to worry about short time rates, speaking Spanish, etc. As already kindly suggested by LocoGringo, just throw 500,000 pesos at him and tell him you want to get fucked. Tony will make sure you get fucked.

[QUOTE=OldParr;1656993]Is it difficult to pick up normal girls... if I am over weight by a good 80 pounds, and always have a cigar hanging out of my mouth? [/QUOTE]Absolutely not. You have to remember that this is a third world country, like the poorer parts of Sub Saharan Africa. Weight on a man is an indication of prosperity, lots of disposable income for eating, and considered very sexy.

[QUOTE=OldParr;1656993] I also prefer to wear shorts, t-shirts, and tennis shoes when I go out at night to the bars and nightclubs, will this be an acceptable form of clothing?[/QUOTE]During the daytime when you're visiting museums and churches, that's fine. At night that's not the best choice. Remember that Colombian women love sex. And they love fat, prosperous men. For the clubs, I would recommend you cut off and hem some T-shirts, so they fall just below your nipples. That way if you've got a bit of a panza (stomach) you can show it off. And in the clubs, G-strings are better than shorts. If you're a little weak in the "packaging" department, if you know what I mean, just add a little padding. This is the perfect attire for a night of partying at Mr. Babilla's and some of the other clubs on Calle 24.

[QUOTE=OldParr;1656993]Are Colombian girls enamored with Americans and Canadians?[/QUOTE]Of course! They are sick of ugly Colombian men who beat them and sleep with lots of women. They will be putty in your hands.

[QUOTE=OldParr;1656993]I also have a question for this CanYou guy, can you send me the phone numbers of these girls you were with along with photos and any pesos you might have left from your trip? I can provide you my email in a private message.[/QUOTE]I actually know them. Naomi is the blonde and speaks English. Just call 6501095 and tell her what you want.

Hija is the brunette. She works for an agency, so the first time you see her, you'll need to talk with them. I'll send you a PM with the phonetic pronunciations so you can communicate with them even though you don't know Spanish, but this will get you started:

1. Call 653 1639.

2. Ask to speak to the jefe de la po licia. This is the guy in charge when you call, and he's more like to speak English than others at the agency.

3. If he doesn't speak English, tell him:

Me llamo (Fill in your complete legal name). (Old Parr, They need your name to do screening, for Hija's safety. They want to make sure you aren't an ax murderer or something.)

Mi direccion es (Fill in the name of your hotel or apartment and unit number).

Quiero tener sexo con tu hija, la jovencita. Yo pago 200,000 pesos por una hora.

You'll end up paying the standard rate, 200,000 pesos for an hour the first time, but if she really likes you, you can set up additional visits for much less, say $10 or $20.

[QUOTE=OldParr;1656993] I also promise to post a report of my time in Cartagena when I return. This goes for my trip I am planning for even 2016.

Sorry for the many questions, but will appreciate all the help you can provide in answering my questions and concerns. This forum is awesome.

Happy hunting guys.[/QUOTE]Fantastic! Have a great trip! And report back!

You spent a lot of time on that post it seems. While sarcasm can be funny, and believe me I get sarcasm. There are always newbies on this forum that are looking for useful information, and may NOT understand the tone of a response or the level of sarcasm especially if they are not spending enough time reading through pages of comments. So rather than spend what appears to be an inordinate amount of time on sarcastic posts. Why not provide some useful information and try not to mislead first time visitors or newbies? If someone is not great with english, and doesn't understand sarcasm or the tone of your message. And they actually act on information, it doesn't exactly help and probably puts them in what could potentially be a very uncomfortable situation.

I don't mean to crash the party here, but it would be nice to see more useful information and less battering of newbies that ask a question and then having regular posters go off with several posts filled with sarcasm and trying to flex their forum muscle of knowledge. We all make the mostly innocent mistake of asking a question that has been repeated. I know I have done it before whether on this forum or another, but you learn from it and the more you visit and read. You start to get the idea of RTFF. This forum is a very valuable source that has helped me and many others as well, and it would be nice to keep it that way rather than turn it into a pissing fest that yields nothing but wasted time, and posts. I hope you understand my message, I visit these forums maybe once or twice a week and I will share experiences and my thoughts once in awhile. But there are a few threads that just go either way off topic, or turns into a pissing match that no one gains anything from. :

Puntz, I just tried to edit my post to address your concerns, but it's too late.

So, to anyone reading my post below who's a complete idiot, it describes places you should not go and things you should not do. The post is not addressed to or meant to satirize any individual. And if you're overweight, as I have been from time to time in the past, you will still have a great time in Cartagena, both with the pros and, if you choose to play the game, with nonpros.

(I got your sarcasm, but I know you agree now that it was not a good idea to write such a long post just to highlight silly information. Some newbie may believe it).

[QUOTE=Tiny12;1661665]
If you want to save on lodging, then one of the small, comfortable hotels or guest houses in Getsemani is your best bet. Be sure and wear an expensive watch and gold jewelry when you're out and about in Getsemani. This will give you opportunities to meet and impress the chicas of the barrio, normal girls in the neighborhood.
[/QUOTE]Tiny, here your sarcasm went offtrack. You seem to base your information on the silly website posted by Cerebro time ago. Once again: forget that web site, written by uninformed people for same. Getsemani WAS a poor dangerous barrio, but 10 years ago. Now, it's the center of hipster nightlife, yet mostly inexpensive. Many nice bars, budget hotels mixed with some boutique hotels, and lots of young people enjoying at night. If someone bought an apartment there 10 years ago, not he's rich. Not a place to meet WGs. I recommend to have a walk around Getsemani during the day to take photos of houses and people. Plenty of cozy corners.

Either you guys don't have a sense of humor or mine is warped. More likely the latter. You also appear to believe people are pretty stupid.

Black Page, I attended a conference at the Convention Center and have frequented the bars on Calle 24, both in Getsemani, and felt very safe. Maybe I should qualify that. Alvaro Uribe and a couple of government ministers were among the speakers at the conference, so I was a little concerned FARC might bomb the place. Anyway, I'd feel comfortable staying around the convention center or Calle 24. Unless things have changed a lot, I would not stay in a hotel or walk around at night in other parts of Getsemani. Admittedly, it's been 4 years since I've been to Cartagena (I used to go every year or two), and maybe they've upped the police presence. I've read about muggings and worse occurring there, and have been told by locals to stay away.

Old Parr, looking forward to 2017, see you there!

[QUOTE=Tiny12;1661927]
Black Page, I attended a conference at the Convention Center and have frequented the bars on Calle 24, both in Getsemani, and felt very safe. Maybe I should qualify that. Alvaro Uribe and a couple of government ministers were among the speakers at the conference, so I was a little concerned FARC might bomb the place. Anyway, I'd feel comfortable staying around the convention center or Calle 24. Unless things have changed a lot, I would not stay in a hotel or walk around at night in other parts of Getsemani. Admittedly, it's been 4 years since I've been to Cartagena (I used to go every year or two), and maybe they've upped the police presence. I've read about muggings and worse occurring there, and have been told by locals to stay away.[/QUOTE][I]Natura non facit saltus[/I] There were no sharp changes, but a smooth evolution.

On my first visit to CTG (8 year ago, I think), it was insane to go out of the gate of the Reloy Tower alone at night. The area between the tower and the convention center was dark and with young kids eager to rob people. The Calle de la Media Luna was infamous. Between Bar California and the park there were old prostitutes, very low-end. Overall, dangerous and sketchy, although not impossible (I watched a football match of the Colombia national team at Bar California a night with locals and I had fun).

Now, it is probably not a good idea to venture alone at night in the alleys of Getsemani (but why? There's nothing), but I would not say "don't go". It's quiet. The Calle de la Media Luna become the epicentre of night life, with lots of bars and music. Crowded by young tourists from USA and Europe. Bar California is not the same anymore. And, needless to say, almost no SWs there.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;1661927]Either you guys don't have a sense of humor. (THIS IS CORRECT)
Black Page, I attended a conference at the Convention Center and have frequented the bars on Calle 24, both in Getsemani, and felt very safe. Maybe I should qualify that. Alvaro Uribe and a couple of government ministers were among the speakers at the conference, so I was a little concerned FARC might bomb the place. Anyway, I'd feel comfortable staying around the convention center or Calle 24. Unless things have changed a lot, I would not stay in a hotel or walk around at night in other parts of Getsemani. Admittedly, it's been 4 years since I've been to Cartagena (I used to go every year or two), and maybe they've upped the police presence. I've read about muggings and worse occurring there, and have been told by locals to stay away.

Old Parr, looking forward to 2017, see you there![/QUOTE]Yes, you will my friend, and I am very much looking forward to catching up with old times with you. Cannot believe it has been 4 years already that you have not been here in Cartagena. Things were quite safe here the past couple of years, but I have noticed recently a big increase in violence, and from speaking to friends in other large cities in Colombia, the same holds true in there cities. Personally, I would like to see some bombs go off, including in Laguito and the Old City as long as no-one gets hurt, and have it make the world news every day, as things then would revert back to my Cartagena days in the beginning of the 90's. I am in the process of buying some property in the Taganga area to build a home on, so in the future my time will be mainly spent in Santa Marta which I feel is a much more enjoyable area than overpriced Cartagena, unless the violence gets to a point of making the world news like I posted above. Santa Marta offers much better beaches, ocean waters, and there is much more to do in general. In addition it is much more cost effective area to live or be in. Here is link to a thread here on the forum that a former poster compiled some quality reports on that included Santa Marta.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3001-UrbanWildlife-in-Colombia[/URL]

[QUOTE=BlackPage;1661968] Now, it is probably not a good idea to venture alone at night in the alleys of Getsemani[/QUOTE]Good advice. The Swiss woman who was raped and stabbed 42 times a year ago after walking alone late at night in Getsemani undoubtedly wishes she'd followed it.

[QUOTE=Cerebro;1662154]

It was anotherblissfull night with her with her affectionate way and tight pussy. I had another round in the morning as soon as I woke up and saw her naked ass next to me. She woke up and just like a true GFE started pleasing me. Another great fuck. This girl is really good and sweet. I gave her 250 k or 106 dollars which is a lot, but hell I was in a good mood and super satisfied and she was my Christmas gift and I guess I was to her. Also, I have been saving a lot of money in accommodations at Hotel Casa Boston 60000 pesos or $25 a night. The girl Camila could not believe her eyes when I gave her 250 k $106 dollars and was kisiing me all over the place. That was a happy girl. I think I spoiled this poor girl for future American mongers.


Cerebro[/QUOTE]Excellent trip report!

Thank you sir!

Though other Cheap Charlie type guys may not agree, I commend you for taking good care of what seems to be a real sweetheart!

Happy New Year amigos.

Cerebro,

Thank you for one of the best reports I have read on the ISG in a very long time! It was not just a good report, but excellent, and an enjoyable read. So happy that you found Camille, and that she treated you well.

As far as the apartment in Cartagena goes, the reason Hilltopper and I was responding to you about the apartment, is because AUNSA is a fraud, and does not deliver, and we did not want to see you be another victim of this rip off artist. It is my belief that he has no apartments in Colombia or anywhere else in world, as he was claiming he had apartments in Brazil on the Rio de Janiero thread. I could not find one favorable report or someone recommending his apartments which included a google search. What I found was several posts where he ripped people off, or tried to rip them off.

Again, thank you, and I hope if you return to the Cartagena / Barranquilla / Santa Marta areas that you send me a message as I would like to show you a positive experience in Cartagena on my pesos, as it is a beautiful city and a fun place to party.